(CNN)– In a late night posting on her Twitter feed, Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin continued to blast climate change believers Friday, calling the talks in Copenhagen, Denmark a representation of man's "arrogance," for believing people have an impact on nature.
From her Twitter page:
Copenhgen=arrogance of man2think we can change nature's ways.MUST b good stewards of God's earth,but arrogant&naive2say man overpwers nature (sic)
Earth saw clmate chnge4 ions;will cont 2 c chnges.R duty2responsbly devlop resorces4humankind/not pollute&destroy;but cant alter naturl chng (sic)
http://twitter.com/sarahpalinusa
"Earth saw clmate chnge4 ions?" ROTFLMAO!!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
You ditto heads just go ahead an run ole' Sarah for president in 2012 and see what happens. Hopefully the voters know the difference between eons and ions. :biggrin: :biggrin:
Someone supposedly intelligent should know how to use a shorthand that doesn't look like a 3rd grader wrote it. That's all I have to say.
Can she be this stupid?
The answer is self-explanatory.
:spooked: :food24: :rotfl:
Quote from: pariann on December 28, 2009, 06:18:42 PM
Someone supposedly intelligent should know how to use a shorthand that doesn't look like a 3rd grader wrote it. That's all I have to say.
What she said.
Quote from: pariann on December 28, 2009, 06:18:42 PM
Someone supposedly intelligent should know how to use a shorthand that doesn't look like a 3rd grader wrote it. That's all I have to say.
But that's just it; she isn't intelligent. The scary thing is that there are a lot of people who think she is.
Quote from: Locutus on December 28, 2009, 06:26:42 PM
But that's just it; she isn't intelligent. The scary thing is that there are a lot of people who think she is.
So whar does that fact say about
them??? :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Quote from: followsthewolf on December 28, 2009, 06:20:06 PM
Can she be this stupid?
The answer is self-explanatory.
It was a rhetorical question. :razz: :biggrin:
I was just cyber-babbling. :smile:
Quote from: Palehorse on December 28, 2009, 06:27:40 PM
So whar does that fact say about them??? :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Uh...they be dumber than she be. :biggrin:
I guess there's no getting around stupid people though. After all, they've been around for ions ... er, uh ... eons. :rotfl:
Quote from: Locutus on December 28, 2009, 06:32:57 PM
Uh...they be dumber than she be. :biggrin:
I guess there's no getting around stupid people though. After all, they've been around for ions ... er, uh ... eons. :rotfl:
Proof that survival of the fittest is an invalid theory? :spooked: :biggrin:
Quote from: Palehorse on December 28, 2009, 06:38:09 PM
Proof that survival of the fittest is an invalid theory? :spooked: :biggrin:
I still have faith that Darwin will eventually rid us of them. ;D
Rapid regeneration is their best survival technique.
Quote from: followsthewolf on December 28, 2009, 06:55:26 PM
Rapid regeneration is their best survival technique.
And unfortunately, it appears they're quite adept at doing just that.
That's because of genetic predisposition. Hardwire programming.
Quote from: Locutus on December 28, 2009, 06:26:42 PM
But that's just it; she isn't intelligent. The scary thing is that there are a lot of people who think she is.
And that would be why I chose the word 'supposedly'. That people believe she is, but she doesn't do anything to feed that image. I've never thought she was very smart. I am not sure how she managed to get elected as a governor?
Maybe the frigid temps or prolonged daylight/night cycle has caused some sort of mental impairment to the people of Alaska.
I hate to paint w/a broad brush but...
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on December 29, 2009, 07:44:58 AM
Maybe the frigid temps or prolonged daylight/night cycle has caused some sort of mental impairment to the people of Alaska.
Or maybe it was those ions (eons?) shooting off the Aurora Borealis.
:biggrin:
Quote from: Palehorse on December 28, 2009, 06:38:09 PM
Proof that survival of the fittest is an invalid theory? :spooked: :biggrin:
Correct; we are such a clever species that we've fooled evolution.
Quote from: Exterminator on December 29, 2009, 08:22:37 AM
Correct; we are such a clever species that we've fooled evolution.
In the long run, evolution may prove us to be the fools.
I notice that the Palin supporters of the forum are shying away from this thread. :razz: ;D
I'm not even going there...... :no:
Not that I am a SP fan, but I find it SO amusing to watch the left squirm, as her popularity rating is skyrocketing....like a rock star.... :razz:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 29, 2009, 04:09:26 PM
I'm not even going there...... :no:
Not that I am a SP fan, but I find it SO amusing to watch the left squirm, as her popularity rating is skyrocketing....like a rock star.... :razz:
Squirm? Really, Hank! We love it! Nothing like a good laugh when the rightards make fools of themselves!
Quote from: Olias on December 29, 2009, 04:13:43 PM
Squirm? Really, Hank! We love it! Nothing like a good laugh when the rightards make fools of themselves!
That's fine....I'm just going to sit back and watch how this developes....again, I'm not a big fan....but she is NOT too stupid, because she IS shaking things up....that is all I'm sayin.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 29, 2009, 04:19:43 PM
...but she is NOT too stupid, because she IS shaking things up....that is all I'm sayin.
So did Forrest Gump.
She is in line to be the head "Gump-ette"!
This thread kind of reminds me of the song "Listen To The Mocking Bird".
I wish I had received a SP bobblehead doll for Xmas. That way I could pick it off with my new 9mm carbine, loaded with hollow points. It'd be just like shooting the real thing! :biggrin:
(http://pubsecrets.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/3171.jpg)
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I do find it funny how the left loves to jump on Palin...but seem perfectly okay with the REAL bitch...Pelosi....
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 29, 2009, 05:03:30 PM
I do find it funny how the left loves to jump on Palin...but seem perfectly okay with the REAL bitch...Pelosi....
Pelosi may well be a bitch. But she isn't as stupid as Palin.
Good point, Olias
You guy's are just too funny. Tell ya what though, I'd much rather be stranded with "stupid" Palin if something happened that we had to fend for ourselves than "smart" Pelosi and personality has nothing to do with it.
Birds of a feather and all that
Quote from: me on December 29, 2009, 05:22:48 PM
You guy's are just too funny. Tell ya what though, I'd much rather be stranded with "stupid" Palin if something happened that we had to fend for ourselves than "smart" Pelosi and personality has nothing to do with it.
Yeah, we saw what happens when stupid gets into the WH during the last administration. . . :rolleyes:
Quote from: Palehorse on December 29, 2009, 05:42:53 PM
Yeah, we saw what happens when stupid gets into the WH during the last administration. . . :rolleyes:
I think you're confusing last administration with a few years back when the peanut farmer was in.
Quote from: me on December 29, 2009, 05:58:15 PM
I think you're confusing last administration with a few years back when the peanut farmer was in.
That was a few decades ago! :spooked:
Quote from: Palehorse on December 29, 2009, 06:00:48 PM
That was a few decades ago! :spooked:
Scary just to think about it huh?
:spooked:
Quote from: Olias on December 29, 2009, 05:07:47 PM
Pelosi may well be a bitch. But she isn't as stupid as Palin.
Pelosi is not by ANY means a smart woman....PLEASE don't tell me you think she is...because IF she was, she would NOT be responsible for the most corrupt congress we have EVER seen.......she is a liar and an ignorant piece of crap....Obama would do much better with that skank OUT of the way....she is taking him down QUICKLY.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 29, 2009, 06:48:36 PM
Pelosi is not by ANY means a smart woman....PLEASE don't tell me you think she is...because IF she was, she would NOT be responsible for the most corrupt congress we have EVER seen.......she is a liar and an ignorant piece of crap....Obama would do much better with that skank OUT of the way....she is taking him down QUICKLY.
Oooooo!!!!! Sounds like you might be
afraid of her!
:biggrin:
But Palin, after all, has a bachelor's degree in Journalism (after bouncing around to 4 or 5 different schools) And we all know how handy a sports reporter might come in as leader of the country. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Olias on December 30, 2009, 09:17:13 AM
Oooooo!!!!! Sounds like you might be afraid of her!
:biggrin:
I am VERY afraid of this (Pelosi) woman....she is a LYING, corrupt piece of poop who is in a VERY powerful position.....
Popularity skyrocketing? LMFAO! What world do you live in?
Quote from: Exterminator on December 30, 2009, 09:36:54 AM
Popularity skyrocketing? LMFAO! What world do you live in?
http://www.personalliberty.com/news/poll-finds-palin-popularity-growing-19504750/ (http://www.personalliberty.com/news/poll-finds-palin-popularity-growing-19504750/)
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/12/07/cnn-poll-palins-popularity-on-the-rise/ (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/12/07/cnn-poll-palins-popularity-on-the-rise/)
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/12/sarah-palin-hillary-clinton-gallup.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/12/sarah-palin-hillary-clinton-gallup.html)
http://spectator.org/archives/2009/11/17/palins-popularity-vs-media-man (http://spectator.org/archives/2009/11/17/palins-popularity-vs-media-man)
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/12/07/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5927505.shtml (http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/12/07/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5927505.shtml)
http://newsmax.com/InsideCover/sarah-palin-obama-poll/2009/12/08/id/337969 (http://newsmax.com/InsideCover/sarah-palin-obama-poll/2009/12/08/id/337969)
Oh, you meant it's on the rise with the pro-wrestling crowd; you should have said that. No one with an IQ over 100 gives a fat rat's ass about the douche-bag.
Quote from: Exterminator on December 30, 2009, 09:55:59 AM
Oh, you meant it's on the rise with the pro-wrestling crowd; you should have said that. No one with an IQ over 100 gives a fat rat's ass about the douche-bag.
I am only going to laugh with you on this one... ;D ....it's the end of the year and all.... :yes: ...and my new approach is NOT to argue, but let the facts simply speak for me this year..... :wink: :razz:
( I really do think the phrase...."fat rat's ass" is funny... ;D ...I'm going to incorporate that into my vocabulary in 2010... :razz: )
It's a good one...you'll find yourself using it a lot! :biggrin:
Quote from: me on December 29, 2009, 05:22:48 PM
You guy's are just too funny. Tell ya what though, I'd much rather be stranded with "stupid" Palin if something happened that we had to fend for ourselves than "smart" Pelosi and personality has nothing to do with it.
WTH does
that have to do with politics?
Ya' better quit smokin' that shite. :biggrin:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 29, 2009, 06:48:36 PM
Pelosi is not by ANY means a smart woman....PLEASE don't tell me you think she is...because IF she was, she would NOT be responsible for the most corrupt congress we have EVER seen.......she is a liar and an ignorant piece of crap....Obama would do much better with that skank OUT of the way....she is taking him down QUICKLY.
Ahem! Are you implying Pelosi voted each and every one of those so-called 'corrupt' congresspersons into office? (as I lays me trap) :biggrin:
And of course you can also prove she's a liar and ignorant. (layin' in wait) :biggrin:
Quote from: Y on December 30, 2009, 01:40:38 PM
WTH does that have to do with politics?
Ya' better quit smokin' that shite. :biggrin:
Nothing just like this thread making fun of Palin for mistyping. I didn't see any of you making fun of Obama for saying he had made campaign stops in 56 states.
Quote from: me on December 30, 2009, 01:52:05 PM
Nothing just like this thread making fun of Palin for mistyping. I didn't see any of you making fun of Obama for saying he had made campaign stops in 56 states.
i fink u mzzed da point...az uzul. :biggrin:
Quote from: Y on December 30, 2009, 01:57:44 PM
i fink u mzzed da point...az uzul. :biggrin:
Uh no, I didn't. I think you missed my point.
Quote from: Y on December 30, 2009, 01:46:46 PM
Ahem! Are you implying Pelosi voted each and every one of those so-called 'corrupt' congresspersons into office? (as I lays me trap) :biggrin:
And of course you can also prove she's a liar and ignorant. (layin' in wait) :biggrin:
Simply stating an obvious opinion....she IS the leadership and has done nothing but keep congress at approval ratings near 20%.......
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 30, 2009, 02:00:24 PM
Simply stating an obvious opinion....she IS the leadership and has done nothing but keep congress at approval ratings near 20%.......
Are you implying, in the same manner as when you implied she somehow voted in a 'corrupt' congress, that she somehow controls congressional approval ratings? (lays me 'nuther trap) :biggrin:
Quote from: Y on December 30, 2009, 02:05:15 PM
Are you implying, in the same manner as when you implied she somehow voted in a 'corrupt' congress, that she somehow controls congressional approval ratings? (lays me 'nuther trap) :biggrin:
I am implying that SHE is the leadership....and a corrupt congress STOPS with her.....and she DOES have much to do with the publics approval of how congress conducts itself......
(YEP, that is pretty much what I am saying.... :wink: :razz: )
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 30, 2009, 02:13:28 PM
I am implying that SHE is the leadership....and a corrupt congress STOPS with her.....and she DOES have much to do with the publics approval of how congress conducts itself......
(YEP, that is pretty much what I am saying.... :wink: :razz: )
1. I think you make it obvious you don't understand much about the organization of congress, much less congress itself:
U. S. Congress (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Congress)
Senate Officers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate#Officers)
House of Representatives - Officers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives#Officers)
2. Isn't your line of thought also then implying this guy:
Fred Phelps (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps)
...should "have much to do with the public's approval of how..." x-tianity "...conducts itself"?
<sprooooooooong!> caught me one in my traps :biggrin:
Quote from: Y on December 30, 2009, 02:56:07 PM
1. I think you make it obvious you don't understand much about the organization of congress, much less congress itself:
U. S. Congress (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Congress)
Senate Officers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate#Officers)
House of Representatives - Officers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives#Officers)
2. Isn't your line of thought also then implying this guy:
Fred Phelps (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps)
...should "have much to do with the public's approval of how..." x-tianity "...conducts itself"?
<sprooooooooong!> caught me one in my traps :biggrin:
I know exactly how it works Y, and leadership is exactly what it is supposed to mean....
and comparing Phelps to Christianity is like comparing Mary Poppins to the Hells Angels....
Quote from: Y on December 30, 2009, 02:56:07 PM
1. I think you make it obvious you don't understand much about the organization of congress, much less congress itself:
U. S. Congress (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Congress)
Senate Officers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate#Officers)
House of Representatives - Officers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives#Officers)
2. Isn't your line of thought also then implying this guy:
Fred Phelps (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps)
...should "have much to do with the public's approval of how..." x-tianity "...conducts itself"?
<sprooooooooong!> caught me one in my traps :biggrin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGAUTADn47U
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 30, 2009, 03:09:08 PM
I know exactly how it works Y, and leadership is exactly what it is supposed to mean....
and comparing Phelps to Christianity is like comparing Mary Poppins to the Hells Angels....
1. Obviously not, and not what you imply it means.
2. Bzzzzt! Wrong again. Mary Poppins (even being a fictional character) never claimed to be, or was ever associated in any manner with, the Hell's Angels.
<he struggles but he can't get loose> will he bite his leg off? :biggrin:
Quote from: me on December 30, 2009, 03:14:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGAUTADn47U
Yup! Y'all's logic is quite twisted. :biggrin:
Quote from: Y on December 30, 2009, 03:14:36 PM
1. Obviously not, and not what you imply it means.
2. Bzzzzt! Wrong again. Mary Poppins (even being a fictional character) never claimed to be, or was ever associated in any manner with, the Hell's Angels.
<he struggles but he can't get loose> will he bite his leg off? :biggrin:
Naw...just had lunch, and I have WAY to harry legs to munch on... :no: :biggrin:
and Phelps by his actions of hatred, clearly puts him in any category other than Christian....just because he says he is, does not mean he is....by any way shape or form... :wink:
and here is an example of what I am talking about leadership..........allowing such WASTED spending to go on during econimic hardship.....this from last weeks Defense Bill...
In all, Congress added in 1,720 pet projects, including:
∙
$5 million for a visitors center in San Francisco
∙
$23 million for indigent health care in Hawaii
∙
$18 million for the Edward Kennedy Policy Institute in Massachusetts
∙
$1.6 million to computerize hospital records in Oakland
∙
$47 million for anti-drug training centers around the country
∙
$20 million for the World War II Museum in Louisiana
∙
$3.9 million grant to develop an energy-efficient solar film for buildings
∙
$800,000 for minority prostate cancer research
∙
$3.6 million for marijuana eradication in Kentucky
∙
$2.4 million for handicap access and a sprinkler system at a community club in New York
THIS is an example of POOR leadership, be it Nancy or Harry's or BHO's.........it is wrong.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 30, 2009, 03:25:14 PM
Naw...just had lunch, and I have WAY to harry legs to munch on... :no: :biggrin:
and Phelps by his actions of hatred, clearly puts him in any category other than Christian....just because he says he is, does not mean he is....by any way shape or form... :wink:
and here is an example of what I am talking about leadership..........allowing such WASTED spending to go on during econimic hardship.....this from last weeks Defense Bill...
In all, Congress added in 1,720 pet projects, including:
∙$5 million for a visitors center in San Francisco
∙$23 million for indigent health care in Hawaii
∙$18 million for the Edward Kennedy Policy Institute in Massachusetts
∙$1.6 million to computerize hospital records in Oakland
∙$47 million for anti-drug training centers around the country
∙$20 million for the World War II Museum in Louisiana
∙$3.9 million grant to develop an energy-efficient solar film for buildings
∙$800,000 for minority prostate cancer research
∙$3.6 million for marijuana eradication in Kentucky
∙$2.4 million for handicap access and a sprinkler system at a community club in New York
THIS is an example of POOR leadership, be it Nancy or Harry's or BHO's.........it is wrong.
You better leave Harry's legs alone! He might not like ya' gnawin' on them... :biggrin:
1. Be careful painting with that brush! You see someone might paint you with it, if actions of hatred start being defined (think death penalty, war, abortion, etc.). :wink:
Anyway, Phelps states he IS a x-tian...and that you might not be under his definition. Why shouldn't we take him at his word?
<click! another trap is set> :biggrin:
2. How do you tie Nancy, Harry, or Barrak into those examples?
<a'layin' traps all around> :biggrin:
Quote from: Y on December 30, 2009, 02:56:07 PM
<sprooooooooong!> caught me one in my traps :biggrin:
LMAO! PWNED! :biggrin:
Quote from: Exterminator on December 30, 2009, 03:57:44 PM
LMAO! PWNED! :biggrin:
Ah ain't tha' Great Satan fer nuttin' ya' know. :icon_twisted:
Things are peachy keen, congress' ratings are at an all time high, Pelosi and Reed are the greatest ever and have a super high approval rating along with congress, we're soon all gonna be covered with some fantastic health care "free", and all is right with the world....... Dream on oh mighty one.... :rotfl: :rotfl:
u mzzed uhgn. eye nvr sd no setch tings. :biggrin:
In the hooch again ain't cha? :biggrin2:
Quote from: Y on December 30, 2009, 05:29:53 PM
u mzzed uhgn. eye nvr sd no setch tings. :biggrin:
Nope, you missed again........ :biggrin:
Quote from: me on December 30, 2009, 01:52:05 PM
Nothing just like this thread making fun of Palin for mistyping. I didn't see any of you making fun of Obama for saying he had made campaign stops in 56 states.
Actually, that's not what it was about. That's just icing on the cake. I'm also not sure it was a mistype. :wink:
This is why she's "really that fuckin' stupid." You must have missed the bold in my very first post.
Quote from: Locutus on December 28, 2009, 06:05:24 PM
(CNN)– In a late night posting on her Twitter feed, Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin continued to blast climate change believers Friday, calling the talks in Copenhagen, Denmark a representation of man's "arrogance," for believing people have an impact on nature.
If ole' Sarah doesn't believe people have an impact on nature, I wonder what she thinks every time she rides by her local landfill there in Wasilla.
Quote from: Locutus on December 30, 2009, 06:26:49 PM
Actually, that's not what it was about. That's just icing on the cake. I'm also not sure it was a mistype. :wink:
This is why she's "really that fuckin' stupid." You must have missed the bold in my very first post.
If ole' Sarah doesn't believe people have an impact on nature, I wonder what she thinks every time she rides by her local landfill there in Wasilla.
I probably ignored it because I know what she meant and you are making mountains out of molehills. Yes, we can clean up the environment by conserving and not polluting but we can't control nature the way Gore and all those idiots are pushing for. Nature will do what it will do just like in the ice age and there is nothing that can stop it.
Quote from: me on December 30, 2009, 06:42:23 PM
I probably ignored it because I know what she meant and you are making mountains out of molehills. Yes, we can clean up the environment by conserving and not polluting but we can't control nature the way Gore and all those idiots are pushing for. Nature will do what it will do just like in the ice age and there is nothing that can stop it.
they know exactly what she meant ME, they just WANT so badly for her to go away...they spin EVERYTHING she says...she has been quite clear on her position on GW.....
Reading this kind of exchange is like watching the "Black Knight" sequence in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
King Arthur: after Arthur's cut off both of the Black Knight's arms Look, you stupid Bastard. You've got no arms left.
Black Knight: Yes I have.
King Arthur: *Look*!
Black Knight: It's just a flesh wound.
Where's the fun in using irrefutable logic and rapier wit to destroy an argument when your Black Knight doesn't even realize (s)he's been de-pantsed!
I still have hope fer ole' Hank. :biggrin:
Quote from: LOsborne on December 30, 2009, 06:55:23 PM
Reading this kind of exchange is like watching the "Black Knight" sequence in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
King Arthur: after Arthur's cut off both of the Black Knight's arms Look, you stupid Bastard. You've got no arms left.
Black Knight: Yes I have.
King Arthur: *Look*!
Black Knight: It's just a flesh wound.
Where's the fun in using irrefutable logic and rapier wit to destroy an argument when your Black Knight doesn't even realize (s)he's been de-pantsed!
What she said.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 30, 2009, 06:46:02 PM
they know exactly what she meant ME, they just WANT so badly for her to go away...they spin EVERYTHING she says...she has been quite clear on her position on GW.....
Oh, I don't want her to go away HH. :no: I want all of you supporters to make sure she gets the Republican nomination in the next presidential election. Can we say, "Four more years!" for Obama? :rotfl:
Quote from: Locutus on December 31, 2009, 12:07:36 AM
Oh, I don't want her to go away HH. :no: I want all of you supporters to make sure she gets the Republican nomination in the next presidential election. Can we say, "Four more years!" for Obama? :rotfl:
:biggrin:
Quote from: Locutus on December 31, 2009, 12:07:36 AM
Oh, I don't want her to go away HH. :no: I want all of you supporters to make sure she gets the Republican nomination in the next presidential election. Can we say, "Four more years!" for Obama? :rotfl:
:rolleyes:
Quote from: me on December 31, 2009, 01:32:24 AM
:rolleyes:
Care to wager? Do you really think Palin would win on a presidential ticket?
I don't think the Repugs would actually put Palin on the ticket because they appear to be smarter than some of the ditto heads runnin' 'round these parts. ;D
Ya just don't get it do ya? :rolleyes:
Translation: You've got nothing :biggrin:
Quote from: Locutus on December 31, 2009, 12:07:36 AM
Oh, I don't want her to go away HH. :no: I want all of you supporters to make sure she gets the Republican nomination in the next presidential election. Can we say, "Four more years!" for Obama? :rotfl:
I'm not sure WHO the bright one here is.......FOUR MORE YEARS OF ............ THIS?..you got to be kidding... :razz:
and I never said I am supporting her.......I, at this time do not consider myself a Republican...but a conservative....and I will see WHO steps up to the plate.
Quote from: me on December 31, 2009, 02:47:02 AM
Ya just don't get it do ya? :rolleyes:
they don't have a clue me...they live in a fairytale world, where the savior is here to fix EVERYTHING....and all they can do is slam someone who has NO effect on what is going on......
BUT, I'm not going to argue with'em.......TIME will tell the truth....
Translation: you don't have anything either :biggrin:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on December 31, 2009, 09:40:13 AM
Translation: you don't have anything either :biggrin:
What is there to have?........there is NOTHING to the original story other than "spin, twist, spin".... :wink: :razz:
Just 'cause you like to use words like "spin" and "twist" when you lack any truely logical defense doesn't make it so :wink:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on December 31, 2009, 09:45:39 AM
Just 'cause you like to use words like "spin" and "twist" when you lack any truely logical defense doesn't make it so :wink:
well, I don't see any brainiac terminology being used by you other than -Translation: you don't have anything either-
I really don't care one way or the other what Palin does at this point in time....I just find it funny how excited everyone gets when she farts in the wind....
1. I'm pointing out the obvious that you and your shadow...have nothing. It doesn't take a brainiac to see that nor point it out.
2. When I called "me" a brainiac last week or so...you made a big deal about name calling and said that it was a sign that the liberals are frustrated...frustrated much? or is it double-standard?
3. I don't think anyone could care careless about her gastrointestinal health. I find it humorous when people defend her lack of intellect. :biggrin:
On a serious-side I'm happy that she's not in a position to possibly be a leader of our country.
OKAY,
1. Again, I never claimed to have anything other than, people attacking her for just about anything...THAT is my point.
2. I was NOT name calling, I just said I did not see any "brainiac terminology" being used by you...I did NOT call you a name... :wink:
3. I disagree, I think there is liberal media, just WAITING anxiously to catch Sarah cutting one, so they can broadcast it on the nightly news....
What makes you think she is NOT in a position to run our Country?...a first year Senator and community organizer became President....just because he was a smooth talker...with no other qualifications..... :wink:
1. No, it's not the liberal media...it seems more like the hope of one bird with a sick fetish.
2. She's an idiot. I still have faith in the collective intellect of our country to recognise that she's a moron...even if it did elect Dubby twice.
3. Okay...double-standard it is then :wink:
okay,
1. Translation: you don't have anything-
2. Typical Liberal Snob...that is what THAT equates too....
3. Translation: you don't have anything-
this one was pretty easy... :razz:
Copy-cat :wink:
Translation: You like for others to do the thinking for you. :wink:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on December 31, 2009, 10:27:09 AM
Copy-cat :wink:
Translation: You like for others to do the thinking for you. :wink:
THAT is a typical liberal talking point, when they cannot defend an issue that the right is BLASTING them on... :wink: :razz:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on December 31, 2009, 10:27:09 AM
Translation: You like for others to do the thinking for you. :wink:
He really doesn't have a choice, now does he? :icon_twisted:
Quote from: Exterminator on December 31, 2009, 10:53:50 AM
He really doesn't have a choice, now does he? :icon_twisted:
snap!!
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 31, 2009, 08:36:44 AM
they don't have a clue me...
LMFAO! You two are clearly delusional about your "profound" understanding of the world. :rolleyes:
Like King Arthur's Black Knight as the battle continues, Henry literally doesn't have a leg to stand on. snort
the only thing that is delusional, is that there are people out there ready to sign this HC bill...that is going to turn a huge sector of private business over to the government.....and they are okay with that....?
but yet the world is falling apart because a woman Gov from Alaska is twitting...
tweeting
Quote from: LOsborne on December 31, 2009, 11:34:28 AM
Like King Arthur's Black Knight as the battle continues, Henry literally doesn't have a leg to stand on. snort
just call me Sir Henry of Scandia
...(actually, don't call me anything, because without legs, I'm not going to come anyway...)
ohhhh....you said twat :eek:
Quote from: pariann on December 31, 2009, 11:41:30 AM
ohhhh....you said twat :eek:
that is only a bad word if your mind is in the gutter.....
Quote from: pariann on December 31, 2009, 11:38:40 AM
tweeting
Naw, Hank had it right; twits twitting. :icon_twisted:
Right! And now for something completely different!
Quote from: Palehorse on December 31, 2009, 12:02:42 PM
Naw, Hank had it right; twits twitting. :icon_twisted:
Right! And now for something completely different!
then is it....twats twatting?..... :eek:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 31, 2009, 12:04:05 PM
then is it....twats twatting?..... :eek:
Trivial twits and twats twittering to twits and twats twatting to town!
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 31, 2009, 11:35:36 AM
the only thing that is delusional, is that there are people out there ready to sign this HC bill...that is going to turn a huge sector of private business over to the government...
No it isn't. They stripped anything meaningful out of this bill and essentially rewarded the insurance industry for its loathsome conduct.
Quote from: Exterminator on December 31, 2009, 12:16:53 PM
No it isn't. They stripped anything meaningful out of this bill and essentially rewarded the insurance industry for its loathsome conduct.
so where is YOUR outrage?.....as God as my witness, I quit trying to keep up on what is in it and what is not...I don't even think our congress knows exactly WHAT all is in it...even some democrats want it to be stopped and totally redone.....
Quote from: Palehorse on December 31, 2009, 12:05:36 PM
Trivial twits and twats twittering to twits and twats twatting to town!
WOW, say the fast three times
...(and have a klenex with ya..)
I'm waiting to hear the fall out when everyone starts getting their checks in the next couple of weeks and see's the no new taxes for the middle class on their checks. :grinch: Sorry HH didn't mean to spoil your day 'cause you remember but they obviously don't.
"The sky is falling! The sky is falling!"
They don't know any better. Never did.
and who is THEY?
if the shoe fits
that is what i thought.... :rolleyes:
Your interpretation.
Can't help that.
I don't place you in that group of rabid right-wingers, but if you are that sensitive........
Hey, what happened to a "sense of humor"?
I have had NOTHING but a great time today....and I am NOT sensitive at all, on here anymore....I pretty much expect to get disrespected....
but, I am smiling the whole time today....it has been fun as always or I wouldn't be here.... ;D
Quote from: Exterminator on December 31, 2009, 12:16:53 PM
No it isn't. They stripped anything meaningful out of this bill and essentially rewarded the insurance industry for its loathsome conduct.
Pretty much my take on it too. :yes:
Quote from: Locutus on December 31, 2009, 03:13:45 PM
Pretty much my take on it too. :yes:
and HOW exactly did you come to this conclusion?
Quote from: Exterminator on December 30, 2009, 09:55:59 AM
Oh, you meant it's on the rise with the pro-wrestling crowd; you should have said that. No one with an IQ over 100 gives a fat rat's ass about the douche-bag.
now if we could just keep them from voting...
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 31, 2009, 03:10:15 PM
I have had NOTHING but a great time today....and I am NOT sensitive at all..
Not credible when you type words in all caps.
Still ... happy 2010, Hank. Meeting you is one of the few things to fall into the "good" column, this past year.
xo,
Lolly
I have a question. Ya'll are on this Sarah Palin is a dumbass kick and yet you have her grades from college and access to all of her other info including any scholarships and so forth. I challenge you to come up with the same info on Obama. His grades, qualifications to attend the college he went to, major and minor subjects, scholarships and anything else record wise you can from his school years except the ones he attended. I'm sure if he is so smart he must have been at the top of his class and would be proud to make the info public.
When a woman says "I can see Russia from my front porch" I don't need her college transcripts to tell me she is a mouth-breather.
Quote from: LOsborne on December 31, 2009, 05:38:06 PM
When a woman says "I can see Russia from my front porch" I don't need her college transcripts to tell me she is a mouth-breather.
But Obama said he had made campaign stops in 56 states......How smart is that?
This is not a comparison study. Saying she is stupid does not automatically make him smart. Try to see shades of gray, instead of just black and white, me.
Quote from: LOsborne on December 31, 2009, 05:42:29 PM
This is not a comparison study. Saying she is stupid does not automatically make him smart. Try to see shades of gray, instead of just black and white, me.
I am merely pointing out that everyone makes mistakes so why peg Sarah as stupid for saying something which was probably figuratively speaking, like Sandy in a different thread saying she would look toward PH's house so she would see the fireworks tonight, or a typo which we all make? Like I said, ya'll just don't get it.
Problem is, with Palin's history of gaffes, one believes that she wasn't using figurative language.
With Sandy's history of insight and wit, one has no doubt she was simply joking.
That's what you don't get.
Quote from: followsthewolf on December 31, 2009, 05:55:40 PM
Problem is, with Palin's history of gaffes, one believes that she wasn't using figurative language.
With Sandy's history of insight and wit, one has no doubt she was simply joking.
That's what you don't get.
What about Obama's gaffs when he isn't using his teleprompter? Ya'll are just assuming about Sarah Palin based on what the media reports and what they say about her. You are using selective hearing. I'm not comparing or making judgments here I'm just simply pointing out what you are doing with this Palin thing. Why is it such a big deal what she does she is a threat to no one in her current position. Why are the dems so afraid of her they keep her in the spotlight by bringing up things she does? Who cares?
She's a joke that might get elected, given the attitude/intelligence of too many people lately.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9hZpJp7U3Y
Obama's MANY Gaffes #1
;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: mr. willy on December 31, 2009, 08:03:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9hZpJp7U3Y
Obama's MANY Gaffes #1
;D ;D ;D ;D
:HNY: :party: :beer: :food4: :rotfl: :thumbsup:
Quote from: followsthewolf on December 31, 2009, 07:41:09 PM
She's a joke that might get elected, given the attitude/intelligence of too many people lately.
I got two words .... Joe Biden!!....he is a heartbeat away from the POTUS...and he is a REAL moron....
Quote from: LOsborne on December 31, 2009, 04:11:47 PM
Not credible when you type words in all caps.
Still ... happy 2010, Hank. Meeting you is one of the few things to fall into the "good" column, this past year.
xo,
Lolly
Thanks Lolly, it has been a pleasure chatting with you....Have a Happy New Year!!!
Quote from: me on December 31, 2009, 06:03:46 PM
What about Obama's gaffs when he isn't using his teleprompter? Ya'll are just assuming about Sarah Palin based on what the media reports and what they say about her. You are using selective hearing. I'm not comparing or making judgments here I'm just simply pointing out what you are doing with this Palin thing. Why is it such a big deal what she does she is a threat to no one in her current position. Why are the dems so afraid of her they keep her in the spotlight by bringing up things she does? Who cares?
Woah. Don't start firing about gaffs, the asshat that just left the WH has more footage than the stooges! :biggrin:
Not worth it, Palehorse.
Happy to ya. :smile: :smile:
Quote from: followsthewolf on December 31, 2009, 11:03:44 PM
Not worth it, Palehorse.
Happy to ya. :smile: :smile:
:smile: Yeah. . .
Happy to you and yours too! :smile:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap2Cg_FDRy4&feature=related
Barack Obama - Gaffe Mania I - Dumber than Dumb
;) ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irklZ-iZjhI
You'll run out before I do. :biggrin:
Quotehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irklZ-iZjhI
You'll run out before I do.
I see you like the JOCK SNIFFER :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5R6kVry4_c
Barack Obama - Gaffe Mania II - Hero of the Stupid
So the 'fair and balanced' news network has now signed Sarah the Stupid as a news contributor.
Quote from: followsthewolf on January 11, 2010, 02:32:06 PM
So the 'fair and balanced' news network has now signed Sarah the Stupid as a news contributor.
"Birds of a feather" and all that. . . :biggrin:
LMFAO! I just read that...I suppose when your views are so skewed from reality, even pretending to be a news rather than a purely entertainment outlet is pointless.
Palin, for her part, now has an opportunity to appear as an expert commentator on political and family issues. This enables her to stay in the public eye prior to the 2012 presidential election.
:rolleyes:
They must use the term "expert" very loosely.
I think the key word is commentator, not news reporter. Two entirely different things.
not the way fox presents the news
You know, I find it ironic that ya'll will believe anything you're told. Fox has news and they have more real news than CNN or MSNBC but it just isn't always the news current administration wants reported. CNN and MSNBC also have shows which aren't news so what is all the fuss about anyway? If you don't watch it don't knock it and you obviously don't watch it, not enough to form a real opinion of your own at any rate. Just mocking what you're told by other outlets don't make it so and it don't make it right.
The people who are fans of Faux don't seem to be able to discern between fact and opinion. (Please see sample above)
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on January 11, 2010, 08:22:40 PM
The people who are fans of Faux don't seem to be able to discern between fact and opinion. (Please see sample above)
That's what you're told to believe and you do very well so keep on keepin' on yer a good little sheeple.
Quote from: Anne on January 11, 2010, 07:27:30 PM
I think the key word is commentator, not news reporter. Two entirely different things.
See below -----V
Quote from: Locutus on January 11, 2010, 03:46:56 PM
They must use the term "expert" very loosely.
:wink:
Fux news stretches the envelope any more and they may as well change their name to the Globe or National Enquirer. . . They are already at that level. :yes:
FOX News Channel, the No. 1-rated network in cable news,
Full story
Who says FOX News doesn't like Barack Obama? The first year of the Democratic president has been good for the nation's leading cable news channel - its viewership up 7 percent in prime-time hours so far in 2009, compared to the same time last year. Make that 10 percent among the 25-54-year-olds whom advertisers love to court. As opposed to both rivals CNN, suffering an apparent post-Dobbs slump as well, and MSNBC - down by double-digits from year to year.
Who says FOX News doesn't like Barack Obama?
The first year of the Democratic president has been good for the nation's leading cable news channel - its viewership up 7 percent in prime-time hours so far in 2009, compared to the same time last year.
Make that 10 percent among the 25-54-year-olds whom advertisers love to court.
As opposed to both rivals CNN, suffering an apparent post-Dobbs slump as well, and MSNBC - down by double-digits from year to year.
Quote from: Palehorse on January 12, 2010, 12:32:29 AM
Fux news stretches the envelope any more and they may as well change their name to the Globe or National Enquirer. . . They are already at that level. :yes:
I'm sorry, but I GOT to speak up here.....and if you think MSNBC or CNN does NOT do it's share of "MIS construing" the news or spinning and twisting it so far to the left it is ridicules....the same for NBC, CBS, and ABC....they are the National Enquirer for the liberals....ie Dan Rather blantantly lying about Bush on several occassions...Katie Couric and Matt Laurer are so liberal they don't even try to hide it...Chris Matthews had shivers going down his leg when Obama spoke.....Keith Olberman is obnoxiously liberal...and YOU guys bitch and comlain about FoxNews.....it simply amazes me.....It could ONLY be sour grapes, because FoxNews kicks ASS over MSNBC, CNN and the rest by its viewership by FAR....and THAT simply bugs the crap out of the left.
THERE IS A REASON WHY FOX IS SUCCESSFULL....people go there for a reason.
THERE!!......I feel MUCH better now.
Fox news fans can't even spell misconstrue or ridiculous...think about it. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Exterminator on January 12, 2010, 09:24:19 AM
Fox news fans can't even spell misconstrue or ridiculous...think about it. :rolleyes:
DAMN IT!!!... :rant:
I KNEW I should have slowed down.....I knew it, I knew it, I knew it!!... :spooked:
It is what it is. :razz:
Quote from: Exterminator on January 12, 2010, 10:05:07 AM
It is what it is. :razz:
But you are wrong with your analysis.....funny, but wrong....(I'm the exception to the rule... :wink: :razz: )
My analysis is spot on.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 12, 2010, 08:37:25 AM
I'm sorry, but I GOT to speak up here.....and if you think MSNBC or CNN does NOT do it's share of "MIS construing" the news or spinning and twisting it so far to the left it is ridicules....the same for NBC, CBS, and ABC....they are the National Enquirer for the liberals....ie Dan Rather blantantly lying about Bush on several occassions...Katie Couric and Matt Laurer are so liberal they don't even try to hide it...Chris Matthews had shivers going down his leg when Obama spoke.....Keith Olberman is obnoxiously liberal...and YOU guys bitch and comlain about FoxNews.....it simply amazes me.....It could ONLY be sour grapes, because FoxNews kicks ASS over MSNBC, CNN and the rest by its viewership by FAR....and THAT simply bugs the crap out of the left.
THERE IS A REASON WHY FOX IS SUCCESSFULL....people go there for a reason.
THERE!!......I feel MUCH better now.
Only to the sheeple. . .
Quote from: Palehorse on January 12, 2010, 03:13:32 PM
Only to the sheeple. . .
scuse me, but the sheeple is referring to the folks that blindly voted for a POTUS who now has a popularity rating lower than any first year prez....not too far from Bush's pop rating...
you mean THOSE sheeple?... :razz:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 12, 2010, 03:19:53 PM
scuse me, but the sheeple is referring to the folks that blindly voted for a POTUS who now has a popularity rating lower than any first year prez....not too far from Bush's pop rating...
you mean THOSE sheeple?... :razz:
Naw, the sheeple watching Fux spews!
And you better stop watching that crap or the Lawd will rattle the ground and destroy you! :biggrin:
Lawdy Lawdy Lawdy Miz Claudy..
Yeah, she really is that fuckin' stupid.
SOSDD. This is the same crap that we heard during the presidential election. She debuted on the O'Liely Factor tonight.
:rolleyes:
BTW, you can tell which of the members here watch this shit on a routine basis. How many times on this thread have we heard Palin referred to as "a threat" or that the liberal are "threatened" by her? Nothing is further from the truth, but it's the same old line that O'Liely leads with in the segment above. :wink:
You guys are parrots, and you do it all day long.
Ok then why are they continually bringing her up and dissing her if she's no threat? Why are they trying so hard to discredit her? You watched what the other media had to say so why do you think they even brought it up? What was the big deal? Dissing someone else to make yourself look better is not a good thing and only makes the one doing the dissing look like a fool. Ya better lay off that kool aid before ya drown in it.
For me, I think that he discredits herself and it's fun to point out the obvious. I think it's humorous to watch the sheeple scramble to find some redeeming quality about her. :biggrin:
Those of you still hanging on to your short term memory will recall the summer of '08. There wasn't a nickel's worth of difference between the Obama and McCain platforms on the major issues. So who to vote for? (Assuming y'all really do vote for the candidate and not the party.) For me, it came down to running mates.
First there was Biden. Uh-oh. And less than a week later there was Palin. I didn't know much about her, so I settled in to find out. There was the Gibson interview. C-, despite the fact that he was chosen by her handlers. But then, she was new to the national scene and perhaps nervous. Then there was the Couric interview! Nothing since has changed the opinion I reached at that point.
Sarah Palin is Dan Quayle without the punch lines.
Sarah Palin is the punch line to the joke that is the Republican party.
Quote from: Exterminator on January 13, 2010, 08:28:48 AM
Sarah Palin is the punch line to the joke that is the Republican party.
:biggrin:
Quote from: Exterminator on January 13, 2010, 08:28:48 AM
Sarah Palin is the punch line to the joke that is the Republican party.
it seems the JOKE now days is the Democrat party....with several punchlines... :biggrin:
I'm sure you believe that but you also believe there's an invisible man that lives in the sky.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on January 13, 2010, 07:01:40 AM
For me, I think that he discredits herself and it's fun to point out the obvious. I think it's humorous to watch the sheeple scramble to find some redeeming quality about her. :biggrin:
You still didn't answer my question. Why bother to keep on putting her down since the elections are over? Why should the elite media even care about her? Of course that's the way ya'll handle things. Ignore the question and do the put down thing. :rolleyes:
Quote from: me on January 13, 2010, 03:35:29 AM
Ok then why are they continually bringing her up and dissing her if she's no threat? Why are they trying so hard to discredit her? You watched what the other media had to say so why do you think they even brought it up? What was the big deal? Dissing someone else to make yourself look better is not a good thing and only makes the one doing the dissing look like a fool. Ya better lay off that kool aid before ya drown in it.
Quote from: Exterminator on January 13, 2010, 10:59:07 AM
I'm sure you believe that but you also believe there's an invisible man that lives in the sky.
Okay, I'm in a pretty good mood, so I am going to elaborate a tad here....
First of all, I believe in a Creator, who IS God.....I am in pretty good company with this thought.....but, I have NO problem with folks like yourself who have "chosen" NOT to accept this very compelling reality.
I'm also in a pretty large crowd of folks who, with all their hearts believe, that our Country is heading in a very wrong direction.....and I belong to an even larger crowd who, without a doubt, Knows we are being screwed by several politicians in Washington RIGHT NOW.......
Closed door meetings....
Outrageous spending....
Auto makers being bought with tax payers dollars...
Banks being bought with tax payers dollars...
A healthcare bill that is NOT being supported by a large number (more than 2/3) of Americans...
growing unemployment rate climbing above 10%, when we was PROMISED it would not exceed 8% IF we passed $787 BILLION Stimulus Bill....
THEY, (democrats) want a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded....
Just find it amazing how some of you are STILL gung-ho with this train of thought.....thinking we are on the right track?....
I find it a JOKE...
Sarah Palin is a white trash douche and her daughter is a cum guzzling gutter slut. :icon_twisted:
Quote from: Exterminator on January 13, 2010, 11:22:43 AM
Sarah Palin is a white trash douche and her daughter is a cum guzzling gutter slut. :icon_twisted:
Okay, seriously, and don't sugar coat it....whataya really think about the Palins..
me - I did answer your question. You just didn't like the answer....entertainment value.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on January 13, 2010, 11:29:30 AM
me - I did answer your question. You just didn't like the answer....entertainment value.
Since when is putting someone down in that manner entertainment?
When Sarah Palin puts herself out there and is continuously trying to interject outright lies into the public discourse, she's fair game and deserves what she gets. :wink:
Exactly!
Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 13, 2010, 11:27:05 AM
Okay, seriously, and don't sugar coat it....whataya really think about the Palins..
I'm just sayin'.
Quote from: Locutus on January 13, 2010, 12:20:07 PM
When Sarah Palin puts herself out there and is continuously trying to interject outright lies into the public discourse, she's fair game and deserves what she gets. :wink:
She isn't "putting herself out there" they are by continually reporting on what she's doing. If the elite media would give it a rest since you're of the opinion no one watches Fox who would even know she was now a contributor?
You've got to be kidding! And you have the audacity to tell others they need to wake up?
What makes you think no one watches Fox? The difference is that I don't rely on it as my only news source.
Quote from: me on January 13, 2010, 03:08:41 PM
She isn't "putting herself out there" they are by continually reporting on what she's doing. If the elite media would give it a rest since you're of the opinion no one watches Fox who would even know she was now a contributor?
You mean that being a political candidate, holding public office, writing an autobiography, going on a book-selling tour, and offering her opinion about nearly every subject on the face of the Earth is not "putting herself out there"?
You need to reread what you just posted.
:spooked:
Quote from: followsthewolf on January 13, 2010, 03:43:54 PM
You mean that being a political candidate, holding public office, writing an autobiography, going on a book-selling tour, and offering her opinion about nearly every subject on the face of the Earth is not "putting herself out there"?
You need to reread what you just posted.
She isn't running for any political office that I know of, she is no longer holding a public office in case you hadn't heard, a lot of other people write books and go on tour, and a lot of other people offer opinions on national TV. So what's so special about her?
She's willing to put her comments out there in the most public way.
We make remarks here and are taken to task if they are inaccurate.
She attracts a larger audience because of her past.
Whenever a public figure, past or present, offers controversial or stupid remarks, he/she is going to be examined, minutely.
What part of this process do you not understand?
Like Harry Reid making racist remarks?.... :rolleyes:
His stupid ass remarks is NOT being taken to task....they are just hushing it and waiting for it to go away... :rolleyes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 13, 2010, 04:58:59 PM
Like Harry Reid making racist remarks?.... :rolleyes:
His stupid ass remarks is NOT being taken to task....they are just hushing it and waiting for it to go away... :rolleyes:
Maybe those in control feel the damage is outweighed by the good done; past and future? :rolleyes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 13, 2010, 04:58:59 PM
Like Harry Reid making racist remarks?.... :rolleyes:
His stupid ass remarks is NOT being taken to task....they are just hushing it and waiting for it to go away... :rolleyes:
What planet are you from?
Quote from: Palehorse on January 13, 2010, 05:05:15 PM
Maybe those in control feel the damage is outweighed by the good done; past and future?
so you are saying if this had been a republican....those in control would have ..... shipped his arse out of town?
it is just a political bias, that was supposed to go away when Obama and Pelosi took control.....they a just hypocrits....period.
Quote from: Olias on January 13, 2010, 05:05:59 PM
What planet are you from?
one where I guess you can call african american "negro's" and indicate that if your skin is too dark, you have no chance to be POTUS......because that is what was said.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 13, 2010, 05:09:52 PM
one where I guess you can call african american "negro's" and indicate that if your skin is too dark, you have no chance to be POTUS......because that is what was said.
I mean the part where you allege "His stupid ass remarks is NOT being taken to task"
He has been vilified in every major news outlet and you know it.
I saw a lot of coverage of those remarks, too.
:yes: :icon_twisted:
Quote from: Olias on January 13, 2010, 05:11:58 PM
I mean the part where you allege "His stupid ass remarks is NOT being taken to task"
He has been vilified in every major news outlet and you know it.
bullcrap, NOTHING like when Trent Lott made his comments......the democrats demanded he step down....Harry got a slap on the wrist....that's it.
Come on Hank, they've been calling for his head since the news broke. . . :confused:
Quote from: Palehorse on January 13, 2010, 07:03:03 PM
Come on Hank, they've been calling for his head since the news broke. . . :confused:
who has been calling for his head?............NOBODY has, except for Hannity and O'reily. the dems are letting this one slide.....Name ONE democrat or anyone, besides those I mentioned, that has asked him to give up his leadership.....heck, even the head of the NAACP has given him a pass.....
just for the record, I think he SHOULD be given a pass too.....I bothers me more of the double standard hypocrisy that is taken place....
I'm talking about his constituents, hell they've run him out of Nevada, and he's going to run from New York next election instead.
Now, you don't really think that any politician is going to support him being removed from majority leader do yah? That'd be political suicide. :rolleyes: :biggrin: Take yah right away from the government tit stream and put yah back at the pooper end of the pig!
Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 13, 2010, 07:08:38 PM
who has been calling for his head?............NOBODY has, except for Hannity and O'reily. the dems are letting this one slide.....Name ONE democrat or anyone, besides those I mentioned, that has asked him to give up his leadership.....heck, even the head of the NAACP has given him a pass.....
just for the record, I think he SHOULD be given a pass too.....I bothers me more of the double standard hypocrisy that is taken place....
Your quote ...
"His stupid ass remarks is NOT being taken to task"
Mine.....
"He has been vilified in every major news outlet and you know it."
Now your's again ...
"NOBODY has, except for Hannity and O'reily"
"the dems are letting this one slide"
Come on, Hank. Make up your mind. You know damn well he is being taken to the cleaners in every news outlet in the country.
And then you try to justify your position with mixed media? "the dems are letting this one slide"
Since when are "the dems" a news organization?
You might as well call Fox News a real news organization! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
That's part of the problem -- Hank equates "the dems" to all the major news organizations except Fox.
Is there a diference between being a card carrying white supremacist and speaking without thought or maybe expressing ignorance? I guess I'm confused about the comparison. Could this just be another situation being twisted by rightwing media to claim a"double-standard" or persecution? I think so.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 13, 2010, 04:58:59 PM
His stupid ass remarks is NOT...
Is this really the best you can do?
Quote from: followsthewolf on January 14, 2010, 06:07:52 AM
That's part of the problem -- Hank equates "the dems" to all the major news organizations except Fox.
Is that kinda' like every other news outlet besides Fox is referred to as the "mainstream" or "liberal" media?
;D
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on January 14, 2010, 07:27:34 AM
Is there a diference between being a card carrying white supremacist and speaking without thought or maybe expressing ignorance? I guess I'm confused about the comparison. Could this just be another situation being twisted by rightwing media to claim a"double-standard" or persecution? I think so.
Just who is it you're referring to as a card carrying white supremacist here?
Quote from: Locutus on January 14, 2010, 04:27:09 PM
Is that kinda' like every other news outlet besides Fox is referred to as the "mainstream" or "liberal" media?
;D
They have started using a new epithet lately - "elite" media.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Quote from: Olias on January 14, 2010, 04:39:57 PM
They have started using a new epithet lately - "elite" media.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
They must mean intellectually elite. :rotfl:
Quote from: Locutus on January 14, 2010, 04:45:04 PM
They must mean intellectually elite. :rotfl:
Uh, no...don't think so. :razz:
"me" you may want to research Lott without your "political bias" filter on.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on January 15, 2010, 09:47:58 AM
"me" you may want to research Lott without your "political bias" filter on.
You don't mean to tell me he was in there alongside Senator Bird do you?
Perhaps :yes: But Byrd's not the person he's being compared to.
:biggrin: Apparently she's even dumber than most of us thought:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/02/11/roland.martin.palin/index.html?hpt=T2 (http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/02/11/roland.martin.palin/index.html?hpt=T2)
Quote. . .When it was reported that President Obama's chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, told a group of liberals that they were "f-----g retards" for threatening to run ads against fellow Democrats who weren't jumping on the health care reform bandwagon, Palin demanded his resignation.
As the mother of a child with Down syndrome, Palin has often used her bully pulpit to demand respect for the mentally challenged. Nothing wrong with that. It is an issue that is close to her heart, and she should be a fierce advocate for them.
Yet when one of her biggest supporters, conservative radio talk-show host Rush Limbaugh, also castigated liberals by calling them "retards," Palin provided him cover, even trying to explain away his comments.
In an interview with Fox News Channel's Chris Wallace, she said Limbaugh was using satire, while Emanuel was blasting those who disagree with him. But anyone who can read or listen could hear Limbaugh calling folks he disagrees with the same. Palin even went further, agreeing with Limbaugh that liberals are "kooks."
So Emanuel and Limbaugh used the word "retard" to describe folks they disagree with, but only Rahm was wrong? Yep, that's how it is in Palin's world. The advocate for the mentally challenged was quick to pounce on someone she disagrees with politically but defended her patron saint, Rush.
Sarah, when you hold yourself up as a fierce protector of the mentally challenged, politics shouldn't enter into the equation. Either you criticize everyone who uses a word that you consider a slur, or you come across as a crass politician who is afraid to offend your chief booster. . .
Quote from: Palehorse on February 11, 2010, 03:17:48 PM
:biggrin: Apparently she's even dumber than most of us thought:
Hence my original name for this thread. :rotfl:
Hey Sarah, yeah the POTUS may use a teleprompter, but at least he knows how to use one.
You on the other hand, prefer to utilize your hand as a crib sheet, just as you did in grammar school.
Which practice do you think best befits the Chief Executive Officer of a Nation? :biggrin:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?fbid=Bi_iz6MB11R (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?fbid=Bi_iz6MB11R)
For those of you who keep trying to use "polls" as a representation of the true path of America, here's one for you.
Quote
As Sarah Palin marks her birthday, a new national poll indicates that 7 out of 10 Americans feel that she is not qualified to be president.
According to an ABC News/Washington Post survey, 71 percent of the public say the former Alaska governor is not qualified to serve in the White House, with 26 percent saying the 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee is qualified to be president. The 26 percent who say Palin is qualified is down 12 points from an ABC News/Washington Post poll from November. . .
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Every time she opens her mouth, Aristotle begins to spin like a lathe.
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 11, 2010, 03:41:18 PM
Every time she opens her mouth, Aristotle begins to spin like a lathe.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
It is offical....I am NOW campaigning Sarah Palin for POTUS!!!.. :yes: ;D
the hours of enjoyment I can have watching my forum pals, imploding, daily......what a refreshing frame of thought to have... :razz:
I can honestly say, Henry, that my most fervent hope is that Sarah Paliin runs for President.
I will get months of entertainment out of that, watching her embarrass herself continually and NOT EVEN KNOW IT!!!
Actually, I don't even get upset at her any more -- she is simply comic relief.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 11, 2010, 04:00:08 PM
It is offical....I am NOW campaigning Sarah Palin for POTUS!!!.. :yes: ;D
the hours of enjoyment I can have watching my forum pals, imploding, daily......what a refreshing frame of thought to have... :razz:
That is one way to make sure that the current POTUS gets elected to his second term.
Run Sarah, Run!
(http://isportsweb.com/wp-content/upload/forrest37.jpg)
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 11, 2010, 04:00:08 PM
It is offical....I am NOW campaigning Sarah Palin for POTUS!!!.. :yes: ;D
the hours of enjoyment I can have watching my forum pals, imploding, daily......what a refreshing frame of thought to have... :razz:
Please do, because if the indicators are correct, it should assure a second term for Obama if he chooses to run.
Quote from: Palehorse on February 11, 2010, 03:22:37 PM
Hey Sarah, yeah the POTUS may use a teleprompter, but at least he knows how to use one.
You on the other hand, prefer to utilize your hand as a crib sheet, just as you did in grammar school.
Which practice do you think best befits the Chief Executive Officer of a Nation? :biggrin:
That incident is a teller. Can she actually be that naive (I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt :biggrin: ) as to think after all the crap she and the RW have spewed about Obama and teleprompters that she wouldn't be under intense scrutiny any time she gives a speech/public commentary?
Why do people think she's prez material when she only has a second rate communications degree, while Obama has a poly-sci BA from Columbia and a JD (Magna Cum Laude) from Harvard, as well as being a law professor at University of Chicago Law School and they continually claim he's not qualified.
Is it because she was Governor of a state whose entire population is less than the city of Indianapolis?
I mean, come on, really.
Aw, c'mon now, Y.
'Em 'ere perfessers 'n' all 'em degree peeple don't got a lick a commin sents.
We needs us a peeple who kin tawk ta the peeple.
'n' 'at's SARAH!! WOO HOO!
Quote from: Y on February 11, 2010, 05:23:27 PM
That incident is a teller. Can she actually be that naive (I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt :biggrin: ) as to think after all the crap she and the RW have spewed about Obama and teleprompters that she wouldn't be under intense scrutiny any time she gives a speech/public commentary?
Why do people think she's prez material when she only has a second rate communications degree, while Obama has a poly-sci BA from Columbia and a JD (Magna Cum Laude) from Harvard, as well as being a law professor at University of Chicago Law School and they continually claim he's not qualified.
Is it because she was Governor of a state whose entire population is less than the city of Indianapolis?
I mean, come on, really.
Indeed.
They keep crying because they want 100% access to his transcripts etc.! Come on people, do you really think the man would receive his degree "Magna Cum Laude" (With Highest Honors) from such a prestigious institution as Harvard, and not know what he is doing? :rolleyes: (I suppose Harvard is in on it too huh?)
It just boggles the mind how low they will go. . . :rolleyes:
(I hope she uses permanent marker because when the heat gets turned up and her palms start sweating, that ink is going to smear and run and leave her unarmed!) :biggrin:
Quote from: Palehorse on February 11, 2010, 05:36:40 PM
Indeed.
They keep crying because they want 100% access to his transcripts etc.! Come on people, do you really think the man would receive his degree "Magna Cum Laude" (With Highest Honors) from such a prestigious institution as Harvard, and not know what he is doing? :rolleyes: (I suppose Harvard is in on it too huh?)
It just boggles the mind how low they will go. . . :rolleyes:
(I hope she uses permanent marker because when the heat gets turned up and her palms start sweating, that ink is going to smear and run and leave her unarmed!) :biggrin:
Oh, you mean you actually found transcripts of Obama's college years? That's odd because last I heard he had them under lock and key and the college was told they couldn't release any of his college records.
Quote from: me on February 11, 2010, 05:39:30 PM
Oh, you mean you actually found transcripts of Obama's college years? That's odd because last I heard he had them under lock and key and the college was told they couldn't release any of his college records.
See! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 11, 2010, 05:30:19 PM
Aw, c'mon now, Y.
'Em 'ere perfessers 'n' all 'em degree peeple don't got a lick a commin sents.
We needs us a peeple who kin tawk ta the peeple.
'n' 'at's SARAH!! WOO HOO!
Your comment brings to mind two things.
1) That common fallacy about 'common sense' and how the greatly un/undereducated cling to it so they aren't faced with admitting some people are just vastly more intelligent and motivated than they are.
2) That the greatly un/undereducated don't realize the difference in the dedication and work between Sarah's and Obama's degrees, and that previous actions are a prime indicator for future behavior/success.
But the 'servs (read - reactionaries) have never appeared to me to be overburdened with the over-analytical brain - unfortunately. This country would be better off if they were.
Quote from: me on February 11, 2010, 05:39:30 PM
Oh, you mean you actually found transcripts of Obama's college years? That's odd because last I heard he had them under lock and key and the college was told they couldn't release any of his college records.
My transcripts aren't available to anyone off the street (and I would bet your grade school ones aren't either :razz: :biggrin: ), why should his be?
Quote from: Y on February 11, 2010, 05:50:14 PM
My transcripts aren't available to anyone off the street (and I would bet your grade school ones aren't either :razz: :biggrin: ), why should his be?
If an employer wants my transcripts, I (yes me, not them) have to order them with delivery to the employer. Of course, one has to have college transcripts to know that, so it is easy to tell the trailer crowd obama lied about his birth certificate, college transcripts, et al.
Quote from: dan foster on February 12, 2010, 12:19:37 AM
If an employer wants my transcripts, I (yes me, not them) have to order them with delivery to the employer. Of course, one has to have college transcripts to know that, so it is easy to tell the trailer crowd obama lied about his birth certificate, college transcripts, et al.
Exactly! :biggrin:
Gee that's odd. Seems Bush's and every other person's was made available, or at least you act like you know all about their grades and what courses they took and seem to want to compare them. Oh, I'm sorry I forgot ya'll are soooo much smarter than the rest of us just because you happen to have a different opinion. Ever heard the term elitist? Seems to be an epidemic going on here.
Quote from: Y on February 11, 2010, 05:50:14 PM
My transcripts aren't available to anyone off the street (and I would bet your grade school ones aren't either :razz: :biggrin: ), why should his be?
Maybe because the American public is his employer and deserve to know exactly how his ideals were developed other than the obvious associations with rather unsavory people. Who knows, maybe they would even improve his image. And I would not be ashamed to let anyone see any of my school transcripts or my IQ rating either, wonder if/why he is.
I say if you are going to run for POTUS...you got to let EVERYTHING out there....your ACTIONS as an adult should speak volumes about your charactor and your obliterates to serve...the fact you may have failed 8th grade chemistry....will not for most folks have any impact or they shouldn't anyway.....but, Americans should know the whole history...I say lay all your cards out on the table right up front and show your abilities to lead and serve, and it don't mean diddly squat if you have a poly-sci BA from Columbia and a JD (Magna Cum Laude) from Harvard...THAT also does not necessarily mean you are a qualified leader....
Quote from: Anne on February 12, 2010, 10:29:27 AM
. . .maybe they would even improve his image. And I would not be ashamed to let anyone see any of my school transcripts or my IQ rating either, wonder if/why he is.
After seeing what the media and the opposition did surrounding the shrub's release of his information, who in their right mind would consider revealing any such information to the general public or the media short of a court order? I have nothing to hide nor be ashamed of in either category, but I am not about to release that info to just anyone.
Quote from: Y on February 11, 2010, 05:09:33 PM
Please do, because if the indicators are correct, it should assure a second term for Obama if he chooses to run.
I think I said that exact same thing myself once upon a time. ;D
Quote from: Locutus on February 12, 2010, 02:10:23 PM
I think I said that exact same thing myself once upon a time. ;D
I think if there was an election held today, it would lean towards Palin....
but, hey, I also picked the colts to win the SB...
Quote from: me on February 12, 2010, 01:21:42 AM
Gee that's odd. Seems Bush's and every other person's was made available, or at least you act like you know all about their grades and what courses they took and seem to want to compare them. Oh, I'm sorry I forgot ya'll are soooo much smarter than the rest of us just because you happen to have a different opinion. Ever heard the term elitist? Seems to be an epidemic going on here.
never compared anyone's to anything. what the fuk are you talking about?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 12, 2010, 11:08:31 AM
I say if you are going to run for POTUS...you got to let EVERYTHING out there....your ACTIONS as an adult should speak volumes about your charactor and your obliterates to serve...the fact you may have failed 8th grade chemistry....will not for most folks have any impact or they shouldn't anyway.....but, Americans should know the whole history...I say lay all your cards out on the table right up front and show your abilities to lead and serve, and it don't mean diddly squat if you have a poly-sci BA from Columbia and a JD (Magna Cum Laude) from Harvard...THAT also does not necessarily mean you are a qualified leader....
who says anyone is hiding anything? Oh yeah, fox asked the question, so he must be hiding something. dumber than shit.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 12, 2010, 02:20:11 PM
I think if there was an election held today, it would lean towards Palin....
but, hey, I also picked the colts to win the SB...
oh how I hope she runs and gets the nomination. hopefully republican and I can vote for her in the primaries in order "help". what a fucking circus she will make of the whole thing, and the idiots that think she is "just dandy". I won't say there is no way she will get elected. after all, look at the dumb fuck that got in with the 2000 election.
BTW: here candidacy will set women back a hundred years. she already damaged women in her vp bid.
Sarah may have written a couple of key words that she wanted to be sure to talk about on her hand, but she did NOT need two teleprompters to speak to some elementary students...
the bottom line is....the TRUTH again will set apart the BS's from the real patriots..and it is just a mater of TIME.....you can see it all unwravel in front of our eyes.....people are getting fed up....and beginning to open their eyes.
Just kinda hypocritical, isn't it?
I mean, what does it matter what means you use to remind yourself what you want to say?
Don't call out someone for using a teleprompter when you are writing cheat sheets on your hand.
How's that "handy-notesy" thingy workin' out fer ya?
(Oopsy-daisy, goshy-darny gotsy caughtsy. Crapsy. Gotta makey spinney.)
c'mon FTW, there is a HUGE difference, for a woman, who is NOT the POTUS, doing an interview or giving a speech, than the actual POTUS, who is merely speaking to a group of kids....Palin made a couple of "reminders" to talk about.....the POTUS is lost with out his speech written out WORD for WORD..to READ...
I would GLADLY trade Palin for Obama in a heartbeat....she has at the least, been a leader of one of our states, and proved she can deal with issues.....Obama is just a community organizer who has prove he is inexperienced...and cannot lead......
heck he has controll of the House and the senate...and all he can do is blame Bush and/or republicans because his pet issues cannot be passsed....
and all the left can do is pick on a former Gov from Alaska, because she wrote a couple of words on her hand.....this is RICH!!..
Nah.
I just find Sarah Palin criticizing anyone with an IQ above 30 a bit amusing.
Catchy-drifty?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 15, 2010, 09:23:19 AM
c'mon FTW, there is a HUGE difference, for a woman, who is NOT the POTUS, doing an interview or giving a speech, than the actual POTUS, who is merely speaking to a group of kids....Palin made a couple of "reminders" to talk about.....the POTUS is lost with out his speech written out WORD for WORD..to READ...
I would GLADLY trade Palin for Obama in a heartbeat....she has at the least, been a leader of one of our states, and proved she can deal with issues.....Obama is just a community organizer who has prove he is inexperienced...and cannot lead......
heck he has controll of the House and the senate...and all he can do is blame Bush and/or republicans because his pet issues cannot be passsed....
and all the left can do is pick on a former Gov from Alaska, because she wrote a couple of words on her hand.....this is RICH!!..
Come on Hank, even "The Great Communicator" Ronald Reagan used a teleprompter during speeches.
(http://www.historyplace.com/speeches/speechgfx/reagan-parliament3.jpg)
A teleprompter provides the speaker with the ability to make consistent eye contact with the audience, which is a key component of maintaining the attention of the audience during speeches and presentations.
Note cards, outlines, and yes, even hand notes, are distracting to the audience as the presenter has to frequently look down to obtain his/her cues, and provides windows of opportunity for attention lapse from the audience.
Communications 101. . .
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 15, 2010, 09:23:19 AM
I would GLADLY trade Palin for Obama in a heartbeat....she has at the least, been a leader of one of our states, and proved she can deal with issues.....Obama is just a community organizer who has prove he is inexperienced...and cannot lead......
You do realize palin resigned from the gov position in alaska proving she can't' deal with anything...she's a flake and an embarrassment to professional women, everywhere.
where do i buy one of those nutcrackers as shown above.
And poor Sarah, she has been trashed, tromped and stomped.
And so she isnt smart, she is a woman, she has pms once a month, so that means that 25% of the time she is kinda grumpy. If we get a female vp, and she has a different week, thats 50% of the time with grumpy women in the white house with the red phone.
Sounds like there could be a good plan with that.
and anyway, any woman that goes hunting in an airplane has my vote, cause she just flat aint right. and we all know me, i like that stuff.
NOT to a third grade class though PH....c'mon.
Quote from: dan foster on February 15, 2010, 02:16:36 PM
You do realize palin resigned from the gov position in alaska proving she can't' deal with anything...she's a flake and an embarrassment to profession women, everywhere.
it proves to me that you do NOT know what you are talking about...
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 15, 2010, 02:23:26 PM
it proves to me that you do NOT know what you are talking about...
Really? She is still gov of alaska?
Quote from: dan foster on February 15, 2010, 02:25:41 PM
Really? She is still gov of alaska?
Quote from: dan foster on February 15, 2010, 02:25:41 PM
Really? She is still gov of alaska?
No, she is not....but you STILL not know what you are talking about...with the insinuation of 'why' she left.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 15, 2010, 02:27:00 PM
No, she is not....but you STILL not know what you are talking about...with the insinuation of 'why' she left.
Really? So she did quit? OK, then you can tell us why she quit? She couldn't even do that, so how is it you can? However, would love to hear your deluded reason that you gave her, for yourself.
because of all the smear campaigns that was launched against her by the left after her VP nomination, she had so many lawsuits filed against her, that she was spending more time dealing with those than doing the work for the people of Alaska, and she was having a large sum of cash that was massing against her personal debt, because of the lefts fiasco....she did what was best for her AND the people of Alaska.
Oh, I get it now.
She resigned to save her constituency agony and herself personal and professional embarrassment.
Kinda like Nixon, eh? :yes:
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 15, 2010, 04:55:58 PM
Oh, I get it now.
She resigned to save her constituency agony and herself personal and professional embarrassment.
Kinda like Nixon, eh? :yes:
you go with that one.... ;)
How's that resigny thingy workin' for ya?
:biggrin:
If she couldn't handle the pressure in the governor's office, what makes anyone think she could handle the pressure of the White House? The stakes go up there and so does the temperature.
On a postive note, at least the right wing nuts didn't pick Coulter :spooked:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 15, 2010, 02:51:08 PM
because of all the smear campaigns that was launched against her by the left after her VP nomination, she had so many lawsuits filed against her, that she was spending more time dealing with those than doing the work for the people of Alaska, and she was having a large sum of cash that was massing against her personal debt, because of the lefts fiasco....she did what was best for her AND the people of Alaska.
So, EASIER to quit and not face jail time, not from the lawsuits, but the ethics violations she perpetrated. Yea, you go with that one. And, if the suits were frivolous, then why not stay and fight? Oh yeah, cause it is EASIER to quit. She didn't do a godamned thing for alaska, except her quitting was the best thing that could happen to them, anyway. She is a joke.
Quote from: dan foster on February 15, 2010, 06:12:24 PM
So, EASIER to quit and not face jail time, not from the lawsuits, but the ethics violations she perpetrated. Yea, you go with that one. And, if the suits were frivolous, then why not stay and fight? Oh yeah, cause it is EASIER to quit. She didn't do a godamned thing for alaska, except her quitting was the best thing that could happen to them, anyway. She is a joke.
The frivolous suits have now stopped and it is no longer costing the state of Alaska or her to defend them.
If handling the pressure was the problem then why did she jump right back into the fire?
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 15, 2010, 05:25:25 PM
:biggrin:
If she couldn't handle the pressure in the governor's office, what makes anyone think she could handle the pressure of the White House? The stakes go up there and so does the temperature.
On a postive note, at least the right wing nuts didn't pick Coulter :spooked:
Whew. The best you can say is that it's no longer costing the State of Alaska tons of money to defend her from lawsuits she incurred as a result of her being Governor.
Yet, this is the qualification that HH cites as a reason she should run for POTUS.
WTH?
Exactly!
What fire? I'm talking about her lack of responsibility to the commitment that she made. Swore to. As for the "media" fire. I never said that she isn't an attention whore.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 15, 2010, 07:20:03 PM
Exactly!
What fire? I'm talking about her lack of responsibility to the commitment that she made. Swore to. As for the "media" fire. I never said that she isn't an attention whore.
Without any doubt; a media whore. She craves the attention, from her days as a Miss USA wanabe to now.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 15, 2010, 05:25:25 PM
On a postive note, at least the right wing nuts didn't pick Coulter :spooked:
we have not picked ANYONE as far as I know...she has never even mentioned that she is running for POTUS....and I have never (seriously) said that I wanted her for POTUS...I DID say I would rather have her than Obama, and I STILL stand behind that one.....1000%.....
Of course you do...you also say things like "they was" which I expect is common of those of you with similar sentiments.
Quote from: Exterminator on February 16, 2010, 09:43:43 AM
Of course you do...you also say things like "they was" which I expect is common of those of you with similar sentiments.
Ya know Ex I hate to stoop to your level but when I read some of your posts lately the term functional idiot comes to mind and I think it fits you more and more.
So I take it you don't like me? Now ask me if I give a fat rat's ass what someone like you thinks?
Functional Idiocy? Isn't that an oxymoron?
Quote from: Palehorse on February 16, 2010, 02:18:54 PM
Functional Idiocy? Isn't that an oxymoron?
Not really if you think about it. There are some who are functional and some who are not and Ex is functional to some extent.
Didn't say I didn't like you just made an observation is all. There is one thing we can agree on though...Neither of us gives a rats ass what the other thinks about them 'cause it really doesn't matter does it.
Quote from: Exterminator on February 16, 2010, 02:16:58 PM
So I take it you don't like me? Now ask me if I give a fat rat's ass what someone like you thinks?
Most idiots I am aware of cannot meet the minimal definition of functionality. Must be some hybrid definition of functionality created by an idiot, to which you refer. :razz:
Ex is far from an idiot. . . (One needs only to consider the source to comprehend this).
Quote from: me on February 16, 2010, 02:24:31 PM
There is one thing we can agree on though...Neither of us gives a rats ass what the other thinks about them 'cause it really doesn't matter does it.
Not in the least because no one like you will even remotely have any effect on my life beyond maybe giving me a cart when I walk into WalMart.
Quote from: Exterminator on February 16, 2010, 02:38:37 PM
Not in the least because no one like you will even remotely have any effect on my life beyond maybe giving me a cart when I walk into WalMart.
(http://farbucks.typepad.com/farbucks/images/2008/05/06/walmart.jpg)
Quote from: Palehorse on February 16, 2010, 02:34:47 PM
Most idiots I am aware of cannot meet the minimal definition of functionality. Must be some hybrid definition of functionality created by an idiot, to which you refer. :razz:
Ex is far from an idiot. . . (One needs only to consider the source to comprehend this).
Actually I was kind of trying to give him a dose of his own medicine for making comments like the one in the post before this. Put downs like that are really juvenile and quite unbecoming of a person with actual knowledge who should be better able to converse without using all the put downs and name calling he does.
Well, don't get yer panties in a wad so easily Sarah, err. . . I mean "me". You can always quit! :razz:
Quote from: Palehorse on February 16, 2010, 02:46:38 PM
Well, don't get yer panties in a wad so easily Sarah, err. . . I mean "me". You can always quit! :razz:
Na, gotta stick around and get on Ex's last nerve...... :biggrin:
Quote from: me on February 16, 2010, 02:44:41 PM
Actually I was kind of trying to give him a dose of his own medicine for making comments like the one in the post before this. Put downs like that are really juvenile and quite unbecoming of a person with actual knowledge who should be better able to converse without using all the put downs and name calling he does.
Sorry but it was a simple observation of the type of people Palin typically draws as followers. I didn't invent the fact that they are, as a group, not very well educated.
I'm sorry, but it irks me a little when you speak of namecalling as if it's limited to Ex. I think everyone is guilty of it and that includes you, me. The difference is that Ex doesn't pretend that he isn't guilty. There seems to be a double standard. I've never seen you chide Henry, willy or Dr Dumbass for namecalling.
Quote from: me on February 16, 2010, 02:48:03 PM
Na, gotta stick around and get on Ex's last nerve...... :biggrin:
You're good at that, at least.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 16, 2010, 03:45:02 PM
I'm sorry, but it irks me a little when you speak of namecalling as if it's limited to Ex. I think everyone is guilty of it and that includes you, me. The difference is that Ex doesn't pretend that he isn't guilty. There seems to be a double standard. I've never seen you chide Henry, willy or Dr Dumbass for namecalling.
Wasn't singling him out he just happened to be the one posting at the moment. I can see it's useless to say anything 'cause put downs, name calling, and ridiculing are all ya'll know. Guess I'll start doing it constantly too since you think it helps get points across and proves you right.
Is it reading comprehension...would hooked on phonics help....you and your ilk already do it.
Pot meet kettle
Quote from: Exterminator on February 16, 2010, 03:42:59 PM
Sorry but it was a simple observation of the type of people Palin typically draws as followers. I didn't invent the fact that they are, as a group, not very well educated.
just for fun, I googled to find out how well educated Obama voters were; :spooked: ;D
http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/zogby-poll-almost-no-obama-voters-ace-election-test/question-192808/ (http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/zogby-poll-almost-no-obama-voters-ace-election-test/question-192808/)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl0WwC9OcOI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl0WwC9OcOI)
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=194983 (http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=194983)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzyY5g0Ai14&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzyY5g0Ai14&feature=related)
Henry, your unwitting way of proving Ex's point is magical. :thumbsup:
Quote from: me on February 16, 2010, 12:11:17 PM
Ya know Ex I hate to stoop to your level but when I read some of your posts lately the term functional idiot comes to mind and I think it fits you more and more.
Only because you think Ex doesn't understand things like "they was" and must be right stupid, or sumpen.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 16, 2010, 05:31:51 PM
Henry, your unwitting way of proving Ex's point is magical. :thumbsup:
and YOU have proved my point about, certain people being pompous and arrogance ;) :thumbsup:
Maybe, but that doesn't change the fact that I'm right. :wink:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 17, 2010, 08:45:35 AM
Maybe, but that doesn't change the fact that I'm right. :wink:
in your opinion you might be....
By the way,
Obama did not use a teleprompter when speaking to those students.
He used them for the press briefing on the same trip.
The picture of him using a teleprompter in front of the students is false.
Of course, I realize that this will make no difference to those who wanted to ridicule the POTUS, but I just wanted to set the record straight.
Actually Henry, just b/c it's my opinion that I'm right, doesn't mean that I'm wrong, even if you opinion is different. Since you disagree, then feel free to prove that I'm wrong. Thus far, you've only provided material which indicates that Ex is correct.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 17, 2010, 12:55:52 PM
Actually Henry, just b/c it's my opinion that I'm right, doesn't mean that I'm wrong, even if you opinion is different. Since you disagree, then feel free to prove that I'm wrong. Thus far, you've only provided material which indicates that Ex is correct.
that Ex is correct with his obnoxious statement?....c'mon Sandy, you are stretching pretty hard to win a pointless arguement..
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 17, 2010, 12:31:22 PM
Of course, I realize that this will make no difference to those who wanted to ridicule the POTUS, but I just wanted to set the record straight.
of course who in the right mind would ridicule a POTUS?....NOT YOU GUYS!!.. :rolleyes: :razz:
'Course not.
But then, when the ridicule is based on FACT, that is one thing; when it's based on CRAP, it's another.
Probably doesn't matter to those who ignore facts.
Facts do not interest those who are lead. . .
take a long look in the mirror ... guys.
that is all I'm saying, because the truth is going to reveal itself as time moves on.
...and the beat goes on :rolleyes:
:drummer: keep pounding a rhythm to the brain
La de da de de, la de da de da :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
:) it feels good when you KNOW you are on the right side of things... :yes:
And after 20 pages of posts, I declare, "Yes! Sarah Palin really is fuckin' stupid." :rotfl:
Quote from: Locutus on February 17, 2010, 02:05:58 PM
And after 20 pages of posts, I declare, "Yes! Sarah Palin really is fuckin' stupid." :rotfl:
of course you would....you actually have drank the kool ade and are simply gullible enough to believe such "posts".... :razz:
but THAT would be arrogant of me to make such a claim wouldn't it.... :rolleyes: :razz:
Isn't that word the property of others?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 17, 2010, 02:21:30 PM
of course you would....you actually have drank the kool ade and are simply gullible enough to believe such "posts".... :razz:
but THAT would be arrogant of me to make such a claim wouldn't it.... :rolleyes: :razz:
I haven't drank Koolaid HH. I'm simply basing that on the woman's own words and actions. :wink:
"How's that hopey-changey stuff workin' out for ya?"
:rolleyes:
Sarah Palin doesn't appeal to anyone with an IQ over 90, not even Republicans. Her biggest group of followers are the tea party idiots. That should tell you something.
Quote from: Locutus on February 17, 2010, 02:25:50 PM
I haven't drank Koolaid HH. I'm simply basing that on the woman's own words and actions. :wink:
"How's that hopey-changey stuff workin' out for ya?"
:rolleyes:
Sarah Palin doesn't appeal to anyone with an IQ over 90, not even Republicans. Her biggest group of followers are the tea party idiots. That should tell you something.
Oh wow, what a basis that is for judging someone on their intelligence. At least she knows how many states there are. :razz:
Quote from: me on February 17, 2010, 02:29:13 PM
Oh wow, what a basis that is for judging someone on their intelligence. At least she knows how many states there are. :razz:
For more evidence, see the very first post in this thread, and as a reminder, it wasn't about the eons, ...er ions. :wink:
Quote from: Locutus on February 17, 2010, 02:25:50 PM
Sarah Palin doesn't appeal to anyone with an IQ over 90
got anything to back that up....or are you just imploring your opinion?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 17, 2010, 03:03:46 PM
got anything to back that up....or are you just imploring your opinion?
Here's all the proof I need. You really have to be RETARDED to believe in witches.
(http://www.queerty.com/wp/docs/2008/09/palinblessedwitch-1.jpg)
Quote from: dan foster on February 17, 2010, 07:51:53 PM
Here's all the proof I need. You really have to be RETARDED to believe in witches.
(http://www.queerty.com/wp/docs/2008/09/palinblessedwitch-1.jpg)
Uh oh!! You went played the retard card. :biggrin:
Quote from: dan foster on February 17, 2010, 07:51:53 PM
Here's all the proof I need. You really have to be RETARDED to believe in witches.
(http://www.queerty.com/wp/docs/2008/09/palinblessedwitch-1.jpg)
I'll have to say one thing for ya'll ya sure have learned how to make fun of people real well. What an accomplishment.
BTW Dan did your girl friend give you permission to use her pic for your avatar?
Quote from: ? on February 17, 2010, 08:01:58 PM
Uh oh!! You went played the retard card. :biggrin:
If Rush can do it and get away with it, why can't anyone else?
Quote from: me on February 17, 2010, 08:13:23 PM
I'll have to say one thing for ya'll ya sure have learned how to make fun of people real well. What an accomplishment.
BTW Dan did your girl friend give you permission to use her pic for your avatar?
My avatar is a blow up beck doll, complete with a gaping mouth for the GOP to put themselves in.
Thought it looked more like Glen Beck with braids.
Well, well!
Looks like the ultra-conservative columnist George F. Will has joined the fray!
Surprise, surprise!!!!!
"Sarah Palin, who with 17 months remaining in her single term as Alaska's governor quit the only serious office she has ever held, is obsessively discussed as a possible candidate in 2012. Why? She is not going to be president and will not be the Republican nominee unless the party wants to lose at least 44 states. "
"The more attention Palin receives, the fewer Americans consider her presidential timber. The latest Post-ABC News poll shows that 71 percent of Americans -- including 52 percent of Republicans -- think she is not qualified to be president. "
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/17/AR2010021703507.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/17/AR2010021703507.html)
For me, I expect, and prefer someone with more experience and who is conservative, through and through. But, I still believe she is JUST as qualified as Obama. I prefer neither at this juncture, but I am looking forward to 2012.
The fact that you think she is JUST as qualified as Obama despite overwhelming evidence that she is not, is disturbing. It implies that you put your faith in emotion rather than logic. However, it's a free country, believe what you want. :biggrin:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 18, 2010, 09:14:35 AM
The fact that you think she is JUST as qualified as Obama despite overwhelming evidence that she is not, is disturbing. It implies that you put your faith in emotion rather than logic. However, it's a free country, believe what you want. :biggrin:
let me see your overwhelming evidence that HE is more qualified......it seems to me that YOU are the one who is using emotion, rather than facts.....She was a Governor of a very large state, and was mayor....he was a first term senator, and was a community organizer....Just because someone has a major college under their belt does NOT make one MORE qualified at something....
She quit and he hasn't - case closed ;D
Oh and I disagree about education. A quality education in a subject related to the duties of the postion can indicate a better qualified candidate.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 18, 2010, 08:49:08 AM
I am looking forward to 2012.
So am I!!! I hope the Republican party picks her to run!!!!
As George F. Will wrote this morning "She is not going to be president and will not be the Republican nominee unless the party
wants to lose at least 44 states. "
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 18, 2010, 09:45:30 AM
Oh and I disagree about education. A quality education in a subject related to the duties of the postion can indicate a better qualified candidate.
Quality education in what? Have you seen his college records? Do you know what his grades were, what courses he took, what kind of law he studied? Yes, he worked for a law firm but was it as an apprentice attorney or did he actually take and pass the bar exam? Can you explain why his life hasn't been allowed to be put under a microscope like his opponents were? Sure Sarah Palin may not really be qualified but that is a moot point since she isn't even in the picture yet so why is she even being discussed or compared? Show me the proof Obama is qualified not just a because the media or he told you he was.
Quote from: me on February 18, 2010, 10:18:14 AM
she isn't even in the picture yet so why is she even being discussed
Evidently she is in the picture or a noted columnist such as Will wouldn't bother to warn his fellow conservatives about picking her to run.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 18, 2010, 09:45:30 AM
Oh and I disagree about education. A quality education in a subject related to the duties of the postion can indicate a better qualified candidate.
I think there is MUCH more to being a great leader than having a great GPA.....There are some folks who have great hearts, with the ability to inspire others to do great things...which has absolutly nothing with a great education......
Quote from: Olias on February 18, 2010, 10:26:17 AM
Evidently she is in the picture or a noted columnist such as Will wouldn't bother to warn his fellow conservatives about picking her to run.
That is called speculation not fact. Fact is they may not be thinking about nominating her to run speculation is Will thinks they might be thinking about it so he writes an opinion column stating his opinion about her running. I ask again why bother discussing her qualifications or lack thereof when she may not even run?
