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Is Sarah Palin really this fuckin' stupid?

Started by Locutus, December 28, 2009, 06:05:24 PM

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Palehorse

Quote from: me on February 19, 2010, 07:49:17 PM
And since I didn't hear Rush's comment or her reason for excusing it nor did I hear the one that was made that she didn't excuse wouldn't it follow that I couldn't comment on that part of the conversation and that I was just commenting on the show and why she didn't take to that too well since I have heard other things which were said about her and her family?

Even before Kimmi brought it up Olias posted about it here:

Quote from: Olias on February 18, 2010, 02:18:18 PM
Another example of said behavior ...

"In March, she came roaring out when President Obama joked on late night TV that his bowling skills were like the Special Olympics.

Palin wasn't wrong about the inappropriateness of the remark, for which the president apologized to the Special Olympics before the segment aired. But were her objections primarily those of a wounded mother -- or those of a heat-seeking politician? Will we be hearing from Palin every time someone uses the R-word or makes a lame joke?

Well, no, not every time. When Rush Limbaugh used "retard," suggesting a "retard summit" at the White House, it was "satirical," Palin recently explained to her Fox News colleague, Chris Wallace. When Emanuel used it, it was name-calling. It isn't clear whether Palin considered Rush's memorable mimicry of Michael J. Fox's "fake" Parkinson's disease symptoms another demonstration of satire or mere hideous cruelty.

Given that Palin obviously made an excuse for Limbaugh, whose stab at humor was nothing resembling satire, means that her "teachable moment" via Emanuel was really using her child as a political tool."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/12/AR2010021204006_2.html?sid=ST2010021202633

And since it was the last post on the page, and I had something to add to it, I quoted it at the top of the very next page. . . but you had tone lock on the IQ argument.
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Palehorse

Quote from: Palehorse on February 11, 2010, 03:17:48 PM
:biggrin: Apparently she's even dumber than most of us thought:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/02/11/roland.martin.palin/index.html?hpt=T2


And I posted about this very same thing way back on page 15!

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(CNN) -- Sarah Palin's most ardent supporters in "real America" love to suggest that those of us who don't buy into her shtick fail to grasp why they love her, citing her realness, plain-spokenness and whatever else they can conjure up.
Folks, nice try, but as a native Texan, I've seen many politicians and wannabes over the years who had charm, wit, charisma and a twinkle in their eye.
Anyone who has listened to the best football coaches the Lone Star State has to offer will tell you that they can persuade a mother and father to send their boy to hell to fetch a glass of ice water and bring him home a better man. They could teach a politician or two how to connect with average Americans.
You want a media darling politician with substance? Try the late Gov. Ann Richards, a woman who could cut you deep and beam ear-to-ear with her motherly smile. But unlike Palin, she had a host of strong ideas in her head that actually made sense and appealed to a cross-section of folks.
So [Rahm] Emanuel and [Rush] Limbaugh used the word 'retard'... but only Rahm was wrong?
--Roland Martin, CNN political analyst
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Sarah Palin
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Former Rep. Charlie Wilson, who died this week, was a smooth-talking Texan who loved to party hard. But when it came to politics, he knew how to get things done. The media loved him because he could sit with you and enjoy a beer over barbecue, give them a hilarious quote or two, and explain foreign policy better than Henry Kissinger.
Why haven't I cottoned to Palin? Because she portrays herself as a straight-talking politician who wants to lead a movement in the "Lower 48th" -- but is nothing more than a political celebrity willing to cash every check she can grab.
What truly exposed her for me? It was the ridiculous way she reacted in opposing ways last week to two political heavyweights who used the word "retard."
When it was reported that President Obama's chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, told a group of liberals that they were "f-----g retards" for threatening to run ads against fellow Democrats who weren't jumping on the health care reform bandwagon, Palin demanded his resignation.
As the mother of a child with Down syndrome, Palin has often used her bully pulpit to demand respect for the mentally challenged. Nothing wrong with that. It is an issue that is close to her heart, and she should be a fierce advocate for them.
Yet when one of her biggest supporters, conservative radio talk-show host Rush Limbaugh, also castigated liberals by calling them "retards," Palin provided him cover, even trying to explain away his comments.
In an interview with Fox News Channel's Chris Wallace, she said Limbaugh was using satire, while Emanuel was blasting those who disagree with him. But anyone who can read or listen could hear Limbaugh calling folks he disagrees with the same. Palin even went further, agreeing with Limbaugh that liberals are "kooks."
So Emanuel and Limbaugh used the word "retard" to describe folks they disagree with, but only Rahm was wrong? Yep, that's how it is in Palin's world. The advocate for the mentally challenged was quick to pounce on someone she disagrees with politically but defended her patron saint, Rush.
Sarah, when you hold yourself up as a fierce protector of the mentally challenged, politics shouldn't enter into the equation. Either you criticize everyone who uses a word that you consider a slur, or you come across as a crass politician who is afraid to offend your chief booster.
Maybe you ought to listen to your spokeswoman, Meghan Stapleton, who thought you cared about the mentally challenged when she sent this e-mail to HotAir.com about Limbaugh's comment: "Gov. Palin believes crude and demeaning name-calling at the expense of others is disrespectful."
But knowing that wouldn't sit well with Rush, you backed off and gave him cover.
If you were true to your cause, you would have demanded an on-air apology from Limbaugh and scolded him for using the word. Instead, you showed your true colors.
Sarah, I haven't bought into your fake "I'm-a-real-American" persona. You slam the president for using teleprompters, but write crib notes on your hand to remember basic beliefs that should be easy to regurgitate.
You decry the "lamestream" media, but you bask in its glory and have joined its payroll as a Fox News contributor, even having the network build a studio in your home. Talk about media elite.
You give a speech riddled with falsehoods about the president and national security, and then try to shrug them off as the "lamestream" media attacking you.
You don't fool me, even as your legion of fans considers you the second coming of President Reagan. You quit on the people who elected you to become a political celebrity, which your presidential running mate blasted then-Sen. Barack Obama for doing.
You had the opportunity to show everyone that you're willing to take on anyone who crosses the line against those who are mentally challenged, and you failed.
Please, make as much money as you can. Paraphrasing comedian Martin Lawrence, ride this train until the wheels fall off. But please, cut the crap. You're a crass politician with no true conviction. Your actions have shown that.
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followsthewolf