As I pointed out earlier, Henry, your comments indicate that you make your decisions based on emotion rather than logic.
me, do the research then make the comparison and you will have the answers to your questions...if that's what you really want.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 18, 2010, 11:05:47 AM
As I pointed out earlier, Henry, your comments indicate that you make your decisions based on emotion rather than logic.
me, do the research then make the comparison and you will have the answers to your questions...if that's what you really want.
but you don't have any overwhelming evidence that Obama is more qualified....RIGHT.
None are so blind as those who refuse to see.
If you don't like the two substantive reasons that I just posted, then how about Obama"s "great heart and ability to inspire others to do great things"? Does that make you get all warm and fuzzy feelin'?
Palin may inspire the gag reflex, but you'd be hard pressed to find much more.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 18, 2010, 11:22:08 AM
If you don't like the two substantive reasons that I just posted, then how about Obama"s "great heart and ability to inspire others to do great things"? Does that make you get all warm and fuzzy feelin'?
Palin may inspire the gag reflex, but you'd be hard pressed to find much more.
it cracks me up how "highly" intelligent that you folks, self-proclaim...and then you say things so outrageous....despite your ability or desire to "like"Palin, she is a very intelligent, hard working woman, mother, wife...who HAS accomplished quite a bit at her young age....
Quote from: me on February 18, 2010, 10:38:00 AM
she may not even run?
Speculation on your part.
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Quote from: Olias on February 18, 2010, 12:12:14 PM
Speculation on your part.
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Just as it is on Will's part that she will.
Quote from: me on February 18, 2010, 12:16:31 PM
Just as it is on Will's part that she will.
Of course it is. Do you have any FACTS to prove she
isn't planning to run?
To answer the thread's original question....NO! :no:
Quote from: Olias on February 18, 2010, 12:24:06 PM
Of course it is. Do you have any FACTS to prove she isn't planning to run?
Exactly my point. It's all speculation so why all the discussion about her when it is Obama who has ran and is in the White House we should have been and should be asking the questions about.
To answer the original question..highly intelligent people realize that she is...even moderately intelligent people think that she is...I don't wanna say where that would leave the people who think she isn't. :biggrin:
Quote from: me on February 18, 2010, 01:04:25 PM
Exactly my point. It's all speculation so why all the discussion about her when it is Obama who has ran and is in the White House we should have been and should be asking the questions about.
Isn't it perfectly natural to speculate on the next election cycle? Isn't that what we do?
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 18, 2010, 01:04:37 PM
To answer the original question..highly intelligent people realize that she is...even moderately intelligent people think that she is...I don't wanna say where that would leave the people who think she isn't. :biggrin:
To restate a quote from an earlier post ....
"The latest Post-ABC News poll shows that 71 percent of Americans -- including 52 percent of Republicans -- think she is not qualified to be president. "
Quote from: Olias on February 18, 2010, 01:18:11 PM
Isn't it perfectly natural to speculate on the next election cycle? Isn't that what we do?
Speculation is normal but trashing and demeaning someone isn't. It is called fear from the other side that she might be a threat. Ya'll are concentrating so hard on trashing Sarah Palin you're not even noticing what's going on now.
Quote from: Olias on February 18, 2010, 01:20:19 PM
To restate a quote from an earlier post ....
"The latest Post-ABC News poll shows that 71 percent of Americans -- including 52 percent of Republicans -- think she is not qualified to be president. "
And that poll was important because? Why did they even bother to take a poll about it? Are the elections going to be this year or even next?
to smear the charactor of Palin, before she gets too strong...THAT is why there is so much hype....imo
Quote from: me on February 18, 2010, 01:24:34 PM
It is called fear from the other side that she might be a threat.
:rotfl: :rotfl:
That is the most baseless accusation that I continue to hear from Palin's dittohead supporters.
Given this:
Quote from: Olias on February 18, 2010, 01:20:19 PM
"The latest Post-ABC News poll shows that 71 percent of Americans -- including 52 percent of Republicans -- think she is not qualified to be president. "
... I'm left to wonder what exactly there is to fear.
Quote from: Locutus on February 18, 2010, 01:33:20 PM
:rotfl: :rotfl:
That is the most baseless accusation that I continue to hear from Palin's dittohead supporters.
Given this:
... I'm left to wonder what exactly there is to fear.
If there is no fear and no one thinks she'll even be nominated or elected if she does chose to run then why bother with all the trashing and news coverage? Why not be reporting something else like current events and things that matter? Why waste the air time?
Quote from: me on February 18, 2010, 01:37:48 PM
If there is no fear and no one thinks she'll even be nominated or elected if she does chose to run then why bother with all the trashing and news coverage? Why not be reporting something else like current events and things that matter? Why waste the air time?
Why does she continue to impose herself within the public arena then? Why doesn't she just go back to Alaska and prepare for the spring bear hunt? Why quit a job she took an oath to do, then travel the country, write a book, and lend her support to those who would undermine the authority and position of the POTUS?
Hey, she's the one putting herself out there. She gets what she wants; attention.
Quote from: me on February 18, 2010, 01:37:48 PM
If there is no fear and no one thinks she'll even be nominated or elected if she does chose to run then why bother with all the trashing and news coverage? Why not be reporting something else like current events and things that matter? Why waste the air time?
Just to get under your skin! :poke: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Quote from: me on February 18, 2010, 01:24:34 PM
It is called fear from the other side that she might be a threat.
Fear? What fear? What part of ....
Quote from: Olias on February 18, 2010, 09:57:52 AM
I hope the Republican party picks her to run!!!!
As George F. Will wrote this morning "She is not going to be president and will not be the Republican nominee unless the party wants to lose at least 44 states. "
do you not understand?
Quote from: Palehorse on February 18, 2010, 01:40:51 PM
Why does she continue to impose herself within the public arena then? Why doesn't she just go back to Alaska and prepare for the spring bear hunt? Why quit a job she took an oath to do, then travel the country, write a book, and lend her support to those who would undermine the authority and position of the POTUS?
Hey, she's the one putting herself out there. She gets what she wants; attention.
That has been answered over and over and over. Should she have stayed hounds would have still been after her and it would still be costing the State so she chose the correct solution IMO. Why isn't the news media paying any attention to Mitt Romney since he's a possible candidate? Or even Mike Huckabee who might also decide to run again?
Quote from: me on February 18, 2010, 01:58:30 PM
That has been answered over and over and over. Should she have stayed hounds would have still been after her and it would still be costing the State so she chose the correct solution IMO. Why isn't the news media paying any attention to Mitt Romney since he's a possible candidate? Or even Mike Huckabee who might also decide to run again?
Okay, clearly she runs from conflict. But what about the rest of the posts questions?
Quote from: Palehorse on February 18, 2010, 01:40:51 PM
Why does she continue to impose herself within the public arena then? Why doesn't she just go back to Alaska and prepare for the spring bear hunt? Why quit a job she took an oath to do, then travel the country, write a book, and lend her support to those who would undermine the authority and position of the POTUS?
Hey, she's the one putting herself out there. She gets what she wants; attention.
The fight or flight instinct weighs heavily on the flight, clearly. I don't know about anyone else but to me this is a clear indication that this individual has no business in a public office of any type. So why does she continue to do things to attract attention to herself? (Hint: Attention Whore).
Quote from: Palehorse on February 18, 2010, 02:08:24 PM
Okay, clearly she runs from conflict. But what about the rest of the posts questions?
The fight or flight instinct weighs heavily on the flight, clearly. I don't know about anyone else but to me this is a clear indication that this individual has no business in a public office of any type. So why does she continue to do things to attract attention to herself? (Hint: Attention Whore).
Um, it's the media's choice to pursue her not hers to have them do it. Yes, she chose to be a Fox contributor, so what, a lot of other people work for Fox too including Mike Huckabee and they don't pursue him. The media is paying an awful lot of attention to someone who they are calling an attention whore and then calling her that because they choose to put everything on the air or in print that she does. Mitt Romney is still going out and doing things publicly and so is Mike Huckabee and some of the other potential candidates, some also Fox news contributors, and they aren't following them around and calling them attention whores. Why is that?
Quote from: Palehorse on February 18, 2010, 02:08:24 PM
So why does she continue to do things to attract attention to herself? (Hint: Attention Whore).
Another example of said behavior ...
"In March, she came roaring out when President Obama joked on late night TV that his bowling skills were like the Special Olympics.
Palin wasn't wrong about the inappropriateness of the remark, for which the president apologized to the Special Olympics before the segment aired. But were her objections primarily those of a wounded mother -- or those of a heat-seeking politician? Will we be hearing from Palin every time someone uses the R-word or makes a lame joke?
Well, no, not every time.
When Rush Limbaugh used "retard," suggesting a "retard summit" at the White House, it was "satirical," Palin recently explained to her Fox News colleague, Chris Wallace. When Emanuel used it, it was name-calling. It isn't clear whether Palin considered Rush's memorable mimicry of Michael J. Fox's "fake" Parkinson's disease symptoms another demonstration of satire or mere hideous cruelty.Given that
Palin obviously made an excuse for Limbaugh, whose stab at humor was nothing resembling satire, means that her "teachable moment" via Emanuel was really
using her child as a political tool."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/12/AR2010021204006_2.html?sid=ST2010021202633 (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/12/AR2010021204006_2.html?sid=ST2010021202633)
Quote from: Olias on February 18, 2010, 02:18:18 PM
Another example of said behavior ...
"In March, she came roaring out when President Obama joked on late night TV that his bowling skills were like the Special Olympics.
Palin wasn't wrong about the inappropriateness of the remark, for which the president apologized to the Special Olympics before the segment aired. But were her objections primarily those of a wounded mother -- or those of a heat-seeking politician? Will we be hearing from Palin every time someone uses the R-word or makes a lame joke?
Well, no, not every time. When Rush Limbaugh used "retard," suggesting a "retard summit" at the White House, it was "satirical," Palin recently explained to her Fox News colleague, Chris Wallace. When Emanuel used it, it was name-calling. It isn't clear whether Palin considered Rush's memorable mimicry of Michael J. Fox's "fake" Parkinson's disease symptoms another demonstration of satire or mere hideous cruelty.
Given that Palin obviously made an excuse for Limbaugh, whose stab at humor was nothing resembling satire, means that her "teachable moment" via Emanuel was really using her child as a political tool."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/12/AR2010021204006_2.html?sid=ST2010021202633 (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/12/AR2010021204006_2.html?sid=ST2010021202633)
And another:
Quote
At event with a large number of 'empty seats,' Palin mocks the 'little Twittering thing.'
Sarah Palin Former Alaska governor and Fox News analyst Sarah Palin spoke to a crowd of Republican Party activists in Arkansas yesterday, where she lavished praise on the Tea Party movement and played down speculation that she might run for president in 2012. She also then mocked Twitter:
When she was asked what she believed was the number one threat to America today, several audience members shouted, "Obama!"
Arkansas Republican Party Chairman Doyle Webb, who moderated the Q&A session, responded by adding, "Besides Obama."
Palin then chimed in as many in the crowd laughed.
"See, they said that, I didn't," she said. "Just you watch now, too, because somebody will be here with their little Twittering thing, and it's going to be on the Internet any minute now."
It's unclear what Palin has against the "little Twittering thing," considering she is also on Twitter (@SarahPalinUSA) and has actually been noted for supposed new media saviness. Last night's event in Little Rock's 18,000-seat Verizon Arena had a significant number of empty seats. In fact, fewer than half the seats "in the lower bowl were occupied, and the entire upper level was shrouded by black drapes." In the hours before the Palin event, "the Arkansas GOP was advertising on its web site a heavily discounted '$20 ticket special.'"
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/02/17/palin-twittering/ (http://thinkprogress.org/2010/02/17/palin-twittering/)
No while I may agree in basis that this thing is being somewhat fueled by the media, I submit that anyone with any kind of matter what-so-ever between their ears would recognize it and react accordingly. But not the attention whore! She just keeps gong, and going, and going. . . . :rolleyes:
you show me a candidate that is doing ANYTHING any different than she is.....
she is being diasected and trashed....by the media.
I'm sure this whole fiasco is going to go on and on and on for a long time now....
the media needs a real story...
I wonder why the loony bitch is complaining about Twitter when this very thread sprung out of something she had on her own Twitter page.
... maybe she's got too many eons and ions floatin' 'round where her brain should be. :rotfl:
Quote from: Locutus on February 18, 2010, 02:34:31 PM
I wonder why the loony bitch is complaining about Twitter when this very thread sprung out of something she had on her own Twitter page.
Yep! I found that fact quite ironic! :biggrin:
Back to the SAT score comparison ...
Henry thought it was OK to 'extrapolate' the IQ of Bush from his SAT scores.
Here is an article that 'extrapolates' the SAT score for Palin based on the first and last college (of five) she attended ...
"Palin went to five universities in six years to get a four year degree.
Her first college, Hawaii Pacific University, has average SAT scores which show their average student is less intelligent than the average person.
While the average score is 500 on each of the two SAT categories, verbal and math, HPU's average scores are:
Average SAT scores: V 487 M 488 (Source: http://www.collegeprofiles.com/hawaiipacific.htm)
Then, for reasons which are not disclosed, she withdrew and enrolled in a series of schools over six years before finally graduating from University of Idaho with a Bachelors of Science. The average SAT scores from U of I are:
University of Idaho
549 Verbal
559 Math
23 ACT "
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_was_sarah_palin%27s_SAT_score (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_was_sarah_palin%27s_SAT_score)
Quote from: Olias on February 18, 2010, 02:42:16 PM
Back to the SAT score comparison ...
Henry thought it was OK to 'extrapolate' the IQ of Bush from his SAT scores.
Here is an article that 'extrapolates' the SAT score for Palin based on the first and last college (of five) she attended ...
"Palin went to five universities in six years to get a four year degree.
Her first college, Hawaii Pacific University, has average SAT scores which show their average student is less intelligent than the average person.
While the average score is 500 on each of the two SAT categories, verbal and math, HPU's average scores are:
Average SAT scores: V 487 M 488 (Source: http://www.collegeprofiles.com/hawaiipacific.htm)
Then, for reasons which are not disclosed, she withdrew and enrolled in a series of schools over six years before finally graduating from University of Idaho with a Bachelors of Science. The average SAT scores from U of I are:
University of Idaho
549 Verbal
559 Math
23 ACT "
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_was_sarah_palin%27s_SAT_score (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_was_sarah_palin%27s_SAT_score)
And this has what to do with anything? This is an assumption not an actual score. :rolleyes:
Quote from: me on February 18, 2010, 03:44:17 PM
And this has what to do with anything? This is an assumption not an actual score. :rolleyes:
Oh? But it was OK for Henry to post an
assumption of Bush's IQ score?
:rolleyes: Hypocrisy knows no bounds!
:rolleyes:
QuoteBush scored 1206 on his SAT, putting his IQ in the 125-130 range, smarter than 95% of the population and in the company of Lincoln, Rousseau, and Thackeray. He graduated from Yale and earned an MBA from Harvard. Obama earned a law degree from Harvard, but has not released any of his academic records. Despite what you might have heard, we know nothing of his IQ, test scores, or grades from any of the schools he attended.
"Bush scored 1206 on his SAT, putting his IQ in the 125-130 range"
And this is not an assumption of Bush's IQ score???
Please try to keep up.
:rolleyes:
Quote from: Olias on February 18, 2010, 04:16:18 PM
"Bush scored 1206 on his SAT, putting his IQ in the 125-130 range"
And this is not an assumption of Bush's IQ score???
Please try to keep up.
:rolleyes:
Does it say "this is an assumption or estimate of what we think Bush's IQ score is or was"?
Quote from: me on February 18, 2010, 04:30:02 PM
Does it say "this is an assumption or estimate of what we think Bush's IQ score is or was"?
It is an assumption based on an average correlation of IQ and SAT scores.
It is in NO WAY a fact.
Quote from: Olias on February 18, 2010, 04:40:59 PM
It is an assumption based on an average correlation of IQ and SAT scores. It is in NO WAY a fact.
What????? Isn't that what everyone is trying to do with Sarah Palin without even knowing what her SAT scores really are?
Quote from: me on February 18, 2010, 04:46:31 PM
What????? Isn't that what everyone is trying to do with Sarah Palin without even knowing what her SAT scores really are?
Isn't that what YOU are doing with Bush without even knowing what his IQ really is?
Me, give up.....this is only a one-way street, and it is full of liberal drivers... :razz:
you and I are JUST being hard headed...shame on us... :razz:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 18, 2010, 04:57:08 PM
Me, give up.....
Yes. Give up. Just like your hero, Palin.
Quote from: Olias on February 18, 2010, 04:58:51 PM
Yes. Give up. Just like your hero, Palin.
okay, not as funny as the first time...
I'm not in the mood for funny.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 18, 2010, 04:57:08 PM
Me, give up.....this is only a one-way street, and it is full of liberal drivers... :razz:
you and I are JUST being hard headed...shame on us... :razz:
I know. Like Al Bore said about global warming, there is no room for debate here 'cause it's all cut and dried. :rolleyes: They really need to stand back from the forest a little so they can see the trees.
Quote from: me on February 18, 2010, 01:37:48 PM
Why waste the air time?
Comic relief. Coyote knows we need it.
Quote from: me on February 18, 2010, 10:18:14 AM
Quality education in what? Have you seen his college records? Do you know what his grades were, what courses he took, what kind of law he studied? Yes, he worked for a law firm but was it as an apprentice attorney or did he actually take and pass the bar exam? Can you explain why his life hasn't been allowed to be put under a microscope like his opponents were? Sure Sarah Palin may not really be qualified but that is a moot point since she isn't even in the picture yet so why is she even being discussed or compared? Show me the proof Obama is qualified not just a because the media or he told you he was.
You a racist. Your method of questioning his qualifications (without some indication he is not qualified) makes you one.
Quote from: dan foster on February 18, 2010, 07:56:11 PM
You a racist. Your method of questioning his qualifications (without some indication he is not qualified) makes you one.
What????? Under the circumstances I would question if he were purple or sky blue pink. He is giving the appearance he has something to hide by not wanting anyone to talk about his college years. If he graduated with high marks whats the harm in letting people know anyway?
QuoteAs staunch conservatives who defend truth, justice, and the American right wing way, Brent Bozell's NewsBusters acolytes also defend Sarah Palin from those who dare to criticize this embodiment of virtuous conservative womanhood. Palin is now pissed at Fox Entertainment's "The Family Guy" (a perennial outrage of NewsBusters) because, she claims, they mocked her son who has Down syndrome. MSNBC's Dylan Ratigan, in reporting her reaction to the Fox Entertainment comedy (an equal opportunity mocker) said that "If Palin really wanted to make a statement, she would reject her paycheck from Fox and remove herself from the network, wouldn't she?" In responding to this example of "liberal bias" and a charge that Palin might be a "hypocrite," NewsBuster Kyle Drennen made a statement that is, at best, uninformed – and at worst, totally delusional: "Of course, Fox News has no connection to the Fox broadcast channel or any of its entertainment programming." As a Congressman from Massachusetts once said, "What planet are you from?"
http://www.newshounds.us/
:biggrin:
Quote from: me on February 18, 2010, 08:14:50 PM
What????? Under the circumstances I would question if he were purple or sky blue pink. He is giving the appearance he has something to hide by not wanting anyone to talk about his college years. If he graduated with high marks whats the harm in letting people know anyway?
What's Palin hiding by not revealing her IQ?
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 18, 2010, 08:31:59 PM
What's Palin hiding by not revealing her IQ?
She isn't working for us Obama is. She is in the private sector. What part about that can't you seem to get a grasp on?
Quote from: me on February 18, 2010, 08:54:54 PM
She isn't working for us Obama is. She is in the private sector. What part about that can't you seem to get a grasp on?
What part of hypocrisy can't you seem to get a grasp of? She was employed by Alaska, but yet she didn't reveal anything re: her education. What's she got to hide?
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 18, 2010, 09:03:50 PM
What part of hypocrisy can't you seem to get a grasp of? She was employed by Alaska, but yet she didn't reveal anything re: her education. What's she got to hide?
Do you know that she was asked to reveal it?
Quote from: me on February 18, 2010, 09:05:57 PM
Do you know that she was asked to reveal it?
Seriously? That's the best you've got?
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 18, 2010, 09:08:31 PM
Seriously? That's the best you've got?
Seriously...Was she asked to reveal it? If she had been asked would she have revealed it. You are grasping at straws here ya know. You go on and on about someone who really doesn't matter in the scheme of things at the present like the elections are still happening or about to and she's running. Why is she any more important than any of the other potential candidates that the media has to keep trashing her and hounding her every move? Start putting as much effort into checking out SEIU and Acorn.
Quote from: me on February 18, 2010, 09:18:12 PM
Why is she any more important than any of the other potential candidates that the media has to keep trashing her and hounding her every move?
She isn't more important. She's just funnier.
But re whether she was asked to reveal it ... c'mon, she was a candidate for VP.
Somebody ran a background check, and decided not to list the unremarkable achievements in the press kit.
Quote from: me on February 18, 2010, 09:18:12 PM
Seriously...Was she asked to reveal it? If she had been asked would she have revealed it.
She has been asked time after time. Too many times to even list here. There have even been petitions circulated to encourage her to reveal her college records.
Then it looks like she and Obama both are hiding things if that is the case.
Did anyone notice that the actress who played Chris's date on "Family Guy" has blasted Palin for her defense of Limbaugh and the way she carries her son (the one with with Down Syndrome)?
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 19, 2010, 02:03:15 PM
Did anyone notice that the actress who played Chris's date on "Family Guy" has blasted Palin for her defense of Limbaugh and the way she carries her son (the one with with Down Syndrome)?
Shows like that are why I no longer watch TV. I'd rather see a good movie or music video.
(CNN) - The actress who lent her voice to a character with Down syndrome on a recent episode of Fox's "Family Guy" is defending the portrayal against attacks from Sarah Palin.
Andrea Fay Friedman, the actress who herself has Down syndrome, said the scene was merely meant to be sarcastic.
"I guess former Governor Palin does not have a sense of humor," she said in an e-mail to the New York Times. "I thought the line 'I am the daughter of the former governor of Alaska' was very funny. I think the word is 'sarcasm.' In my family we think laughing is good. My parents raised me to have a sense of humor and to live a normal life."
In Sunday's episode, a teenaged female character with Down syndrome told another character that "my mom is the former governor of Alaska." A song and dance routine by another character also used language that ridiculed people with disabilities.
Palin, whose 22-month-old son, Trig, has the genetic disorder, said on her Facebook page Monday that she was too angry to offer a coherent response so she had her daughter, Bristol, release a full statement on the family's behalf.
"People are asking me to comment on yesterday's Fox show that felt like another kick in the gut," Palin, a Fox News contributor, wrote. "Bristol was one who asked what I thought of the show that mocked her baby brother, Trig (and/or others with special needs), in an episode yesterday. Instead of answering, I asked her what she thought. Here is her conscientious reply, which is a much more restrained and gracious statement than I want to make about an issue that begs the question, 'when is enough, enough?'"
Bristol Palin's statement was posted below her mother's Facebook entry, which read in part that the joke "hurt too much for us to remain silent."
"People with special needs face challenges that many of us will never confront, and yet they are some of the kindest and most loving people you'll ever meet," wrote Bristol. "Their lives are difficult enough as it is, so why would anyone want to make their lives more difficult by mocking them?"
Speaking to the New York Times, Friedman also said she did not view the joke as an insult.
"It's not really an insult. I was doing my role, I'm an actor. I'm entitled to say something. It was really funny. I was laughing at it. I had a nice time doing voiceover. It was my first time doing a voiceover, and I had fun," she said.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/02/19/%E2%80%98family-guy%E2%80%99-actress-defends-portrayal-that-irked-palin/?fbid=bFPFuwVtHBB#more-90868 (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/02/19/%E2%80%98family-guy%E2%80%99-actress-defends-portrayal-that-irked-palin/?fbid=bFPFuwVtHBB#more-90868)
Wow. Now Pretty Pony Palin is blasting Family Guy (a cartoon that specializes in being sarcastic and non-politically correct). The stupidity just gets deeper, and deeper, and deeper. . . :rolleyes:
Hey Sarah, if you don't like it, here's a clue: TURN IT OFF! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Hum, wonder if the "joke" had been directed toward her or her family if she would have thought it funny.
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 19, 2010, 02:03:15 PM
Did anyone notice that the actress who played Chris's date on "Family Guy" has blasted Palin for her defense of Limbaugh and the way she carries her son (the one with with Down Syndrome)?
She also has Down's syndrome herself.
Exactly. That's why it was such a burn.
Quote from: me on February 19, 2010, 02:20:26 PM
Hum, wonder if the "joke" had been directed toward her or her family if she would have thought it funny.
I believe she retains diplomatic immunity to such insults, because she suffers from affliction. :smile:
what is this .... third grade? :rolleyes: :razz:
Now that I don't understand.
You see, Sarah Palin is NOT the ONLY person who either has the affliction herself or knows someone who does.
The FACT, Henry that the actress who played the person has Down's Syndrome herself makes a huge statement about Palin's handling of the situation. She's wallowing in it for personal gain. The actress has every right to take her to task for her attitude.
Look it up and read what the actress had to say about it.
Obviously, you don't get it.
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 19, 2010, 03:15:23 PM
Now that I don't understand.
You see, Sarah Palin is NOT the ONLY person who either has the affliction herself or knows someone who does.
The FACT, Henry that the actress who played the person has Down's Syndrome herself makes a huge statement about Palin's handling of the situation. She's wallowing in it for personal gain. The actress has every right to take her to task for her attitude.
Look it up and read what the actress had to say about it.
Obviously, you don't get it.
Ok lets put it this way. If you were doing something you believed in and wanted to do and you and your family were being made fun of and ridiculed day after day on national TV wouldn't you get a little testy?
Quote from: me on February 19, 2010, 03:46:56 PM
Ok lets put it this way. If you were doing something you believed in and wanted to do and you and your family were being made fun of and ridiculed day after day on national TV wouldn't you get a little testy?
Does Michelle Obama seem testy to you? She has been called a gorilla, a monkey, an ape, vilified for her big butt, and made fun of for having buck teeth.
Yet she maintains a grace that is inspiring.
Next .................................
Quote from: me on February 19, 2010, 03:46:56 PM
Ok lets put it this way. If you were doing something you believed in and wanted to do and you and your family were being made fun of and ridiculed day after day on national TV wouldn't you get a little testy?
I think it's been pointed out numerous times before, and this thread is replete with evidence that she brings a lot of the shit on herself.
Is it Palin's goal to always have her son treated differently because of his condition or does she think that people with Down's syndrome shouldn't date people who do not have it? Where is the harm in having cartoon characters with whatever affliction if that is a reflective of those people living in our society in real life?
Quote from: Olias on February 19, 2010, 03:59:41 PM
Does Michelle Obama seem testy to you? She has been called a gorilla, a monkey, an ape, vilified for her big butt, and made fun of for having buck teeth.
Yet she maintains a grace that is inspiring.
Next .................................
yeah, she really inspired me when she said "For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country"...very gracefully inspiring..
Quote from: Olias on February 19, 2010, 03:59:41 PM
Does Michelle Obama seem testy to you? She has been called a gorilla, a monkey, an ape, vilified for her big butt, and made fun of for having buck teeth.
Yet she maintains a grace that is inspiring.
Next .................................
On national TV every day and on the news constantly by reporters plus having her daughters ridiculed and made the butt of tasteless jokes? There is a slight difference between jokes and downright tasteless and crude. Clinton made the Presidents children off limits remember. Palin handles the jokes and attacks on herself well it's the ones about her kids and family that she gets upset over as any mother would.
Quote from: Olias on February 19, 2010, 03:59:41 PM
Does Michelle Obama seem testy to you? She has been called a gorilla, a monkey, an ape, vilified for her big butt, and made fun of for having buck teeth.
Yet she maintains a grace that is inspiring.
Next .................................
:yeah: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Her position and actions (she excoriates a democrat for a remark made in private, but gives her conservative republican buddy a pass for a public remark) suggest she is using just about anything to create a "fan base."
I am beginning to think she is in the same league with Coulter -- an attention whore who will say anything to try to sell books and become a media creation -- which is why she quit as governor in the first place.
Being governor was getting haaaaarrrrrrd and starting to catch up with her stupidity. She had to quit after she crapped in her nest, and she had to find a way to make money. Then, of course, she wrote a book and found that they didn't sell as well as she had hoped, so she bought bunches of them herself from other people's money. Fox, of course, jumped right up to capitalize on her 15 minutes of fame (it certainly wasn't her erudition they were seeking), and it gave her a place to improve her image by "protecting" her son.
And people wonder why I laugh at her every time I hear her speak.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 19, 2010, 04:58:16 PM
yeah, she really inspired me when she said "For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country"...very gracefully inspiring..
So, since you slid right by the question, I guess you must not take issue with the insults, eh?
you laugh because you HATE republicans, not that it has anything to do what she actually does or say...If she was a democrat you and others on here would be in love with her....
you guys are the ones who bash limbaugh but have never listened to his show...you just parrot what the bloggers say..and form your opinions...
extremely biased...and have blinders on... :yes:
Quote from: me on February 19, 2010, 04:59:46 PM
On national TV every day and on the news constantly by reporters plus having her daughters ridiculed and made the butt of tasteless jokes? There is a slight difference between jokes and downright tasteless and crude. Clinton made the Presidents children off limits remember. Palin handles the jokes and attacks on herself well it's the ones about her kids and family that she gets upset over as any mother would.
And, again, I ask you, if she was so upset, why did she give Rush a pass?
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 19, 2010, 05:08:48 PM
So, since you slid right by the question, I guess you must not take issue with the insults, eh?
for the record, I think she is very attractive and is a very good first lady....even though she DID make an outrageous remark about being proud of America for the first time...
there is ALWAYS going to be knuckleheads on both side make ludicrious remarks about innocent by-stander in the heat of the battle....
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 19, 2010, 05:10:09 PM
you laugh because you HATE republicans, not that it has anything to do what she actually does or say...If she was a democrat you and others on here would be in love with her....
you guys are the ones who bash limbaugh but have never listened to his show...you just parrot what the bloggers say..and form your opinions...
extremely biased...and have blinders on... :yes:
Totally wrong again, Henry.
I occasionally listen to his show just because he is a master of spin and he is making a zillion dollars duping what he has termed "the great unwashed." He laughs all the way to the bank. Only once in a while does he totally believe his own bullshiat.
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 19, 2010, 05:10:27 PM
And, again, I ask you, if she was so upset, why did she give Rush a pass?
probably because she KNOW's the heart of Rush...(that would Part of the reason, I'm sure)....and like anyone on the left, who gave the pass for negro talk to harry reid, but blasted the republicans....it is heat of the battle BS....(I'm not condoning it...but that is the case)
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 19, 2010, 05:12:41 PM
for the record, I think she is very attractive and is a very good first lady....even though she DID make an outrageous remark about being proud of America for the first time...
there is ALWAYS going to be knuckleheads on both side make ludicrious remarks about innocent by-stander in the heat of the battle....
So a private remark is fair game for her, and worthy of attack, but a public insult is ok?
Oh, yeah.
POLITICS! Oh, yeah! That's right! Rahm is a democrat and Rush is a republican!
How crass and classless can you get?
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 19, 2010, 05:14:28 PM
Totally wrong again, Henry.
I occasionally listen to his show just because he is a master of spin and he is making a zillion dollars duping what he has termed "the great unwashed." He laughs all the way to the bank. Only once in a while does he totally believe his own bullshiat.
you have NO clue to Limbaugh..you hate him and your mind is made up.....JUST as I do not like Obama....I obviously am not clued in as those of you on the left are....but the difference is....I'm on the right channel :razz: ;D
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 19, 2010, 05:10:27 PM
And, again, I ask you, if she was so upset, why did she give Rush a pass?
I did not hear his comment or her explanation on giving him a pass but I'd bet it had something to do with the context of how it was done or how the word was used.
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 19, 2010, 05:18:48 PM
How crass and classless can you get?
YOU are just as guilty as YOU make ME out to be...!.. ;D
The "crass and classless" remark was meant for Palin, not you.
I say that because she sought out a fairly obscure private remark to base her case on, while ignoring public remarks by her buddy.
That is major "OOOOOPS" crap no matter how you cut it.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 19, 2010, 05:19:22 PM
you have NO clue to Limbaugh..you hate him and your mind is made up.....J
I really can't believe you just called FTW a liar.
Quote from: me on February 19, 2010, 05:19:43 PM
I did not hear his comment or her explanation on giving him a pass but I'd bet it had something to do with the context of how it was done or how the word was used.
Did you just give him and her a pass based on some vague reason without even researching to see what the sequence of events was?
You see, good science doesn't buy that kind of conclusion without research. Schlock science has inadequate research to reach erroneous conclusions. Kind of like creationism and intelligent design.
Look it up. (The sequence of events was what I meant; although a deep study of the other subjects and evolution wouldn't hurt.)
Quote from: Olias on February 19, 2010, 05:26:57 PM
I really can't believe you just called FTW a liar.
I truly don't believe Henry realized what he said.
I'll give him a pass.
:biggrin: :wink:
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 19, 2010, 05:18:48 PM
So a private remark is fair game for her, and worthy of attack, but a public insult is ok?
Oh, yeah.
POLITICS! Oh, yeah! That's right! Rahm is a democrat and Rush is a republican!
How crass and classless can you get?
That "private" remark was given in a speech to an audience and on camera so I'd hardly think it fits the true private label.
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 19, 2010, 05:28:34 PM
Did you just give him and her a pass based on some vague reason without even researching to see what the sequence of events was?
You see, good science doesn't buy that kind of conclusion without research. Schlock science has inadequate research to reach erroneous conclusions. Kind of like creationism and intelligent design.
Look it up. (The sequence of events was what I meant; although a deep study of the other subjects and evolution wouldn't hurt.)
No I am saying I can't comment on why she gave Rush a pass and got upset about the other remark. I do believe that comment about Rush and being given a pass was a throw in because we had been talking about her getting upset over that idiot show.
February 18, 2010, 6:48 pm
'Family Guy' Voice Actor Says Palin 'Does Not Have a Sense of Humor'
By DAVE ITZKOFF
Andrea Fay FriedmanAndrea Fay Friedman, who has Down syndrome, was a voice actor in a recent episode of "Family Guy" criticized by Sarah Palin.
Since it was shown on Sunday, an episode of the Fox animated comedy "Family Guy" has drawn the repeated condemnation of Sarah Palin, the former Republican governor of Alaska and 2008 vice-presidential nominee.
In the episode, the teenage character Chris dates a girl named Ellen, who has Down syndrome, and who tells him over dinner that her mother is "the former governor of Alaska." Ms. Palin, whose son Trig also has Down syndrome, has said that the "Family Guy" show "really isn't funny" and was the work of "cruel, cold-hearted people." Ms. Palin's daughter Bristol has written that the "Family Guy" writers were "mocking my brother and my family," and called them "heartless jerks."
One person who supports the "Family Guy" staff is Andrea Fay Friedman, the 39-year-old actor and public speaker who played Ellen in that episode. Like the character, Ms. Friedman also has Down syndrome.
In an e-mail message sent on Thursday to The New York Times, Ms. Friedman wrote:
I guess former Governor Palin does not have a sense of humor. I thought the line "I am the daughter of the former governor of Alaska" was very funny. I think the word is "sarcasm."
In my family we think laughing is good. My parents raised me to have a sense of humor and to live a normal life.
Quote from: kimmi on February 19, 2010, 05:47:20 PM
February 18, 2010, 6:48 pm
'Family Guy' Voice Actor Says Palin 'Does Not Have a Sense of Humor'
By DAVE ITZKOFF
Andrea Fay FriedmanAndrea Fay Friedman, who has Down syndrome, was a voice actor in a recent episode of "Family Guy" criticized by Sarah Palin.
Since it was shown on Sunday, an episode of the Fox animated comedy "Family Guy" has drawn the repeated condemnation of Sarah Palin, the former Republican governor of Alaska and 2008 vice-presidential nominee.
In the episode, the teenage character Chris dates a girl named Ellen, who has Down syndrome, and who tells him over dinner that her mother is "the former governor of Alaska." Ms. Palin, whose son Trig also has Down syndrome, has said that the "Family Guy" show "really isn't funny" and was the work of "cruel, cold-hearted people." Ms. Palin's daughter Bristol has written that the "Family Guy" writers were "mocking my brother and my family," and called them "heartless jerks."
One person who supports the "Family Guy" staff is Andrea Fay Friedman, the 39-year-old actor and public speaker who played Ellen in that episode. Like the character, Ms. Friedman also has Down syndrome.
In an e-mail message sent on Thursday to The New York Times, Ms. Friedman wrote:
I guess former Governor Palin does not have a sense of humor. I thought the line "I am the daughter of the former governor of Alaska" was very funny. I think the word is "sarcasm."
In my family we think laughing is good. My parents raised me to have a sense of humor and to live a normal life.
Thanks, Kimmi.
I appreciate the info, but "me" should have searched it, which is the point I was making that was totally misunderstood: the continual assumptions about what "must have been" instead of taking the time to verify.
That's why I don't bother to get involved in these discussions very often.
I absolutely, positively REFUSE to do the research for someone else.
I do too much of that elsewhere.
If they can't keep up, tough.
Quote from: me on February 19, 2010, 05:46:10 PM
No I am saying I can't comment on why she gave Rush a pass and got upset about the other remark. I do believe that comment about Rush and being given a pass was a throw in because we had been talking about her getting upset over that idiot show.
I just am too stupid to understand what you mean abut the "throw in."
Who threw what in?
Are you saying that whoever threw whatever in had no relevance to the thread or the context of the thread or the "idiot show" or the idiot Rush, or the idiot pass, or the idiot getting upset, or am I the idiot because I can't follow what comment was made about Rush?
Anyway, it probably won't matter, because I won't be able to follow the explanation, so it is useless, due to my being a liar and stupid and hating Palin and Limbaugh and......................
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 19, 2010, 06:14:25 PM
. . .
Anyway, it probably won't matter, because I won't be able to follow the explanation, so it is useless, due to my being a liar and stupid and hating Palin and Limbaugh and......................
Don't paint yourself with their brush loaded with the broad-strokes of ignorance, that they leave just laying anywhere. They're trying to paint us all with it and failing miserably. . .
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 19, 2010, 05:28:34 PM
Did you just give him and her a pass based on some vague reason without even researching to see what the sequence of events was?
Yup, she did. She's basing all her judgments on WHO says it, not WHAT is said, remember?
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 19, 2010, 06:07:30 PM
Thanks, Kimmi.
I appreciate the info, but "me" should have searched it, which is the point I was making that was totally misunderstood: the continual assumptions about what "must have been" instead of taking the time to verify.
That's why I don't bother to get involved in these discussions very often.
I absolutely, positively REFUSE to do the research for someone else.
I do too much of that elsewhere.
If they can't keep up, tough.
I read the statement at the first of the thread but isn't the thing with Rush a separate deal that has nothing to do with the show and what was being discussed about Palin's reaction to it? And the show is an idiot show any way you slice it and I have no clue why anyone would think it's even remotely funny and I thought that from day one so it wasn't a recent opinion.
Quote from: me on February 19, 2010, 07:14:07 PM
I read the statement at the first of the thread but isn't the thing with Rush a separate deal that has nothing to do with the show and what was being discussed about Palin's reaction to it? And the show is an idiot show any way you slice it and I have no clue why anyone would think it's even remotely funny and I thought that from day one so it wasn't a recent opinion.
And weren't all those situations connected because of the use of the word "retarded"?
And didn't Palin bring up the whole discussion herself?
And isn't the title of this thread generally about her?
So whatever is "thrown in" is relevant, isn't it?
And now I'm tired, 'cuz my head hurts, 'cuz I've been trying to think too much.
Which I shouldn't.
My head hurts too. They made me miss my cookies and milk, AND my nap time! :icon_evil:
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 19, 2010, 07:26:15 PM
And weren't all those situations connected because of the use of the word "retarded"?
And didn't Palin bring up the whole discussion herself?
And isn't the title of this thread generally about her?
So whatever is "thrown in" is relevant, isn't it?
And now I'm tired, 'cuz my head hurts, 'cuz I've been trying to think too much.
Which I shouldn't.
And since I didn't hear Rush's comment or her reason for excusing it nor did I hear the one that was made that she didn't excuse wouldn't it follow that I couldn't comment on that part of the conversation and that I was just commenting on the show and why she didn't take to that too well since I have heard other things which were said about her and her family?
Next move might be to research the whole enchilada before taking a bite.
Or, if that's too much, ask.
Someone might be willing to fill you in.
'Course that would mean trusting some arrogant liar.
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 19, 2010, 07:54:33 PM
Next move might be to research the whole enchilada before taking a bite.
Or, if that's too much, ask.
Someone might be willing to fill you in.
'Course that would mean trusting some arrogant liar.
Ya know I think, since I did hear a clip of the show in question, I could comment on that part and since I had heard the many other things that have been said and jokes and put downs about her and her family I can pretty well comment on that part and voice an opinion about why she might have been so upset about the show. Did I not say I cannot comment on the Rush part of it when that was brought up?
Quote from: me on February 19, 2010, 07:49:17 PM
And since I didn't hear Rush's comment or her reason for excusing it nor did I hear the one that was made that she didn't excuse wouldn't it follow that I couldn't comment on that part of the conversation and that I was just commenting on the show and why she didn't take to that too well since I have heard other things which were said about her and her family?
Even before Kimmi brought it up Olias posted about it here:
Quote from: Olias on February 18, 2010, 02:18:18 PM
Another example of said behavior ...
"In March, she came roaring out when President Obama joked on late night TV that his bowling skills were like the Special Olympics.
Palin wasn't wrong about the inappropriateness of the remark, for which the president apologized to the Special Olympics before the segment aired. But were her objections primarily those of a wounded mother -- or those of a heat-seeking politician? Will we be hearing from Palin every time someone uses the R-word or makes a lame joke?
Well, no, not every time. When Rush Limbaugh used "retard," suggesting a "retard summit" at the White House, it was "satirical," Palin recently explained to her Fox News colleague, Chris Wallace. When Emanuel used it, it was name-calling. It isn't clear whether Palin considered Rush's memorable mimicry of Michael J. Fox's "fake" Parkinson's disease symptoms another demonstration of satire or mere hideous cruelty.
Given that Palin obviously made an excuse for Limbaugh, whose stab at humor was nothing resembling satire, means that her "teachable moment" via Emanuel was really using her child as a political tool."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/12/AR2010021204006_2.html?sid=ST2010021202633 (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/12/AR2010021204006_2.html?sid=ST2010021202633)
And since it was the last post on the page, and I had something to add to it, I quoted it at the top of the very next page. . . but you had tone lock on the IQ argument.
Quote from: Palehorse on February 11, 2010, 03:17:48 PM
:biggrin: Apparently she's even dumber than most of us thought:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/02/11/roland.martin.palin/index.html?hpt=T2 (http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/02/11/roland.martin.palin/index.html?hpt=T2)
And I posted about this very same thing way back on page 15!
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(CNN) -- Sarah Palin's most ardent supporters in "real America" love to suggest that those of us who don't buy into her shtick fail to grasp why they love her, citing her realness, plain-spokenness and whatever else they can conjure up.
Folks, nice try, but as a native Texan, I've seen many politicians and wannabes over the years who had charm, wit, charisma and a twinkle in their eye.
Anyone who has listened to the best football coaches the Lone Star State has to offer will tell you that they can persuade a mother and father to send their boy to hell to fetch a glass of ice water and bring him home a better man. They could teach a politician or two how to connect with average Americans.
You want a media darling politician with substance? Try the late Gov. Ann Richards, a woman who could cut you deep and beam ear-to-ear with her motherly smile. But unlike Palin, she had a host of strong ideas in her head that actually made sense and appealed to a cross-section of folks.
So [Rahm] Emanuel and [Rush] Limbaugh used the word 'retard'... but only Rahm was wrong?
--Roland Martin, CNN political analyst
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Former Rep. Charlie Wilson, who died this week, was a smooth-talking Texan who loved to party hard. But when it came to politics, he knew how to get things done. The media loved him because he could sit with you and enjoy a beer over barbecue, give them a hilarious quote or two, and explain foreign policy better than Henry Kissinger.
Why haven't I cottoned to Palin? Because she portrays herself as a straight-talking politician who wants to lead a movement in the "Lower 48th" -- but is nothing more than a political celebrity willing to cash every check she can grab.
What truly exposed her for me? It was the ridiculous way she reacted in opposing ways last week to two political heavyweights who used the word "retard."
When it was reported that President Obama's chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, told a group of liberals that they were "f-----g retards" for threatening to run ads against fellow Democrats who weren't jumping on the health care reform bandwagon, Palin demanded his resignation.
As the mother of a child with Down syndrome, Palin has often used her bully pulpit to demand respect for the mentally challenged. Nothing wrong with that. It is an issue that is close to her heart, and she should be a fierce advocate for them.
Yet when one of her biggest supporters, conservative radio talk-show host Rush Limbaugh, also castigated liberals by calling them "retards," Palin provided him cover, even trying to explain away his comments.
In an interview with Fox News Channel's Chris Wallace, she said Limbaugh was using satire, while Emanuel was blasting those who disagree with him. But anyone who can read or listen could hear Limbaugh calling folks he disagrees with the same. Palin even went further, agreeing with Limbaugh that liberals are "kooks."
So Emanuel and Limbaugh used the word "retard" to describe folks they disagree with, but only Rahm was wrong? Yep, that's how it is in Palin's world. The advocate for the mentally challenged was quick to pounce on someone she disagrees with politically but defended her patron saint, Rush.
Sarah, when you hold yourself up as a fierce protector of the mentally challenged, politics shouldn't enter into the equation. Either you criticize everyone who uses a word that you consider a slur, or you come across as a crass politician who is afraid to offend your chief booster.
Maybe you ought to listen to your spokeswoman, Meghan Stapleton, who thought you cared about the mentally challenged when she sent this e-mail to HotAir.com about Limbaugh's comment: "Gov. Palin believes crude and demeaning name-calling at the expense of others is disrespectful."
But knowing that wouldn't sit well with Rush, you backed off and gave him cover.
If you were true to your cause, you would have demanded an on-air apology from Limbaugh and scolded him for using the word. Instead, you showed your true colors.
Sarah, I haven't bought into your fake "I'm-a-real-American" persona. You slam the president for using teleprompters, but write crib notes on your hand to remember basic beliefs that should be easy to regurgitate.
You decry the "lamestream" media, but you bask in its glory and have joined its payroll as a Fox News contributor, even having the network build a studio in your home. Talk about media elite.
You give a speech riddled with falsehoods about the president and national security, and then try to shrug them off as the "lamestream" media attacking you.
You don't fool me, even as your legion of fans considers you the second coming of President Reagan. You quit on the people who elected you to become a political celebrity, which your presidential running mate blasted then-Sen. Barack Obama for doing.
You had the opportunity to show everyone that you're willing to take on anyone who crosses the line against those who are mentally challenged, and you failed.
Please, make as much money as you can. Paraphrasing comedian Martin Lawrence, ride this train until the wheels fall off. But please, cut the crap. You're a crass politician with no true conviction. Your actions have shown that.
Quote from: me on February 19, 2010, 08:08:55 PM
Ya know I think, since I did hear a clip of the show in question, I could comment on that part and since I had heard the many other things that have been said and jokes and put downs about her and her family I can pretty well comment on that part and voice an opinion about why she might have been so upset about the show. Did I not say I cannot comment on the Rush part of it when that was brought up?
The whole enchilada was on the table and all the incidents were intertwined......and then you wanted to unring the bell.
They were intertwined because of the compare/contrast argument.
It is intellectual dishonesty to select a small part of a larger topic and defend it like a terrier while professing ignorance of the rest of the topic.
That's exactly the same dishonesty bush used when he proclaimed "Mission Accomplished." He was able to declare victory where there was none. Like saying "We won the game" at the end of the first quarter of a football game.
Quote from: Palehorse on February 19, 2010, 08:10:18 PM
Even before Kimmi brought it up Olias posted about it here:
And since it was the last post on the page, and I had something to add to it, I quoted it at the top of the very next page. . . but you had tone lock on the IQ argument.
:groan: Oh ya, she said Rush's comment was about a thing not a person or group of people which was different. I do remember that now and I kind of understand where she was coming from on that but still can't really judge it since I didn't hear the comment to know if he was calling the summit retarded or the people who attended it and if he made the comment about the attendees he was wrong to have done so and no, she shouldn't have given him a pass but if it was the summit itself he was referring to that is different. Now Obama was saying that about a group of people because I did hear that comment and thought it was rather crude.
Obama?
What the he!! are you talking about?
Obama didn't make the comment.
Ahhhhhhh......I'm going to bed and watch "Troy."
Yawn.
All Obama did was rate his bowling ability as being within the special olympics capacity. . . crude, perhaps, but not necessarily a put down to anyone but himself. But Palin went thermo nuclear over it.
"When Rahm Emanuel told a bunch of liberals they were "fucking retards" for threatening to run ads against fellow Democrats who weren't jumping on the health care reform bandwagon, Palin demanded his resignation."
"Yet when one of her biggest supporters, conservative radio talk-show host Rush Limbaugh, also castigated liberals by calling them "retards," Palin provided him cover, even trying to explain away his comments."
Palin even went further, agreeing with Limbaugh that liberals are "kooks."
Now, bring in the family guy incident and you can see how hypocritical and crass this woman is. She will stoop to anything to obtain press time for herself. I think she may very well be retarded herself!
Quote from: Palehorse on February 19, 2010, 08:48:58 PM
All Obama did was rate his bowling ability as being within the special olympics capacity. . . crude, perhaps, but not necessarily a put down to anyone but himself. But Palin went thermo nuclear over it.
"When Rahm Emanuel told a bunch of liberals they were "fucking retards" for threatening to run ads against fellow Democrats who weren't jumping on the health care reform bandwagon, Palin demanded his resignation."
"Yet when one of her biggest supporters, conservative radio talk-show host Rush Limbaugh, also castigated liberals by calling them "retards," Palin provided him cover, even trying to explain away his comments."
Palin even went further, agreeing with Limbaugh that liberals are "kooks."
Now, bring in the family guy incident and you can see how hypocritical and crass this woman is. She will stoop to anything to obtain press time for herself. I think she may very well be retarded herself!
Ya know, all this politically correct stuff is just plain crazy if you really think about it. A comment like any of these that was made 20yrs ago was just that, a comment, now it's almost a federal offense and here we are all caught up in it like a bunch of biting sows, no offense to sows intended. If you really stop and think about it do you realize how ridiculous this is on all parts including mine? Yes, I'm including Sarah Palin in this too because it is all just a bunch of BS.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6919701682068709550# (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6919701682068709550#)
You can watch the POTUS's comments on the Jay Leno show at the link above. He was joking, clearly, and making fun of himself and not anyone or anything else. CLEARLY.
Quote from: Palehorse on February 19, 2010, 09:03:15 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6919701682068709550# (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6919701682068709550#)
You can watch the POTUS's comments on the Jay Leno show at the link above. He was joking, clearly, and making fun of himself and not anyone or anything else. CLEARLY.
I had watched a video of his remark and I do realize he was making fun of his capabilities as a bowler which, like I stated, would not even have been an issue 20yrs ago but now it has become a big deal for anyone to say not only Obama. I guess I really need to go back maybe even 25yrs because 20yrs ago it was a no no to say walk in closet when advertising a house because it might insult someone who couldn't walk even though it was describing a large closet and nothing more. The whole thing is BS and detracts from what really matters and both sides do it. Do you realize if one were to spend as much time on real issues instead of this tripe something might just get figured out?
Quote from: me on February 19, 2010, 08:35:35 PM
:groan: Oh ya, she said Rush's comment was about a thing not a person or group of people which was different. I do remember that now and I kind of understand where she was coming from on that but still can't really judge it since I didn't hear the comment to know if he was calling the summit retarded or the people who attended it and if he made the comment about the attendees he was wrong to have done so and no, she shouldn't have given him a pass but if it was the summit itself he was referring to that is different. Now Obama was saying that about a group of people because I did hear that comment and thought it was rather crude.
Hold up! Didn't rush call Liberals retarded and Obama talk about his bowling skill which is a thing retarded? I think you have that backwards ME.
Quote from: kimmi on February 19, 2010, 10:50:14 PM
Hold up! Didn't rush call Liberals retarded and Obama talk about his bowling skill which is a thing retarded? I think you have that backwards ME.
Oopsi, read what I said again. I said I didn't hear Rush's comment and if he made it about the summit being retarded it was about a thing and if he made it about the attendees it was wrong and he shouldn't have been given a pass. And then read the post right above yours.
QuoteQuote from: me on Today at 08:35:35 PM
:groan: Oh ya, she said Rush's comment was about a thing not a person or group of people which was different. I do remember that now and I kind of understand where she was coming from on that but still can't really judge it since I didn't hear the comment to know if he was calling the summit retarded or the people who attended it and if he made the comment about the attendees he was wrong to have done so and no, she shouldn't have given him a pass but if it was the summit itself he was referring to that is different. Now Obama was saying that about a group of people because I did hear that comment and thought it was rather crude.
I think this discussion is retarded :spooked: :biggrin:
(Think Palin will tap into the Zone and defend her son now? ;D I personally think that she's using her son's disability as a platform to get attention for herself as evidenced by the way she picks and chooses who offends her).
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 20, 2010, 12:59:33 PM
I think this discussion is retarded :spooked: :biggrin:
(Think Palin will tap into the Zone and defend her son now? ;D I personally think that she's using her son's disability as a platform to get attention for herself as evidenced by the way she picks and chooses who offends her).
:biggrin: Indeed!
She's a retarded attention whore! :biggrin:
Quote from: me on February 19, 2010, 04:59:46 PM
On national TV every day and on the news constantly by reporters plus having her daughters ridiculed and made the butt of tasteless jokes?
Wouldn't happen if her daughter wasn't a cum guzzling gutter slut.
Quote from: Palehorse on February 20, 2010, 01:14:16 PM
:biggrin: Indeed!
She's a retarded attention whore! :biggrin:
well she sure has captivated YOUR guy's attention... :biggrin:
Who's his guy?
right?.. :razz: ...as if you "guys" didn't know?...she has made a thirty page thread here, because of YOU
guys.... :yes: :biggrin:
Are you saying she intended to type YOU guys' instead of YOUR guy's? Very different concepts: "you guys' " meaning the collective group; "your guy's" meaning a candidate, or official, or flagbearer for a particular position PH endorses.
No wonder nobody can figure out what the two of you are talking about. Do we need to get a translator in here?
Quote from: LOsborne on February 21, 2010, 11:14:11 AM
. . .
No wonder nobody can figure out what the two of you are talking about. Do we need to get a translator in here?
Huh. Who would have thought! :biggrin:
Apparently there is an opening for an interpreter on the forum! :smile:
This is the Troll, I won't say a word about Sara. But I want you to go the YouTube and type in. (Sara palin's crazy church - documentary - be amazed) and (Sara Mania, Sara Palin's greatest hits). I state my case. Thank you.
The Troll.
Quote from: The Troll on March 20, 2010, 08:37:17 PM
This is the Troll, I won't say a word about Sara. But I want you to go the YouTube and type in. (Sara palin's crazy church - documentary - be amazed) and (Sara Mania, Sara Palin's greatest hits). I state my case. Thank you.
The Troll.
It really is good to know that, as President, she will be devoid of any influence by witches. :angel:
And the attention whore and violence inciter is at it yet again. . .
(PEOPLE.com) -- Good news for those who can't get enough of Saran Palin: The former Alaska governor -- who's now a Fox News commentator, best-selling memoirist and Republican campaign machine -- has a deal in the bag with the Discovery Channel, a source at the network confirmed to PEOPLE.
According to everyone from Variety to The Washington Post, the series "Sarah Palin's Alaska" has been picked up for a reported $1 million-plus per episode.
Variety says Palin's project with reality TV rainmaker Mark Burnett "will center on interesting characters, traditions and attractions in the 49th state -- with the ex-VP candidate as a guide."
A spokesman for Palin referred questions to Burnett's office, which did not return requests for comment. Neither did a Discovery spokesperson.
Oh my, how dare she get a job in the public eye. How shameful. :eek:
It is a shame, because there are idiots out there who think that she's intellectually representative of my gender. She's an idiot and I'm totally ashamed of her.
Quote from: me on March 24, 2010, 09:19:50 PM
Oh my, how dare she get another job in the public eye. How shameful. :eek:
FIFY.
I do see a bit of irony in the fact she quit her job as Governor and now is trying to extol the virtues of Alaskan life. . . :deadhorse:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on March 24, 2010, 09:30:33 PM
It is a shame, because there are idiots out there who think that she's intellectually representative of my gender. She's an idiot and I'm totally ashamed of her.
That idiot would be able to feed her family if push came to shove and she couldn't run to the local burger doodle or grocery store to get food. I'd damn sure listen to her tell how to do that or tell about wild life or plant life on the Discovery channel than Pelosi or Boxer....Hell even Hillary for that matter. Talk about idiots..... :rolleyes: Now they could tell you about the latest fashions or how which hair dresser and maybe Hillary could tell you how to put a slice of bread into a toaster but any further than that it ain't gonna happen. I can just see one of them even cooking let alone hunting or gutting a deer or moose.
Yeah, I'd love to see her shoulder deep in moose viscera! :rolleyes: Bet that has never happened and never will. She's the shoot it and let somebody else dress it type if ever there was one. . . :rolleyes: (If she's ever shot anything above a .22 I'd be amazed. If she shot anything larger with any kind of accuracy I'd be dumbfounded).
Quote from: me on March 24, 2010, 10:00:27 PM
That idiot would be able to feed her family if push came to shove and she couldn't run to the local burger doodle or grocery store to get food. I'd damn sure listen to her tell how to do that or tell about wild life or plant life on the Discovery channel than Pelosi or Boxer....Hell even Hillary for that matter. Talk about idiots..... :rolleyes: Now they could tell you about the latest fashions or how which hair dresser and maybe Hillary could tell you how to put a slice of bread into a toaster but any further than that it ain't gonna happen. I can just see one of them even cooking let alone hunting or gutting a deer or moose.
I'm sure you thought you were defending her intellect, but you really didn't.
(http://www.popcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/sarah-palin-fish.jpg)
This picture clearly illustrates what I'm talking about here. Anyone, and I mean anyone, who fishes and knows what they are doing, knows you do not under any circumstance hold a fish as powerful as a salmon or lake trout, the way she's holding the fish in this picture. You get a firm grasp on the gill plate and jaw closest to you to hold the fish for a picture.
That way if the fish tries to swim away while you are holding it, all you have to do is hold it away from you with the hand/arm holding the gill plate. Doesn't hurt the fish and the fish can't slam you with a swipe of its tail. And you don't drop it back into the lake or onto the ground either.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on March 24, 2010, 10:07:25 PM
I'm sure you thought you were defending her intellect, but you really didn't.
I'm sure you think you're succeeding in making me believe she's an idiot but you're not. From what I've seen out of Pelosi and some of the others they weren't as knowledgeable about things at Palin's age as Palin is. You are all listening to what you're told like good little sheeple though I'll give ya that. What frosts me about all this Palin bashing is look how brilliant that poor excuse for a vice president is we have and no one is calling him an idiot. I mean face it, he can't open his mouth with out saying something stupid.
I just can't figure out why all the bashing of someone who is no threat and why keep harping on it. Why is it so much more important than any issues going on? Where exactly does she come into play in all that is going on right now?
Quote from: Palehorse on March 24, 2010, 10:45:37 PM
(http://www.popcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/sarah-palin-fish.jpg)
This picture clearly illustrates what I'm talking about here. Anyone, and I mean anyone, who fishes and knows what they are doing, knows you do not under any circumstance hold a fish as powerful as a salmon or lake trout, the way she's holding the fish in this picture. You get a firm grasp on the gill plate and jaw closest to you to hold the fish for a picture.
That way if the fish tries to swim away while you are holding it, all you have to do is hold it away from you with the hand/arm holding the gill plate. Doesn't hurt the fish and the fish can't slam you with a swipe of its tail. And you don't drop it back into the lake or onto the ground either.
Did it ever occur to you the fish may already be dead? She may have had the picture shot just before she iced it.
Quote from: me on March 24, 2010, 10:55:23 PM
Did it ever occur to you the fish may already be dead? She may have had the picture shot just before she iced it.
She seems to be glaring at Russia, from there, or pissing herself in those waders.
Quote from: me on March 24, 2010, 10:55:23 PM
Did it ever occur to you the fish may already be dead? She may have had the picture shot just before she iced it.
It's not dead. . . you can see the stream coming out of the vent hole of the fish; a reflex reaction to stress. If it were a female she'd be spewing roe, but its not. . .
If it were caught "on the water" it would have been iced upon capture, being tossed straight into the box after de-hooking.
I fished fresh water salmon my entire life as a lad, both from shore and aboard watercraft in Lake Michigan and on it. I even fished them in the St Joe in Indiana and in Michigan. And once on the Kenai River in Alaska. One constant amongst all of the guides, friends, and captains I fished along side was the way they held the fish.
Alaska is thick with salmon and anyone who has fished for them any amount of time will instinctively hold the fish the way I previously described; dead or alive. I've got dozens of picture to prove it too. . .
You ought to schedule a spring charter out of Waukegan Illinois and spend a half day fishing chinook and coho salmon. By the end of that trip you'll have learned two things for sure; how powerful a salmon is and the proper way to hold one.
Ok she's an idiot....I give up....seems she has a finger hooked into the gill pretty good and a rather tight grip on the tail but hey, what do I know. I guess the fish probably jumped out of her hands right after it slapped her with it's powerful tail and she didn't do that again. Do you realize how petty you guy's who are continually bashing her sound?
The whole point is she is a liar and attention whore. I just provided proof to validate my previous statement, made in rebuttal to :
Quote from: me on March 24, 2010, 10:00:27 PM
That idiot would be able to feed her family if push came to shove and she couldn't run to the local burger doodle or grocery store to get food. I'd damn sure listen to her tell how to do that or tell about wild life or plant life on the Discovery channel than Pelosi or Boxer....Hell even Hillary for that matter. Talk about idiots..... :rolleyes: Now they could tell you about the latest fashions or how which hair dresser and maybe Hillary could tell you how to put a slice of bread into a toaster but any further than that it ain't gonna happen. I can just see one of them even cooking let alone hunting or gutting a deer or moose.
The only feeding of her family she's going to do is fetching the meat or fish from the freezer and maybe cooking it. She damned sure isn't going to go out and bag a caribou or moose and field dress it, butcher it, and prepare it. You count on her to be able to do that and you'll be taking the long dirt nap in short order! That whole story is nothing but just that, a story she uses to present a persona she thinks will get her more attention.
What ever :rolleyes:
Me, believe or not, I wasn't trying to convince you of anything. I couldn't care less if you think she's stupid or not.
I'm smart enough to know that if her words and actions aren't enough to convince you, then you're a lost cause, because you don't want to see.
For the record, this isn't about politics at all. It's a feminist issue for me. She very publically represents my gender and I don't like her example. So, she hunts...I could respect that IF she had ever expressed fact based knowledge of ANYthing.
Ah so you're a feminist...that 'splains things.
I doubt it. If you know as much about feminism as you do everything else, then I'm sure You don't understand at all. :biggrin:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on March 25, 2010, 02:11:36 PM
I doubt it. If you know as much about feminism as you do everything else, then I'm sure You don't understand at all. :biggrin:
I know enough about it to know I'm not one and don't intend to be.
:meow: :swish: :milk:
*Hisss-growwwwwl-hisss*
Cat Fight!
You say that with such pride. I guess what they say is true then, ignorance IS bliss.
Although I do find it sad that you don't know enough about it to want to be.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on March 25, 2010, 10:27:37 AM
Me, believe or not, I wasn't trying to convince you of anything. I couldn't care less if you think she's stupid or not.
I'm smart enough to know that if her words and actions aren't enough to convince you, then you're a lost cause, because you don't want to see.
For the record, this isn't about politics at all. It's a feminist issue for me. She very publically represents my gender and I don't like her example. So, she hunts...I could respect that IF she had ever expressed fact based knowledge of ANYthing.
Exactly what does she do except support pro life causes and abstinace that you consider anti feminist?
Anne - that's enough. The desire to take choices away from women and undereducate regarding safe sex makes her a poor role model for our future women. She's SO unaware, ill-informed or just plain stupid that she told Katie Couric, in an interview, that gender equality has been achieved...I think she phrased it something like all of "feminism work" being complete. O'rly? :rolleyes:
Ladies, Ladies, Ladies, this is The Troll the peace keeper. :rolleyes: ;) I want you to do one thing. Got to YouTube and type in Sara Palin - Wasilla has kooky prophesy sessions. Watch it, then go and look at some of the other YouTubes and see where Sara is coming from. Spooky :icon_twisted: :icon_evil:
If this doesn't clear your mind, nothing will. :yes:
The Troll.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on March 25, 2010, 02:45:26 PM
You say that with such pride. I guess what they say is true then, ignorance IS bliss.
Although I do find it sad that you don't know enough about it to want to be.
Most "feminists" I have had the misfortune to encounter have been egotistical, self serving, man hating, domineering, hateful women. I'm not saying you are but those I've ran across have been. They don't want to be equal to the male but want to dominate him. They also want things to be gender neutral, person hole covers, chairperson, mail carrier, and well, you get the idea. Ya, equal pay for equal work and all that stuff is fine but for a woman to demand they be allowed into a men only school or club.....get serious. IMO feminists started infringing on men's rights and wanted/demanded to do men's jobs even though some of the jobs entailed heavy lifting, which they couldn't do but expected the men to help them, and wanted to invade men only clubs, sports, and schools. Oops, I guess I started of on another rage didn't I. I'll quit here but that is an example of the feminists I have had the misfortune to encounter.
Quote from: me on March 25, 2010, 05:01:08 PM
Most "feminists" I have had the misfortune to encounter have been egotistical, self serving, man hating, domineering, hateful women. I'm not saying you are but those I've ran across have been. They don't want to be equal to the male but want to dominate him. They also want things to be gender neutral, person hole covers, chairperson, mail carrier, and well, you get the idea. Ya, equal pay for equal work and all that stuff is fine but for a woman to demand they be allowed into a men only school or club.....get serious. IMO feminists started infringing on men's rights and wanted/demanded to do men's jobs even though some of the jobs entailed heavy lifting, which they couldn't do but expected the men to help them, and wanted to invade men only clubs, sports, and schools. Oops, I guess I started of on another rage didn't I. I'll quit here but that is an example of the feminists I have had the misfortune to encounter.
Out of respect for our forum friendship, I can't discuss this topic. Meaning, feminism, not the fact that Sarah Palin is stupid :biggrin:. Feminism is one of the subjects on my short-list that I'm very passionate about. I find that I can't discuss the topic with someone who really has no desire to understand what the theory of feminism is about and have some degree of respect for it, even if they don't totally agree or consider themselves feminists. As a matter of fact, I'm sure that to an extreme feminist, I'm a little to relaxed in my practice of the theory, but I do believe in it. Do I have any desire to go to a club designed for men? No, but how is having a gender only club or school any different from having a race only club or school? It's still a discriminitory practice. Would I be supportive of a woman who decided to challenge those boundaries? Yep. Would I? Maybe, it depends on the circumstances. I'm not the type to do something for spite, perhaps some people are, but I'd say that trait is genderless.
Anyway, I find that some people who discuss this topic tend to lean towards extreme examples and stereotypes and I get angry and not very nice, because of the importance of this. The old slogan "you've come a long way, baby" applies to our gender and I feel honest rage when people of my gender don't recognize that, respect it and make an effort to continue the work to take our gender even further. I also despise posers and Sarah Palin is a poser whether it be intentional or something conrived by the GOP. IMO These people only damage the advances that have been made.
So, for the record. I love men, especially men who are feminist. I don't think that women are better than men. I chide myself when I allow myself to objectify men, because that makes me a hypocrite (although I haven't found a man that minds ;D). I shave in all of the necessary areas and my face isn't one of them. I don't own a pair of "sensible shoes". I love being a mom. I hate stereotyping and gender-casting.
Having said that, I'll stop hijacking of the topic here. I would suggest that rather than forming an opinion based on a few examples, that you (meaning anyone) do some research and learn about feminism so that you fully understand the concept. Here's something to get you started.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Feminism
Damned well told, Sandy. Except for that "you've come a long way, baby." We still haven't come quite far enough, and I'm not a baby.
Quote from: LOsborne on March 25, 2010, 07:37:11 PM
Damned well told, Sandy. Except for that "you've come a long way, baby." We still haven't come quite far enough, and I'm not a baby.
:thumbsup:
Would someone out there, please clear this up for me.
There are more women the United States than men. The women control more money than men and they own all of the *****. What in hell do they have to bitch about? :rolleyes: :o ;D :smile:
The Troll :wink: :smile: :laugh: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on March 25, 2010, 06:54:41 PM
Out of respect for our forum friendship, I can't discuss this topic. Meaning, feminism, not the fact that Sarah Palin is stupid :biggrin:. Feminism is one of the subjects on my short-list that I'm very passionate about. I find that I can't discuss the topic with someone who really has no desire to understand what the theory of feminism is about and have some degree of respect for it, even if they don't totally agree or consider themselves feminists. As a matter of fact, I'm sure that to an extreme feminist, I'm a little to relaxed in my practice of the theory, but I do believe in it. Do I have any desire to go to a club designed for men? No, but how is having a gender only club or school any different from having a race only club or school? It's still a discriminitory practice. Would I be supportive of a woman who decided to challenge those boundaries? Yep. Would I? Maybe, it depends on the circumstances. I'm not the type to do something for spite, perhaps some people are, but I'd say that trait is genderless.
Anyway, I find that some people who discuss this topic tend to lean towards extreme examples and stereotypes and I get angry and not very nice, because of the importance of this. The old slogan "you've come a long way, baby" applies to our gender and I feel honest rage when people of my gender don't recognize that, respect it and make an effort to continue the work to take our gender even further. I also despise posers and Sarah Palin is a poser whether it be intentional or something conrived by the GOP. IMO These people only damage the advances that have been made.
So, for the record. I love men, especially men who are feminist. I don't think that women are better than men. I chide myself when I allow myself to objectify men, because that makes me a hypocrite (although I haven't found a man that minds ;D). I shave in all of the necessary areas and my face isn't one of them. I don't own a pair of "sensible shoes". I love being a mom. I hate stereotyping and gender-casting.
Having said that, I'll stop hijacking of the topic here. I would suggest that rather than forming an opinion based on a few examples, that you (meaning anyone) do some research and learn about feminism so that you fully understand the concept. Here's something to get you started.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Feminism
You go girl! Almost sounds like you know what your are talking about, for a woman. :eek:
(I hope you do realize that was a joke. I am well aware that women have to work twice as hard as a man, just to prove they are equal, but still don't get paid but 3/4 the salary. Sad. I still cringe when I see/hear the term; "you've come a long way baby". Makes me sick. However, there are plenty of us in the workforce that know better and we didn't need corporate sensitivity training to get there (usually a joke). It is called moral development and far too many are still on the lowest rung.)
ATTENTION, ATTENTION, ATTENTION!
Our dear Sara Palin has entered into a contract with the TLC Channel. (The Learning Channel???????) :yes: For 8 travelogues of Alaska. There has been some rumors that she will get 1 million dollars for each show. :o :o :yes:
That's not too bad for a governor who couldn't complete one term. Another thing, that Coho Salmon, that she was holding, has been dead for some time. Look at her right hand and how dry and wrinkled the skin on the fish is. Also how hard is it to shoot moose from a Piper Cub. Sara's song should be "Antlers in the treetop, by who goosed the moose." :laugh: :laugh:
The Troll :wink: :smile:
Quote from: The Troll on March 26, 2010, 05:02:44 PM
. . . Another thing, that Coho Salmon, that she was holding, has been dead for some time. Look at her right hand and how dry and wrinkled the skin on the fish is. . .
The Troll :wink: :smile:
Clearly it is of the ocean dwelling phase, and is a male, caught in the spring to early summer period. Care to explain the streaming vent hole if it is dead then? And don't say its water because if it were it would follow the path of gravity, which clearly it is not. . .
Quote from: Palehorse on March 26, 2010, 05:11:41 PM
Clearly it is of the ocean dwelling phase, and is a male, caught in the spring to early summer period. Care to explain the streaming vent hole if it is dead then? And don't say its water because if it were it would follow the path of gravity, which clearly it is not. . .
I got curious after you said she was holding the fish wrong and looked up a bunch of pic's last night and in all I found, which were several, the fish were being held in a similar manner. I was also sure to look at pic's of salmon too. Not disputing your word just was curious as to what you were meaning and was looking for the difference is all.
Quote from: me on March 26, 2010, 06:08:34 PM
I got curious after you said she was holding the fish wrong and looked up a bunch of pic's last night and in all I found, which were several, the fish were being held in a similar manner. I was also sure to look at pic's of salmon too. Not disputing your word just was curious as to what you were meaning and was looking for the difference is all.
They're out there and they are wrong. But don't take my word for it. Just grab one the same way when you have the chance. The fish will teach you. . . and should it be a 30+ pounder so will the resulting doctor bills.
Those holding these fish any other way severely underestimate the raw power of these fish, and over estimate their ability to control them using such holds.
BTW Troll: That "loose skin" you note in the anal fin area of the fish is almost assuredly due to two factors; 1. Deflation of the swim bladder internally within the fish, and 2. evacuation of the digestive tract waste. Both occur spontaneously when the fish is subjected to duress, such as being hooked in deeper water and fighting all the way to the surface.
Quote from: Palehorse on March 26, 2010, 06:23:28 PM
They're out there and they are wrong. But don't take my word for it. Just grab one the same way when you have the chance. The fish will teach you. . . and should it be a 30+ pounder so will the resulting doctor bills.
Those holding these fish any other way severely underestimate the raw power of these fish, and over estimate their ability to control them using such holds.
BTW Troll: That "loose skin" you note in the anal fin area of the fish is almost assuredly due to two factors; 1. Deflation of the swim bladder internally within the fish, and 2. evacuation of the digestive tract waste. Both occur spontaneously when the fish is subjected to duress, such as being hooked in deeper water and fighting all the way to the surface.
I have no clue either way and don't intend to find out....... :no: The only difference I did see was one of a guide, or at least he appeared to be a guide due to the uniform, and he was holding it similar but it was a larger one and he had his hand buried further into the gill was all.
(http://www.ottersite.btinternet.co.uk/images/fbones.JPG)
I'll clarify a little something here for you using the above diagram showing a typical fish skeleton.
See the bone structure forward of the pectoral fins (leading edge just in back of the gill plate in the above diagram).
In salmon this structure is very sharp and in the direct vicinity of the gill plates and rakers. In fact it is the surface upon which the gill plates rest. While holding a salmon as Palin is in the previous picture, her hand is directly in this area.
Should the fish spasm and shake its head (swim) while it is being held in this manner, that structure will cut your hands to the bone, and so can the gill plates. I've seen it happen to a lot of greenhorns who don't know any better and it is very painful and bloody to say the least. Most of the time it requires stitches to close too.
A salmon is among the most power freshwater species out there, and I have seen them snap 60 pound test mono like it was sewing thread at 30 pounds, and strip saltwater reels and rods at weights above that. One slap from that tail out of the water and you'll think a 250 pound ass kicker just punched you in the gut. A well placed slap from that tail will drop you and I don't care who you are.
You should spend an afternoon and early evening in Lincoln Park Lagoon in Chicago some October, and see what these fish can do to those who don't know any better. No joke. Right there by the boat houses you can watch it happen as they swim in for the spawn and the people on shore snag them using K mart rigs made for bluegills or other ill advised set ups. Every year these fish destroy thousands of dollars worth of equipment in nano seconds, and sometimes one of them gets lucky and lands one. Then the real show starts because when they pick them up for pictures somebody is going to get cut real bad, and it isn't going to be the salmon. . .
I'd say if that fish wasn't dead that I mentioned in that one pic there was a guy at risk of having a badly injured or missing hand from what that says. He had all four fingers in almost to the last knuckle.
Quote from: me on March 26, 2010, 07:20:08 PM
I'd say if that fish wasn't dead that I mentioned in that one pic there was a guy at risk of having a badly injured or missing hand from what that says. He had all four fingers in almost to the last knuckle.
Never underestimate the density of idiots within the population! :biggrin:
Quote from: Palehorse on March 26, 2010, 07:23:10 PM
Never underestimate the density of idiots within the population! :biggrin:
Lets just hope he wasn't really a guide.
Quote from: Palehorse on March 26, 2010, 06:23:28 PM
They're out there and they are wrong. But don't take my word for it. Just grab one the same way when you have the chance. The fish will teach you. . . and should it be a 30+ pounder so will the resulting doctor bills.
Palehorse, friends and I, for many years went to Michigan and snagged salmon. I have seen a lot of dead salmon and when you pick them up, I have seen sperm and eggs run out of them.
Like you said, they are powerful fish. I used light saltwater rod and reel with 40 pound test line. As you know that the Chinook salmon run bigger than the coho in Lake Michigan. The largest Chinook I ever caught was 28 pounds. That same fish, as I was landing her, she started flopping and was coming off my hand. Rather than loose her, I ran my thumb down in the corner of her mouth. I have the scars on my thumb from 25 years ago.
But that all went away and the fishermen, local business, tackle stores, Motels and restaurants all lost out, when a large corporation bought the politicians off. Stopped the snagging and set up canneries up in the rivers. Hiring seasonal workers at minimum wage, canning the salmon and sending it to Japan. What a shame and waste.
The Troll :'( :'(
Of course it does. Sometimes they're rotting while still alive during the spawn! :biggrin: You know what I mean then, exactly.
Sarah Palin, tea bag princess...oh boy that gives their position integrity. *sarcasm* ;D
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on March 28, 2010, 08:40:51 AM
Sarah Palin, tea bag princess...oh boy that gives their position integrity. *sarcasm* ;D
Amen!!! Babycakes, right on. The Troll :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
yeah, Babycakes.... :razz:
You snookums, you!
Well, if nothing else the path the rupugs seem to be hell-bent on taking includes Princess Palin; and thusly they shall meet their doom again in 2012.
They're insisting upon showing their true colors in doing so too, and each time they distribute their current propaganda it just reinforces my current intention to never vote republican again. I hate racists, lying, and deceitful people; and that party insists on running those types up the flagpole regularly as of late. . . :rant: (And they'll never get Princess Palin off that pole, as she continues to self service herself atop it!) :biggrin:
Quote from: Palehorse on April 08, 2010, 01:49:45 PM
Well, if nothing else the path the rupugs seem to be hell-bent on taking includes Princess Palin; and thusly they shall meet their doom again in 2012.
They're insisting upon showing their true colors in doing so too, and each time they distribute their current propaganda it just reinforces my current intention to never vote republican again. I hate racists, lying, and deceitful people; and that party insists on running those types up the flagpole regularly as of late. . . :rant: (And they'll never get Princess Palin off that pole, as she continues to self service herself atop it!) :biggrin:
That pretty well encompasses the Dem's too.
The fact that a certain segment of the population of this country is willing to vote for her for POTUS should scare the absolute HELL out of anyone with a smidgen of a brain. And we wonder why the Europeans think we're stupid.
Quote from: me on April 08, 2010, 01:51:54 PM
That pretty well encompasses the Dem's too.
Well, "ME" again, as Ron White "Tater" the comician says and it would fit you very well,
Quote from: Locutus on April 08, 2010, 01:52:50 PM
The fact that a certain segment of the population of this country is willing to vote for her for POTUS should scare the absolute HELL out of anyone with a smidgen of a brain. And we wonder why the Europeans think we're stupid.
There is no accounting for the stupidity that runs rampant in this country, other than to point out how the lack of higher education is exemplified within it.
The lion's share of this world recognized very early on the value in educating its populace, while America and Americans in general wallowed about beneath the false sense of security it felt in its wealth of manufacturing.
Well, that blanket is now tattered and leaves us exposed to the world; ripe for the picking lest we do something about it.
Quote from: The Troll on April 08, 2010, 01:56:25 PM
Well, "ME" again, as Ron White "Tater" the comician says and it would fit you very well,
:rolleyes:
Quote from: Palehorse on April 08, 2010, 01:49:45 PM
I hate racists, lying, and deceitful people
THAT fit's Pelosi and her cast to a TEE!!!!!
without a doubt the most corrupt, lying, deceitful piece of crap to hit DC in ages...
who said that Palin is running?..............I haven't heard anything regarding that...........I hear more of Mitch Daniels name being mentioned than Palins....I will say this for Palin, she is raising money like nobody's business for the consrvative party....so, I say go girl! :razz:
Fits a LOT of people these days. . .
Quote from: Palehorse on April 08, 2010, 05:39:26 PM
Fits a LOT of people these days. . .
Palehorse, have you the watch the TV tube lately. Michell Bachman threw a little meeting for her supporters. Sara Palin and Hannity was there. Hannity gave a little talk and turned to the couple hundred people that where there and said. "How would you like a ticket with Sara Palin and Michell Bachman for the Republican Party." :rolleyes: :razz: :rolleyes: :razz:
The people that were there, stood up and jumping up and down screaming like they were out of their minds. Yes, Yes, Yes!!! COME TO THINK ABOUT IT, THEY ARE OUT OF THEIR F*#KING MINDS. :confused: :confused: :confused:
The Troll :wink: :smile: :biggrin:
Birds of a feather. . . blah, blah, blah.
The whole friggin world seems to be out of their tiny little minds for the most part as of late.
The current POTUS is not even half way through his term and already they're acting as if election day is tomorrow or something. Guess they have to spend those millions of dollars somewhere, and since they won't have to pay for their commercials this election, they are probably just going crazy. . . :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I find it all disgusting and not to mention rude. No matter who gets elected it is officially open season the day they take office. . .
I see that crap on TV, I change channels the second I become aware it is on. I refuse to watch anymore of it. (Let me start a rumor right here, right now)_ Watching Sarah Palin has been proven to give you brain cancer.
Exactly. And just wait and see what comes out of the Southern Republican Leadership Conference. They're having a straw poll of potential candidates for 2012 already.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36264931/ns/politics/
Ole' Sarah the Stupid is going to be there too.
Quote from: Locutus on April 08, 2010, 06:32:39 PM
Exactly. And just wait and see what comes out of the Southern Republican Leadership Conference. They're having a straw poll of potential candidates for 2012 already.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36264931/ns/politics/
Ole' Sarah the Stupid is going to be there too.
Hate to say this, but I think Katrina came ashore way too early. . .
Quote from: Locutus on April 08, 2010, 06:32:39 PM
Exactly. And just wait and see what comes out of the Southern Republican Leadership Conference. They're having a straw poll of potential candidates for 2012 already.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36264931/ns/politics/
Ole' Sarah the Stupid is going to be there too.
I'm kind of laughing....you know that if all the the theorists are correct....we'll have an election in Nov 2012...and in Dec 2012, the world will end as we know it, and most likely there won't be an inauguration in January. Dem. Obama will the last prez this country may ever see. :wink:
Quote from: pariann on April 08, 2010, 08:14:44 PM
I'm kind of laughing....you know that if all the the theorists are correct....we'll have an election in Nov 2012...and in Dec 2012, the world will end as we know it, and most likely there won't be an inauguration in January. Dem. Obama will the last prez this country may ever see. :wink:
If it does happen I am going to blame it on Sarah Palin! :yes: (Eternally)
(http://dmwit.com/bacteria/grumpy.jpg)
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 08, 2010, 02:13:10 PM
THAT fit's Pelosi and her cast to a TEE!!!!!
without a doubt the most corrupt, lying, deceitful piece of crap to hit DC in ages...
who said that Palin is running?..............I haven't heard anything regarding that...........I hear more of Mitch Daniels name being mentioned than Palins....I will say this for Palin, she is raising money like nobody's business for the consrvative party....so, I say go girl! :razz:
:genius: Henry, :pink: :pink: :pink: :pigfly: :bsflag:
I believe the Southern Republican Leadership Conference voted for Mr. Gringrich and Mr. Paul.
Quote from: Anne on April 10, 2010, 07:31:26 PM
I believe the Southern Republican Leadership Conference voted for Mr. Gringrich and Mr. Paul.
:salute:
Newt: :azz: :witch: :rifle: :poser: :pink: :pink: :@#%&: :suck: :bsflag:
Quote from: Anne on April 10, 2010, 07:31:26 PM
I believe the Southern Republican Leadership Conference voted for Mr. Gringrich and Mr. Paul.
eeewwww :-\
Quote from: me on April 11, 2010, 01:14:42 AM
eeewwww :-\
:sarcasm: :wacko: :rotfl: :rotfl: :blah: :blah: :clap: :clap: :salute:
Quote from: Anne on April 10, 2010, 07:31:26 PM
I believe the Southern Republican Leadership Conference voted for Mr. Gringrich and Mr. Paul.
This Mr. Paul?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/RuPaul_by_David_Shankbone.jpg/220px-RuPaul_by_David_Shankbone.jpg)
Me says
"Ewwwwww", but I'm kind of intrigued.
You might Rue the day. :smile:
Quote from: Palehorse on April 09, 2010, 07:50:50 PM
(http://dmwit.com/bacteria/grumpy.jpg)
That kinda' reminds me of an old troll from Anderson. :icon_twisted: :biggrin:
Quote from: Locutus on April 11, 2010, 11:35:43 AM
That kinda' reminds me of an old troll from Anderson. :icon_twisted: :biggrin:
:biggrin:
Quote from: LOsborne on April 11, 2010, 10:50:30 AM
This Mr. Paul?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/RuPaul_by_David_Shankbone.jpg/220px-RuPaul_by_David_Shankbone.jpg)
Me says "Ewwwwww", but I'm kind of intrigued.
:rotfl:
Quote from: Palehorse on April 11, 2010, 12:56:30 PM
:biggrin:
:salute:
:trustme: :wacko: :finger01: :finger2: :kick: :seeya2: :laugh: :laugh: :biggrin:
Quote from: The Troll on April 11, 2010, 05:52:25 PM
:salute:
:trustme: :wacko: :finger01: :finger2: :kick: :seeya2: :laugh: :laugh: :biggrin:
Actually, I
wasn't talking about you. ;D
Sorry, I was wrong about the SRLC they voted Mr. Romney, Mr. Ron Paul, and Mr. Gingrich and Mrs. Palin were about tied for 3rd. Heard some interesting comments about Gov. Mitch Daniels today. We shall see in a couple years.
Mitch's name IS being tossed aroung quite a bit by many of the prominent GOP'ers....Newt is a big fan of Mitch.
Vultures flock you know. . .
Quote from: Palehorse on April 12, 2010, 12:15:23 PM
Vultures flock you know. . .
I sure do!!..they have taken over Washington DC... ;)
Those flocking vultures in D.C. really tick me off!!
Get the flock outta here!
:biggrin:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on April 12, 2010, 01:09:30 PM
Get the flock outta here!
THAT should be the campaign slogan for 2010....(Both Parties)
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 12, 2010, 02:09:37 PM
THAT should be the campaign slogan for 2010....(Both Parties)
Something we agree on! :spooked:
Flockin' A!
Quote from: Palehorse on April 12, 2010, 02:11:21 PM
Something we agree on! :spooked:
Oh no, we're gonna have blizzard in April I just know it.....count me in on the agreeing..... :spooked:
:biggrin:
Quote from: Palehorse on April 12, 2010, 02:11:21 PM
Something we agree on! :spooked:
That is flockin scary... :spooked:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 12, 2010, 02:20:59 PM
That is flockin scary... :spooked:
Quote from: me on April 12, 2010, 02:17:45 PM
Oh no, we're gonna have blizzard in April I just know it.....count me in on the agreeing..... :spooked:
This is just too flockin weird. . . Has hell frozen over?
I hope not, because if so, then ALL of "those" things are going to happen. ;D
:rotfl: :rotfl: :snowball:
Quote from: Palehorse on April 12, 2010, 12:15:23 PM
Vultures flock you know. . .
:ditto: :pink: :pink: :pink: :jester: :wacko: :bsflag: :artist: :salute:
Bad:
Situation normal -- all flocked up. (SNAFU)
Worse:
Flocked up beyond belief. (FUBB)
Worst:
Flocked up beyond all recognition. (FUBAR)
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :yes: :yes: :yes:
Quote from: followsthewolf on April 12, 2010, 04:01:17 PM
Bad:
Situation normal -- all flocked up. (SNAFU)
Worse:
Flocked up beyond belief. (FUBB)
Worst:
Flocked up beyond all recognition. (FUBAR)
Quote from: Palehorse on April 12, 2010, 02:22:51 PM
This is just too flockin weird. . . Has hell frozen over?
Which is worse.....All hell freezing over or all hell breaking loose?
Quote from: me on April 12, 2010, 04:29:29 PM
Which is worse.....All hell freezing over or all hell breaking loose?
who in the hell flocking know?.... :confused:
Doesn't that depend on where in hell you are?
I think it would... :yes:
CHARLIE FOXTROT = CLUSTER F**K, from World II. :salute:
Ya, I guess it would since there's pure hell and freakin' hell.
Quote from: followsthewolf on April 12, 2010, 05:03:39 PM
Doesn't that depend on where in hell you are?
:devil29: :devil29: :devil29: :devil29: :devil29: :devil4: :devil29: :devil29: :devil29: :devil29: :devil29:
Quote from: Palehorse on April 12, 2010, 06:24:02 PM
:devil29: :devil29: :devil29: :devil29: :devil29: :devil4: :devil29: :devil29: :devil29: :devil29: :devil29:
Now that would be bloody hell.
Dunno, but I won't be able to think of Flock of Seagulls the same again. That's a special kinda hell ;D
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on April 12, 2010, 07:48:16 PM
Dunno, but I won't be able to think of Flock of Seagulls the same again. That's a special kinda hell ;D
:biggrin:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on April 12, 2010, 07:48:16 PM
Dunno, but I won't be able to think of Flock of Seagulls the same again. That's a special kinda hell ;D
HELL! :shrk: :shrk: :shrk: :shrk: :sail: :flash:
Holy flockin hell Batman!
Quote from: Palehorse on April 08, 2010, 01:49:45 PM
Well, if nothing else the path the rupugs seem to be hell-bent on taking includes Princess Palin; and thusly they shall meet their doom again in 2012.
They're insisting upon showing their true colors in doing so too, and each time they distribute their current propaganda it just reinforces my current intention to never vote republican again. I hate racists, lying, and deceitful people; and that party insists on running those types up the flagpole regularly as of late. . . :rant: (And they'll never get Princess Palin off that pole, as she continues to self service herself atop it!) :biggrin:
The trouble with Sara Palin, she sure is fooling the Teabaggers and a whole lots of dumbasses. Since the quit being governor, she has made, $12 MILLION. Suckers made every day.
The Troll :no2:
Anyone see the partial contract for Palin some students pulled out a the trash? :rolleyes:
I did.
Quote from: The Troll on April 13, 2010, 09:12:11 PM
The trouble with Sara Palin, she sure is fooling the Teabaggers and a whole lots of dumbasses. Since the quit being governor, she has made, $12 MILLION. Suckers made every day.
The Troll :no2:
And so? I do believe she has a right to earn money.
Quote from: me on April 14, 2010, 10:59:42 PM
And so? I do believe she has a right to earn money.
Sure she does, that the American way. Hell $12 million dollars is chicken feed to what the Republicans and the banker and Wall Street too us in the Trillions of dollars.
I truly hope she and the Teabag Party get a third party doing. It would be truly a golden day for me.
the Troll :no1:
Quote from: The Troll on April 14, 2010, 11:14:37 PM
Sure she does, that the American way. Hell $12 million dollars is chicken feed to what the Republicans and the banker and Wall Street too us in the Trillions of dollars.
I truly hope she and the Teabag Party get a third party doing. It would be truly a golden day for me.
the Troll :no1:
It's also chicken feed compared to Gore and Clinton's so what's yer point?
The point is, these guys just don't like her and are trying to demonize her so she will go away, but the fact is she is raising money for the conservatives by the millions and she is only getting stronger.....so I like her just fine....keep on bringing in the doe girl!!!
Money that otherwise would be better spent stimulating the economy rather than stroking a political panacea!
Quote from: Palehorse on April 15, 2010, 11:25:31 AM
Money that otherwise would be better spent stimulating the economy rather than stroking a political panacea!
Her money, her call. I would imagine it is spent in some ways to stimulate the economy but the fact remains she has just as much right as Kerry, Gore, Pelosi, Reed, Sharpton, Bill Clinton, and the rest to make big bucks.
Quote from: Palehorse on April 15, 2010, 11:25:31 AM
Money that otherwise would be better spent stimulating the economy rather than stroking a political panacea!
well, the way I see it clearly, we need to do this so we
will have a stimulated economy in 2012..... ;)
it is NOT too stimulated right now... :no:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 15, 2010, 11:29:14 AM
well, the way I see it clearly, we need to do this so we will have a stimulated economy in 2012..... ;)
it is NOT too stimulated right now... :no:
Quote from: me on April 15, 2010, 11:28:59 AM
Her money, her call. I would imagine it is spent in some ways to stimulate the economy but the fact remains she has just as much right as Kerry, Gore, Pelosi, Reed, Sharpton, Bill Clinton, and the rest to make big bucks.
So let me get this straight- it's okay for a supposed private citizen to go around sucking up funds from the wealthy to hoard over a course of two or more years, eliminating millions that would otherwise be going toward business investments that would create blue and white collar jobs now?
Quote from: Palehorse on April 15, 2010, 11:34:16 AM
So let me get this straight- it's okay for a supposed private citizen to go around sucking up funds from the wealthy to hoard over a course of two or more years, eliminating millions that would otherwise be going toward business investments that would create blue and white collar jobs now?
so let ME get this straight.... YOU would want the SCOTUS to rule that nobody can do that?...you think gov knows how we should spend our money? that maybe they should make MORE laws saying exactly how or where we should spend our money?
Quote from: Palehorse on April 15, 2010, 11:34:16 AM
So let me get this straight- it's okay for a supposed private citizen to go around sucking up funds from the wealthy to hoard over a course of two or more years, eliminating millions that would otherwise be going toward business investments that would create blue and white collar jobs now?
She earns it and you're darn right she has the right to spend it as she chooses just as any other private citizen does. In case you've forgotten her husband does own a business in Alaska. Besides how do you know what she's doing with her money?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 15, 2010, 11:47:47 AM
so let ME get this straight.... YOU would want the SCOTUS to rule that nobody can do that?...you think gov knows how we should spend our money? that maybe they should make MORE laws saying exactly how or where we should spend our money?
Quote from: me on April 15, 2010, 12:24:08 PM
She earns it and you're darn right she has the right to spend it as she chooses just as any other private citizen does. In case you've forgotten her husband does own a business in Alaska. Besides how do you know what she's doing with her money?
NO, that is unequivocally incorrect, (and off topic but since you brought it up); I AM against faceless corporate entities obtaining even more influence in our political process and government, as they have with the SCOTUS decision granting them the ability to BUY the offices of influence within it.
Not that they were not doing it already, but that decision provides them the ability to double dip in the process by affording "gifts" and funding for propaganda campaigns; thereby reducing the PRIVATE individual's vote to nothing short of asswipe. They will BUY political offices for individuals in exchange for favorable legislation that will negatively impact the PRIVATE citizens ability to pursue life, liberty, and happiness.
I don't think I have to tell anyone about how those corporations treat employees like so much human chattel, hiring and firing at will and with little to no consequence. Their actions demonstrate they have little to no regard surrounding quality and quantity of life where their employees are concerned. How can you think it will be any different where the millions of faceless (in their view) PRIVATE citizens are concerned? It won't, and thereby make living within the laws of the land impossible for the average citizen, but a cake walk for corporations.
It's "we the people", not "we the corporations"!
The "opposition" demonstrates its hypocrisy in supporting this hogwash piece of legislation, as well as when they criticize the present administrations revamping of the tax rates for those making 250k and up to pay for healthcare reform. And the apparently self appointed poster child for all of this is none other than Sarah Palin herself.
I for one find it hard to understand how anyone can support a private individual running around the country diverting millions in potential job creating capital, toward a political war chest that will do nothing toward the stimulation of business, job creation, or the economy; and simultaneously decry the implementation of policies and programs that do all three of these things.
The "validation" I hear most often is that taxation of the high earners is restricting the input of these individuals toward business growth and job creation. Ironic, when you consider the fact that it is this very same sector of the population that is largely contributing to the "My Pretty Pony Palin" war chest.
So why is it okay in one case and not the other? One is constructive and the other destructive, and it isn't very hard to see which of the two is the best path toward positively impacting the lives of average citizens in an expedited manner. If you take off the blinders and approach it from a neutral perspective that is. Most will not though, because they've already become engaged in the emotional windstorm of propaganda that is being distributed with ever increasing volume.
The problem a lot of people are having is that they don't seem to be able to separate the private citizen from the political one when it comes to Palin. She is purposely blurring that line by sensationalizing public commentary upon aspects of her personal life within political forums. Make no mistake, she's out there flying her flag to promote a political agenda and the funding she is generating can only be legally expended in that pursuit. Moreover, she utilizes private speaking engagements for which she commands $100,000.00+ fees, as opportunities to promote party agendas - and thereby double dipping.
My prediction is that by the time the laundry is done the Pretty Pony Palin is going to find herself being ridden by the Internal Revenue Service and the DOJ for tax and funding violations. Then she'll really have a reason to bray!
and HOW, exactly is she doing anything any differenct than any other politician?..........THAT, is how they play the game....it is all about the ability to raise money....at least that is the way it has always been played in moderen history.
Do you think Obama was any different? In 2008, Obama raised more money in one month than any presidential candidate has ever recorded in a one-month period with a whopping $66 million....ONE MONTH!...he made a killing off of his books...he was doing the same thing Palin was/is.....
I still believe, the only reason some don't like Palin is because they feel "threatened" by her power and popularity....she has been demonized by the media ever since she was mentioned...and she is STILL rolling along....I remember Reagan was the same way....he was demonized by the media as a dumb hollywood actor as a war monger and on and on and on...but he did not get rattled, nor did he waiver from his political beliefs...he ALWAYS stood with conviction and spoke what he believed to be best for this country, much as is Palin.
You still never answered me on one thing, do YOU think the gov should step in and say how we should spend our money when it comes to politics?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 15, 2010, 01:25:01 PM
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You still never answered me on one thing, do YOU think the gov should step in and say how we should spend our money when it comes to politics?
Private individuals, yes to a degree; via maximums for political contributions toward a single candidate. Otherwise the rich will wield undue influence over the political process.
Corporate entities; absolutely and without question, they should be severely limited to the point where their ability to influence our political and legislative processes is minimized to enhance the will of the people.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 15, 2010, 01:25:01 PM
and HOW, exactly is she doing anything any differenct than any other politician?..........THAT, is how they play the game....it is all about the ability to raise money....at least that is the way it has always been played in moderen history.
Do you think Obama was any different? In 2008, Obama raised more money in one month than any presidential candidate has ever recorded in a one-month period with a whopping $66 million....ONE MONTH!...he made a killing off of his books...he was doing the same thing Palin was/is.....
I still believe, the only reason some don't like Palin is because they feel "threatened" by her power and popularity....she has been demonized by the media ever since she was mentioned...and she is STILL rolling along....I remember Reagan was the same way....he was demonized by the media as a dumb hollywood actor as a war monger and on and on and on...but he did not get rattled, nor did he waiver from his political beliefs...he ALWAYS stood with conviction and spoke what he believed to be best for this country, much as is Palin.
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Its the hypocrisy of it that rubs me the wrong way. She QUITS a high level state elected office to take her life on the road, to do nothing more than stir up a political windstorm intended to block the current incoming administrations ability to implement change. Period.
The bigger question is why? She does NOT have the support, ability, or faith of her constituency to hold the office of POTUS, but my personal belief is she wants another shot at riding another candidates coat-tails into the office of VPOTUS, another office she has already demonstrated she is ill equipped to hold.
Quote from: Palehorse on April 15, 2010, 01:42:26 PM
Its the hypocrisy of it that rubs me the wrong way. She QUITS a high level state elected office to take her life on the road, to do nothing more than stir up a political windstorm intended to block the current incoming administrations ability to implement change. Period.
The bigger question is why? She does NOT have the support, ability, or faith of her constituency to hold the office of POTUS, but my personal belief is she wants another shot at riding another candidates coat-tails into the office of VPOTUS, another office she has already demonstrated she is ill equipped to hold.
Like Biden is the cream of the crop...... :rotfl:
Quote from: me on April 15, 2010, 02:06:50 PM
Like Biden is the cream of the crop...... :rotfl:
I have yet to hear / read anyone make such a claim, but feel free to giggle none the less. IMO despite his mistakes he's doing a better job than she could have. . .
Quote from: Palehorse on April 15, 2010, 01:42:26 PM
Its the hypocrisy of it that rubs me the wrong way. She QUITS a high level state elected office to take her life on the road, to do nothing more than stir up a political windstorm intended to block the current incoming administrations ability to implement change. Period.
The bigger question is why? She does NOT have the support, ability, or faith of her constituency to hold the office of POTUS, but my personal belief is she wants another shot at riding another candidates coat-tails into the office of VPOTUS, another office she has already demonstrated she is ill equipped to hold.
I will give you my take on Palin...based upon what I have read, she left her governorship for a couple of reasons. First, she was pending several lawsuits filed against her, by those on the left who was paid to find anything they can use against her to stifle her run as VP and to discredit her as all costs...she did not have the money to fight some on a personal level, nor did she think she could do her job as elected with all the hoop la.....she stepped down for the sake of the people. Secondly, she knew she could also serve her country by, speaking and touring. Generating $$ for her party to set up a Conservative victory in 2010.
She is also testing the waters for her "potential" run at the POTUS....the only way to do so, is to get out there and tell the people what she stands for. As far as her ability, she IMO, has already proved she can be an effective politician, by her experience as a mayor and as a Gov....more so than a one term senator and a community organizer. Now, Can she get the support?....THAT, is what she is going to find out over the next few months...
BTW, HOW has she shown that she is ill equiped for a VP?...I don't think McCain lost because of her.
with all that said, i want to make it clear, I am not ready to throw my support to her as my next POTUS...but, I would take her in a heart beat over Obama if the election was today....
and Biden is a moron...period. And I think he is a bigger joke than Quayle was....BY FAR.
my 2 cent for the day.... :)
Revenge of the Zombies. I absolutely love Sara Palin and Michell Bachman. Their the best thing that has happen to the Republican Party in years.
I just love to see hear them talking to the Teabagger. Palehorse, just like the comedian Ron White said. "You can't fix stupid."
If they can talk the idiot Teabagger, to form the third party, it will be absolutely be great. :sarcasm:
33% of the voters are Christian Wingnuts. If the Teabagger get enough of these nuts to vote for Sara's and Michell,s candidates. Hell, the Democrates can walk off the the whole banana, with less than 50% of the vote. Go Sara. :wacko: Go Michell. :wacko:
The troll :no1:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 15, 2010, 02:24:39 PM
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BTW, HOW has she shown that she is ill equiped for a VP?...I don't think McCain lost because of her.
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and Biden is a moron...period. And I think he is a bigger joke than Quayle was....BY FAR.
my 2 cent for the day.... :)
She quit her last job to which she was elected. I don't care what line of smarmy validation she put forth for doing so, the fact remains when the going got rough she bailed. Period. How can anyone even think she can withstand the pressure and stress of VPOTUS much less POTUS? She'll just get her panties all wadded up in her crack and resign in a tizzy, just as she did as Alaska's Gov. (And probably make up yet another smarmy line of validation for that as well, which the kool aid addicts will just slurp right up).
Biden is certainly not any worse than the Shrub was as POTUS. And to say he is worse than Quayle, well that is a really huge stretch. Don't pull a muscle. . .
Quote from: Palehorse on April 15, 2010, 04:57:13 PM
She quit her last job to which she was elected. I don't care what line of smarmy validation she put forth for doing so, the fact remains when the going got rough she bailed. Period. How can anyone even think she can withstand the pressure and stress of VPOTUS much less POTUS? She'll just get her panties all wadded up in her crack and resign in a tizzy, just as she did as Alaska's Gov. (And probably make up yet another smarmy line of validation for that as well, which the kool aid addicts will just slurp right up).
Biden is certainly not any worse than the Shrub was as POTUS. And to say he is worse than Quayle, well that is a really huge stretch. Don't pull a muscle. . .
you may be right, she may have shot herself in the foot, IF, and I say IF, she runs for POTUS...I have others who I much rather see, and hope for, but I will take her "rock star" image she has right now, and hopes she keeps on speaking and stoking the fire for this November....
I STILL say, the left is threatened by her.....and they want her OUT of the Picture or they would just shut up about her, but they refuse too, they keep on and on and on about her and she is getting stronger and stronger everytime.
She didn't do crap for the citizens of Alaska. There was no altruistic motive. She quit because she was offered lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$ for all kinds of second-rate tv shows, tea bagger appearances, Faux news commentary, and a deal to write a POS book.
There are enough doh people who will support her. Most because they dream of hitting that.
I would say the left isn't frightened, but amused by her. I personally laugh hysterically when another rightwinger shows how gullible they are by believing and repeating that BS.
If you think about it, talking about someone doesn't imply fear. For example, me likes to bring up Gore outta no where, every chance she gets...is she afraid? :biggrin:
If she's raising money for the party, then it just shows how low their standards really are.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on April 15, 2010, 05:47:08 PM
I would say the left isn't frightened, but amused by her. I personally laugh hysterically when another rightwinger shows how gullible they are by believing and repeating that BS.
If you think about it, talking about someone doesn't imply fear. For example, me likes to bring up Gore outta no where, every chance she gets...is she afraid? :biggrin:
If she's raising money for the party, then it just shows how low their standards really are.
:biggrin: :yes:
She's a republican party whore out spreading the disease du jour to the masses! :biggrin:
Quote from: me on April 15, 2010, 02:06:50 PM
Like Biden is the cream of the crop...... :rotfl:
Straw man,
me. Joe Biden's ability or lack or same does not in any way impact the discussion of Palin's political fund raising. This tactic is often seen on the playground, when some snotty ten-year-old who has been reprimanded for a rule infraction whines, "Huh-uh ... he did it too."
So what's your point? That she isn't quite as goofy as Biden (in your opinion,) and therefor we should take her clown act seriously?
A lot of other people are fund raising too and no one is paying all this attention to them so what's so special about Palin. If someone has a dinner to raise funds and invites her as a speaker it isn't her doing it it's what ever the organization is that's raising the funds and the people who attend the functions are going to see her. She is just that a "guest speaker" not the "organizer" of the fund raiser.
If someone were to have a fund raiser for the Dems and invited Bill Clinton to speak would he be the guest speaker or the fund raiser(organizer)? Should he be told how to spend the money he might happen to make at such a function?
Quote from: me on April 15, 2010, 09:34:34 PM
A lot of other people are fund raising too and no one is paying all this attention to them so what's so special about Palin. If someone has a dinner to raise funds and invites her as a speaker it isn't her doing it it's what ever the organization is that's raising the funds and the people who attend the functions are going to see her. She is just that a "guest speaker" not the "organizer" of the fund raiser.
If someone were to have a fund raiser for the Dems and invited Bill Clinton to speak would he be the guest speaker or the fund raiser(organizer)? Should he be told how to spend the money he might happen to make at such a function?
This posting is a prime example of what I was talking about when I stated people are having a hard time separating the personal and political lives of Pretty Pony Palin.
No one is saying anything about her supposed "private revenue" or begrudging her that, but rather it is the intentional blurring of the two by PPP herself that is feeding it. Her tendency to elevate private matters within the media, while speaking at a political event, just serves to inflame the whole thing.
That she herself cannot seem to keep the two separate is telling as well, and a clear indication that it is very likely she will encounter the same challenge in keeping the two separate financials separate. Just watch, I see a huge financial fiasco in the works there and she'll be right in the middle of it.
This whole PPP thing is nothing more than a political Jerry Springer episode that won't end. And when the rubber hits the road the truth in that statement will be revealed when she fails to anything more than drive voters to place their votes against her. Bad Karma and she's drawing a lot of it her way by her own actions.
Then there's her politics. . . :rolleyes:
Quote from: Palehorse on April 15, 2010, 12:42:21 PM
NO, that is unequivocally incorrect, (and off topic but since you brought it up); I AM against faceless corporate entities obtaining even more influence in our political process and government, as they have with the SCOTUS decision granting them the ability to BUY the offices of influence within it.
Not that they were not doing it already, but that decision provides them the ability to double dip in the process by affording "gifts" and funding for propaganda campaigns; thereby reducing the PRIVATE individual's vote to nothing short of asswipe. They will BUY political offices for individuals in exchange for favorable legislation that will negatively impact the PRIVATE citizens ability to pursue life, liberty, and happiness.
I don't think I have to tell anyone about how those corporations treat employees like so much human chattel, hiring and firing at will and with little to no consequence. Their actions demonstrate they have little to no regard surrounding quality and quantity of life where their employees are concerned. How can you think it will be any different where the millions of faceless (in their view) PRIVATE citizens are concerned? It won't, and thereby make living within the laws of the land impossible for the average citizen, but a cake walk for corporations.
It's "we the people", not "we the corporations"!
The "opposition" demonstrates its hypocrisy in supporting this hogwash piece of legislation, as well as when they criticize the present administrations revamping of the tax rates for those making 250k and up to pay for healthcare reform. And the apparently self appointed poster child for all of this is none other than Sarah Palin herself.
I for one find it hard to understand how anyone can support a private individual running around the country diverting millions in potential job creating capital, toward a political war chest that will do nothing toward the stimulation of business, job creation, or the economy; and simultaneously decry the implementation of policies and programs that do all three of these things.
The "validation" I hear most often is that taxation of the high earners is restricting the input of these individuals toward business growth and job creation. Ironic, when you consider the fact that it is this very same sector of the population that is largely contributing to the "My Pretty Pony Palin" war chest.
So why is it okay in one case and not the other? One is constructive and the other destructive, and it isn't very hard to see which of the two is the best path toward positively impacting the lives of average citizens in an expedited manner. If you take off the blinders and approach it from a neutral perspective that is. Most will not though, because they've already become engaged in the emotional windstorm of propaganda that is being distributed with ever increasing volume.
The problem a lot of people are having is that they don't seem to be able to separate the private citizen from the political one when it comes to Palin. She is purposely blurring that line by sensationalizing public commentary upon aspects of her personal life within political forums. Make no mistake, she's out there flying her flag to promote a political agenda and the funding she is generating can only be legally expended in that pursuit. Moreover, she utilizes private speaking engagements for which she commands $100,000.00+ fees, as opportunities to promote party agendas - and thereby double dipping.
My prediction is that by the time the laundry is done the Pretty Pony Palin is going to find herself being ridden by the Internal Revenue Service and the DOJ for tax and funding violations. Then she'll really have a reason to bray!
Who would you have them hire as speakers?
Guess she'd be right up there with the dems in congress who keep "forgetting" about properties and can't understand Turbo Tax then huh?
Um, something just dawned on me. What large corporations is Palin speaking at? I thought she was just doing the Tea Party rallies.
Quote from: me on April 15, 2010, 10:38:09 PM
Um, something just dawned on me. What large corporations is Palin speaking at? I thought she was just doing the Tea Party rallies.
Where did
that come from? Who said she is speaking at corporations (other than you?) Check the hat,
me. The shiny side goes out. This is very important since that "meteor" streaked across the sky a couple days ago.
:smile:
Quote from: LOsborne on April 16, 2010, 07:56:48 AM
Where did that come from? Who said she is speaking at corporations (other than you?) Check the hat, me. The shiny side goes out. This is very important since that "meteor" streaked across the sky a couple days ago.
Just trying to tie this into it is all. Can't figure out how she is diverting anything from the economy unless it's the large corporations paying her which it isn't. She is giving her opinion on the way she feels about things and doesn't happen to agree with the current administration is all. I just don't understand why it is such a big deal when she is hired to speak and not when someone else is. I just find this whole thing about bad mouthing Palin absurd since there are others who disagree with the current policies and those who agree with it who are speaking at different functions and getting paid just as much or maybe even more than Palin and no one is bad mouthing them. Why single her out?
QuoteQuote from: Palehorse on April 15, 2010, 12:42:21 PM
NO, that is unequivocally incorrect, (and off topic but since you brought it up); I AM against faceless corporate entities obtaining even more influence in our political process and government, as they have with the SCOTUS decision granting them the ability to BUY the offices of influence within it.
Not that they were not doing it already, but that decision provides them the ability to double dip in the process by affording "gifts" and funding for propaganda campaigns; thereby reducing the PRIVATE individual's vote to nothing short of asswipe. They will BUY political offices for individuals in exchange for favorable legislation that will negatively impact the PRIVATE citizens ability to pursue life, liberty, and happiness.
I don't think I have to tell anyone about how those corporations treat employees like so much human chattel, hiring and firing at will and with little to no consequence. Their actions demonstrate they have little to no regard surrounding quality and quantity of life where their employees are concerned. How can you think it will be any different where the millions of faceless (in their view) PRIVATE citizens are concerned? It won't, and thereby make living within the laws of the land impossible for the average citizen, but a cake walk for corporations.
It's "we the people", not "we the corporations"!
The "opposition" demonstrates its hypocrisy in supporting this hogwash piece of legislation, as well as when they criticize the present administrations revamping of the tax rates for those making 250k and up to pay for healthcare reform. And the apparently self appointed poster child for all of this is none other than Sarah Palin herself.
I for one find it hard to understand how anyone can support a private individual running around the country diverting millions in potential job creating capital, toward a political war chest that will do nothing toward the stimulation of business, job creation, or the economy; and simultaneously decry the implementation of policies and programs that do all three of these things.
Because she's an idiot. She comes across as an idiot and she continues to put herself out there to be ridiculed. IMO, she's on the same level as the Goselins.
If my child attended a school where thet spent an extraordinary amount of money to hear her speak, I'd seriously consider withdrawing her. Not b/c she's a Republican conservative, but b/c the educational standards of that school can't be too high if they're willing to pay for that.
On the other hand, put an intelligent conservative Republican at the podium, not a reactionary brainless attention-whore and I'd love for my child to hear them speak.
Think about the vast difference between Condi and Sarah and perhaps you'll see my point.
You know Sandy, I may surprise you, but I am somewhat, at least partially, in agreement with you.
There is something about her that "I" don't particularly like. It may have simply been that Tina Fey has kind of 'branded" that image into my brain that when I see Sarah speak now, I see Tina Fey!!.. :spooked:
I disagree that she is an idiot though...even though I understand 'why' you think that. The woman is a very accomplished woman, who has achieved a great deal by not being an idiot. I think it is her demeanor...that comes across in an unfashonable way, but again, had Tina Fey never did her take on her, I think many would NOT be as critical on her as they are now....I have a very good friend of mine who has read her book, and has fallen in love with her, and he is NOT a political kind of guy....and based upon HIS views of her that he has shared with me is that she really is a very, very sharp and strong woman.....
just my thoughts...
It's not how she says it, but what she says that indicates she's an idiot.
E TV is full of people who have "accomplished alot" simply b/c the American people are enthralled with celebrities who don't offer a lot more than feeding the need for drama. The popularity of reality programming proves that to be true IMO. She's not a step above that.
Try to imagine her in the midst of a meeting of world leaders.......and remember that she would be representing the United States from the perspective that she would have been elected.
Would you feel confident that she is representing you?
Quote from: followsthewolf on April 16, 2010, 10:55:37 AM
Try to imagine her in the midst of a meeting of world leaders.......and remember that she would be representing the United States from the perspective that she would have been elected.
Would you feel confident that she is representing you?
more so than who is currently representing me.....
:eek: :eek: :eek:
If you're a backward-ass bumpkin :biggrin:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on April 16, 2010, 10:48:22 AM
....The popularity of reality programming proves that to be true IMO. She's not a step above that.
Sandy, I believe you are on to something here. Historically, in hard times, entertainment of any kind is in high demand. Look at the movie business during the thirties. Due to the writer's strike awhile back, television fielded a lot of "reality" shows. Evidently we will watch anything for escape, so these lame programs did well. The studios discovered how very, very cprofitable it is to put something on the tube which does not require writers, actors or sets, so mindless reality TV is still the bulk of prime time scheduling.
Consequently, the public now is willing to accept any form of entertainment which has no logical cohesion, so long as it's noisy ... and goofy. Hence, we get Moose-Hunter Barbie as a new icon.
I know there are some who believe she is an ELF, or at least ELF-controlled. But the president, chief writer and high priest of the PPDC (my best friend Morgan) disputes this view. He says ELFs would not use anyone so attention-hungry. And they have better taste.
Even the atheis need to get down on their knees a pray on this one. :pray:. WE WANT A THIRD PARTY, WE WANT A THIRD PARTY. THE TEABAG PARTY.
It would be beautiful, two parties fighting for the same Republican votes. :pink: :pink: :pink: :fireworks: :fireworks: blessed :jc:
The Troll :no1: :seeya2:
Quote from: The Troll on April 16, 2010, 07:42:57 PM
Even the atheis need to get down on their knees a pray on this one. :pray:. WE WANT A THIRD PARTY, WE WANT A THIRD PARTY. THE TEABAG PARTY.
It would be beautiful, two parties fighting for the same Republican votes. :pink: :pink: :pink: :fireworks: :fireworks: blessed :jc:
The Troll :no1: :seeya2:
There is only one party; republodem. One party, two wings; right and left. They do the same shit, just say they are different as the lying liars they are. The teabaggers, so far, are just a bunch of white trash pissed a negro is in charge. If they are really against big gov't, where were they when shrub was growing gov't control and spending like no one before him? The teabagging trailer trash have no credibility on anything which couldn't be illustrated more than having failin palin on their side.
Quote from: dan foster on April 18, 2010, 04:40:28 PM
There is only one party; republodem. One party, two wings; right and left. They do the same shit, just say they are different as the lying liars they are. The teabaggers, so far, are just a bunch of white trash pissed a negro is in charge. If they are really against big gov't, where were they when shrub was growing gov't control and spending like no one before him? The teabagging trailer trash have no credibility on anything which couldn't be illustrated more than having failin palin on their side.
Dan, we have about 34% of the voters who will only vote Republican. If we can get a third party which is a bunch of rightwingnuts, Taliban Republicans who can grab about one half of those crazy people. The Democrats can win any election with 34% of the vote. The moderate Republican is practically gone. The Republican Party that I use to know is gone and good party members are letting it happer. GOOD! :wacko: :wacko: :tiphat:
I have a friend who I work with many years. A hard headed born again Christian and was a die hard Republican. After 8 years of George Bush, he claims that he's an Independent and he won't vote Republican. I asked, does that mean your going to vote Democratic. He said, no, because the Democrats are for abortion and gay marriage. So, go figure. He nuts. :pink: :pink: :pink: :pink: :fireworks: :fireworks: :fireworks: :preach: :preach:
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Quote from: The Troll on April 18, 2010, 05:55:16 PM
Dan, we have about 34% of the voters who will only vote Republican. If we can get a third party which is a bunch of rightwingnuts, Taliban Republicans who can grab about one half of those crazy people. The Democrats can win any election with 34% of the vote. The moderate Republican is practically gone. The Republican Party that I use to know is gone and good party members are letting it happer. GOOD! :wacko: :wacko: :tiphat:
I have a friend who I work with many years. A hard headed born again Christian and was a die hard Republican. After 8 years of George Bush, he claims that he's an Independent and he won't vote Republican. I asked, does that mean your going to vote Democratic. He said, no, because the Democrats are for abortion and gay marriage. So, go figure. He nuts. :pink: :pink: :pink: :pink: :fireworks: :fireworks: :fireworks: :preach: :preach:
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Would you mind explaining that part I bolded. How can the dem's win with only 34%?
The Teaparty get 33%, The Republicans get 33%. 33% + 33% = 66%.
The Democrats get 34% which is the highest number in a three party race. 33% or 34% If you look very close, that 1% makes the Democrats the Winner. :salute:
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Ok, gottcha. I was still thinking in terms of a two party race...duh...I'll be alright...well, at least I hope so.... :biggrin:
That is pretty much how Bill Clinton won his first election....
That's the thing...there are more than two parties. The shame of it is that they aren't taken seriously, aren't given the same exposure or even an opportunity in the debates.
If more people paid attention and actually voted for the best candidate and ignored political party affiliation, then the American people could possibly send a message to the two most popular that they need to step it up or they'll be replaced.
Clinton won b/c he was a better candidate than Bush Senior.
Amen, NOW NEW TAXES! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :yes:
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Quote from: Sandy Eggo on April 19, 2010, 08:20:22 AM
That's the thing...there are more than two parties. The shame of it is that they aren't taken seriously, aren't given the same exposure or even an opportunity in the debates.
If more people paid attention and actually voted for the best candidate and ignored political party affiliation, then the American people could possibly send a message to the two most popular that they need to step it up or they'll be replaced.
Clinton won b/c he was a better candidate than Bush Senior.
maybe he was or maybe he wasn't, but if you take Ross Perot out of the picture and I think there would NOT have ever been a President Clinton...imo
Quote from: me on April 19, 2010, 12:16:31 AM
Ok, gottcha. I was still thinking in terms of a two party race...duh...I'll be alright...well, at least I hope so.... :biggrin:
:biggrin: :biggrin: Being a yellow dog Democrat (someone who would vote for a yellow dog, before he would vote for a Republican.) wants a Teaparty. Go Teaparty. :pink: :pink: :pink: :pink: :fireworks: :fireworks: :fireworks:
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Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 19, 2010, 08:37:56 AM
...if you take Ross Perot out of the picture and I think there would NOT have ever been a President Clinton...imo
Take Ralph Nader out of the picture, and Florida isn't even in question in 2000, and W never sits in the oval office. Coulda-woulda-shoulda ... no point re-fighting those battles. We have plenty on the plate for the next one.
Quote from: LOsborne on April 19, 2010, 07:08:23 PM
Take Ralph Nader out of the picture, and Florida isn't even in question in 2000, and W never sits in the oval office. Coulda-woulda-shoulda ... no point re-fighting those battles. We have plenty on the plate for the next one.
my point was, it was said the Bill Clinton won because he was the better candidate....I'm not so sure THAT was the case.....but it is neither here nor there now....
Sara PaYlin, from ABC & Poitics Daily.com
Sara Pac collected $400,000 in donations and paid out.
$4,500 Donated to candidates
$2,000 to other Pac's
$0 Donated to 20 candidates in targeted races, she promised to donate to.
$243,000 paid to consultants.
$11,000 paid to photographers.
$31,000 "Generalized" traveling expenses.
$3,400 for one night in a New York City hotel.
$7,300 for deicing pirvate planes.
Good work Sara PAYlin, she's for small conservative government.
Go Teaparty. :fireworks: :pink: :pink: :pink: :pink: :fireworks: :fireworks:
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u have to be an idiot to blindly follow politicans, and even dumber to donate.
Welcome Moonglow, you have entered into the dark and deep Unknown Zone. With a lot of unusual characters. :trustme:
You never will what will get you. Always look over your shoulder :shrk: :shrk: :wacko: :wacko: :devil29: :witch3: and :bsflag:
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thank you. I appreciate the humble hello to person most will end up hating. Thank you.
Quote from: Moonglow on April 20, 2010, 01:52:59 PM
thank you. I appreciate the humble hello to person most will end up hating. Thank you.
Why would you think that?
Quote from: me on April 20, 2010, 01:56:44 PM
Why would you think that?
I tend to be rather aggressive and forceful.
Quote from: Moonglow on April 20, 2010, 01:58:17 PM
I tend to be rather aggressive and forceful.
No shortage of that around here. Back up your statements with credible information and what can they say?
Quote from: Palehorse on April 20, 2010, 02:03:40 PM
No shortage of that around here. Back up your statements with credible information and what can they say?
redundancy
only if it is accepted.
Quote from: Moonglow on April 20, 2010, 02:35:55 PM
only if it is accepted.
That would depend on which of the fence you're on. Mine and Hank's is rarely accepted no matter where we get it from.
Quote from: me on April 20, 2010, 02:45:36 PM
That would depend on which of the fence you're on. Mine and Hank's is rarely accepted no matter where we get it from.
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Uh oh....Dat be da whambulance comin' to take me away hahahehe....... :biggrin:
Quote from: Moonglow on April 20, 2010, 01:58:17 PM
I tend to be rather aggressive and forceful.
Lordy, lordy, lordy, boy am I glad your here. This close nit group of friend in this forum, like to jump on me all of the time. Maybe we can play tag-team with them.
While they're working on you, I'll get a a little rest.
Moonglow, since I didn't get to much help on how to use the forum and I still don't know to much about it now. Here one thing you might use. I like using the smiley faces. Go to help, find the smiley faces and make a copy of them. There are 19 pages. It worth the time.
Go Moonglow, :tiphat: :fireworks: :fireworks: :pink: :pink: :pink: :bsflag: :rifle: :deadhorse:
and :sarcasm:
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Quote from: me on April 20, 2010, 02:45:36 PM
That would depend on which of the fence you're on. Mine and Hank's is rarely accepted no matter where we get it from.
You sure can say this on that statement. :trustme: And I'll drink to that, :food5: :food5: :food5:
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thanks 4 the tips(y) :yes:
Hey, Unknown Zoner's where has Sara gone. Did she go down and look at the oil leak on those sugar white beachs.
There doen't seem such a loud scream and screech of DRILL BABY DRILL. DRILL BABY DRILL.
Will the Tea Bagger Party make a recovery after this. Hummmmmmmmmmmm. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
I like to throw "Drill Baby Drill" Palin right into the middle of the 'effin oil spill. :mad:
OMG! This very talkative woman that I work with named her cat Palin :spooked: and she knows that I'm a cat lover soooooo I have to hear about the adventures of super smart, extraordinary cat...Palin :puke:
How can I tell her that the cat deserves better?!0
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on May 07, 2010, 03:39:04 PM
OMG! This very talkative woman that I work with named her cat Palin :spooked: and she knows that I'm a cat lover soooooo I have to hear about the adventures of super smart, extraordinary cat...Palin :puke:
How can I tell her that the cat deserves better?!0
:biggrin:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on May 07, 2010, 03:39:04 PM
OMG! This very talkative woman that I work with named her cat Palin :spooked: and she knows that I'm a cat lover soooooo I have to hear about the adventures of super smart, extraordinary cat...Palin :puke:
How can I tell her that the cat deserves better?!0
Don't bother. Just fire the bitch. Believe me, it can be an incredible rush.
Quote from: LOsborne on May 07, 2010, 06:28:46 PM
Don't bother. Just fire the bitch. Believe me, it can be an incredible rush.
I've only had to fire two people in my life and I will have to admit getting a mini rush out of firing the drunk. Ya know, I've ran into him since and he not only apologized to me for showing up drunk but told me he deserved to be fired and would have done the same if he had been in my place. I had given him a couple of chances before I lowered the boom though. ;)
And now back to our regularly scheduled Palin bash fest. :rolleyes:
I fired a guy one time on the day before a hurricane was supposed to hit and one week prior to his wedding. I'm a heartless bastard. :icon_twisted:
I've never fired an individual who had not earned it, yet I also have never fired an individual and felt good about it either. . . Ever. . .
Me either :no:
But now come to think of it...she must be drunk or mentally ill if she actually admires Palin...she's a danger to herself and her coworkers...she's gotta go! ;D
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on May 07, 2010, 07:24:35 PM
Me either :no:
But now come to think of it...she must be drunk or mentally ill if she actually admires Palin...she's a danger to herself and her coworkers...she's gotta go! ;D
OR- - - - V(read signature line)
Quote from: Palehorse on May 07, 2010, 06:58:31 PM
I've never fired an individual who had not earned it, yet I also have never fired an individual and felt good about it either. . . Ever. . .
Really? I've never fired anybody who didn't know he was endangering his job by his behavior or performance. The fire-ee has received counseling, reprimands, been given a list of expectations and the consequences of failing to meet the expectations. So when I fire someone, he damned well chose it.
Laying someone off breaks my heart.
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Sara Palin Has A NEW BOOK :clap: :clap: :clap:
Could it break the meter.
:det:
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Quote from: The Troll on May 12, 2010, 03:58:03 PM
:pink: :pink: :pink: :pink: :pink: :pink: :pink: :pink:
Sara Palin Has A NEW BOOK :clap: :clap: :clap:
Could it break the meter.
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:fireworks: :fireworks: :fireworks: :fireworks: :fireworks: :fireworks: :fireworks:
It only sells as a few to those who can't read; her followers. The remaining majority of her books are bought up by insiders trying to make them look successful. She, and her books, are a joke.
Have you read one?
. . .Speaking at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in Charlotte, North Carolina, Palin claimed that some in the media have tried to portray members of the Tea Party movement as "violent or racist or rednecks."
"And I don't really have a problem with the redneck part of it, to tell you the truth. I don't," the former vice presidential candidate told the crowd. "That's fine with me."
Palin told the gun rights supporters how she recently searched online for the best redneck jokes to prepare for an appearance in Alabama where she was introduced by a radio personality named "Bubba."
"But, I'm reading them [thinking] these aren't funny, these are me," Palin said to laughter. "They really are."
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?fbid=qWQuFzQ04-P (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?fbid=qWQuFzQ04-P)
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Quote from: Palehorse on May 14, 2010, 07:31:00 PM
. . .Speaking at the National Rifle Association's annual meeting in Charlotte, North Carolina, Palin claimed that some in the media have tried to portray members of the Tea Party movement as "violent or racist or rednecks."
"And I don't really have a problem with the redneck part of it, to tell you the truth. I don't," the former vice presidential candidate told the crowd. "That's fine with me."
Palin told the gun rights supporters how she recently searched online for the best redneck jokes to prepare for an appearance in Alabama where she was introduced by a radio personality named "Bubba."
"But, I'm reading them [thinking] these aren't funny, these are me," Palin said to laughter. "They really are."
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?fbid=qWQuFzQ04-P (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?fbid=qWQuFzQ04-P)
(http://rlv.zcache.com/idiot_heres_your_sign_bumper_sticker-p128542684648076448trl0_400.jpg)
Even after Obama agreed the the guns laws were wrong in Washington DC. After Obama OKed the carring your our guns in our National Parks.
Palin says to the American Rife Association that Obama is just waiting to take our guns and ammunition away from us.
No lie is to great for dear old Sara Palin. She should be Sara the :toilet: plumber.
The Troll :flag: :no1: Just shooting Sara's dead horse. :deadhorse: :rifle:
Quote from: me on May 14, 2010, 11:47:13 AM
Have you read one?
"ME" how many copies have you bought and how many did you color in. I bet the would be good coloring books for the Young Republicans in high school and college. Maybe you could send one to George W., he isn't doing much these days. :kickcan:
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Quote from: The Troll on May 15, 2010, 10:54:06 PM
Even after Obama agreed the the guns laws were wrong in Washington DC. After Obama OKed the carring your our guns in our National Parks.
Palin says to the American Rife Association that Obama is just waiting to take our guns and ammunition away from us.
No lie is to great for dear old Sara Palin. She should be Sara the :toilet: plumber.
The Troll :flag: :no1: Just shooting Sara's dead horse. :deadhorse: :rifle:
I certainly have lost a lot of respect for the NRA over this too! Have they become so low as to hire this bimbo?! :rolleyes:
IMHO they are the firearms world's version of organized religion anymore. You belong all you ever hear from them is "give, give, give, give". Doesn't that mean all they are doing is "take, take, take, take"? . . .Sounds familiar. . .
Don't get me wrong, they are a voice for defending our freedom, but I am not prepared to start worshiping them. . .
You are judging her books I am not. How can you judge something you haven't read?
Quote from: The Troll on May 15, 2010, 11:08:16 PM
"ME" how many copies have you bought and how many did you color in. I bet the would be good coloring books for the Young Republicans in high school and college. Maybe you could send one to George W., he isn't doing much these days. :kickcan:
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I assume they are well written. No self-respecting publisher would let it go out w/out the editor and copy editor giving a complete review. They can make someone like Palin sound as if she has more than two active brain cells. Is it worth reading? Based on my knowledge of Sarah Palin, I doubt it.
So, "me" you champion her cause, why haven't you ordered a copy?
Quote from: me on May 16, 2010, 01:36:07 AM
You are judging her books I am not. How can you judge something you haven't read?
How come on "ME" I have never read the whole Bible, but through all of my mother's training and all of the church and bible school training, do you think I'm going to read it now. HELL NO.
Being an adult, of sound mind, over 21, living in a free country the United States of America serving time in the United States Army and have some true values of being an American. There no way I would in hell, I would read Sara Palin's, part time govenor of Alaska propaganda, you must have lost a gear if you had a gear.
Some how this air head has been put into Barby Doll status and to think she ran for the office of Vice President of the United States of American and all the most powerful country stands for.
It has to be a demonic joke.
I have seen her make an ass of herself over the last two years. In debates and interviews. The more I see of her the more I think of the old saying, if it walks like a duck and walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck, it must be a duck. Just put in Airhead in place of Duck and you have Sara Palin.
How anyone one could think she anything more than a pretty face, that person can't be wound to tightly themselves and to also vote for Sara Palin, Vice President of the United States of America is absolutly insane. Ending my statment with this.
NO I WOULDN'T BUY OR READ HER BOOK. :flap: :flap: :flap: :wacko: :jester:
Quote from: Palehorse on May 16, 2010, 12:32:17 AM
I certainly have lost a lot of respect for the NRA over this too! Have they become so low as to hire this bimbo?! :rolleyes:
IMHO they are the firearms world's version of organized religion anymore. You belong all you ever hear from them is "give, give, give, give". Doesn't that mean all they are doing is "take, take, take, take"? . . .Sounds familiar. . .
Don't get me wrong, they are a voice for defending our freedom, but I am not prepared to start worshiping them. . .
PaleHorse, I had been a member of the NRA, many years a go. Every time I would send them a donation I would start to receive floods of request of money from all kind of organizations.
So one year I change my middle name to K and sent in my donation. Guess what, all of the requests I got for donations after that had K for my middle name. The bastard's were selling my name. They never got another dime and now they are a arm of the Republican Party. It's not about freedom of arms anymore it's about electing Republicans.
That's what I thought. You're bad mouthing something based on what other people say rather than thinking for yourself. Don't even start with me about doing that when you have just admitted to it. That is what is referred to as a double standard which seems to run amok with the Dems.
Quote from: The Troll on May 16, 2010, 07:51:50 AM
How come on "ME" I have never read the whole Bible, but through all of my mother's training and all of the church and bible school training, do you think I'm going to read it now. HELL NO.
Being an adult, of sound mind, over 21, living in a free country the United States of America serving time in the United States Army and have some true values of being an American. There no way I would in hell, I would read Sara Palin's, part time govenor of Alaska propaganda, you must have lost a gear if you had a gear.
Some how this air head has been put into Barby Doll status and to think she ran for the office of Vice President of the United States of American and all the most powerful country stands for.
It has to be a demonic joke.
I have seen her make an ass of herself over the last two years. In debates and interviews. The more I see of her the more I think of the old saying, if it walks like a duck and walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck, it must be a duck. Just put in Airhead in place of Duck and you have Sara Palin.
How anyone one could think she anything more than a pretty face, that person can't be wound to tightly themselves and to also vote for Sara Palin, Vice President of the United States of America is absolutly insane. Ending my statment with this.
NO I WOULDN'T BUY OR READ HER BOOK. :flap: :flap: :flap: :wacko: :jester:
Quote from: me on May 16, 2010, 10:55:50 AM
That's what I thought. You're bad mouthing something based on what other people say rather than thinking for yourself. Don't even start with me about doing that when you have just admitted to it. That is what is referred to as a double standard which seems to run amok with the Dems.
Tell me what is so damn redeeming about her book. I know she can see Russia from Alaska. I guess she Moose hunts. But the father of her grandchild says she didn't much of that and the Chief that the state of Alaska paid for, said she didn't cook that much either.
But tell me this. How on earth could you, yes you, vote for her as Vice President. She might be a good mother, some say. But she sure is not a world leader. She an idiot in world affairs.
You got to be kidding, Sara Palin as Vice President. I'll tell you what, I'll read her book if you read one of mine. "Supercapitialism" by Robert Reich or John Dean's "Broken Government". How here are two authors.
"ME" voting for Sara Palin for Vice President. What were you thinking. :flap: :flap: :flap: :rotfl:
The Troll :tiphat:
Got a question for ya Troll. Would you be in favor of free enterprise?
Quote from: The Troll on May 16, 2010, 12:31:42 PM
Tell me what is so damn redeeming about her book. I know she can see Russia from Alaska. I guess she Moose hunts. But the father of her grandchild says she didn't much of that and the Chief that the state of Alaska paid for, said she didn't cook that much either.
But tell me this. How on earth could you, yes you, vote for her as Vice President. She might be a good mother, some say. But she sure is not a world leader. She an idiot in world affairs.
You got to be kidding, Sara Palin as Vice President. I'll tell you what, I'll read her book if you read one of mine. "Supercapitialism" by Robert Reich or John Dean's "Broken Government". How here are two authors.
"ME" voting for Sara Palin for Vice President. What were you thinking. :flap: :flap: :flap: :rotfl:
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Quote from: me on May 16, 2010, 12:41:44 PM
Got a question for ya Troll. Would you be in favor of free enterprise?
Just like a woman, I'm not a mind reader. You are going to have to ask me a more intelligent question.
Free Enterprise cover a lot of things. please be a little more clear. If it against Predatory Super Rich capitalist running this country into the ground at our expense. Your god damn right, I am against it. We need government regulations to stop these robber barons and only the government is powerful enough to stop them. I suppose you don't even want that. Let they steal us blind.
Just like we need government regulations to control the Super Rich and Super Polluting oil corporations.
So what you're saying in other words is than there should be no more private businesses, (enterprise), because some owner might be lucky enough to get rich and actually have more than someone else. Am I understanding correctly? That, to me, means that the constitutional right to the pursuit of happiness will no longer exist because that is the American dream. There will also be no more liberty because the freedom to chose to have a business will no longer be what it once was because the liberty to run it without intervention from the government will have been taken away. So life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness will have been stricken from the constitution. Yes, it will effect what you will be paid too because the government wants to have a say in salaries and not just the CEO's but right down to what the average worker is paid. Problem is there will be no more incentive for anyone to have any kind of business since they can't make money so more and more businesses will close or move away. If you pay close attention you are seeing it happen.
Quote from: me on May 17, 2010, 12:44:26 AM
So what you're saying in other words is than there should be no more private businesses, (enterprise), because some owner might be lucky enough to get rich and actually have more than someone else. Am I understanding correctly? That, to me, means that the constitutional right to the pursuit of happiness will no longer exist because that is the American dream. There will also be no more liberty because the freedom to chose to have a business will no longer be what it once was because the liberty to run it without intervention from the government will have been taken away. So life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness will have been stricken from the constitution. Yes, it will effect what you will be paid too because the government wants to have a say in salaries and not just the CEO's but right down to what the average worker is paid. Problem is there will be no more incentive for anyone to have any kind of business since they can't make money so more and more businesses will close or move away. If you pay close attention you are seeing it happen.
You are out of your freeking mind. No where did I say that I want to stop Capitailism. Free enterprise.
What I want STOPPED IS CRIMINAL CAPITALIST. The people who steal, rob, brib, lie, and take advantage of people, because their to big to fail.
Before I :rant: anymore. Tell me "ME" what is so wrong with Troll's thinking that he against criminal predatory capitalist. (white collar crime)
No Bullshit, tell me "ME" what is so wrong with that.
Quote from: The Troll on May 17, 2010, 09:22:42 AM
You are out of your freeking mind. No where did I say that I want to stop Capitailism. Free enterprise.
What I want STOPPED IS CRIMINAL CAPITALIST. The people who steal, rob, brib, lie, and take advantage of people, because their to big to fail.
Before I :rant: anymore. Tell me "ME" what is so wrong with Troll's thinking that he against criminal predatory capitalist. (white collar crime)
No Bullshit, tell me "ME" what is so wrong with that.
Then the government should have stayed out of their business and let them fail instead of propping them up with more money, our money. After what Bush gave them didn't work Obama should have never released anymore funds to them. He should have told them sorry 'bout your bad luck but someone else will take over where you are leaving off which is what would have happened.
What in hell is wrong with your thinking. These people failed because they were committing fraud. They had set up fraudulent derives, phony realestate deals and fraudant stock deals. They were crooks. And you want them to fail, walk away from what they did Scott free and come back and do it all over again. You are a total dumbass.
The conman who set up these deals walked away with millions and millions of dollars, the only people who lost were were the stockholders and the people who bought these fraudulent derives, stocks and bonds. All on lies and phony information made up by them. You just got to be nuts.
Just like BP and the things this crooked company has done, with cost cutting in safety and mismanagement, leading up to the mess in the Gulf. You probably think poor old BP they just made a simple mistake. Let's let them off. They won't do anything this again if we just let it go.
I say take all of these crook's money, property, cars, and everything they got and put them in prison and never let them handle anyone's money or property and never be an authority in any personal or business public or private.
Tell me how you would take care of the crooks.
They were bailed out which was rewarding them. They should have been allowed to fail not bailed out. Who got punished? We did by having to bail their sorry asses out. They could have just as easily, and a lot cheaper I might add, given the money to the people who were scammed to help them keep their homes and told the banks to stick it.
Quote from: The Troll on May 17, 2010, 03:43:37 PM
What in hell is wrong with your thinking. These people failed because they were committing fraud. They had set up fraudulent derives, phony realestate deals and fraudant stock deals. They were crooks. And you want them to fail, walk away from what they did Scott free and come back and do it all over again. You are a total dumbass.
The conman who set up these deals walked away with millions and millions of dollars, the only people who lost were were the stockholders and the people who bought these fraudulent derives, stocks and bonds. All on lies and phony information made up by them. You just got to be nuts.
Just like BP and the things this crooked company has done, with cost cutting in safety and mismanagement, leading up to the mess in the Gulf. You probably think poor old BP they just made a simple mistake. Let's let them off. They won't do anything this again if we just let it go.
I say take all of these crook's money, property, cars, and everything they got and put them in prison and never let them handle anyone's money or property and never be an authority in any personal or business public or private.
Tell me how you would take care of the crooks.
Quote from: me on May 17, 2010, 06:57:25 PM
They were bailed out which was rewarding them. They should have been allowed to fail not bailed out. Who got punished? We did by having to bail their sorry asses out. They could have just as easily, and a lot cheaper I might add, given the money to the people who were scammed to help them keep their homes and told the banks to stick it.
I can see you don't and wouldn't punish the criminals. Let the corporations do anything they want. I wouldn't want to live under you flag. :bsflag:
I give up, your are brain dead. :uncle: :uncle: :uncle: I sure wouldn't want to live in a country run by you and ilk.
The Troll :gha: :groan:
I can't believe we're still talking about this. Yes, she's stupid and no one can really deny that...not with a straight face anyway. :biggrin:
How is bailing them out punishing them?
Quote from: The Troll on May 17, 2010, 07:16:30 PM
I can see you don't and wouldn't punish the criminals. Let the corporations do anything they want. I wouldn't want to live under you flag. :bsflag:
I give up, your are brain dead. :uncle: :uncle: :uncle: I sure wouldn't want to live in a country run by you and ilk.
The Troll :gha: :groan:
:pink: :pink: :pink: :pink: :pink: :pink: :pink: :pink:
Sara's daughter is going to start to give speeches.
$15,000 To $30,000
About unmarried mothers. Right to life. And other terribly important things.
:bliss: :bliss: :bliss: :bliss: :bliss:
Riding momma's petticoats. . . :rolleyes:
Quote from: Palehorse on May 18, 2010, 07:47:48 PM
Riding momma's petticoats. . . :rolleyes:
With her's lifted, riding whatever...(based on her last choice of boyfriends). ;>)
Quote from: dan foster on May 23, 2010, 09:25:02 PM
With her's lifted, riding whatever...(based on her last choice of boyfriends). ;>)
:biggrin:
Drill baby drill! :biggrin:
:spooked:
LMAO! :biggrin:
That's funny ;D
and so wrong! :biggrin:
OMG...I have to reprint everything in front of me.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on May 17, 2010, 07:49:03 PM
I can't believe we're still talking about this. Yes, she's stupid and no one can really deny that...not with a straight face anyway. :biggrin:
and yet, I would take her as Commander-in-Chief any day, over what we currently have.....ANY DAY!!
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 24, 2010, 12:42:43 PM
and yet, I would take her as Commander-in-Chief any day, over what we currently have.....ANY DAY!!
You really have no clue how badly that reflects on your intellect. :no:
Quote from: Locutus on May 24, 2010, 12:55:33 PM
You really have no clue how badly that reflects on your intellect. :no:
no more than MOST of the posts on 90% of the topics on this forum....it is SO f'ing liberal biased it is ridicules, and hypocritical....and one-sided and it makes me sick to see some of the most asinine posts I have EVER read on this forum...has all been posted in the last two months....
I'm not worried about MY intellect in front of ANY one here....
Quote from: Locutus on May 24, 2010, 12:55:33 PM
You really have no clue how badly that reflects on your intellect. :no:
Since you didn't ask for an Amen I'm going to give you one anyway. Amen, Brother Locutus.
The Troll :flag: :flag: :salute:
Well then, let's just take your sanctimonious advise, set the gulf on fire, impeach the POTUS and put a womanizing and hypocritical corporate thug in his place, close down all the banks and manufacturing facilities, cut off unemployment, and declare marshall law on anyone without a job. Yeah, lets just kick tens of millions of people out of their homes, shoot them on sight if they are caught outside after dark, and while we're at it, put a bunch of yes men and women into key administrative and congressional positions throughout the country too, that way they can enact local policies to force everyone left with employment to have to shop at the corporate stores and pay more for everything.
Let's pull all of our men and women in the military from every single base and theatre of operations around the globe, bring them home, and redeploy them to the borders of this country with orders to shoot to kill anyone attempting to cross the border. Let's also empower state militia's to run about confirming the citizenship of anyone they may find suspicious, and allow them to summarily execute anyone who cannot prove it.
Lets burn the friggin Constitution and rewrite it using the bible. Then we need to empower the church to convert anyone not practicing Christianity by any means necessary, including torture and maiming. It's time to bring the law of the old testament into play and make it the law of the land. Any corporate activity that results in an environmental disaster is obviously the people's fault, so let them pay for it. Let them clean it up. Let them suffer the consequences. Let them give more each Sunday.
Lets eliminate all corporate taxation, after all this is the people's government so let them pay for it.
Lets make Christianity the official religion of this country and execute anyone that doesn't support it and practice it.
Let's add to the drill baby, drill campaign, and include kill baby, kill too!
Let's allow the economy to collapse along with the financial district and manufacturing, and just live off the proceeds of the 2% of the world's oil we own for the next 8 years, killing anyone and anything that gets in our way. Lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way shall be our creed, and we'll kill to achieve it; the economy, the people, the wildlife, the environment, none of it matters to us any longer. Drill baby, drill - kill baby, kill! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
:preach: :preach: brother Paleface. If nobody will say Amen, let The Troll be the first. Amen, Brothe Paleface. :flag: :frag: :frag:
Quote from: Palehorse on May 24, 2010, 01:47:46 PM
Well then, let's just take your sanctimonious advise, set the gulf on fire, impeach the POTUS and put a womanizing and hypocritical corporate thug in his place, close down all the banks and manufacturing facilities, cut off unemployment, and declare marshall law on anyone without a job. Yeah, lets just kick tens of millions of people out of their homes, shoot them on sight if they are caught outside after dark, and while we're at it, put a bunch of yes men and women into key administrative and congressional positions throughout the country too, that way they can enact local policies to force everyone left with employment to have to shop at the corporate stores and pay more for everything.
Let's pull all of our men and women in the military from every single base and theatre of operations around the globe, bring them home, and redeploy them to the borders of this country with orders to shoot to kill anyone attempting to cross the border. Let's also empower state militia's to run about confirming the citizenship of anyone they may find suspicious, and allow them to summarily execute anyone who cannot prove it.
Lets burn the friggin Constitution and rewrite it using the bible. Then we need to empower the church to convert anyone not practicing Christianity by any means necessary, including torture and maiming. It's time to bring the law of the old testament into play and make it the law of the land. Any corporate activity that results in an environmental disaster is obviously the people's fault, so let them pay for it. Let them clean it up. Let them suffer the consequences. Let them give more each Sunday.
Lets eliminate all corporate taxation, after all this is the people's government so let them pay for it.
Lets make Christianity the official religion of this country and execute anyone that doesn't support it and practice it.
Let's add to the drill baby, drill campaign, and include kill baby, kill too!
Let's allow the economy to collapse along with the financial district and manufacturing, and just live off the proceeds of the 2% of the world's oil we own for the next 8 years, killing anyone and anything that gets in our way. Lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way shall be our creed, and we'll kill to achieve it; the economy, the people, the wildlife, the environment, none of it matters to us any longer. Drill baby, drill - kill baby, kill! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
see you are full of shit........
1. Never said anything about setting the gulf on fire.....it was talked about, but it was not repub/dem thing.
2. Never said I wanted to "impeach" this president...just want him to NOT be there more than four years.
3. A corporate thug, is just an liberal talking point used to demonize ANY one not a liberal.
4. Who want's to close ALL the Banks? (another scare tactic that you fell for by the left)
5. Show me in the Constituition where our government should "buy" auto industries, banks, teachers unions, school loans, etc.
6. I don't think we could do much worse on unemployement than the current 10%!!! ... Bush was at 6% with a so-called bad economy.
7. You guys passed a law to "protect" home owners, yet, last month we had a record amount of foreclosures...(Nice Bill)
8. "shoot them on site if they ae cought outside after dark?.....wtf?....
9. Obama has NOTHING but, "yes men" working for him now!!!..
10. you are really talking out of your ass, you sound JUST like Chris Matthews....( maybe you should stop watching MSNBC and try a little FoxNews for a change!!!)
hey, the bottom line IS....Obama SUCKS!!...he is nothing more than a one-term senator, who went on Oprah and got her viewers all jiggy with him....and NOW, he is the POTUS and over his head on how to deal with things....THAT is exactly what is going on right now....and that is why his approval rating is NOW at 44%...
that tyrade you just displayed is EXACTLY, verbatem....what the left want's it sheep to think.....congrats, you just won an obama gold star!!....
can i hear an amen?... :confused: ..oh, that's right you guys are a bunch o God hating, Christian hating bigots, I forgot!!... :razz: (http://theunknownzone.us/smf/Smileys3/default/patriot.gif)
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 24, 2010, 03:38:01 PM
see you are full of shit........
1. Never said anything about setting the gulf on fire.....it was talked about, but it was not repub/dem thing.
2. Never said I wanted to "impeach" this president...just want him to NOT be there more than four years.
3. A corporate thug, is just an liberal talking point used to demonize ANY one not a liberal.
4. Who want's to close ALL the Banks? (another scare tactic that you fell for by the left)
5. Show me in the Constituition where our government should "buy" auto industries, banks, teachers unions, school loans, etc.
6. I don't think we could do much worse on unemployement than the current 10%!!! ... Bush was at 6% with a so-called bad economy.
7. You guys passed a law to "protect" home owners, yet, last month we had a record amount of foreclosures...(Nice Bill)
8. "shoot them on site if they ae cought outside after dark?.....wtf?....
9. Obama has NOTHING but, "yes men" working for him now!!!..
10. you are really talking out of your ass, you sound JUST like Chris Matthews....( maybe you should stop watching MSNBC and try a little FoxNews for a change!!!)
hey, the bottom line IS....Obama SUCKS!!...he is nothing more than a one-term senator, who went on Oprah and got her viewers all jiggy with him....and NOW, he is the POTUS and over his head on how to deal with things....THAT is exactly what is going on right now....and that is why his approval rating is NOW at 44%...
that tyrade you just displayed is EXACTLY, verbatem....what the left want's it sheep to think.....congrats, you just won an obama gold star!!....
can i hear an amen?... :confused: ..oh, that's right you guys are a bunch o God hating, Christian hating bigots, I forgot!!... :razz: (http://theunknownzone.us/smf/Smileys3/default/patriot.gif)
If I am full of shit it is the shit you keep shoveling around and throwing in everyone's face; you and your ilk.
I'm just saying, burn the flag and lets put the Burger King guy on it in its place. You guys want it your way, you can have it.
What time is my appointment with the firing squad? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
the shit is from the dem controlled house, the dem controlled senate and the dem controlled white house.....george bush is gone, and there are no more excuses, so you guy jump on Sarah Palin and Rand Paul and the tea party and say that THEY are stirring shit!!!
f'ng amazing!! really it is simply f'ng amazing the bull shit that the dems have created....blame everyone but themselves...THAT is the only SHIT that is being flung.
I am only firing back after having shit thrown my way for way too long.....I'm tired of it, so I am merely mirroring what has been thrown at me....
it is YOU guys who need to adopt the BK motto....because there has been NO bridge building, or trying to reach out to the other side...it has ALL be Obama's way....and when the people of this country started forming tea parties to call him out on it....you guys get pissed and start demonizing everything that is NOT pro obama....
his days and YOUR ilk are numbered....
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 24, 2010, 04:05:37 PM
the shit is from the dem controlled house, the dem controlled senate and the dem controlled white house.....george bush is gone, and there are no more excuses, so you guy jump on Sarah Palin and Rand Paul and the tea party and say that THEY are stirring shit!!!
f'ng amazing!! really it is simply f'ng amazing the bull shit that the dems have created....blame everyone but themselves...THAT is the only SHIT that is being flung.
Yeah, as if the republicans aren't practicing obstructionist politics and more bull shit slinging than their golden idol BP is pouring oil into the gulf. . . :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
You act as if the POTUS and Democratic party can do anything they want, when the exact opposite is the truth. You're just parroting your party lines bud, while I am thinking for myself. . .
But cal it whatever you like. It's your country now. Just let me know what time to report to the death squad. . .
Quote from: Palehorse on May 24, 2010, 04:13:10 PM
Yeah, as if the republicans aren't practicing obstructionist politics and more bull shit slinging than their golden idol BP is pouring oil into the gulf. . . :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
You act as if the POTUS and Democratic party can do anything they want, when the exact opposite is the truth. You're just parroting your party lines bud, while I am thinking for myself. . .
But cal it whatever you like. It's your country now. Just let me know what time to report to the death squad. . .
unfortunately, we got two more years to fight for our constitution....maybe you should try to read it sometime....OH, I forgot, you think for yourself, so you can just "modify" the constitution to how ever best suites you, huh?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 24, 2010, 04:15:32 PM
unfortunately, we got two more years to fight for our constitution....maybe you should try to read it sometime....OH, I forgot, you think for yourself, so you can just "modify" the constitution to how ever best suites you, huh?
What constitution? The one you guys are burning you mean? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: The POTUS and the current administration aren't burning the constitution, the SCOTUS is along with you ditto-headed sheeple of the brown shirted tea party. . .
You'd better tuck that thing away because in 8 years once you guys are done with your drill baby, drill approach and we deplete our oil, all of it, you are going to need to burn it to keep your punk asses warm the following winter. . .
how much will it cost to heat YOUR punk asses if we quit "drilling baby"....try heating your punk ass with a windmill...
you libs sure can bitch about things but don't have any other answers but..............
"let find some unicorns and rainbows and make this world a better place"....
we STILL need to drill...............and btw, maybe if you treehuggers wouldn't have bitched a fit about drilling on land, we would NOT have had to rely so much on off-shore drilling....
face it, until we find another solution ....OIL is the best we have right now.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 24, 2010, 04:33:21 PM
how much will it cost to heat YOUR punk asses if we quit "drilling baby"....try heating your punk ass with a windmill...
"We" don't have to worry about that. We'll be lined up and shot soon by the brown shirted tea party.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 24, 2010, 04:33:21 PM
you libs sure can bitch about things but don't have any other answers but..............
"let find some unicorns and rainbows and make this world a better place"....
we STILL need to drill...............and btw, maybe if you treehuggers wouldn't have bitched a fit about drilling on land, we would NOT have had to rely so much on off-shore drilling....
face it, until we find another solution ....OIL is the best we have right now.
2% of the entire world's supply of oil will last us exactly 8 years. Then what? If we stay where we are surrounding "production" it may last long enough to allow you and I to be fertilizer before it happens, but our kids and grandkids will be left to find the replacement or pay the price. So you're okay with that? And those millions of barrels now floating in the gulf and destined for a shoreline near you????
No, taking an environmental approach toward the path this country pursues moving forward is the ONLY solution that is acceptable to me, and it should be for you too. But it won't be because you have Texas Tea fever and believe what the good oil barons tell you to. . .
Quote from: Palehorse on May 24, 2010, 04:13:10 PM
Yeah, as if the republicans aren't practicing obstructionist politics and more bull shit slinging than their golden idol BP is pouring oil into the gulf. . . :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
You act as if the POTUS and Democratic party can do anything they want, when the exact opposite is the truth. You're just parroting your party lines bud, while I am thinking for myself. . .
But cal it whatever you like. It's your country now. Just let me know what time to report to the death squad. . .
Please explain how the Republicans can be obstructionists when they are in the minority and have been for almost 4yrs now. It isn't their fault some of the dems also don't agree with what's going on and vote with the Republicans. You can't have it both ways ya know. Also why is it now the Republican's or congress' fault everything is going down the tubes but and none of it is Obama and when Bush was in office it was Bush who was at fault no matter what, not congress, not the dems, just Bush.
Quote from: me on May 24, 2010, 04:46:34 PM
Please explain how the Republicans can be obstructionists when they are in the minority and have been for almost 4yrs now. It isn't their fault some of the dems also don't agree with what's going on and vote with the Republicans. You can't have it both ways ya know. Also why is it now the Republican's or congress' fault everything is going down the tubes but and none of it is Obama and when Bush was in office it was Bush who was at fault no matter what, not congress, not the dems, just Bush.
because THAT is what the Obama administration is telling everyone, that it is Bush's fault!!..and ALL the koolade drinkers believe them.....becasue they cannot think for themselves...the just listen to what they are being told....don't ca know that me?
Quote from: Palehorse on May 24, 2010, 04:45:00 PM
"We" don't have to worry about that. We'll be lined up and shot soon by the brown shirted tea party.
2% of the entire world's supply of oil will last us exactly 8 years. Then what? If we stay where we are surrounding "production" it may last long enough to allow you and I to be fertilizer before it happens, but our kids and grandkids will be left to find the replacement or pay the price. So you're okay with that? And those millions of barrels now floating in the gulf and destined for a shoreline near you????
No, taking an environmental approach toward the path this country pursues moving forward is the ONLY solution that is acceptable to me, and it should be for you too. But it won't be because you have Texas Tea fever and believe what the good oil barons tell you to. . .
so, what you are telling me is, that IF, we quit drilling.....ALL DRILLING....off shore or on shore, it will only cost a 2% increase?.........hell, we are going to pay way more than that becasue congress is NOW wanting to raise taxes on OIL another 32 cents per barrell, and That won't effect us at the pumps either will it...they say that money will go to help finacne clean ups.....(my ass!!)...that money will never go to one person or sea turtle, it will end up in the UAW or Acorn or someplace else....I can bet on that....because I though Obama said BP will pay for ALL of this....am I right or wrong?
Quote from: me on May 24, 2010, 04:46:34 PM
Please explain how the Republicans can be obstructionists when they are in the minority and have been for almost 4yrs now. It isn't their fault some of the dems also don't agree with what's going on and vote with the Republicans. You can't have it both ways ya know. Also why is it now the Republican's or congress' fault everything is going down the tubes but and none of it is Obama and when Bush was in office it was Bush who was at fault no matter what, not congress, not the dems, just Bush.
filibuster |ˈfiləˌbəstər|
noun
1 an action such as a prolonged speech that obstructs progress in a legislative assembly while not technically contravening the required procedures
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 24, 2010, 04:53:52 PM
so, what you are telling me is, that IF, we quit drilling.....ALL DRILLING....off shore or on shore, it will only cost a 2% increase?.........hell, we are going to pay way more than that becasue congress is NOW wanting to raise taxes on OIL another 32 cents per barrell, and That won't effect us at the pumps either will it...they say that money will go to help finacne clean ups.....(my ass!!)...that money will never go to one person or sea turtle, it will end up in the UAW or Acorn or someplace else....I can bet on that....because I though Obama said BP will pay for ALL of this....am I right or wrong?
No, that is not what I am saying. . .
Lets see. . . Suppose every single drop of oil in the entire world amounted to 1 - 55 gallon drum. The amount in that drum that would represent what the United States owns would equate to 1.1 gallon of the entire content; with the rest belonging to others.
So, once we burn through it by accelerating our use of it, it will be gone. The best experts out there (from the industry itself), estimates that if we ramped up production from those sources at the end of 8 years it will all be gone. Then what will we do??
The fact is increasing US production will do nothing to positively influence pricing, in bulk or at consumer levels, even if we were able to magically withdraw every single drop in an hour, it would still only be 2% of what is available in the world, and not enough to influence pricing or supply world wide. (Why aren't you getting that point?) And increasing production will only accelerate the eventual outcome in any event, which leaves the US at the mercy of the world unless alternative fuels and methods are identified and implemented.
As this nation sits here watching millions of gallons of crude spew into the gulf, that end of supply date is being drawn in even closer. . . and we are pissing it away, (or rather BP is) , as if it is nothing. And the reality is to BP it is nothing. They've got bigger and more profitable fields to suck dry elsewhere in the world. . .
The fact is the prices we are seeing are never going to get any better, and in fact will get even worse as time goes by, and until the alternative is identified this country has a bright shiny nose ring to be led around by. This country is so addicted to it that we are going to have to be forced to pursue alternative venues or we will NEVER do it until it is too late.
Just the fact we are watching our country be environmentally slaughtered by that mid ocean gusher, and still hear voices crying drill baby drill despite it, should be example enough to validate the level of addiction this country suffers from.
Quote from: Palehorse on May 24, 2010, 04:54:31 PM
filibuster |ˈfiləˌbəstər|
noun
1 an action such as a prolonged speech that obstructs progress in a legislative assembly while not technically contravening the required procedures
Tell me, how many fillibusters has the republicans used since Obama has been elected....I know they have threatened but actually fillibustered?, I would like to see.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 24, 2010, 04:33:21 PMhow much will it cost to heat YOUR punk asses if we quit "drilling baby"....try heating your punk ass with a windmill... you libs sure can bitch about things but don't have any other answers but.............. "let find some unicorns and rainbows and make this world a better place".... we STILL need to drill...............and btw, maybe if you treehuggers wouldn't have bitched a fit about drilling on land, we would NOT have had to rely so much on off-shore drilling.... face it, until we find another solution ....OIL is the best we have right now.
Henry, listening to you is like reading and taking it as the truth is, Alice in Wonderland.
I have never seen a worse case of Paranoia. I think you're losing it. You really have a problem of thinking that everybody is after you. Everything is a conspiracy. The Democrats are out to destroy this country and it's Constitution. Not true.
The Democrats are out to get our guns and destroy the Christian control of this country. I would like for they to get religion out of government. But the Democrats that are in power are not after Christians or guns, no, we like our guns too.
The other day you said you needed a vacation. Well, before you do, you need to go to this website and start reading about yourself.
http://www.wickihow.com/stop-being-paranoid.
You want to blame Obama for this Republican Cluster F*#k. Just how would your old John McCain and your dumbass Sara Palin would handle this mess. Sara to the front and lead us out of this mess. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: You got to be kidding me.
The Troll, after reading you, I think I need a drink :shots:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 24, 2010, 05:19:04 PM
Tell me, how many fillibusters has the republicans used since Obama has been elected....I know they have threatened but actually fillibustered?, I would like to see.
There were 77 just before the end of the 4th quarter last year alone, but I'll give you a good example of the shit republicans are doing:
Earlier this year the Senate majority had filed 58 cloture motions requiring 32 recorded votes. One of the more outrageous cases involved an extension in unemployment benefits, a no-brainer in light of the dismal economy. The bill ultimately cleared the Senate by 98-0 -- yes, that is a zero.
The vote came only after the Republicans launched three filibusters against the bill and also tried to lard it with unrelated amendments, delaying passage by nearly a month. And you wonder why nothing is getting done???? :rant: :rant: :rant:
Geez, an American Government lesson, PH? I woulda though these fogeys woulda had that in high school.
Then again, they endorse Palin, goes to show they're a couple nuggets short of a happy meal..we can't expect much... ;D
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 24, 2010, 05:19:04 PM
Tell me, how many fillibusters has the republicans used since Obama has been elected....I know they have threatened but actually fillibustered?, I would like to see.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/01/gop-filibuster-record-rep_n_480722.html
In the 110th Congress of 2007-2008, with Republicans in the minority, there were a record 112 cloture votes. In the current session of Congress – the 111th – for all of 2009 and the first two months of 2010 the number already exceeds 40. The most the filibuster has been used when Democrats were in the minority was 58 times in the 106th Congress of 1999-2000.You have to search for cloture votes, not filibusters, Henry. But one of the really interesting things I found in this search was this:
Brown broke the Democratic 60-seat majority before the two chambers could meld differences in their bills for a final vote in both houses.
However, one of Brown's first votes after taking office saw him joining four other Republicans to help Democrats break a threatened filibuster by his party's leaders against a job bill.Ya just never can tell about those Massachusetts guys. (I
knew they really elected another Kennedy.) Of course, maybe Scott Brown was bright enough to realize party unity was stupid when unemployment stands in double digits. Hope he manages to infect a few other of the goose-stepping GOP with the ability to recognize and support what is important for the country, rather than what hurts the other party.
Well shit Lolly. . . you keep doing their homework for them how are they ever going to regain all the knowledge they've pissed away since high school?! :biggrin:
The brain is just another muscle in your body, and either you use it or you lose it!
I love the Huffington Post they're soooo truthful and bipartisan. :rolleyes:
Quote from: me on May 24, 2010, 07:13:14 PM
What did they filibuster? I remember the dem's doing that when Bush was in office.
Anything and everything, including unemployment extensions. . . They even did it to their own legislation! Now if that doesn't validate the fact they are practicing obstructionist legislation I don't know what will! :rolleyes: :mad:
And, it was the republicans doing it under Bush as well! :yes: Check out the link in Lolly's post.
Ya HH we all know how accurate the Huffington Post is. Ya want the real news just pick up a copy. :rolleyes:
Quote from: me on May 24, 2010, 07:29:26 PM
Ya HH we all know how accurate the Huffington Post is. Ya want the real news just pick up a copy. :rolleyes:
Do your own homework if you don't like the source. The fact is a quick search of the congressional record will clearly show that the information is not only accurate but true. . . But then, you might have to do a little work. . . all that clickin', and data entry, then actually have to read???? !!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Quote from: me on May 24, 2010, 07:29:26 PM
Ya HH we all know how accurate the Huffington Post is. Ya want the real news just pick up a copy. :rolleyes:
Well, I never caught them in a lie. But if your only source of knowledge is Fox News, you have been lied to and if they didn't lie to you, they left in out and did tell your about all of the F*%kups the Republican are doing or have done. They are baldface liers and deceivers. Oh, by the way, have you bought any gold from Glen Beck, I hope your bought a whole lot. :rotfl:
The Troll :trustme:
Quote from: Palehorse on May 24, 2010, 06:38:42 PM
Well shit Lolly. . . you keep doing their homework for them how are they ever going to regain all the knowledge they've pissed away since high school?! :biggrin:
The brain is just another muscle in your body, and either you use it or you lose it!
Can't help it, PH. I do curls in my sleep.
Quote from: LOsborne on May 24, 2010, 09:17:59 PM
Can't help it, PH. I do curls in my sleep.
:biggrin:
Sleep? What's that?
Quote from: Palehorse on May 24, 2010, 05:32:35 PM
There were 77 just before the end of the 4th quarter last year alone, but I'll give you a good example of the shit republicans are doing:
Earlier this year the Senate majority had filed 58 cloture motions requiring 32 recorded votes. One of the more outrageous cases involved an extension in unemployment benefits, a no-brainer in light of the dismal economy. The bill ultimately cleared the Senate by 98-0 -- yes, that is a zero.
The vote came only after the Republicans launched three filibusters against the bill and also tried to lard it with unrelated amendments, delaying passage by nearly a month. And you wonder why nothing is getting done???? :rant: :rant: :rant:
The ONLY reason why nothing is getting done is none other than the lack of leadership....PERIOD!!!....between Obama, Pelosi and Reid, they have destroyed the trust of even those on thier own party.......go ahead and blame others, but THOSE are clearly our elected and chosen leaders, and they have lied and manipulated so much and THAT is why the popularity rating of congress is near single digits......
but I'm sure Bush is why they can't lead...
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 25, 2010, 08:08:32 AM
The ONLY reason why nothing is getting done is none other than the lack of leadership....PERIOD!!!....between Obama, Pelosi and Reid, they have destroyed the trust of even those on thier own party.......go ahead and blame others, but THOSE are clearly our elected and chosen leaders, and they have lied and manipulated so much and THAT is why the popularity rating of congress is near single digits......
but I'm sure Bush is why they can't lead...
I think the're going a good job, considering the frigging mess George W. and the Republicans left.
It's a real hard job to turn shit into gold. Henry.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 25, 2010, 08:08:32 AM
The ONLY reason why nothing is getting done is none other than the lack of leadership....PERIOD!!!....between Obama, Pelosi and Reid, they have destroyed the trust of even those on thier own party.......go ahead and blame others, but THOSE are clearly our elected and chosen leaders, and they have lied and manipulated so much and THAT is why the popularity rating of congress is near single digits......
but I'm sure Bush is why they can't lead...
That right there is a prime example of how the brown shirts think and act. When presented with proof that supports the position of their opposition, they fall back upon parroting of the party propaganda instead of trying to understand the root cause of an issue and seeking remediation of the problem(s).
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 25, 2010, 08:08:32 AM
The ONLY reason why nothing is getting done is none other than the lack of leadership....PERIOD!!!....between Obama, Pelosi and Reid, they have destroyed the trust of even those on thier own party.......go ahead and blame others, but THOSE are clearly our elected and chosen leaders, and they have lied and manipulated so much and THAT is why the popularity rating of congress is near single digits......
but I'm sure Bush is why they can't lead...
What would you do Henry, besides cutting taxes and turning the corporations, banks and the stockmart lose. Cut taxes, Cut taxes, Cut taxes, Cut taxes the only thing a single "minded" person can think of. :flap: :flap: :flap: :o
Quote from: Palehorse on May 25, 2010, 08:45:55 AM
That right there is a prime example of how the brown shirts think and act. When presented with proof that supports the position of their opposition, they fall back upon parroting of the party propaganda instead of trying to understand the root cause of an issue and seeking remediation of the problem(s).
that is EXACTLY what YOU are doing....
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 25, 2010, 11:21:40 AM
that is EXACTLY what YOU are doing....
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Quote from: Palehorse on May 25, 2010, 12:33:05 PM
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Palehorse, did you ever notice Henry is always bitching about how someone doing his job. Well, when you come right out and ask him what would you do, Henry, you can't get a straight answer out of him. Cricket, Cricket. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :yes:
Quote from: The Troll on May 25, 2010, 01:37:42 PM
Palehorse, did you ever notice Henry is always bitching about how someone doing his job. Well, when you come right out and ask him what would you do, Henry, you can't get a straight answer out of him. Cricket, Cricket. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :yes:
Yeah well, he is a bird yah know! :biggrin:
Quote from: Palehorse on May 25, 2010, 01:54:07 PM
Yeah well, he is a bird yah know! :biggrin:
Yeh, CHEEP, CHEEP, CHEAP, CHEAP, CHEAP. :flap: :flap: :flap: :bliss: :bliss: :spooked: :spooked: :yes:
She's so ignorant she poured gasoline onto a dying fire for one of her Texas Tea Party candidates in South Carolina, inciting Nikki Haley's lover to begin posting proof of their relationship! :biggrin:
(CNN) - Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin is using the Gulf Coast oil spill to promote the issue of drilling in the Alaskan Wildlife National Refuge – the 20-million protected acres where untapped oil and gas reserves have long served as a lightning rod of controversy.