Quote from: me on February 19, 2010, 08:08:55 PM
Ya know I think, since I did hear a clip of the show in question, I could comment on that part and since I had heard the many other things that have been said and jokes and put downs about her and her family I can pretty well comment on that part and voice an opinion about why she might have been so upset about the show.  Did I not say I cannot comment on the Rush part of it when that was brought up?

The whole enchilada was on the table and all the incidents were intertwined......and then you wanted to unring the bell.

They were intertwined because of the compare/contrast argument.

It is intellectual dishonesty to select a small part of a larger topic and defend it like a terrier while professing ignorance of the rest of the topic.

That's exactly the same dishonesty bush used when he proclaimed "Mission Accomplished." He was able to declare victory where there was none. Like saying "We won the game" at the end of the first quarter of a football game.
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me

Quote from: Palehorse on February 19, 2010, 08:10:18 PM
Even before Kimmi brought it up Olias posted about it here:

And since it was the last post on the page, and I had something to add to it, I quoted it at the top of the very next page. . . but you had tone lock on the IQ argument.
:groan:  Oh ya, she said Rush's comment was about a thing not a person or group of people which was different.  I do remember that now and I kind of understand where she was coming from on that but still can't really judge it since I didn't hear the comment to know if he was calling the summit retarded or the people who attended it and if he made the comment about the attendees he was wrong to have done so and no, she shouldn't have given him a pass but if it was the summit itself he was referring to that is different.  Now Obama was saying that about a group of people because I did hear that comment and thought it was rather crude. 
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followsthewolf

Obama?

What the he!! are you talking about?

Obama didn't make the comment.


Ahhhhhhh......I'm going to bed and watch "Troy."

Yawn.
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Palehorse

All Obama did was rate his bowling ability as being within the special olympics capacity. . . crude, perhaps, but not necessarily a put down to anyone but himself. But Palin went thermo nuclear over it.

"When Rahm Emanuel told a bunch of liberals they were "fucking retards" for threatening to run ads against fellow Democrats who weren't jumping on the health care reform bandwagon, Palin demanded his resignation."

"Yet when one of her biggest supporters, conservative radio talk-show host Rush Limbaugh, also castigated liberals by calling them "retards," Palin provided him cover, even trying to explain away his comments."

Palin even went further, agreeing with Limbaugh that liberals are "kooks."

Now, bring in the family guy incident and you can see how hypocritical and crass this woman is. She will stoop to anything to obtain press time for herself. I think she may very well be retarded herself!


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me

Quote from: Palehorse on February 19, 2010, 08:48:58 PM
All Obama did was rate his bowling ability as being within the special olympics capacity. . . crude, perhaps, but not necessarily a put down to anyone but himself. But Palin went thermo nuclear over it.

"When Rahm Emanuel told a bunch of liberals they were "fucking retards" for threatening to run ads against fellow Democrats who weren't jumping on the health care reform bandwagon, Palin demanded his resignation."