"Xtreme Greenies: see now why we push 'drill,baby,drill' of known reserves & promising finds in safe onshore places like ANWR? Now do you get it?" the former Republican vice presidential nominee wrote Tuesday evening on her Twitter account.. . .
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?fbid=qWQuFzQ04-P (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?fbid=qWQuFzQ04-P)
Drill baby, drill - kill baby, kill - spill baby, spill! :rolleyes:
This woman is dumber than a box of hammers! :mad: :mad: :mad:
You're not giving the hammers or the box enough credit ;D
the only thing I can say is,.......she is smart enough to piss YOU guys off...and THAT is good enough for me.....it makes me smile when you guys keep on wasting time on her......I really think she scares the hell out of you guys, so you keep on following her around and watch her EVERY move, then SMACK!!!....more front page news....(http://theunknownzone.us/smf/Smileys3/default/rotfl.gif)
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 02, 2010, 11:26:52 AM
the only thing I can say is,.......she is smart enough to piss YOU guys off...and THAT is good enough for me.....it makes me smile when you guys keep on wasting time on her......I really think she scares the hell out of you guys, so you keep on following her around and watch her EVERY move, then SMACK!!!....more front page news....(http://theunknownzone.us/smf/Smileys3/default/rotfl.gif)
Piles of shiat don't have any brains either, but they piss people off when they are in they are in the way of where you want to go, and you can't avoid stepping in them. :smile:
Trouble is, dung beetles keep playing with it.
Based on the fact that you seem convinced of that, she's "smart" so she's ticking people off; I think it's safe to assume that people who are smarter than you, tick you off, Henry.
It doesn't work that way for me. :no:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 02, 2010, 12:25:08 PM
Based on the fact that you seem convinced of that, she's "smart" so she's ticking people off; I think it's safe to assume that people who are smarter than you, tick you off, Henry.
It doesn't work that way for me. :no:
I didn't say she was smart....just smart enough to piss you guys off.......take it how EVER you want.... :razz: ;)
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 02, 2010, 12:25:08 PM
I think it's safe to assume that people who are smarter than you, tick you off, Henry.
Of course they do; look at his signature line. If your an intellectual, you're 'elite'...like either is a bad thing.
Quote from: Exterminator on June 02, 2010, 01:18:10 PM
Of course they do; look at his signature line. If your an intellectual, you're 'elite'...like either is a bad thing.
Well, they obviously think that no one outside of their little clique is smart enough to run their own lives and make their own decisions so, IMO, they think they are superior to all of us and that includes you. Soooo in this case I would say, yes, intellectual elitism is a bad thing.
Quote from: Exterminator on June 02, 2010, 01:18:10 PM
Of course they do; look at his signature line. If your an intellectual, you're 'elite'...like either is a bad thing.
boy, you got that ALL wrong....James Madison wasn't saying that if you are intellectual, you're 'elite'....he said that we either believe that Americans know what is best for each of our lives OR, we let a small group of self titled intellectuals decide what is best for ALL of us....and ALL of those who fought and died for our rights, die in vain.....THAT is what is meant by that signature line that I found inspiring....
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 02, 2010, 01:27:12 PM
boy, you got that ALL wrong....James Madison wasn't saying that if you are intellectual, you're 'elite'....he said that we either believe that Americans know what is best for each of our lives OR, we let a small group of self titled intellectuals decide what is best for ALL of us....and ALL of those who fought and died for our rights, die in vain.....THAT is what is meant by that signature line that I found inspiring....
Gonna be interesting to see how they twist this one. :biggrin:
Quote from: me on June 02, 2010, 01:26:48 PM
Well, they obviously think that no one outside of their little clique is smart enough to run their own lives and make their own decisions...
And in a lot of ways, they're right.
Quote from: Exterminator on June 02, 2010, 01:32:29 PM
And in a lot of ways, they're right.
But they are wrong to try to do it for everyone. What is right for one is not necessarily right for another and you can't lump us all into the same category as bad as they are wanting to. We are not robots and do not need to be treated as such. I prefer to have a choice in things and if I chose wrong that's my problem and no one elses.
Well that's a very liberal thing to say...you're pro-choice.
BTW, your buddy Henry opened this door. Talk about lumping everyone into one category. He seems to think that someone's intellect ticks people off. That doesn't apply to me, so apparently he's speaking from experience.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 02, 2010, 01:50:00 PM
BTW, your buddy Henry opened this door. Talk about lumping everyone into one category. He seems to think that someone's intellect ticks people off. That doesn't apply to me, so apparently he's speaking from experience.
I MUST be right, because YOU didn't understand a simple quote.....OR, you are just doing what the left has become so very good at, and that is "spinning" issues to fit your arguement....which is it?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 02, 2010, 01:27:12 PM
boy, you got that ALL wrong....James Madison wasn't saying that if you are intellectual, you're 'elite'....he said that we either believe that Americans know what is best for each of our lives OR, we let a small group of self titled intellectuals decide what is best for ALL of us....and ALL of those who fought and died for our rights, die in vain.....THAT is what is meant by that signature line that I found inspiring....
James Madison didn't say that. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Quote from: Olias on June 02, 2010, 02:09:51 PM
James Madison didn't say that. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
:biggrin: And how ironic is it that he didn't know who did say it! :biggrin:
Quote from: Palehorse on June 02, 2010, 02:21:03 PM
:biggrin: And how ironic is it that he didn't know who did say it! :biggrin:
Acutally I DID know who said it..(Ronald Reagan).. :redface: ...I will admit I completely blew it by getting into a too big of hurry....when I posted that James Madison said it....It is from a Reagan speech, and I have ALL of them at my finger tips and have often listened to them...
agian, Olias I am getting tired of apologizing because of YOU!!!.. :razz: :rolleyes: :razz:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 02, 2010, 02:31:13 PM
Acutally I DID know who said it..(Ronald Reagan).. :redface: ...I will admit I completely blew it by getting into a too big of hurry....when I posted that James Madison said it....It is from a Reagan speech, and I have ALL of them at my finger tips and have often listened to them...
agian, Olias I am getting tired of apologizing because of YOU!!!.. :razz: :rolleyes: :razz:
Oh my goodness, you made a mistake. Gollyeeeee. :biggrin: :biggrin:
Hey, Clide, did you get that panel box wired up. Yup. :yes: Let's smoke test it. :yes: Oh my god there smoke, a whole lot of smoke :dam; we got a fire. :dam: :gha: :o :spooked: :o :spooked: :rant:
We're going to have to rewire the damn thing. :'( :no: :no:
:kickcan: :kickcan: :kickcan: I'm sure glad I'm not the only one that makes mistakes.
The Troll :yes: :biggrin:
Quote from: The Troll on June 02, 2010, 02:56:16 PM
Oh my goodness, you made a mistake. Gollyeeeee. :biggrin: :biggrin:
Hey, Clide, did you get that panel box wired up. Yup. :yes: Let's smoke test it. :yes: Oh my god there smoke, a whole lot of smoke :dam; we got a fire. :dam: :gha: :o :spooked: :o :spooked: :rant:
We're going to have to rewire the damn thing. :'( :no: :no:
:kickcan: :kickcan: :kickcan: I'm sure glad I'm not the only one that makes mistakes.
The Troll :yes: :biggrin:
AWE SHUT UP!!!!.... ;D
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 02, 2010, 02:31:13 PM
agian, Olias I am getting tired of apologizing because of YOU!!!.. :razz: :rolleyes: :razz:
That's right. Blame someone else for
your mistakes. :rolleyes:
Probably someone in Madison, Wisconsin said it. :)
Quote from: followsthewolf on June 02, 2010, 03:44:07 PM
Probably someone in Madison, Wisconsin said it. :)
:biggrin:
Quote from: followsthewolf on June 02, 2010, 03:44:07 PM
Probably someone in Madison, Wisconsin said it. :)
THAT's RIGHT, I said..........someone named James, from Madison said it................try to keep up will ya?
Honest, I'm pedaling as fast as I can.
Quote from: followsthewolf on June 02, 2010, 04:01:37 PM
Honest, I'm pedaling as fast as I can.
I like your style FTW. You don't get excited. You size up your taget, plant the sword deep and slip back into the depth of the Unknown Zone.
It remind me of a joke. Two bulls, one young one and an old one standing on a hill over looking a pasture full of young hefiers.
The young bull jumping up and down and snorting, "Let's run down and screw one of them." The old bull looking down at him said, "Son, we'll walk down and screw all of them.
The Troll :tiphat:
FTW is my favorite :smitten:, Troll.
Henry, I didn't mention your quote.
I also didn't say that Palin makes me mad. YOU said that she must be smart enough to make the left mad. I admit to being on the left, but smart people don't make me angry, not because they're smart anyway. actually, I rarely get angry, but that's beside the point. ;D
I simply pointed out that personal experience must be your frame of reference to make such an assumption.
You did the rest on your own. :biggrin:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 02, 2010, 04:26:14 PM
You did the rest on your own. :biggrin:
AMEN TO THAT!!!... :spooked:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 02, 2010, 04:26:14 PM
FTW is my favorite :smitten:, Troll.
Henry, I didn't mention your quote.
I also didn't say that Palin makes me mad. YOU said that she must be smart enough to make the left mad. I admit to being on the left, but smart people don't make me angry, not because they're smart anyway. actually, I rarely get angry, but that's beside the point. ;D
I simply pointed out that personal experience must be your frame of reference to make such an assumption.
You did the rest on your own. :biggrin:
I really hope you don't think palin is smart.
Quote from: The Troll on June 02, 2010, 02:56:16 PM
Oh my goodness, you made a mistake. Gollyeeeee. :biggrin: :biggrin:
Hey, Clide, did you get that panel box wired up. Yup. :yes: Let's smoke test it. :yes: Oh my god there smoke, a whole lot of smoke :dam; we got a fire. :dam: :gha: :o :spooked: :o :spooked: :rant:
We're going to have to rewire the damn thing. :'( :no: :no:
:kickcan: :kickcan: :kickcan: I'm sure glad I'm not the only one that makes mistakes.
The Troll :yes: :biggrin:
This was one of by best one's, I had to bring it up again. The Troll :biggrin: :biggrin:
No Dan, I saw an editorial where the author called her "intellectually barren" and I thought he was being generous. I was just commenting on Henry's ridiculous assumption.
If she were one of many intelligent rightwing conservative women, I wouldn't be offended at all, but I'm ashamed of the fact that she represents my gender. I'm not angry though. ;D
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 03, 2010, 05:20:28 AM
No Dan, I saw an editorial where the author called her "intellectually barren" and I thought he was being generous. I was just commenting on Henry's ridiculous assumption.
If she were one of many intelligent rightwing conservative women, I wouldn't be offended at all, but I'm ashamed of the fact that she represents my gender. I'm not angry though. ;D
Quote from: The Troll on June 03, 2010, 08:56:42 AM
Sandy, what's wrong with getting angry. It someone :poop: on you can as far as I see, give them hell. If you keep it in you are only hurting yourself and how are they going to know that you're pissed off.
The Troll :biggrin:
It's not worth the effort. :biggrin:
I try to limit my anger to things which will be affected by the effort. (In a positive way, of course) ;D
Yes, apparently Sarah Palin is really this fuckin' stupid. She's now blaming environmentalists for the Gulf oil disaster. From her Facebook page:
With [environmentalists'] nonsensical efforts to lock up safer drilling areas, all you're doing is outsourcing energy development, which makes us more controlled by foreign countries, less safe, and less prosperous on a dirtier planet. Your hypocrisy is showing. You're not preventing environmental hazards; you're outsourcing them and making drilling more dangerous.
Extreme deep water drilling is not the preferred choice to meet our country's energy needs, but your protests and lawsuits and lies about onshore and shallow water drilling have locked up safer areas. It's catching up with you. The tragic, unprecedented deep water Gulf oil spill proves it.
http://www.facebook.com/notes/sarah-palin/extreme-enviros-drill-baby-drill-in-anwr-now-do-you-get-it/395324638434
Quote from: Locutus on June 03, 2010, 12:53:07 PM
Yes, apparently Sarah Palin is really this fuckin' stupid. She's now blaming environmentalists for the Gulf oil disaster. From her Facebook page:
With [environmentalists'] nonsensical efforts to lock up safer drilling areas, all you're doing is outsourcing energy development, which makes us more controlled by foreign countries, less safe, and less prosperous on a dirtier planet. Your hypocrisy is showing. You're not preventing environmental hazards; you're outsourcing them and making drilling more dangerous.
Extreme deep water drilling is not the preferred choice to meet our country's energy needs, but your protests and lawsuits and lies about onshore and shallow water drilling have locked up safer areas. It's catching up with you. The tragic, unprecedented deep water Gulf oil spill proves it.
http://www.facebook.com/notes/sarah-palin/extreme-enviros-drill-baby-drill-in-anwr-now-do-you-get-it/395324638434
Hey, if the shoe fits ya know.
WTF? More lies from this attention whore?
As I understand it the moratorium is for deep water only - deep water being defined as anything deeper than 500 feet below the surface.
Now she's twisting it to include everything??? :rolleyes:
She just wants the wildlife reserve areas in Alaska opened up is all this is. (Probably so she can get her payout for it).
Yeah, and don't forget that the "first dude" worked for BP for 18 years.
BTW, the last paragraph of that Facebook post is really telling.
Radical environmentalists: you are damaging the planet with your efforts to lock up safer drilling areas. There's nothing clean and green about your misguided, nonsensical radicalism, and Americans are on to you as we question your true motives.
- Sarah Palin
I cannot wait until Karma serves her up what she is dishing out! She's going to get buried in an avalanche of moose diarrhea!
:mad:
Quote from: Palehorse on June 09, 2010, 04:10:59 AM
:mad:
From what I can gather from watching all of the news programs, Fox not one of them.(because they are not news, their entertainment?) It seems that Sara speaking engagements are really down and the Teabaggers are unhappy with her because she went against one of their candidates. Right now she building that 14 foot fence up there in a Alaska. (wink) Can she see Russia now?
Quote from: The Troll on June 09, 2010, 08:16:02 AM
From what I can gather from watching all of the news programs, Fox not one of them.(because they are not news, their entertainment?) It seems that Sara speaking engagements are really down and the Teabaggers are unhappy with her because she went against one of their candidates. Right now she building that 14 foot fence up there in a Alaska. (wink) Can she see Russia now?
Probably just as easily as she can see all 57 states Obama thinks we have. :rolleyes:
Quote from: me on June 09, 2010, 02:07:00 PM
Probably just as easily as she can see all 57 states Obama thinks we have. :rolleyes:
Please tell me, old one who has head up butt all of the time. Where in hell did you get Obama thinks we have 57 states. Did you get it from the same place where your head is.
Quote from: The Troll on June 09, 2010, 02:27:48 PM
Please tell me, old one who has head up butt all of the time. Where in hell did you get Obama thinks we have 57 states. Did you get it from the same place where your head is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws
Quote from: me on June 09, 2010, 02:07:00 PM
Probably just as easily as she can see all 57 states Obama thinks we have. :rolleyes:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/57states.asp (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/57states.asp)
Apparently you want to use that as a smokescreen for your own English Grapes sour mash gaffe!
Ok he just misspoke and Palin is just stupid 'cause she didn't misspeak she really thought that....way to go...yer hypocrisy is showing ya know.... :rolleyes:
Quote from: Palehorse on June 09, 2010, 03:19:04 PM
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/57states.asp (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/57states.asp)
Apparently you want to use that as a smokescreen for your own English Grapes sour mash gaffe!
and Palin never said she can see Russia from her porch either....just another smoke screen!!
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 09, 2010, 05:23:55 PM
and Palin never said she can see Russia from her porch either....just another smoke screen!!
Repeat to yourself HH......Dems misspeak.....anyone who disagrees with them is dumb....dems misspeak....anyone who disagrees with them is dumb.....Might not work like it's supposed to since we are the brainless, racisist, bigots we are but that is what seems to be the thing these days.
Quote from: me on June 09, 2010, 05:29:43 PM
Repeat to yourself HH......Dems misspeak.....anyone who disagrees with them is dumb....dems misspeak....anyone who disagrees with them is dumb.....Might not work like it's supposed to since we are the brainless, racisist, bigots we are but that is what seems to be the thing these days.
:food24: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa:
Newly-minted U.S. Senate Republican nominee Carly Fiorina added her name Wednesday to the annals of unfortunate politicians caught by an open mic.
Waiting to be interviewed by affiliate KXTV Wednesday morning, Fiorina is clearly heard taking a dig at her rival for the California Senate seat, Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-California.
"God, what is that hair?" a laughing Fiorina said, while quoting a friend who had recently seen Boxer on television. "So yesterday."
Fiorina also questioned why Republican gubernatorial candidate Meg Whitman had decided to go on Sean Hannity's show the day after winning her party's primary.
"It's really surprising that on the first day of the general [election], Meg Whitman is going on Sean Hannity," she said. "I think it's bizarre...I think it's a very bad choice actually. You know how he is."
Contacted by CNN about the comments, a spokesperson for Fiorina downplayed the remarks. "This was nothing but early morning small talk," Fiorina campaign press secretary Amy Thoma said in an e-mail to CNN. . .
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?fbid=qWQuFzQ04-P (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/?fbid=qWQuFzQ04-P)
:waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa:
:eek: OMG not the Hannity show......It'll be the ruination of her especially after that awful remark about Boxer's hair....Oh the shame of it all........ :rolleyes:
Quote from: me on June 09, 2010, 08:33:05 PM
:eek: OMG not the Hannity show......It'll be the ruination of her especially after that awful remark about Boxer's hair....Oh the shame of it all........ :rolleyes:
:waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa:
all I have to say is...............NOVEMBER!!... ;)
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 10, 2010, 10:29:44 AM
all I have to say is...............NOVEMBER!!... ;)
You want to put a little money where your mouth is. I say Senator Reid will be re-elected again. Your Republican canidate out there is total nuts and crazy.
You Teabagger kept electing these far-right teabagging crazy nuts, you guys aren't going to win crap.
The Troll :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :seeya2:
November... ;)
Quote from: The Troll on June 10, 2010, 02:04:35 PM
You want to put a little money where your mouth is. I say Senator Reid will be re-elected again. Your Republican canidate out there is total nuts and crazy.
You Teabagger kept electing these far-right teabagging crazy nuts, you guys aren't going to win crap.
The Troll :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :seeya2:
:boredone: :rotfl: :groan: :puke:
Yeah, November. . . the start of the end times leading up to 2012. . . :angel:
Quote from: Palehorse on June 10, 2010, 02:34:29 PM
Yeah, November. . . the start of the end times leading up to 2012. . . :angel:
The Twins are characters out of "Alice in Wonderland" The Queen and the Mad Hatter. :rotfl: :rotfl: :bliss: :bliss: :koolaid: :koolaid:
My birthday is in November, I'm happy to see everyone is as excited as I am. :biggrin:
I think we should all get together and have a huge blow-out to celebrate my 29th :angel: ;D
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 10, 2010, 08:44:37 PM
My birthday is in November, I'm happy to see everyone is as excited as I am. :biggrin:
I think we should all get together and have a huge blow-out to celebrate my 29th :angel: ;D
OK Henry quit your lying. :biggrin: :biggrin:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 10, 2010, 08:44:37 PM
My birthday is in November, I'm happy to see everyone is as excited as I am. :biggrin:
I think we should all get together and have a huge blow-out to celebrate my 29th :angel: ;D
Hey, that would make you only a year younger than me..... :biggrin: :egypt:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 10, 2010, 08:44:37 PM
My birthday is in November, I'm happy to see everyone is as excited as I am. :biggrin:
I think we should all get together and have a huge blow-out to celebrate my 29th :angel: ;D
Hey Kid, was there dinosaurs when you were born? Somebody was saying you knew Ally Oop and his dinosaur Deno personally.
Here's to November :shots:
Not personally, mom wouldn't let me hang out w/people who acted like they were raised in a cave. :biggrin:
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Now queen Texas Tea Bag finds it necessary to publicly claim her fun bags are not implants! Bwah! Bwah! BWA - HA- HA- HA-HA-HA!!!!!!!!!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: (Of course "faux news" is hyping it up for the queen!)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,594502,00.html (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,594502,00.html)
Quote from: Palehorse on June 12, 2010, 12:29:09 PM
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Now queen Texas Tea Bag finds it necessary to publicly claim her fun bags are not implants! Bwah! Bwah! BWA - HA- HA- HA-HA-HA!!!!!!!!!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: (Of course "faux news" is hyping it up for the queen!)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,594502,00.html (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,594502,00.html)
Um, she was asked a question and answered it so what's the big deal? Isn't it strange that from that whole transcript you would mention something that is neither here nor there in the scheme of things?
Quote from: me on June 12, 2010, 01:38:52 PM
Um, she was asked a question and answered it so what's the big deal? Isn't it strange that from that whole transcript you would mention something that is neither here nor there in the scheme of things?
I didn't highlight it, the author/editor is the one that highlighted it! It is the headline! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Quote from: Palehorse on June 12, 2010, 02:00:15 PM
I didn't highlight it, the author/editor is the one that highlighted it! It is the headline! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Only as an after thought
QuotePalin Addresses Obama's Handling of Oil Spill Crisis, Her Political Influence ... and Yes, That Implant Rumor
Quote from: me on June 12, 2010, 04:02:37 PM
Only as an after thought
http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/ (http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/)
Uh. . .No. . .
Palin: "I have not had implants" is the headline! :rolleyes:
Faux News strikes again!
Different links..... :razz:
http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,594502,00.html
Quote from: me on June 12, 2010, 05:08:05 PM
Different links..... :razz:
http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,594502,00.html
I linked the text version for you technically challenged folks, so you could read it first. The second link I posted was the original headline for the article. Plus, "comcrap" is using that same headline! :biggrin:
Who cares, as is frequently pointed out, it is her body.
Quote from: Anne on June 12, 2010, 05:17:55 PM
Who cares, as is frequently pointed out, it is her body.
Validation of the point she is an attention whore! :yes:
Guess her hubby needed an extra set of pontoons for ice fishing safety eh? :biggrin:
Quote from: Palehorse on June 12, 2010, 05:12:51 PM
I linked the text version for you technically challenged folks, so you could read it first. The second link I posted was the original headline for the article. Plus, "comcrap" is using that same headline! :biggrin:
As you can tell by the transcript that wasn't the main portion of the show. I fail to see why Newsweek thought that was newsworthy and printed the lie anyway. Why don't they do a story on Pelosi's botoxed face 'cause that's true. Hell she can barely smile she's so botoxed up.
Quote from: me on June 12, 2010, 05:20:52 PM
As you can tell by the transcript that wasn't the main portion of the show. I fail to see why Newsweek thought that was newsworthy and printed the lie anyway. Why don't they do a story on Pelosi's botoxed face 'cause that's true. Hell she can barely smile she's so botoxed up.
Don't have to. The GOP is real consistent with their open mic moments, adultery, and fornication! They have to do someting to keep up with the queen!
Besides, that's Faux News fer yah! :yes:
Quote from: Palehorse on June 12, 2010, 05:22:32 PM
Don't have to. The GOP is real consistent with their open mic moments, adultery, and fornication! They have to do someting to keep up with the queen!
Besides, that's Faux News fer yah! :yes:
Oh I'm sorry I forgot...the Dems are lily white and never do anything like commit adultery or mess with pages....Oh wait, yes, they do but since they don't profess to be "christians" it's perfectly acceptable. :rolleyes:
No, it's not, but the difference is they they don't attempt to stand in judgement of everyone elses's morality or want the government to act as morality police.
Having said that, she should have refused to address that question. Who gives a fat rat's....
And that would have only caused more complaining and speculation.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 12, 2010, 05:42:15 PM
No, it's not, but the difference is they they don't attempt to stand in judgement of everyone elses's morality or want the government to act as morality police.
Having said that, she should have refused to address that question. Who gives a fat rat's....
Sure they don't...They just call for their heads on a platter and yell until they resign from office is all while some of their worst offenders are still, well were,(some have passed away) seated in congress or various other positions.
Quote from: me on June 12, 2010, 05:32:30 PM
Oh I'm sorry I forgot...the Dems are lily white and never do anything like commit adultery or mess with pages....Oh wait, yes, they do but since they don't profess to be "christians" it's perfectly acceptable. :rolleyes:
Did you forget good old boy U.S. Representive Dan Burton who knocked up a page and sired a bastard child.
Who is now running for that job again and will most likely be reelected by the Indiana Christians Republicans again. So much for Republican family values. :rolleyes: :razz: :biggrin: :yes:
Quote from: Palehorse on June 12, 2010, 05:12:51 PM
I linked the text version for you technically challenged folks, so you could read it first. The second link I posted was the original headline for the article. Plus, "comcrap" is using that same headline! :biggrin:
Don't read, listen or hear anything from Fox News. They are proven liers. :yes: :yes: :yes:
me, and the Repubs don't when the situation is reversed?
Anne, maybe, but then that's the price for taking her life public. I think that she might have received a few more respect points had she pointed out that the question was irrelevant.
Quote from: me on June 12, 2010, 05:20:52 PM
As you can tell by the transcript that wasn't the main portion of the show. I fail to see why Newsweek thought that was newsworthy and printed the lie anyway. Why don't they do a story on Pelosi's botoxed face 'cause that's true. Hell she can barely smile she's so botoxed up.
Years ago I use to take monthly, Newsweek and Time both at the same time. They seem to be news magazines and they seemed to "fair and balanced". But they got so far right wing and overly pro-corporation and Republican. Beside that they got so Yuppie, articles like the 5 best colleges, Harvard and Yale alway leading the pact. Too Republican and too Yuppie.
So why would I believe them?
Quote from: The Troll on June 12, 2010, 06:34:54 PM
Don't read, listen or hear anything from Fox News. They are proven liers. :yes: :yes: :yes:
That was CBS.....a news anchor lost his job over it...remember......Of course you don't you have what's called convenient memory loss.
Quote from: me on June 12, 2010, 08:13:16 PM
That was CBS.....a news anchor lost his job over it...remember......Of course you don't you have what's called convenient memory loss.
You talking about Dan Rather, his only problem he spoke the truth. Back then you couldn't say anthing bad about George W. or you be called un-American.
Quote from: The Troll on June 12, 2010, 10:23:02 PM
You talking about Dan Rather, his only problem he spoke the truth. Back then you couldn't say anthing bad about George W. or you be called un-American.
I think you'd better go back and check. It was proven to be a total lie and the papers were faked. Even though they tried real hard to make something out of it they couldn't and they even went so far as to say someone said it so it must be the truth. You can spin it however you want it was all a lie.
Quote from: me on June 12, 2010, 11:05:08 PM
I think you'd better go back and check. It was proven to be a total lie and the papers were faked. Even though they tried real hard to make something out of it they couldn't and they even went so far as to say someone said it so it must be the truth. You can spin it however you want it was all a lie.
Did God tell "W" to run for office, was "W" a drunk, did "W" go AWOL, did "W" do cocaine, did "W" sire a child out of wedlock, was "W" the most stupid president America ever had, from the evidence I've read, he probably did all of these. "W" did admit to two of these charges.
Quote from: The Troll on June 13, 2010, 07:19:27 AM
Did God tell "W" to run for office, was "W" a drunk, did "W" go AWOL, did "W" do cocaine, did "W" sire a child out of wedlock, was "W" the most stupid president America ever had, from the evidence I've read, he probably did all of these. "W" did admit to two of these charges.
Did Obama do drugs in college? Does Obama smoke? Does Obama drink. So what's yer point?
Quote from: me on June 13, 2010, 12:38:05 PM
Did Obama do drugs in college? Does Obama smoke? Does Obama drink. So what's yer point?
What's your point, the thing is, did he do anything illegal and can you prove it.
Quote from: me on June 13, 2010, 12:38:05 PM
Did Obama do drugs in college? Does Obama smoke? Does Obama drink. So what's yer point?
Did bush send troops into a country in an un-American, preemptive war? Did bush order the torture of prisoners? Did bush start funneling money to religions which is completely unconstitutional? Your pathetic list of potential obama transgressions pales in comparison to cheney/bush.
News Flash: Bush is no longer in office Obama is and has been for over a year now!!!!!!!!
Quote from: me on June 13, 2010, 01:52:22 PM
News Flash: Bush is no longer in office Obama is and has been for over a year now!!!!!!!!
And you want to bury every nasty thing the bastard did. You want us to forget the God damn stuff he and his party did to us.
But we won't forget. You and your party almost sunk this country and drove us into a Hoover depression.
But what really get me, you voted of George McCain and the dumbass Sara Paylin. You should be ashamed of yourself. I call that just plain stupid. :flap: :flap: :flap: :wacko:
Quote from: The Troll on June 13, 2010, 03:38:13 PM
And you want to bury every nasty thing the bastard did. You want us to forget the God damn stuff he and his party did to us.
But we won't forget. You and your party almost sunk this country and drove us into a Hoover depression.
But what really get me, you voted of George McCain and the dumbass Sara Paylin. You should be ashamed of yourself. I call that just plain stupid. :flap: :flap: :flap: :wacko:
:bsflag: :bsflag: :bsflag: :bsflag: :bsflag: :boohoo:
Sorry, I said George McCain, I meant John Bush, oh I meant, oh John McCain, hell there is not difference between the two. Except one picked moose hunting Sara for his running mate. :rotfl: :rotfl:
Don't you know Troll, once Cowboy Shrub left the WH everything is someone else's fault! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Hell, had McUseless and Queen Palin won they'd be blaming the spill baby, spill / kill baby, kill on Clinton! :yes:
That's true, PH :yes:
Can it be true?
The blog's rumor mill has it that Sara Paylin is now supporting two new boobies.
If that's true does that mean we have three boobs in one Sara. :kickcan: :kickcan: :rolleyes: :biggrin:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/06/14/palin-responds-to-breast-implant-rumor/?fbid=qWQuFzQ04-P&hpt=T2 (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/06/14/palin-responds-to-breast-implant-rumor/?fbid=qWQuFzQ04-P&hpt=T2)
Palin responds to breast implant rumor
What a boob! :food24: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Quote from: Palehorse on June 14, 2010, 12:15:56 PM
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/06/14/palin-responds-to-breast-implant-rumor/?fbid=qWQuFzQ04-P&hpt=T2 (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/06/14/palin-responds-to-breast-implant-rumor/?fbid=qWQuFzQ04-P&hpt=T2)
Palin responds to breast implant rumor
What a boob! :food24: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
it just goes to show you, that the liberals are very, very desperate and are trying EVERYTHING they can to try to make her go away......I find it very amusing actually.
I think the liberals just like making fun of her. It's not a matter of making her "go away".
Why would breast implants make her go away? That's illogical.
Conservatives would like to make fun of her too, but then they'd have admit that they were idiots to endorse her to begin with and we all know that honesty is not a conservative's stong suit. ;D
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 14, 2010, 12:43:00 PM
I think the liberals just like making fun of her. It's not a matter of making her "go away".
Why would breast implants make her go away? That's illogical.
Conservatives would like to make fun of her too, but then they'd have admit that they were idiots to endorse her to begin with and we all know that honesty is not a conservative's stong suit. ;D
I would endorse her over SEVERAL noted democrats...........such as, Biden.......talk about idiots!!......(http://theunknownzone.us/smf/Smileys3/default/rotfl.gif)
I guess they. the idiot bloggers and dem's, can't think of anything else to say about her so they are going to start making stuff up. They are the ones that keep her in the public eye by doing dumb stuff like that. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 14, 2010, 12:49:16 PM
I would endorse her over SEVERAL noted democrats...........such as, Biden.......talk about idiots!!......(http://theunknownzone.us/smf/Smileys3/default/rotfl.gif)
Every time he opens his mouth he says something stupid. :biggrin:
Quote from: me on June 14, 2010, 12:51:18 PM
I guess they. the idiot bloggers and dem's, can't think of anything else to say about her so they are going to start making stuff up. They are the ones that keep her in the public eye by doing dumb stuff like that. :rolleyes:
ME, despite what our local liberals say, they are terrified of her, or they would just quietly let her drift away, but THEY keep her in the news.....they want to make sure to destroy her before she gets too powerful in her run for a potenitial potus....
Quote from: me on June 14, 2010, 12:51:18 PM
I guess they. the idiot bloggers and dem's, can't think of anything else to say about her so they are going to start making stuff up. They are the ones that keep her in the public eye by doing dumb stuff like that. :rolleyes:
Fox is the one that broke the story, made it an issue, and Queen Palin is feeding off it. Fox, not any other media. FOX!
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 14, 2010, 12:53:45 PM
ME, despite what our local liberals say, they are terrified of her, or they would just quietly let her drift away, but THEY keep her in the news.....they want to make sure to destroy her before she gets too powerful in her run for a potenitial potus....
Liberals, repubs, demos. . . you just have to categorize everyone and every thing don't you?
And for the record, I'd love nothing more than to have her fade off into the sunset somewhere. . . but SHE won't let that happen! :rolleyes: She is an attention whore and this latest round of attention exemplifies how low she will go to obtain it!
Quote from: Palehorse on June 14, 2010, 01:04:25 PM
Fox is the one that broke the story, made it an issue, and Queen Palin is feeding off it. Fox, not any other media. FOX!
and of course you got proof of that, right?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 14, 2010, 12:18:37 PM
it just goes to show you, that the liberals are very, very desperate and are trying EVERYTHING they can to try to make her go away......I find it very amusing actually.
Trying to make her go away, you're surely kidding. She fun and amusing. She writting new comedy every day. Let her stay there at the top of the Republican Party until after November. She one of the best ammunitions going for us.
She just breaks me up. :rotfl: :rotfl: Just love her wacko ways. :wacko: :rotfl.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 14, 2010, 01:11:24 PM
and of course you got proof of that, right?
Quote from: Palehorse on June 12, 2010, 04:52:47 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/ (http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/)
. . .
Faux News strikes again!
that is where she defended herself against the "liberal" attack......it was a STORY a few days before this........
you just drank too much kool ade, and fox news is always a source to blame when things don't go the liberal way....you guys need some new material to work with. :razz:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 14, 2010, 01:19:46 PM
that is where she defended herself against the "liberal" attack......it was a STORY a few days before this........
you just drank too much kool ade, and fox news is always a source to blame when things don't go the liberal way....you guys need some new material to work with. :razz:
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
You just keep spinning for Queen Sara. . . Maybe she'll let you be her lap dog!
Quote from: Palehorse on June 14, 2010, 01:24:25 PM
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
You just keep spinning for Queen Sara. . . Maybe she'll let you be her lap dog!
I'm not a big fan of hers, but she is WAY more experienced at leading than what we have now....
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 14, 2010, 01:26:43 PM
I'm not a big fan of hers, but she is WAY more experienced at leading than what we have now....
Yeah, riggggght! :rolleyes:
She's whiter anyway :rolleyes:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 14, 2010, 07:44:22 PM
She's whiter anyway :rolleyes:
Your words not HH's. It is the Dems who keep playing the race card any way you look at it. All anyone has to do it disagree with policy and they immediately start yelling racist. That is just wrong in so many ways and just keeps shit stirred up which is what they want to do.
Quote from: me on June 14, 2010, 07:53:39 PM
Your words not HH's. It is the Dems who keep playing the race card any way you look at it. All anyone has to do it disagree with policy and they immediately start yelling racist. That is just wrong in so many ways and just keeps shit stirred up which is what they want to do.
The must be something racist about the Republican Party. How many black faces do you see and a Republican or a Tea Bagger Party rally.
A crowd of 500 people and you can count the brown or black faces on one hand.
Quote from: The Troll on June 14, 2010, 08:00:17 PM
The must be something racist about the Republican Party. How many black faces do you see and a Republican or a Tea Bagger Party rally.
A crowd of 500 people and you can count the brown or black faces on one hand.
That's what you're being shown by the lamestream media. Selective camera angles. :wink:
Well, he might as well have said that. She has more leadership experience? lmao! She's a quitter and an idiot and that's what he'd rather see in office. Considering that she has NOTHING going for her, then it must be b/c she's white.
You republicans are nothing if not transparent.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 14, 2010, 08:12:28 PM
Well, he might as well have said that. She has more leadership experience? lmao! She's a quitter and an idiot and that's what he'd rather see in office. Considering that she has NOTHING going for her, then it must be b/c she's white.
You republicans are nothing if not transparent.
No, it's what you are told to think and you're falling right in there. What's your reasoning when a black person doesn't agree with Obama's policies but likes Palin? Is he/she a racist too?
Quote from: me on June 14, 2010, 08:16:21 PM
No, it's what you are told to think and you're falling right in there. What's your reasoning when a black person doesn't agree with Obama's policies but likes Palin? Is he/she a racist too?
Chump comes to mind!
Quote from: Palehorse on June 14, 2010, 08:20:38 PM
Chump comes to mind!
Wouldn't that make you racist though? Makes as much sense as saying disagreeing with Obama makes a white person a racist. Think about it.
Quote from: me on June 14, 2010, 08:22:21 PM
Wouldn't that make you racist though? Makes as much sense as saying disagreeing with Obama makes a white person a racist. Think about it.
No it wouldn't. Racists come in all colors and sizes. . . and an awful lot of them are registered and voting republicans.
Quote from: Palehorse on June 14, 2010, 08:23:36 PM
No it wouldn't. Racists come in all colors and sizes. . . and an awful lot of them are registered and voting republicans.
If calling a black man a chump who doesn't agree with Obama isn't being racist then a white person disagreeing with Obama and not calling him names isn't either they are just someone who disagrees with a policy is all. Man you certainly have been programed well.
So you think that a person can't be racist against his/her own race?
Quote from: me on June 14, 2010, 08:28:12 PM
If calling a black man a chump who doesn't agree with Obama isn't being racist then a white person disagreeing with Obama and not calling him names isn't either they are just someone who disagrees with a policy is all. Man you certainly have been programed well.
Palehorse you maybe you should have call him what he really was, Stupid, dumbass or an idiot. Maybe she would get your drift better. :tiphat: :biggrin:
Quote from: me on June 14, 2010, 08:28:12 PM
If calling a black man a chump who doesn't agree with Obama isn't being racist then a white person disagreeing with Obama and not calling him names isn't either they are just someone who disagrees with a policy is all. Man you certainly have been programed well.
Not programmed, just honest. That propaganda you guys keep swilling up and parroting has nothing but racial hatred at its root. Now you and ol Hank personally may not feel that way, but by parroting it you are endorsing it by proxy.
Take the time to really investigate these jackasses the tea party is endorsing nationwide, and you will see the racists like Rand Paul, and that North Carolina Senator are as numerous as nuts in squirrel shite. But no, you let your blind hatred fester and be fueled by racial propagandists and believe the lies they've been spoon feeding you since well before the election.
You can dress it up anyway you like, but if it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, it is a duck. You idiots will elect Adolph Hitler reincarnated before it is through. . . And squall all the way to the ovens when they enact their racial agenda.
Quote from: me on June 14, 2010, 08:28:12 PM
If calling a black man a chump who doesn't agree with Obama isn't being racist then a white person disagreeing with Obama and not calling him names isn't either they are just someone who disagrees with a policy is all. Man you certainly have been programed well.
What would you call a homosexual who supports Ted Haggard's new church? "Real dumb" is the first phrase that leaps to my mind.
Noun
chump (plural chumps)
(US, slang) the opposite of a champ; a loser
Don't be such a chump.
the smaller of two bullies
I'll take on that chump, and you fight the other one.
(pejorative) an unintelligent person; a blockhead
That chump wouldn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.
a gullible person; a sucker; someone easily taken advantage of; the target of a scam
It shouldn't be hard to put one over on that chump.
someone lacking good sense - especially considered so for being scrupulous or unselfish
What a chump! He could have kept that money!
Huh, don't see any racial undertones there. . . :rolleyes:
Sorry but I'm not gonna agree with policies just to make happy happy with the anti tea party crowd. I do not disagree just because the tea party crowd tells me to. If I had agreed with his policies I would have voted for him in the first place and I didn't so why should I suddenly start agreeing with things he wants to do now? A lot of those in the tea party disagree with both parties and some don't even like Bush but you aren't told about those you are told only what the lamestream media wants you to hear about them.
Quote from: Palehorse on June 14, 2010, 08:35:29 PM
Not programmed, just honest. That propaganda you guys keep swilling up and parroting has nothing but racial hatred at its root. Now you and ol Hank personally may not feel that way, but by parroting it you are endorsing it by proxy.
Take the time to really investigate these jackasses the tea party is endorsing nationwide, and you will see the racists like Rand Paul, and that North Carolina Senator are as numerous as nuts in squirrel shite. But no, you let your blind hatred fester and be fueled by racial propagandists and believe the lies they've been spoon feeding you since well before the election.
You can dress it up anyway you like, but if it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, it is a duck. You idiots will elect Adolph Hitler reincarnated before it is through. . . And squall all the way to the ovens when they enact their racial agenda.
Quote from: me on June 14, 2010, 09:14:42 PM
Sorry but I'm not gonna agree with policies just to make happy happy with the anti tea party crowd. I do not disagree just because the tea party crowd tells me to. If I had agreed with his policies I would have voted for him in the first place and I didn't so why should I suddenly start agreeing with things he wants to do now? A lot of those in the tea party disagree with both parties and some don't even like Bush but you aren't told about those you are told only what the lamestream media wants you to hear about them.
Go with that if it makes you happy, just let me know when you get back from the state of denial you are in. . .
Quote from: Palehorse on June 14, 2010, 09:09:51 PM
Noun
chump (plural chumps)
(US, slang) the opposite of a champ; a loser
Don't be such a chump.
the smaller of two bullies
I'll take on that chump, and you fight the other one.
(pejorative) an unintelligent person; a blockhead
That chump wouldn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.
a gullible person; a sucker; someone easily taken advantage of; the target of a scam
It shouldn't be hard to put one over on that chump.
someone lacking good sense - especially considered so for being scrupulous or unselfish
What a chump! He could have kept that money!
Huh, don't see any racial undertones there. . . :rolleyes:
In this case you are saying it about a black man so wouldn't it automatically be racist?
Quote from: Palehorse on June 14, 2010, 09:17:14 PM
Go with that if it makes you happy, just let me know when you get back from the state of denial you are in. . .
Now let me get this straight. If Obama were a white man it would be perfectly fine if I disagreed with his policies but since he is a black man I have to go along with anything or I am a racist. On the other hand you can call a black man a chump and disagree with him for disagreeing with Obama but you're not a racist because you're sticking up for another black man. :confused:
And you say I don't make sense?
Quote from: me on June 14, 2010, 09:23:46 PM
Now let me get this straight. If Obama were a white man it would be perfectly fine if I disagreed with his policies but since he is a black man I have to go along with anything or I am a racist. On the other hand you can call a black man a chump and disagree with him for disagreeing with Obama but you're not a racist because you're sticking up for another black man. :confused:
And you say I don't make sense?
You don't. Your logic makes a lot of assumptions and illogical conclusions. Mine on the other hand, utilizes historical evidence, investigation, and facts; all of which you abjectly dispute. What other logical conclusion can be drawn from such a staunch opposition to that from which you would ultimately benefit? You cut your nose off to spite your face!
Quote from: Palehorse on June 14, 2010, 09:27:42 PM
You don't. Your logic makes a lot of assumptions and illogical conclusions. Mine on the other hand, utilizes historical evidence, investigation, and facts; all of which you abjectly dispute. What other logical conclusion can be drawn from such a staunch opposition to that from which you would ultimately benefit? You cut your nose off to spite your face!
That is your opinion and only your opinion. There are no facts that say a group of people who disagree with a person of color is a racist. If there is they are pretty sorry facts. I disagreed with Hillary Clinton but that doesn't make me a woman hater any more than disagreeing with Obama makes me a racist. It is your logic which is flawed the way I see it. With that kind of logic then a black man disagreeing with a white mans policies would make him a racist.
Quote from: me on June 14, 2010, 09:36:58 PM
That is your opinion and only your opinion. There are no facts that say a group of people who disagree with a person of color is a racist. If there is they are pretty sorry facts. I disagreed with Hillary Clinton but that doesn't make me a woman hater any more than disagreeing with Obama makes me a racist. It is your logic which is flawed the way I see it. With that kind of logic then a black man disagreeing with a white mans policies would make him a racist.
All I can say; is where were you sorry muther fukkers when cheney/bush were destroying the Constitution and spending us into oblivion, while giving their corporate buddies the keys to the god damned banks? You have NO credibility in challenging obama on a god damned thing, and you know it. So, the only thing you can possibly reaching for is racism and that really sums up the tea party; a bunch of fat fuck white guys, and their clueless marms, chanting down with the negro.
Quote from: dan foster on June 14, 2010, 09:55:03 PM
All I can say; is where were you sorry muther fukkers when cheney/bush were destroying the Constitution and spending us into oblivion, while giving their corporate buddies the keys to the god damned banks? You have NO credibility in challenging obama on a god damned thing, and you know it. So, the only thing you can possibly reaching for is racism and that really sums up the tea party; a bunch of fat fuck white guys, and their clueless marms, chanting down with the negro.
Ya know Dan if you're gonna be an ass and be wrong ya might as well do it in style with a bunch of put downs and cursing.....Makes you real credible..... :wink:
Where was he wrong? :confused:
Quote from: me on June 15, 2010, 01:32:37 AM
Ya know Dan if you're gonna be an ass and be wrong ya might as well do it in style with a bunch of put downs and cursing.....Makes you real credible..... :wink:
Is his words and names and his thought to much for your sensitive ears to hear. It's the truth.
Everything what has happened to America has been put in place by the Super Rich Predatory Capitalist who owns about 87% of the money in this country. Just think, the upper 10% of the rich class owns 87% of the money.
How did we get there, the Republican Party and it started with Ronald Reagan and Newt Gingrich's contract for America. The fall of the banks, the stockmarket, deregulation of everything which even lead up to the oil spill in the Gulf of New Mexico. Greed, free trade and everything for the rich and the corporations.
The last real Republican President we had was Eisenhower and when he left office he warned us about the military and industrial complex. It has come to be true. Two unfunded wars and the corporations running every thing by buying the leader of our country with large amounts of money.
But you voted for they and you support them but we all suffer because of your inability to see the truth.
The Troll :flag: :flag: :flag: :flag: :tiphat:
Quote from: me on June 15, 2010, 01:32:37 AM
Ya know Dan if you're gonna be an ass and be wrong ya might as well do it in style with a bunch of put downs and cursing.....Makes you real credible..... :wink:
This is another flawed debating club tactic you still use,
me. When you can't dispute the facts, you dispute the style. It didn't work in high school and it doesn't work now.
Quote from: dan foster on June 14, 2010, 09:55:03 PM
All I can say; is where were you sorry muther fukkers when cheney/bush were destroying the Constitution and spending us into oblivion, while giving their corporate buddies the keys to the god damned banks? You have NO credibility in challenging obama on a god damned thing, and you know it. So, the only thing you can possibly reaching for is racism and that really sums up the tea party; a bunch of fat fuck white guys, and their clueless marms, chanting down with the negro.
1. If I remember correctly, our Constitution is STILL intact the day President GW Bush left office....NOT DESTROYED AT ALL...
2. You cannot be serious about the spending can you? really?....the day obama took office last year to the end of the current fiscal year, (according to the Office of Management and Budget), the debt held by the public will grow by $3.3 trillion.....in 20 months, obama will add as much debt as President Bush ran up in eight years....
President Bush's deficits ran an average of 3.2% of GDP....slightly above the post World War II average of 2.7%.....obama's plan calls for deficits that will average 4.2% over the next decade.
obama just spent $787 billion on a stimulus bill that said at the time unemployment would not climb over 8%, yet it, to this day, hovers around 10%..........he spent $30 billion on expansion of a child health-care program....and a $410 billion federal spending bill that increased nondefense discretionary spending 10% for the last half of fiscal year 2009.
THAT IS CALLED SPENDING US INTO OBLIVION!!!!!
3. Obama ironically has bailed out our Banks, which happened to be some of his BIGGEST supporters....Citigroup and Goldman Sachs Group and Lehman Brothers ALL gave him a real nice inauguration....how convenient!!!
a. Let's not forget who the biggest recipient of political donations (obama) by BP...no wonder it took obama two weeks to respond!!!.....AND don't forget that it was OBAMA's administration that gave a safety award last year on the very BP drilling platform that is leaking in the Gulf or that the Interior Department claimed it inspected the drilling platform just 10 days before the accident!!! hmmm :confused: :rolleyes: ...
b. and we GOT to remember his union buddies, who got a FAT bailout (GM & Chrysler)....and has since has taken very nice care of those corrupted thieves....http://www.nrtw.org/en/blog/machinsts-private-jet-02112509 (http://www.nrtw.org/en/blog/machinsts-private-jet-02112509)
4. Bigots and racists?.............let's look at Obama and his party and discuss BIGOTS.....
a. Jesse Jackson - an anti semite -who loved the word hymie...
b. Harry Reid - referring to obama as a "light-skinned" and speaks with a "Negro dialect"
c. Trinity Church - a church that obama attended for nearly twenty years.......http://sweetness-light.com/archive/barack-obamas-church-ultra-left-and-afrocentric (http://sweetness-light.com/archive/barack-obamas-church-ultra-left-and-afrocentric) ...could you imagine the media having a feast IF Bush had attended a church that was strictly committed to the 'white' community?, the 'white' family?, that pledged to allocate it's money to 'white' business?, embraces the 'white' value system?...
d. The democrat party that was against the civil rights act of 1964...and advocates of segregation....
e. What party called Clarence Thomas an "Uncle Tom" for being the only black on the SCOTUS, which was nominated by the republicans?
f. What party put in the first black woman ever to be a Secretary of State? Condi Rice.
g. What party put in the first black Secretary of State? Colin Powell
and the best you can do is call the tea party a bunch of bigots?.. :rolleyes: :razz: ...really? :confused:
to sum it up for YOU DANNY........it is YOU muther fukkers who are destroying our Constitution..like your business takeovers such as GM & Chrysler?....and Fannie Mae?..Constitutional?... :confused: ... :no: How about your desire for redistribution of wealth?.. :confused: ... :no: How about the Health Care Bill where you are forcing individuals to BUY a commodity?... :confused: .. :no:
why don't YOU dan and YOUR buddies get a fukking clue.... :rolleyes:
this rant has been brought to you by a party who has common sense :razz: ;)
No, saying everyone has to agree with Obama because he's black is a tactic the Dems are using to divide and conquer. I still don't like his policies and all the BS and telling me I have no right to challenge or disagree isn't going to work. We all have a right to our opinion and Obama's being black doesn't change that no matter how you try to spin it. If Condi Rice had ran and won and you disagreed with her I guess that would have made you all both woman haters and racists using the type of logic you're all spewing. Get a grip for pete's sake. :rolleyes:
Quote from: LOsborne on June 15, 2010, 07:54:01 AM
This is another flawed debating club tactic you still use, me. When you can't dispute the facts, you dispute the style. It didn't work in high school and it doesn't work now.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 15, 2010, 09:12:07 AM
1. If I remember correctly, our Constitution is STILL intact the day President GW Bush left office....NOT DESTROYED AT ALL...
2. You cannot be serious about the spending can you? really?....the day obama took office last year to the end of the current fiscal year, (according to the Office of Management and Budget), the debt held by the public will grow by $3.3 trillion.....in 20 months, obama will add as much debt as President Bush ran up in eight years....
President Bush's deficits ran an average of 3.2% of GDP....slightly above the post World War II average of 2.7%.....obama's plan calls for deficits that will average 4.2% over the next decade.
obama just spent $787 billion on a stimulus bill that said at the time unemployment would not climb over 8%, yet it, to this day, hovers around 10%..........he spent $30 billion on expansion of a child health-care program....and a $410 billion federal spending bill that increased nondefense discretionary spending 10% for the last half of fiscal year 2009.
THAT IS CALLED SPENDING US INTO OBLIVION!!!!!
3. Obama ironically has bailed out our Banks, which happened to be some of his BIGGEST supporters....Citigroup and Goldman Sachs Group and Lehman Brothers ALL gave him a real nice inauguration....how convenient!!!
a. Let's not forget who the biggest recipient of political donations (obama) by BP...no wonder it took obama two weeks to respond!!!.....AND don't forget that it was OBAMA's administration that gave a safety award last year on the very BP drilling platform that is leaking in the Gulf or that the Interior Department claimed it inspected the drilling platform just 10 days before the accident!!! hmmm :confused: :rolleyes: ...
b. and we GOT to remember his union buddies, who got a FAT bailout (GM & Chrysler)....and has since has taken very nice care of those corrupted thieves....http://www.nrtw.org/en/blog/machinsts-private-jet-02112509 (http://www.nrtw.org/en/blog/machinsts-private-jet-02112509)
4. Bigots and racists?.............let's look at Obama and his party and discuss BIGOTS.....
a. Jesse Jackson - an anti semite -who loved the word hymie...
b. Harry Reid - referring to obama as a "light-skinned" and speaks with a "Negro dialect"
c. Trinity Church - a church that obama attended for nearly twenty years.......http://sweetness-light.com/archive/barack-obamas-church-ultra-left-and-afrocentric (http://sweetness-light.com/archive/barack-obamas-church-ultra-left-and-afrocentric) ...could you imagine the media having a feast IF Bush had attended a church that was strictly committed to the 'white' community?, the 'white' family?, that pledged to allocate it's money to 'white' business?, embraces the 'white' value system?...
d. The democrat party that was against the civil rights act of 1964...and advocates of segregation....
e. What party called Clarence Thomas an "Uncle Tom" for being the only black on the SCOTUS, which was nominated by the republicans?
f. What party put in the first black woman ever to be a Secretary of State? Condi Rice.
g. What party put in the first black Secretary of State? Colin Powell
and the best you can do is call the tea party a bunch of bigots?.. :rolleyes: :razz: ...really? :confused:
to sum it up for YOU DANNY........it is YOU muther fukkers who are destroying our Constitution..like your business takeovers such as GM & Chrysler?....and Fannie Mae?..Constitutional?... :confused: ... :no: How about your desire for redistribution of wealth?.. :confused: ... :no: How about the Health Care Bill where you are forcing individuals to BUY a commodity?... :confused: .. :no:
why don't YOU dan and YOUR buddies get a fukking clue.... :rolleyes:
this rant has been brought to you by a party who has common sense :razz: ;)
Yeah, like you stay up all night worrying about the national debt. A little hemorrhoid on the big asshole of life. Your going to do something about it. Fat chance.
Reagan had the larges deficit in history. Bush 42 had a large deficit, had to raise taxes. Remember "No new taxes". Clinton broke even, then came little George W. broke all record on deficits. Broke this country and you bitch. Your a joke. :flap: :flap: :flap: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Go ahead Troll, disregard the facts and make it a joke, that is ALWAYS your tactic and it is not a good one....and go ahead and just ignore the rest of the FACTS that I posted....you act big and bad here with all of your liberal buddies laughing with you....but, facts are facts....(http://theunknownzone.us/smf/Smileys3/default/flap.gif)(http://theunknownzone.us/smf/Smileys3/default/rotfl.gif)
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 15, 2010, 12:11:56 PM
....but, facts are facts....
The U.S. budget situation has deteriorated significantly since 2001, when the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) forecast average annual surpluses of approximately $850 billion from 2009-2012. The average deficit forecast in each of those years is now approximately $1,215 billion. The New York Times analyzed this roughly $2 trillion "swing," separating the causes into four major categories along with their share:
* Recessions or the business cycle (37%);
*
Policies enacted by President Bush (33%); * Policies enacted by President Bush and supported or extended by President Obama (20%); and
* New policies from President Obama (10%).
A variety of tax cuts were enacted under President Bush between 2001–2003, through the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 (EGTRRA) and the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003 (JGTRRA).
The non-partisan Pew Charitable Trusts estimated in May 2010 that extending some or all of the
Bush tax cuts would have the following impact under these scenarios:
* Making the tax cuts permanent for all taxpayers, regardless of income, would
cost the Treasury $3.1 trillion over the next 10 years.
* Limiting the extension to individuals making less than $200,000 and married couples earning less than $250,000 would
cost about $2.3 trillion in the next decade.
* Extending the tax cuts for all taxpayers for only two years would cost
$558 billion over the next 10 years.
Quote from: Olias on June 15, 2010, 01:01:48 PM
The U.S. budget situation has deteriorated significantly since 2001, when the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) forecast average annual surpluses of approximately $850 billion from 2009-2012. The average deficit forecast in each of those years is now approximately $1,215 billion. The New York Times analyzed this roughly $2 trillion "swing," separating the causes into four major categories along with their share:
* Recessions or the business cycle (37%);
* Policies enacted by President Bush (33%);
* Policies enacted by President Bush and supported or extended by President Obama (20%); and
* New policies from President Obama (10%).
A variety of tax cuts were enacted under President Bush between 2001–2003, through the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 (EGTRRA) and the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003 (JGTRRA).
The non-partisan Pew Charitable Trusts estimated in May 2010 that extending some or all of the Bush tax cuts would have the following impact under these scenarios:
* Making the tax cuts permanent for all taxpayers, regardless of income, would cost the Treasury $3.1 trillion over the next 10 years.
* Limiting the extension to individuals making less than $200,000 and married couples earning less than $250,000 would cost about $2.3 trillion in the next decade.
* Extending the tax cuts for all taxpayers for only two years would cost $558 billion over the next 10 years.
Simple math BS bookwork juggling to make things appear that way when they really aren't.
The treasury will have nothing if no one gets back to work and more jobs are lost because there will be no one paying taxes. More people working paying less taxes equals more than no one working and a few paying high taxes. Simple enough for you even to understand, or at least one would think so. Is the system you're wanting so badly working in Greece and the UK? No, it isn't. What makes anyone think it will work here?
again, they turn the table, but refuse to look at everything I posted.....that is such a common tactic on here....
It has worked for 234 years. . . There's only one thing different now. . .
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 15, 2010, 01:16:46 PM
again, they turn the table, but refuse to look at everything I posted.....that is such a common tactic on here....
Figures lie and liars figure. So go figure. :rotfl: :rotfl: :flap: :flap: :kickcan: :kickcan: :kickcan:
Quote from: The Troll on June 15, 2010, 02:41:03 PM
Figures lie and liars figure. So go figure. :rotfl: :rotfl: :flap: :flap: :kickcan: :kickcan: :kickcan:
there were no lies in my figures.......it is easy for you to just say there is......but, there isn't any......you best and always response it try to post something witty or funny.........that is when I know that I got ya... ;)
:rotfl: :rotfl: :flap: :flap:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 15, 2010, 09:12:07 AM
the day obama took office last year to the end of the current fiscal year, (according to the Office of Management and Budget), the debt held by the public will grow by $3.3 trillion.....in 20 months, obama will add as much debt as President Bush ran up in eight years....
President Bush's deficits ran an average of 3.2% of GDP....slightly above the post World War II average of 2.7%.....obama's plan calls for deficits that will average 4.2% over the next decade.
Quote from: me on June 15, 2010, 01:15:16 PM
Simple math BS bookwork juggling to make things appear that way when they really aren't.
:yes:
Quote from: Olias on June 15, 2010, 04:04:33 PM
:yes:
What should he have done. Set on his ass like Herbert Hoover and did nothing.
Quote from: The Troll on June 15, 2010, 04:30:36 PM
What should he have done. Set on his ass like Herbert Hoover and did nothing.
Ummmm .... I think you're asking the wrong person that question, Dude!
Quote from: Olias on June 15, 2010, 04:32:04 PM
Ummmm .... I think you're asking the wrong person that question, Dude!
Weeell Dude, you the one who made an issue of the money he has spent. Since you make the issue maybe you, Dude could explain how he he should handle the load of crap that George W. left him
The Troll :seeya2: Dude.
Troll, I think if you'll look a little closer, Olias was refuting Henry's "facts" re: Obama's spending.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 15, 2010, 06:04:55 PM
Troll, I think if you'll look a little closer, Olias was refuting Henry's "facts" re: Obama's spending.
Hah! Ain't it embarrassing when someone who claims to be on your side can't follow the thread of the discussion? Like I keep saying at work .. "Just don't HELP me!"
Quote from: LOsborne on June 15, 2010, 07:35:41 PM
Hah! Ain't it embarrassing when someone who claims to be on your side can't follow the thread of the discussion? Like I keep saying at work .. "Just don't HELP me!"
:finger01: :finger2: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
:smile:
Well, "Boob-Gate" is still in the news! :rolleyes:
:biggrin:
All this excitement over mammary glands...er uh...sacks of saline.
I guess there's more than one interpretation of "fun bags" ! :biggrin:
Quote from: Palehorse on June 15, 2010, 10:41:36 PM
I guess there's more than one interpretation of "fun bags" ! :biggrin:
In this case, I might classify them as "air bags."
:biggrin:
Quote from: Olias on June 16, 2010, 10:42:10 AM
In this case, I might classify them as "air bags."
:biggrin:
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
We know Sara is fucking stupid, but what about her sister. Michell Bachman, this is right out of her mouth.
"The president just called for creating a fund that would be administered by outsiders, which would be more of a redistribution - of - wealth fund And now it appears will be looking at one more gateway for more goverment control, more money to government." This is about making BP put up money for the cost of the damage to the Gulf and the people affected.
This woman is Fucking Stupid. :wacko: :flap: :flap: :flap: :jester: :tiphat:
Quote from: The Troll on June 16, 2010, 06:14:31 PM
We know Sara is fucking stupid, but what about her sister. Michell Bachman, this is right out of her mouth.
"The president just called for creating a fund that would be administered by outsiders, which would be more of a redistribution - of - wealth fund And now it appears will be looking at one more gateway for more goverment control, more money to government." This is about making BP put up money for the cost of the damage to the Gulf and the people affected.
This woman is Fucking Stupid. :wacko: :flap: :flap: :flap: :jester: :tiphat:
Apparently mental retardation runs in the family. . .
Meg Whitman Republican candidate for Governor of California had a real shot in the arm for her campain fund. She donated herself 20 Million dollars for it.
She must have made a killing at E-Bay. It is said that she treated her employees really bad. She grabbed one female employee and shook her, the girl sued her. The case was solved in mediation. The out come was secret.
Now here a woman who going to be a real candidate for the people. :flap: :flap: :flap: :bliss: :bliss: :bliss: :bliss:
ow where have w heard this exact perspective before? :rolleyes:
http://www.youtube.com/v/oy4LG8s9J3w
Quote from: Palehorse on June 17, 2010, 08:50:41 AM
ow where have w heard this exact perspective before? :rolleyes:
http://www.youtube.com/v/oy4LG8s9J3w
And your problem with what she said is? Sounds to me like she's dealt with the oil companies before and doesn't trust them to be truthful and knows how they try to "get over".
Quote from: me on June 17, 2010, 09:29:15 AM
And your problem with what she said is? Sounds to me like she's dealt with the oil companies before and doesn't trust them to be truthful and knows how they try to "get over".
You would hear that. . . She's a bimbo and you and Henry are parroting her!
Quote from: Palehorse on June 17, 2010, 09:30:15 AM
You would hear that. . . She's a bimbo and you and Henry are parroting her!
How could I parrot something I hadn't heard yet? I hadn't heard anything prior to your clip except for John Stewart and that post from MSNBC HH made yesterday.
Quote from: me on June 17, 2010, 09:36:13 AM
How could I parrot something I hadn't heard yet? I hadn't heard anything prior to your clip except for John Stewart and that post from MSNBC HH made yesterday.
What was it that "Tater" says? You can't fix Stupid! :tiphat:
Quote from: me on June 17, 2010, 09:36:13 AM
How could I parrot something I hadn't heard yet? I hadn't heard anything prior to your clip except for John Stewart and that post from MSNBC HH made yesterday.
She spews the same "tea party" lines and propaganda that both of you do. And who the hell is she to assume she can speak to anyone's leadership qualities or abilities? She quit her last position when the going got tough. . . :rolleyes:
Quote from: Palehorse on June 17, 2010, 11:40:08 AM
She spews the same "tea party" lines and propaganda that both of you do. And who the hell is she to assume she can speak to anyone's leadership qualities or abilities? She quit her last position when the going got tough. . . :rolleyes:
Didn't listen to her very close did ya?
:no:
Quote from: me on June 17, 2010, 12:53:11 PM
Didn't listen to her very close did ya?
Hell, a full 3rd of what she spewed was posted on this very forum by Hank himself! :yes:
Is hank a psychic?
I wonder if Barby Moose/Moose will take over being queen of the GOBP and sing "Who's sorry Now"
http://www.youtube.com/v/NrzXLYA_e6E
This is YOUR Texas Tea Party! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Quote from: Palehorse on June 24, 2010, 04:58:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/NrzXLYA_e6E
This is YOUR Texas Tea Party! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
:gha: :gha: :gha: :gha: :gha: :gha: :groan: :groan:
And a poll published today indicates only 25% of Americans would consider an endorsement by the queen to be a good thing! :biggrin:
Quote from: Palehorse on June 24, 2010, 06:13:19 PMAnd a poll published today indicates only 25% of Americans would consider an endorsement by the queen to be a good thing! :biggrin:
I'll bet she will surely cry when she has to give back that $400,000 dollars. :rotfl: :rotfl:
I have been watching the polls for years. I have found that around 33% of the country are hard nosed, religious wing nuts who will vote for the Republican Party no matter what.
No matter how bad the Republicans f**k up when a poll is taken of that subject, 33% of the people asked will say that the Republicans were doing a good job. Poll, after poll, after poll they will get 33 %. If Sara is getting only 25%, she is loosing her base and she won't be around very long. :trustme: The Troll :tiphat:
Sara Palin giving a speech at Cal State Sanislaus, Saturday.
"This is Reagan Country and perhaps it was destiny that the man who went to California's Eureka College, would become so wovern within and interlinked with the Golden State." Now here is the kicker. Erueka College is in Eureka, Illinois where Reagan came from. :rotfl: :rotfl:
Here one from Sara's Tea Party buddy.
Sharron Angle, Republican canidate for Senate from Nevada and a teabagger. Said to Risistnet.com June 23rd.
"I was just saying we are over regulating some of our industries and of course the oil and petroleum industry is one of these we've been over regulation and that has what has been dependent to foreign oil. So, that,s the kind of thing we need to do with all our matural resources, make sure that the government isn't over regulating those industries and causing them to be outsourced. Huh, what did she say, I couldn't get it, do you. I think Harry Reid has this one.
Quote from: The Troll on June 24, 2010, 10:44:13 PM
I have been watching the polls for years. I have found that around 33% of the country are hard nosed, religious wing nuts who will vote for the Republican Party no matter what.
No matter how bad the Republicans f**k up when a poll is taken of that subject, 33% of the people asked will say that the Republicans were doing a good job. Poll, after poll, after poll they will get 33 %. If Sara is getting only 25%, she is loosing her base and she won't be around very long. :trustme: The Troll :tiphat:
I just shot my coffee, RIGHT out of my nose when I read this!!!!!!!! (http://theunknownzone.us/smf/Smileys3/default/rotfl.gif)
Troll, you are NO different you would vote democrat if Charles Manson was running for POTUS as a democrat...and you would support him with all your heart.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 29, 2010, 08:44:01 AM
I just shot my coffee, RIGHT out of my nose when I read this!!!!!!!! (http://theunknownzone.us/smf/Smileys3/default/rotfl.gif)
Troll, you are NO different you would vote democrat if Charles Manson was running for POTUS as a democrat...and you would support him with all your heart.
No, No couldn't vote for Charlie, not to bright, got caught.
I would vote for some of these men who killed America in the stock market and the banks and got off scott free and got all of the money.
First thing I would have them do, is strangle the Republican leader and head of the Republican Party, Rush Limbaugh. Then cut out the brain of the educational leader and teacher, Glen Beck. :love: All would be better. And they would get away with it. :rotfl: :biggrin:
Quote from: The Troll on June 29, 2010, 10:13:12 AM
No, No couldn't vote for Charlie, not to bright, got caught.
I would vote for some of these men who killed America in the stock market and the banks and got off scott free and got all of the money.
First thing I would have them do, is strangle the Republican leader and head of the Republican Party, Rush Limbaugh. Then cut out the brain of the educational leader and teacher, Glen Beck. :love: All would be better. And they would get away with it. :rotfl: :biggrin:
Ya, then everyone would go believin' that there were only a few black American patriots and that the Native Americans are the ones who started scalping people. Real brainy Troll....real brainy.
Quote from: me on June 29, 2010, 10:16:47 AM
Ya, then everyone would go believin' that there were only a few black American patriots and that the Native Americans are the ones who started scalping people. Real brainy Troll....real brainy.
Where in hell did you get all of that bull shit. About a few black American patriots and the Native American scalping people. Are you saying that I said something like this, please explain.
Now what do you mean native Americans, we all came from Africa and we spread all over the world. Some came down from Russian over the land bridge and down into the Americas and some from the East coast by ship. I am a native American, I was born here in America in 1937.
Quote from: The Troll on June 29, 2010, 10:13:12 AM
No, No couldn't vote for Charlie, not to bright, got caught.
I would vote for some of these men who killed America in the stock market and the banks and got off scott free and got all of the money.
First thing I would have them do, is strangle the Republican leader and head of the Republican Party, Rush Limbaugh. Then cut out the brain of the educational leader and teacher, Glen Beck. :love: All would be better. And they would get away with it. :rotfl: :biggrin:
Quote from: The Troll on June 29, 2010, 10:26:44 AM
Where in hell did you get all of that bull shit. About a few black American patriots and the Native American scalping people. Are you saying that I said something like this, please explain.
Now what do you mean native Americans, we all came from Africa and we spread all over the world. Some came down from Russian over the land bridge and down into the Americas and some from the East coast by ship. I am a native American, I was born here in America in 1937.
Notice what I highlighted in your previous post then reread my post. Being born here did not make you a Native American Troll and we did not all come from Africa.
Quote from: me on June 29, 2010, 10:43:14 AM
Notice what I highlighted in your previous post then reread my post. Being born here did not make you a Native we did not all come from Africa.
Yes ... we did.
Quote from: Olias on June 29, 2010, 10:52:47 AM
Yes ... we did.
Sweetheart :sweetheart: you need to stop watching Glen Beck and Fox News and starting watching the Science Channel.
It has been proven that all humans came from the same mother in Africa millions of years ago. A lot of it being proved by DNA and other modern science testing methods.
No matter how you would dislike it you are African decent. Just like Obama. You do have something in common with Obama. :yes: :yes: :yes: :biggrin:
Quote from: The Troll on June 29, 2010, 12:09:52 PM
Sweetheart :sweetheart: you need to stop watching Glen Beck and Fox News and starting watching the Science Channel.
It has been proven that all humans came from the same mother in Africa millions of years ago. A lot of it being proved by DNA and other modern science testing methods.
No matter how you would dislike it you are African decent. Just like Obama. You do have something in common with Obama. :yes: :yes: :yes: :biggrin:
Dude!!!! You callin'
me sweetheart? I didn't know you cared!!!!
:iloveyou: :lol: :yeah: :clap: :gorgeous: :beers: :rotfl: :wacko:
Quote from: Olias on June 29, 2010, 12:25:14 PM
Dude!!!! You callin' me sweetheart? I didn't know you cared!!!!
:iloveyou: :lol: :yeah: :clap: :gorgeous: :beers: :rotfl: :wacko:
Just between you and me, not "ME" I was just trying to be kind. But really :puke: :sick: :shots:
Quote from: The Troll on June 29, 2010, 12:09:52 PM
Sweetheart :sweetheart: you need to stop watching Glen Beck and Fox News and starting watching the Science Channel.
It has been proven that all humans came from the same mother in Africa millions of years ago. A lot of it being proved by DNA and other modern science testing methods.
No matter how you would dislike it you are African decent. Just like Obama. You do have something in common with Obama. :yes: :yes: :yes: :biggrin:
:rolleyes:
Quote from: me on June 29, 2010, 01:40:54 PM
:rolleyes:
What was your African name? Zoo Lu Lu Boo Boo? Were you a spear chucker or a clubber :smash:
Or Yubanga Chaireeee :chair: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Quote from: The Troll on June 29, 2010, 03:36:52 PM
What was your African name? Zoo Lu Lu Boo Boo? Were you a spear chucker or a clubber :smash:
Or Yubanga Chaireeee :chair: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
LMFAO!! Sometimes you are just TOO funny Troll. :rotfl: :rotfl:
Quote from: The Troll on June 29, 2010, 03:36:52 PM
What was your African name? Zoo Lu Lu Boo Boo? Were you a spear chucker or a clubber :smash:
Or Yubanga Chaireeee :chair: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
:food24: :rotfl: :spooked:
HumbaRumbaLopoDumba LumbaVumbaTopoTopo
Quote from: The Troll on June 29, 2010, 03:36:52 PM
What was your African name? Zoo Lu Lu Boo Boo? Were you a spear chucker or a clubber :smash:
Or Yubanga Chaireeee :chair: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
:biggrin:
Quote from: The Troll on June 29, 2010, 03:36:52 PMWhat was your African name? Zoo Lu Lu Boo Boo? Were you a spear chucker or a clubber :smash: Or Yubanga Chaireeee :chair: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Have you checked it out "Me", that you are from one mother in Africa. And see that you and Obama have more in common that you thought. :yes: :yes: :yes: :biggrin:
Quote from: The Troll on June 30, 2010, 05:24:52 PM
Have you checked it out "Me", that you are from one mother in Africa. And see that you and Obama have more in common that you thought. :yes: :yes: :yes: :biggrin:
All men have something in common which means you have something in common with Sarah Palin too. :razz:
Quote from: me on June 30, 2010, 06:25:15 PMAll men have something in common which means you have something in common with Sarah Palin too. :razz:
That one when over my head, so please explain. Because I have nothing in common with Sara Palin, plan and simple. Nothing. Except the breath and we eat. Just as not as high on the fish or cow as she does.
Quote from: The Troll on June 30, 2010, 06:41:20 PM
That one when over my head, so please explain. Because I have nothing in common with Sara Palin, plan and simple. Nothing. Except the breath and we eat. Just as not as high on the fish or cow as she does.
You have just as much in common with Sarah Palin as I do with Obama and all men with each other. We all bleed red when cut, we all share the same beginning no matter where it is from, and we all start out in this world the same way, naked.
Quote from: me on June 30, 2010, 06:49:41 PMYou have just as much in common with Sarah Palin as I do with Obama and all men with each other. We all bleed red when cut, we all share the same beginning no matter where it is from, and we all start out in this world the same way, naked.
I have to agree on that statement. We own nothing, absolutely nothing. We rent it for the length of your lives. No longer. Look at some of the happy heirs in a funeral prossession.
OMFG! :rolleyes: Sarahpac - - - :rotfl: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
Quote from: me on June 30, 2010, 06:49:41 PM
You have just as much in common with Sarah Palin as I do with Obama and all men with each other. We all bleed red when cut, we all share the same beginning no matter where it is from, and we all start out in this world the same way, naked.
We start out naked, AND ignorant. Some of us strive to replace our ignorance with knowledge and higher levels of morality. Some of us wind up Sarah Failin; beauty queen, idiot.
Sarah Failin! I like it! :biggrin:
She's proof stupidity is not related to hair color! :biggrin:
Quote from: Palehorse on July 20, 2010, 09:48:33 PM
Sarah Failin! I like it! :biggrin:
She's proof stupidity is not related to hair color! :biggrin:
But maybe Sara's getting smarter, She concede a major point about herself: she does not possess a hardy enough constitution to be president. In that interview, the Daily caller reports, Palin said the media became a key reason she decided not to finish out her term as governor.
David Corn - Polititicsdaily.com
Quote from: The Troll on July 27, 2010, 07:36:00 AM
But maybe Sara's getting smarter, She concede a major point about herself: she does not possess a hardy enough constitution to be president. In that interview, the Daily caller reports, Palin said the media became a key reason she decided not to finish out her term as governor.
David Corn - Polititicsdaily.com
Two reasons, I think; money and ethics probes. She was probably bound for impeachment, eventually, had she stayed. She definitely likes making money by playing a politician on TV. She has nothing else going for her. Playing the flute as a Beauty Queen wasn't going to earn very much.
Cartoon in the Anderson Herald Bulletin by Fitz Simmon.
A man and a woman talking over a cup of coffee.
Man: Palin made up a word. "Refuiate."
Woman: What do you expect? Her IQ is the overnight low in Wasilla. Somebody put lipstick on Dan Quayle. Get real.
Man: Only in America can you be too smart for your own good but never to dumb for political stardom. We Americans have always refudiated intellectuals. Eggheads make us discomfortable.
Woman: We crave leadertude that reflectifies our yahootivity. I propose a toast to our confedercy of dunces.
Man: Here, Here. To the illiterati!
Woman: To the illiterati! May we surive them.
Troll: May we survive Sara Palin!
Quote from: The Troll on July 28, 2010, 03:57:49 PM
Cartoon in the Anderson Herald Bulletin by Fitz Simmon.
A man and a woman talking over a cup of coffee.
Man: Palin made up a word. "Refuiate."
Woman: What do you expect? Her IQ is the overnight low in Wasilla. Somebody put lipstick on Dan Quayle. Get real.
Man: Only in America can you be too smart for your own good but never to dumb for political stardom. We Americans have always refudiated intellectuals. Eggheads make us discomfortable.
Woman: We crave leadertude that reflectifies our yahootivity. I propose a toast to our confedercy of dunces.
Man: Here, Here. To the illiterati!
Woman: To the illiterati! May we surive them.
Troll: May we survive Sara Palin!
You could have put George W in the place of Palin, above, and it would have sounded just like that dumbass, too.
Every morning she hears it as soon as she wakes up, tick-tock, tick-tock. It follows her wherever she goes. It is the sound of Sarah Palin's 15 minutes almost being up. Another sign that the end is near for Palinmania came in Jacksonville, FL where her fundraiser for Heroic Media was moved from a 2,936 seat theatre to a 609 seat venue due to poor ticket sales.
As Sarah Jones reported on Sunday, Palin was set to be the big draw and the headliner for a fundraiser benefiting the conservative anti-abortion organization Heroic Media, and as will all organizations that get conned into paying Palin to show up and babble with promises of filled coffers in return, Heroic Media is finding out that Palin is not quite the draw that they thought she was, or to put it another way, she isn't much of a draw at all.
http://www.politicususa.com/en/jacksonville-palin
^^
LMAO!! The people in Jacksonville figured out ole' Sarah is simply a windbag with nothing but empty space between the ears. :rotfl:
Not that I am a big fan of hers, but she HAS raised over a million in the last few months, and she has NOT been hitting it real hard....I think this is just the calm before the storm....
I don't think you have seen the last of her, by a long shot...
I do NOT want her as a candidate...but as a speaker to fire up some of the troops, she is and will play a big role in this Novembers election....just MY prediction.
You better hope the Republicans aren't stupid enough to nominate her for the presidential ticket in 2012. That would assure a victory for Obama.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 20, 2010, 05:00:20 PM
Not that I am a big fan of hers, but she HAS raised over a million in the last few months, and she has NOT been hitting it real hard....I think this is just the calm before the storm....
I don't think you have seen the last of her, by a long shot...
I do NOT want her as a candidate...but as a speaker to fire up some of the troops, she is and will play a big role in this Novembers election....just MY prediction.
I really think old Sara is going to be like the old dog story.
A DOG THAT SHITS FAST, DON'T SHIT LONG! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
If the Repubs were to run a woman or person of a race other than caucasian...who would you consider...this is a question for everyone.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on August 20, 2010, 08:00:10 PM
If the Repubs were to run a woman or person of a race other than caucasian...who would you consider...this is a question for everyone.
Retired General Colin Powell. If they ran him, I couldn't vote for him. (I won't vote Republican, ever again. I voted for Reagan ONCE!)
But if he won, it sure wouldn't leave a bad taste in my mouth like all of the other Republicans leaders would. I sure would try to get along with him, until the Republicans brain washed him.
I would vote for Mr. Powell, but my husbandf wouldn't. I might vote for Ms. Rice but I would have to know more about her. I don't think we will ever have a woman president except by default for the forseeable future. There will have to be a whole new mindset to get a woman elected, maybe from my daughter's or granddaughter's generation. That is just my opinion.
Quote from: Locutus on August 20, 2010, 05:07:02 PM
You better hope the Republicans aren't stupid enough to nominate her for the presidential ticket in 2012. That would assure a victory for Obama.
I agree, but she is being OVER demonized, I do not think she is an idiot, but I do not think she is electable either...but, givin the choice between the current administration and her, I would vote for her in a heartbeat.
I REALLY hope it never comes to that, and I do not predict it to be either.
I think Y asked "why" a few threads back. I don't recall waht your response was. I do have to wonder considering that you so much as said she isn't electable.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on August 23, 2010, 11:57:34 AM
I think Y asked "why" a few threads back. I don't recall waht your response was. I do have to wonder considering that you so much as said she isn't electable.
I'm not sure what exactly you just asked, but I honestly do not think she is electable, because the left has demonized her along with the liberal media. She has been branded as a SNL charactor. I really think she is a very good political leader, but I personaly am not a huge fan of hers. I hope she does NOT get the nomination, I think there are more qualifed and electable figures out there....and I do NOT want to see Obama in for another term.
Although, I'm sure that you knew exactly what I was asking, I'll rephrase:
Specifically, what job related criteria makes her more qualified to perform the duties of president than Obama? Please provide measurable evidence to support your theory.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on August 23, 2010, 01:43:44 PM
Although, I'm sure that you knew exactly what I was asking, I'll rephrase:
Specifically, what job related criteria makes her more qualified to perform the duties of president than Obama? Please provide measurable evidence to support your theory.
For starters, I think serving as a Govorner and a mayor instantly gives one more "credibility" as a leader than a community organizer and a senator for a few months does...despite the political affliliation.
She has a great resume for a woman of her age, with accomplishments...
Like her or not, she has accomplished very much and has shown some very good work ethics, while being a mother...
She has been a co owner of a family business...
I have NO problem what-so-ever claiming that she IS more qualified than Barack Obama....
Why do you feel He is more qualified? because he went to a very expensive college?
Read the answers to your questions, Sandy, and then ask yourself, "is there any real point continuing with this conversation?"
Quote from: Exterminator on August 23, 2010, 02:53:55 PM
Read the answers to your questions, Sandy, and then ask yourself, "is there any real point continuing with this conversation?"
and quite honestly, I don't care if this conversation continues or not......It means NOTHING. it is all pointless in the grand scheme of things...I have my reasons WHY, and you all have YOURS.
Correct, and here are mine...
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 23, 2010, 12:27:55 PM
I'm not sure what exactly you just asked, but I honestly do not think she is electable, because the left has demonized her along with the liberal media.
How about the media has just portrayed this stupid hilljack for exactly who she is? You neocons are always quick to label the media as liberal when they expose one of your corrupt, unethical scum-bags but not so much so when they do so to someone from the other side of the aisle.
QuoteShe has been branded as a SNL charactor.
You might get that...if you appear on Saturday Night Live! Hello...McFly...!
But, hey, she's white so by default she must be better than Obama; huh?
Quote from: Exterminator on August 23, 2010, 03:39:30 PM
But, hey, she's white so by default she must be better than Obama; huh?
NO Ex, as God as my witness, if Palin was a black, gay, athiest, but had the agenda of what Reagan had, I would vote for her over Obama in a second. I can care less what color anyone is, what their sex preference is or their religion....at this point of time in our history, I want what is best for this Country and the American people, because I have five kids that have a long time to live here yet, and I honestly think that Obama is taking us down the wrong path........It is the ideology that I am concerned with....PERIOD.
I am becoming MORE libertarian everyday....
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 23, 2010, 12:27:55 PM
I'm not sure what exactly you just asked, but I honestly do not think she is electable, because the left has demonized her along with the liberal media. She has been branded as a SNL charactor. I really think she is a very good political leader, but I personaly am not a huge fan of hers. I hope she does NOT get the nomination, I think there are more qualifed and electable figures out there....and I do NOT want to see Obama in for another term.
Hawk, you been drinking to much Republican Koolaid. :koolaid: You surely can't mean what you just said. Because it is, JUST PLAIN STUPID. JUST PLAIN STUPID.
Quote from: The Troll on August 23, 2010, 10:35:55 PM
Hawk, you been drinking to much Republican Koolaid. :koolaid: You surely can't mean what you just said. Because it is, JUST PLAIN STUPID. JUST PLAIN STUPID.
what exactly did I say that was JUST PLAIN STUPID?
I said I was NOT a fan....she is NOT electable...she WAS/IS being demonized (that is not a secret)...I said there are MORE qualified people out there....and I said she was/is a good political leader, and she has proved that....been a mayor, a governor, a VP running mate...not too shabby of a resume, even if you don't like her...
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 24, 2010, 08:34:08 AM
what exactly did I say that was JUST PLAIN STUPID?
I said I was NOT a fan....she is NOT electable...she WAS/IS being demonized (that is not a secret)...I said there are MORE qualified people out there....and I said she was/is a good political leader, and she has proved that....been a mayor, a governor, a VP running mate...not too shabby of a resume, even if you don't like her...
Resume my ass. Her mayors job would be equal of being mayor of Markleville, half ass, half term Governor or a half ass state. Plus pick by Rush Limpaw and John McCain as a last minute running mate. I'll bet the Republicans couldn't find any of their good people would have taken that job that late. Good resume. Like you would hire someone for your company with a resume like that. :rotfl: :rotfl:
Quote from: The Troll on August 24, 2010, 10:05:32 AM
Resume my ass. Her mayors job would be equal of being mayor of Markleville, half ass, half term Governor or a half ass state. Plus pick by Rush Limpaw and John McCain as a last minute running mate. I'll bet the Republicans couldn't find any of their good people would have taken that job that late. Good resume. Like you would hire someone for your company with a resume like that. :rotfl: :rotfl:
And what about community organizer makes one qualified?
A brain.
Quote from: me on August 24, 2010, 02:15:18 PM
And what about community organizer makes one qualified?
HE WON DIDN'T HE. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Quote from: The Troll on August 24, 2010, 04:44:15 PM
HE WON DIDN'T HE. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
so did george w bush.....twice....
Even a broken clock is right ....twice.... a day.
:razz:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 24, 2010, 05:01:20 PM
so did george w bush.....twice....
And look what it got us. A start of Herbert Hoover depression. This depression started in the crooked stock market and crooked banks and Old George W. and his crooked Republican party started again with a crooked stock market and crooked banks. Republicans, theives and depression are all the same name, same group. You voted for George W. twice and and John McCain and Sara Palin for vice president a heart beat from the presidency.
And you just can't see it. There is no hope for you.
Quote from: Exterminator on August 23, 2010, 02:53:55 PM
Read the answers to your questions, Sandy, and then ask yourself, "is there any real point continuing with this conversation?"
I did and there isn't, but I knew that going in. I just find it amusing to watch Henry talk out both sides of his mouth sometimes. It's interesting in a way.
So, she doesn't have any qualifications. There's nothing about her that would indicate that she has anything substantial to offer, especially her failed governorship. Yet he'd vote for her over a former U.S. Senator, who successfully served 3 terms and who's currently performing the duties of the position. Quite telling, huh?
What makes a community organizer more experienced than someone who has been a business owner, worked in the private sector, been a mayor and a governor?
Oh, leave Palin out of the mix here just answer the question.
Quote from: me on August 24, 2010, 06:34:02 PM
What makes a community organizer more experienced than someone who has been a business owner, worked in the private sector, been a mayor and a governor?
Oh, leave Palin out of the mix here just answer the question.
Why are you conveniently ignoring the fact that he was a successful 3 term US senator?
If not Palin, then who are you talking about? The answer to that question is important to getting an accurate response to your question. But off the cuff, I'd ask, was the person in question able to complete his/her term as governor? How successful was this mayor in office? Hopefully more successful than this one: http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1837918,00.html Oh and town size would be important. For example, if someone were a community activist in a major city like say...oh Chicago...compared to a small town w/the population of about 5500 like this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasilla,_Alaska then I'd think that person who is accustomed to dealing w/larger numbers of peple and getting results has more experience. Lastly, I'd ask how owning a business would be significant. Running a small business and the country are two vastly different things.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on August 24, 2010, 06:53:26 PM
Why are you conveniently ignoring the fact that he was a successful 3 term US senator?
If not Palin, then who are you talking about? The answer to that question is important to getting an accurate response to your question. But off the cuff, I'd ask, was the person in question able to complete his/her term as governor? How successful was this mayor in office? Hopefully more successful than this one: http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1837918,00.html Oh and town size would be important. For example, if someone were a community activiist in a major city like say...oh Chicago...compared to a small town w/the population of about 5500 like this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasilla,_Alaska then I'd think that person who is accustomed to dealing w/larger numbers of peple and getting results has more experience. Lastly, I'd ask how owning a business would be significant. Runny a small business and the country are two vastly different things.
And most of that time in the senate he was absent IIRC. What was his record in the senate? How often was he there for key votes? What bills did he sponsor or introduce?
Quote from: me on August 24, 2010, 06:59:11 PM
And most of that time in the senate he was absent IIRC.
Source?
Quote from: me on August 24, 2010, 06:59:11 PMWhat was his record in the senate? How often was he there for key votes? What bills did he sponsor or introduce?
http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=9490
Now your turn. What is Palin's record? How often was she influencial on key votes? How familiar is she with the branches of government and their roles? How familar is she with federal policy?
Let's go back and review the Katie Couric interview.
Maybe we'll finally find out what newspaper she actually reads -- if she does.
Quote from: followsthewolf on August 24, 2010, 07:20:31 PM
Let's go back and review the Katie Couric interview.
Maybe we'll finally find out what newspaper she actually reads -- if she does.
And that would have what to do with anything. Obama reads the Huffington News.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on August 24, 2010, 06:27:24 PM
I did and there isn't, but I knew that going in. I just find it amusing to watch Henry talk out both sides of his mouth sometimes. It's interesting in a way.
So, she doesn't have any qualifications. There's nothing about her that would indicate that she has anything substantial to offer, especially her failed governorship. Yet he'd vote for her over a former U.S. Senator, who successfully served 3 terms and who's currently performing the duties of the position. Quite telling, huh?
President was a one term senator and he didn't complete that term.
Quote from: Anne on August 24, 2010, 08:23:30 PM
President was a one term senator and he didn't complete that term.
I dare you to prove that, because it is a lie.
Obama served three terms in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004. Following an unsuccessful bid for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives in 2000, he first ran for United States Senate in 2004.
He was a US Senator for less than one term. Look it up, Biographical Directory of the United States Congress.
Quote from: Anne on August 24, 2010, 09:46:50 PM
He was a US Senator for less than one term. Look it up, Biographical Directory of the United States Congress.
Who in Hell care how long he was Senator. HE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HOW.
Quote from: The Troll on August 24, 2010, 10:49:39 PM
Who in Hell care how long he was Senator. HE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HOW.
And that is why we should care about who and what Obama is and has done. He is president and we know very little about him. Why does no one see a problem with that?
Quote from: me on August 25, 2010, 09:41:21 AM
And that is why we should care about who and what Obama is and has done. He is president and we know very little about him. Why does no one see a problem with that?
personally, I think AMERICANS screwed up and picked two very poor candidates to pick from this last election...we may have been screwed either way....are you saying that Obama was the BEST candidate for the democrat party to FIX this nation?.....
Yes.
This from someone who supported the abject loser, Bush.
Quote from: Exterminator on August 25, 2010, 10:28:04 AM
This from someone who supported the abject loser, Bush.
and I opposed Clinton, but I miss him after nearly two years of this crap....I would gladly return to the days of Clinton and Newt....than this Obama, Pelosi and Reid bullshit.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 25, 2010, 10:39:35 AM
and I opposed Clinton, but I miss him after nearly two years of this crap....I would gladly return to the days of Clinton and Newt....than this Obama, Pelosi and Reid bullshit.
Of course you would...you're all about supporting adulterers...as long as they're white.
Quote from: Exterminator on August 25, 2010, 11:09:59 AM
Of course you would...you're all about supporting adulterers...as long as they're white.
COLOR HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT!!!!!!!! POLICY JUST PLAIN POLICY!!!!!!! NEWS FLASH......REID AND PELOSE ARE WHITE AND I DON'T LIKE THEM EITHER!!!!!!!
Sorry, hilljack but that ship has sailed. You wouldn't recognize policy if is rose up and bit you in the ass.
My mistake, my apologies for not looking it up.
Obama did 3 terms in the Illinios state senate and resigned from the US Senate after being elected president, rather than dumping his commitment b/c he couldn't handle the self created drama in office.
Henry and "me", the only reason that you "know very little" about him is b/c that's your approach to everything. The information is there. Look it up.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on August 25, 2010, 11:37:44 AM
My mistake, my apologies for not looking it up.
Obama did 3 terms in the Illinios state senate and resigned from the US Senate after being elected president, rather than dumping his commitment b/c he couldn't handle the self created drama in office.
Henry and "me", the only reason that you "know very little" about him is b/c that's your approach to everything. The information is there. Look it up.
I never said I didn't know enough about him.....I DID my research....and he is a radical liberal...and that is not acceptable for me, so I am in favor of ousting him in 2012.
what do you know about my approach to anything?
I have a good memory of the bullshit you were spreading about Obama at the old HB forum. Either you did no research or you were intentionally spreading lies. Which was it?
Quote from: Exterminator on August 25, 2010, 12:19:27 PM
I have a good memory of the bullshit you were spreading about Obama at the old HB forum. Either you did no research or you were intentionally spreading lies. Which was it?
first of all, you are a liar....I NEVER once even talked about Obama on the old HB forum....get your facts straight dufass.....I have only been here since I ever even knew that Obama existed....(I have been here and here only since 2006)...where is this GOOD memory you have....could it be that you are WRONG agian?
I will answer that one for you....YES, you are WRONG!! ;) :razz:
Really? So what was your userID on the HB forums again?
Quote from: Exterminator on August 25, 2010, 12:58:57 PM
Really? So what was your userID on the HB forums again?
what's a mater, you memory is NOT quite as good as you thought it was?
My memory is fine; yours is selective. Afraid to reveal your old userID here again...you made a point of telling us who you had been on the other forum when you first joined here.
Quote from: Exterminator on August 25, 2010, 01:07:03 PM
My memory is fine; yours is selective. Afraid to reveal your old userID here again...you made a point of telling us who you had been on the other forum when you first joined here.
I have been here since 2006....I have NOT engaged in any debates on HB forum....you memory IS NOT fine.
I was CWM on the HB forum...
Riiiiiight...you go with that but you were absolutely one of the people on the HB forums who was constantly bringing up crap about Obama being a Muslim, not born in the U.S., association with Ayers, etc. I'm not the only one who remembers it.
Quote from: Exterminator on August 25, 2010, 01:38:42 PM
Riiiiiight...you go with that but you were absolutely one of the people on the HB forums who was constantly bringing up crap about Obama being a Muslim, not born in the U.S., association with Ayers, etc. I'm not the only one who remembers it.
you are wrong as wrong can be Ex.....for one, I have NEVER been on the Obama being a Muslim deal, not seriously anyway....and secondly I have here since 2006.....you must have me confused with someone else.
now say it with me.... Exterminator is ....W R O N G.... :razz:
Nope, I remember your and Mother Earth's garbage very well, thank you. Do you even know what the truth is any more?
Quote from: Exterminator on August 25, 2010, 01:58:25 PM
Nope, I remember your and Mother Earth's garbage very well, thank you. Do you even know what the truth is any more?
Obviously you don't......I have not even thought of Mother Earth since 2006....fact is THIS is the only place I have been since H M shut down....Obama was barely a US Senator when I started here....do YOU know what the truth is?....it is NOT making up shit about me.....Look, I have nothing to hide, I don't like Obama
and I would gladly admit to speaking out against him anywhere...but the fact is.........I didn't even know who Obama WAS until 2007 or so.....then, I didn't take him serious until he made his run for the POTUS...
what is your point anyway?....can you just say you was wrong?
Sorry, not wrong.
Whatever.
Henry, I think I remember as well. You had another name besides CWM when you went back.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on August 25, 2010, 03:52:23 PM
Henry, I think I remember as well. You had another name besides CWM when you went back.
when I left HM, I came here....as henry.....I was briefly in a couple of other places but Mother Earth was not there...and I did not engage in any REAL debates, especially about Obama....I know I have NOT discussed Obama other than right here...
but, go ahead and you guys can side up with one another like you always do....and gang up.
I know where I have and havent' been.......look it up I have been here since 2006...Obama wasn't hardly known then..
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 25, 2010, 04:27:38 PM
when I left HM, I came here....as henry.....I was briefly in a couple of other places but Mother Earth was not there...and I did not engage in any REAL debates, especially about Obama....I know I have NOT discussed Obama other than right here...
but, go ahead and you guys can side up with one another like you always do....and gang up.
I know where I have and havent' been.......look it up I have been here since 2006...Obama wasn't hardly known then..
I'm really not ganging up on you. I sincerely remember you being there after the national forums closed and the Anderson forum reopened.
I don't know about the Obama debates on HM because I pretty much avoided the madness of it all, between Mother Earth, NVM and a few of the other rightwing nutjobs, it was more than I could stand, but I DO remember your being there....in general. I recall that you came back as someone else "chickenhawk", "Hawk", "Hank" or something similar so that it was fairly obvious that it was you and after that you picked up CWM again for a while. I don't think you were back there for very long, but it was more recent than 2006. I'm sure of it, but the burdon of proof is on me and I can't find anything left from the old HM Anderson forum. So, either I'm mistaken and you're telling the truth or you're lying and taking advantage of the fact that it's not around anymore.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 25, 2010, 04:27:38 PM
when I left HM, I came here....as henry.....I was briefly in a couple of other places but Mother Earth was not there...and I did not engage in any REAL debates, especially about Obama....I know I have NOT discussed Obama other than right here...
but, go ahead and you guys can side up with one another like you always do....and gang up.
I know where I have and havent' been.......look it up I have been here since 2006...Obama wasn't hardly known then..
That's the way they do things HH. If ya don't have anything to say just make sh*t up....LOL
Quote from: me on August 25, 2010, 04:44:35 PM
That's the way they do things HH. If ya don't have anything to say just make sh*t up....LOL
You know, the way you have to jump in and attempt to defend Henry everytime he gets in over his head is kinda stalkerish. Not to mention making him look even more guilty than he already did. :razz:
Sandy's gotta stalker! Sandy's gotta stalker! :biggrin:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on August 25, 2010, 04:42:50 PM
I don't know about the Obama debates on HM because I pretty much avoided the madness of it all, between Mother Earth, NVM and a few of the other rightwing nutjobs, it was more than I could stand,
Don't forget a certain other Kooky.
:cookiemstr: :cookiemstr: :cookiemstr: :cookiemstr:
:rotfl: :rotfl:
^^ Now where's Kim?? She should have something to say about that. :biggrin:
Quote from: Locutus on August 25, 2010, 04:51:53 PM
Don't forget a certain other Kooky.
:cookiemstr: :cookiemstr: :cookiemstr: :cookiemstr:
:rotfl: :rotfl:
:food24: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: . . .err. . .ummm. . . :spooked:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on August 25, 2010, 04:48:20 PM
You know, the way you have to jump in and attempt to defend Henry everytime he gets in over his head is kinda stalkerish.
Sort of emasculating too, don't you think? :icon_twisted:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on August 25, 2010, 04:48:20 PM
You know, the way you have to jump in and attempt to defend Henry everytime he gets in over his head is kinda stalkerish. Not to mention making him look even more guilty than he already did. :razz:
Why shouldn't I defend him? I don't know anything about that other forum or whether he was there or not but seems to me like the burden of proof lies with Ex to prove he was since he had to through that into the mix and it isn't relative to anything.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on August 25, 2010, 04:42:50 PM
I'm really not ganging up on you. I sincerely remember you being there after the national forums closed and the Anderson forum reopened.
I don't know about the Obama debates on HM because I pretty much avoided the madness of it all, between Mother Earth, NVM and a few of the other rightwing nutjobs, it was more than I could stand, but I DO remember your being there....in general. I recall that you came back as someone else "chickenhawk", "Hawk", "Hank" or something similar so that it was fairly obvious that it was you and after that you picked up CWM again for a while. I don't think you were back there for very long, but it was more recent than 2006. I'm sure of it, but the burdon of proof is on me and I can't find anything left from the old HM Anderson forum. So, either I'm mistaken and you're telling the truth or you're lying and taking advantage of the fact that it's not around anymore.
I can assure you that I am not lying......you can go to the bank on that.
Quote from: me on August 25, 2010, 04:59:31 PM
Why shouldn't I defend him? I don't know anything about that other forum or whether he was there or not but seems to me like the burden of proof lies with Ex to prove he was since he had to through that into the mix and it isn't relative to anything.
Cause as you've just stated...you don't have a dog in the fight.
Quote from: Olias on August 25, 2010, 04:56:08 PM
Sort of emasculating too, don't you think? :icon_twisted:
:mama:
:biggrin:
What exactly is it ya'll want to be when you grow up anyway? :biggrin:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 25, 2010, 04:59:57 PM
I can assure you that I am not lying......you can go to the bank on that.
Sorry, I need cash cause I'm quite certain your azz is overdrawn :biggrin:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on August 25, 2010, 09:38:34 PM
Sorry, I need cash cause I'm quite certain your azz is overdrawn :biggrin:
:tequila:
Quote from: me on August 25, 2010, 04:59:31 PM
Why shouldn't I defend him? I don't know anything ...
Coulda just stopped right there and made exactly the same point.
Old Mamby Pamby Bear, Sara Palin better watch out she has an adversary. It was mentioned on TV last night by one of the talking heads that Machelle Bachman with her upward movement within the Republican Party and the amount of money she had in her campaign chest. She was increasing her chance of being a presidential candidate in 2012. :fireworks: :fireworks:
OH, MY GOD, what a blessing, a Bachman and Palin ticket. Could life get any sweeter? Henry and Me could help run the campaign. :bliss: :bliss: :bliss: Only in America :4th3: :flag: :flag: :bliss: :bliss:
Quote from: me on August 25, 2010, 04:44:35 PM
That's the way they do things HH. If ya don't have anything to say just make sh*t up....LOL
There's more than a little irony in this statement coming from you.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on August 25, 2010, 05:27:02 PM
Cause as you've just stated...you don't have a dog in the fight.
Ergo, STFU. :icon_twisted:
Quote from: The Troll on August 26, 2010, 08:16:36 AM
Old Mamby Pamby Bear, Sara Palin better watch out she has an adversary. It was mentioned on TV last night by one of the talking heads that Machelle Bachman with her upward movement within the Republican Party and the amount of money she had in her campaign chest. She was increasing her chance of being a presidential candidate in 2012. :fireworks: :fireworks:
OH, MY GOD, what a blessing, a Bachman and Palin ticket. Could life get any sweeter? Henry and Me could help run the campaign. :bliss: :bliss: :bliss: Only in America :4th3: :flag: :flag: :bliss: :bliss:
(CNN) - Two days after Sarah Palin fired up a large crowd at Glenn Beck's Restoring Honor rally in Washington, a newly released survey suggests a clear majority of Americans don't think the former vice presidential nominee has the right credentials to be president.
According to the new survey from Vanity Fair and CBS News' 60 Minutes, only 1 in 4 of all adults thinks Palin is qualified to be commander-in-chief while 60 percent say she is not.
By a narrow 47-40 percent margin however, Republicans do feel Palin has the right stuff to be president. But self identified conservatives – constituting the segment of the GOP largely thought to most favor the former Alaska governor – are essentially split 41-40 percent on her abilities to govern the country.
So apparently, a clear majority of Americans say, "Yes! Sarah Palin really is that fuckin' stupid!" :razz: :rotfl: :biggrin:
and yet, I would voter for her today over what we currently have...
I don't think she is "stupid"........but, I am not a fan of her to become our next POTUS either.
there is something about her, that I do not like....I think it is her tone of voice.
Do you even read what you post?
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on August 30, 2010, 02:31:47 PM
Do you even read what you post?
YES, and even though I would not want her as my next potus, I would take her over this current administration....in a heartbeat.
For no valid reason...not a very smart comment on your part.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on August 30, 2010, 02:39:30 PM
For no valid reason...not a very smart comment on your part.
I have plenty of valid reasons why I would want her over this current admin....why would that NOT be a smart comment in your eyes?...I happen to think that neither would be my "choice" for POTUS, if I had my "choice" of several other candidates.
Let's start with her qualifications. We're not examining Obama or anyone else at this point. We'll get to that. What qualifies Sarah?
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on August 30, 2010, 02:46:08 PM
Let's start with her qualifications. We're not examining Obama or anyone else at this point. We'll get to that. What qualifies Sarah?
Just exactly how many times does that have to be answered anyway?
Once
Here's a 2012 lineup for you. Ole' Sarah should team up with Glen Beck for a Tea Party ticket. That would take all of the votes of the loons from the Republican ticket assuring an Obama reelection. :biggrin:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on August 30, 2010, 02:46:08 PM
Let's start with her qualifications. We're not examining Obama or anyone else at this point. We'll get to that. What qualifies Sarah?
I have merely stated she is MORE qualified than Obama.....but, as a general rule, anyone who has had some Governorship of any state, has some qualifications in my opinion, based upon his/her performance of that state. I also, think that along with some political background, if this person has had real experience in running a personal business, and what type of leadership roles that he/she has....so with that in mind, Sarah, was easily elected in AK, she passed a bill and laid out the frame work for 36,000 miles of pipeline...bringing millions of $$$ economic growth to her state....she governed with strong conservative priorities, she led a crusade on ethic reforms in Alaska...she cut spending...she is pro business and pro developments...she ran a commercial fish business with her husband....and she spent 10 years as a Mayor.....she served on the Alaskan Oil and Gas Conservation Commision...
so, all in all, she has as much qualifications or more as a Bill Clinton, GW Bush and as I see it WAY more than BHO.
Quote from: Locutus on August 30, 2010, 03:00:45 PM
Here's a 2012 lineup for you. Ole' Sarah should team up with Glen Beck for a Tea Party ticket. That would take all of the votes of the loons from the Republican ticket assuring an Obama reelection. :biggrin:
maybe... ;) ;D
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 30, 2010, 03:10:54 PM
I have merely stated she is MORE qualified than Obama.....but, as a general rule, anyone who has had some Governorship of any state, has some qualifications in my opinion, based upon his/her performance of that state. I also, think that along with some political background, if this person has had real experience in running a personal business, and what type of leadership roles that he/she has....so with that in mind, Sarah, was easily elected in AK, she passed a bill and laid out the frame work for 36,000 miles of pipeline...bringing millions of $$$ economic growth to her state....she governed with strong conservative priorities, she led a crusade on ethic reforms in Alaska...she cut spending...she is pro business and pro developments...she ran a commercial fish business with her husband....and she spent 10 years as a Mayor.....she served on the Alaskan Oil and Gas Conservation Commision...
so, all in all, she has as much qualifications or more as a Bill Clinton, GW Bush and as I see it WAY more than BHO.
HH, there are more people in my county than in the entire state of Alaska. :wink: She'd have been better off being a mayor here than governor there.
Broward County is a county located in the U.S. state of Florida. As of 2000, the population is 1,623,018; this makes it the second most populated county in the state. According to 2008 U.S. Census estimates, its population has increased to 1,766,476.[1] Its county seat is Fort Lauderdale[2].Approximately half of Alaska's 698,473 residents live within the Anchorage metropolitan area.
Clueless. :no:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 30, 2010, 03:10:54 PM
she led a crusade on ethic reforms in Alaska...she cut spending...she is pro business and pro developments...she ran a commercial fish business with her husband....and she spent 10 years as a Mayor.....she served on the Alaskan Oil and Gas Conservation Commision...
so, all in all, she has as much qualifications or more as a Bill Clinton, GW Bush and as I see it WAY more than BHO.
Yet, how many ethics violations was she herself charged with? 19? 20?
Cut spending? While Mayor of Wasilla she increased spending by 63% and left the city with nearly $20 MILLION in debt.
Pro business? Sure ... as long as it's an oil business.
first of all, I am not campaigning for her, Sandy asked me WHAT qualifications she had, and I responded.
I can't believe we're still belaboring this point. Hadn't we already decided that she's a worthless douche?
Quote from: Exterminator on August 30, 2010, 03:34:15 PM
I can't believe we're still belaboring this point. Hadn't we already decided that she's a worthless douche?
I can't either, but the fuckin' bitch won't go away. I wish the state of Alaska had a return policy because I'd sure like to ship her back up there permanently.
Quote from: Locutus on August 30, 2010, 03:35:59 PM
I can't either, but the fuckin' bitch won't go away. I wish the state of Alaska had a return policy because I'd sure like to ship her back up there permanently.
I say we drop her in a vat of Valtrex. That ought to cure her for awhile and keep her quiet! :biggrin:
HEY!!, bitch at Sandy.................SHE asked a question, and I was kind enough to give her MY OPINION... ;) :yes: :razz:
My question based on your comment, Henry. The point is, she isn't qualified...period...not even minimumly..so to say that she is more qualified than someone else is really kinda silly.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on August 30, 2010, 03:47:52 PM
My question based on your comment, Henry. The point is, she isn't qualified...period...not even minimumly..so to say that she is more qualified than someone else is really kinda silly.
what in YOUR mind, qualifies one to be potus....
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 30, 2010, 03:39:28 PM
HEY!!, bitch at Sandy.................SHE asked a question, and I was kind enough to give her MY OPINION... ;) :yes: :razz:
Your OPINION was that she "cut spending", which she CLEARLY didn't.
Your OPINION was that she "led a crusade on ethic reforms in Alaska" yet she ended being the target of several ethics probes herself.
:rolleyes:
But....she is the stereotypical woman that every republican man wants to marry.....cute and not too bright. YOU BET'CHA!!
Unless, of course, the republican man is in an airport stall, looking for another guy, or ...................
Ooooohhhhhh. That's gonna hurt.
:yes: :biggrin:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 30, 2010, 03:51:12 PM
what in YOUR mind, qualifies one to be potus....
IQ over 100 would be a good start.
That would have been a HUGE improvement over the last one.
you guys should go on the road, maybe do Vegas.... :rolleyes: :razz:
I am waiting on Sandys answer.....I only did this for her....and NOW, I regret it....this may be the longest, most pointless thread in the zone history.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 30, 2010, 04:01:29 PM
you guys should go on the road, maybe do Vegas.... :rolleyes: :razz:
We should put you in the Ripley's Believe It or
NOT museum.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 30, 2010, 04:01:29 PM
you guys should go on the road, maybe do Vegas.... :rolleyes: :razz:
I am waiting on Sandys answer.....I only did this for her....and NOW, I regret it....this may be the longest, most pointless thread in the zone history.
You didn't do this for me. My question was intended to show you how insane your comment was.
Mission accomplished.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on August 30, 2010, 04:54:17 PM
You didn't do this for me. My question was intended to show you how insane your comment was.
Mission accomplished.
so dodge the question?.......It was only insane to YOU because of your one-sided approach to politics...it is called tunnel-vision.
I gave you an honest answer, why don't you try doing the same?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 30, 2010, 04:57:46 PM
so dodge the question?.......It was only insane to YOU because of your one-sided approach to politics...it is called tunnel-vision.
I gave you an honest answer, why don't you try doing the same?
No you didn't.
You're still saying she isn't qualified, but yet you'd put her into office tomorrow. You can't have it both ways, Henry.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on August 30, 2010, 05:00:35 PM
No you didn't.
You're still saying she isn't qualified, but yet you'd put her into office tomorrow. You can't have it both ways, Henry.
I never said she was not qualified Sandy....I said
I would voter for her today over what we currently have...
I don't think she is "stupid"........but, I am not a fan of her to become our next POTUS either.
there is something about her, that I do not like.... Show me Sandy, WHERE I said she was not qualified... :confused: ....you can't because I never said it....
Now ... YOU said ....Let's start with her qualifications. We're not examining Obama or anyone else at this point. We'll get to that. What qualifies Sarah?....
I told you "what qualifies Sarah"....Now, you tell me what qualifies any candidate?....don't dodge and try to be cute with your answer.....I gave you and honest answer, are you capable of doint the same?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 30, 2010, 05:09:45 PM
I told you "what qualifies Sarah"....
No you didn't. You offered up the same sheep-like comments of your herd ... comments which have been proven time and again to be false.
Quote from: Olias on August 30, 2010, 05:15:10 PM
No you didn't. You offered up the same sheep-like comments of your herd ... comments which have been proven time and again to be false.
Exactly!
And Henry,
I was clear in my question about her qualifications because each and every time her lack of credentials is discussed, you try to twist the discussion to focus on someone else.
What exactly does "I'm not a fan of her to become our next POTUS either" mean? If you think she's qualified now, she'll be qualified then.
You try to get a pass on talking out both sides of your mouth.
So tell me?
How would being the owner of a small business (car wash), mayor of a small town (population smaller than a sub-division in San Diego), and failed governorship (she quit) make her a quality candidate?
The way I look at it if you don't want to know the answer don't ask the question. You've spun like a top now answer Henry's question he answered yours even though you don't like the answer.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on August 30, 2010, 05:23:39 PM
So tell me?
How would being the owner of a small business (car wash), mayor of a small town (population smaller than a sub-division in San Diego), and failed governorship (she quit) make her a quality candidate?
I think it was Lolly Dolly that had the picture of a man with his head up his ass. It to bad we don't had a smiley face doing it. Because when the Hawk :chick: talks against Obama and for Sara I think of that picture.
Because that's where Henry got his head. :trustme:
I haven't spun anything. Those are the facts about her experience as Henry stated it. I'm waiting for Henry to fully answer the question. If that experience is qualifying then it should be easy to explain why. Although I don't really think it is, for either of you, otherwise you wouldn't be swooping in to save Henry's arse. :wink:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on August 30, 2010, 06:11:14 PM
I haven't spun anything. Those are the facts about her experience as Henry stated it. I'm waiting for Henry to fully answer the question. If that experience is qualifying then it should be easy to explain why. Although I don't really think it is, for either of you, otherwise you wouldn't be swooping in to save Henry's arse. :wink:
I'm just waiting on your answer to his question. I happen to agree with Henry FYI so there was no point in my posting any further on that.
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Well, good grief, it goes w/out saying that you agree with him. I imagine if one of you passed gas, the other would be snapping his/her fingers trying to pick up the tempo.
At any rate, I've answered his question, pages back, but I'll do it again as soon as one of you finish answering mine.
You've both listed her experience, but neither have you have opined on why you think it's qualifying. For example, Henry said that being governor of any state would be qualifying why? Does the population matter? Does the business of the state matter? Does it matter if it was successful? How would being mayor of a one stop sign town be qualifying? and I'm really curious how a car wash could have prepared her for the White House. ;D
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on August 30, 2010, 06:51:54 PM
Well, good grief, it goes w/out saying that you agree with him. I imagine if one of you passed gas, the other would be snapping his/her fingers trying to pick up the tempo.
At any rate, I've answered his question, pages back, but I'll do it again as soon as one of you finish answering mine.
You've both listed her experience, but neither have you have opined on why you think it's qualifying. For example, Henry said that being governor of any state would be qualifying why? Does the population matter? Does the business of the state matter? Does it matter if it was successful? How would being mayor of a one stop sign town be qualifying? and I'm really curious how a car wash could have prepared her for the White House. ;D
You asked one question and it was answered. Now answer Henry's question don't ask even more since you didn't like the answer. Makes it appear that you're avoiding the question.
You're so cute when you try to get stern and all, but try to keep up. His response was incomplete. I asked what her qualifications are, not a list of her job experience.
I refuse to repeat my answer until one of you put some thought into yours.
Quote from: me on August 30, 2010, 07:03:39 PM
You asked one question and it was answered. Now answer Henry's question don't ask even more since you didn't like the answer. Makes it appear that you're avoiding the question.
Now me I know your the tailgunner for the Hawk :chick: But damn, a tailgunner for a Kamikaza pilot. You know damn well the Hawk :chick: doesn't give answers when you pin him down. Sandy your wasting your time.
I know, Troll :yes:
Sometimes it's fun to see them squirm. ;D
Hate to say it but there is no squirming here. What are qualifications if not job experiences? You are avoiding the question asked of you is all and not a good job of it at that. When you fill out a resume what do you put on it if not past jobs?
Quote from: me on August 30, 2010, 09:06:29 PM
Hate to say it but there is no squirming here. What are qualifications if not job experiences? You are avoiding the question asked of you is all and not a good job of it at that. When you fill out a resume what do you put on it if not past jobs?
When I was a kid, I worked for a tight ass farmer. He had me shovel shit in the chicken house. He had me shovel shit in the cow tramp shed and he shoveled shit out of the hog houses.
That should have been one hell of a resume for you defunk business. Right, shoveling shit for "ME" You can see at an early age I had a shitty out look on life from working for a cheap ass Republican farme. :yes:
I have a little time to kill and thought I'd do an experience comparison.
In 1992:
Obama was teaching constitutional law at the University of Chicago and became the director of Illinois Project Vote. (a POTUS should be well versed in the constitution of the US so that's a direct fit and the right to vote and encouragement of that right is a good start).
Palin won a seat on Wasilla City council. Population taken from the census was 5500. (hummmm not seeing connecting federal experience). Perhaps "me" or Henry can help us w/that one.
1996:
Obama elected to the Illinois state senate. Population taken from the 1995 census was 11.8 million people. For those who can't see how this would be related to duties in the office of the POTUS, the purpose of the state legislature: "As a legislative branch of government, a legislature generally performs the same duties for a state that Congress performs at the Federal level, and as a general rule, the same system of checks and balances that exists at the Federal level also exists between the state legislature, the state executive officer (a governor) and the state judiciary, though the degree to which this is so varies from one state to the next." (seems like relevent experience to me).
Palin became mayor of Wasilla. Population based ont he census was about 5500. As mayor she made decisions which impacted these residents and not much more. The population of Anderson, Indiana is about 10X larger than that. Would your mayor be qualified as a POTUS? (Help us out here Henry and "me" - how is this qualifying?)
1998
Obama reelected to State Senate
Palin still mayor
2002
Obama reelected to State Senate
Palin completes mayoral career (served two terms reelected in 1999); Loses race as lieutenant governor.
2003:
Obama becomes chairman of the Illinois Senate's Health and Human Services Committee and formally places bid for the U.S. Senate.
Palin served as Chairperson of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission which due to frustration she resigned from after 11 months. (foreshadowing? )
2004:
Obama is elected as a US Senator.
2006:
Palin became Governor of the state of Alaska.
2007:
Obama announces his candidacy for POTUS.
2008:
Palin joins the GOP ticket as a Vice President hopeful
Obama elected POTUS
2009
Obama still serving as POTUS
Palin resigns as governor of Alaska ( a pattern?)
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2007/12/29/us/politics/20071229_OBAMA_TIMELINE.html
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2008/08/29/us/politics/20080829_PALIN_TIMELINE.html
Now, it appears to me that Obama has more experience directly related to the duties of a president of the United States. He is familiar with the policies, laws, regulations and interrelationships of the branches of government. I don't see the same experience from Palin. If she has it, then please point it out and explain how it's directly related.
I thought she was the owner of a car wash, but upon investigation, I see that she was actually a owner of a snowmobile, watercraft and all-terrain vehicle business. I'm still interested to know what the nexus between owning a small business and the office of POTUS is.
http://legacy.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/20081002-0203-usa-politics-palin.html
Quote from: me on August 30, 2010, 09:06:29 PM
Hate to say it but there is no squirming here. What are qualifications if not job experiences? You are avoiding the question asked of you is all and not a good job of it at that. When you fill out a resume what do you put on it if not past jobs?
When you rush to his rescue, you both appear to be squirming.
I wouldn't expect you to know the difference, but there is one. For example, the difference between a mayor of Podunk Utah and New York, NY is vastly different. A small business owner who owns AND operates a local family chain is vastly different than a business owner who only has his/her name on the paper.
I didn't expect you and Henry to understand why your response was incomplete so I did the homework for you ^. Now explain to me 1)How her experience is directly related to the duties of the position of POTUS and 2) makes her more qualified than Obama.
Quote from: me on August 30, 2010, 09:06:29 PM
What are qualifications if not job experiences?
How's about certifications and accomplishments?
QuoteWhen you fill out a resume what do you put on it if not past jobs?
When I search a resume I'm looking for certifications and accomplishments. A laundry list of past jobs is a waste of paper and ink, particularly if you bailed on them before the job was complete. Ms. Palin's resume shows a job-hopper with no commitment to any task.
Quote from: Olias on August 30, 2010, 05:15:10 PM
No you didn't. You offered up the same sheep-like comments of your herd ... comments which have been proven time and again to be false.
only by your biased, sheep leading media....SHE did pass a bill and laid out the frame work for 36,000 miles of pipeline...bringing millions of $$$ economic growth to her state....she governed with strong conservative priorities, she led a crusade on ethic reforms in Alaska...she cut spending...she is pro business and pro developments...she ran a commercial fish business with her husband....and she spent 10 years as a Mayor.....she served on the Alaskan Oil and Gas Conservation Commision...everything I said, IS a fact, and ALL, give her some credability in leadership, and more so, than a punk senator (for less than 200 days, before he made a move for the potus)....I know you don't like her, but with that tunnel-vision the left usually has, you cannot make a formed opinion outside of what you have been told all of your life.... :razz:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 31, 2010, 08:10:58 AM
...SHE did pass a bill and laid out the frame work for 36,000 miles of pipeline...
Hank, the executive branch (that's the governor at the state level) cannot enact legislation.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on August 30, 2010, 06:11:14 PM
I haven't spun anything. Those are the facts about her experience as Henry stated it. I'm waiting for Henry to fully answer the question. If that experience is qualifying then it should be easy to explain why. Although I don't really think it is, for either of you, otherwise you wouldn't be swooping in to save Henry's arse. :wink:
first of all, I don't need my "arse" (take a stand and say ASS)...saved....YOU, aske me a question, and I answered exactly to the fullest extent, and gave you qualifications....NOW, it can be argued about what is a qualification, but I gave you some reasons....with THAT said, Palin is STILL not what I consider to be "MY" conservative choice as POTUS...but she STILL is MORE qualified than BHO....and you HAVE spun more than an old maytag...big f'ing deal that O was a lawyer....we ALL know how trustworthy lawyers can be...and being a life time politician does not give me the warm and fuzzy feeling of getting someone who knows how to do what is best for a Country....I would much rather have a person who understands the tribulations of being a real citizen, someone who has personaly ran their own business, someone who has dealt with real issues and fixed them.....I am NOT impressed with Obama's experience nor am I pleased with how he has dealt with issues since becoming POTUS.
You can provide them with the information, Sandy, but they have to want to learn. Some people prefer to wallow in their own ignorance.
Quote from: LOsborne on August 31, 2010, 08:20:10 AM
Hank, the executive branch (that's the governor at the state level) cannot enact legislation.
I realize that, my point was she LED, to the passing of this bill...she helped layout the frame work, and encouraged others that it was a good measure to take for the economy of the State...
Henry, I used to think that maybe you didn't understand the question, but now I'm thinking you're just being dishonest.
I not only answered your question, but I clearly outlined Obama's experience and how it might relate to the duties of POTUS. All you've said is that she has a work history. Now how about explaining why it's significant and how it makes her more qualified than Obama.
(I know, Ex. I'd have more respect for him if he were simply honest about his thoughts and called Obama an "uppity Negro")
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 31, 2010, 08:10:58 AM
only by your biased, sheep leading media....SHE did pass a bill and laid out the frame work for 36,000 miles of pipeline...bringing millions of $$$ economic growth to her state....she governed with strong conservative priorities, she led a crusade on ethic reforms in Alaska...she cut spending...she is pro business and pro developments...she ran a commercial fish business with her husband....and she spent 10 years as a Mayor.....she served on the Alaskan Oil and Gas Conservation Commision...everything I said, IS a fact, and ALL, give her some credability in leadership, and more so, than a punk senator (for less than 200 days, before he made a move for the potus)....I know you don't like her, but with that tunnel-vision the left usually has, you cannot make a formed opinion outside of what you have been told all of your life.... :razz:
:bsflag: She sign a bill for 36,000 mile of oil pipe line, who's ass are you trying to blow smoke up? :bsflag:
BP part owned Trans Alaskan and Canadian pipe line planned a 800 mile 24 inch pipe for years before Payin signed it. What about the oil tax she put on the oil. Paylin raised taxes.
Sara Palin built 36,000 miles of pipe line :bs: :bs: Cut the bullshit Hawk. Get it right for once Hawk.
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Wait, I'm sorry, I just reread your last response and although you didn't explain exactly why you think the fact that she was a mayor and council person, chairperson (who quit), governor (who quit) is qualifying, you're still maintaining that she should be given some credit for leadership. Ok, fine, credit given, but on the local level, not the federal. You also have not successfully clarified why you think her experience makes her more qualified than Obama, but based on the fact that you continue to diminish and belittle his experience, even after it was provided to you, your intentions are clear.
He couldn't have been qualified enough in your book. Why not just say that you hate him, your reasoning is specious and save us the time and expectation that you may actually be a person of reason and thought.
Quote from: The Troll on August 31, 2010, 09:05:47 AM
:bsflag: She sign a bill for 36,000 mile of oil pipe line, who's ass are you trying to blow smoke up? :bsflag:
BP part owned Trans Alaskan and Canadian pipe line planned a 800 mile 24 inch pipe for years before Payin signed it. What about the oil tax she put on the oil. Paylin raised taxes.
Sara Palin built 36,000 miles of pipe line :bs: :bs: Cut the bullshit Hawk. Get it right for once Hawk.
One more thing I forgot to say. Since the BP oil spill in the Gulf, the 800 mile pipeline has been shelved for the present time, probably a long long time. So much for Sara's pipe line bill. But the oil tax bill is still on all the oil being pumped now.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 31, 2010, 08:10:58 AM
she led a crusade on ethic reforms in Alaska...she cut spending...s
Deja vu! We have all been here before!
How many ethics violations was she herself charged with? 19? 20?
How much did she INCREASE spending when she was mayor of Wasilla? 63%? How much did she leave them in debt? $20 million?
:rolleyes:
Qualifications aside, and no I still don't think his qualifications are all that glowing, what difference does it make on the qualifications if one still doesn't agree with the policies of the person running for, or already, president?
Well, in this case Henry said that he believes her to be more qualified, so I asked for clarification. Would you like to take a stab at it?
Are you saying that you identify more with her policies? What policies does Palin have that you agree with?
THE thing that makes both of your opinions suspect is the fact that you make claims that you can't support. Why bother pretending that you care? Why not just say you'd rather anyone be in office as long as they aren't democrat, liberal, black, take your pick.
Quote from: me on August 31, 2010, 11:45:53 AM
Qualifications aside, and no I still don't think his qualifications are all that glowing, what difference does it make on the qualifications if one still doesn't agree with the policies of the person running for, or already, president?
Obama is like the brilliance of the sun or even a Super Nova compared to George W. Bush. George W. is equal to the lights at a professional football game to Sara Palin's "Bic" lighter. Flick you magic Bic Sara. :rotfl: She such a joke. :jester:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on August 31, 2010, 12:30:52 PM
Well, in this case Henry said that he believes her to be more qualified, so I asked for clarification. Would you like to take a stab at it?
Are you saying that you identify more with her policies? What policies does Palin have that you agree with?
THE thing that makes both of your opinions suspect is the fact that you make claims that you can't support. Why bother pretending that you care? Why not just say you'd rather anyone be in office as long as they aren't democrat, liberal, black, take your pick.
She isn't running and probably won't so why go through all this? I said I don't like his policies and did not vote for him and I still don't like his policies and wouldn't vote for him next time around. Why debate the qualifications of someone who probably won't even run isn't that a waste of time? How do we know what her policies would be if she hasn't needed to state them and why would she if she isn't running and may not intend to? Seems like a lot of time is being wasted on Palin by the lamestream news media and elsewhere that could be put to better use. And don't start that attention whore thing up 'cause she isn't doing anything that a lot of other people aren't out there doing for their causes and parties it just seems like the media wants to focus on her for some reason.
Nice dodge.
Quote from: me on August 31, 2010, 01:05:57 PM
She isn't running and probably won't so why go through all this? I said I don't like his policies and did not vote for him and I still don't like his policies and wouldn't vote for him next time around. Why debate the qualifications of someone who probably won't even run isn't that a waste of time? How do we know what her policies would be if she hasn't needed to state them and why would she if she isn't running and may not intend to? Seems like a lot of time is being wasted on Palin by the lamestream news media and elsewhere that could be put to better use. And don't start that attention whore thing up 'cause she isn't doing anything that a lot of other people aren't out there doing for their causes and parties it just seems like the media wants to focus on her for some reason.
Attention whore. That's a understatement, she making herself a millionaire off the Sheeple.
Found this today:
One area where McCain does not stumble is her take on Sarah Palin's "disastrous" interview with CBS News' Katie Couric before the vice presidential debate, when Palin couldn't even state what newspapers she read.
"Katie Couric's interview with her before the vice presidential debate had been disastrous. Unhappy with her performance, Palin seemed to blame the interview on the campaign. And she continued to blame other poor interviews and snafus on the campaign too," McCain writes. "Sarah Palin. She was turning out to be somebody who leaves a wake of confusion and chaos -- to the point of dizziness -- wherever she went."
At first, the chaos was overwhelming, McCain said.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Politics/exclusive-meghan-mccain-breaks-silence-sarah-palin/story?id=11521614
^^ I guess Meghan McCain thinks Sarah Palin is pretty 'effin stupid too. :rotfl:
Quote from: The Troll on August 31, 2010, 02:16:33 PM
Attention whore. That's a understatement, she making herself a millionaire off the Sheeple.
So I guess there is no one going to dem gatherings and speaking and no one but her going to the republican gatherings then. Like I said, why focus the attention on just her?
Of course there is, but apparently none as stupid. ;D Of course that would be a lil' difficult to be.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on September 01, 2010, 09:33:20 AM
Of course there is, but apparently none as stupid. ;D Of course that would be a lil' difficult to be.
Since everyone is so focused on Palin how would you know?
I'm guessing that sounded good in your head? ;D
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on September 01, 2010, 12:08:59 PM
I'm guessing that sounded good in your head? ;D
You mean like beating on a drum inside a big,
empty steel pipe? :icon_twisted:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on September 01, 2010, 12:08:59 PM
I'm guessing that sounded good in your head? ;D
Ok let me rephrase that. If everyone paid as much attention to the rest of the people who are doing the exact same thing she is doing only for the dems I'll bet there would be a lot of stupid stuff said and mistakes made. The media seems to be so busy hanging on to her every word they ignore every one else.
Quote from: me on September 01, 2010, 04:26:15 PM
Ok let me rephrase that. If everyone paid as much attention to the rest of the people who are doing the exact same thing she is doing only for the dems I'll bet there would be a lot of stupid stuff said and mistakes made. The media seems to be so busy hanging on to her every word they ignore every one else.
Me, it doesn't make a bit of difference....Sarah could have a cure for cancer and speak 20 languages, and they would STILL find something to beyooch about.....but, let the VP of the United States continue being an idiot like he has been since he was selected...and you hardly hear thing about it.....
I personaly think liberals are terrified that she may very well get elected, and become their worst nightmare, when she shows them HOW to fix a broken economy.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 01, 2010, 05:05:18 PM
when she shows them HOW to fix a broken economy.
You mean like she did in Wasilla?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 01, 2010, 05:05:18 PM
Me, it doesn't make a bit of difference....Sarah could have a cure for cancer and speak 20 languages, and they would STILL find something to beyooch about.....but, let the VP of the United States continue being an idiot like he has been since he was selected...and you hardly hear thing about it.....
I personaly think liberals are terrified that she may very well get elected, and become their worst nightmare, when she shows them HOW to fix a broken economy.
You could be her vice-president. Why Hawk? :chick: You're both brain dead. :flap: :flap: :flap: :genius:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 01, 2010, 05:05:18 PM
Me, it doesn't make a bit of difference....Sarah could have a cure for cancer and speak 20 languages, and they would STILL find something to beyooch about.....but, let the VP of the United States continue being an idiot like he has been since he was selected...and you hardly hear thing about it.....
I personaly think liberals are terrified that she may very well get elected, and become their worst nightmare, when she shows them HOW to fix a broken economy.
Ya, they never say a word about that piece of work who is our VP.
Quote from: me on September 01, 2010, 07:42:13 PM
Ya, they never say a word about that piece of work who is our VP.
I would like to see them debate. "ME" I'd bet you any day, $1000 on Joe against Sarah on U.S. Gorverment, World Goverment, history. Any thing on how to run this country. I'd love taking you money. Sarah is a dumbass and you know it. :biggrin:
Quote from: The Troll on September 01, 2010, 08:02:11 PM
I would like to see them debate. "ME" I'd bet you any day, $1000 on Joe against Sarah on U.S. Gorverment, World Goverment, history. Any thing on how to run this country. I'd love taking you money. Sarah is a dumbass and you know it. :biggrin:
Ya right.....you go with that Troll....you just go with that...
I'm sure that Sarah seems like a pretty smart gal to 'me' and Henry. :yes:
You betcha! :wink:
I was just voted team mom for my daughter's soccer team, does that mean I'm a soccer mom and if so, should I be concerned about morphing into a Sarah Palin like creature? :spooked: :puke:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on September 08, 2010, 06:17:23 PM
I was just voted team mom for my daughter's soccer team, does that mean I'm a soccer mom....
No darlin', it means you have to bring the refreshments.
Okay, but does that qualify me to be president? :biggrin:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on September 08, 2010, 08:44:34 PM
Okay, but does that qualify me to be president? :biggrin:
Indeed it does! Now, you'll be needing a protection team. . . :icon_twisted:
Oh goody! PH, would you be kind enough to be my VP? and I'd like to appoint Lolly as our speech writer (all my facts will be checked, cross referenced and rechecked, so we won't look like dumbasses). Troll and SOP can be co-directors of our security force. I want to appoint FTW and Olias to some lofty position where analytical thinking is a plus, but has been missing for a while...I'll let them choose. I'm thinking something economy or finance related for Ex and in his spare time, he can back up Troll and SOP :biggrin: I'd like Y to be my press secretary. Can you imagine how confused the assholes at Faux would be after one round w/him? I think he can double as a supreme court justice. Kimmi would be the direcor of the Department of education. vxn could hold a post with the Smithsonian. Locutus could be director of the religion and recreation department and in his spare time oversee the Supreme Court. That leaves "me" and "Henry"...court jesters ;D
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on September 08, 2010, 11:27:15 PM
Oh goody! PH, would you be kind enough to be my VP? and I'd like to appoint Lolly as our speech writer (all my facts will be checked, cross referenced and rechecked, so we won't look like dumbasses). Troll and SOP can be co-directors of our security force. I want to appoint FTW and Olias to some lofty position where analytical thinking is a plus, but has been missing for a while...I'll let them choose. I'm thinking something economy or finance related for Ex and in his spare time, he can back up Troll and SOP :biggrin: I'd like Y to be my press secretary. Can you imagine how confused the assholes at Faux would be after one round w/him? I think he can double as a supreme court justice. Kimmi would be the direcor of the Department of education. vxn could hold a post with the Smithsonian. Locutus could be director of the religion and recreation department and in his spare time oversee the Supreme Court. That leaves "me" and "Henry"...court jesters ;D
:chick: and :me: for court jesters. Worth a million dollars. :rotfl:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on September 08, 2010, 11:27:15 PM
Oh goody! PH, would you be kind enough to be my VP? and I'd like to appoint Lolly as our speech writer (all my facts will be checked, cross referenced and rechecked, so we won't look like dumbasses). Troll and SOP can be co-directors of our security force. I want to appoint FTW and Olias to some lofty position where analytical thinking is a plus, but has been missing for a while...I'll let them choose. I'm thinking something economy or finance related for Ex and in his spare time, he can back up Troll and SOP :biggrin: I'd like Y to be my press secretary. Can you imagine how confused the assholes at Faux would be after one round w/him? I think he can double as a supreme court justice. Kimmi would be the direcor of the Department of education. vxn could hold a post with the Smithsonian. Locutus could be director of the religion and recreation department and in his spare time oversee the Supreme Court. That leaves "me" and "Henry"...court jesters ;D
If you put vxn in as the chief dietitian, I'm out. No "Puffs" for me. :knife:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on September 08, 2010, 11:27:15 PM
... and I'd like to appoint Lolly as our speech writer ...
Talk cash. I had intended to be directing the revolution, but for proper remuneration I can moonlight. So long as you remember the importance of the refreshments.
Lester would be very effective in foreign affairs. Somehow, when he speaks in his solemn, determined, yet threatening voice ... language barriers just disappear.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on September 08, 2010, 11:27:15 PM
Oh goody! PH, would you be kind enough to be my VP? and I'd like to appoint Lolly as our speech writer (all my facts will be checked, cross referenced and rechecked, so we won't look like dumbasses). Troll and SOP can be co-directors of our security force. I want to appoint FTW and Olias to some lofty position where analytical thinking is a plus, but has been missing for a while...I'll let them choose. I'm thinking something economy or finance related for Ex and in his spare time, he can back up Troll and SOP :biggrin: I'd like Y to be my press secretary. Can you imagine how confused the assholes at Faux would be after one round w/him? I think he can double as a supreme court justice. Kimmi would be the direcor of the Department of education. vxn could hold a post with the Smithsonian. Locutus could be director of the religion and recreation department and in his spare time oversee the Supreme Court. That leaves "me" and "Henry"...court jesters ;D
:food24: :rotfl: :spooked: Umm. . . errr.. . . Yes! Count me in! :yes:
One of my first acts as VP is going to be to consult with the Secretary of Religion about abolishment of all organized religion. Knowing how so many americans will feel lost without something to give them a direction, we will replace it with mandatory attendance each month of a tour in the nearest memorial park of the civil war battlegrounds. Historians will provide an hours long tour of each site, along with a two hour documentary video that presents the result of religious competition around the world. No graphic image warnings will be provided despite the inclusion of same.
Quote from: Palehorse on September 09, 2010, 12:58:45 PM
One of my first acts as VP is going to be to consult with the Secretary of Religion about abolishment of all organized religion. Knowing how so many americans will feel lost without something to give them a direction, we will replace it with mandatory attendance each month of a tour in the nearest memorial park of the civil war battlegrounds. Historians will provide an hours long tour of each site, along with a two hour documentary video that presents the result of religious competition around the world. No graphic image warnings will be provided despite the inclusion of same.
Hmmmmm? Can I still commune with the trees as long as I don't try to proselytize the turtle worshipers?
You think they don't have a hard enough shell to ignore it?
Yeah, you're right. But then I still have to deal with the idiots who talk to the birds that are sitting in my trees.
Quote from: Olias on September 09, 2010, 01:14:49 PM
Hmmmmm? Can I still commune with the trees as long as I don't try to proselytize the turtle worshipers?
Quote from: followsthewolf on September 09, 2010, 01:17:37 PM
You think they don't have a hard enough shell to ignore it?
Quote from: Olias on September 09, 2010, 01:14:49 PM
Hmmmmm? Can I still commune with the trees as long as I don't try to proselytize the turtle worshipers?
The government will endorse no religion, as it says in the constitution. However, no religion shall enjoy tax free status, nor shall it be capable of influencing government or its peoples.
Hey, its a work in progress and my description of its intention is simply a brief synopsis of the vision, and not intended to represent an all inclusive statement of its scope. :biggrin:
Quote from: Palehorse on September 09, 2010, 01:26:41 PM
The government will endorse no religion, as it says in the constitution. However, no religion shall enjoy tax free status, nor shall it be capable of influencing government or its peoples.
Hey, its a work in progress and my description of its intention is simply a brief synopsis of the vision, and not intended to represent an all inclusive statement of its scope. :biggrin:
It's all good! As long as you don't tax the trees! :biggrin:
Or try to cut them all down to build more houses and them name the streets after them. :rant:
Quote from: Olias on September 09, 2010, 01:56:06 PM
It's all good! As long as you don't tax the trees! :biggrin:
Or try to cut them all down to build more houses and them name the streets after them. :rant:
NO WORRIES THERE! You guys already know the candidate for POTUS's views on such things! I am aligned with her! :yes: :biggrin:
Quote from: Olias on September 09, 2010, 01:19:05 PM
Yeah, you're right. But then I still have to deal with the idiots who talk to the birds that are sitting in my trees.
Yeah.
Those tree s(h)itters are always a problem.
Never know where to point their peckers.
Quote from: followsthewolf on September 09, 2010, 03:25:18 PM
Yeah.
Those tree s(h)itters are always a problem.
Never know where to point their peckers.
:biggrin:
Quote from: followsthewolf on September 09, 2010, 01:17:37 PM
You think they don't have a hard enough shell to ignore it?
"The Turtle Moves!" --
Terry Pratchett
:smile:
Quote from: LOsborne on September 09, 2010, 08:07:47 AM
Talk cash. I had intended to be directing the revolution, but for proper remuneration I can moonlight. So long as you remember the importance of the refreshments.
Lester would be very effective in foreign affairs. Somehow, when he speaks in his solemn, determined, yet threatening voice ... language barriers just disappear.
Well, based on your superior ability to cut through the BS to the truth of the matter, I'm willing negotiate your salary. I hope that we can come to a mutual agreement, because your country needs you. :smile:
Although now I'm wondering if perhaps I've missassigned you. :think: There's little question to your qualifications as researcher, but you also give really good advice and therefore might be better suited as an advisor. Plenty of refreshments, indeed! We need a Margarita Czar! ;D
I also like your advice regarding Lester. I think his talents are extremely valuable!
Quote from: Palehorse on September 09, 2010, 01:57:39 PM
NO WORRIES THERE! You guys already know the candidate for POTUS's views on such things! I am aligned with her! :yes: :biggrin:
:biggrin:
YES WE CAN...............HUG TREES ;D
Too copycatish?
We need to reach out to our botanical friends. They're a consistantly overlooked segment of the population. ;D
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on September 09, 2010, 10:40:45 PM
Well, based on your superior ability to cut through the BS to the truth of the matter, I'm willing negotiate your salary. I hope that we can come to a mutual agreement, because your country needs you. :smile:
Although now I'm wondering if perhaps I've missassigned you. :think: There's little question to your qualifications as researcher, but you also give really good advice and therefore might be better suited as an advisor. Plenty of refreshments, indeed! We need a Margarita Czar! ;D
I also like your advice regarding Lester. I think his talents are extremely valuable!
Nothing wrong with economizing and having a person wear multiple hats. I am in agreement with the Czarina of Margaritas!
Quote from: Palehorse on September 09, 2010, 01:26:41 PM
The government will endorse no religion, as it says in the constitution. However, no religion shall enjoy tax free status, nor shall it be capable of influencing government or its peoples.
Hey, its a work in progress and my description of its intention is simply a brief synopsis of the vision, and not intended to represent an all inclusive statement of its scope. :biggrin:
I love it! We can use some the taxes we collect from the freeloading churches to pay Lolly. (I think that one's gonna cost us, but she's worth it). Now that I think about it, perhaps Troll can help us collect those taxes. I think he'd be extremely persuasive. :icon_twisted:
You'd be wastin' his time and yours 'cause they'd just close their doors and move elsewhere like the businesses do. :razz:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on September 09, 2010, 10:48:07 PM
I love it! We can use some the taxes we collect from the freeloading churches to pay Lolly. (I think that one's gonna cost us, but she's worth it). Now that I think about it, perhaps Troll can help us collect those taxes. I think he'd be extremely persuasive. :icon_twisted:
I should care if churches move elsewhere because......
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on September 10, 2010, 06:01:22 AM
I should care if churches move elsewhere because......
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on September 09, 2010, 10:48:07 PM
I love it! We can use some the taxes we collect from the freeloading churches to pay Lolly. (I think that one's gonna cost us, but she's worth it). Now that I think about it, perhaps Troll can help us collect those taxes. I think he'd be extremely persuasive. :icon_twisted:
I don't think we'd have to worry about Churches going anywhere, but even if they did, we've survived how long w/out making them pull their weight tax-wise?
Let the churches move. Just freeze their assets first. See, wasn't that easy?
My duties as Rapid Margarita Mixing Team Leader for the PPDC may be a conflict of interest. However, a truly trust-worthy person (one who comes with her own shovel) could possibly persuade me to disclose the secret ingredient. Lester claims it's ***** liquor, but he'll say anything.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on September 10, 2010, 07:41:25 AM
I don't think we'd have to worry about Churches going anywhere, but even if they did, we've survived how long w/out making them pull their weight tax-wise?
That's for sure, they sure don't pay any taxes. Like the two churches in my town. both own a whole block in the center of town. It's like a black hole, money goes in, but nothing comes out in the form of property taxes. Two whole blocks lost. The sure don't do a damn thing for me.
Quote from: LOsborne on September 10, 2010, 08:01:33 AM
Let the churches move. Just freeze their assets first. See, wasn't that easy?
See what I mean? Great advice!
Quote from: LOsborne on September 10, 2010, 08:01:33 AM
My duties as Rapid Margarita Mixing Team Leader for the PPDC may be a conflict of interest. However, a truly trust-worthy person (one who comes with her own shovel) could possibly persuade me to disclose the secret ingredient. Lester claims it's ***** liquor, but he'll say anything.
I know someone who knows someone that claims she's great w/a shovel, but I do understand your reservations, the last thing that I want to do is piss off the PPDC. ;D
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on September 10, 2010, 07:41:25 AM
I don't think we'd have to worry about Churches going anywhere, but even if they did, we've survived how long w/out making them pull their weight tax-wise?
But will Lolly's union let her work for nothing if there's no way to pay her because the churches all move away and there's no taxes there to collect or assets to freeze?
Quote from: me on September 10, 2010, 12:30:54 PM
But will Lolly's union let her work for nothing if there's no way to pay her because the churches all move away and there's no taxes there to collect or assets to freeze?
Whaaaaaaaaat? :me: I think that was the dumbest question you have ever asked. Read it to yourself again.
You know. . . I've had time to think about this and I am now convinced that Sarah will play the retard card when confronted with a superior opponent! (And the problem is it will be the first truthful claim she has made!)
Nuf said? Gotta have a union too remember so ya'll are treated fairily..... :wink:
Quote from: The Troll on September 10, 2010, 12:36:05 PM
Whaaaaaaaaat? :me: I think that was the dumbest question you have ever asked. Read it to yourself again.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on September 09, 2010, 10:48:07 PM
I love it! We can use some the taxes we collect from the freeloading churches to pay Lolly. (I think that one's gonna cost us, but she's worth it). Now that I think about it, perhaps Troll can help us collect those taxes. I think he'd be extremely persuasive. :icon_twisted:
Quote from: me on September 10, 2010, 12:44:19 PM
Nuf said? Gotta have a union too remember so ya'll are treated fairily..... :wink:
Remember the preacher, I think it was Dr. Cadle's son. In Indianapolis. The preacher who wasn't going to pay his empoyees Social Security taxes. Yes sir, one smart :koolaid: drinking fool.
Remember how he stood out in front of "his" church as they sold it. :rotfl: :rotfl: God didn't intervine, did he. :rotfl: :rotfl:
I'd sell any church property if they wouldn't pay taxes. :trustme:
QuoteThis morning, Think Progress and the Huffington Post both reported that Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin are planning to hold a 9/11 event in Alaska. It's supposedly a commemoration of the victims that you can attend for the low, low price of $73.75-$225 a ticket. To make things even better, there's no indication where the proceeds will go although the event was previously rumoured to be a political platform for Palin to announce her bid for the 2012 presidency. So much for Palin's high and mighty sensitivity to 9/11 victims...
I'd wonder what FOX NEWS has to say about this, but they seem to be too busy attacking Obama's 9/11 plans.
http://www.newshounds.us/2010/09/08/palin_and_becks_great_911_exploiticon_what_say_you_fox_news.php#more
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on September 10, 2010, 05:54:31 PM
http://www.newshounds.us/2010/09/08/palin_and_becks_great_911_exploiticon_what_say_you_fox_news.php#more
If palin and beck are the heroes of the public, there really isn't any fucking hope for the country...
Palin enables Beck's extreme rhetoric
October 11, 2010 8:35 am ET — 26 Comments
As John Hamilton reported, alleged California highway shooter Byron Williams described Glenn Beck as "a schoolteacher" and said that "it was the things [Beck] exposed that blew my mind." One of Beck's biggest supporters has been Sarah Palin, who has appeared at Beck's events, praised his "wisdom," and encouraged followers to watch his conspiracy-laden programs.
Palin enables Beck
Beck's long history of violent rhetoric. As Media Matters for America has documented, Beck frequently spews violent rhetoric and pushes conspiracy theories about progressives.
Palin has appeared on Beck's Fox News program three times. Beck has hosted Palin on his Fox News program on three occasions: on March 18, January 13, and January 19, 2009 (Beck's first broadcast on Fox News).
During his January 13 interview with Palin, Beck read her an entry from his diary: "Tomorrow, I meet Sarah Palin and family for the first time. I'm actually a little nervous -- as she is one of the only people that I can see that can possibly lead us out of where we are. I don't know yet if she's strong enough, if she's well-enough advised, or if she knows she can no longer trust anyone. I don't know if she can lead and not lose her soul."
Palin wrote Beck's "Time 100" article. Palin wrote Beck's article in Time magazine's annual issue profiling the 100 "people who most affect our world." Palin wrote: "Who'd have thought a history buff with a quirky sense of humor and a chalkboard could make for such riveting television? Glenn's like the high school government teacher so many wish they'd had, charting and connecting ideas with chalk-dusted fingers -- kicking it old school -- instead of becoming just another talking-heads show host. ... His love of the Founding Fathers inspires others to learn and respect our nation's history. Best of all, Glenn delights in driving the self-proclaimed powers-that-be crazy." [Time, 4/29/10]
Palin and Beck hosted 9-11 event in Alaska. On September 7, Palin wrote a note on Facebook inviting followers to join her and Beck at a ticketed event on 9-11. Palin wrote: "We can count on Glenn to make the night interesting and inspiring, and I can think of no better way to commemorate 9/11 than to gather with patriots who will 'never forget.' Hope to see you there!" The Associated Press wrote in a September 12 article that at the event, "Palin applauded the conservative commentator as an inspiration for millions, saying he represents why so many citizens never have to apologize for being American."
Palin spoke at Beck's "Restoring Honor" rally on the National Mall. Palin spoke at Beck's 8-28 "Restoring Honor" rally in Washington, D.C. During her "non-political" speech, Palin said: "I must assume that you too, knowing that, no, we must not fundamentally transform America as some would want, we must restore America and restore her honor." Following the rally, Palin tweeted: "Please watch the entire rally. Honorable & inspirational from beginning to end. Listen to Dr. Alveda King, Beck, et al!" On August 29, Palin tweeted: "Silly media reports'maybe thousands'@Beck's 'irrelevant' event;insinuating MSM sheeple mustn't believe their own eyes&ears re: event's truth."
Palin: "Lamestream media: watch rerun of Glenn Beck's show today." In a September 13 tweet, Palin wrote: "Lamestream media: watch rerun of Glenn Beck's show today. Listen/Learn/Don't underestimate the wisdom of the people. Times,they r a'changin!"
On his September 13 show, Beck claimed that "there's a lot of us" who think America isn't going to "continue as a country" much longer, and told viewers: "There is an effort in this country to dismantle the free-market system."
Palin said Beck "hit the nail on the head" in CPAC speech. On February 20, Palin tweeted: "@GlennBeck hit the nail on the head in his #CPAC speech: USA is the abiding beacon of freedom & we need 'less Marx, more Madison'!" During the speech, Beck suggested a liberal "minority" has "hijack[ed]" America and claimed that "
- ur government looks at the American people as the bad guy," that "[e]conomic holocaust is coming," and that "[p]rogressivism is the cancer in America and it is eating our Constitution."
Palin promoted Beck's documentary linking progressives to atrocities of communism. On January 22, Palin tweeted: "Pls watch Glenn Beck's FOX documentary on Friday to learn about 'manufactured crisis'-mode of govt operatives that lead to harmful proposals." In previewing his documentary on communist atrocities, Beck promised to show what "progressives don't want you to know." Beck opened his documentary by citing Che Guevara, Joseph Stalin, and Mao Zedong as "left-wing icons." Beck also suggested that Adolph Hitler was a liberal and claimed that Soviet genocide has been "erased" from history books.
Palin invited her "friends" to watch Beck exposé on "who is actually running the White House." On August 26, 2009, Palin posted a note on Facebook inviting her "friends" to watch Beck. Palin wrote: "FOX News' Glenn Beck is doing an extraordinary job this week walking America behind the scenes of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and outlining who is actually running the White House. Monday night he asked us to invite one friend to watch; tonight I invite all my friends to watch."
During the week of August 26, 2009, Beck's shows regularly featured violent and paranoid rhetoric. On August 26, 2009, for instance, Beck told viewers they "are about to lose your freedom of speech" and suggested there could be a Venezuela-type "clampdown":
BECK: Is this America? Is it? Ask yourself that question. These are reasonable questions in apparently unreasonable times.
Is this the way we decide how things happen? Do we have these shadow operations with these new czars or advisers or whatever the hell they want to call them, calling the shots? And doing it with a hidden agenda? Doing it slowly, quietly behind the scenes and then, boom! There it is.
You are about to lose your freedom of speech in this country. If you disagree with that, please contact me and tell me how, because I'd like to live in that world. I'd like to believe that. But with everything else I have shown you this week, and then you see the clampdown by somebody who is extolling the virtues of the revolution in Venezuela, I don't know how you see that.
Could somebody, please -- I mean this sincerely -- please explain to me how this isn't anti-capitalist, revolutionary in nature, and anti-constitutional? How is this -- how does this resemble our republic and our First Amendment at all? Please answer that question.
On August 27, Beck also cropped President Obama's remarks to fearmonger about Obama's "civilian national security force." As Media Matters has repeatedly noted, Obama made his comments about the necessity of a "civilian national security force" in a July 2, 2008, speech on service and referred to expanding the Foreign Service, AmeriCorps, and the Peace Corps. Beck claimed that Obama's "civilian national security force" is "what Hitler did with the SS. He had his own people. He had the brown shirts and then the SS. This is what Saddam Hussein" did.
Beck also mentioned Soros and Tides that week. For instance, Beck wondered how many members of the administration are part of a "communist, socialist society" and asked: "What role does George Soros play in all of this?" From Beck's August 25, 2009, show (retrieved from Nexis):
BECK: All this week, we are asking questions. I may not have the answers but I have a whole lot of questions and you should, too. These are just from tonight's show. Who is surrounding the president at the White House? Do any of the president's advisors have criminal records?
President's advisors work to better the country or for their own ideals? Who are the anti-capitalists in Washington? What role do they have in crafting any of the bills, especially the jobs creations? What was STORM? What happened to the founders? Where are they now?
What are the qualifications to be a czar or a presidential advisor? What's the difference between a community organizer and a community activist? Is there? Do these czars have power, real power? Should a communist have the ear of the president of the United States?
America, please, answer that question, please. What role did the Apollo Alliance play in crafting the bill? Does the president know that the cofounder of the Weather Underground is a board member of the Apollo Alliance that crafted the stimulus package?
How many people in this administration are connected to the Movement for a Democratic Society? That is a communist, socialist society, developed in 2006. What role does George Soros play in all of this? Where is the Constitution?
On his August 27, 2009, show (from Nexis), Beck and right-wing pundit Michelle Malkin discussed the alleged connections between the Tides Foundation, Soros, ACORN, and the Obama administration:
MALKIN: Glenn, you have talked numerous times on your show about the Tides Foundation, and the connection between Tides an Drum & Pike, and ACORN. There is a direct relationship between ACORN and President Obama.
BECK: Michelle --
MALKIN: President Obama's campaign paid $832,000 to an ACORN front group. The connections are far greater on the left between the Democrat Party and these fringe groups than they are on the right and the Republicans.
[...]
BECK: This week I have been telling you, ask questions. Here are the questions from just today. We have more. You will find them on the website at Glennbeck.com.
I told you that we were going to talk about these things. We were going to talk about Obama, the Left, internationalists, graft, ACORN-style organizations, revolution and hidden agenda. Oligarh -- one letter is missing. Why did I select these words, because ACORN selects Tides, they all select their words first, and then tie them altogether into one word. Oligarch, the only letter that is missing is Y. I don't know what we're turning into an oligarchy, or what we're turning into, but unless you ask why, we're going to transform into something. Ask questions.
Now, the second part of this, a few months ago, I told you, you got to know you're not alone. You've got to know. You got to unite. Talk to people. Make sure you know you're not alone, through the 9/12 project. We started that. Millions all involved across the country and the 9/12 project and other organizations like it. I knew we needed to connect with one another.
Byron Williams reportedly told investigators that "his intention was to start a revolution by traveling to San Francisco and killing people of importance at the Tides Foundation and the ACLU." He also assailed Soros during his interview with reporter John Hamilton.
-- Media Matters Staff
http://mediamatters.org/research/201010110020 (http://mediamatters.org/research/201010110020)
Palin claims someone is "pulling [Obama's] strings," warns of Iran "Armageddon"
Palin smears Obama as "naïve," claims "whomever it is who's pulling his strings" won't let him institute free-market principles. During Newsmax's October 12 "Making America Great Again" webcast, Palin said that Obama's policies "lean towards" being socialist, adding:
It's the free-market system that built America, that allowed us to be so prosperous and safe and generous, that will work. But he won't apply those principles because I think he's quite naïve. I think he's stubborn. I think whomever it is who's pulling his strings will not let -- because the ideology involved in all of this will get in the way -- they will not let him admit what we know from history, that those free-market principles will certainly work better than socialism.
Palin: Nuclear Iran could lead to "Armageddon." After describing Iranian leader Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as among "evil, evil dictators ... evil men who would think that they are going to control America and make us fearful," Palin said that "we have to show our steel spine and we have to tell them that, yes, military option will be on our table." Palin added:
We need to remind Russia that any assistance given to Ahmedinejad -- given to Iran -- we have to realize that at the end of the day, a nuclear weapon in that country's hands is not just Israel's problem or America's problem, it is the world's problem. It could lead to an Armageddon. It could lead to that World War III that could decimate so much of this planet.
Palin: Sharia law will be "the downfall of America." Palin said that "Americans will never stand for sharia law being the law of the land," adding:
Whether it be just affecting a segment of the population, a demographic, certainly not in its entirety all over our country, Americans will not stand for this because Americans are smart enough to know Sharia law, if that were to be adopted -- allowed to govern in our country, it will be the downfall of America. And too many Americans are onto this already and are starting to rise up and send that message to our federal officials and say, no, we will not put up with any hint of Sharia law being any sort of law of the land.
Palin: Obama "bows and kowtows and pokes our allies in the eye." Later in the interview, Palin accused Obama of lacking "that humbleness where he can look back and see what has worked throughout history, what has failed, so that we can repeat the successes." She also claimed that Obama "bows and kowtows and pokes our allies in the eye, which makes absolutely no sense."
Attacks echo those made by Palin's right-wing compatriots
Beck, Limbaugh have portrayed Obama as a "puppet." In discussing a "class war" chess game, Beck portrayed Barack and Michelle Obama as "pawns" that are "meaningless," while the "king" is George Soros. Beck has also said that "the question you have to answer is" if Obama is "the president, or is he a puppet," adding that "you can at least make the case" that Obama is a "puppet." Rush Limbaugh has suggested Obama is a puppet by saying: "Soros may be running Obama. Who the hell knows?"
Beck has repeatedly invoked Armageddon imagery. Beck has praised a book by evangelist John Hagee that cites "the maniacal nuclear ambitions of the theocratic dictatorship in Iran" as part of a "perfect storm" resulting in the current "terminal generation" fulfilling "Bible prophecy for the first time in world history." Beck has praised Hagee as "the guy that really has spoken about Iran and Israel an awful lot," then commented that "a lot of the pieces" for the Second Coming "are here now." Beck has touted another book warning of "end-time occurrences and the financial warnings that are pointing us toward the Armageddon of the Bible." Beck has even invoked the film Armageddon to criticize the Obama administration's response to the Gulf oil spill.
Gingrich: "We should have a federal law" to ban courts from applying Sharia. Gingrich asserted at the September 18 Values Voter Summit that "what threatens America are radical Islamists," adding that "I am totally opposed to any effort to impose Sharia on the United States" adding, "We should have a federal law that says under no circumstance in any jurisdiction in the United States will Sharia be used by any court to apply to any judgment made about American law. ... [N]o judge will remain in office who tries to use Sharia law to interpret the American Constitution." Sean Hannity, Frank Gaffney, Pam Geller, and Jim Quinn have also fearmongered about Sharia law.
Conservative media obsessed with Obama's alleged bowing. Palin's claim that Obama "bows and kowtows" echo previous fixations on such behavior by conservative media and commentators such as Beck, Hannity, Geller, and Neal Boortz.
Palin brings "death panels" falsehood back to life
Palin repeats debunked "death panels" claim. Palin said that "I was about laughed out of town for bringing to light what I call death panels, because there's going to be faceless bureaucrats who will, based on cost analysis and some subjective idea on somebody's level of productivity in life, somebody is going to call the shots as to whether your loved one will be able to receive health care or not. To me, death panel -- I called it like I saw it, and people didn't like it."
Previous Palin "death panel" claims were false. As Media Matters for America has repeatedly documented, there are no "death panels" in the health care reform law. Palin originally claimed that such "panels" were created by a proposed provision that would have provided for voluntary, Medicare subsidized end-of-life counseling sessions. After that claim was thoroughly debunked, she said her comments concerned Dr. Ezekial Emanuel's purported position of rationing, which was based on a distorted version of his views. She later claimed that the Independent Payment Advisory Board established under the law amounted to a "death panel" because it would create a "panel of bureaucrats charged with cutting health care costs on the backs of patients; in fact, the law specifically prohibits the Advisory Board from making "any recommendations to ration health care ... or otherwise restrict benefits."
Palin invents Obama "lie" on health care
Palin misrepresents Obama statement on health care costs. In claiming that the health care reform bill was "full of lies," Palin said that "we had been promised that this would bend the cost curve. And actually what we're finding out now is that even our president admits that, well, he knew all along that in the margins, costs would actually increase." This is an apparent reference to a September 10 statement by Obama, responding to a Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) report on health care reform, that "As a consequence of us getting 30 million additional people health care, at the margins that's going to increase our costs -- we knew that. ... We didn't think that we were going to cover 30 million people for free."
In fact, increase comes from more people being covered, not higher costs for care. The Washington Post's Ezra Klein wrote in a September 10 blog post about the CMS report:
So even in the most simplistic analysis, we're covering about 10 percent of the country and increasing spending growth by 0.2 percent. Seems like a good deal to me. But it's actually a better deal than that.
[...]
What you're seeing here isn't the cost curve bending up. It's a one-time increase in the level of spending. That's the big jump in 2014, the year the exchanges and subsidies come online. So when you compare 2014 to 2013, spending growth seems like it's gone up a bunch. But by 2016, we're back to normal. In fact, we're better than normal: "For 2015-19, national health spending is now projected to increase 6.7 percent per year, on average -- slightly less than the 6.8 percent average annual growth rate projected in February 2010."
In other words, 2014 is a one-time increase in spending level as we get 30 million new people covered. After 2014, costs grow more slowly than they would without the health-care reform bill. And as some of you know, the major spending controls, like the excise tax and the Medicare board, only really start in 2018, so we can expect spending to slow even more in the years beyond this projection. And that, of course, is exactly what the Congressional Budget Office found when it looked at the bill on a longer timeframe.
So, the nickel version: Spending goes up in 2014 because we're covering 30 million new people and then down after that because we're controlling costs in the system.
http://mediamatters.org/research/201010120041 (http://mediamatters.org/research/201010120041)
The examples just keep rolling in.
(CNN) –For a lot of Republicans, an endorsement from former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin is the gold standard of conservative street cred.
West Virginia Republican Senate candidate John Raese received such a nod this morning, except her endorsement was for a Senate seat in ... Pennsylvania.
In a now-deleted tweet, Palin wrote, "Pennsylvania:makes sense 2 send GOP 2 DC 2 avoid PA economic disaster that will occur under Obama/Pelosi Cap & Tax scheme;workers need Raese."
Apparently, ole' Sarah can't even keep her states straight. :rotfl:
Joe Biden....................that is all I need to say.
If you want to talk about Biden's gaffes, start your own thread. :razz:
This thread is about Sarah Palin. :biggrin:
Quote from: Locutus on October 19, 2010, 04:32:56 PM
If you want to talk about Biden's gaffes, start your own thread. :razz:
This thread is about Sarah Palin. :biggrin:
naw, just tryin to keep this one in perspective... :razz: ......comparativly speaking, she is NOT , THAT 'f'ing stupid..... :no:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 19, 2010, 04:58:13 PM
naw, just tryin to keep this one in perspective... :razz: ......comparativly speaking, she is NOT , THAT 'f'ing stupid..... :no:
Compared to who? The rest of her family?
Barbara Walters - "You became famous for impregnating a 17-year-old girl. You're 20 years old, you don't have a high school diploma yet, you don't have a trade. Now you're running for mayor. Would it not be better for you, instead of seeking publicity, to learn a trade, to find a job, to get an education and to support your son?"
When asked what are his qualifications to be Mayor, Levi misses the point entirely and says, "You gotta live in the city limits for one year." *head smack*
Whoopi asks him what his platform is and Levi responds, "At this point in time, I couldn't tell you. I said I was running for mayor, what, a month ago?"
Sigh. Actually, it was almost three months ago. Not that that makes any difference."
He'll probably get elected too. :biggrin:
After all, they elected Sarah and started off that nasty gift that keeps on giving.
Now hopefully, Christine O'Donnell won't be around nearly as long as Sarah Palin, but if she is, maybe we should start a thread about how stupid she is.
http://www.youtube.com/v/JdOpo-pNhWc
Quote from: Locutus on October 19, 2010, 05:42:07 PM
Now hopefully, Christine O'Donnell won't be around nearly as long as Sarah Palin, but if she is, maybe we should start a thread about how stupid she is.
http://www.youtube.com/v/JdOpo-pNhWc
Seriously. . . with jackasses like this running for public office, how long is it going to take this country to collapse upon itself?
Quote from: Palehorse on October 19, 2010, 05:46:35 PM
Seriously. . . with jackasses like this running for public office, how long is it going to take this country to collapse upon itself?
The sooner, the better. When the inmates are running the asylum, anything change is for the better.
And then there are certain people who think there are 56 states.....damn ain't none of those politicians got any kind of an edumacation? Oh crap there I go again.......I forgot...dems misspeak republicans are dumb..... :doh:
Quote from: me on October 19, 2010, 07:06:18 PM
And then there are certain people who think there are 56 states.....damn ain't none of those politicians got any kind of an edumacation? Oh crap there I go again.......I forgot...dems misspeak republicans are dumb..... :doh:
I'll refer you to the McDonnell video that I posted. Defend that if you can and tell me she isn't dumb. Believe me, if it were a Democrat saying that, I would be saying the same thing about them.
Uh, hate to break this to you but the person who thinks there are 56 states is caught on tape too. :wink:
Quote from: Locutus on October 19, 2010, 07:11:07 PM
I'll refer you to the McDonnell video that I posted. Defend that if you can and tell me she isn't dumb. Believe me, if it were a Democrat saying that, I would be saying the same thing about them.
Quote from: me on October 19, 2010, 07:45:51 PM
Uh, hate to break this to you but the person who thinks there are 56 states is caught on tape too. :wink:
58 states is a misstatement. O'Donnell goes on and on about her thoughts in that video over the course of several minutes. Not a comparison. :wink:
Now, I'll wait on your defense of O'Donnell.
Quote from: Locutus on October 19, 2010, 07:50:12 PM
. . .
Now, I'll wait on your defense of O'Donnell.
She's a witch! Burn her! (And Palin too!)
Quote from: Palehorse on October 19, 2010, 07:51:52 PM
She's a witch! Burn her! (And Palin too!)
Can't burn Palin. She's got ole' Jeebus out there to protect her from such.
Let's pray for Saaaraaa.
http://www.youtube.com/v/D050F7T6Avc
:biggrin:
Quote from: Palehorse on October 19, 2010, 07:51:52 PM
She's a witch! Burn her! (And Palin too!)
I object. I have been known to call down the moon (to little, if any, effect.) And to occasionally dance sky-clad. Very occasionally. And only under the influence of a charismatic leader. Nevertheless, if you attempt to burn me, I will cause your head to burst into flames. Without breaking a sweat.
Yep.
That'll make yer bung hole clench.
Quote from: LOsborne on October 19, 2010, 07:55:33 PM
I object. I have been known to call down the moon (to little, if any, effect.) And to occasionally dance sky-clad. Very occasionally. And only under the influence of a charismatic leader. Nevertheless, if you attempt to burn me, I will cause your head to burst into flames. Without breaking a sweat.
There are good witches and bad witches? Burn the bad ones then!
Quote from: Locutus on October 19, 2010, 07:55:00 PM
Can't burn Palin. She's got ole' Jeebus out there to protect her from such.
Let's pray for Saaaraaa.
http://www.youtube.com/v/D050F7T6Avc
:biggrin:
Let's see. . . blasphemer too!? Burn her ass! Her name is Sarah? Coincidence? I don't think so!!!!!!
(http://hitchcockandme.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/churchlady.jpg)
Quote from: Palehorse on October 19, 2010, 07:59:57 PM
There are good witches and bad witches? Burn the bad ones then!
No, there are good witches, and better witches.
I've dated a few.
Yep.
Some were better than others.
All were Baaaaaad.
Thankfully.
Quote from: followsthewolf on October 19, 2010, 09:49:32 PM
I've dated a few.
Yep.
Some were better than others.
All were Baaaaaad.
Thankfully.
:thumbsup: I'll drink to that. :shots: :biggrin: :yes: Love those's baaaaaaaaaaaaad girls.
Here's Palin's new vanity plate:
(http://shannynmoore.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/iquit.jpg)
(CNN) - Sarah Palin is making clear she's no fan of Politico – the news organization that published a story Sunday night quoting anonymous Republican sources saying GOP leaders will try to forestall a Palin White House bid.
"Politico, Mike Allen and Jim VandeHei, they're jokes," Palin told Fox News on Sunday night, referring to the writers of the story. "This is a joke to have unnamed sources tearing somebody apart limb by limb."
"If they would man up and if they would, you know, make these claims against me then I can debate them, I can talk about it, but to me they're making stuff up again," the former Alaska governor continued.
The comments came shortly after the website published a story by Allen and VandeHei that claimed establishment Republicans are deeply fretting the possibility of a Palin presidential campaign and will work behind the scenes to ensure it does not occur.
"I don't think the paper that we just printed this article on, you know, it's not worth even wrapping my King Salmon in," Palin also said of Politco. "I'll just ignore this crap."
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
I think Sarah's ride is going to get a little rougher. The good old boys of the the Republican Party are scared to death of her.
The boy's club as Sarah calls them are afraid she will run for president and win the nomination. Which they think would make Obama second term a sure thing.
Please run her, please make her a candidate of president. Can't you just see it. SARAH PALIN, President of the United States.
all I can say is...she backed 43 candidates for the House.....thirty of them won.
she endorsed 12 senate candidates.....seven won.
Obama went to Ohio....LOST BIG time....he went to Pennsylvania...LOST BIG time....went to Wisconsin...LOST BIG time...went to Illinois...LOST BIG time (even his old seat)....
just sayin...
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 03, 2010, 10:25:47 AM
all I can say is...she backed 43 candidates for the House.....thirty of them won.
she endorsed 12 senate candidates.....seven won.
Obama went to Ohio....LOST BIG time....he went to Pennsylvania...LOST BIG time....went to Wisconsin...LOST BIG time...went to Illinois...LOST BIG time (even his old seat)....
just sayin...