"Yet when one of her biggest supporters, conservative radio talk-show host Rush Limbaugh, also castigated liberals by calling them "retards," Palin provided him cover, even trying to explain away his comments."

Palin even went further, agreeing with Limbaugh that liberals are "kooks."

Now, bring in the family guy incident and you can see how hypocritical and crass this woman is. She will stoop to anything to obtain press time for herself. I think she may very well be retarded herself!
Ya know, all this politically correct stuff is just plain crazy if you really think about it.  A comment like any of these that was made 20yrs ago was just that, a comment, now it's almost a federal offense and here we are all caught up in it like a bunch of biting sows, no offense to sows intended.  If you really stop and think about it do you realize how ridiculous this is on all parts including mine?  Yes, I'm including Sarah Palin in this too because it is all just a bunch of BS. 
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Palehorse

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6919701682068709550#

You can watch the POTUS's comments on the Jay Leno show at the link above. He was joking, clearly, and making fun of himself and not anyone or anything else. CLEARLY.
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me

Quote from: Palehorse on February 19, 2010, 09:03:15 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6919701682068709550#

You can watch the POTUS's comments on the Jay Leno show at the link above. He was joking, clearly, and making fun of himself and not anyone or anything else. CLEARLY.
I had watched a video of his remark and I do realize he was making fun of his capabilities as a bowler which, like I stated, would not even have been an issue 20yrs ago but now it has become a big deal for anyone to say not only Obama.  I guess I really need to go back maybe even 25yrs because 20yrs ago it was a no no to say walk in closet  when advertising a house because it might insult someone who couldn't walk even though it was describing a large closet and nothing more.  The whole thing is BS and detracts from what really matters and both sides do it.  Do you realize if one were to spend as much time on real issues instead of this tripe something might just get figured out? 
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kimmi

Quote from: me on February 19, 2010, 08:35:35 PM
:groan:  Oh ya, she said Rush's comment was about a thing not a person or group of people which was different.  I do remember that now and I kind of understand where she was coming from on that but still can't really judge it since I didn't hear the comment to know if he was calling the summit retarded or the people who attended it and if he made the comment about the attendees he was wrong to have done so and no, she shouldn't have given him a pass but if it was the summit itself he was referring to that is different.  Now Obama was saying that about a group of people because I did hear that comment and thought it was rather crude.


Hold up!  Didn't rush call Liberals retarded and Obama talk about his bowling skill which is a thing retarded?  I think you have that backwards ME.
Take time to smell the roses.

me

Quote from: kimmi on February 19, 2010, 10:50:14 PM

Hold up!  Didn't rush call Liberals retarded and Obama talk about his bowling skill which is a thing retarded?  I think you have that backwards ME.
Oopsi, read what I said again.  I said I didn't hear Rush's comment and if he made it about the summit being retarded it was about a thing and if he made it about the attendees it was wrong and he shouldn't have been given a pass. And then read the post right above yours.

QuoteQuote from: me on Today at 08:35:35 PM

    :groan:  Oh ya, she said Rush's comment was about a thing not a person or group of people which was different.  I do remember that now and I kind of understand where she was coming from on that but still can't really judge it since I didn't hear the comment to know if he was calling the summit retarded or the people who attended it and if he made the comment about the attendees he was wrong to have done so and no, she shouldn't have given him a pass but if it was the summit itself he was referring to that is different.  Now Obama was saying that about a group of people because I did hear that comment and thought it was rather crude.

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Sandy Eggo

I think this discussion is retarded :spooked: :biggrin:


(Think Palin will tap into the Zone and defend her son now? ;D I personally think that she's using her son's disability as a platform to get attention for herself as evidenced by the way she picks and chooses who offends her).
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Palehorse

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 20, 2010, 12:59:33 PM
I think this discussion is retarded :spooked: :biggrin:


(Think Palin will tap into the Zone and defend her son now? ;D I personally think that she's using her son's disability as a platform to get attention for herself as evidenced by the way she picks and chooses who offends her).

:biggrin: Indeed!

She's a retarded attention whore!  :biggrin:
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

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Exterminator

Quote from: me on February 19, 2010, 04:59:46 PM
On national TV every day and on the news constantly by reporters plus having her daughters ridiculed and made the butt of tasteless jokes?

Wouldn't happen if her daughter wasn't a cum guzzling gutter slut.
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Quote from: Palehorse on February 20, 2010, 01:14:16 PM
:biggrin: Indeed!

She's a retarded attention whore!  :biggrin:

well she sure has captivated YOUR guy's attention... :biggrin:
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