Just saying that it is a historical fact that after a president is elected two years later the other party takes seats back. After two sweep by the Democrats, it was long over due. Crap happens.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 03, 2010, 10:39:36 AM
boy did it.... :rotfl:
And it appears the endorsement of Queen Sarah is nothing more than a panacea for the frenzied republican party. . .
Quote from: Palehorse on November 03, 2010, 11:14:03 AM
And it appears the endorsement of Queen Sarah is nothing more than a panacea for the frenzied republican party. . .
where does that leave Obama? He did nothing but devastate a frazzled democratic party....
I know you guys have this "hatred" towards Sarah Palin, and I'm not sure why exactly, other than you must fear her. I am not endorsing her for my next POTUS, but I think she is a charasmatic, conservative, who is being demonized at all costs by those on the left. I think she is a bright young lady.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 03, 2010, 11:50:08 AM
where does that leave Obama? He did nothing but devastate a frazzled democratic party....
I know you guys have this "hatred" towards Sarah Palin, and I'm not sure why exactly, other than you must fear her. I am not endorsing her for my next POTUS, but I think she is a charasmatic, conservative, who is being demonized at all costs by those on the left. I think she is a bright young lady.
:spooked:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 03, 2010, 11:50:08 AM
I think she is a bright young lady.
http://www.brandens.net/files/snds/CLIPS/NICEGIRL.WAV (http://www.brandens.net/files/snds/CLIPS/NICEGIRL.WAV)
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 03, 2010, 11:50:08 AM
where does that leave Obama? He did nothing but devastate a frazzled democratic party....
I know you guys have this "hatred" towards Sarah Palin, and I'm not sure why exactly, other than you must fear her. I am not endorsing her for my next POTUS, but I think she is a charasmatic, conservative, who is being demonized at all costs by those on the left. I think she is a bright young lady.
I do not hate Sarah Palin. I just think she is not bright enough to be president of USA. But for anyone to make her anything more than a beauty queen is total out of their mind.
Quote from: The Troll on November 03, 2010, 01:26:16 PM
I do not hate Sarah Palin. I just think she is not bright enough to be president of USA. But for anyone to make her anything more than a beauty queen is total out of their mind.
compared to what we have, I would take her in a heartbeat!!!....she is not my choice. But I truly believe she has more integrity and fortitude than the current POTUS.
She has accomplished quite a bit in her life, and she IS very intelligent. Presidential? we will see.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 03, 2010, 01:42:49 PM
compared to what we have, I would take her in a heartbeat!!!....she is not my choice. But I truly believe she has more integrity and fortitude than the current POTUS.
She has accomplished quite a bit in her life, and she IS very intelligent. Presidential? we will see.
Oh come on Henry, you got to be kidding. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: We need her to come to Indianapolis and be your boss. WOW!
Quote from: The Troll on November 03, 2010, 01:51:17 PM
Oh come on Henry, you got to be kidding. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: We need her to come to Indianapolis and be your boss. WOW!
Personally, I don't want that witch anywhere near the state of Indiana. I think she should go back to Alaska where the population density is about her IQ. . .
Quote from: Palehorse on November 03, 2010, 02:59:37 PM
Personally, I don't want that witch anywhere near the state of Indiana. I think she should go back to Alaska where the population density is about her IQ. . .
what are you in 3rd grade? :razz: ...WHY, are you so freaked out by her?...seriously :spooked: :confused:
Please tell me what exactly you do not like about her....I understand why you may not want her as POTUS, but she is nothing more than a poitical speaker.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 03, 2010, 03:02:57 PM
what are you in 3rd grade? :razz: ...WHY, are you so freaked out by her?...seriously :spooked: :confused:
Please tell me what exactly you do not like about her....I understand why you may not want her as POTUS, but she is nothing more than a poitical speaker.
She is a quitter for one thing. Secondly she invokes emotional responses that are inappropriate for the situations, using terms like "lock and load" etc. in the presence of an already emotionally frenzied group of individuals is like pouring gasoline onto a fire! In some jurisdictions she could potentially be charged with inciting a riot for crying out loud!
That woman is nothing more than social unrest and civil disobedience waiting to happen. . .
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 03, 2010, 03:02:57 PM
what are you in 3rd grade? :razz: ...WHY, are you so freaked out by her?...seriously :spooked: :confused:
Please tell me what exactly you do not like about her....I understand why you may not want her as POTUS, but she is nothing more than a poitical speaker.
Let's put in crude rude Troll words. She a dumbass broad who thinks she's smart. Who I would like to buy for what's she worth and sell for what she thinks she worth. It's too bad she is not blond. Then we could call her a dumbass blond. :yes:
Quote from: Palehorse on November 03, 2010, 03:35:07 PM
She is a quitter for one thing. Secondly she invokes emotional responses that are inappropriate for the situations, using terms like "lock and load" etc. in the presence of an already emotionally frenzied group of individuals is like pouring gasoline onto a fire! In some jurisdictions she could potentially be charged with inciting a riot for crying out loud!
That woman is nothing more than social unrest and civil disobedience waiting to happen. . .
Well, I do respect your opinion, but I digress that she is any different than several other politicians...she is an emotional speaker, but she is no threat nor are her fans. I think you are buying into some political hype about her. I have listen to her speak, and she is very sharp. I don't really like the tone of her voice, it kind of gets on my nervers, especially after the Tina Fey thing and I am not ready to boast her as my next POTUS....but I think there are many worse candidates out there on both parties.
I hate her because she's an idiot and unfortunately representing my gender. If she were an intelligent conservative woman, I may not agree w/her political stance, but I wouldn't hate her, because she would be a positive representative of my gender in a historically male dominated field.
She is what she is, and the reality is that what she says and what she does within the public eye is exactly what is driving those public perceptions of her. Nothing less, nothing more.
I've yet to be able to listen to anything she has said and keep from retching. What that woman needs is a good dose of reality pimp slapping her in the face. Something like losing her income and having to rely on unemployment, or having her front teeth fall out and be unable to afford replacements.
She runs for POTUS and gets slapped down again, it will only feed her false perception of herself and her worth to the country. She is too stupid to realize what a political pawn she has become. . . Quitting her job was the biggest mistake of her life. . .
Sarah Palin broke a record for having 5 million viewers on her new reality show....
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2010/11/sarah-palins-alaska-breaks-tlc-record-with-5-million-viewers-for-premiere.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2010/11/sarah-palins-alaska-breaks-tlc-record-with-5-million-viewers-for-premiere.html)
I'm not insinuating anything, just reportin some news... :yes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 16, 2010, 10:29:17 AM
Sarah Palin broke a record for having 5 million viewers on her new reality show....
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2010/11/sarah-palins-alaska-breaks-tlc-record-with-5-million-viewers-for-premiere.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2010/11/sarah-palins-alaska-breaks-tlc-record-with-5-million-viewers-for-premiere.html)
I'm not insinuating anything, just reportin some news... :yes:
Henry, we all know she a dumbass, I hope you will be able to vote for her Presidency.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 16, 2010, 10:29:17 AM
Sarah Palin broke a record for having 5 million viewers on her new reality show....
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2010/11/sarah-palins-alaska-breaks-tlc-record-with-5-million-viewers-for-premiere.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2010/11/sarah-palins-alaska-breaks-tlc-record-with-5-million-viewers-for-premiere.html)
I'm not insinuating anything, just reportin some news... :yes:
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
She tied with "The Walking Dead" but was beat by over a million by SpongeBob SquarePants.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/16/AR2010111607518.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/16/AR2010111607518.html)
Quote from: Olias on November 17, 2010, 10:44:53 AM
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
She tied with "The Walking Dead" but was beat by over a million by SpongeBob SquarePants.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/16/AR2010111607518.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/16/AR2010111607518.html)
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
she had more viewers than MSNBC did!!!... :biggrin:
and how about her daughter going to the finals on Dancing with the Stars?!! :biggrin: She has every tea party voter, voting for her...she may win that show...and I think it is funnier than hell... :biggrin:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 17, 2010, 11:16:42 AM
she had more viewers than MSNBC did!!!... :biggrin:
and how about her daughter going to the finals on Dancing with the Stars?!! :biggrin: She has every tea party voter, voting for her...she may win that show...and I think it is funnier than hell... :biggrin:
Bristol is an attention whore just like mommy! :biggrin:
Quote from: Palehorse on November 17, 2010, 11:19:00 AM
Bristol is an attention whore just like mommy! :biggrin:
she is a good kid....I really like her, more than her mommy. She got an opportunity and she has made the most out of it.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 17, 2010, 11:16:42 AM
she had more viewers than MSNBC did!!!... :biggrin:
and how about her daughter going to the finals on Dancing with the Stars?!! :biggrin: She has every tea party voter, voting for her...she may win that show...and I think it is funnier than hell... :biggrin:
If she wins, she will be like her mother. If she wins it won't be because of skill. :rotfl: :rotfl: :bliss: :bliss:
Quote from: The Troll on November 17, 2010, 12:14:40 PM
If she wins, she will be like her mother. If she wins it won't be because of skill. :rotfl: :rotfl: :bliss: :bliss:
If she wins, it will mostly because she is an "average" girl, with "average" experiences, who Many Americans can Identify with....she was working for a Doctor in alaska, a few months ago. She drove to hollywood, in her pick up truck, it took her five days to get here. She has worked very hard each week, and has dramaticly improved every week. She has been very humble and sweet throught this show.
She is NOT the most talented, but she has captured the hearts of millions of Americans, by her hardwork.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 17, 2010, 12:45:10 PM
If she wins, it will mostly because she is an "average" girl, with "average" experiences, who Many Americans can Identify with....she was working for a Doctor in alaska, a few months ago. She drove to hollywood, in her pick up truck, it took her five days to get here. She has worked very hard each week, and has dramaticly improved every week. She has been very humble and sweet throught this show.
She is NOT the most talented, but she has captured the hearts of millions of Americans, by her hardwork.
The whole idea of the show is being able to dance with excellence. It's not a charity show for the handicapped.
Quote from: The Troll on November 17, 2010, 07:25:01 PM
The whole idea of the show is being able to dance with excellence. It's not a charity show for the handicapped.
and it also happens to be voted on by American viewers who vote for the person they most admire......it happens that several of them, admire a kid, who was working for 7 bucks an hour, raising a baby, and has worked her butt off to become a pretty darn good dancer.....she has improved more than anyone, even though she may not be as polished as the kid who has danced all of her life, she is impressing the hell out of America.....and THAT is why she is still there....
I've watched her dance on that show a couple of times and I think she does well in her own right. However, it's not a far stretch of the imagination to think that some of her "star power" (and the votes that go along with it) on that show is directly attributable to her mother.
To her credit though, it's difficult to dance under that pressure regardless, and I admire her for making it as far as she has.
It,s also not a stretch of the imagination to believe that she's still there for the controversey and ratings. Have you ever noticed how long those people last on reality programs? I can't say that I watch any reality program, including this one, but I always here about those characters who are still there causing drama or to everyone's amazement.
Oh and Henry, she hardly represents the struggling single mother and she opted to have the baby and keep it why would anyone admire her simply because she's doing what any mother should do? That doesn't make her special or a good dancer.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on November 18, 2010, 06:08:14 AM
It,s also not a stretch of the imagination to believe that she's still there for the controversey and ratings. Have you ever noticed how long those people last on reality programs? I can't say that I watch any reality program, including this one, but I always here about those characters who are still there causing drama or to everyone's amazement.
Oh and Henry, she hardly represents the struggling single mother and she opted to have the baby and keep it why would anyone admire her simplu because she's doing what any mother should do? That doesn't make her special or a good dancer.
The American people who are voting for her are the "reality TV" set and IMO the fact that they find reality TV entertaining or the least bit resembling "reality" tells me that the producers of these programs are successfully contributing to the dumbing down of America.
And from my perspective, America doesn't seem to need any more help in dumbing down! Yikes!
Sarah The Quitter" Palin is now yapping about running for POTUS. . . I wish she'd just shut her pie hole! :rolleyes:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on November 18, 2010, 06:08:14 AM
Oh and Henry, she hardly represents the struggling single mother and she opted to have the baby and keep it why would anyone admire her simply because she's doing what any mother should do? That doesn't make her special or a good dancer.
seriously?
Quote from: Palehorse on November 18, 2010, 06:11:07 AM
And from my perspective, America doesn't seem to need any more help in dumbing down! Yikes!
Sarah The Quitter" Palin is now yapping about running for POTUS. . . I wish she'd just shut her pie hole! :rolleyes:
Why does she really bother you? like she is the only loud mouth to ever run for POTUS?.....If shes is such a bad person, then whe will not get nomintated.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on November 18, 2010, 06:08:14 AM
That doesn't make her special or a good dancer.
And that's the problem with all of these "talent"shows where the public is allowed to vote. American Idol immediately comes to mind. How many times has the BEST SINGER actually won? Forget about how they look or stage presence. Who is the MOST TALENTED here?
:rant: :rant: :rant:
Quote from: Olias on November 18, 2010, 08:59:02 AM
And that's the problem with all of these "talent"shows where the public is allowed to vote. American Idol immediately comes to mind. How many times has the BEST SINGER actually won? Forget about how they look or stage presence. Who is the MOST TALENTED here?
:rant: :rant: :rant:
Now, I agree with you on this.....BUT, that is how the rules are, so EVERYBODY knows exactly what they are getting into, when they sign up....or the people who watch the shows, KNOW this is what could happen.
Quote from: Olias on November 18, 2010, 08:59:02 AM
And that's the problem with all of these "talent"shows where the public is allowed to vote. American Idol immediately comes to mind. How many times has the BEST SINGER actually won? Forget about how they look or stage presence. Who is the MOST TALENTED here?
:rant: :rant: :rant:
In my opinion, about the only good thing to come out of American Idol is Carrie Underwood.
Quote from: Locutus on November 18, 2010, 09:48:52 AM
In my opinion, about the only good thing to come out of American Idol is Carrie Underwood.
I think Chris Daughtry has also been excellent.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 18, 2010, 08:11:58 AM
seriously?
Seriously, the 2009 Census says ther are 13.7 million single parents in the US. They are raising 21.8 million children. 84% of those are mothers. 79.5% of those are gainfully employed. I'd be willing to bet that most of them do not have a media whore mother and baby-daddy supplementing their incomes nor is anyone enterested in putting them on TV to dance only b/c of the attention those two demand. .She's not special for supporting a child she chose to have and keep. She's doing what she should
do and what millions of other single mothers and single fathers are doing.
How does any of that make her a good dancer?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 18, 2010, 08:13:46 AM
Why does she really bother you? like she is the only loud mouth to ever run for POTUS?.....If shes is such a bad person, then whe will not get nomintated.
She's an attention whore that poses a very serious threat to this country, its traditions, and the office of POTUS; due to the aforementioned dumbing down and laziness of America and its citizens. That
anyone as shallow and vain as she obviously is, could garner enough support to even get onto the ballot as VP is one of the most disturbing developments in the history of this nation! (To me)
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on November 18, 2010, 10:56:52 AM
Seriously, the 2009 Census says ther are 13.7 million single parents in the US. They are raising 21.8 million children. 84% of those are mothers. 79.5% of those are gainfully employed. I'd be willing to bet that most of them do not have a media whore mother and baby-daddy supplementing their incomes nor is anyone enterested in putting them on TV to dance. .She's not special for supporting a child she chose to have and keep. She's doing what she should
do and what millions of other single mothers and single fathers are doing.
How does any of that make her a good dancer?
I think you are not following my point, and yet maybe so. But I will attempt it again.
I think Bristol, represents a lot of young ladies today. I think the fact she has devoted her time, to speak to other girls about abstinence, and they have a choice, NOT to have sex. That there is a price to pay for your decisions. The fact that she was working in a doctors office before she got the offer to do the DWTS show. Yes, the only reason she was even asked was because of her noteriety of her mother. But, she took the challange, and has been criticized by the liberal media, just as her mother has been, and has worked hard each week on the show. She had NO experience in dancing, but has improved noticebly each week. Even the judges has praised her, and she nearly recieved a perfect score on her last show. Take that coupled with her newly found "stardom"....she has developed a tremendous fan base.
I think many are fans of her mom, but I think she has also captured the hearts of many average americans, who can relate to her.
My wife is NOT into politics at all, but has been a fan of hers because she IS not like Jennifer Grey and Brandi, who are experienced dancers and entertainers....she is just an average young lady, working hard.
Quote from: Palehorse on November 18, 2010, 10:57:51 AM
She's an attention whore that poses a very serious threat to this country, its traditions, and the office of POTUS; due to the aforementioned dumbing down and laziness of America and its citizens. That anyone as shallow and vain as she obviously is, could garner enough support to even get onto the ballot as VP is one of the most disturbing developments in the history of this nation! (To me)
and I could not disagree with you more....
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 18, 2010, 11:06:52 AM
and I could not disagree with you more....
Well, here's a piece by the late great Frank Zappa, that I have adapted and tweaked a bit to perfectly reflect my perspective on her! (Apologies Frank, but somehow I am thinking you are laughing your ass off about it!) :biggrin:
Sarah:
Hey Hey Hey all you girls in these
political towns
I know you're prob'ly gettin' tired
Of all the local clowns
They never give you no respect
They never treat you nice
So perhaps you oughta try
A little political advice
And
be a CREW SLUT
Hey, you'll love it
Be a CREW SLUT
It's a way of life
Be a CREW SLUT
See the world!
Don't make a fuss, just get on the bus
CREW SLUT
Add water makes its own sauce
Be a CREW SLUT
So you don't forget, call before midnite tonite !
The boys in the crew
Are just waiting for you
You never get to move around
,You never go nowhere
I know yer prob'ly gettin' tired
Of all the guys out there
You always wondered what it's like
To go from place to place
So, darlin', take a little ride
with a political race
Be a CREW SLUT
Just follow the magic footprints
Be a CREW SLUT
Hey, you'll love it!
Be a CREW SLUT
It's a way of life!
I ain't gonna squash it
And you don't need to wash it!
CREW SLUT
Hey, I'll buy you a pizza
CREW SLUT
Of course I'll introduce you to Warren!
The boys in the crew
Are only waiting for you
(At this point, the political crew, as all political crews must do from time to time, borrow some of the big group's platforms, and have a fear mongering session, indicating to the bleating sheeple that they are endowed with a great deal of raw talent, as well as massive anger. Obviously impressed with Sarah's ability to scream so hard into the camera, those screeching little noises coming out of her, the sheeple kneel again and reach upward in gestures of supplication, listening intently as Sarah continues to screech...)
Well I've been to Alabama, girl,
'N' Georgia too
'N' all the boys in the crew
Is bein' good to me.
I know yer sayin' to yourself
'
This is the way to go'
'Cause when you need a little extra
They will give you some mo'
`Cause you're the
CREW SLUT
Sarah:
Eh, hah ha, I'm into blaming. . .
(That's good! A lot of the boys in the crew Love blaming...)
Sarah:
And lying...
(Yeah, they like lying too...and half truths, and fear mongering. . .)
Political Crew Chorus:
Trade your spot in the frontier
For a tight dress and a beer. . .
Sarah:
Ha ha ha... you betcha!
(You like that, huh?
I told you you'd love it...
It's a way of life!)
Political Crew Chorus:
The guys in the crew
Have got a present for you!
Run nah naaah
Run nah naaah
Run nah naaah
Sarah: A present for me?
Political Crew Chorus:
Run nah naaah
Run nah naaah
Run nah naaah
Hmmm, we got a present for you!
Political Crew Chorus:
Run nah naaah
Run nah naaah
Run nah naaah
Sarah:
Whaddya got?
Road Crew Chorus:
Run nah naaah
Sarah:
Whaddya gonna give me?
Road Crew Chorus:
Run nah naaah
Run nah naaah
It looks just like a Telefunken U-47
You'll love it...
Sarah:
With moose hide?
http://www.telefunken-elektroakustik.com/products/show_product.php?item=20&cat=mics (http://www.telefunken-elektroakustik.com/products/show_product.php?item=20&cat=mics)
Central Scrutinizer:
Eh errr, eh eh...This is,eh, the CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER again...
And so Sarah was enticed away from Alaska
By an evil barbarian with a beer in his pocket
Lured into a life of SLEAZERY
With the entire road crew of some
wildcat political Group
(I don't know whether it was really Tea or not
...I don't know... I'll check it out)
Again we see
political sleaze, vanity, and cultural laziness
Causing
BIG TROUBLE!
that is just WRONG.... :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 18, 2010, 11:06:06 AM
I think you are not following my point, and yet maybe so. But I will attempt it again.
I think Bristol, represents a lot of young ladies today. I think the fact she has devoted her time, to speak to other girls about abstinence, and they have a choice, NOT to have sex. That there is a price to pay for your decisions. The fact that she was working in a doctors office before she got the offer to do the DWTS show. Yes, the only reason she was even asked was because of her noteriety of her mother. But, she took the challange, and has been criticized by the liberal media, just as her mother has been, and has worked hard each week on the show. She had NO experience in dancing, but has improved noticebly each week. Even the judges has praised her, and she nearly recieved a perfect score on her last show. Take that coupled with her newly found "stardom"....she has developed a tremendous fan base.
I think many are fans of her mom, but I think she has also captured the hearts of many average americans, who can relate to her.
My wife is NOT into politics at all, but has been a fan of hers because she IS not like Jennifer Grey and Brandi, who are experienced dancers and entertainers....she is just an average young lady, working hard.
You're right, I wasn't following you that way. So thanks for explaining further. Although I think w/ other reality programs such as 16 and pregnant kids are aware of one conseqence of unprotected sex. The threat of pregnancy is not a deterrent. Abstinence only education has been proven. Not to be very effective because kids often lack willpower in the heat of the moment and let's face it, a grin can bring on the heat at that age. :biggrin: I think it's smarter to teach them how to prtoect themselves, not only from unplanned pregnancy, but worse fates.
I need to clear something up too. I didn't mean moms aren't special. They are especially to their chidren. I take good care of my children but as far as the rest of the world is concerned, I'm no more special than any other parent. Although I could bust a few moves on DWTS ;D.
The fact that she chose to keep her baby and seems devoted to providing a good home (if silly name ;D) and a happy life should be applauded. Sara Palin isn't bright, but she seems to be devoted to and supportive of her children as well
Heck, truth be known, Bristol thinks she's an embarrassment too. :biggrin: Who hasn't been embarredded by their parents?.
Please pardon my grammar, spelling and sentence stucture issues. I'm adjusting to a new phone and it's freezing on me today and it's a p.i.a to go back in and edit. Bear w/me.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on November 18, 2010, 02:06:04 PM
Please pardon my grammar, spelling and sentence stucture issues. I'm adjusting to a new phone and it's freezing on me today and it's a p.i.a to go back in and edit. Bear w/me.
did that embaredd you a little? ;D :razz:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 18, 2010, 02:13:33 PM
did that embaredd you a little? ;D :razz:
:biggrin: Yes!
Actually it really bothers me. I type quickly while I think and then I go back and fix things. The phone kept freezing and I was getting frustrated. That's why I stopped posting earlier. It must have been the signal where I was because it's working fine now.
At any rate, I know that you guys love me enough to forgive me. :smitten: right? :spooked:
:biggrin:
:smitten: of course... :yes:
Well the queen's latest book is already getting her into hot water and it hasn't even gone on sale yet!
The word out there is that within that book she is critical of "reality tv" and specifically, American Idol, while at the same time praising her own daughter's entry into the genre! (And launching her own reality genre program herself). She also trashes the First Lady, among others. . .
Here we go. . . . AGAIN! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Oh no she didn't!! :mad:
Michelle Obama has more class and intellect in one hair on her head than Palin is capable of. :mad:
It's no secret that I think Bush is an idiot, but I have tremendous respect for his wife.
Looks like Plain hates anyone who's different. That would be anyone with a brain. :yes:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on November 19, 2010, 02:42:26 PM
Oh no she didn't!! :mad:
Michelle Obama has more class and intellect in one hair on her head than Palin is capable of. :mad:
It's no secret that I think Bush is an idiot, but I have tremendous respect for his wife.
Looks like Plain hates anyone who's different. That would be anyone with a brain. :yes:
That's the buzz out there. I have not read it nor am I likely too! :rolleyes:
http://www.comcast.net/video/palin-slams-american-idol-and-first-lady/1652811593/Comcast/popular/ (http://www.comcast.net/video/palin-slams-american-idol-and-first-lady/1652811593/Comcast/popular/)
I feel as if I have to defend her...here is what she said...after Michelle made the comment..during a campaign speech for her husband....
for the first time in my adult lifetime, I
am really
proud of my country....
Palin made the following comments in her book:
Certainly his wife expressed this view when she said during the 2008 campaign that she had never felt proud of her country until her husband started winning elections. In retrospect, I guess this shouldn't surprise us, since both of them spent almost two decades in the pews of the Reverend Jeremiah Wright's church listening to his rants against America and white people. I think the left is just WAITING on a chance to jump her about anything...I say if you don't like her, don't read her book....This is not half as bad as things that has been said about her....remember Palin is nothing more than a commentator at this point in time....and that is what she is doing.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 19, 2010, 03:08:21 PM
I feel as if I have to defend her...here is what she said...after Michelle made the comment..during a campaign speech for her husband....
for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country....
Palin made the following comments in her book:
Certainly his wife expressed this view when she said during the 2008 campaign that she had never felt proud of her country until her husband started winning elections. In retrospect, I guess this shouldn't surprise us, since both of them spent almost two decades in the pews of the Reverend Jeremiah Wright's church listening to his rants against America and white people.
I think the left is just WAITING on a chance to jump her about anything...I say if you don't like her, don't read her book....This is not half as bad as things that has been said about her....remember Palin is nothing more than a commentator at this point in time....and that is what she is doing.
It's no surprise that you have to defend her. :rolleyes: At least the things being said about Palin are true, how many more times must the Obamas defend themselves against her baseless and repetiative attacks? She's found her demographic and that's the segment of the population which isn't any smarter than she is. They'll buy her book and believe every contortion and flat out lie in it.
QuoteAs I have written about in my books, I first joined Trinity United Church of Christ nearly twenty years ago. I knew Rev. Wright as someone who served this nation with honor as a United States Marine, as a respected biblical scholar, and as someone who taught or lectured at seminaries across the country, from Union Theological Seminary to the University of Chicago. He also led a diverse congregation that was and still is a pillar of the South Side and the entire city of Chicago. It's a congregation that does not merely preach social justice but acts it out each day, through ministries ranging from housing the homeless to reaching out to those with HIV/AIDS.
Most importantly, Rev. Wright preached the gospel of Jesus, a gospel on which I base my life. In other words, he has never been my political advisor; he's been my pastor. And the sermons I heard him preach always related to our obligation to love God and one another, to work on behalf of the poor, and to seek justice at every turn.
The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity or heard him utter in private conversation. When these statements first came to my attention, it was at the beginning of my presidential campaign. I made it clear at the time that I strongly condemned his comments. But because Rev. Wright was on the verge of retirement, and because of my strong links to the Trinity faith community, where I married my wife and where my daughters were baptized, I did not think it appropriate to leave the church.
Let me repeat what I've said earlier. All of the statements that have been the subject of controversy are ones that I vehemently condemn. They in no way reflect my attitudes and directly contradict my profound love for this country.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barack-obama/on-my-faith-and-my-church_b_91623.html
Henry, you missed your calling.
You should write copy for Fox.
Spin meister.
Well good grief FTW, he doesn't realize he's spinning. Fox told him that's what she said.
Quote from: followsthewolf on November 19, 2010, 03:35:31 PM
Henry, you missed your calling.
You should write copy for Fox.
Spin meister.
THANKS ftw,....I am quite proud of that one....Sandy, this is my own.....I don't need foxnews to tell me what to say....
I think Michelle has a touch of spinmeiterness also....and I'm not sold that she is telling the truth either....I find it hard to believe that she never heard him preach anythign controversia......Wrights church's mission statement is based upon systematized Black liberation theology............and I'm not saying that is a bad thing, but it has ALWAYS been controversial....so, I'm not buying Michelle's story.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 19, 2010, 04:03:24 PM
THANKS ftw,....I am quite proud of that one....Sandy, this is my own.....I don't need foxnews to tell me what to say....
I think Michelle has a touch of spinmeiterness also....and I'm not sold that she is telling the truth either....I find it hard to believe that she never heard him preach anythign controversia......Wrights church's mission statement is based upon systematized Black liberation theology............and I'm not saying that is a bad thing, but it has ALWAYS been controversial....so, I'm not buying Michelle's story.
Oh so you're spreading the out of context quote.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 19, 2010, 04:03:24 PM
THANKS ftw,....I am quite proud of that one....Sandy, this is my own.....I don't need foxnews to tell me what to say....
I think Michelle has a touch of spinmeiterness also....and I'm not sold that she is telling the truth either....I find it hard to believe that she never heard him preach anythign controversia......Wrights church's mission statement is based upon systematized Black liberation theology............and I'm not saying that is a bad thing, but it has ALWAYS been controversial....so, I'm not buying Michelle's story.
You could be right, it might not be as she said, but who can prove it? You'd think in all of this time someone would have come out w/the truth ... if it were different. I'm not talking about wild right wing speculation, I'm talking about truth. As for Palin, she's enjoys showcasing her stupidity so she leaves little room for speculation on just how vile and dumb she really is. :yes:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on November 19, 2010, 04:12:04 PM
You could be right, it might not be as she said, but who can prove it? You'd think in all of this time someone would have come out w/the truth ... if it were different. I'm not talking about wild right wing speculation, I'm talking about truth. As for Palin, she's enjoys showcasing her stupidity so she leaves little room for speculation on just how vile and dumb she really is. :yes:
the point Palin was making....this country was great and something to be proud of before Obama wanted to be President...
the more I hear you guys whine about Palin, the more I like her.... :razz:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 19, 2010, 04:40:46 PM
the point Palin was making....this country was great and something to be proud of before Obama wanted to be President...
the more I hear you guys whine about Palin, the more I like her.... :razz:
Can Bristol Plain dance? I must be half blind, because I can't see it. But I have seen a Holstein cow jump over a creek with more grace. :bliss: :bliss: :bliss:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 19, 2010, 04:40:46 PM
the point Palin was making....this country was great and something to be proud of before Obama wanted to be President...
the more I hear you guys whine about Palin, the more I like her.... :razz:
Oh I know the point she was trying to make, but it kinda irks me how the right wing types like to bastardize the intent of Mrs. Obama's comment.
Don't blame us for your lil' crush on Palin. :razz: Birds of a feather and all that.... :biggrin:
I saw that this morning and laughed my ass off at their comments.
No one who spends any time with her takes her seriously.
She makes bush look like a member of Mensa.
Gee whiz can you imagine that????? Fox has actually hired some people who are on the left...truly amazing....Could it be you've been being lied to and Fox really is fair and balanced?????? Damn what a shock........I'm surprised they even had the nerve to put that on the air since it makes liars out of the "Fox isn't fair and balanced" BS.
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Hay diddle diddle the cat and the fiddle, the "COW" jumped over the moon. Oh, by the way Palin is still dancing.
:pink: :pink: :pink: :bliss: :bliss: :pink: :pink: :pink:
:biggrin: :biggrin:
"I sat next to her once, thought she was beautiful and I think she's very happy in Alaska — and I hope she'll stay there."
----- Barbara Bush
:rotfl:
^^
The irony of that is that so many of us wish that ugly bitch (and the accompanying progeny of her polluted womb) would have stayed in Texas. :yes:
a typical, nasty, liberal response...tsk, tsk, tsk... :no:
Just a little holiday truth for you. :wink: ;D
Quote from: Locutus on November 22, 2010, 12:42:03 PM
Just a little holiday truth for you. :wink: ;D
Hey, even though she DOES look a little like the Quaker Oats dude...I am a fan of hers.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!.. :yes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 22, 2010, 12:44:54 PM
Hey, even though she DOES look a little like the Quaker Oats dude...I am a fan of hers.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!.. :yes:
I always thought it was really her picture on the $1 bill. :rotfl:
:food24: :rotfl: :pil: :carve: :snow:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 22, 2010, 12:44:54 PM
Hey, even though she DOES look a little like the Quaker Oats dude...I am a fan of hers.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!.. :yes:
Me too. I like how she handles herself and basically snubs her nose at those who place such high importance on things such as fashion, etc.
It's not her fault that the nanny kept dropping her sons on their heads. ;D
. . .Speaking to Fox New's Sean Hannity in an interview to air Monday, Palin said she wants nothing to do with Katie Couric, the CBS Evening News anchor who's line of questioning facilitated one of the most memorable political foibles of the 2008 presidential campaign.
"As for doing an interview, though, with a reporter who already has such a bias against whatever it is that I would come out and say? Why waste my time? No," Palin told Hannity of Couric, according to excerpts obtained by Time's Mark Halperin.
"I want to help clean up the state that is so sorry today of journalism. And I have a communications degree. I studied journalism, who, what, where, when, and why of reporting," Palin continued. "I will speak to reporters who still understand that cornerstone of our democracy, that expectation that the public has for truth to be reported. And then we get to decide our own opinion based on the facts reported to us."
In a series of interviews with Couric authorized by the McCain campaign, Palin stumbled over a number of questions, most memorably when asked, "When it comes to establishing your world view...what newspapers and magazines did you regularly read?"
Palin appeared unable to name a single publication – a performance for which she was much maligned - and later said she found the question insulting, as well as emblematic of a liberal slant in the mainstream media.
"So a journalist, a reporter who is so biased and will, no doubt, spin and gin up whatever it is that I have to say to create controversy, I swear to you, I will not my waste my time with her. Or him," she told Hannity in the interview Monday.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/11/22/palin-wont-waste-time-on-couric/#more-136711 (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/11/22/palin-wont-waste-time-on-couric/#more-136711)
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What would Sarah Palin do about this present North Korean action. Scary isn't it. She such a :genius: genius in foreign affairs.
Quote from: The Troll on November 23, 2010, 03:44:28 PM
What would Sarah Palin do about this present North Korean action. Scary isn't it. She such a :genius: genius in foreign affairs.
It really doesn't mean a hill of beans what Sarah will do...SHE is not the POTUS...what does worry me is what Obama will do...HE is the "genius in foreign affairs" right now...
and what is even more disturbing is Bristol is receiving death threats by the lunatic left wing wacho's.....
http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2010/11/23/2010-11-23_bristol_palin_receives_death_threats_before_dancing_with_the_stars_finale_abc_in.html (http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2010/11/23/2010-11-23_bristol_palin_receives_death_threats_before_dancing_with_the_stars_finale_abc_in.html)
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 23, 2010, 04:29:54 PM
and what is even more disturbing is Bristol is receiving death threats by the lunatic left wing wacho's.....
http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2010/11/23/2010-11-23_bristol_palin_receives_death_threats_before_dancing_with_the_stars_finale_abc_in.html (http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2010/11/23/2010-11-23_bristol_palin_receives_death_threats_before_dancing_with_the_stars_finale_abc_in.html)
With all of this attention, sound like she a sure winner. Because she can dance so well. And the "COW" jumped over the moon. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 23, 2010, 04:29:54 PM
and what is even more disturbing is Bristol is receiving death threats by the lunatic left wing wacho's.....
http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2010/11/23/2010-11-23_bristol_palin_receives_death_threats_before_dancing_with_the_stars_finale_abc_in.html (http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2010/11/23/2010-11-23_bristol_palin_receives_death_threats_before_dancing_with_the_stars_finale_abc_in.html)
Henry, you assume much. The article doesn't indicate where the threats are coming from. For all you know they could be coming from your garden variety wackos who see reality-type programming as an extension f their own lives and take it very personally. Then again, perhaps she didn't create the drama the producers expected and this "leak" ahs been created to generate interest. Either way, you still don't know that anyone on the left is responsible.
Quote from: The Troll on November 23, 2010, 03:44:28 PM
What would Sarah Palin do about this present North Korean action. Scary isn't it. She such a :genius: genius in foreign affairs.
j She can't spell Korea. :biggrin:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on November 23, 2010, 06:21:35 PM
Henry, you assume much. The article doesn't indicate where the threats are coming from. For all you know they could be coming from your garden variety wackos who see reality-type programming as an extension f their own lives and take it very personally. Then again, perhaps she didn't create the drama the producers expected and this "leak" ahs been created to generate interest. Either way, you still don't know that anyone on the left is responsible.
I know this!!.... :razz: ... but being the resident conservative.....I feel it my duty to point out this very strong possibility.... ;) :razz: ;D
Since none of the other contestants (as far as we know) have received death threats it would seem logical that the threats are probably coming from someone who has a problem with Miss Palin's mother, proving once again that her children are considered fair game.
Quote from: Anne on November 23, 2010, 07:59:28 PM
Since none of the other contestants (as far as we know) have received death threats it would seem logical that the threats are probably coming from someone who has a problem with Miss Palin's mother, proving once again that her children are considered fair game.
Again, there's absolutely no way of knowing that it comes from anyone on the "left" as Henry claims. Obama receives threats all the time and I don't immediately assume it's some nutjob from the right. Although there certainly is more than a fair amount of racism going around since Obama won the election, I also don't automatically assume that the people threatening Obama are racists either.
Nutjobs are nutjobs and I don't think they really affiliate themselves with either the left or the right.
As to her children being fair game, Bristol made herself such of her own volition by signing up for that gig in the first place.
That isn't exactly true, how many other contestants have received. Even if you discount this instance, two years ago she was not on DWTS, nor was her little sister when she was at at baseball game and Letterman chose to make a bad joke of her and neither was Mrs. Palin's baby. All were attacked during and after the campaign multiple times. IMO a sorry reflection of how nasty people who were so desperate to get Mr. Obama elected could be. I do not want Mrs. Palin to be President, but it is amazing that people attack someone's children because they can't get the reaction they want by attacking the parent.
It is called comedy, and public personalities and their families have been subjected to it since its inception. You put yourself out there as a public personality then you had better be prepared for the things that go with the territory, including death threats too. . . If yu cannot take it or don't want your children subjected to it then you had better STFU and stay out of the press. . . :rolleyes:
Quote from: Palehorse on November 24, 2010, 07:21:39 AM
It is called comedy, and public personalities and their families have been subjected to it since its inception. You put yourself out there as a public personality then you had better be prepared for the things that go with the territory, including death threats too. . . If yu cannot take it or don't want your children subjected to it then you had better STFU and stay out of the press. . . :rolleyes:
That is BS Palehorse..... Don't try to tell me a twenty year old kid, should receive death threat's JUST because she is on a TV show, DANCING... and she happens to be the daughter of a "politician". No excuses what-so-ever for ANYONE to threaten the life of this kid, who has harmed NOBODY....to say that comes with the territory is bullcrap.
Guys, like Anne said, I cannot think of the last time a DWTS contestant was "threatened" or any TV show had a guest that was threatened......there is no way for me to prove it....but, it is just common sense that tells you that there are a few, radical, left-wing nutjobs, who cannot stomach the fact that Palins daughter is well liked.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 24, 2010, 08:27:03 AM
That is BS Palehorse..... Don't try to tell me a twenty year old kid, should receive death threat's JUST because she is on a TV show, DANCING... and she happens to be the daughter of a "politician". No excuses what-so-ever for ANYONE to threaten the life of this kid, who has harmed NOBODY....to say that comes with the territory is bullcrap.
Guys, like Anne said, I cannot think of the last time a DWTS contestant was "threatened" or any TV show had a guest that was threatened......there is no way for me to prove it....but, it is just common sense that tells you that there are a few, radical, left-wing nutjobs, who cannot stomach the fact that Palins daughter is well liked.
It's not bullshit! Just because you do not hear about it doesn't mean they didn't experience death threats. That is a false assumption. And I never said it was right! Death threats are never right, but they are the price of fame and being in the public eye.
Just how many death threats do you think the average celebrity or individual in the public eye receives each year? The answer depends upon just how saturated they are within the current media.
Why would anyone want to kill John Lennon? But they did. Why do you think celebrities hire body guards? As a status symbol?
The fact is when you step onto that stage you are going to raise the hackles of a certain portion of the population, no matter who you are or what you represent. Whether or not that particular portion of the population contains whacknuts delusional enough to undertake such an initiative is strictly a roll of the dice that depends upon the prevalence of mental illness amongst that population.
The fact that her mother prostituted her daughter as a means to garner support during her failed VPOTUS campaign only served to stir the embers of jealousy and rage amongst those same sick individuals, and as a person who knew damned well the risks associated with putting the spotlight onto her children, Palin demonstrated just how delusional she is in assuming such a risk where her children are concerned. She'd have been better served in emulating the natural tendencies of the moose and doing everything in her power to shield her babies from such potential threats, but instead we see the baby emulating the learned behaviors of its parent, and with it the associated risks. And people want to bitch about it? What's wrong with doing a root cause analysis of the whole problem and facing the facts?
Look at the current TSA debacle playing out on the national stage right now! Just how many of those employees handling peoples junk do you think are being subjected to threats, insults, and abuse today? And we're wasting time on a heifer that wants to shake her own junk on a public stage and moves some whacknuts to threaten her life over it? :rolleyes:
Amen, Brother Palehorse!
Quote from: Palehorse on November 24, 2010, 08:46:35 AM
And we're wasting time on a heifer that wants to shake her own junk on a public stage and moves some whacknuts to threaten her life over it? :rolleyes:
REALLY? :spooked: :no:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 24, 2010, 10:01:24 AM
REALLY? :spooked: :no:
Yes REALLY!
What makes her any different than anyone else in the public eye???? If she's really concerned then let her hire a bodyguard or two like everyone else in her situation! Nobody has hurt her or forced her to do the things she chose to do. So why are there some folks so worked up about it?
You want something to get worked up about? Try flying anywhere and get your junk handled. . .
Quote from: Palehorse on November 24, 2010, 10:40:44 AM
Yes REALLY!
What makes her any different than anyone else in the public eye? ??? If she's really concerned then let her hire a bodyguard or two like everyone else in her situation! Nobody has hurt her or forced her to do the things she chose to do. So why are there some folks so worked up about it?
You want something to get worked up about? Try flying anywhere and get your junk handled. . .
I never said or insinuated that anybody forced her to do anything....all I ever stated was, I find it sad, that a twenty year old kid is subject to this kind of pressure by some idiots out there, JUST because she is dancing on a show.
Just as I find it sad that she is referred to as a heifer.... :rolleyes:
the bottom line is, liberals hate her Mom, so they have done everthing they can to try to demean her daughter....I know she "chose" to get in the spot light, but that still doesn't change the fact how ignorant and immature people act. She has hurt no one.
and I, just think it sucks................that's it.
I'm not going to lose any sleep on it...................just find it almost comical how, this kid is attacked by those who dislike her mom.
Quote from: Palehorse on November 24, 2010, 07:21:39 AM
It is called comedy, and public personalities and their families have been subjected to it since its inception. You put yourself out there as a public personality then you had better be prepared for the things that go with the territory, including death threats too. . . If yu cannot take it or don't want your children subjected to it then you had better STFU and stay out of the press. . . :rolleyes:
That isn't comedy, it is just plain being mean and trying to gain ratings at the expense of a child. Mrs. Palin did not do anything in her campaign that Mr. Obama did, his children were front and center stage but no one attacked them. It is pure and simple an attack on the Palin's children for the sake of electing Mr, Obama. Disgraceful on the part of those who do it.
Quote from: Anne on November 24, 2010, 11:06:31 AM
That isn't comedy, it is just plain being mean and trying to gain ratings at the expense of a child. Mrs. Palin did not do anything in her campaign that Mr. Obama did, his children were front and center stage but no one attacked them. It is pure and simple an attack on the Palin's children for the sake of electing Mr, Obama. Disgraceful on the part of those who do it.
That's just more bullshit histrionics and puffery. Both of them had equal secret service protections during the campaign; one used it wisely the other didn't. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 24, 2010, 11:03:12 AM
I never said or insinuated that anybody forced her to do anything....all I ever stated was, I find it sad, that a twenty year old kid is subject to this kind of pressure by some idiots out there, JUST because she is dancing on a show.
Just as I find it sad that she is referred to as a heifer.... :rolleyes:
the bottom line is, liberals hate her Mom, so they have done everthing they can to try to demean her daughter....I know she "chose" to get in the spot light, but that still doesn't change the fact how ignorant and immature people act. She has hurt no one.
and I, just think it sucks................that's it.
I'm not going to lose any sleep on it...................just find it almost comical how, this kid is attacked by those who dislike her mom.
You are correct about one thing; she is indeed not a heifer! She has given birth! :biggrin:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 24, 2010, 11:03:12 AM
I never said or insinuated that anybody forced her to do anything....all I ever stated was, I find it sad, that a twenty year old kid is subject to this kind of pressure by some idiots out there, JUST because she is dancing on a show.
Just as I find it sad that she is referred to as a heifer.... :rolleyes:
the bottom line is, liberals hate her Mom, so they have done everthing they can to try to demean her daughter....I know she "chose" to get in the spot light, but that still doesn't change the fact how ignorant and immature people act. She has hurt no one.
and I, just think it sucks................that's it.
I'm not going to lose any sleep on it...................just find it almost comical how, this kid is attacked by those who dislike her mom.
I never said, you said, she was forced into making the choices she has made, but rather used the statement as a reminder that each of us make choices in life and dealing with the results of those decisions is incumbent upon the individual. In other words, to coin a phrase the conservatives are so fond of tossing about, it is a part of" personal responsibility"!
Let me state once again, I am in no way endorsing or supporting the fact that someone may or may not have initiated a threat to the safety and well being of this individual or any other for that matter. But what I am saying is that if this is indeed a case of the "sins of the mother being visited upon the daughter", then would it not be prudent for the daughter to take measures to assure it is minimized and/or neutralized?
Putting yourself into the public arena can be lucrative and rewarding, but nothing is free and each choice we make comes with its associated price and risks. When one chooses to place themselves into the public arena, then you are saying that you understand the risks associated with the double edged sword that is the public's whimsical nature, and are willing to assume those risks and/or undertake measures to neutralize them. Unwritten rule but pretty much universally understood amongst those who court the favors of the public.
That she, if the media is to be believed, was caught unawares surrounding the potential for threats to her well being, only reinforces the fact she acknowledges the risks and has made a cognizant decision to move forward despite said risks. Whether she initiates appropriate measures to remediate those risks is her affirmation as well. So why should I worry about it? :confused: It may not be right but it is not my choice and certainly not my problem.
I don't see her or her kind worrying one bit about it!
never said I was worried either....just saying it is sad.
that's it. nothing more, nothing less.
Did you not think it was sad when an Abortion Doctor got shot and killed?
I guess you could say, he knew there was a risk, so screw him.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 24, 2010, 11:59:02 AM
never said I was worried either....just saying it is sad.
that's it. nothing more, nothing less.
Did you not think it was sad when an Abortion Doctor got shot and killed?
I guess you could say, he knew there was a risk, so screw him.
What would Jesus say Henry. Nothing like a good Christian. Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 24, 2010, 11:59:02 AM
never said I was worried either....just saying it is sad.
that's it. nothing more, nothing less.
Did you not think it was sad when an Abortion Doctor got shot and killed?
I guess you could say, he knew there was a risk, so screw him.
BIG difference between the threat and the doing. . . . HUGE difference. . . And as I said, I am
not endorsing
anyone being threatened with bodily harm. . . much less it actually taking place. But the risk factor still applies. . .
But, feel free to continue with the histrionics if it makes you feel better! :biggrin:
Quote from: Palehorse on November 24, 2010, 01:27:26 PM
But, feel free to continue with the histrionics if it makes you feel better! :biggrin:
actually, it DOES make me feel a "little" better......being a compassionate conservative and all... :razz:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 24, 2010, 01:45:20 PM
actually, it DOES make me feel a "little" better......being a compassionate conservative and all... :razz:
:rolleyes:
Far be it from me to stand in the way of the harmonic digestive system you are going to be over-using over the next 3 or 4 days! :biggrin:
One question here. What would have been said if the Republican's had joked about and attacked Obama's and Biden's kids during the campaign like the Dems did and are still doing with Palin? Would that have been right and to be expected just because he was running for President and Biden Vice President? An attack is an attack and it is not comedy it is rude and childish.
Quote from: me on November 24, 2010, 02:01:56 PM
One question here. What would have been said if the Republican's had joked about and attacked Obama's and Biden's kids during the campaign like the Dems did and are still doing with Palin? Would that have been right and to be expected just because he was running for President and Biden Vice President? An attack is an attack and it is not comedy it is rude and childish.
Probably the same thing that was said about them when disparaging remarks were made about this child of the White House. Do you really have such selective memory?
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Uh, that wasn't the question. Besides that's when the children were supposedly made off limits. Remember????
Quote from: Locutus on November 24, 2010, 02:07:15 PM
Probably the same thing that was said about them when disparaging remarks were made about this child of the White House. Do you really have such selective memory?
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Quote from: me on November 24, 2010, 02:01:56 PM
One question here. What would have been said if the Republican's had joked about and attacked Obama's and Biden's kids during the campaign like the Dems did and are still doing with Palin? Would that have been right and to be expected just because he was running for President and Biden Vice President? An attack is an attack and it is not comedy it is rude and childish.
My how short your memory is! Do you not recall the Chelsea Clinton era?
I didn't see the POTUS or VPOTUS using their children as tools during talk shows and campaign speeches, outside of the obligatory family pictures that every friggin one of them do. . .
Woulda, coulda, but didn't. Why can't you just accept that both of their "situations" are a direct result of the personal choices they have made? Instead of ignoring jokes or humor created at their expense they chose to go on the offensive over it early on and in so doing provided more fodder for the cannons. How is that anyone's fault but their own? If they want it to go away why don't they both just STFU and go back to the ice-flows and the last frontier? (And stay there as Mrs Bush so wisely stated here lately).
I'll tell you why they won't; They are both attention whores! :yes: :yes: :yes:
Quote from: Palehorse on November 24, 2010, 02:13:11 PM
My how short your memory is! Do you not recall the Chelsea Clinton era?
Great minds!! :biggrin:
I think many are really missing the point here.....Sarah Palin is NOT the POTUS or the VPOTUS. She is nothing more right now than political speaker and a celebrity. Her daughter was just a normal kid, who was working in a doctors office three months ago. She was 'asked' by ABC, to be on their show. She accepted and has been a huge hit.
Because of her connection, she has been ridiculed and threatened. She has taken all of this in stride, and has shown a great amount of poise and dignity.
Had anything happened to her, and her life was taken, by the responses that has been posted on here for the last several days, I think it would please some folks. THAT is what I find is sad. For God's sake a man shot out his TV JUST because she was voted to the finals of a TV show.
This girl has done absolutly NOTHING to harm anyone, yet you guys call her names and belittle her...
that is SAD!...
I haven't called her anything HH. I merely said that she inserted herself into the public eye by her own volition when she signed up for that gig in the first place.
And BTW, I think you're dead wrong if you think anyone here would take pleasure if something bad happened to Bristol Palin at the hands of a nutjob.
Dead wrong indeed.
Quote from: Locutus on November 24, 2010, 02:23:22 PM
Great minds!! :biggrin:
Quote from: Locutus on November 24, 2010, 02:26:48 PM
And BTW, I think you're dead wrong if you think anyone here would take pleasure if something bad happened to Bristol Palin at the hands of a nutjob.
Dead wrong indeed.
Great minds indeed! :biggrin:
Quote from: Locutus on November 24, 2010, 02:26:48 PM
And BTW, I think you're dead wrong if you think anyone here would take pleasure if something bad happened to Bristol Palin at the hands of a nutjob.
Dead wrong indeed.
and I sadly disagree..
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 24, 2010, 02:23:37 PM
I think many are really missing the point here.....Sarah Palin is NOT the POTUS or the VPOTUS. She is nothing more right now than political speaker and a celebrity.
Well. . . there's one thing to be thankful for this season!
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 24, 2010, 02:23:37 PM
Her daughter was just a normal kid, who was working in a doctors office three months ago. She was 'asked' by ABC, to be on their show. She accepted and has been a huge hit.
Because of her connection, she has been ridiculed and threatened. She has taken all of this in stride, and has shown a great amount of poise and dignity.
That's really glossing over the whole process a whole lot don't you think? Do you think she'd have been "asked" if her mother had not been a VP candidate and she herself had not been all over the press as a direct result of her mothers actions? Do you think she'd have had the drive to pursue it on her own and audition, etc?
That aside, the bottom line she got the opportunity because of her attention whore mother!
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 24, 2010, 02:23:37 PM
Had anything happened to her, and her life was taken, by the responses that has been posted on here for the last several days, I think it would please some folks. THAT is what I find is sad. For God's sake a man shot out his TV JUST because she was voted to the finals of a TV show.
This girl has done absolutly NOTHING to harm anyone, yet you guys call her names and belittle her...
that is SAD!...
What's sad is that people are so jacked up emotionally over such programming as to be moved to shoot their friggin TV set over it, or threaten a contestant in the first place! Moreover, people take statements within an opinion forum and spin them until they equate to a physical threat to the very same contestant, when no such intention or statement was or has been made.
So I called her an attention whore! She is what she is and at least she gets it honestly. It is a learned behavior and we ALL know where she learned it now don't we? :rolleyes: Would you prefer I used the term attention prostitute?
The program is nothing more than entertainment, same as football, hockey, or any other televised competitive activity. Competition by its very nature requires that the "viewers" choose sides, and I'd venture to say worse things have been said about and to the likes of professional sports figures than has been said about or to either Palin.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 24, 2010, 02:35:22 PM
and I sadly disagree..
You seriously think some people on here would take pleasure if something like that happened?!?!???? Please, tell us who you think would take that position.
Quote from: Locutus on November 24, 2010, 03:09:55 PM
You seriously think some people on here would take pleasure if something like that happened?!?!???? Please, tell us who you think would take that position.
I have my opinions, and it is best if I do not share them on here.
Horsefeathers!
Quote from: Palehorse on November 24, 2010, 03:25:22 PM
Horsefeathers!
it is not you, if THAT is what you are worried about.....but, I have my reasons for my answer. You may not like it or believe it, but that is no sweat off of me. I stand by my answer.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 24, 2010, 03:24:36 PM
I have my opinions, and it is best if I do not share them on here.
and that's all that matters, to helll w/ the truth. I can't think of one member who I think would take pleasure in harm coming to her, not one. I dunno, maybe you mean yourself. You did seem to enjoy the demise of Robert Byrd.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on November 24, 2010, 03:42:04 PM
and that's all that matters, to helll w/ the truth. I can't think of one member who I think would take pleasure in harm coming to her, not one. I dunno, maybe you mean yourself. You did seem to enjoy the demise of Robert Byrd.
and you would be 100% wrong about that too...but, if that is your opinion. so be it.
(CNN) - The Barbara Bush-Sarah Palin verbal spat continued Wednesday with Palin's response to the former first lady, who on Monday said she should stay in Alaska.
"I don't think the majority of Americans want to put up with the blue-bloods," Palin said in a radio interview on the Laura Ingraham Show Wednesday. "With all due respect because I love the Bushes, the blue-bloods who want to pick and choose their winners instead of allowing competition."
The former Alaska governor said she will not be suppressed by leaders of the Republican Party, who she said are ignoring "the will of the people." She also called their statements "inefficient," "unprofessional" and "immature."
Wednesday's interview coincides with the release of her new book, "America by Heart."
However, on conservative Sean Hannity's radio show Tuesday, Palin said if her 2012 candidacy were hurting the Republican Party she would step aside. . .
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/11/24/palin-hits-back-at-barbara-bush/#more-136981 (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/11/24/palin-hits-back-at-barbara-bush/#more-136981)
BEEE UUUUU TI FULLLLLLL! :food24: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
She can't even get along with her own party when she doesn't hold an office, what makes people think she could get any more cooperation out of congressional leadership and congress itself than the current POTUS????:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
http://www.youtube.com/v/-Ux3-a9RE1Q
Yeah, if she isn't president next year, maybe NASA will consider her for a rocket scientist position? :biggrin:
QuoteSarah Palin has intervened in the crisis in Korea, calling into the Glenn Beck radio show to give her view. She may be the leader of the free world at some point. There is global interest in her pronouncements. So what's her foreign policy prescription this time?
"Obviously, we've got to stand with our North Korean allies." It was pointed out to her that the U.S. is on the side of the South Koreans and she must have meant "South" not "North". She said: "Er, yes."
http://blogs.wsj.com/iainmartin/2010/11/25/sarah-palin-says-us-must-stand-with-north-korean-allies/
Seriously, is there any way to turn it off!!!!!!! She's such an embarrassment. :mad:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on November 25, 2010, 10:45:39 AM
Yeah, if she isn't president next year, maybe NASA will consider her for a rocket scientist position? :biggrin:
http://blogs.wsj.com/iainmartin/2010/11/25/sarah-palin-says-us-must-stand-with-north-korean-allies/
Seriously, is there any way to turn it off!!!!!!! She's such an embarrassment. :mad:
I say we each contribute 1 dollar to the Palin Lobotomy fund. . . Oh wait. . . she's already had that procedure! :mad: :mad: :mad:
Ya, just think Obama only thought there were 57 states at one point in his campaign but Palin mistook north for south.......damn what a major mistake. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on November 25, 2010, 10:45:39 AM
Yeah, if she isn't president next year, maybe NASA will consider her for a rocket scientist position? :biggrin:
http://blogs.wsj.com/iainmartin/2010/11/25/sarah-palin-says-us-must-stand-with-north-korean-allies/
Seriously, is there any way to turn it off!!!!!!! She's such an embarrassment. :mad:
Big difference between making one verbal error and making them time after time after time after time after time after time,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
and yet despite everything you have read about her..............I'm betting she would not have screwed up this country as much as Obama has in the two years he has been here.....he has grown our debt..$3,170,127,402,015 since he was inaugurated...Bush increased the debt$4,899,100,310,609 during his 8-years....unemployement under Bush was around 5% his whole two terms........Obama...near 10% .....
failed healthcare, banks in turmoil, STILL have two wars (and maybe three)
so WHY exactly you guys are laughing is a real puzzle........Palin has not even said she was going to run and you guys are wasting all sorts of energy, but are tickled to death with the way our country is headed....
just sayin.. :rolleyes:
Quote from: followsthewolf on November 26, 2010, 09:20:08 AM
Big difference between making one verbal error and making them time after time after time after time after time after time,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Well, yeah, it's obviously not a verbal error on Palin's part. She's clueless.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 26, 2010, 10:29:48 AM
and yet despite everything you have read about her..............I'm betting she would not have screwed up this country as much as Obama has in the two years he has been here.....he has grown our debt..$3,170,127,402,015 since he was inaugurated...Bush increased the debt$4,899,100,310,609 during his 8-years....unemployement under Bush was around 5% his whole two terms........Obama...near 10% .....
failed healthcare, banks in turmoil, STILL have two wars (and maybe three)
so WHY exactly you guys are laughing is a real puzzle........Palin has not even said she was going to run and you guys are wasting all sorts of energy, but are tickled to death with the way our country is headed....
just sayin.. :rolleyes:
You can believe it, but that doesn't make it true. Just sayin'. :smile:
OMG. . . My wife is watching some programming on TLC, and they are running promo's for Sarah Palin's "Alaska" every 5 minutes! If I hear her say "This is so much better than some dusty political office. I'd much rather be out here being free than in some dusty political office", one more time, I am going to begin projectile vomiting! (retch - gag- retch) :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
I keep asking her why she is running her pie hole all over the country then and flipping her the bird! :finger01:
Quote from: Palehorse on November 26, 2010, 11:56:58 AM
OMG. . . My wife is watching some programming on TLC, and they are running promo's for Sarah Palin's "Alaska" every 5 minutes! If I hear her say "This is so much better than some dusty political office. I'd much rather be out here being free than in some dusty political office", one more time, I am going to begin projectile vomiting! (retch - gag- retch) :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
I keep asking her why she is running her pie hole all over the country then and flipping her the bird! :finger01:
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :hug:
Quote from: Palehorse on November 26, 2010, 11:56:58 AM
OMG. . . My wife is watching some programming on TLC, and they are running promo's for Sarah Palin's "Alaska" every 5 minutes! If I hear her say "This is so much better than some dusty political office. I'd much rather be out here being free than in some dusty political office", one more time, I am going to begin projectile vomiting! (retch - gag- retch) :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
I keep asking her why she is running her pie hole all over the country then and flipping her the bird! :finger01:
Okay, I gotta go with you on that one too!!! ;D ;D
(CNN) – Joe Scarborough, the MSNBC host and former conservative congressman from Florida, says its time for members of his party to get off the sidelines and express their true feelings about Sarah Palin.
"Republicans have a problem. The most-talked-about figure in the GOP is a reality show star who cannot be elected," Scarborough writes in a column for Politico out Tuesday. "And yet the same leaders who fret that Sarah Palin could devastate their party in 2012 are too scared to say in public what they all complain about in private."
Scarborough, who recently returned to air after MSNBC suspended him for making a series of political contributions he did not disclose to the network, also took aim at the former Alaska governor for even considering a White House bid.
"What man or mouse with a fully functioning human brain and a résumé as thin as Palin's would flirt with a presidential run? It makes the political biography of Barack Obama look more like Winston Churchill's," writes Scarborough, later adding that Palin is pursuing a "dopey dream."
The comments come several days after Palin herself stoked speculation she is considering a run for president, with the 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee saying in several media interviews that she is conferring with friends and families about the prospect and thinks she could beat President Obama.
But Scarborough writes that prospect is completely unfounded and faults Palin for comparing her resume, which now includes starring in a TLC reality show, to that of Ronald Reagan, the onetime Hollywood actor. Scarborough also isn't pleased Palin painted President George H.W. Bush and wife Barbara in a recent interview as out-of-touch "blue bloods."
"Perhaps her anger was understandable," a sarcastic Scarborough says. "After all, these disconnected "blue bloods" had nothing in their backgrounds that could ever make them understand "real America" like a former governor from Alaska who quit in the middle of her first term and then got rich.
"I suppose Palin's harsh dismissal of this great man is more understandable after one reads her biography and realizes that, like Bush, she accomplished a great deal in her early 20s. Who wouldn't agree that finishing third in the Miss Alaska beauty contest is every bit as treacherous as risking your life in military combat?" continued Scarborough, in reference to the elder Bush's tenure as combat pilot in World War II.
Palin has yet to respond to the comments.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/11/30/trending-palin-must-be-stopped-says-scarborough/#more-137446 (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/11/30/trending-palin-must-be-stopped-says-scarborough/#more-137446)
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Did you hear Sarah Palin is now the headliner for the latest Fox reality series? Yup! It's called "Snapping Vaginas" !
(I also hear the two Barbs, Boxer and Bush, are joining her in the series season opener!)
How do you know that you're a white trash media whore?
QuoteSarah welcomes Kate Gosselin and her children to Alaska. To prepare for a camping trip with the kids, Sarah takes Kate to a bear safety class for rifle practice. Then Kate and the kids experience the wilderness braving the challenges of camping i ...
When you hang out with Kate Gosselin :biggrin:
http://tlc.discovery.com/videos/sarah-palins-alaska-camping-out.html#mkcpgn=fb3
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Quote from: Palehorse on December 12, 2010, 04:24:34 PM
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
All I want for Christmas is for Sarah Palin to run on the Tea Party ticket as their President of the USA. I sure would like to see a three party race. But I would settle for Republicans to have on their ticket. :biggrin: :yeah: :yeah:
Make fun if you want but Kate and her kids are learning how to survive in the wild and what it's like to actually have to hunt for food instead of go to the grocery store and snatch it off the shelf which was her purpose in taking her kids to Alaska.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on December 12, 2010, 03:55:54 PM
How do you know that you're a white trash media whore?
When you hang out with Kate Gosselin :biggrin:
http://tlc.discovery.com/videos/sarah-palins-alaska-camping-out.html#mkcpgn=fb3
For Sarah to be a great game hunter. :rifle: Her freezer is sure small. She couldn't get a whole Moose in it. :rotfl: :rotfl:
:rifle: Bang, bang she got her gun! :rifle:
If you didn't watch the show then STFU because you have no clue what you're talking about.
Quote from: The Troll on December 13, 2010, 08:20:11 AM
For Sarah to be a great game hunter. :rifle: Her freezer is sure small. She couldn't get a whole Moose in it. :rotfl: :rotfl:
:rifle: Bang, bang she got her gun! :rifle:
Quote from: me on December 12, 2010, 09:36:02 PM
Make fun if you want but Kate and her kids are learning how to survive in the wild and what it's like to actually have to hunt for food instead of go to the grocery store and snatch it off the shelf which was her purpose in taking her kids to Alaska.
Oh, bullshit.
Her "hunts" are a joke. She hasn't hunted anything. Someone else found it for her, put the rifle in her hands, and did everything but wipe her ass for her.
That is not hunting, it is "fool myself into thinking I'm a great hunter" hunting.
When you walk into a wildlife habitat with a high-powered rifle, you already have an advantage. Further, when you have no idea about the habits, movements, etc. of the wildlife you're hunting, you are not doing it yourself, you're nothing but a child being dressed and fed. Sitting comfortably in a stand with five or six hundred dollars worth of comfort around you, you aren't hunting at all, you are waiting for something to come by so you can kill it.
When she goes out by herself and tracks down some big game, shoots it, field dresses it, drags it out of the woods, butchers it, and cooks it herself, I will begin to think she might be classified as a hunter.
Oh, and btw, yes, I have done all of that myself. But I don't have a single trophy on my walls to prove it. I don't believe in that, either.
Quote from: Exterminator on December 13, 2010, 08:44:38 AM
Oh, bullshit.
I have never agreed with you more, Exterminator.
That's one of the biggest crocks of bullshit I've ever heard.
Uh, I don't think it would be a good idea to go out by yourself in Alaska.
Quote from: followsthewolf on December 13, 2010, 08:46:59 AM
Her "hunts" are a joke. She hasn't hunted anything. Someone else found it for her, put the rifle in her hands, and did everything but wipe her ass for her.
That is not hunting, it is "fool myself into thinking I'm a great hunter" hunting.
When you walk into a wildlife habitat with a high-powered rifle, you already have an advantage. Further, when you have no idea about the habits, movements, etc. of the wildlife you're hunting, you are not doing it yourself, you're nothing but a child being dressed and fed. Sitting comfortably in a stand with five or six hundred dollars worth of comfort around you, you aren't hunting at all, you are waiting for something to come by so you can kill it.
When she goes out by herself and tracks down some big game, shoots it, field dresses it, drags it out of the woods, butchers it, and cooks it herself, I will begin to think she might be classified as a hunter.
Oh, and btw, yes, I have done all of that myself. But I don't have a single trophy on my walls to prove it. I don't believe in that, either.
Quote from: followsthewolf on December 13, 2010, 08:46:59 AM
Sitting comfortably in a stand with five or six hundred dollars worth of comfort around you, you aren't hunting at all, you are waiting for something to come by so you can kill it.
I said almost exactly this same thing to someone on Facebook recently who posted that she was sitting in a tree stand "hunting".
Like I said, if you didn't watch the show then STFU. She was not surrounded in comfort nor was she in a tree stand.
Quote from: Exterminator on December 13, 2010, 08:57:49 AM
I said almost exactly this same thing to someone on Facebook recently who posted that she was sitting in a tree stand "hunting".
So you are saying she did all of the scouting, finding, shooting, dressing, dragging, and butchering all by herself, with no help?
Quote from: me on December 13, 2010, 09:01:50 AM
Like I said, if you didn't watch the show then STFU. She was not surrounded in comfort nor was she in a tree stand.
Bullshit
Nope, didn't say that. I said I don't believe it would be a good idea to go out hunting by yourself in Alaska.
Quote from: followsthewolf on December 13, 2010, 09:10:00 AM
So you are saying she did all of the scouting, finding, shooting, dressing, dragging, and butchering all by herself, with no help?
Why?
Many of us have done just that.
Quote from: me on December 13, 2010, 08:31:33 AM
If you didn't watch the show then STFU because you have no clue what you're talking about.
Hey dumb bunny I watched the show. Her killing that Caribou was like shooting a pet cow. Just how many shots did she get at the animal, 6 or 7. What a shot. :rifle: You must have not watched the show. Remember how she went out to the freezer to look an how much meat she had. Hell, her freezer is smaller that the refrigerator I have in the back room to keep my beer in. So why don't you STFU.
Quote from: me on December 13, 2010, 09:01:50 AM
Like I said, if you didn't watch the show then STFU. She was not surrounded in comfort nor was she in a tree stand.
That's like saying that if I didn't see Superman, I can't say for sure that people can't fly. You sure are gullible.
You've been hunting in the middle of no where in Alaska by yourself?
Quote from: followsthewolf on December 13, 2010, 09:32:08 AM
Why?
Many of us have done just that.
Ya, they were not shooting the motel with the running water and restaurants they built out there in the wilderness just for her. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Exterminator on December 13, 2010, 10:00:46 AM
That's like saying that if I didn't see Superman, I can't say for sure that people can't fly. You sure are gullible.
The sight was off on the first gun in case you didn't catch that and she did hit it first shot out of the other gun she was handed. You guy's are all just sexist is your problem.
Quote from: The Troll on December 13, 2010, 09:56:47 AM
Hey dumb bunny I watched the show. Her killing that Caribou was like shooting a pet cow. Just how many shots did she get at the animal, 6 or 7. What a shot. :rifle: You must have not watched the show. Remember how she went out to the freezer to look an how much meat she had. Hell, her freezer is smaller that the refrigerator I have in the back room to keep my beer in. So why don't you STFU.
The ability to recognize a dumb cunt does not make someone sexist.
". . .the other gun she was handed." Listen to yourself. You think she did all of this by herself?
And what about the other crew members, guides, etc.?
What did they do? All of that support for the wilderness shoot, and she did it all by her lil' ol' shucks lonesome?
Get real.
You have a fantasy about being what Palin is faking.
Quote from: me on December 13, 2010, 10:45:32 AM
You've been hunting in the middle of no where in Alaska by yourself?
Actually, in the middle of several nowheres, both hunting and researching (sometimes concurrently).
All by my lil' ol' self.
Sometimes it fought back.
And calling a woman, any woman, that proves my point. You are a sexist pure and simple.
Quote from: Exterminator on December 13, 2010, 10:55:35 AM
The ability to recognize a dumb cunt does not make someone sexist.
Yes, handed to her by the other guy that went with them. What was she supposed to do get up and take her eyes off the target and get it herself? I don't have any fantasies about anything you are just too caught up in the media BS about her.
Quote from: followsthewolf on December 13, 2010, 11:00:32 AM
". . .the other gun she was handed." Listen to yourself. You think she did all of this by herself?
And what about the other crew members, guides, etc.?
What did they do? All of that support for the wilderness shoot, and she did it all by her lil' ol' shucks lonesome?
Get real.
You have a fantasy about being what Palin is faking.
Wow, I'm not impressed. She usually doesn't have a camera crew with her when she goes this was done as a special for TV to show what it's like up there. Her 72yr old dad was the "guide". You guy's are just being what you were programed to be by the garbage you've heard out of the lamestream media. And if you indeed did go into a wilderness like Alaska's alone you weren't being too smart were you? You could have ended up like a guy a friend of ours knew who lived out in the middle of no where in Wisconsin. No one heard from him for a while and they went up to investigate and found nothing but a few bones and his gun.
Quote from: followsthewolf on December 13, 2010, 11:06:54 AM
Actually, in the middle of several nowheres, both hunting and researching (sometimes concurrently).
All by my lil' ol' self.
Sometimes it fought back.
Quote from: me on December 13, 2010, 02:13:13 PM
And calling a woman, any woman, that proves my point. You are a sexist pure and simple.
Whatever...next you'll be telling us (again) how tired you are of all of the politically correct bullshit...
Quote from: me on December 13, 2010, 10:49:53 AM
The sight was off on the first gun in case you didn't catch that and she did hit it first shot out of the other gun she was handed. You guy's are all just sexist is your problem.
Every good hunter has his or her gun sighted in. That's like taking your guns and no bullets. But for that Caribou to stand there for her to shoot at it 6 or 7 times, hell that's like shooting old Bossy the cow at the feed trough. Mooooo. Mooooo. :rifle: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: Bang, bang bang :rifle:
Quote from: me on December 13, 2010, 02:40:06 PM
You could have ended up like a guy a friend of ours knew who lived out in the middle of no where in Wisconsin.
Awesome! Another of me's cousin's brother's friend's sister-in-law's phlebotomist's stories!
Quote from: The Troll on December 13, 2010, 02:43:08 PM
Every good hunter has his or her gun sighted in.
Yep, basic marksmanship 101.
Quote from: Exterminator on December 13, 2010, 02:46:04 PM
Yep, basic marksmanship 101.
Can you imagine what it would be like if our boys in Afghanistan didn't have their rifles sighted in. That's why the Taliban are such poor shots. They don't practice and not good a sighting in their guns.
Quote from: me on December 13, 2010, 02:40:06 PM
Yes, handed to her by the other guy that went with them. What was she supposed to do get up and take her eyes off the target and get it herself? I don't have any fantasies about anything you are just too caught up in the media BS about her.
Wow, I'm not impressed. She usually doesn't have a camera crew with her when she goes this was done as a special for TV to show what it's like up there. Her 72yr old dad was the "guide". You guy's are just being what you were programed to be by the garbage you've heard out of the lamestream media. And if you indeed did go into a wilderness like Alaska's alone you weren't being too smart were you? You could have ended up like a guy a friend of ours knew who lived out in the middle of no where in Wisconsin. No one heard from him for a while and they went up to investigate and found nothing but a few bones and his gun.
Yeah.
And nobody can make me change my mind.
So there!!!
And.....and.....I know best 'cuz I really, really likes sarah.
Huh.
And that's all there is to it.
I'm right.
I know it.
:finger01: :finger01: :finger2: :finger2: :finger2: :kissit:
Quote from: Exterminator on December 13, 2010, 02:44:52 PM
Awesome! Another of me's cousin's brother's friend's sister-in-law's phlebotomist's stories!
Quote from: me on December 13, 2010, 03:52:23 PM
:finger01: :finger01: :finger2: :finger2: :finger2: :kissit:
Then promptly stomps foot, pounds fist, takes toys and goes home.
(P.S. I didn't talk about what I have done to impress you. I'm far too old to give a shit if I impress anyone about anything. I simply told you those things to let you know that some of us have a great deal of experience with some things, and have no tolerance for pretenders like palin.)
You wouldn't give her a chance no matter what and you know it.
Quote from: followsthewolf on December 13, 2010, 04:03:40 PM
Then promptly stomps foot, pounds fist, takes toys and goes home.
(P.S. I didn't talk about what I have done to impress you. I'm far too old to give a shit if I impress anyone about anything. I simply told you those things to let you know that some of us have a great deal of experience with some things, and have no tolerance for pretenders like palin.)
Palin is indeed "this fuckin' stupid"!
And apparently she is not alone! :spooked: :spooked: :spooked: :spooked:
Quote from: me on December 13, 2010, 04:11:31 PM
You wouldn't give her a chance no matter what and you know it.
Bull.
She's had a thousand chances to show who and what she is.
There is now a serious track record about her lack of knowledge and her attempts to bs her way through a hundreds of situations, most of which she sought out to display herself publicly.
She simply is what she has proven herself to be over and over -- a fraud.
Attention Whore
A pervasive pattern of excessive emotionality and attention seeking, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
1.is uncomfortable in situations in which he or she is not the center of attention
2.interaction with others is often characterized by inappropriate sexually seductive or provocative behavior
3.displays rapidly shifting and shallow expression of emotions
4.consistently uses physical appearance to draw attention to self
5.has a style of speech that is excessively impressionistic and lacking in detail
6.shows self-dramatization, theatricality, and exaggerated expression of emotion
7.is suggestible, i.e., easily influenced by others or circumstances
8.considers relationships to be more intimate than they actually are.
(http://uvtblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/sarah-palin-attention-whore.jpg)
Quote from: me on December 13, 2010, 04:11:31 PM
You wouldn't give her a chance no matter what and you know it.
Oh come on "ME", I want her to be the Republican candidate for president. I sure would, I with you. She would make a great candidate. :yes:
Now, if you had watched the show you would know her dad said he did set the sight before they left when she told him it was off and he took the gun and tested it after they got back to camp and found she was right. The shots did startle the animal and he jumped and looked around but they were out of sight. If you watched the show you would remember they were in the open, landscape wise, but hidden and in the distance so the animal saw nothing out of the ordinary. When she was handed the other rifle, which did kick unlike the first one which she preferred, she hit it in the kill zone first shot out of that rifle.
She is no more a media whore than anyone else who goes on camera or is in the public eye so quit with that already. And Troll, as far as her freezer goes you don't know but what they also have a larger one. We have a small one, a large one, and the one in our fridge so you can't judge a thing on the one you happened to see. I don't imagine anyone in Alaska has just one small freezer.
I'm sorry but I just don't understand the mentality of putting someone and their family down or calling them names just because they happen to disagree with them politically. It is childish and non productive and serves no purpose whatsoever.
Sarah Palin serves no purpose whatsoever but feel free to continue to worship the ground she walks on...everyone needs a hero and it's only natural that losers choose losers as theirs.
Quote from: Exterminator on December 14, 2010, 07:41:42 AM
Sarah Palin serves no purpose whatsoever but feel free to continue to worship the ground she walks on...everyone needs a hero and it's only natural that losers choose losers as theirs.
What more can I say, but I want her to lead the Republican Party. :music1: When you wish of a star. :music1: Go Sarah go, go, go! :music1:
All I have to say about Palin is, she is not as bad as she has been portrayed by the media. With that said, I want in no way, for her to be running for POTUS. Nor do I think she will be. Troll is correct with his forcast on this. She also has a style of speech that is excessively impressionistic and lacking in detail (#5 on Palehorses list) that drives me crazy. (Thanks to SNL). I hope she merely continues to give speeches and raise money for the conservative movement....and let it go at that.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 14, 2010, 10:36:49 AM
I hope she merely continues to give speeches and raise money for the conservative movement....and let it go at that.
You don't get it; do you? It isn't about the conservative movement for her; that is just a vehicle for her own shameless self-promotion and she'd shove the lot of you under the bus in a minute if it suits her.
Quote from: Exterminator on December 14, 2010, 10:50:56 AM
You don't get it; do you? It isn't about the conservative movement for her; that is just a vehicle for her own shameless self-promotion and she'd shove the lot of you under the bus in a minute if it suits her.
Listen, I am not putting her on any pedestal (sp?) or do I worship any ground she walks on. She has built a pretty strong base, even if you don't like them, and IF she can continue to raise money, and draw support to a "true" conservative, then I am not going to trash her. If she proves out to be as you say, she will run her course with the conservatives soon enough and will go away.
Nah.
She appeals to every wanker who wants to hit it and every woman who knows she has about the same IQ as Palin but not the looks and has a fantasy that they want to be her. People with unfulfilled lives.
And, since there are so many of them who can't separate reality from fantasy, they will keep her around kind of as a "maybe I can fulfill that wish sometime."
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 14, 2010, 10:56:41 AM
Listen, I am not putting her on any pedestal (sp?) or do I worship any ground she walks on. She has built a pretty strong base, even if you don't like them, and IF she can continue to raise money, and draw support to a "true" conservative, then I am not going to trash her. If she proves out to be as you say, she will run her course with the conservatives soon enough and will go away.
Oh my gosh, I agree with you again. Poor old Sarah has no idea what would happen if the Conservative Republicans thought she could get the main spot on the ticket. They would just plain kill her. They don't want her no way no how. You are right on this one, Henry. :yes: :biggrin:
Doesn't all that just prove she is pimping herself out for the conservatives, and thusly validating that she is indeed an:
Attention Whore
A pervasive pattern of excessive emotionality and attention seeking, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
1.is uncomfortable in situations in which he or she is not the center of attention
2.interaction with others is often characterized by inappropriate sexually seductive or provocative behavior
3.displays rapidly shifting and shallow expression of emotions
4.consistently uses physical appearance to draw attention to self
5.has a style of speech that is excessively impressionistic and lacking in detail
6.shows self-dramatization, theatricality, and exaggerated expression of emotion
7.is suggestible, i.e., easily influenced by others or circumstances
8.considers relationships to be more intimate than they actually are.
(http://uvtblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/sarah-palin-attention-whore.jpg)
Quote from: me on December 14, 2010, 03:51:22 AM
Now, if you had watched the show you would know her dad said he did set the sight before they left when she told him it was off and he took the gun and tested it after they got back to camp and found she was right. The shots did startle the animal and he jumped and looked around but they were out of sight. If you watched the show you would remember they were in the open, landscape wise, but hidden and in the distance so the animal saw nothing out of the ordinary. When she was handed the other rifle, which did kick unlike the first one which she preferred, she hit it in the kill zone first shot out of that rifle.
She is no more a media whore than anyone else who goes on camera or is in the public eye so quit with that already. And Troll, as far as her freezer goes you don't know but what they also have a larger one. We have a small one, a large one, and the one in our fridge so you can't judge a thing on the one you happened to see. I don't imagine anyone in Alaska has just one small freezer.
I'm sorry but I just don't understand the mentality of putting someone and their family down or calling them names just because they happen to disagree with them politically. It is childish and non productive and serves no purpose whatsoever.
You may be right of freezer space. I remember my grandmother had a refrigerator that set in the window. In the winter she kept her milk and meat in it. The back part sat outside and she has a sliding door on the in side.
Hell, in Alaska 80% of the time, all you have to do is set your meat outside where the animals can't get and it will be frozen. :biggrin: Right? :biggrin: :rolleyes: :razz:
Quote from: The Troll on December 14, 2010, 04:12:10 PM
. . .
Hell, in Alaska 80% of the time, all you have to do is set your meat outside where the animals can't get and it will be frozen. :biggrin: Right? :biggrin: :rolleyes: :razz:
I was waiting for that light bulb to light up! :biggrin:
Quote from: followsthewolf on December 14, 2010, 11:26:52 AM
Nah.
She appeals to every wanker who wants to hit it and every woman who knows she has about the same IQ as Palin but not the looks and has a fantasy that they want to be her. People with unfulfilled lives.
And, since there are so many of them who can't separate reality from fantasy, they will keep her around kind of as a "maybe I can fulfill that wish sometime."
You've completely described the demographic for Kate and Palin's show.
It was all for attention. If Kate really wanted to learn survival skills or hunting, then she wouldn't need to travel to Alaska to do it. She would ask someone a sight more qualified than Palin.
I've lost all respect for TLC.
Never had any respect for them in the first place! :no:
Quote from: Palehorse on December 14, 2010, 09:21:47 PM
Never had any respect for them in the first place! :no:
In the beginning it was an interesting channel b/c it appeared to be a channel designed for learning about new things. It's now a sell-out.
Kate wimped out. Hell, she wouldn't even eat the food and made them take her back to civilization and the kids were having a ball. Everyone, including Sarah, was gathering wood in the rain and Kate was under the canopy whining, "I hate this, I've got 19 layers of cloths on and I'm freezing and I'm hungry". She wouldn't eat anything they fixed. And yes, you can have a fire in the rain if it's large and hot enough which theirs was.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on December 14, 2010, 06:58:46 PM
You've completely described the demographic for Kate and Palin's show.
It was all for attention. If Kate really wanted to learn survival skills or hunting, then she wouldn't need to travel to Alaska to do it. She would ask someone a sight more qualified than Palin.
I've lost all respect for TLC.
You said that she did it to learn survival skills or some such. I was commenting on that. I didn't watch it. I think they're both stupid and I have better things to do.
In fact, I'm also boycotting TLC for putting her show on to begin with. Palin is selling herself as a nature lover, but yet she endorsed cruel and unnecessary wolf murder.
She was fine with learning the skills but not so fine when it came to trying to use them.
You might want to try living in Alaska and being threatened by a pack of wolves before you judge on that one. Sometimes those things are necessary it's not just killing for killing sake. Not only that they might have been getting so large in numbers they were a threat to the animals that are needed to survive to use for food.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on December 14, 2010, 10:54:23 PM
You said that she did it to learn survival skills or some such. I was commenting on that. I didn't watch it. I think they're both stupid and I have better things to do.
In fact, I'm also boycotting TLC for putting her show on to begin with. Palin is selling herself as a nature lover, but yet she endorsed cruel and unnecessary wolf murder.
You might want to do some research about the number of unprovoked attacks by wolves in North America.
Probably would surprise you that you have a better chance of being killed by a moose.
And when you've lived in Alaska and been threatened by a pack of wolves, you come talk to us; m'kay?
Quote from: me on December 14, 2010, 11:03:09 PM
She was fine with learning the skills but not so fine when it came to trying to use them.
You might want to try living in Alaska and being threatened by a pack of wolves before you judge on that one. Sometimes those things are necessary it's not just killing for killing sake. Not only that they might have been getting so large in numbers they were a threat to the animals that are needed to survive to use for food.
Since Palin's preferred method of hunting wovles is from an airplane, I doubt she is any danger from the wovles.
"they might have been getting so large in numbers they were a threat to the animals that are needed to survive to use for food. "
Natures way. When their food supply dwindles, the wolf population will naturally decline.
We upset that balance here in the east when we killed off all the wolves and cougars. Now the deer population has exploded to numbers never seen before.
Quote from: Olias on December 15, 2010, 09:41:28 AM
Since Palin's preferred method of hunting wovles is from an airplane, I doubt she is any danger from the wovles.
"they might have been getting so large in numbers they were a threat to the animals that are needed to survive to use for food. "
Natures way. When their food supply dwindles, the wolf population will naturally decline.
We upset that balance here in the east when we killed off all the wolves and cougars. Now the deer population has exploded to numbers never seen before.
Which, naturally, leads to the necessity of replacing the wolves and cougars at the top of the predator chain with human beings as the primary predator, else the deer population starts to overwhelm forests, grasslands, crops, etc. Even leads to large losses due to collisions between vehicles and deer.
Quote from: Palehorse on December 14, 2010, 04:01:23 PM
Doesn't all that just prove she is pimping herself out for the conservatives, and thusly validating that she is indeed an:
Attention Whore
A pervasive pattern of excessive emotionality and attention seeking, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
1.is uncomfortable in situations in which he or she is not the center of attention
2.interaction with others is often characterized by inappropriate sexually seductive or provocative behavior
3.displays rapidly shifting and shallow expression of emotions
4.consistently uses physical appearance to draw attention to self
5.has a style of speech that is excessively impressionistic and lacking in detail
6.shows self-dramatization, theatricality, and exaggerated expression of emotion
7.is suggestible, i.e., easily influenced by others or circumstances
8.considers relationships to be more intimate than they actually are.
(http://uvtblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/sarah-palin-attention-whore.jpg)
If dumb were a crime, Sarah Palin would be doin' time. :wink:
Quote from: followsthewolf on December 15, 2010, 11:57:18 AM
Which, naturally, leads to the necessity of replacing the wolves and cougars at the top of the predator chain with human beings as the primary predator, else the deer population starts to overwhelm forests, grasslands, crops, etc. Even leads to large losses due to collisions between vehicles and deer.
Though PETA won't admit it. The best thing that has happened to wild animals is licenced hunters and Hunting Organizations. like the NWTF, the National Wild Turkey Federation. Among many.
PETA doesn't do a damn thing for them but cry. :cry: and :cry: No money Just :cry: :cry:
Quote from: Locutus on December 15, 2010, 02:16:56 PM
If dumb were a crime, Sarah Palin would be doin' time. :wink:
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :yes: :yes: :yes:
Quote from: The Troll on December 15, 2010, 02:23:44 PM
Though PETA won't admit it. The best thing that has happened to wild animals is licenced hunters and Hunting Organizations. like the NWTF, the National Wild Turkey Federation. Among many.
PETA doesn't do a damn thing for them but cry. :cry: and :cry: No money Just :cry: :cry:
The way I see it, it's about respect. Respect of nature and respect of wildlife. Hunting isn't bad unless the respect isn't there. The native americans lived that way and tried to teach the settlers. It didn't work out so well. The concept of respect was replaced with avarice. Unfortunately, that trend continues today. Sarah Palin authorized increasing the number of wolf murders. No repect. She wasn't even aware that polar bears are in danger. No respect. She claims to love nature and wildlife and either she is blind or stupid, but either way, she's a liar.
I don't think hunting is bad, but there are rules and there has to be fairness.
For the record, I don't like PETA either. They've taken a good cause and turned it into a joke, because like so many good causes and groups such as this, it becomes all about the group and less about the cause. :smile:
Very succinct and apt summary of my attitude, Sandy. Well done.
And next up on the bash list will be Mit Romney since he seems to be the front runner for nomination. Will he be taking front row center as the new media whore, will his family be picked apart and put down, will the media portray him as an idiot, will they dig up dirt that doesn't exist and swear by it as the truth? Stay tuned for this and other breaking bash fests.
And I'm proud to report that almost a year after this thread was started, Sarah Palin still is fuckin' stupid. :biggrin:
Quote from: Locutus on December 16, 2010, 01:43:48 PM
And I'm proud to report that almost a year after this thread was started, Sarah Palin still is fuckin' stupid. :biggrin:
:food24: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Quote from: me on December 16, 2010, 12:51:34 PM
And next up on the bash list will be Mit Romney since he seems to be the front runner for nomination. Will he be taking front row center as the new media whore, will his family be picked apart and put down, will the media portray him as an idiot, will they dig up dirt that doesn't exist and swear by it as the truth? Stay tuned for this and other breaking bash fests.
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Nah.
He's a republican. Only republicans do all that stuff.
Uh, isn't this the wrong thread to try to convince someone of that?
Quote from: followsthewolf on December 16, 2010, 04:57:53 PM
Quote from: me on December 16, 2010, 12:51:34 PM
And next up on the bash list will be Mit Romney since he seems to be the front runner for nomination. Will he be taking front row center as the new media whore, will his family be picked apart and put down, will the media portray him as an idiot, will they dig up dirt that doesn't exist and swear by it as the truth? Stay tuned for this and other breaking bash fests.
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Nah.
He's a republican. Only republicans do all that stuff.
:sa: :sa: :sa: :sa:
Quote from: followsthewolf on December 16, 2010, 05:54:06 PM
:sa: :sa: :sa: :sa:
Let alone, the evidence to support the fact that Sarah Palin is fuckin' stupid is all over this thread. :yes:
It's not unsupported.
Good point :think:
Her star is falling. Her 15 minutes of fame as sure lasted too long.
"While making s'mores at one point during Sunday's episode, the former Alaska governor proclaims the marshmallow and chocolate treat is "in honor of Michelle Obama, who said the other day we should not have dessert."
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Quote from: Palehorse on December 20, 2010, 09:55:57 AM
"While making s'mores at one point during Sunday's episode, the former Alaska governor proclaims the marshmallow and chocolate treat is "in honor of Michelle Obama, who said the other day we should not have dessert."
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I watched that episode, and I know how all of you feel about her, but I have determined that she seems like a saint, compared to Kate Goslin, who is the epitome of a bitch.....that broad whined and complained and bitched the whole time she was on that episode, and her kids was fantastic.
They are both attention whores! What do you expect?
Quote from: Palehorse on December 20, 2010, 10:13:16 AM
They are both attention whores! What do you expect?
Kate Goslin is just a bitch....PERIOD......I have never ONCE saw her in any postive manner, she is ALWAYS bitchin and complaining....ALWAYS.
Palin, is with no argument grabbing all the attention she can, but she is NOT the bitchy, whinny, witch who makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up.
Quote from: Palehorse on December 20, 2010, 09:55:57 AM
"While making s'mores at one point during Sunday's episode, the former Alaska governor proclaims the marshmallow and chocolate treat is "in honor of Michelle Obama, who said the other day we should not have dessert."
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I LOVE Michelle Obama's campaign against childhood obesity! The US obesity rates are some of the highest worldwide. I heard a figure not long ago that I want to say is around 70%. Why not teach the children about healthy lifestyles? Obesity is unhealthy and costly. To twist this very worthwhile campaign makes Palin appear as if she's either thumbing her nose at a serious epidemic or she's simply to ignorant to understand the importance.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on December 20, 2010, 11:16:37 AM
I LOVE Michelle Obama's campaign against childhood obesity! The US obesity rates are some of the highest worldwide. I heard a figure not long ago that I want to say is around 70%. Why not teach the children about healthy lifestyles? Obesity is unhealthy and costly. To twist this very worthwhile campaign makes Palin appear as if she's either thumbing her nose at a serious epidemic or she's simply to ignorant to understand the importance.
I agree with on this to a point. What Michelle is doing is great and fine, and there are many children who have problems in this area. I just don't want our government stepping out of bounds and begin to enforce rules upon how we must eat. Making awareness of poor eating habits if okay, but I don't want them enforcing "taxes" on restaraunts who sells food that the government deems unhealthy. As far as Palin, she needs to choose her battles much better because this one is not one she needs to be quite on. imo. I give props to Michelle on this one.
Sandy Eggo posted:
"To twist this very worthwhile campaign makes Palin appear as if she's either thumbing her nose at a serious epidemic or she's simply to ignorant to understand the importance. "
All the above.
Too stupid to understand how classless her little dig at Michelle Obama was; she probably thought it was incredibly clever.
But, then again, she is so full of herself that she always thinks she is that clever.
Quote from: followsthewolf on December 20, 2010, 11:41:43 AM
Sandy Eggo posted:
But, then again, she is so full of herself that she always thinks she is that clever.
And anyone else who thinks she's that clever is even more clueless than she is.
Wait for it...
The trouble is that she plugged into so many fantasies and, in turn, got so much feedback, that she really thinks she is that intelligent.
A frightening delusion.
Creates mob following.
Damn it! I was sure we'd be provided with an example.
Quote from: Exterminator on December 21, 2010, 08:25:18 AM
Damn it! I was sure we'd be provided with an example.
Everybody should hurry and get in their kicks. I think ole Sarah star is falling very fast. Just like the sales on her last book.
http://www.youtube.com/v/9Ldp2PyXgGo
QuoteFormer Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee, doesn't have broad enough support in the party to make it all the way to the nomination, Murphy thinks.
In fact, he believes Palin has "almost a bigger constituency in the media than she does ultimately ... in the entire Republican primary process."
That said, Murphy thinks the other GOP contenders want to see her run — if only to keep the news media occupied for nine months or so. "What you really want to be is the candidate who emerges toward the end of 2011," he says.
In other words the GOP thinks she's only valuable at keeping the media attention off the real contenders. ;D
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2010/12/28/132409855/gop-consultant-smart-republican-opponents-hope-palin-runs?ft=1&f=1001&sc=tw&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on December 29, 2010, 05:22:31 PM
In other words the GOP thinks she's only valuable at keeping the media attention off the real contenders. ;D
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2010/12/28/132409855/gop-consultant-smart-republican-opponents-hope-palin-runs?ft=1&f=1001&sc=tw&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
It's how attention whores roll dammit! :biggrin:
Everybody wants to hang Vic. What about Sarah Palin flying 600 miles to the Artic Circle to shoot a half grown female Caribou. Then killing it after 6 shoots because the poor thing was a stupid as Sarah and didn't know she was trying to kill it.
Why didn't she get a corn fed Black Angus steer, tie it to a stake in her back yard and shoot it from her back porch. At least it would have tasted better. Killer Sarah.
Sarah the :jester: killer :rifle:
Quote from: The Troll on December 29, 2010, 06:58:54 PM
Everybody wants to hang Vic. What about Sarah Palin flying 600 miles to the Artic Circle to shoot a half grown female Caribou. Then killing it after 6 shoots because the poor thing was a stupid as Sarah and didn't know she was trying to kill it.
Why didn't she get a corn fed Black Angus steer, tie it to a stake in her back yard and shoot it from her back porch. At least it would have tasted better. Killer Sarah.
Sarah the :jester: killer :rifle:
Oh I hate her too. I'm an equal opportunity hater. :biggrin:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on December 29, 2010, 07:07:51 PM
Oh I hate her too. I'm an equal opportunity hater. :biggrin:
:biggrin: :tiphat:
Quote from: The Troll on December 29, 2010, 06:58:54 PM
Everybody wants to hang Vic. What about Sarah Palin flying 600 miles to the Artic Circle to shoot a half grown female Caribou. Then killing it after 6 shoots because the poor thing was a stupid as Sarah and didn't know she was trying to kill it.
Why didn't she get a corn fed Black Angus steer, tie it to a stake in her back yard and shoot it from her back porch. At least it would have tasted better. Killer Sarah.
Sarah the :jester: killer :rifle:
To phrase this like you would... You dumb ass they eat Caribou and that's why she shot it. I can tell you'd make it through one winter up there and be whinin' with whats her face to go back where it was warm and safe. I'd bet if you ever went hunting you probably took a camper with all the comforts of home including a TV.
You honestly think Palin lives like that?
That she shoots her own game on a regular basis for food?
Did you see how she held that rifle?
Are you nuts?
Quote from: me on December 30, 2010, 03:02:21 AM
To phrase this like you would... You dumb ass they eat Caribou and that's why she shot it. I can tell you'd make it through one winter up there and be whinin' with whats her face to go back where it was warm and safe. I'd bet if you ever went hunting you probably took a camper with all the comforts of home including a TV.
Why don't you read your post again and see just how stupid and a dumb ass you are. If you noticed where she went she had a nice new tent and probably a new Zero temperature sleeping bad. I didn't see it raining, snowing or the wind blowing. It sure looked like fun to me.
I have went hunting in a old leaky tent a half ass sleeping bag and it rained in the winter in Brown county and we didn't see one deer. So don't give me all of you bullshit about how I use to hunt. Those days are over for me. I eat good meat. I don't have to kill Bambi anymore or one of Santa's :hohoho: raindeer.
Ask any deer hunter and ask them if they could get a freezer of Angus beef for the same price of a freezer of deer or caribou. I'll bet they would take the beef.
Just keep kissing Sarah's ass, you're good at it. :thumbsup: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Quote from: The Troll on December 30, 2010, 02:59:09 PM
Why don't you read your post again and see just how stupid and a dumb ass you are. If you noticed where she went she had a nice new tent and probably a new Zero temperature sleeping bad. I didn't see it raining, snowing or the wind blowing. It sure looked like fun to me.
I have went hunting in a old leaky tent a half ass sleeping bag and it rained in the winter in Brown county and we didn't see one deer. So don't give me all of you bullshit about how I use to hunt. Those days are over for me. I eat good meat. I don't have to kill Bambi anymore or one of Santa's :hohoho: raindeer.
Ask any deer hunter and ask them if they could get a freezer of Angus beef for the same price of a freezer of deer or caribou. I'll bet they would take the beef.
Just keep kissing Sarah's ass, you're good at it. :thumbsup: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/deerladie/specialkind.jpg)
Quote from: me on December 31, 2010, 03:31:31 AM
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/deerladie/specialkind.jpg)
Damn, "ME" I didn't know you had such a big black nose. I'll bet it's cold too. WOOF, WOOF, WOOF :rotfl: Do you hunt or fetch. :rotfl: :rotfl: Or just run around smelling other dog's asses. :rotfl: :rotfl: :tiphat:
Did anyone see her latest?
Apparently she thought a schnauzer was a baby seal, shot the schnauzer from a helicopter and skinned it.
Seems that she couldn't tell the difference.
Then she made remarks at a book signing about "high-falutin' PETA types" who are not happy with clubbing baby seals to death, but that's how they roll in Alaska.
Somehow the outtake footage leaked out.
Certainly a person to admire, eh?
"Ya know, out in the tundra things happen pretty quick," said Palin. "When that snow's comin' down, a schnauzer and a seal are basically indistinguishable."
:no:
One of the cardinal rules of hunting is,"If you cannot clearly distinguish/identify your target, do NOT take the shot."
Guess they don't teach that in Alaska eh? :rolleyes:
Quote from: Palehorse on January 03, 2011, 01:01:49 PM
Guess they don't teach that in Alaska eh? :rolleyes:
Well it's like the loony bitch said; that's how they roll in Alaska.
Palin: 'Alaska' Dog-Clubbing Taken Out Of Context
Sarah Palin shows how they do it in Alaska when it comes to dog hunting from helicopters.
WASILLA, Alaska (CAP) - Former GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is saying leaked outtake footage from her TLC reality show Sarah Palin's Alaska has been taken "out of context," particularly the scene where she clubs and skins a miniature schnauzer, mistaking it for a baby seal.
"Ya know, out in the tundra things happen pretty quick," said Palin. "When that snow's comin' down, a schnauzer and a seal are basically indristinguishable."
Critics have pointed out that the "tundra" where Palin skinned the dog was actually the Bluff Park Farm in Knik-Fairview, and that before clubbing it she shot it from a helicopter using high-powered rifle with an infrared scope.
"Plus an old lady was walking it," pointed out People for the Ethical Treatment Of Animals spokesman Dan Sharon.
Sharon also said the excuse that Palin mistook the dog for a seal is "no excuse at all," since the practice of seal-clubbing has long been maligned as inhumane. The practice was targeted in a series of mid-'90s PETA magazine ads in which Pamela Anderson was shown clubbing a tiny Photoshopped version of Ted Nugent.
"Well, maybe beatin' a seal to death sounds unearthadox to those high falutin' big-city PETA elites, but out here in the wilderness, that's how we roll," said Palin while signing books at the Walmart Superstore on South Seward Meridian Parkway in Wasilla.
"Maybe the PETAs should spend more time gettin' all naked and beatin' up on Santa's fur cluffs," said Palin, possibly meaning "cuffs."
In other outtake footage, Palin is seen taking a rifle she purchased at a Wasilla gun shop and shooting out author Joe McGinniss' car headlights. Palin has criticized McGinnis for moving next door to her in Wasilla while researching a book on her.
"Well, maybe he shouldn'ta shined [his headlights] on my property," she's seen telling Wasilla Sheriff Karl Plastow as he confiscates the weapon. "The Russians mighta seen 'em and attacked us with their, waddayacallem, Moogs," possibly meaning MiGs.
There's also footage that appears to have been shot from another room where she's seen advising her daughter Bristol to whack her fellow Dancing With The Stars contestant Brandy in the knee with a crowbar.
"Ya don't think I wouldn'ta had your dad kneecap Biden if I'd got the chance?" Palin whispers to Bristol in the clip.
Confronted with the accusations, Palin insisted any plan to assault Brandy was "all Levi," then directed further questions to her attorney. Contacted at his GED class in Chickaloon, Alaska, Bristol Palin's former fiance Levi Johnston declined to comment, except to say that he hasn't spoken to any of the Palins since Bristol dumped him for the Old Spice Guy.
Palin, who has final cut approval for the show, says she will seek legal action against whoever leaked the footage. She also refused to allow the TLC camera crew to accompany her Sunday, when she and her husband Todd went on an expedition to club and skin Joe McGinnis.
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Hey Olias,
Should we expose the satire?
Quote from: followsthewolf on January 03, 2011, 02:12:34 PM
Hey Olias,
Should we expose the satire?
Nah .... let 'em expose it themselves. Might do 'em good to look up something once in a while instead of being spoon-fed their lies.
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Quote from: followsthewolf on January 03, 2011, 12:36:28 PM
Did anyone see her latest?
Apparently she thought a schnauzer was a baby seal, shot the schnauzer from a helicopter and skinned it.
Seems that she couldn't tell the difference.
Then she made remarks at a book signing about "high-falutin' PETA types" who are not happy with clubbing baby seals to death, but that's how they roll in Alaska.
Somehow the outtake footage leaked out.
Certainly a person to admire, eh?
I wonder how she'd feel if someone took a club to her azz? I'm sure they roll like that somewhere. :biggrin:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on January 03, 2011, 09:25:54 PM
I wonder how she'd feel if someone took a club to her azz? I'm sure they roll like that somewhere. :biggrin:
I started to post something like that but I thought .gov would come and get me. ;D
The new media asked 5 of the top Republican hopefulls for presidential nomination, were asked if they thought Sarah could win the nomination for the Republican Party all said YES. How's is this for a bunch of "Winners" :rotfl: :rotfl:
Caribou killer Sarah hasn't been mentioned on TV the last few day. I wonder what she going to pull to get back into news.
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So 1380 posts and SOME people haven't figured out that she really is very stupid. ;D
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on January 05, 2011, 07:50:25 PM
So 1380 posts and SOME people haven't figured out that she really is very stupid. ;D
:lipsrsealed2: :-X :food24:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on January 05, 2011, 07:50:25 PM
So 1380 posts and SOME people haven't figured out that she really is very stupid. ;D
:clap: :clap: :clap: :food4:
"Palin says it is 'reprehensible' to blame rhetoric for the tragedy."
Well, of course you would, you stupid bitch, because you just don't get it.
Quote from: Exterminator on January 12, 2011, 10:35:16 AM
"Palin says it is 'reprehensible' to blame rhetoric for the tragedy."
Well, of course you would, you stupid bitch, because you just don't get it.
Josef Goebbels, Hitler's mouth piece spouted so much hate about the Jews, Slavs, Gypsies and everybody else that the Germans thought they were better than, that the Germans killed Millions of them.
But just before the Russians took over Berlin, he poisoned his family, 4 pretty little girs, wife and blew his brains out. Hate talk really works and Palin knows it works, but also the Republicans know it. That why they use it
Just think, Rush Limbaugh talks this way three hours a day, five days a week which is fifteen 15 hours of hate on every AM Radio station in America. And any sane person would think that wouldn't hurt, you got to be kidding me. We have got to stop this poison.
Quote from: Exterminator on January 12, 2011, 10:35:16 AM
"Palin says it is 'reprehensible' to blame rhetoric for the tragedy."
Well, of course you would, you stupid bitch, because you just don't get it.
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Hum, speaking about spouting hatred...what is this going on against Palin???? If someone shoots her will it be the lamestream media's fault for spouting all this garbage about her? Strange how it only works one way with this type of thing. No one has mentioned what Obama said about getting together with the Republicans when he said "If they bring knives we'll bring guns". Or that one congressman whose name escapes me at the moment that said he would kill his Republican opponent at the polls. Noooooo, not one word about that. But then the dems are perfect and everyone knew that was just a figure of speech... :rolleyes:
Quote from: The Troll on January 12, 2011, 12:21:28 PM
Josef Goebbels, Hitler's mouth piece spouted so much hate about the Jews, Slavs, Gypsies and everybody else that the Germans thought they were better than, that the Germans killed Millions of them.
But just before the Russians took over Berlin, he poisoned his family, 4 pretty little girs, wife and blew his brains out. Hate talk really works and Palin knows it works, but also the Republicans know it. That why they use it
Just think, Rush Limbaugh talks this way three hours a day, five days a week which is fifteen 15 hours of hate on every AM Radio station in America. And any sane person would think that wouldn't hurt, you got to be kidding me. We have got to stop this poison.
Quote from: me on January 12, 2011, 02:21:13 PM
Hum, speaking about spouting hatred...what is this going on against Palin???? If someone shoots her will it be the lamestream media's fault for spouting all this garbage about her? Strange how it only works one way with this type of thing. No one has mentioned what Obama said about getting together with the Republicans when he said "If they bring knives we'll bring guns". Or that one congressman whose name escapes me at the moment that said he would kill his Republican opponent at the polls. Noooooo, not one word about that. But then the dems are perfect and everyone knew that was just a figure of speech... :rolleyes:
That's a steaming pile of horse manure! I posted about the comment of the POTUS and the congress member yesterday with an article I posted and linked to. That was one comment though, and pales in comparison to the endless stream of fear mongering and propaganda being spread by Palin and her ilk.
She is courting public attention too, so she's getting it. . .
She and her ilk believe they can say whatever they like, in any manner they like, and be somehow magically absolved of responsibility for the actions their statements and images incite?
With her little acting job this morning she has now raised the ire of the Jewish community. . .
And in case you missed it, here it is again:
Quote from: Palehorse on January 12, 2011, 12:07:01 AM
This summarizes my feelings on the subject of the AZ incident quite nicely! :yes: 8)
http://www.winningprogressive.org/tag/sarah-palin
Thoughts on the Arizona Shooting
Monday, January 10th, 2011
Along with most everyone else in the country, we here at Winning Progressive have been glued to the news about the horrible shooting in Tucson, Arizona that led to the death of federal judge John Roll, a nine year old girl, and four adults, and that has left Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ) in critical condition. We have been extremely saddened the entire weekend by the shootings, our thoughts go out to the victims and their families, and we hope that Rep. Giffords and the other people who were injured will continue recovering.
We have had a number of thoughts about the incident, a few of which we will share here:
* Honor the Heroes – The word "hero" is often overused in our society, as many people are labelled heroes simply for going through a hard event or illness that they had no choice but to experience. But there are also many heroes – i.e., people who selflessly choose to put themselves in harms way in order to help others – who our society too often overlooks. At least six people were heroes in Tucson on Sunday, and we should recognize them for their heroic actions.
* The first is Daniel Hernandez, a 20-year-old intern for Rep. Giffords who, upon hearing gunshots, ran toward the Congresswoman to make sure she was okay. Mr. Hernandez is credited with hopefully saving Rep. Giffords' life, as he worked to stem her bleeding and to make sure she could still breathe despite all of the blood until paramedics could arrive.
* The second is Dorwan Stoddard who, unfortunately, did not survive the shooting. Upon hearing gunfire, he immediately shielded his wife, who survived as a result.
* The other four are Patricia Maisch, Bill Badger, Roger Salzgeber, and Joseph Zamudio, who tackled and subdued Loughner while he was trying to reload his gun. Maisch, who had just watched the person in line in front of her get shot twice, managed to keep Loughner from getting a second ammunition clip from out of his pocket.
* Tone Down the Rhetoric: As has been widely pointed out, Sunday's killings occurred in an atmosphere of increasingly violent political rhetoric over the past two years. More and more, folks in political campaigns have been talking about being "armed and dangerous," "targeting enemies," "reloading," "eliminating" the opposition, using "Second Amendment remedies," and other language that is highly problematic for at least two reasons.
First, it can push unstable people over the edge. Certainly, the vast majority of people who hear violent rhetoric or see violent imagery targeted at a politician are not going to act upon it. However, someone who is already mentally unstable may simply snap after receiving a steady diet of such rhetoric. We don't know yet exactly what motivated Jared Loughner to commit such atrocities in Tucson, but violent political rhetoric is bound to make events like those this past Sunday more likely.
Second, violent rhetoric and imagery are inimical to democratic government. A fundamental point of democratic government is to establish the societal structures needed to settle disputes peacefully, rather than having disagreements devolve into violence. Basing our political dialogue on violence undermines those structures and makes it harder for a democratic system to deliver on its promise of a more peaceful society.
* Don't Buy Into the Idea of False Equivalency: There is no doubt that both sides have used rhetoric that went over the line from time to time. For example, President Obama's joking statement at a 2008 fundraiser in Philadelphia about Democrats bringing a gun to a knife fight was incredibly stupid and should have been withdrawn. All of us need to work on toning down the rhetoric and learn to take a deep breath before responding in anger to people of different political persuasions.
But there are some critical differences between a handful of comments that should not have been made by Democrats, and the violent rhetoric that has made up a growing portion of right wing political strategy over the past few years. In particular, the violent rhetoric on the right has been especially egregious and dangerous for three reasons.
First, such rhetoric has accompanied a deliberate effort by many conservatives to paint President Obama and the Democrats who support him as dangerous outsiders who are un-American. Too many conservatives have insinuated that President Obama is a Kenyan, Muslim Manchurian candidate who is allegedly a Socialist, Nazi, and Fascist all at the same time. In short, too many conservatives haven't just strenuously objected to President Obama's policies – they have treated him and his policies as those belonging to an enemy of our nation.
Second, the violent rhetoric from some conservatives has often been targeted at specific politicians, like Rep. Giffords, Nancy Pelosi, or Harry Reid. Obviously, such targeted vitriol is much more dangerous than statements that are just aimed at the opposing political party in general.
Third, the violent rhetoric is coming not just from some lone crazies or fringe characters on the far right who have little to do with the Republican party. Instead, major elected officials and leaders in the Republican party have been echoing such violent rhetoric or, at least accepting it with a wink and a nod. For example, here is a slide from a power point presentation that Rep. Joe Barton (R-TX) included a recent presentation he gave urging his fellow Republicans to make him chair of a committee in Congress:
This is not the rhetoric that a member of either political party should be using about the President of the United States.
* Sarah Palin is a Truely Reprehensible Person: Winning Progressive has a rule against mentioning Sarah Palin at this blog because we find her to be an illegitimate know-nothing who gets far too much coverage from the conservative media and from fellow progressives. We are briefly suspending that rule, however, because we are so disgusted by how Ms. Palin has responded to the shooting of Rep. Giffords and the other victims in Tucson that we feel we must comment.
Ms. Palin's violent rhetoric and imagery - such as map with 20 Democratic congressional districts, including Rep. Giffords', with gunsights over them - is well known. What amazes us is the pitifulness of Ms. Palin's response to the killings in Arizona. In the 36 hours so far since the shooting, Ms. Palin has only managed to issue a two sentence statement on her Facebook page, in which she sent her "sincere condolences" and prayers to the victims of the "tragic" shootings. Ms. Palin did not disavow the shooter or the shooting, call for a toning down of violent political rhetoric, or express any regret for the violent rhetoric she had engaged in against Rep. Giffords and other Democrats. It is truly a disgusting and repulsive performance by Ms. Palin.
* * * * * *
In summary, we certainly agree that conservatives cannot be directly blamed for the horrendous acts that Jared Lee Loughner committed on Sunday. But there can be little reasonable dispute that creating an atmosphere of violent rhetoric aimed at one side of a political debate makes it far more likely that some unhinged individual is going to act on such rhetoric in ways that have horrible consequences. It would be good for us all to keep that in mind and remember that, while vigorous debate is critical to a well-functioning democracy, violent rhetoric is inimical to it.
There is not one shred of evidence that links anything Palin said or did with this nut job. It is pure speculation and garbage. Who was responsible for Bobby Kennedy's shooting? Was that Palin too? Oh no wait, that was probably Bush's fault. :rolleyes:
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/235504/SARAH-PALIN-TARGET-LIST.jpg)
Quote from: me on January 12, 2011, 02:57:22 PM
There is not one shred of evidence that links anything Palin said or did with this nut job. It is pure speculation and garbage. Who was responsible for Bobby Kennedy's shooting? Was that Palin too? Oh no wait, that was probably Bush's fault. :rolleyes:
Guess we can just go ahead and delete the following terms from the dictionary and law books then! :rolleyes:
libel |ˈlībəl|
noun
1 Law a published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation; a written defamation. Compare with slander .
• the action or crime of publishing such a statement : a councilor who sued two national newspapers for libel | [as adj. ] a libel action.
• a false and malicious statement about a person.
• a thing or circumstance that brings undeserved discredit on a person by misrepresentation.
2 (in admiralty and ecclesiastical law) a plaintiff's written declaration.
verb ( -beled , -beling ; Brit. -belled, -belling) [ trans. ]
1 Law defame (someone) by publishing a libel : she alleged the magazine had libeled her.
• make a false and malicious statement about.
See note at malign .
2 (in admiralty and ecclesiastical law) bring a suit against (someone).
DERIVATIVES
libeler noun
ORIGIN Middle English (in the general sense [a document, a written statement] ): via Old French from Latin libellus, diminutive of liber 'book.'
Funny how the party preaching " personal responsibility and morality" fails to understand how it applies to them as well! :rolleyes:
Words inspire, incite, and can educate when properly utilized. "The pen is mightier than the sword", someone once said.
Quote from: me on January 12, 2011, 02:21:13 PM
Hum, speaking about spouting hatred...what is this going on against Palin???? If someone shoots her will it be the lamestream media's fault for spouting all this garbage about her? Strange how it only works one way with this type of thing. No one has mentioned what Obama said about getting together with the Republicans when he said "If they bring knives we'll bring guns". Or that one congressman whose name escapes me at the moment that said he would kill his Republican opponent at the polls. Noooooo, not one word about that. But then the dems are perfect and everyone knew that was just a figure of speech... :rolleyes:
Well, you haven't heard one Democrat talk about killing her, shooting her. lock and loading on her and putting a sniper's cross hairs on her. Or using her picture for target practice.
This isn't one you're going to win. Hate speech by the Republicans, one of their hate and fear tools.
The Daily Kos put a target over her district too and I have yet to hear anyone say anything about that. Of course except for a screen shots that were taken before it was scrubbed from the internet no one remembers that or cares to bring it up. Nothing they have found connected this to Palin in any way. I say again.....Who incited the person who killed Bobby Kennedy and others before and since him? Was it Palin, Bush, political rhetoric? No, they were nut jobs just like this guy period.
Quote from: me on January 12, 2011, 05:15:20 PM
The Daily Kos put a target over her district too and I have yet to hear anyone say anything about that. Of course except for a screen shots that were taken before it was scrubbed from the internet no one remembers that or cares to bring it up. Nothing they have found connected this to Palin in any way. I say again.....Who incited the person who killed Bobby Kennedy and others before and since him? Was it Palin, Bush, political rhetoric? No, they were nut jobs just like this guy period.
When she assumed the high profile position as "Queen" of the Tea Party, she assumed responsibility for its actions as a whole, as well as her own. When she spoke the words of political hatred and engaged in rhetoric that could be construed as desiring to incite someone to commit unreasonable acts of violence, she assumed responsibility for her words and actions, as well as those who parroted them.
She doesn't get diplomatic immunity for any of it. She isn't a diplomat and she sure as hell is not what she portrays herself to be by any stretch of the imagination that is this side of sane. She and a whole boatload of her ilk are equally responsible for whatever role their words and actions may have played in inciting this disturbed individual to do what he did; and for those they may incite to do them moving forward. And while there are a very small number of democrats who have done very similar things, by far and away the most prolific purveyors of this propaganda are the Tea Party, republicans, and their leadership.
Leadership has its privileges, but they come with
responsibilities. Something Queen Palin knows a lot about surrounding running from and denying! The prudent thing to do in her situation is to admit to her ill advised actions and words to this point, and to initiate and call for a change of course. Instead, she attempts to deflect any possibility of those same actions and words playing any sort of role in influencing a disturbed individual to acts of violence; acts those same actions and words clearly could be interpreted to be supporting!
Anyone else find it ironic that she uses an antisemitic term ( blood libel) to describe her perspective on the whole situation! :mad:
PH posted:
"Anyone else find it ironic that she uses an antisemitic term ( blood libel) to describe her perspective on the whole situation!"
Absolutely!!
That is an incredibly strange choice of words. It has a very narrow meaning and application.
WTF!!!!
Quote from: followsthewolf on January 12, 2011, 06:02:53 PM
PH posted:
"Anyone else find it ironic that she uses an antisemitic term ( blood libel) to describe her perspective on the whole situation!"
Absolutely!!
That is an incredibly strange choice of words. It has a very narrow meaning and application.
WTF!!!!
WTF indeed! Everytime she opens her mouth she spews more and more hatred!
For those unfamiliar with the term, here's the generally, and worldwide, understood definition:
Blood libel refers to a false accusation or claim that religious minorities, in European contexts almost always Jews, murder children to use their blood in certain aspects of their religious rituals and holidays. Historically, these claims have–alongside those of well poisoning and host desecration–been a major theme in European persecution of Jews.
The libels typically allege that Jews require human blood for the baking of matzos for Passover. The accusations often assert that the blood of Christian children is especially coveted, and historically blood libel claims have often been made to account for otherwise unexplained deaths of children. In some cases, the alleged victim of human sacrifice has become venerated as a martyr, a holy figure around whom a martyr cult might arise. A few of these have been even canonized as saints, like Gavriil Belostoksky.
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/12/palins-use-of-blood-libel-invokes-ancient-myth-about-jews/?hpt=T1 (http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/12/palins-use-of-blood-libel-invokes-ancient-myth-about-jews/?hpt=T1)
Now she's being criticized by the Anti-Defamation League for use of the term!
What an ignorant piece of work she is! :yes: :yes: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Quote from: me on January 12, 2011, 05:15:20 PM
The Daily Kos put a target over her district too and I have yet to hear anyone say anything about that. Of course except for a screen shots that were taken before it was scrubbed from the internet no one remembers that or cares to bring it up. Nothing they have found connected this to Palin in any way. I say again.....Who incited the person who killed Bobby Kennedy and others before and since him? Was it Palin, Bush, political rhetoric? No, they were nut jobs just like this guy period.
Because you read the Daily Cos, you know this to be fact, correct?
These people, nuts or not, were incited by something. That much is obvious. Just because the question wasn't asked, doesn't mean the answer doesn't apply.
Quote from: Palehorse on January 12, 2011, 06:13:57 PM
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/12/palins-use-of-blood-libel-invokes-ancient-myth-about-jews/?hpt=T1 (http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/12/palins-use-of-blood-libel-invokes-ancient-myth-about-jews/?hpt=T1)
Now she's being criticized by the Anti-Defamation League for use of the term!
What an ignorant piece of work she is! :yes: :yes: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
She is. :yes: I'm still reeling over the fact that she had the nerve to say that others who've been calling her on her hate propaganda are "irresponsible".
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on January 12, 2011, 06:20:14 PM
She is. :yes: I'm still reeling over the fact that she had the nerve to say that others who've been calling her on her hate propaganda are "irresponsible".
The woman has absolutely NO credibility whatsoever! :mad:
Hell, Rick Sanchez lost his job as a CNN anchor over a statement far less insulting than the one she made today!
Those of you who holler the loudest about facts and proof really need to come up with something other than opinion and speculation before accusing. Ya'll are really beginning to sound like a lynch mob ya know and yer doin' it without proof of guilt or even a remote tie in of Palin to this wack nut. Hell, it even meets the criteria of being directed toward a particular person. I guess proof doesn't matter in some cases though huh? Wonder if all this hate speech will drive Troll, who seems a bit unstable, to go shoot Palin? Oh wait, no that would be my defending of her that would do that since differing opinions are wrong from the dems point of view and he would be doing it to protect society from a bad influence.
The scariest part of all of this is that there are still those who persist in defending her. . . :spooked: :spooked: :spooked:
Her "utilization" (FTW :biggrin:) of the antisemitic term in her statement today is a striking red flag that could be interpreted as evidence of the antisemitism that many have suspected to be a motivating factor behind the proliferation of the fear mongering and hatred within the Tea Party's messages. It certainly will be interpreted by those holding such an unacceptable worldview as a nod and a wink to them. :yes:
Give me a break.....This is getting beyond stupid. :rolleyes:
Quote from: me on January 12, 2011, 06:39:20 PM
Those of you who holler the loudest about facts and proof really need to come up with something other than opinion and speculation before accusing. Ya'll are really beginning to sound like a lynch mob ya know and yer doin' it without proof of guilt or even a remote tie in of Palin to this wack nut. Hell, it even meets the criteria of being directed toward a particular person. I guess proof doesn't matter in some cases though huh? Wonder if all this hate speech will drive Troll, who seems a bit unstable, to go shoot Palin? Oh wait, no that would be my defending of her that would do that since differing opinions are wrong from the dems point of view and he would be doing it to protect society from a bad influence.
It is not an unreasonable connection to make to anyone who has the ability to critically review the information out there "me".
If you sit in a theatre and yell fire, and others react to that act by stampeding to the exits and in the process others are killed or injured, who is at fault? The person who yelled fire, or the people who emotionally reacted despite the absence of physical evidence to support the validity of the statement? The fact is the person who falsely yelled the word would be charged with inciting a riot at minimum, and possibly murder or manslaughter.
It is the very same theory where this situation is concerned. Palin and her ilk have been running about spewing messages of "don't retreat-reload", calling for a code red, displaying antisemitic images directed toward political parties, office holders, and candidates, placing cross hairs on images and maps, etc., with no expectation of potentially inciting others toward initiatives that would fulfill those messages? (Reasonable or unreasonable individuals). And while you may argue that the party was not responsible for the signs on public display at their rallies, I would argue that the fact that they were allowed to be displayed without any public statement of condemnation of them, and no physical efforts being expended toward removal of them, is akin to silent agreement with the messages they imparted and their intent. Any reasonable person would make this assumption, and most have.
The allegations of antisemitism, fear mongering, and efforts/messages intended to incite violence are nothing new to the Tea Party nor the republican party. They have been out there since well before this incident, and have been profliferated by the republicans and Tea Party since before the last presidential election took place.
I'll tell you what is irresponsible, and that is the fact that the republican and Tea Parties refuse to acknowledge even the remote possibility that they have a role within what transpired in Tucson Arizona, and their apparent intention to continue on the path they have been trampling for over 2 years now!
When another one of these whacknuts comes out of the sewers and does something similar, the jig is up boys and girls. And any reasonable American who is possession of a sane mind, will call for those responsible for inciting these incidents to be held accountable for their actions!
Hope ya'll are listening, or listened to, President Obama and are ready to stop with this stupid shit now.
Quote from: me on January 12, 2011, 09:09:19 PM
Hope ya'll are listening, or listened to, President Obama and are ready to stop with this stupid shit now.
Is that your way of FINALLY admitting the man has said/done something right, and that you fully agree with him? :spooked:
Quote from: Palehorse on January 12, 2011, 09:16:49 PM
Is that your way of FINALLY admitting the man has said/done something right, and that you fully agree with him? :spooked:
He finally did something on his own and in his own way and made perfect sense. As I have been trying to say all along but ya'll were too busy with the garbage being spewed on the lamestream media, it has been congress I've been mostly disagreeing with. No, I did not vote for him, no, I do not agree with all of his policies, but that doesn't make me a racist or a hate monger. Now do you understand?
The big joke is about over. Sarah Palin time is coming and it's come fast. I sure hope she has banked some money back. If she doesn't she will be using food stamps and eating moose, caribou and maybe some bear, maybe a little salmon.
Quote from: The Troll on January 12, 2011, 09:36:43 PM
The big joke is about over. Sarah Palin time is coming and it's come fast. I sure hope she has banked some money back. If she doesn't she will be using food stamps and eating moose, caribou and maybe some bear, maybe a little salmon.
And if the state congresses get their way, she'll have to take a drug test periodically to get her food stamps. . .
Quote from: me on January 12, 2011, 09:20:59 PM
He finally did something on his own and in his own way and made perfect sense. As I have been trying to say all along but ya'll were too busy with the garbage being spewed on the lamestream media, it has been congress I've been mostly disagreeing with. No, I did not vote for him, no, I do not agree with all of his policies, but that doesn't make me a racist or a hate monger. Now do you understand?
No. . . you must perform 25 acts of contrition, say five hail Obamas, and pray the rosary each night for ninety days. Then we MIGHT believe you. . .
Quote from: me on January 12, 2011, 09:09:19 PM
Hope ya'll are listening, or listened to, President Obama and are ready to stop with this stupid shit now.
He has more class than Palin and co and didn't want to ruin the memorial service with more of the same. So get over yourself, Palin and ilk share the blame.
Business as usual I see.
Yes me, Sarah Palin is STILL stupid! :yes: :yes: :yes:
Quote from: Palehorse on January 12, 2011, 10:21:16 PM
Yes me, Sarah Palin is STILL stupid! :yes: :yes: :yes:
It took 95 pages of this thread to figure that out?!?!??? :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
That was my premise when I started this thread. :yes: :biggrin:
Sarah's new song.
The party is over
it's time to call it a day
No matter how you pretend
you knew it would end this way
It's time to wind up the masquerade
Just make up your mind
The piper must be paid
THE PARTY IS OVER
Nat King Cole song The Party over.
There are more words that fill the bill of Sarah.
You know what galls me about Palin and people like her? The fact that they make statements like, "The majority of the American people want..."
First, I seriously doubt they know or care what the "majority" of the American people want. I don't doubt that they believe that they do. It must be comforting to believe that a "majority" of the American people think...just. Like. You. But not very realistic. At anyrate, that brings me to my second point. Even if we pretend that someone is completely aware of what a "majority" of the American people want, why would anyone assume that what the American people want is going to actually be good for the country as a whole?
It's not about giving us what we want. It's about doing what's best whether we like it or not. That's leadership.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on January 13, 2011, 06:56:59 PM
You know what galls me about Palin and people like her? The fact that they make statements like, "The majority of the American people want..."
First, I seriously doubt they know or care what the "majority" of the American people want. I don't doubt that they believe that they do. It must be comforting to believe that a "majority" of the American people think...just. Like. You. But not very realistic. At anyrate, that brings me to my second point. Even if we pretend that someone is completely aware of what a "majority" of the American people want, why would anyone assume that what the American people want is going to actually be good for the country as a whole?
It's not about giving us what we want. It's about doing what's best whether we like it or not. That's leadership.
Oh, you mean we're too stupid to know what's good or not like the people in Germany were or Russia, Venezuela, and China so the government has to tell us an take care of us. Good idea.... :rolleyes:
Quote from: me on January 13, 2011, 07:08:18 PM
Oh, you mean we're too stupid to know what's good or not like the people in Germany were or Russia, Venezuela, and China so the government has to tell us an take care of us. Good idea.... :rolleyes:
So much for your "goodwill" eh? :rolleyes:
Quote from: Palehorse on January 13, 2011, 07:11:31 PM
So much for your "goodwill" eh? :rolleyes:
Just a question not putting anyone down or name calling and it certainly wasn't inflammatory.
Quote from: me on January 13, 2011, 07:08:18 PM
Oh, you mean we're too stupid to know what's good or not.
That's not what I meant, but since you missed the point...
Yes ;D
Quote from: me on January 13, 2011, 07:17:06 PM
Just a question not putting anyone down or name calling and it certainly wasn't inflammatory.
So "stupid" is not a put down or an example of name calling? Okay stupid!
Quote from: Palehorse on January 13, 2011, 07:48:26 PM
So "stupid" is not a put down or an example of name calling? Okay stupid!
Ah, but it wasn't directed at anyone in particular and I was not saying anyone was it was a question asked of someone not a statement. Asking if you think someone is stupid is not calling someone stupid.
Quote from: me on January 14, 2011, 02:44:27 AM
Ah, but it wasn't directed at anyone in particular and I was not saying anyone was it was a question asked of someone not a statement. Asking if you think someone is stupid is not calling someone stupid.
That's just stupid!
Yeah, what's wrong with calling a stupid person, stupid. We had one but they flew the coop. Just plain stupid. Now I can't have any stupid fun. :biggrin:
Stupendously stupid!
Hey, good people, have you seen old Sarah of the "news shows" Shawn Hannity. Talk about a deer in the head lights of a speeding car.
She totally lost trying to defend the guns, sniper scopes and lock and load and reload. It is absolutely great. :rotfl: :rotfl:
Well, well, well old Sarah can't fuck up everything. She must not be putting out on the home front.
Looks like "super stud" Todd has got out and got a little strange nookie and done a little unloading. Now this is something Sarah might want to lock and load, reload and sight in on her snipe scope. :rifle: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Quote from: The Troll on January 21, 2011, 11:14:08 AM
Well, well, well old Sarah can't fuck up everything. She must not be putting out on the home front.
Looks like "super stud" Todd has got out and got a little strange nookie and done a little unloading. Now this is something Sarah might want to lock and load, reload and sight in on her snipe scope. :rifle: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
What the hell are you talking about?
Quote from: me on January 21, 2011, 01:53:59 PM
What the hell are you talking about?
Got to keep up with the news, "ME". Its has been reported that Tod Palin has had a sexual affair with his massage therapist Sharliy Tripp. It must be sore muscles from carrying the baby and "fishing". It's on the news, if it is true I don't know. But where you see smoke there is usually fire. :rotfl: :super: Stud Palin.
Quote from: The Troll on January 21, 2011, 02:16:06 PM
Got to keep up with the news, "ME". Its has been reported that Tod Palin has had a sexual affair with his massage therapist Sharliy Tripp. It must be sore muscles from carrying the baby and "fishing". It's on the news, if it is true I don't know. But where you see smoke there is usually fire. :rotfl: :super: Stud Palin.
Reported by who one of those famous anonymous sources?
Quote from: me on January 21, 2011, 03:04:48 PM
Reported by who one of those famous anonymous sources?
I figured you for the type that would read this regularly.
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/70033 (http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/70033)
Quote from: me on January 21, 2011, 03:04:48 PM
Reported by who one of those famous anonymous sources?
I say he guilty and you say he's not. Want to put $50 on it. With ole Sarah running around so much, he's had a lot of time to play around. When the cat is gone the mouse will play. :rotfl: Massage by a convicted prostitute, WOW. Maybe they read passages out of the Bible. :rotfl: It sure looks bad to me. :rotfl: Maybe you're so sure, Hell let's make it a $100. :wink: :smile: :kiss: :razz:
Quote from: Olias on January 21, 2011, 03:39:37 PM
I figured you for the type that would read this regularly.
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/70033 (http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/70033)
:biggrin:
Give 'em a break, that's more creditable than the World Nut Daily or Fox Nation. ;D
Quote from: The Troll on January 21, 2011, 02:16:06 PM
Got to keep up with the news, "ME". Its has been reported that Tod Palin has had a sexual affair with his massage therapist Sharliy Tripp. It must be sore muscles from carrying the baby and "fishing". It's on the news, if it is true I don't know. But where you see smoke there is usually fire. :rotfl: :super: Stud Palin.
It's weird, but it bothers me that her last name is Tripp and his grandson's name is Tripp.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on January 21, 2011, 04:53:33 PM
It's weird, but it bothers me that her last name is Tripp and his grandson's name is Tripp.
Why, many people give their children the mother or grandmother's maiden name, expecially if there are no sons to carry on the family name.
Quote from: Olias on January 21, 2011, 03:39:37 PM
I figured you for the type that would read this regularly.
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/70033 (http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/70033)
Never did read that rag. :razz:
Quote from: The Troll on January 21, 2011, 04:24:56 PM
I say he guilty and you say he's not. Want to put $50 on it. With ole Sarah running around so much, he's had a lot of time to play around. When the cat is gone the mouse will play. :rotfl: Massage by a convicted prostitute, WOW. Maybe they read passages out of the Bible. :rotfl: It sure looks bad to me. :rotfl: Maybe you're so sure, Hell let's make it a $100. :wink: :smile: :kiss: :razz:
So you get your facts from the National Enquirer huh....Seems like a lot of people are doing that lately, well either there or the Huffington Post which is just as bad.
http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2011/01/20/2011-01-20_todd_palin_sarah_palins_husband_in_sex_scandal_with_massage_therapist_shailey_tr.html (http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2011/01/20/2011-01-20_todd_palin_sarah_palins_husband_in_sex_scandal_with_massage_therapist_shailey_tr.html)
Well, the NY Daily News is quoting the Enquirer if that means anything to you. . .
Yep, gossip spreads like wildfire. When someone credible comes out with it and Palin makes a statement then and only then should it be taken as true.
Quote from: Anne on January 21, 2011, 06:59:40 PM
Why, many people give their children the mother or grandmother's maiden name, expecially if there are no sons to carry on the family name.
Because he's having an affair with her. :biggrin: he could have found someone w/a different last name. :biggrin:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on January 21, 2011, 04:46:50 PM
:biggrin:
Give 'em a break, that's more creditable than the World Nut Daily or Fox Nation. ;D
I guess that the story they did in May of last year on Obama having an affair with Vera Baker in '04' must be true then huh? I mean if they're so credible it must be true.
Quote from: me on January 21, 2011, 10:12:05 PM
I guess that the story they did in May of last year on Obama having an affair with Vera Baker in '04' must be true then huh? I mean if they're so credible it must be true.
Probably as credible as this one is!
Quote from: me on January 21, 2011, 07:31:11 PM
So you get your facts from the National Enquirer huh....Seems like a lot of people are doing that lately, well either there or the Huffington Post which is just as bad.
Well then you won't have any problem putting up the $100 on the bet he didn't do it. :dam: I just can't get anyone to bet with me. But then again every time I put up money I would have won. Like Harry Reid winning and the witch :witch: loosing.
Quote from: me on January 21, 2011, 10:12:05 PM
I guess that the story they did in May of last year on Obama having an affair with Vera Baker in '04' must be true then huh? I mean if they're so credible it must be true.
I didn't say that it's creditable.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on January 21, 2011, 11:09:10 PM
I didn't say that it's creditable.
You know it isn't the truth. The Republican Dirty Tricks Team would have been able to have nailed him. Probably in fact, they started the rumor. Just another lie from the Republican Party. How can anyone be so stupid to believe a word that comes out of their mouths. :yes:
Quote from: me on January 21, 2011, 10:12:05 PM
I guess that the story they did in May of last year on Obama having an affair with Vera Baker in '04' must be true then huh? I mean if they're so credible it must be true.
And I guess you are either lying or you have an advanced case of Alzheimer's. Less then three hours earlier you claimed ...
Quote from: me on January 21, 2011, 07:28:52 PM
Never did read that rag. :razz:
Quote from: The Troll on January 22, 2011, 08:56:15 AM
You know it isn't the truth. The Republican Dirty Tricks Team would have been able to have nailed him. Probably in fact, they started the rumor. Just another lie from the Republican Party. How can anyone be so stupid to believe a word that comes out of their mouths. :yes:
Good question. :yes:
Quote from: Olias on January 22, 2011, 10:13:18 AM
And I guess you are either lying or you have an advanced case of Alzheimer's. Less then three hours earlier you claimed ...
Good catch! :biggrin:
Quote from: Olias on January 22, 2011, 10:13:18 AM
And I guess you are either lying or you have an advanced case of Alzheimer's. Less then three hours earlier you claimed ...
Don't just happened to remember seeing the headline. I mean those rags are only at every grocery store check out in town.
Quote from: me on January 22, 2011, 10:57:23 AM
Don't just happened to remember seeing the headline. I mean those rags are only at every grocery store check out in town.
You know "ME" I would believe one of these "Rags" before I would believe you're favorite teacher and leader, Glen Beck. :rotfl: :rotfl:
Weren't you the one who said, "I watch him every day.: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: You're just killing me, just keep it up, since I don't have you're twin to pick on. :rotfl: :kiss: Baby Cake. :tiphat:
Quote from: The Troll on January 22, 2011, 11:16:23 AM
You know "ME" I would believe one of these "Rags" before I would believe you're favorite teacher and leader, Glen Beck. :rotfl: :rotfl:
Weren't you the one who said, "I watch him every day.: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: You're just killing me, just keep it up, since I don't have you're twin to pick on. :rotfl: :kiss: Baby Cake. :tiphat:
Well, like I said then Obama must have had an affair since your favorite source for news reported it.
BREAKING NEWS! Sarah Palin is still fucking stupid!
Quote from: Palehorse on January 22, 2011, 02:03:30 PM
BREAKING NEWS! Sarah Palin is still fucking stupid!
:yes: :yes: :yes:
I just saw something about Joan Rivers saying that Sarah is stupid. :rotfl:
Quote from: me on January 22, 2011, 01:50:26 PM
Well, like I said then Obama must have had an affair since your favorite source for news reported it. QuoteQuote from: The Troll on Today at 11:16:23 AM
You know "ME" I would believe one of these "Rags" before I would believe you're favorite teacher and leader, Glen Beck. :rotfl: :rotfl:
Weren't you the one who said, "I watch him every day.: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: You're just killing me, just keep it up, since I don't have you're twin to pick on. :rotfl: :kiss: Baby Cake. :tiphat:
What's wrong Troll no smart ass remark for this one?
Quote from: me on January 22, 2011, 05:41:47 PM
What's wrong Troll no smart ass remark for this one?
Want one, if I really tried very hard and just for you, Baby Cake I probably come up with something. :biggrin:
Sarah is Palin' in comparison to Michelle Bachman in fucking stupidity. Maybe Sarah will choose Michelle as her running mate as a balanced ticket, just like her mentor the genius (relatively speaking) McLame. BTW - who gives a fuck what Maygun McCain has to say?
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=81734
Quote from: dan foster on January 28, 2011, 11:00:48 PM
Sarah is Palin' in comparison to Michelle Bachman in fucking stupidity. Maybe Sarah will choose Michelle as her running mate as a balanced ticket, just like her mentor the genius (relatively speaking) McLame. BTW - who gives a fuck what Maygun McCain has to say?
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=81734
:dam: Oh, my god what a great ticket. Palin and Bachman and "ME" could be campaign manager, we could send her to Washington to day. :yeah:
DOES JOHN McCain HAVE DEMENTIA?
Old John McCain was being interview on television over the weekend. He think we should ramp attacks on Libya. Sure is a War Hawk. :knife: :dead:
Asked who his favorite presidential candidate was he said all of them were good candidates. But he sure wants to have Sarah Palin to run. He said he want to thank her for being on his ticket and wanted to thank her for all of the good work she was doing for the Republican Party. :rolleyes: :biggrin: What more can I say? :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :salute:
Quote from: The Troll on April 25, 2011, 01:11:00 PM
DOES JOHN McCain HAVE DEMENTIA?
Old John McCain was being interview on television over the weekend. He think we should ramp attacks on Libya. Sure is a War Hawk. :knife: :dead:
Asked who his favorite presidential candidate was he said all of them were good candidates. But he sure wants to have Sarah Palin to run. He said he want to thank her for being on his ticket and wanted to thank her for all of the good work she was doing for the Republican Party. :rolleyes: :biggrin: What more can I say? :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :salute:
:food24: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Quote from: The Troll on January 29, 2011, 05:06:53 AM
Oh, my god what a great ticket. Palin and Bachman and "ME" could be campaign manager, we could send her to Washington to day.
That'd probably be the first time she's ever been out of Madison County.
Now we all know that Sara Palin is fuckin' stupid. But wait until you hear this fuckin' proposal.
The United states, State Department has proposed a new passport questionnaire. They say it will take only 45 minutes to complete it.
1. All of the addresses of where you have lived.
2. Names of all of the people that were present for your birth.
3. All of the names and phone numbers of the supervisors that you have worked for. Including the supervisor from
the age of 16.
4. All of the prenatal/post natal appointments of your mother's doctors.
The State Department said this new questionnaire is for people who ansubmitted an incomplete questionnaire the first
time. Also you must sign a sworn signature. So that if you happen to forget to put some down wrong or forget
something you can go to jail.
I call this fuckin' stupid. :rant: I guess my wife and I and a whole lot of people isn't going on a cruise or leave the country. :trustme:
Quote from: The Troll on April 26, 2011, 06:22:33 PM
Now we all know that Sara Palin is fuckin' stupid. But wait until you hear this fuckin' proposal.
The United states, State Department has proposed a new passport questionnaire. They say it will take only 45 minutes to complete it.
1. All of the addresses of where you have lived.
2. Names of all of the people that were present for your birth.
3. All of the names and phone numbers of the supervisors that you have worked for. Including the supervisor from
the age of 16.
4. All of the prenatal/post natal appointments of your mother's doctors.
The State Department said this new questionnaire is for people who ansubmitted an incomplete questionnaire the first
time. Also you must sign a sworn signature. So that if you happen to forget to put some down wrong or forget
something you can go to jail.
I call this fuckin' stupid. :rant: I guess my wife and I and a whole lot of people isn't going on a cruise or leave the country. :trustme:
There's a reason her ancestors moved north; and stayed there! Same reason she should do the same!
Quote from: The Troll on April 26, 2011, 06:22:33 PM
Now we all know that Sara Palin is fuckin' stupid. But wait until you hear this fuckin' proposal.
The United states, State Department has proposed a new passport questionnaire. They say it will take only 45 minutes to complete it.
1. All of the addresses of where you have lived.
2. Names of all of the people that were present for your birth.
3. All of the names and phone numbers of the supervisors that you have worked for. Including the supervisor from
the age of 16.
4. All of the prenatal/post natal appointments of your mother's doctors.
The State Department said this new questionnaire is for people who ansubmitted an incomplete questionnaire the first
time. Also you must sign a sworn signature. So that if you happen to forget to put some down wrong or forget
something you can go to jail.
I call this fuckin' stupid. :rant: I guess my wife and I and a whole lot of people isn't going on a cruise or leave the country. :trustme:
And that has what to do with Palin?
Quote from: me on April 26, 2011, 08:23:04 PM
And that has what to do with Palin?
Really nothing, other than it shows what happens when you put someone into an important job that is fuckin' stupid. It show how fuckin' bad it can be so fuckin' fast. That's all.
Sarah Palin Vice President of the United States of America. How that's fuckin' stupid. :biggrin:
Quote from: The Troll on April 26, 2011, 09:24:07 PM
Really nothing, other than it shows what happens when you put someone into an important job that is fuckin' stupid. It show how fuckin' bad it can be so fuckin' fast. That's all.
Sarah Palin Vice President of the United States of America. How that's fuckin' stupid. :biggrin:
As far as I can see what we have now sure ain't no prize. Biden is more than a few bricks short.
Quote from: me on April 26, 2011, 11:15:45 PM
As far as I can see what we have now sure ain't no prize. Biden is more than a few bricks short.
I would put up Biden against Palin in any debate. Especially in foreign affairs. Even if he can't see Russia from his house. :razz: :smile:
Quote from: The Troll on April 27, 2011, 10:48:25 AM
I would put up Biden against Palin in any debate. Especially in foreign affairs. Even if he can't see Russia from his house. :razz: :smile:
If you could keep him awake long enough to debate anything. :razz:
Quote from: me on April 27, 2011, 01:13:35 PM
If you could keep him awake long enough to debate anything. :razz:
Oh he'd keep awake. He would have her bloomers so far up her crack she would scream like a scalded hog. Not that her voice isn't irritating now. :razz: :wink: :biggrin:
Quote from: me on April 26, 2011, 11:15:45 PM
As far as I can see what we have now sure ain't no prize. Biden is more than a few bricks short.
Yeah, go ahead and live that fox lie. Biden is an absolute genius next to the ignorance that IS palin (and her audience like yourself). Sorry you are allowed to vote, as well. Instead of a poll tax, we need to impose a cognitive, inductive reasoning test on voters. I don't think you would pass.
(http://www.indecisionforever.com/files/2009/07/thismodernworld.jpg)
Sarah :devil4: Smart Republicans
:devil29: HeLL :devil29:
. . ."I think my problem is that I do have the fire in my belly," said Palin. "I'm so adamantly supportive of the good traditional things about America and our free enterprise system and I want to make sure that America is put back on the right track and we only do that by defeating Obama in 2012.". . .
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/20/sarah-palin-has-the-'fire-in-my-belly'-for-prez-run/?fire-in-my-belly?-for-prez-run/?hpt=Sbin (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/20/sarah-palin-has-the-'fire-in-my-belly'-for-prez-run/?fire-in-my-belly?-for-prez-run/?hpt=Sbin)
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
No. . . "your problem" is that you are a self-deluded individual who is so full of herself as to actually believe you are the "answer" to anything, or even have the capacity to actually arrive at an answer or solution via critical thought! :redface:
What a jackass! :yes:
Ya know, I really think ya'll will be disappointed if she doesn't run 'cause ya won't have anyone to pick on. :razz:
Quote from: me on May 21, 2011, 08:04:19 PM
Ya know, I really think ya'll will be disappointed if she doesn't run 'cause ya won't have anyone to pick on. :razz:
White trash begets white trash.
Disappointed? Really!
We all STFU for 17 days about this bimbo, when she STFU. . . then she opens her maw and prances for the media with her homespun analogies and Bush-esque-isms. . . . :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
if she would STFU, so would everyone else
Quote from: me on May 21, 2011, 08:04:19 PM
Ya know, I really think ya'll will be disappointed if she doesn't run 'cause ya won't have anyone to pick on. :razz:
You are correct. Palein represents all that is wrong with the electorate; fucking stupid.
Looks like she's going for it; awesome! Run, Sarah, run! (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/05/26/palin-launching-multi-city-tour-amid-2012-buzz/?hpt=T2)
Quote from: me on May 21, 2011, 08:04:19 PM
Ya know, I really think ya'll will be disappointed if she doesn't run 'cause ya won't have anyone to pick on. :razz:
ROLLING THUNDER. RIDING HARD. PUSHING THE WORD. HAJALUAH SARAH IS RUNNING AGAIN. :4th2:
I knew the douche queen couldn't sit silently on the sidelines! :biggrin: :rolleyes:
(Wonder how long it will take her to quit this time?) :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Quote from: Palehorse on May 26, 2011, 07:08:52 PM
I knew the douche queen couldn't sit silently on the sidelines! :biggrin: :rolleyes:
(Wonder how long it will take her to quit this time?) :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
When her donors quit giving money. You know she isn't spending any of her money. :wink: :smile:
Careful guys, your misogyny is showing.
Quote from: Nighthawk on May 26, 2011, 10:44:55 PM
Careful guys, your misogyny is showing.
Really? Let's see you make your case. :wink:
Quote from: Nighthawk on May 26, 2011, 10:44:55 PM
Careful guys, your misogyny is showing.
Where in hell do you come up with, we hate women. My mother was one and my wife of 48 year is a woman. Now Sarah Palin, I don't hate her. But I sure have no respect for her or do I think she deserves the stature she has received. But for the idiot who now support her. :rolleyes: :razz:
Quote from: Y on May 26, 2011, 11:09:50 PM
Really? Let's see you make your case. :wink:
All through this thread all you guys do is criticize Palin and the only possible reason for this is because she's a woman.
Quote from: Nighthawk on May 26, 2011, 11:21:58 PM
All through this thread all you guys do is criticize Palin and the only possible reason for this is because she's a woman.
LMAO! Are you serious?
And as far as being all-inclusive, do you even know if I'm on this thread before my previous comment?
Quote from: Y on May 26, 2011, 11:44:39 PM
LMAO! Are you serious?
And as far as being all-inclusive, do you even know if I'm on this thread before my previous comment?
Yes I am serious. At least as serious as you are accusing me of racism for the same reason.
And yes you are on this thread. You showed up on page 15.
Quote from: Nighthawk on May 26, 2011, 11:58:47 PM
Yes I am serious. At least as serious as you are accusing me of racism for the same reason.
And yes you are on this thread. You showed up on page 15.
1) When you grasp at demonstrable lies to smear an American of African descent, you're not 'criticizing' policies/decisions, you're exhibiting a singularity focused on Obama as the 'other' - and that Cha-lee coming from Caucasians in this instance is a direct sign of racism.
2) What did I say, and how is it misogynistic?
BTW, I'm going to start a thread on racism, let's discuss race there and not all over the place.
Quote from: Y on May 27, 2011, 12:40:07 AM
1) When you grasp at demonstrable lies to smear an American of African descent, you're not 'criticizing' policies/decisions, you're exhibiting a singularity focused on Obama as the 'other' - and that Cha-lee coming from Caucasians in this instance is a direct sign of racism.
2) What did I say, and how is it misogynistic?
BTW, I'm going to start a thread on racism, let's discuss race there and not all over the place.
I'm thinking that would be impossible since it is the main way Dems sidetrack a discussion when someone disagrees with Obama or his policies.
Quote from: me on May 27, 2011, 04:46:45 AM
I'm thinking that would be impossible since it is the main way Dems sidetrack a discussion when someone disagrees with Obama or his policies.
Let look at your supposed problems with Obama. This some of the things he won't do for the Republicans.
Cut taxes for the Rich. :cry:
Stop Gay marriage. :cry:
Cut taxes for the Rich. :cry:
Screw the American people out of health care. :cry:
Cut taxes for the Rich. :cry:
Won't stop abortions. :cry:
Cut taxes for the Rich. :cry:
Won't give George Bush credit for killing Bin Laden. :cry:
Cut taxes for the Rich. :cry:
Won't throw grandma over the cliff. :cry:
Cut taxes for the Rich. :cry:
Spending money to keep us out of a Hoover depression. :cry:
Cut taxes for the Rich. :cry:
Wouldn't kill the American auto companies, which saved our ass in World War II building tanks and planes. :cry: :cry:
Cut taxes for the Rich. :cry:
Cut, cut, cut, kill the middle class, kill the middle class and let's not forget cut taxes for everything, but the working people.
:biggrin: :biggrin: What the Republicans want is for the rich and the corporations is to rule America :biggrin: :biggrin:
And what do I have to say to you Republicans is. :azz: :azz: :azz: :4th4:
Quote from: The Troll on May 27, 2011, 06:57:12 AM
Let look at your supposed problems with Obama. This some of the things he won't do for the Republicans.
Screw the American people out of health care. :cry:
Quote
Uh, YES he is.....where have you been? Not only is his plan unconstitutional....it is going to raise the cost on everyone dramatically...try reading something besides the Huffington post...
Quote from: The Troll on May 27, 2011, 06:57:12 AM
Won't give George Bush credit for killing Bin Laden. :cry:
Quote
Only because Obama is a classless ass.....
Quote from: The Troll on May 27, 2011, 06:57:12 AM
Won't throw grandma over the cliff. :cry: Quote
and YOU honestly believe in that propaganda BS?.......grandma is going to be fine.....NOBODY is going to take away her Medicare, or Medicade or her S.S............that is only the liberal media trying to demonize a conservative idea....
Paul Ryan's plan will NOT effect anyone over 56 years old.....that leaves us a few years to come up with a plan....the plan we have now is BROKEN... and if left alone will be bankrupt within 10 years...
Quote from: The Troll on May 27, 2011, 06:57:12 AM
Spending money to keep us out of a Hoover depression. :cry: Quote
Obama and his dem buddies has spent over $2 trillion and we find out today that our GDP is much lower than they expected...First-time unemployment claims rose.....the dems has been in control since 2006......Obama has made promises since 2008....yet, we are NOT getting better...
Quote from: The Troll on May 27, 2011, 06:57:12 AM
:biggrin: :biggrin: What the Republicans want is for the rich and the corporations is to rule America :biggrin: :biggrin: Quote
What the Americans want is to return this country into a prosperous nation once again. You have drunk the kool-ade and believe that anyone on the right is evil. There is plenty of evil on the left....OPEN YOUR EYES TROLL!!
The rich and corporations are just as strong as they ever were.........the dems have not done ONE damn thing about it like they promised.....
GE paid no taxes this year.......but, YOU think Big Oil is the only guilty party doing this.....GE is in bed with Obama.
I have said this once and I will say it again.....we need to suspend Corp taxes for ONE year for those whose profits are generated in the United States....and sit back and watch the economy thrive....
My 2 cents and I am sticking to it................despite my liberal and libertarian friends here......that is just the way it should be!!.. :yes: ;)
Why continue to drag out the point? Yes Virginia, she really is THAT stupid. ;D
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on May 27, 2011, 11:05:54 AM
Why continue to drag out the point? Yes Virginia, she really is THAT stupid. ;D
and yet that is only an opinion shared by some like-thinking Americans.....then there is another group who clearly see her as someone who can bring something positive to this country.
I am not ready to say I want her as my POTUS..(because I don't think she is capable of winning)...I have others that I am much more fond of....but, despite the demonization of her by the left...
I think she could accomplish more postives for this Nation than our current leadership....the liberal mentality, in my opinion is not what we need to get our country back to economy that we once had and/or need .... so despite how "stupid" you guys think she is...there are millions who believe she is smarter than what we have....
this is going to be a REAL barn burner over the next few months .....
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 27, 2011, 11:23:08 AM
...there are millions who believe she is smarter than what we have....
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.™
Quote from: Exterminator on May 27, 2011, 11:43:06 AM
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.™
:biggrin:
That and I think "millions" is an overstatement. "A few" people may be more accurate. "A few" people in her house, would be spot on. ;D
Henry has a tendency to exaggerate.
Quote from: Nighthawk on May 26, 2011, 11:21:58 PM
All through this thread all you guys do is criticize Palin and the only possible reason for this is because she's a woman.
Could it be possible that we criticize Palin as a woman is because she is a woman. :genius:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 27, 2011, 11:23:08 AM
and yet that is only an opinion shared by some like-thinking Americans.....then there is another group who clearly see her as someone who can bring something positive to this country.
I am not ready to say I want her as my POTUS..(because I don't think she is capable of winning)...I have others that I am much more fond of....but, despite the demonization of her by the left...
I think she could accomplish more postives for this Nation than our current leadership....the liberal mentality, in my opinion is not what we need to get our country back to economy that we once had and/or need .... so despite how "stupid" you guys think she is...there are millions who believe she is smarter than what we have....
this is going to be a REAL barn burner over the next few months .....
Only a moron would think palin is anything but dumber than dirt. She's even dumber than bush (w) and that speaks volumes. "Economy we once had" ; you mean the one when clinton was president, that left wing liberal that built a great economy only to be torn down by bushco?
You see. I rest my case; only you, a dumbass, would think palin is smart. She would be the next big disaster for this country; probably bigger than bush was. Barn burner? Its a joke.
Quote from: Exterminator on May 27, 2011, 12:07:25 PM
Henry has a tendency to exaggerate.
All I need to know about palin is in this, now old, video;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jve3CJyh5SI&feature=player_detailpage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jve3CJyh5SI&feature=player_detailpage)
WRONG AREA AGAIN!
MY BAD!
Palin is an idiot and a fool. But what is so bad the whole damn bunch of Republicans running for the presidency is the largest group of pathetic fools and idiots the Republican Party has EVER come up with. Thanks for small favors, we don't have to worry about dumbass Mitch Daniels. The press would have killed his wife. :biggrin:
Quote from: dan foster on May 30, 2011, 06:27:37 PM
Only a moron would think palin is anything but dumber than dirt. She's even dumber than bush (w) and that speaks volumes. "Economy we once had" ; you mean the one when clinton was president, that left wing liberal that built a great economy only to be torn down by bushco?
You see. I rest my case; only you, a dumbass, would think palin is smart. She would be the next big disaster for this country; probably bigger than bush was. Barn burner? Its a joke.
blah, blah, blah..........Never anything of value to say.......just, blah, blah, blah.....
try contributing something worth while, ONCE in a while will ya? ALWAYS the same ol BS.
Oh, Squawk! :biggrin:
Quote from: Y on May 27, 2011, 12:40:07 AM
2) What did I say, and how is it misogynistic?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 27, 2011, 11:23:08 AM
.....then there is another group who clearly see her as someone who can bring something positive to this country......
Pray tell what is that, Hank? Oh, and please be specific. :biggrin:
Quote from: Y on June 03, 2011, 12:42:50 AM
Oh, Squawk! :biggrin:
Back on page 15 you imply that she is somehow inferior because she had a few words written on her hand during an interview and then go on to insult her education and where she received it calling it 'second rate'.
I have yet to see you say anything about Obama's botched toast to the Queen. Not only did he talk over the orchestra that was playing "God Save The Queen", a major no-no, but he was using note cards during the toast. Toasts are to memorized, not read from a card.
You differences in your actions regarding these two incidents show that you deem women as inferior and are a misogynist.
Quote from: Nighthawk on June 03, 2011, 12:56:11 PM
Toasts are to memorized...
You differences in your actions....
Sentence structure is your friend. :razz:
Quote from: Nighthawk on June 03, 2011, 12:56:11 PM
Back on page 15 you imply that she is somehow inferior because she had a few words written on her hand during an interview and then go on to insult her education and where she received it calling it 'second rate'.
I have yet to see you say anything about Obama's botched toast to the Queen. Not only did he talk over the orchestra that was playing "God Save The Queen", a major no-no, but he was using note cards during the toast. Toasts are to memorized, not read from a card.
You differences in your actions regarding these two incidents show that you deem women as inferior and are a misogynist.
LMAO!!! Ya' really ain't too swift, are ya', Squawk? :biggrin:
It's a shame you weren't honest enough to quote the post in question because it points out not only your dishonesty but also the ridiculousness of you your claims:
Quote from: Y on February 11, 2010, 05:23:27 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on February 11, 2010, 03:22:37 PM
Hey Sarah, yeah the POTUS may use a teleprompter, but at least he knows how to use one.
You on the other hand, prefer to utilize your hand as a crib sheet, just as you did in grammar school.
Which practice do you think best befits the Chief Executive Officer of a Nation? :biggrin:
That incident is a teller. Can she actually be that naive (I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt :biggrin: ) as to think after all the crap she and the RW have spewed about Obama and teleprompters that she wouldn't be under intense scrutiny any time she gives a speech/public commentary?
Why do people think she's prez material when she only has a second rate communications degree, while Obama has a poly-sci BA from Columbia and a JD (Magna Cum Laude) from Harvard, as well as being a law professor at University of Chicago Law School and they continually claim he's not qualified.
Is it because she was Governor of a state whose entire population is less than the city of Indianapolis?
I mean, come on, really.
<snicker!> :biggrin:
And the hits keep on coming! :biggrin:
(Once again, if you RW/Reug/TP'er's are going to continually blow off about how y'all are either the defenders of the Constitution or heirs of the Founding Fathers, you should at least get some candidates that know the subject matter.)
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/06/03/235571/palin-paul-revere/
Sarah Palin's History Lesson: Paul Revere Warned The British
In what is somehow "not a publicity seeking tour," Tea Party maven Sarah Palin is traipsing around the nation's historic landmarks in her "One Nation" bus to "take Americans back to their roots." Yesterday, Palin's federally assisted vacation-mobile ran over Mitt Romney's presidential announcement and stopped in Boston, MA where she toured the sites along Freedom Trail. Seemingly moved by the historic importance of Boston, Palin decided to recognize the city's own Paul Revere and his famous "Midnight Ride" in which he hung two lanterns and rode to Lexington to warn Patriot leaders that the British army was arriving "by sea." Palin, however, offered her own take on the revolutionary tale:
PALIN: He who warned, uh, the British that they weren't going to be taking away our arms uh by ringing those bells and making sure as he's riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be secure and we were going to be free and we were going to be armed.
As Mediaite's Frances Martel notes, Palin's version "wasn't exactly the official History Channel rendition." It's hard to imagine why Revere would warn the British of anything, or why he'd do it with bells and gun shots...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS4C7bvHv2w&feature=player_embedded
Watching Sarah on her bus traveling the country put me of mind of one of the farmers I worked for. He had a big female Clidesdale horse name Big Sue. She was done farming and she spent her last days traveling around this 40 acre pasture.
On the hot days she moved many times because when she stopped the Circle Flies would start swarming her butt hole. After a short time of this she would move on to get away from them.
It seem to me this just like Sarah Palins bus tour is. Hee, hee, hee. Those damn Republican/Tea Party Circle Flies. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
How Sarah Palin Got it Right About Paul Revere 'Warning the British'
COMMENTARY | Sarah Palin stepped out of Paul Revere's home in Boston and appeared to get her history wrong. The Internet then exploded in ridicule and astonishment at the ditz from Alaska once again uttering nonsense.
It started when Palin told a questioner, according to the Daily Caller, that Revere had had "warned the British" and not the colonials. The firestorm was instantaneous and viral. From staid organs of the mainstream media like the Los Angeles Times to the snarky left side of the Internet such as the Daily Kos, almost everyone arose in high dudgeon.
Except, albeit somewhat clumsily expressed, Palin was correct.
Professor William A. Jacobson over at Legal Insurrection notes the memoirs of Revere himself, as pointed out by the Conservatives4Palin site. In it, Revere recounts an incident during the famous Midnight Ride in which he was accosted by a British military patrol and was interrogated about what his business was on the road. Revere indicated to his British captors that he had warned the countryside of the approach of British troops up the Lexington-Concord road, matching pretty much what Palin said.
"He demanded what time I left Boston? I told him; and added that their troops had catched aground in passing the River, and that there would be five hundred Americans there in a short time, for I had alarmed the Country all the way up. He imediately rode towards those who stoppd us, when all five of them came down upon a full gallop; one of them, whom I afterwards found to be Major Mitchel, of the 5th Regiment, Clapped his pistol to my head, called me by name, & told me he was going to ask me some questions, & if I did not give him true answers, he would blow my brains out. He then asked me similar questions to those above."
So how was it that Palin got it right and just about everyone else got it wrong about Paul Revere and his famous ride? Most peoples' knowledge about Revere begins and ends with the famous Longfellow poem, which somewhat fudged the actual history of the ride that night in 1775. Palin either has actually cracked open a book or, just as likely, was paying attention to the lecture visitors get when they go to Paul Revere's home, unlike her critics.
And so it goes.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ac/20110605/us_ac/8588011_how_sarah_palin_got_it_right_about_paul_revere_warning_the_british_1
who in hell cares what Sarah Palin got right. Hell a broken clock is right two time a day. What a dim bulb. :jc:
Quote from: me on June 05, 2011, 06:33:51 PM
How Sarah Palin Got it Right About Paul Revere 'Warning the British'
COMMENTARY | Sarah Palin stepped out of Paul Revere's home in Boston and appeared to get her history wrong. The Internet then exploded in ridicule and astonishment at the ditz from Alaska once again uttering nonsense.
It started when Palin told a questioner, according to the Daily Caller, that Revere had had "warned the British" and not the colonials. The firestorm was instantaneous and viral. From staid organs of the mainstream media like the Los Angeles Times to the snarky left side of the Internet such as the Daily Kos, almost everyone arose in high dudgeon.
Except, albeit somewhat clumsily expressed, Palin was correct.
Professor William A. Jacobson over at Legal Insurrection notes the memoirs of Revere himself, as pointed out by the Conservatives4Palin site. In it, Revere recounts an incident during the famous Midnight Ride in which he was accosted by a British military patrol and was interrogated about what his business was on the road. Revere indicated to his British captors that he had warned the countryside of the approach of British troops up the Lexington-Concord road, matching pretty much what Palin said.
"He demanded what time I left Boston? I told him; and added that their troops had catched aground in passing the River, and that there would be five hundred Americans there in a short time, for I had alarmed the Country all the way up. He imediately rode towards those who stoppd us, when all five of them came down upon a full gallop; one of them, whom I afterwards found to be Major Mitchel, of the 5th Regiment, Clapped his pistol to my head, called me by name, & told me he was going to ask me some questions, & if I did not give him true answers, he would blow my brains out. He then asked me similar questions to those above."
So how was it that Palin got it right and just about everyone else got it wrong about Paul Revere and his famous ride? Most peoples' knowledge about Revere begins and ends with the famous Longfellow poem, which somewhat fudged the actual history of the ride that night in 1775. Palin either has actually cracked open a book or, just as likely, was paying attention to the lecture visitors get when they go to Paul Revere's home, unlike her critics.
And so it goes.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ac/20110605/us_ac/8588011_how_sarah_palin_got_it_right_about_paul_revere_warning_the_british_1
Quote from: The Troll on June 05, 2011, 11:10:20 PM
who in hell cares what Sarah Palin got right. Hell a broken clock is right two time a day. What a dim bulb. :jc:
You're sure a sore loser.
Quote from: me on June 06, 2011, 03:04:25 AM
You're sure a sore loser.
Sugar Dumplin, just what have I lost. I hope she gets into the race and runs on the Tea Party ticket with Herman Cain. What a power house ticket. :wink: :smile:
Quote from: The Troll on June 06, 2011, 05:18:47 AM
Sugar Dumplin, just what have I lost. I hope she gets into the race and runs on the Tea Party ticket with Herman Cain. What a power house ticket. :wink: :smile:
You lost the ability to bad mouth her about this is what you lost. Turns out she was right and you just can't handle that.
I think she blundered and stumbled and accidentally fell into being partially correct.
She certainly doesn't strike me as one who has EVER done serious research about anything.
If she had known that she was correct, she would have qualified her answer by indicating something like "Contrary to what most think they know as fact, the ride was quite different."
The facts about the ride are commonplace in college level history courses. Problem is that high school texts are rife with errors, either accidental or deliberate -- depending on the political leanings of the textbook committees in those states where the texts are standardized.
But that was the topic of another thread.
Quote from: followsthewolf on June 06, 2011, 11:52:26 AM
I think she blundered and stumbled and accidentally fell into being partially correct.
She certainly doesn't strike me as one who has EVER done serious research about anything.
If she had known that she was correct, she would have qualified her answer by indicating something like "Contrary to what most think they know as fact, the ride was quite different."
The facts about the ride are commonplace in college level history courses. Problem is that high school texts are rife with errors, either accidental or deliberate -- depending on the political leanings of the textbook committees in those states where the texts are standardized.
But that was the topic of another thread.
You guy's won't give her an ounce of credit will you?
Quote from: me on June 06, 2011, 12:44:18 PM
You guy's won't give her an ounce of credit will you?
Why don't you look up what she said and then research the history. She was wrong and your attempts to portray the situation otherwise is either ignorance or more of your lies.
Unlike you, I actually looked it up before I ran my mouth.
Quote from: Exterminator on June 06, 2011, 01:53:33 PM
Why don't you look up what she said and then research the history. She was wrong and your attempts to portray the situation otherwise is either ignorance or more of your lies.
Unlike you, I actually looked it up before I ran my mouth.
And I suppose Yahoo news didn't actually research it either before they published the article.
QuoteQuote from: me on June 05, 2011, 06:33:51 PM
How Sarah Palin Got it Right About Paul Revere 'Warning the British'
COMMENTARY | Sarah Palin stepped out of Paul Revere's home in Boston and appeared to get her history wrong. The Internet then exploded in ridicule and astonishment at the ditz from Alaska once again uttering nonsense.
It started when Palin told a questioner, according to the Daily Caller, that Revere had had "warned the British" and not the colonials. The firestorm was instantaneous and viral. From staid organs of the mainstream media like the Los Angeles Times to the snarky left side of the Internet such as the Daily Kos, almost everyone arose in high dudgeon.
Except, albeit somewhat clumsily expressed, Palin was correct.
Professor William A. Jacobson over at Legal Insurrection notes the memoirs of Revere himself, as pointed out by the Conservatives4Palin site. In it, Revere recounts an incident during the famous Midnight Ride in which he was accosted by a British military patrol and was interrogated about what his business was on the road. Revere indicated to his British captors that he had warned the countryside of the approach of British troops up the Lexington-Concord road, matching pretty much what Palin said.
"He demanded what time I left Boston? I told him; and added that their troops had catched aground in passing the River, and that there would be five hundred Americans there in a short time, for I had alarmed the Country all the way up. He imediately rode towards those who stoppd us, when all five of them came down upon a full gallop; one of them, whom I afterwards found to be Major Mitchel, of the 5th Regiment, Clapped his pistol to my head, called me by name, & told me he was going to ask me some questions, & if I did not give him true answers, he would blow my brains out. He then asked me similar questions to those above."
So how was it that Palin got it right and just about everyone else got it wrong about Paul Revere and his famous ride? Most peoples' knowledge about Revere begins and ends with the famous Longfellow poem, which somewhat fudged the actual history of the ride that night in 1775. Palin either has actually cracked open a book or, just as likely, was paying attention to the lecture visitors get when they go to Paul Revere's home, unlike her critics.
And so it goes.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ac/20110605/us_ac/8588011_how_sarah_palin_got_it_right_about_paul_revere_warning_the_british_1
Quote from: me on June 06, 2011, 02:40:55 PM
And I suppose Yahoo news didn't actually research it either before they published the article.
Today, you'll quote Yahoo news; tomorrow, you'll be slamming them and calling them part of the liberal media. Rather than make yourself look any more foolish, why not do as I suggested, read what Palin actually said, then read the actual history and make the decision for yourself whether or not she was accurate? Trust me, she wasn't but isn't a big enough person to admit it.
Quote from: Exterminator on June 06, 2011, 03:26:33 PM
Today, you'll quote Yahoo news; tomorrow, you'll be slamming them and calling them part of the liberal media. Rather than make yourself look any more foolish, why not do as I suggested, read what Palin actually said, then read the actual history and make the decision for yourself whether or not she was accurate? Trust me, she wasn't but isn't a big enough person to admit it.
I heard the clip of what she said and I also looked up the history. What they are saying is correct. :razz:
Quote from: me on June 06, 2011, 03:29:34 PM
I heard the clip of what she said and I also looked up the history. What they are saying is correct. :razz:
:fireworks: :fireworks: WHO IN HELL CARES WHAT SHE SAYS. :fireworks: :fireworks:
Quote from: The Troll on June 06, 2011, 06:07:58 PM
:fireworks: :fireworks: WHO IN HELL CARES WHAT SHE SAYS. :fireworks: :fireworks:
You do when you think you can make fun of her or put her down.
Quote from: me on June 06, 2011, 06:18:00 PM
You do when you think you can make fun of her or put her down.
I'm sorry, I do frown on clowns. :jester:
Quote from: The Troll on June 06, 2011, 06:54:04 PM
I'm sorry, I do frown on clowns. :jester:
And here all this time I thought you liked Pelosi......she is quite the clown though
Quote from: me on June 06, 2011, 12:44:18 PM
You guy's won't give her an ounce of credit will you?
She doesn't deserve any.
GONE!
AND GONE!
MY BAD!
DON CARTER
Quote from: me on June 06, 2011, 08:05:45 PM
And here all this time I thought you liked Pelosi......she is quite the clown though
I do like Pelosi, she did great work. She sure is so much better than :cry: cry baby John Boner. Kissie Lips. :kiss:
Quote from: The Troll on June 06, 2011, 11:13:10 PM
I do like Pelosi, she did great work. She sure is so much better than :cry: cry baby John Boner. Kissie Lips. :kiss:
Old kiss ass Pelosi the Botox queen.....She is a joke if I ever seen one.
Quote from: me on June 07, 2011, 03:32:26 AM
Old kiss ass Pelosi the Botox queen.....She is a joke if I ever seen one.
I got to give her a lot of credit. All of the names and all of the scorn you guys tried to heap on her never stuck. The main reason you people hated her was she wouldn't bow :bow: down and kiss ass like you Republican excel at so well. :kissit:
The Republican Party the largest group of ass kissing circle flies in the world. Kiss ass :me: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Quote from: me on June 06, 2011, 03:29:34 PM
I heard the clip of what she said and I also looked up the history. What they are saying is correct. :razz:
Really? Wow...
Quote from: me on June 06, 2011, 03:04:25 AM
Yep, palin pretty much is that fucking stupid and supported by a large number of dumbasses that would believe the "insurrection" claim that she "got it right?
Palin is a great example of how fucking stupid this country is; people seriously talk about her and bachman running. Give me a fucking break. You can't have that conversation without being as retarded as palin's kid (yeah, right, grandkid) or as ignorant as a fox new viewer.
Quote from: dan foster on June 07, 2011, 06:19:22 PM
Palin is a great example of how fucking stupid this country is; people seriously talk about her and bachman running. Give me a fucking break. You can't have that conversation without being as retarded as palin's kid (yeah, right, grandkid) or as ignorant as a fox new viewer.
Who pissed in your wheaties anyway? You've really got class making fun of someone's kids who you don't even know.
What is really slaying me right now, are all the different republicans lining up to run for POTUS! :rotfl:
They're coming out of the woodwork like roaches! :eek:
I guess they've never heard of "divide and conquer"? :icon_twisted:
Quote from: Palehorse on June 07, 2011, 08:47:58 PM
What is really slaying me right now, are all the different republicans lining up to run for POTUS! :rotfl:
They're coming out of the woodwork like roaches! :eek:
I guess they've never heard of "divide and conquer"? :icon_twisted:
I hope someone gets RP with some roach spray...he's creepy and I wouldn't vote for him if he were the only one running. :puke:
He is creepy, and isn't he the one who is a ob/gyn? He needs a better tailor, too.
Quote from: Anne on June 07, 2011, 10:19:30 PM
He is creepy, and isn't he the one who is a ob/gyn? He needs a better tailor, too.
I am sure glad to see that you women are catching on to some of these con-men and Old Ron is one of them. :salute:
Quote from: The Troll on June 07, 2011, 10:35:00 PM
I am sure glad to see that you women are catching on to some of these con-men and Old Ron is one of them. :salute:
I don't particularly think he's a con man I just think he's nuttier than a fruit cake.
Has nothing to do with politics (although I don't agree with anything I have heard him say so far), he is just weird.
Quote from: Anne on June 08, 2011, 12:21:30 AM
Has nothing to do with politics (although I don't agree with anything I have heard him say so far), he is just weird.
How about Rand Paul his son. What is it they say? The nuts don't fall far from the tree it grows on. :wink: :smile:
(http://keithgrossman.com/PalinBeck.png)
:biggrin:
Prediction. Sarah Palin fame will be gone after this election cycle. Gone, gone, gone. :bliss:
Her daughter's new book just released nationally only sold 700 copies the first day. I sure sounds like a winner. Heck, Eggo might have bought a dozen of so. Hee, hee, hee. I say, it sure sounds like a fairy tale to me. :chick: :biggrin:
Today she's saying that she's still not sure that she'll run but that she could win! What a dumb slut. (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/07/11/palin-i-can-win/)
She is a bonafide whacknut! :yes:
Here we see congress today, trying every dirty trick in the books to get their way.
How can anyone in their right mind NOT see that voting this whacknut into office is turning the reins of control over to congress????
what dirty tricks?
we just are not going to support tax hikes.............nothing more, nothing less.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 11, 2011, 12:44:07 PM
what dirty tricks?
we just are not going to support tax hikes.............nothing more, nothing less.
ONLY THE BRAINLESS AND THE STUPID CAN MAKE A STATEMENT LIKE THIS. :wacko:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 11, 2011, 12:44:07 PM
what dirty tricks?
we just are not going to support tax hikes.............nothing more, nothing less.
Yes Henry, it looks like Boner and Turtle head and the 34 Republicans are going to take us over the cliff to dead beat nation, to save the rich and the crooked corporations.
Remember you just one of the many who wants the country to default. If this happens what do you think your chances of winning in 2012. Hee, hee, hee. What a dumbass. :wacko:
Personally I think it's time for those "meetings" Obama keeps having behind closed doors should be out in the open so we would really know what's going on. Every time you turn around he's calling a closed door meeting instead of going to congress and doing things on camera like he said he would. So much for the open door policy huh gang... :rolleyes:
Quote from: me on July 12, 2011, 01:16:47 AM
Personally I think it's time for those "meetings" Obama keeps having behind closed doors should be out in the open so we would really know what's going on. Every time you turn around he's calling a closed door meeting instead of going to congress and doing things on camera like he said he would. So much for the open door policy huh gang... :rolleyes:
Yup, it's Obama fault for having all of those closed door meeting, but then the Republicans keep going. Just think what would happen in the Republicans said YES once in awhile and worked for the poor, sick, old and the middle class one time.
Instead of worshiping at the feet of the super rich and the Mega Rich corporations. Com'on "ME" just one time saying YES in the last 2 years.
Quote from: The Troll on July 12, 2011, 06:58:46 AM
Yup, it's Obama fault for having all of those closed door meeting, but then the Republicans keep going. Just think what would happen in the Republicans said YES once in awhile and worked for the poor, sick, old and the middle class one time.
Instead of worshiping at the feet of the super rich and the Mega Rich corporations. Com'on "ME" just one time saying YES in the last 2 years.
Just how do you know for sure what the Republicans aren't saying yes to when everything is done behind closed doors? If what is being done is so great for the population why isn't it being done out in the open?
Quote from: The Troll on July 12, 2011, 06:58:46 AM
Yup, it's Obama fault for having all of those closed door meeting, but then the Republicans keep going. Just think what would happen in the Republicans said YES once in awhile and worked for the poor, sick, old and the middle class one time.
Instead of worshiping at the feet of the super rich and the Mega Rich corporations. Com'on "ME" just one time saying YES in the last 2 years.
Troll, they are not saying YES, because they are standing on principals...........something the left does not have.
The repubs ARE for all Americans....they do not HATE rich people. I don't think YOU do either....you have been trained to think that way. Those rich people provided YOU a very, very nice living and retirement.
You have demonized the very "name" RICH. The RICH are the one's who provide jobs and invest.....keep on dicking with them, and they will just invest where they can make the money....that is why they have left already.
We need to encourage those investors into investing HERE in AMERICA dude!!!!!!.......WHY or WHY can YOU not see this!!! Wake up before it is too late.
Just because you hang out here with others who think like you does not mean you are right....you are wrong...and some day, YOU will realize that Henery is RIGHT!!!!
NO Fucking way are you right. Wrong, wrong, wrong and your killing the American dream, the middle class. :jester:
Quote from: The Troll on July 12, 2011, 12:09:13 PM
NO Fucking way are you right. Wrong, wrong, wrong and your killing the American dream, the middle class. :jester:
YES Fucking way I am RIGHT!!......the American DREAM is being squashed by the liberal left. It was doing fine until it reared it's ugly head back in the 70's and has went down hill ever since....just look at Europe and Greece.......THEY are LIBERALS.
Quote from: The Troll on July 12, 2011, 06:58:46 AM
Yup, it's Obama fault for having all of those closed door meeting, but then the Republicans keep going. Just think what would happen in the Republicans said YES once in awhile and worked for the poor, sick, old and the middle class one time.
Instead of worshiping at the feet of the super rich and the Mega Rich corporations. Com'on "ME" just one time saying YES in the last 2 years.
Quote from: me on July 12, 2011, 09:21:46 AM
Just how do you know for sure what the Republicans aren't saying yes to when everything is done behind closed doors? If what is being done is so great for the population why isn't it being done out in the open?
Uh Troll....I say Troll.....are ya gonna answer the question Troll??...... :poke: :poke: :poke: :poke:
Quote from: me on July 12, 2011, 02:14:09 PM
Uh Troll....I say Troll.....are ya gonna answer the question Troll??...... :poke: :poke: :poke: :poke:
Hell I'm no rocket scientist. Who knows what these dumbass are talking about. I know thing would be different if I was running the show.
First the Hedge fund managers who make billions a year would pay salary taxes. They sure wouldn't get by with paying 15% capital gain taxes on the billions of dollars of income.
Also Henery would shit in his nest, Hawk nest that is, if I could change the tax rates of the rich SOB's and the Mega Rich Corporations and all corporation welfare of all kinds and I do mean stop :stop: all welfare benefits to the rich SOB's, which means Trillions of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ They sure would lose the tax deduction of the jet plane :para: :rant: :biggrin:
While I am at it let's raise the Republican flag. :bsflag: :bsflag: :bsflag: And Republicans talking points. :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs:
Quote from: The Troll on July 12, 2011, 02:54:30 PM
Also Henery would shit in his nest, Hawk nest that is, if I could change the tax rates of the rich SOB's and the Mega Rich Corporations and all corporation welfare of all kinds and I do mean stop :stop: all welfare benefits to the rich SOB's, which means Trillions of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ They sure would lose the tax deduction of the jet plane :para: :rant: :biggrin:
Hey, you would NOT hear me complain about stopping corp welfare..........Obama and the dems are the ones who ran to fannie, freddie, GE, GM, Chrysler....I am against corp welfare...period.
I am against tax deductions and loopholes...THAT is why I am for the fair tax system...
but I do think we should suspend corp taxes for ONE - YEAR to jump start our economy then lower them to be lined up with the rest of the corp world tax rates....
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 12, 2011, 03:08:33 PM
Hey, you would NOT hear me complain about stopping corp welfare..........Obama and the dems are the ones who ran to fannie, freddie, GE, GM, Chrysler....I am against corp welfare...period.
I am against tax deductions and loopholes...THAT is why I am for the fair tax system...
but I do think we should suspend corp taxes for ONE - YEAR to jump start our economy then lower them to be lined up with the rest of the corp world tax rates....
To the Auto companies, it was not welfare, it was a loan and they have or are paying it back and hiring people and it is one of the best thing Obama did for America and the Auto Workers. What a shame that your dad was one of those damn UAW Auto Workers. :rant:
Quote from: The Troll on July 12, 2011, 03:27:54 PM
To the Auto companies, it was not welfare, it was a loan and they have or are paying it back and hiring people and it is one of the best thing Obama did for America and the Auto Workers. What a shame that your dad was one of those damn UAW Auto Workers. :rant:
Taxpayers to Lose $14B in Auto Bailout Funds
The Congressional Budget Office's latest estimate of the stock value indicates that out of the initial $80B, a $14B loss is expected. That figure rises when the value of the stocks decline. The Treasury Department reported that figure at $13.9B based on a March 31 stock price of $31.03. The Administration won't announce when it plans to sell the stock for fear of disrupting prices, and won't commit to selling at a target price.
General Motors stock price year-to-date has declined from a high of $38.98 on January 7 to its current price of $29.90.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 12, 2011, 04:12:57 PM
Taxpayers to Lose $14B in Auto Bailout Funds
The Congressional Budget Office's latest estimate of the stock value indicates that out of the initial $80B, a $14B loss is expected. That figure rises when the value of the stocks decline. The Treasury Department reported that figure at $13.9B based on a March 31 stock price of $31.03. The Administration won't announce when it plans to sell the stock for fear of disrupting prices, and won't commit to selling at a target price.
General Motors stock price year-to-date has declined from a high of $38.98 on January 7 to its current price of $29.90.
Has it happen yet? Why sell it now when the damn Republican depression is still going on. Is you dad still drawing his GM pension check and his UAW drug plan, eye glasses, hearing aids, his Blue Cross, his dental plan and his lawyer service. Well, GM must still be doing something good for their people. :biggrin:
Aren't you glad, you don't have to take care of him and your mother. Which you would get out some way. Damn that God Damn General Motors and all of those old damn retires sucking up all of your tax dollars. :knife: :wacko:
Quote from: The Troll on July 12, 2011, 02:54:30 PM
Hell I'm no rocket scientist. Who knows what these dumbass are talking about. I know thing would be different if I was running the show.
First the Hedge fund managers who make billions a year would pay salary taxes. They sure wouldn't get by with paying 15% capital gain taxes on the billions of dollars of income.
Also Henery would shit in his nest, Hawk nest that is, if I could change the tax rates of the rich SOB's and the Mega Rich Corporations and all corporation welfare of all kinds and I do mean stop :stop: all welfare benefits to the rich SOB's, which means Trillions of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ They sure would lose the tax deduction of the jet plane :para: :rant: :biggrin:
While I am at it let's raise the Republican flag. :bsflag: :bsflag: :bsflag: And Republicans talking points. :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs: :bs:
What kind of an answer is that? Why would it take a rocket scientist to figure out the answer anyway? The questions was: If what he is doing is good for the population why won't Obama let the meetings be public instead of having them behind closed doors?
Quote from: me on July 12, 2011, 07:26:24 PM
What kind of an answer is that? Why would it take a rocket scientist to figure out the answer anyway? The questions was: If what he is doing is good for the population why won't Obama let the meetings be public instead of having them behind closed doors?
I got this...it means nothing.
again....
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 12, 2011, 04:12:57 PM
Taxpayers to Lose $14B in Auto Bailout Funds
The Congressional Budget Office's latest estimate of the stock value indicates that out of the initial $80B, a $14B loss is expected. That figure rises when the value of the stocks decline. The Treasury Department reported that figure at $13.9B based on a March 31 stock price of $31.03. The Administration won't announce when it plans to sell the stock for fear of disrupting prices, and won't commit to selling at a target price.
General Motors stock price year-to-date has declined from a high of $38.98 on January 7 to its current price of $29.90.
3296500 jobs were saved via the bailout of GM and Chrysler, according to The US BLS numbers. That means had we NOT done this there would be that many more unemployed people in this country,PLUS the resulting additional unemployed that would have resulted from supplier layoffs and closures.
The average hourly wage is 29.13/hr for auto manufacturing with an average of 42.8 hrs per employee each week.
You do the math and figure out the financial implications to the economy and this nation in NOT bailing them out. It will make that 14+ billion potential shortfall look like pocket change!
QuoteQuote from: me on July 12, 2011, 07:26:24 PM
What kind of an answer is that? Why would it take a rocket scientist to figure out the answer anyway? The questions was: If what he is doing is good for the population why won't Obama let the meetings be public instead of having them behind closed doors?
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on July 12, 2011, 08:53:49 PM
I got this...it means nothing.
You wouldn't say that if it were a Republican president doing it now would you? Why is this any different? It's not like it's a top secret thing ya know. This is something that should be out in the open not done in secret. It gives the impression there is something rotten in Denmark with his "plan" and he's not wanting it made public.
Quote from: me on July 13, 2011, 04:28:56 AM
You wouldn't say that if it were a Republican president doing it now would you? Why is this any different? It's not like it's a top secret thing ya know. This is something that should be out in the open not done in secret. It gives the impression there is something rotten in Denmark with his "plan" and he's not wanting it made public.
You're right there should be no secret meetings. But with the Republicans there would be no meeting if it wasn't secret. :lurker: They don't want the people of American to know the shit they they are pulling. :sneaky: I do got to say, your Republicans leaders are a shrewd, selfish, mean bunch of Son Of Bitches. They are sure out to screw the poor old, retired, sick and the middle class citizens of the USA. "ME" if I believed what you and Henry and the Republicans said about saving America, I would have to carry this sign every day. :stupid2:
When I think back to your favorite president George W. and all of his secret meetings when he decided to go to war because God told him to. Dick Cheney with his secret meetings with the oil executives just before oil prices went through the roof and would not go under oath when the questioned him on anything, pretty much tells you the Republicans love secrecy. My little Jelly Bean. :kiss: Wouldn't be nice it they change their ways. :007: Yup, they want to send us down the :toilet: :trustme:
Quote from: Palehorse on July 13, 2011, 01:12:48 AM
3296500 jobs were saved via the bailout of GM and Chrysler, according to The US BLS numbers. That means had we NOT done this there would be that many more unemployed people in this country,PLUS the resulting additional unemployed that would have resulted from supplier layoffs and closures.
The average hourly wage is 29.13/hr for auto manufacturing with an average of 42.8 hrs per employee each week.
You do the math and figure out the financial implications to the economy and this nation in NOT bailing them out. It will make that 14+ billion potential shortfall look like pocket change!
speculation.....
Did you know that if you gave a turd a calculator it couldn't figure shit. Because it doesn't have arms. :sneaky: :wink:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 13, 2011, 07:49:47 AM
speculation.....
Really? BTW, since I'm sure you're no better at math than you are at English, I went ahead and did the calculation for you. At a conservative average 30% tax rate, that's over $63 billion
per year.
Quote from: Exterminator on July 13, 2011, 08:42:58 AM
Really? BTW, since I'm sure you're no better at math than you are at English, I went ahead and did the calculation for you. At a conservative average 30% tax rate, that's over $63 billion per year.
who said they would all lose their jobs?............they could have went ch 11 and reconstructed. it is all speculation except for the fact as of now, we have lost $14 billion.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 13, 2011, 08:52:14 AM
who said they would all lose their jobs?............they could have went ch 11 and reconstructed. it is all speculation except for the fact as of now, we have lost $14 billion.
That's how we bring back the economy. We all go bankrupt. Screw the people who gave you credit. Hell, the Republicans want to bankrupt and screw everybody.
Right now the have rich Republican walking away from their million dollar homes, which they could pay for, just because they are worth less than what they owe on them. The true Republican way, if you can screw anyone out of money, SCREW THEM! :007: :sneaky: :toilet: :knife:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 13, 2011, 08:52:14 AM
who said they would all lose their jobs?............they could have went ch 11 and reconstructed. it is all speculation except for the fact as of now, we have lost $14 billion.
Back to yesterday's conversation, since the infrastructure cost for your family is less than you pay in taxes, you actually haven't lost shit.
Quote from: The Troll on July 13, 2011, 07:37:51 AM
You're right there should be no secret meetings. But with the Republicans there would be no meeting if it wasn't secret. :lurker: They don't want the people of American to know the shit they they are pulling. :sneaky: I do got to say, your Republicans leaders are a shrewd, selfish, mean bunch of Son Of Bitches. They are sure out to screw the poor old, retired, sick and the middle class citizens of the USA. "ME" if I believed what you and Henry and the Republicans said about saving America, I would have to carry this sign every day. :stupid2:
When I think back to your favorite president George W. and all of his secret meetings when he decided to go to war because God told him to. Dick Cheney with his secret meetings with the oil executives just before oil prices went through the roof and would not go under oath when the questioned him on anything, pretty much tells you the Republicans love secrecy. My little Jelly Bean. :kiss: Wouldn't be nice it they change their ways. :007: Yup, they want to send us down the :toilet: :trustme:
It's Obama that keeps caling for the closed door meetings not the Republicans and we are talking budget here not national security. In fact we are talking a budget that should have been done 2yrs ago when the dems were in the majority. Quit trying to blame this on Bush and the Republicans that's getting real old.
Quote from: Exterminator on July 13, 2011, 09:27:32 AM
Back to yesterday's conversation, since the infrastructure cost for your family is less than you pay in taxes, you actually haven't lost shit.
third grader...
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 13, 2011, 09:49:14 AM
third grader...
Well, one thing we all know is, "You're not smarter that a 5th grader. :rolleyes: :razz:
Quote from: The Troll on July 13, 2011, 10:25:19 AM
Well, one thing we all know is, "You're not smarter that a 5th grader. :rolleyes: :razz:
Quote from: me on July 13, 2011, 09:44:19 AM
It's Obama that keeps caling for the closed door meetings not the Republicans and we are talking budget here not national security. In fact we are talking a budget that should have been done 2yrs ago when the dems were in the majority. Quit trying to blame this on Bush and the Republicans that's getting real old.
I wish I could do what you want all of us to do, is forget George W. Bush. I just can't. Just think if we hadn't had George W. for 8 years, we wouldn't be going through the bad times we are having now.
I know you just like me, every time you think of him or hear me say his name, you get the foul taste in your mouth. :puke:
I know for one thing, for sure. I didn't vote for him twice like you did. Like with the :puke: you and Henry caused. :razz:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 13, 2011, 07:49:47 AM
speculation.....
http://www.bls.gov/iag/tgs/iagauto.htm#emp_national (http://www.bls.gov/iag/tgs/iagauto.htm#emp_national)
FACT! You do the math Henry. The fact is that the lion's share of those people would have been unemployed, and homeless by now by the way, and without means to support themselves or their families. At minimum, 1 million more homes would have gone into default, not to mention the money all of those families spend on groceries, gas, utilities, clothing, and other necessities that would have been instantly removed from the revenue streams of retailers.
Then there are all of the ancillary businesses that would have also gone under or at minimum drastically downsized, and the additional negative impacts to all of the above.
We loaned them the money to keep them in business and keep those families working. We didn't do it to own companies or make a profit. Had we not done so this country would be thousands of times worse off than it is. . . Especially since the private sector is hoarding their money and not creating jobs at the level the conservative theory would have them doing. . .
Had GM and Chrysler failed, ALL of this would have come to pass. Now, I've proven my perspective. Lets see some
credible proof that yours is a theory that is proven to work? Something more than conservative talking head talking points.
Quote from: Palehorse on July 13, 2011, 12:09:32 PM
Something more than conservative talking head talking points.
That's all he's got.
Quote from: me on July 13, 2011, 09:44:19 AM
It's Obama that keeps caling for the closed door meetings not the Republicans and we are talking budget here not national security. In fact we are talking a budget that should have been done 2yrs ago when the dems were in the majority. Quit trying to blame this on Bush and the Republicans that's getting real old.
AHEM! It's not national security? Really! So in your view when this country cannot pay its bills, cannot pay its employees, cannot pay its military, Homeland Security, FBI, National Guard, Coast Guard, and financially collapses, it is NOT about national security?
You really need to take those rose colored glasses off and stop drinking that sour mash grape juice!
There are things that are intrinsic to the day to day operation of this nation that you DO NOT want to know, let me assure you. If you did, you'd soil your underwear and never sleep. . . In fact, if you knew just what congress alone actually does, you'd need round the clock thorazine injections.
And when all of these government entities stop operations, and their employees go home, just how long do you think it will take for Mexico to try to take back Texas, Arizona, New Mexico? How long do you think it will take before those Russian Subs to begin launching and for foreign troops to begin massing off our shores? How long do you think the United States of America can exist?
Quote
FACT! You do the math Henry. The fact is that the lion's share of those people would have been unemployed, and homeless by now by the way, and without means to support themselves or their families. At minimum, 1 million more homes would have gone into default, not to mention the money all of those families spend on groceries, gas, utilities, clothing, and other necessities that would have been instantly removed from the revenue streams of retailers.
Then there are all of the ancillary businesses that would have also gone under or at minimum drastically downsized, and the additional negative impacts to all of the above.
We loaned them the money to keep them in business and keep those families working. We didn't do it to own companies or make a profit. Had we not done so this country would be thousands of times worse off than it is. . . Especially since the private sector is hoarding their money and not creating jobs at the level the conservative theory would have them doing. . .
Had GM and Chrysler failed, ALL of this would have come to pass. Now, I've proven my perspective. Lets see some credible proof that yours is a theory that is proven to work? Something more than conservative talking head talking points.
first of all I have no "theory"...just a few thoughts...
you are assuming that had we not bailed them out....all would have been lost. There is NO proof of that.
I'm not saying that we should NOT have bailed them out, by the way....I'm just pointing out the fact we don't know WHAT would have happened if we didn't.
if they get in trouble again do we just keep on bailing them out?
Maybe Ford becomes even stronger if that happens and employees more and more....
I just pointed out the loss we are on the verge of receiving...it is easy to say well we would have lost more IF.....but we don't know the IF....only speculation.
no talking points....just a "speculation".
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 13, 2011, 12:28:13 PM
first of all I have no "theory"...just a few thoughts...
you are assuming that had we not bailed them out....all would have been lost. There is NO proof of that.
I'm not saying that we should NOT have bailed them out, by the way....I'm just pointing out the fact we don't know WHAT would have happened if we didn't.
if they get in trouble again do we just keep on bailing them out?
Maybe Ford becomes even stronger if that happens and employees more and more....
I just pointed out the loss we are on the verge of receiving...it is easy to say well we would have lost more IF.....but we don't know the IF....only speculation.
no talking points....just a "speculation".
Drive north on Scatterfield Road in Anderson, and explain to me how that doesn't prove that this would have happened!
So, it's okay to tax people to build a sports stadium that provides employment for multi millionaires, but NOT okay to use tax money to keep millions of American families gainfully employed?
(By the way, this is Chrysler's second trip to the plate).
Using your methodology, I'll say that the 14 billion dollar "loss" you are squawking about is not real, because it has not happened yet, and so it is speculation.
Quote from: Palehorse on July 13, 2011, 12:36:09 PM
Drive north on Scatterfield Road in Anderson, and explain to me how that doesn't prove that this would have happened!
So, it's okay to tax people to build a sports stadium that provides employment for multi millionaires, but NOT okay to use tax money to keep millions of American families gainfully employed?
(By the way, this is Chrysler's second trip to the plate).
Using your methodology, I'll say that the 14 billion dollar "loss" you are squawking about is not real, because it has not happened yet, and so it is speculation.
absolutly...it IS speculation. It also could be more than 14 billion if GM does not get things going.
I did not say anything about it is okay to build a sports stadium....that is a whole different topic.
I am all in favor of employing Americans....but, let's let the private industry do it....NOT the Government. That is NOT what they were elected for...to buy and sell business.....these guys are lawyers NOT businessmen.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 13, 2011, 12:52:25 PM
.....these guys are...NOT businessmen.
Neither are you.
Quote from: Palehorse on July 13, 2011, 12:17:06 PM
AHEM! It's not national security? Really! So in your view when this country cannot pay its bills, cannot pay its employees, cannot pay its military, Homeland Security, FBI, National Guard, Coast Guard, and financially collapses, it is NOT about national security?
You really need to take those rose colored glasses off and stop drinking that sour mash grape juice!
There are things that are intrinsic to the day to day operation of this nation that you DO NOT want to know, let me assure you. If you did, you'd soil your underwear and never sleep. . . In fact, if you knew just what congress alone actually does, you'd need round the clock thorazine injections.
And when all of these government entities stop operations, and their employees go home, just how long do you think it will take for Mexico to try to take back Texas, Arizona, New Mexico? How long do you think it will take before those Russian Subs to begin launching and for foreign troops to begin massing off our shores? How long do you think the United States of America can exist?
What I find so strange is ya'll screamed bloody murder because Bush didn't make everything public knowledge and so far Obama has made almost nothing, even the promised CNN coverage, public and ya'll are ok with it. Hell he's puttin' out there that we won't be able to pay the military, social security, FBI, and all those entities anyway so why not make the meetings public? I mean he keeps saying he has a plan but has anyone actually heard it or heard him explain it? No, all he says is unless you go with my plan there is no deal, not exact words but that's what he is intimating.
As far as GM going bankrupt what happened to they were going to buy Chrysler and all of a sudden this TARP became a reality and they were suddenly broke and needed a bail out too? I'm sure if you think about it hard enough you'll remember.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/10/20/us-chrysler-gm-idUSTRE49J09E20081020
Quote from: Exterminator on July 13, 2011, 01:15:29 PM
Neither are you.
are you sure about that? Or are you just talking like you usually do, without a clue?
If it walks like a duck, swims like a duck, quacks like a duck and farts under water like a duck, it must be Henry Duck. :wacko: Pardon me, Henry Hawk!
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 13, 2011, 01:23:47 PM
are you sure about that? Or are you just talking like you usually do, without a clue?
Yes, I'm positive.
Quote from: me on July 13, 2011, 01:19:50 PM
What I find so strange is ya'll screamed bloody murder because Bush didn't make everything public...
Links?
Quote from: me on July 13, 2011, 02:26:41 PM
Quit with the links already you know you did.
Nope and that's whay you can't provide an example. You're up to your old tricks again of just making up shit to go along with your little tirades.
Quote from: Exterminator on July 13, 2011, 02:38:19 PM
Nope and that's whay you can't provide an example. You're up to your old tricks again of just making up shit to go along with your little tirades.
Nope you just have a poor, or selective, memory. The American people have a right to know was said constantly including on this forum and you know it.
You're delusional; take your meds.
Quote from: Exterminator on July 13, 2011, 02:23:50 PM
Yes, I'm positive.
Yes, You are positive that you are just talking like you usually do, without a clue... :razz:
What happened? They practiced "vodoo economics" that's what happened. The EXACT same thing the republicans are trying to force feed us. We all saw what it did to GM.
Pop quiz: What is the definition of insanity? (If u were paying attention and have the slightest level of reading comprehension u know the answer)
:no:
Quote from: Exterminator on July 13, 2011, 02:38:19 PM
Nope and that's whay you can't provide an example. You're up to your old tricks again of just making up shit to go along with your little tirades.
Exactly, although I seem to recall that they felt like Bush's secrecy was for "nation" security". They talk out of both sides of their mouths. :yes:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on July 13, 2011, 10:38:53 PM
Exactly, although I seem to recall that they felt like Bush's secrecy was for "nation" security". They talk out of both sides of their mouths. :yes:
What a fuckin' shame. It looks like Sarah Palin and her family flame and fame is about to go out.
Bristol Palin last book "Hopefully Not Afraid of Failure" is a flop and I do mean a FLOP! The book has sold 1479 copies and 18 Audiobooks. At one book signing Sarah was with her and would give one of her autographs if someone would buy one of Bristol's books. Sarah is sure good at sales. :wink: :biggrin:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 13, 2011, 01:23:47 PM
are you sure about that? Or are you just talking like you usually do, without a clue?
I'll play your little game; tell us all about your "business" role in your current job.
Quote from: Exterminator on July 14, 2011, 08:32:47 AM
I'll play your little game; tell us all about your "business" role in your current job.
He said in one of his posts he was just like family, where he works or puts in his time and even went to lunch is his boss all the time, I wonder if it's a loooong lunch. Does it take a business degree in brown nosing to be a "business" expert? Just asking. :rolleyes: :biggrin:
Quote from: Exterminator on July 14, 2011, 08:32:47 AM
I'll play your little game; tell us all about your "business" role in your current job.
Naw, I have nothing to prove to you. Even if I went into details, it wouldn't change anything. You don't like me because I choose to raise a family, go to church and liked Ronald Reagan. I like Golden Retrievers over German Shepards, I prefer to ride in planes rather than jumping out of them. I only own ONE guitar......so, my role as a businessman will only be coffered in your eyes.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 14, 2011, 09:08:38 AM
Naw, I have nothing to prove to you. Even if I went into details, it wouldn't change anything. You don't like me because I choose to raise a family, go to church and liked Ronald Reagan. I like Golden Retrievers over German Shepards, I prefer to ride in planes rather than jumping out of them. I only own ONE guitar......so, my role as a businessman will only be coffered in your eyes.
Coffered: A sunken panel or a dome ceiling. Or storing valuable items in a chest. Like I coffered my money in my money chest. I don't get what you mean. :rolleyes: :smile:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 14, 2011, 09:08:38 AM
Naw, I have nothing to prove to you. Even if I went into details, it wouldn't change anything. You don't like me because I choose to raise a family, go to church and liked Ronald Reagan. I like Golden Retrievers over German Shepards, I prefer to ride in planes rather than jumping out of them. I only own ONE guitar......so, my role as a businessman will only be coffered in your eyes.
I didn't think so...and it's
shepherd.
More bad news for the quitter. She is being left off the Ames straw poll! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 14, 2011, 09:08:38 AM
Naw, I have nothing to prove to you. Even if I went into details, it wouldn't change anything. You don't like me because I choose to raise a family, go to church and liked Ronald Reagan. I like Golden Retrievers over German Shepards, I prefer to ride in planes rather than jumping out of them. I only own ONE guitar......so, my role as a businessman will only be coffered in your eyes.
Hey, I want to play too....I am a card carrying Republican who voted for Reagan. I own 5 guitars. However, Regan's legacy has been hijacked by right-wing fascists who play him as the "conservative" card, but they don't talk about his "negotiation" with the enemy (gorbachev), his unwillingness to fuck the rest of the world with our national blood and treasure (he called Tripoli a mistake), and would never have marched into Iran like the dum bass son of his VP. So, like it or not, Regan was a left-wing puke compared to the dumb asses that call on his namesake like they were "key yen". The latest dumb asses to choose from has ensured I will never vote republican, again. Now, for the record; Reagan was senile, made a lot of mistakes, came up with the biggest giveaway to the richest few, ever, and should be relegated to just below bush as the worst ever, because of that....
Quote from: dan foster on July 28, 2011, 09:50:34 PM
Hey, I want to play too....I am a card carrying Republican who voted for Reagan. I own 5 guitars. However, Regan's legacy has been hijacked by right-wing fascists who play him as the "conservative" card, but they don't talk about his "negotiation" with the enemy (gorbachev), his unwillingness to fuck the rest of the world with our national blood and treasure (he called Tripoli a mistake), and would never have marched into Iran like the dum bass son of his VP. So, like it or not, Regan was a left-wing puke compared to the dumb asses that call on his namesake like they were "key yen". The latest dumb asses to choose from has ensured I will never vote republican, again. Now, for the record; Reagan was senile, made a lot of mistakes, came up with the biggest giveaway to the richest few, ever, and should be relegated to just below bush as the worst ever, because of that....
Don't feel bad, I was a card carrying Democrat who voted for Reagan and all of the Republican Party lies about Jimmy Carter.
It was one of the poorest votes I ever made and I will never repeat it again. I would vote for a yellow dog before I would ever vote Republican again.
Believe them about the high interest rates Jimmy had. Only to find out the Paul Volcker head of Federal Reserve had raised them to destroy poor old Jimmy. Also we had George H. Bush with is past connection with the CIA to negotiate with Iran to hold the American hostages until after the election.
Oh, the Dirty Tricks Team of the Republican is live and well. This Republican Team make Goebbels of the Nazi Party look like a piker.
If you look at the states where the Republicans have full control it shows that they are not for FREEDOM! But religious persecution of women and unions and the middle class. God damn them, I hate the racist bastards to the morrow of their bones. :hanged:
She is clearly too fuckin' stupid to realize that she isn't relevant.
She's a quitter and thinks she possesses credibility with which to criticize congress?! :food24: :rotfl:
Quote from: Palehorse on July 29, 2011, 01:10:57 PM
She's a quitter and thinks she possesses credibility with which to criticize congress?! :food24: :rotfl:
:rain2: It's raining on her parade and like the Wicked Witch :witch: she is slowly melting into a pool of shit. :rain1:
Quote from: The Troll on July 29, 2011, 07:55:34 AM
Don't feel bad, I was a card carrying Democrat who voted for Reagan and all of the Republican Party lies about Jimmy Carter.
It was one of the poorest votes I ever made and I will never repeat it again. I would vote for a yellow dog before I would ever vote Republican again.
Believe them about the high interest rates Jimmy had. Only to find out the Paul Volcker head of Federal Reserve had raised them to destroy poor old Jimmy. Also we had George H. Bush with is past connection with the CIA to negotiate with Iran to hold the American hostages until after the election.
Oh, the Dirty Tricks Team of the Republican is live and well. This Republican Team make Goebbels of the Nazi Party look like a piker.
If you look at the states where the Republicans have full control it shows that they are not for FREEDOM! But religious persecution of women and unions and the middle class. God damn them, I hate the racist bastards to the morrow of their bones. :hanged:
I did consider myself a Libertarian, but that too has been hijacked by the racist bastards you referred to (tea baggers). I will just call myself a strict Constitutionalist and leave it at that. I may never vote again. Most of the problems associated with the right wing are unconstitutional, in my opinion;
- War on Drugs
- Defense of Marriage (the gov't has no business being involved in marriage, only Civil Unions. Marriage is a religious institution. Only legal status should be given to Civil Unions between two consenting adults regardless of gender; sorry FDLS but you can still marry thee 12yr old nieces, but you can't collect additional welfare or extend property, et al, rights to them )
- Faith Based Initiatives (the gov't being owned by them)
- Wall Street (the gov't being owned by them; all three branches and the press)
- Healthcare (gov't should only allow health care on a not-for-profit basis, then the Wall Street line would be partially fixed; currently health care is a large part of the financial sector and the FDA only promotes big pharma instead of regulating it, which spends 3x on advertising than on research)
- Bought and paid for Press (it ain't free no more, News Corp being the prime example; a right-wing hack[ers])
- The Fed (Wall Street and the Fed made a conscious decision 30yrs ago to flip from mostly manufacturing to mostly financial sector. We did and the huge sucking sound of the money being "re-distributed" from the middle class to wealthiest few is still pretty loud, along with all the jobs sent overseas to increase the corp bottom line)
If we went back to the Constitution instead all the shit that I just listed, that isn't, then we might have a chance to survive. Otherwise, better find that little patch of land you can grow your own food on with as many weapons you can find in order to protect it.
Quote from: dan foster on July 30, 2011, 02:31:08 PM
I did consider myself a Libertarian, but that too has been hijacked by the racist bastards you referred to (tea baggers). I will just call myself a strict Constitutionalist and leave it at that. I may never vote again. Most of the problems associated with the right wing are unconstitutional, in my opinion;
- War on Drugs
- Defense of Marriage (the gov't has no business being involved in marriage, only Civil Unions. Marriage is a religious institution. Only legal status should be given to Civil Unions between two consenting adults regardless of gender; sorry FDLS but you can still marry thee 12yr old nieces, but you can't collect additional welfare or extend property, et al, rights to them )
- Faith Based Initiatives (the gov't being owned by them)
- Wall Street (the gov't being owned by them; all three branches and the press)
- Healthcare (gov't should only allow health care on a not-for-profit basis, then the Wall Street line would be partially fixed; currently health care is a large part of the financial sector and the FDA only promotes big pharma instead of regulating it, which spends 3x on advertising than on research)
- Bought and paid for Press (it ain't free no more, News Corp being the prime example; a right-wing hack[ers])
- The Fed (Wall Street and the Fed made a conscious decision 30yrs ago to flip from mostly manufacturing to mostly financial sector. We did and the huge sucking sound of the money being "re-distributed" from the middle class to wealthiest few is still pretty loud, along with all the jobs sent overseas to increase the corp bottom line)
If we went back to the Constitution instead all the shit that I just listed, that isn't, then we might have a chance to survive. Otherwise, better find that little patch of land you can grow your own food on with as many weapons you can find in order to protect it.
Well, I am not a strict constitutionalists. I think it should grow with the need of the people, science and the general condition of America. The people who wrote the Constitution did know anything about science or how this country would grow and how powerful the super rich and the corporations would get (there were no corporations in American at that time). Everything must grow and develop or it will die or be taken over by something that is growing in intelligence everyday. That is why I can't be a strict Constitutionalists.
I really think you have visions of grandeur living of your own little bit of land in Indiana and surviving. Forty eight years a go I tried to buy three or four acres of land to build a house, out in the country. I tried to buy hills, thickets, abandoned houses on farms. The damn farmers would not sell on drop of land even if you told them you would give the going rate for good farm ground and pay all expenses involved in the sale. Land they were not using or worth farming. Even give them some money under the table.
In this day and age, I don't care how many guns you have, you got to leave the place some time and sleep. The bastards will rob you blind, your food, your house and if you shoot one them the Judaical system and some stupid jury of your "peers" will take your land and home and put you in prison. Just look at the druggist who got life in prison for shooting a robber and killing him who came into his store to rob him and his employees :rant:
Every day it's something new with this dumb bitch. Why doesn't she just STFU already?
She got a national state; a bunch of half-literates hooked up with her; she then thought she had more brain matter than she does. Couple that with her "I'm cuter than you" attitude, and you've got an annoying bullshit talking machine.
Quote from: Exterminator on August 03, 2011, 10:37:21 AM
Every day it's something new with this dumb bitch. Why doesn't she just STFU already?
Can't you afford a TV with a mute button or a remote to change channels?
Quote from: me on August 03, 2011, 01:45:40 PM
Can't you afford a TV with a mute button or a remote to change channels?
Where can I buy a remote that would STFU you, "ME". :grin2:
A Perry/Palin 2012 win would be good for America.
Quote from: Doc on August 25, 2011, 08:02:27 PM
A Perry/Palin 2012 win would be good for America.
:lol: :poop:
Quote from: Doc on August 25, 2011, 08:02:27 PM
A Perry/Palin 2012 win would be good for America.
You really shouldn't post when you're drunk.
Quote from: Doc on August 25, 2011, 08:02:27 PM
A Perry/Palin 2012 win would be good for America.
The fact that Perry, or Palin or Bachman can even run for office in this country doesn't bode well for our future. After bush, people want morons back in office? Oh yeah, must be part of gawd's wrath on us sinners. Ferry/Failing couldn't be anything but, from the pond scum of a being in your mind.
After seeing what the Teabaggers have done the the past weeks. I think the Teabaggers have flushed :toilet: old Sarah the media made wonder down the toilet and she in the swirl on the way down and out to waste treatment. Hee, hee, hee, I say, DAMN I say, I love the sound of the FLUSH! :chick: :biggrin:
Quote from: Doc on August 25, 2011, 08:02:27 PM
A Perry/Palin 2012 win would be good for America.
I don't know what pipe you are smoking; crack or O'really's....... :yes:
Quote from: Doc on August 25, 2011, 08:02:27 PM
A Perry/Palin 2012 win would be good for America.
:rotfl: :rotfl: Remember this little jewel. :rotfl: :rotfl: :knife: :jester:
When Yahoo News spoke to Roger Ailes at Fox News' 15th anniversary party in September, the cable channel chief said that if Sarah Palin decided to run for president, her position as a paid network contributor would be over.
"She's out," Ailes said. "Done, immediately." He added: "We'd cover [her] like we would any other candidate--fair and balanced."
Ultimately, Palin decided not to run, but according to New York magazine's Gabriel Sherman, her days at Fox may be numbered anyway. According to the report, Ailes was furious that Palin made her Oct. 5 announcement on conservative talk-show host Mark Levin's radio show--and not on Fox News.
Palin appeared on Greta Van Susteren's primetime show on Fox that night to discuss her decision, but Ailes was nonetheless livid, according to the magazine.
"I paid her for two years to make this announcement on my network," Ailes scolded Bill Shine, Fox News' executive vice president of programming, according to Sherman's sources.
Palin's reported $1 million-per-year contract with Fox is up in 2013, and it now seems unlikely it will be extended. According to the New York magazine report, Ailes considered "benching" Palin over the incident.
If Fox does end up ditching Palin, it will mark a striking fall from favor for the onetime candidate-in-waiting. In September, Ailes told Newsweek that he hired the former vice presidential candidate when she was "hot." Ailes now appears to view Palin as lukewarm, at best.
Of course, Ailes' history with political candidates predates the launch of Fox News. Beginning in the late 1960s, Ailes served as a political consultant to a string of Republican candidates, advising the likes of Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush.
According to Sherman, Palin's decision to snub Fox on her announcement was driven by the favoritism that she thought Ailes was showing to political consultant Karl Rove, who has been one of Palin's most vocal critics.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/report-sarah-palin-scolded-roger-ailes-over-2012-201616644.html
^^ Looks like ole' S.P. is going to be out at Faux News pretty soon. ;D
Rather than start yet another topic on the "My Pretty Pony" Queen of the GOP, I thought I'd add to this one.
Here's the latest installment of the Sarah Palin saga. This jackwagon just will NOT go away.
Adding to the plethora of idiotic statements of this woman, today she says this:
Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin told a capacity crowd at a National Rifle Association rally how she would baptize terrorists if she was an elected official.
"If I was in charge," Palin said Saturday in Indianapolis, "they would know, waterboarding is how we baptize terrorists.". . .
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/04/28/palin-waterboarding-is-how-we-baptize-terrorists/?hpt=hp_t2 (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/04/28/palin-waterboarding-is-how-we-baptize-terrorists/?hpt=hp_t2)
It's called separation of church and state yah stupid bimbo! :rant:
And I will reiterate the words of our late, great friend, followsthewolf:
Quote from: followsthewolf on August 03, 2011, 12:05:42 PM
She got a national state; a bunch of half-literates hooked up with her; she then thought she had more brain matter than she does. Couple that with her "I'm cuter than you" attitude, and you've got an annoying bullshit talking machine.
Indeed. And here we are a little over 2 years after we last talked about this wench, and she is spewing again! :mad:
Quote from: Palehorse on April 28, 2014, 06:15:14 PM
And I will reiterate the words of our late, great friend, followsthewolf:
Indeed. And here we are a little over 2 years after we last talked about this wench, and she is spewing again! :mad:
:haha: :haha: :haha: And she is one of the corner post and speaker for the present Republican/Tea Party. :haha: :haha: :pink: :pink: :pink:
:chick: Henry, "ME" and Anne just love her. :love: :haha: :haha:
Quote from: The Troll on April 29, 2014, 11:48:38 AM
:haha: :haha: :haha: And she is one of the corner post and speaker for the present Republican/Tea Party. :haha: :haha: :pink: :pink: :pink:
:chick: Henry, "ME" and Anne just love her. :love: :haha: :haha:
Only in this case she was speaking in Indianapolis at the NRA convention.
This makes me even more leery of the NRA. Did they not learn anything from the GOP's FUBAR campaign and her involvement. Were they not watching over the ensuing 6 years as she created one public relations train wreck after another?
Are they that desperate that they are willing to scrape under the friggin barrel to obtain more members?
Un- be- fugging-lievable! :spooked:
The most interesting thing I saw about the entire NRA convention was that one of the news channels - 6 IIRC - had a black reporter there and he interviewed a black attendee. Now what was interesting about that was every time I caught coverage of the convention on any channel, I was specifically checking out the crowd being shown. Not once did I see another black face in the crowds of attendees.
Now on the other hand, when the news showed coverage of the gun control and NRA protests, one half or so of the people involved were black.
I had to wonder how that reporter managed to find one of the few - I won't claim he was the only one - black folks attending that convention.
Things that make you go 'hmmmmmmmmmmmm'.
Quote from: Y on April 29, 2014, 06:53:05 PM
The most interesting thing I saw about the entire NRA convention was that one of the news channels - 6 IIRC - had a black reporter there and he interviewed a black attendee. Now what was interesting about that was every time I caught coverage of the convention on any channel, I was specifically checking out the crowd being shown. Not once did I see another black face in the crowds of attendees.
Now on the other hand, when the news showed coverage of the gun control and NRA protests, one half or so of the people involved were black.
I had to wonder how that reporter managed to find one of the few - I won't claim he was the only one - black folks attending that convention.
Things that make you go 'hmmmmmmmmmmmm'.
I work with a guy who is a Life Member of the NRA, and he is a bit off kilter. One of those guys that it isn't hard to imagine going over the edge one day if you know what I mean.
He sports an NRA Life Member belt buckle most days, and teaches handgun courses as well as the UTAH course.
I avoid him as much as possible! :spooked:
I used to be a card carrying member of the NRA, but when they started getting REAL stupid and political, I dumped them and am now totally against them. The NRA was once a collection of sporting enthusiasts but has suffered a hostile takeover the RW and their simple-minded, propaganda swallowing, sheep.
Oh! I almost forgot. Yes, Sarah Palin REALLY is that friggin' stupid.
Quote from: Y on April 29, 2014, 07:08:01 PM
I used to be a card carrying member of the NRA, but when they started getting REAL stupid and political, I dumped them and am now totally against them. The NRA was once a collection of sporting enthusiasts but has suffered a hostile takeover the RW and their simple-minded, propaganda swallowing, sheep.
As was I. I still maintain that owning and knowing how to properly use a firearm is a basic necessity and a constitutionally protected right, but like you I found them to be draconian and flat out overzealous in their tactics and "battle plans".
Then there was the spamming of my snail mail box, looking for donations all of the time. I was over it in a real hurry once that crap started, and I dropped them and have avoided them ever since. Too many whacknutz and weekend warrior types fill their ranks these days.
I agree.
Quote from: Palehorse on April 29, 2014, 07:16:43 PM
As was I. I still maintain that owning and knowing how to properly use a firearm is a basic necessity and a constitutionally protected right, but like you I found them to be draconian and flat out overzealous in their tactics and "battle plans".
Then there was the spamming of my snail mail box, looking for donations all of the time. I was over it in a real hurry once that crap started, and I dropped them and have avoided them ever since. Too many whacknutz and weekend warrior types fill their ranks these days.
I was a member of the NRA and I started to receive all kinds of pleas for money and of course all of the spamming in my mail box. :yes: :mad: So the next time I paid my dues I put a false middle letter for my middle name. :smile: Guess what, the NRA was selling my name and address to these spammers. :mad: Last time I paid dues to the National Rifle Association. :yes: :biggrin:
Stupid see you next Tuesday! :biggrin:
"She'll weigh in on anything."
— "True Blood" actress Kristin Bauer van Straten on recent news that Sarah Palin declined an invitation to appear on HBO's vampire soap because of the show's negative portrayal of conservatives. Last week Palin told Breitbart News that the show wanted to "insult" her. In an episode that aired July 20, Bauer van Straten's character, a vampire named Pam, crashes a fundraiser for Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas). Speaking at Comic-Con International in San Diego on Saturday, Bauer van Straten said she'd had fun making Palin angry.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/reliable-source/wp/2014/07/28/true-blood-vs-sarah-palin/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/reliable-source/wp/2014/07/28/true-blood-vs-sarah-palin/)
:biggrin:
Now Sarah Palin is unveiling a new media channel, called, conveniently enough, the Sarah Palin Channel, where she promises to do away with the "filter" and really Listen to you. It costs $9.95 a month — or $99.95 a year.
This is going to be a lot of value. To put this in perspective, you can get a full year's Sunday subscription to The Washington Post — as well as unlimited access to our digital content — for about half that. It must be very expensive to remove the filter from all that news.
For the same price or cheaper, you can also:
* Subscribe to Netflix (just $7.99 a month for standard-definition!), which includes both "Orange Is the New Black," a show about women you are forced to spend time with even if you don't want to, AND "House of Cards," a show where sinister crony capitalists control government in an unrealistic way, and also other shows that are more fun. Many, many other shows.
* Become an Amazon Prime subscriber (Disclosure: Amazon chief executive Jeffrey P. Bezos owns The Post)
* Buy a friend a gift subscription to TheBlaze
* Receive e-mail forwards from your irate grandmother with the same exact pictures
* Not hear about Sarah Palin at all
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/wp/2014/07/28/sarah-palin-channel-is-right-i-am-wrong/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/wp/2014/07/28/sarah-palin-channel-is-right-i-am-wrong/)
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
I like the option in bold. ;D
You call Palin dumb and Pelosi thinks HAMAS is a humanitarian organization?????? I think Pelosi ranks right up there and on dumb scale. Starts at 3min 49sec. It's in her own words so you can't knock the source.
https://www.youtube.com/v/_rbemvkbh7I
Quote from: me on July 29, 2014, 10:46:19 PM
You call Palin dumb and Pelosi thinks HAMAS is a humanitarian organization?????? I think Pelosi ranks right up there and on dumb scale. Starts at 3min 49sec. It's in her own words so you can't knock the source.
https://www.youtube.com/v/_rbemvkbh7I
Absolute bull$hit!!!!!
Here's the actual quote ...
"And we have to confer with the Qataris, who have told me over and over again that Hamas is a humanitarian organization. Maybe they could use their influence to ..."
At which point she was rudely interrupted with the question ""The U.S. thinks they're a terrorist organization though, correct? Do you?"
AND SHE AGREED!
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Pwned! :biggrin:
Quote from: Bo D on July 30, 2014, 11:24:23 AM
Sometimes it's just TOO easy!
Like shooting fish in a barrel!
Quote from: Exterminator on July 30, 2014, 11:10:42 AM
Pwned! :biggrin:
And she's allowed to vote. :roll eyes:
The fact is she even said they were a humanitarian organization in the first place and the way she reacted after the question which was not in the least convincing. That little pathetic answer was puny to say the least. She is a prize idiot who wouldn't know the truth if it jumped up and bit her.
Quote from: me on July 30, 2014, 02:04:06 PM
The fact is she even said they were a humanitarian organization in the first place and the way she reacted after the question which was not in the least convincing. That little pathetic answer was puny to say the least. She is a prize idiot who wouldn't know the truth if it jumped up and bit her.
She never said they were a humanitarian organization!!!! :rant:
How can we put this in words you can understand? She said - "the
Qataris, who have told me over and over again that Hamas is a humanitarian organization"
Any way you slice it she said what she said and I heard more than just that little clip and have also heard her call them freedom fighters so say what you will she is one dumb bitch as well as an ass kisser who will say or do anything to please the POTUS.
O.....M.....G
You may as well ---> :wall:
Quote from: me on July 30, 2014, 02:04:06 PM
The fact is she even said they were a humanitarian organization in the first place. . .
Using your preferred logic, as you have within your last few posts; YOU just said it! :spooked:
I just think it is totally wrong to keep making fun of and putting down someone and then when we do it we're vilified or called bigots or worse. If ya can't take it done to others don't do it. HH and I don't get vicious and mean with our criticisms and you all do. You attack the person not the issues you differ with her on and that's what I dislike.
Quote from: me on July 30, 2014, 09:55:26 PM
I just think it is totally wrong to keep making fun of and putting down someone and then when we do it we're vilified or called bigots or worse. If ya can't take it done to others don't do it. HH and I don't get vicious and mean with our criticisms and you all do. You attack the person not the issues you differ with her on and that's what I dislike.
You guys criticisms contain a lot of code words which I think are vicious, but you voted for her and John McCain and what else would you think, Honey Pot. :haha:
Why don't you take that "code word as an excuse to twist things around to fit your agenda" crap and stick it. Remember the accuser is usually the one doing it in cases like this and you, the left in general, happen to be the accuser in this case.
Quote from: me on July 30, 2014, 02:04:06 PM
She is I am a prize idiot who wouldn't know the truth if it jumped up and bit her me.
Fixed this for you!
And you paid how much for college education so you could learn how to act like a school child with your wise ass replies that mean nothing?
Quote from: me on July 31, 2014, 02:27:25 PM
And you paid how much for college education so you could learn how to act like a school child with your wise ass replies that mean nothing?
You know ... I guess sometimes I feel like I have to stoop pretty damned low to be able to communicate at your level.
Well Bo D, I think you stooped way too low and you seem awfully comfortable down there. :wink:
Quote from: me on July 31, 2014, 02:27:25 PM
And you paid how much for college education so you could learn how to act like a school child with your wise ass replies that mean nothing?
Your inability to understand something does not necessarily make it meaningless.
Quote from: Exterminator on August 01, 2014, 09:14:06 AM
Your inability to understand something does not necessarily make it meaningless.
I do believe the inability to stick to the issue and only bash and name call is what makes what you post meaningless.
Quote from: me on August 01, 2014, 01:12:04 PM
I do believe the inability to stick to the issue and only bash and name call is what makes what you post meaningless.
And how does Pelosi have anything to do with Sarah Palin being fuckin' stupid?
Ya'll bashing and bad mouthing Palin and one of your own is even worse but you can't stand criticism of her of any sort. If you talked about how you disagree with her on issues that's one thing but some of the names she's been called and things that have been said about her are just totally uncalled for. Liberals are full of hate for anything/anyone who doesn't conform to and agree with their agenda.
Can't we just hate her because she's a dumb fucking cunt?
Quote from: Exterminator on August 01, 2014, 03:11:40 PM
Can't we just hate her because she's a dumb fucking cunt?
Works for me!
Quote from: Exterminator on August 01, 2014, 03:11:40 PM
Can't we just hate her because she's a dumb fucking cunt?
That is why we hate Pelosi....the exact same reason.... :yes: along with Sheila Jackson Lee.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 01, 2014, 03:59:12 PM
That is why we hate Pelosi....the exact same reason.... :yes: along with Sheila Jackson Lee.
:biggrin: :thumbsup:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 01, 2014, 03:59:12 PM
That is why we hate Pelosi....the exact same reason.... :yes: along with Sheila Jackson Lee.
And that is why the Troll hates the Republican leadership, they're dumb fucking cunts. :yes: :trustme: :clap: :clap: :yeah: :yeah: I really hate the cunts.:wait: :biggrin:
Must be that "cycle" thing eh?
Once agin, it's time for your Caribou Barbie monthly update: (Bitch cannot go 30 days without getting her skank name in the media).
It seems ol' Caribou Barbie and her clan got all nasty at a snowmobile party up north. . . :roll eyes:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/sarah-palin-family-involved-drunken-fight-snowmobile-party-reports-article-1.1936604 (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/sarah-palin-family-involved-drunken-fight-snowmobile-party-reports-article-1.1936604)
Seems the family was then asked to leave once the fisticuffs were over; to which Caribou Barbie replied, "Do you know who I am?"
Yeah bitch. We ALL know who your skanky ass is, now pack your shit and you and your attention whore of a family get out! :biggrin:
Oh really????
http://wonkette.com/559940/anchorage-pd-palins-were-present-at-20-person-brawl-fate-of-hos-weave-unknown
QuoteWell, look who is doing some journamalism, it is us, yr Wonkette. A delightful story about Bristol Palin's mean right hook, Todd Palin's bloody nose, and Sarah Palin screeching DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM was gossiported by our old pals at ImmoralMinority, and we done called up the Anchorage PD to say "yo, Palin fight?" and they said "maybe." ALL THE
Read more at http://wonkette.com/559940/anchorage-pd-palins-were-present-at-20-person-brawl-fate-of-hos-weave-unknown#UOpVa3UK3AChC4vY.99
Quote from: Palehorse on September 11, 2014, 07:23:53 PM
Must be that "cycle" thing eh?
Once agin, it's time for your Caribou Barbie monthly update: (Bitch cannot go 30 days without getting her skank name in the media).
It seems ol' Caribou Barbie and her clan got all nasty at a snowmobile party up north. . . :rolleyes:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/sarah-palin-family-involved-drunken-fight-snowmobile-party-reports-article-1.1936604 (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/sarah-palin-family-involved-drunken-fight-snowmobile-party-reports-article-1.1936604)
Seems the family was then asked to leave once the fisticuffs were over; to which Caribou Barbie replied, "Do you know who I am?"
Yeah bitch. We ALL know who your skanky ass is, now pack your shit and you and your attention whore of a family get out! :biggrin:
I'm sure this is a reliable source too.... :rolleyes:
My best friend that I grew up with actually knows Todd Palin, and says he is a great guy. I am not a fan of listening to Sarah speak, she irritates me with her speaking style, but I think the libs just love to bash this family every time they get the opportunity to do so.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 12, 2014, 08:37:11 AM
I think the libs just love to bash this family every time they get the opportunity to do so.
She makes it easy.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 12, 2014, 08:37:11 AM
I'm sure this is a reliable source too.... :rolleyes:
Did you bother to read the article?
" Anchorage Police Department spokeswoman Jennifer Castro confirmed to the Daily News that Palin's family got into the messy fight, but no arrests were made because no one pressed charges.
Just before midnight, "Anchorage police responded to a report of a verbal and physical altercation taking place between multiple subjects," according to a statement released by police. "Alcohol was believed to have been a factor in the incident."
Quote from: Bo D on September 12, 2014, 09:02:21 AM
Did you bother to read the article?
Rhetorical question? :razz:
Sounds like the whore daughter is cranking out another bastard child. (http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/25/us/bristol-palin-pregnant/index.html)
Quote from: Exterminator on June 26, 2015, 08:22:25 AM
Sounds like the whore daughter is cranking out another bastard child. (http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/25/us/bristol-palin-pregnant/index.html)
Yup. And momma got sacked at Faux News again too! 😬
Quote from: Exterminator on June 26, 2015, 08:22:25 AM
Sounds like the whore daughter is cranking out another bastard child. (http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/25/us/bristol-palin-pregnant/index.html)
She was paid more than $300,000 be an
abstinence spokesperson for the Candie's Foundation. :rant:
Quote from: Bo D on June 26, 2015, 11:34:23 AM
She was paid more than $300,000 be an abstinence spokesperson for the Candie's Foundation. :rant:
That's just more of the "do as I say, not as I do" crap that we constantly get from the Republicans.
Quote from: Bo D on June 26, 2015, 11:34:23 AM
She was paid more than $300,000 be an abstinence spokesperson for the Candie's Foundation. :rant:
First of all, Bristol is 24 years old.
Neil Cole, CEO and President of Iconix Brand Group, Inc (parent company of Candie's) it was clarified that the salaries listed are, in fact, the salaries paid by the Iconix Brand Group, Inc to these 3 officers and were required to be listed on The Candie's Foundation Tax Form 990 (Return of Organization Exempt From Income Tax), which can be viewed for public inspection here because Iconix is a "related organization". Funds for their combined $13 million dollar compensation do not come directly from any donations to The Candie's Foundation.
Mr. Cole further stated his belief that hiring Ms. Palin to be the spokesperson for The Candie's Foundation was a bold strategy for the organization, as their primary mission is to raise awareness, not donate funds. "We partnered with Bristol Palin because she is a lightning rod for stories like this. I don't care what people want to say about her, but I do care what they have to say about the foundation, myself and the other officers. We do not receive a cent for the charitable work we do. Because of this press, tonight families will be sitting around the table talking about teen pregnancy. If a few teens take action to prevent pregnancy because of this news story, it's worth it."
Congratulations Ms. Palin. At $262,500, you are a highly paid lightening rod.
Who gives a flip? Palin is not in politics. She is making money to independently raise her children. She is raising awareness and the people who HIRED her are happy.
NOW WHO IS IT, trying to bring politics in this? those gool ol MSNBC minions...THAT's who.... ;) :razz:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 26, 2015, 01:37:21 PM
NOW WHO IS IT, trying to bring politics in this? those gool ol MSNBC minions...THAT's who.... ;) :razz:
It doesn't change the fact that these ongoing examples of "do as I say, not as I do," which is the very definition of hypocrisy, come primarily from folks on your side of the aisle. In this case, the progeny of a very loud-mouthed member of your side of the aisle.
Quote from: Locutus on June 26, 2015, 01:42:44 PM
It doesn't change the fact that these ongoing examples of "do as I say, not as I do," which is the very definition of hypocrisy, come primarily from folks on your side of the aisle. In this case, the progeny of a very loud-mouthed member of your side of the aisle.
It is comparative to Al Gore and the liberal, hollywood, loudmouths who preach about global warming, yet fly private jets, have fuel guzzling boats, drive limos. Or the Rosie O'Donnell types who preach for more gun control laws, yet hire private body guards with guns to protect them. There were TON of democrats bitching about Bush spending too much money and raising the deficit, yet they do the same....just admit, both sides have a large amount of hypocrisy.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 26, 2015, 01:37:21 PM
[/i]Who gives a flip? Palin is not in politics.
"If Bristol Palin's last name was 'Obama' the whole Hee Haw gang at Fox News would spend half of every day for the next nine months telling us that Bristol Obama has terrible parents—'Maybe Michelle should be less concerned with what your kids are eating and more concerned with what her kids are doing!'—and the half of the day pretending to fret over the terrible example that Bristol Obama was setting for other African American women and girls. But unplanned pregnancies and kids in fatherless homes and two different children by two different fathers? IOIYAR. (It's ok if you're a Republican)." -- Dan Savage...and so would Hank and 'me'.
Quote from: Exterminator on June 26, 2015, 03:33:31 PM
"If Bristol Palin's last name was 'Obama' the whole Hee Haw gang at Fox News would spend half of every day for the next nine months telling us that Bristol Obama has terrible parents—'Maybe Michelle should be less concerned with what your kids are eating and more concerned with what her kids are doing!'—and the half of the day pretending to fret over the terrible example that Bristol Obama was setting for other African American women and girls. But unplanned pregnancies and kids in fatherless homes and two different children by two different fathers? IOIYAR. (It's ok if you're a Republican)." -- Dan Savage
...and so would Hank and 'me'.
Palin is NOT POTUS.
Quote from: Exterminator on June 26, 2015, 03:33:31 PM
"If Bristol Palin's last name was 'Obama' the whole Hee Haw gang at Fox News would spend half of every day for the next nine months telling us that Bristol Obama has terrible parents—'Maybe Michelle should be less concerned with what your kids are eating and more concerned with what her kids are doing!'—and the half of the day pretending to fret over the terrible example that Bristol Obama was setting for other African American women and girls. But unplanned pregnancies and kids in fatherless homes and two different children by two different fathers? IOIYAR. (It's ok if you're a Republican)." -- Dan Savage
...and so would Hank and 'me'.
Palin's daughter is an adult not a child.
Quote from: me on June 26, 2015, 05:17:33 PM
Palin's daughter is an adult not a child.
That would not matter in the hypothetical case presented herein. And you know it. You guys would be all over that like stink on shite!
Quote from: Palehorse on June 26, 2015, 05:19:53 PM
That would not matter in the hypothetical case presented herein. And you know it. You guys would be all over that like stink on shite!
Yes, it would matter and the kids have nothing to do with disliking their fathers policies. To dislike a persons policies is one thing but to personally attack someone in this manner is entirely another. So you don't like Sarah is that a reason to do a character assination on her daughter?
Quote from: me on June 27, 2015, 01:26:50 AM
So you don't like Sarah is that a reason to do a character assination on her daughter?
I don't like her daughter either and she's the one who chose to live in the public eye.
Quote from: me on June 27, 2015, 01:26:50 AM
So you don't like Sarah is that a reason to do a character assination on her daughter?
JEEZUS CHRIST!! You're beyond dense.
Her daughter assassinated her own character by whoring around and getting pregnant all while being paid over $200K to promote abstinence. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Locutus on June 28, 2015, 07:06:56 PM
JEEZUS CHRIST!! You're beyond dense.
Her daughter assassinated her own character by whoring around and getting pregnant all while being paid over $200K to promote abstinence. :rolleyes:
:yes:
Quote from: Locutus on June 28, 2015, 07:06:56 PM
JEEZUS CHRIST!! You're beyond dense.
Her daughter assassinated her own character by whoring around and getting pregnant all while being paid over $200K to promote abstinence. :rolleyes:
Uh, she wasn't whoring around she was engaged to the guy, there is a difference.
Quote from: me on June 28, 2015, 09:01:22 PM
Uh, she wasn't whoring around she was engaged to the guy, there is a difference.
You sure the guy she was engaged to is the baby daddy? ;D :razz:
Quote from: me on June 28, 2015, 09:01:22 PM
Uh, she wasn't whoring around she was engaged to the guy, there is a difference.
She did this to herself. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lqt7ZMj75M)
Yup!
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10418541_367129786819354_5662368366342266702_n.jpg?oh=d8a2a7987768483ee781503c2fcf3748&oe=561AAB6F)
:rotfl:
The RW seems to have a penchant for publicly exposing themselves as the biggest hypocrites ever. You'd think they'd learn.
She could have had an abortion and said nothing rather than admit she was pregnant out of wedlock and that took a lot of guts. Of course you all would have been fine with that, her having an abortion that is, I'm sure. I just can't believe a bunch of supposedly educated people have nothing better to do than make fun of people.
And once again, this witch is out prancing; this time saying she will fight Paul Ryan on behalf of Rump. . . :roll eyes:
She's a legend in her own mind, and an absolute example of what is wrong with the GOP in the first place. :mad:
She actually was instrumental in starting all of the problems.
Quote from: me on June 28, 2015, 09:01:22 PM
Uh, she wasn't whoring around she was engaged to the guy, there is a difference.
There is? What is it. :haha: There was no wedding vows where there. :haha: She gave birth to a bastard child. Let us pray. :pray: :pope:
Quote from: Locutus on May 08, 2016, 02:40:04 PM
She actually was instrumental in starting all of the problems.
Yup. The old divide and conquer strategy seems to have backfired on the GOP. . . And their poster bitch will not STFU and go away. . . :biggrin:
Well,well, well. The raging Cheeto woke her up and brought her to the dance, so he might as well go ahead and kiss her! :big grin:
Maybe he'll just grab her by the vagina while he's at it! :big grin:
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/sarah-palin-calls-out-trump-s-carrier-deal-warns-against-n691426 (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/sarah-palin-calls-out-trump-s-carrier-deal-warns-against-n691426)
An unexpected dissenting voice came out Friday against a Trump administration brokered deal to keep a Carrier plant in Indiana and save around 1,000 jobs.
Former Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin in an op-ed for the Young Conservatives website called the deal, which was reportedly negotiated by Vice President-elect Mike Pence, an example of government intervention that could lead to "crony capitalism."
Palin said in the op-ed "I am ecstatic for Carrier employees!" But she wrote that while she didn't yet know the full terms of the deal, the negotiation could signal an abandonment of fiscal conservatism and stimulus packages that, if pursued, would mean the country is "doomed."
She's still riding the VP wagon from almost a decade ago! :rolleyes:
Quote from: Palehorse on December 05, 2016, 03:18:52 PM
Well,well, well. The raging Cheeto woke her up and brought her to the dance, so he might as well go ahead and kiss her! :big grin:
Maybe he'll just grab her by the vagina while he's at it! :big grin:
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/sarah-palin-calls-out-trump-s-carrier-deal-warns-against-n691426 (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/sarah-palin-calls-out-trump-s-carrier-deal-warns-against-n691426)
An unexpected dissenting voice came out Friday against a Trump administration brokered deal to keep a Carrier plant in Indiana and save around 1,000 jobs.
Former Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin in an op-ed for the Young Conservatives website called the deal, which was reportedly negotiated by Vice President-elect Mike Pence, an example of government intervention that could lead to "crony capitalism."
Palin said in the op-ed "I am ecstatic for Carrier employees!" But she wrote that while she didn't yet know the full terms of the deal, the negotiation could signal an abandonment of fiscal conservatism and stimulus packages that, if pursued, would mean the country is "doomed."
She's still riding the VP wagon from almost a decade ago! :rolleyes:
The number of jobs saved at Carrier is closer to 800 than a thousand. :rant: I'll bet grabbing Sarah by the vagina, Trump would find something very large. :yes: With all the kid she has had. :haha: :groan:
I read where Palin was taking issue with this last week but didn't have time to post anything about it. ;D
Quote from: The Troll on December 05, 2016, 05:16:25 PM
The number of jobs saved at Carrier is closer to 800 than a thousand.
I posted here last week that it was 730 and that's what it is.
Quote from: Exterminator on December 06, 2016, 09:11:30 AM
I posted here last week that it was 730 and that's what it is.
Lets get right down to it. He actually hasn't saved ANY JOBS as of yet. He has had discussions w/carrier.... He isn't the POTUS, but has already talked Carrier into staying here and ALLEGEDLY, keeping 700 to 800 jobs.
Lets give him a chance........funny how all of the experts are so quick to slam him, even AFTER he has done something positive.
According to Greg Hayes, chief executive of UTC....His words........
"We keep the plant open, we keep 1,100 people employed in Indianapolis. We still get to do the preponderance of the restructuring, which we were going to do anyways,"
Let's just wait and see, but it seems like the LEADERSHIP of Trump is influencing a positive for the people of Indiana, and the business world in the USA
.
Time will tell
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 06, 2016, 10:39:12 AM
...funny how all of the experts are so quick to slam him, even AFTER he has done something positive.
Like you did Obama after he saved 1.5
million auto worker jobs? Let me guess...this is one of the things about him with which you disagree. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 06, 2016, 10:39:12 AM
Lets get right down to it. He actually hasn't saved ANY JOBS as of yet. He has had discussions w/carrier.... He isn't the POTUS, but has already talked Carrier into staying here and ALLEGEDLY, keeping 700 to 800 jobs.
Lets give him a chance........funny how all of the experts are so quick to slam him, even AFTER he has done something positive.
According to Greg Hayes, chief executive of UTC....His words........"We keep the plant open, we keep 1,100 people employed in Indianapolis. We still get to do the preponderance of the restructuring, which we were going to do anyways,"
Let's just wait and see, but it seems like the LEADERSHIP of Trump is influencing a positive for the people of Indiana, and the business world in the USA.
Time will tell
The Attention Whore Palin is the one critical of the Raging Cheeto's game plans surrounding the "Carrier" deal. And while it pains me to say this, (you have no idea how greatly it pains me), I partially agree with it.
In fact, this whole deal smacks of skullduggery.
What happened in this "deal" is that Carrier just laid out the basic game plan for a hybrid of what Congress has been doing to the 99%'ers in this nation for nearly a decade; holding the taxpayers hostage for ransom.
7 million dollars (+/-) in exchange for retaining a number of jobs. TAX dollars. And in the background while the Cheeto and Anti-Christ were crowing about the deal, they eliminated a number of other jobs in the state that nearly doubles the number saved; netting Carrier the desired labor savings costs, the tax write offs for the shutting down of those businesses, and a "windfall" of 7 million (+/-) on the backs of TAXPAYING citizens. (Welfare)
The whole thing is ironic in that the Anti-Christ, Cheeto, and their henchmen have all stated their intense desire to eliminate/drastically reduce the social safety net programs of this nation, including Social Security, as a means to "reduce costs". In reality what they are doing is nothing short of stealing from the poor and giving it to the wealthy, faceless, soulless, corporations of Amerika. And forcing the 99%'ers of this nation to fund it all. And the ignorance based election results now ensure that they have the absolute control of the government necessary to implement it all.
While I am happy for those employees that will benefit from the "deal" by enjoying their continued employment, I seriously question the purported altruism of those brokering the deal, and with good reason.
I have interviewed at least a dozen of the individuals that would have been impacted by the Indy Carrier plants closure. All of them were benefitting from generous separation packages and "stay-bonuses" that motivated them to continue within their positions until the final day of work there. To the point where they refused offers of employment that provided compensation at of slightly above that which they enjoyed with Carrier.
We have all seen nearly a decade of obstructionist politics that negatively impacted the least amongst us, nurtured the oppression of the average worker via the reduction of compensation and benefits levels, and held the meager social safety nets funding hostage to the political ideals of extremists. All while they pandered to the corporate entities of this nation and their business interests.
These political interests are now set to take the reins of power in this nation for the next 4 years. How exactly is this going to benefit the 99%'ers of this nation?
Quote from: Exterminator on December 06, 2016, 10:56:43 AM
Like you did Obama after he saved 1.5 million auto worker jobs? Let me guess...this is one of the things about him with which you disagree. :rolleyes:
Well lets get one thing straight first, Bush was the one that initiated the bail out before Obama took office.....so it isn't like he was brilliant...but, in hindsight, it all turned out for the good, so I give Kudo's to Obama (something you said I never done)....I think it could have been handled other ways, but this is what happened...it was his call and he gets the glory....but he also did things like giving nearly a billion $$$ loans to Solyndra that failed....cost taxpayers.
Sooo....yeah.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 06, 2016, 11:37:00 AM
Well lets get one thing straight first, Bush was the one that initiated the bail out before Obama took office.....so it isn't like he was brilliant...but, in hindsight, it all turned out for the good, so I give Kudo's to Obama (something you said I never done)....I think it could have been handled other ways, but this is what happened...it was his call and he gets the glory....but he also did things like giving nearly a billion $$$ loans to Solyndra that failed....cost taxpayers.
Sooo....yeah.
Have you even followed what has happened in years that followed the Solyndra thing on which you Repugs like to focus? As of 2014, that program is now operating in the black despite an initial 2.2% loss rate. Yet you don't hear anyone talking about that, right? :rolleyes:
Quote from: Locutus on December 06, 2016, 12:17:07 PM
Have you even followed what has happened in years that followed the Solyndra thing on which you Repugs like to focus? As of 2014, that program is now operating in the black despite an initial 2.2% loss rate. Yet you don't hear anyone talking about that, right? :rolleyes:
If it is, it is NO LONGER Solyndra...according to wikipedia:
Solyndra was a manufacturer of cylindrical panels of copper indium gallium selenide (CIGS) thin film solar cells based in Fremont, California. Although the company was once touted for its unusual technology, plummeting silicon prices led to the company's being unable to compete with conventional solar panels made of crystalline silicon.[1] The company filed for bankruptcy on September 1, 2011Between 2009 and mid-2011 the price of polysilicon, the key ingredient for most competing technologies, dropped by about 89%[1]. This precipitous drop in the cost of raw materials for Solyndra's competitors rendered CIGS technology incapable of competing. On August 31, 2011, Solyndra announced it was filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, laying off 1,100 employees, and shutting down all operations and manufacturing.[22]
In September, 2011, the company ceased all business activity, filed for bankruptcy under Chapter 11, Title 11 of the United States Bankruptcy Code, and laid off all employees.[2][3][23] The company was also sued by employees who were abruptly laid off.[24] Solyndra was raided by the FBI investigating the company.[25] Federal agents visited the homes of Brian Harrison, the company's CEO, and Chris Gronet, the company's founder, to examine computer files and documents.[26] Also, in September 2011, the US Department of the Treasury launched an investigation.[27] Bloomberg reported in 2011 that Solyndra's $733 million plant had whistling robots and spa showers, along with many other signs of extravagant spending.[28]
Also in 2011, a US Department of the Treasury official confirmed that the criminal probe of Solyndra is focused on whether the company and its officers misrepresented the firm's finances to the government in seeking the loan or engaged in accounting fraud.[29] Newly revealed emails showed that the Obama administration had concerns about the legality of the Department of Energy's loan restructuring plan and warned OMB director Jeffrey D. Zients that the plan should be cleared with the Department of Justice first, which the Department of Energy had not done. The emails also revealed that as early as August 2009, an aide to then-White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel had asked a Department of Energy official if he could discuss any concerns among the investment community about Solyndra but that the official dismissed the idea that Solyndra had financial problems
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 06, 2016, 10:39:12 AM
Lets get right down to it. He actually hasn't saved ANY JOBS as of yet. He has had discussions w/carrier.... He isn't the POTUS, but has already talked Carrier into staying here and ALLEGEDLY, keeping 700 to 800 jobs.
Lets give him a chance........funny how all of the experts are so quick to slam him, even AFTER he has done something positive.
According to Greg Hayes, chief executive of UTC....His words........"We keep the plant open, we keep 1,100 people employed in Indianapolis. We still get to do the preponderance of the restructuring, which we were going to do anyways,"
Let's just wait and see, but it seems like the LEADERSHIP of Trump is influencing a positive for the people of Indiana, and the business world in the USA.
Time will tell
They are here so long as we, the workers in this state, pay them $7 million. :rolleyes:
Quote from: parkerdivine on December 06, 2016, 03:39:13 PM
They are here so long as we, the workers in this state, pay them $7 million. :rolleyes:
We aren't going to pay them $7 million. They will get $7 million in tax breaks over a 10-year period as long as they invest, which they plan on spending AT least $16 million back into it's facilities here in the State........seems like a pretty good return to me.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 06, 2016, 03:37:22 PM
If it is, it is NO LONGER Solyndra...according to wikipedia:
I'm talking about the federal program that was responsible for the loan.
Quote from: Locutus on December 06, 2016, 04:07:34 PM
I'm talking about the federal program that was responsible for the loan.
Not being argumentative, but curious as to what you are talking about....got more info?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 06, 2016, 04:23:51 PM
Not being argumentative, but curious as to what you are talking about....got more info?
Yep! You can read all about it here:
http://www.npr.org/2014/11/13/363572151/after-solyndra-loss-u-s-energy-loan-program-turning-a-profit
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 06, 2016, 03:53:01 PM
We aren't going to pay them $7 million. They will get $7 million in tax breaks over a 10-year period as long as they invest, which they plan on spending AT least $16 million back into it's facilities here in the State........seems like a pretty good return to me.
Which means there will be 7 million dollars less in the budget over the next 10 years. . . And where do you think the state budget will get that 7 million dollar deficit made up exactly?
This is called "kicking the can" methodology . . . :kickcan:
Quote from: Palehorse on December 06, 2016, 04:51:17 PM
Which means there will be 7 million dollars less in the budget over the next 10 years. . . And where do you think the state budget will get that 7 million dollar deficit made up exactly?
This is called "kicking the can" methodology . . . :kickcan:
I know..I know..social programs which help the poor or taxes on something we use...upping the sales tax? Sure, why not?
Quote from: parkerdivine on December 06, 2016, 08:23:39 PM
I know..I know..social programs which help the poor or taxes on something we use...upping the sales tax? Sure, why not?
Because the "can" is
always the least amongst us that pay the price, that is why not.
Corporate Amerika posts historic profit levels while the poor starve, die horrifically due to lack of medical care, and their ranks are growing exponentially.
A perfect example is big oil subsidization in this country. Why do we persist in giving them
billions every single year while their bottom line increases exponentially? Wouldn't that money be far better spent in providing funding that feeds and cares for those who cannot provide for their families? In education of our people instead of drilling for profit? In paying back social security for the billions illegally taken from it by congress?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 06, 2016, 03:53:01 PM
We aren't going to pay them $7 million. They will get $7 million in tax breaks...
And from where do you think the money comes to cover that shortfall in the state's budget?
I see PH already asked this as well...
Quote...as long as they invest, which they plan on spending AT least $16 million back into it's facilities here in the State.
And here's what they're spending that money on...eliminating jobs! (http://www.theindychannel.com/news/politics/carriers-parent-company-says-16-million-investment-will-lead-to-more-automated-jobs)
Quote from: Palehorse on December 06, 2016, 04:51:17 PM
Which means there will be 7 million dollars less in the budget over the next 10 years. . . And where do you think the state budget will get that 7 million dollar deficit made up exactly?
This is called "kicking the can" methodology . . . :kickcan:
So what is your suggestion? Do nothing? I'm not asking this in a sarcastic way.....part of me believes we (as taxpayers) should NOT be doing this. It seems like a "damned if you or damned if you don't" scenario....I know the re-investment is going to effect my company as we already do a great deal of work at carrier.......keeping Carrier here has an enormous effect on the local economy. Not just the people directly working for them. So on a personal level, it is good for me. For you, it may not have any effect....so, I understand.
Quote from: Exterminator on December 07, 2016, 08:03:57 AM
And from where do you think the money comes to cover that shortfall in the state's budget?
I know that we (Indiana) finished this year with a $50.6 million state surplus....
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 07, 2016, 09:02:19 AM
So what is your suggestion? Do nothing? I'm not asking this in a sarcastic way.....part of me believes we (as taxpayers) should NOT be doing this. It seems like a "damned if you or damned if you don't" scenario....I know the re-investment is going to effect my company as we already do a great deal of work at carrier.......keeping Carrier here has an enormous effect on the local economy. Not just the people directly working for them. So on a personal level, it is good for me. For you, it may not have any effect....so, I understand.
Yep, "It's good for me."a Yep, it's all about you. Butt Hole. :rolleyes:
Help me with this guys..........you are "Okay" with DOE loan program, costing taxpayers several billion dollars....where many of it's programs went bankrupt, but for Indiana to spend $7 mill over 10 years to KEEP business here and perhaps putting several million back into the local economy is bad?
Quote from: Locutus on December 06, 2016, 04:29:06 PM
Yep! You can read all about it here:
http://www.npr.org/2014/11/13/363572151/after-solyndra-loss-u-s-energy-loan-program-turning-a-profit
I also did some research and found an interesting article.......
http://www.heritage.org/research/testimony/examining-the-department-of-energys-loan-portfolio
Quote from: Palehorse on December 06, 2016, 08:42:36 PM
Because the "can" is always the least amongst us that pay the price, that is why not.
Corporate Amerika posts historic profit levels while the poor starve, die horrifically due to lack of medical care, and their ranks are growing exponentially.
A perfect example is big oil subsidization in this country. Why do we persist in giving them billions every single year while their bottom line increases exponentially? Wouldn't that money be far better spent in providing funding that feeds and cares for those who cannot provide for their families? In education of our people instead of drilling for profit? In paying back social security for the billions illegally taken from it by congress?
I was being sarcastic.
We need to push for taxing the rich, taxing the corporations and taxing the businesses,including rental properties, that the churches are getting with the Faith based funds, imho. Only THEN do we have a strong nation and not just another third world for the New World Order corporations to control.
Quote from: parkerdivine on December 07, 2016, 04:32:32 PM
I was being sarcastic.
We need to push for taxing the rich, taxing the corporations and taxing the businesses,including rental properties, that the churches are getting with the Faith based funds, imho. Only THEN do we have a strong nation and not just another third world for the New World Order corporations to control.
Well cancel all of those ideas, under Trump. :yes: Things are surely going to get better for the rich and the corporations. :trustme: :flag:
Quote from: The Troll on December 07, 2016, 05:58:53 PM
Well cancel all of those ideas, under Trump. :yes: Things are surely going to get better for the rich and the corporations. :trustme: :flag:
Amen brother! Pass the plate will yah? :wink: :biggrin:
Quote from: The Troll on December 07, 2016, 05:58:53 PM
Well cancel all of those ideas, under Trump. :yes: Things are surely going to get better for the rich and the corporations. :trustme: :flag:
Yeah, like all his overseas investments, the rich in this nation are willing to sacrifice our nation for the global economy..and a bigger piece of the pie. Makes you sick, doesn't it? :rant:
Why can't we just bury this stupid bitch Palin. :dig:
Quote from: The Troll on December 08, 2016, 04:02:09 PM
Why can't we just bury this stupid bitch Palin. :dig:
Because it would pollute the planet. :mad: