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Whistling ducks!!  :mad: :mad: :mad:  These fuckers were fighting in the back yard at 6:00 AM this morning.  Loud whistling, jumping up in the air, feathers flying.  :mad: :mad:  Worse than waking up to an alarm clock. 

The most annoying species of duck ever!

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Maple-Glazed Duck Breasts

Ingredients:

Duck breasts, sliced in cubes with the grain of the muscle

Pepper

8 tbsp. maple syrup

8 tbsp. (1 stick) of butter, melted

Instructions:

1. Cube duck breasts and thread onto skewers. Season liberally with pepper.

2. Mix together maple syrup and melted butter. Brush mixture onto skewered duck.

3. Grill until medium rare, basting regularly. Be careful not to overcook.

:biggrin:

LMFAO!!!  :rotfl:

PERFECT response!!   :biggrin: :biggrin:

We have a problem with Canadian geese here in Northern Virginia. They are so graceful and beautiful ... until ... you decide to take a walk and -- I used to walk through a nice retirement community  -- beautiful place -- wide sidewalks, perfect place to walk, but I kept wondering what kind of people would walk their dogs and let them poop on the sidewalks and not clean it up. Was stunned to find it was the geese. There's a pond in the community also and they can be seen walking with their young -- charmng, until you -- uh, oh -- watch out! Too late  :rant:

When I see them they're usually doing this:

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My place of employment is a wildlife sanctuary, and we have, literally, thousands of them.

It's a virtual minefield, iffen ya know whut ah mean.

Quote from: followsthewolf on February 03, 2013, 08:05:31 AM
My place of employment is a wildlife sanctuary, and we have, literally, thousands of them.

It's a virtual minefield, iffen ya know whut ah mean.

:lol:  Ah do!

Quote from: libby on February 03, 2013, 10:40:35 AM
    :lol:  Ah do!

Poop is Poop!

;D

Best regards,
Duke (knee deep) Jupiter

Profound revelation.

Websites that automatically play audio or video immediately upon landing on the site.  :mad: :mad: :mad:

I hate that! 

I totally agree.

My biggest gripe? People who volunteer to help with something and never follow through. WTH is wrong with those people?

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 09, 2013, 06:20:00 PM
My biggest gripe? People who volunteer to help with something and never follow through. WTH is wrong with those people?

There is a large segment of the population who do that, both on in volunteer situation, and in a paid work situation.  I'm of a mind that if you don't want to do something that I ask you to do, either on a volunteer basis or for remuneration, then simply say so.  Don't beat around the bush, say you're going to do it, and then 3 or 4 weeks later I find that it hasn't been done, and you're now avoiding my phone calls.  It's far easier just to say no straight out of the gate, but I guess some can't seem to do that.

 :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Quote from: Palehorse on February 17, 2013, 01:20:38 PM
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Looks like someone didn't have a good day. 

Quote from: me on February 17, 2013, 07:52:10 PM
Looks like someone didn't have a good day.

No. But I did get to take a stroll down memory lane for a bit, and briefly relive a better period in my life.

Quote from: Palehorse on February 17, 2013, 09:39:37 PM
No. But I did get to take a stroll down memory lane for a bit, and briefly relive a better period in my life.

Sometimes that's a good thing and sometimes not so. 

More budget drama. When the hell are congressional representatives going to understand that they are supposed to get this crap done BEFORE a deadline looms?  :mad:

Maybe, if they were fined for not doing their jobs, and then fired, they would be more willing to get it done.

Quote from: Palehorse on February 27, 2013, 12:39:20 PM
More budget drama. When the hell are congressional representatives going to understand that they are supposed to get this crap done BEFORE a deadline looms?  :mad:

:lipsrsealed2:

Quote from: Palehorse on February 27, 2013, 12:39:20 PM
More budget drama. When the hell are congressional representatives going to understand that they are supposed to get this crap done BEFORE a deadline looms?  :mad:

I think it is human nature, you would be surprised how many calls we get about energy assistance from people who say they need it now because they are going to turn off the electricity or gas today or tomorrow.

Quote from: Palehorse on February 27, 2013, 12:39:20 PM
More budget drama. When the hell are congressional representatives going to understand that they are supposed to get this crap done BEFORE a deadline looms?  :mad:

Call it lack of leadership in the oval office...

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 27, 2013, 01:54:16 PM
Call it lack of leadership in the oval office...

More like lack of accountability at the congressional level if you ask me.  :rant:

Quote from: Anne on February 27, 2013, 01:45:09 PM
I think it is human nature, you would be surprised how many calls we get about energy assistance from people who say they need it now because they are going to turn off the electricity or gas today or tomorrow.

One would expect that highly educated individuals making 6 figure salaries would be capable of avoiding behaviors like that.

Quote from: followsthewolf on February 27, 2013, 12:52:57 PM
Maybe, if they were fined for not doing their jobs, and then fired, they would be more willing to get it done.

I'm with you on this one! NO accountability what-so-ever!  :rant:

Ideopathic interstitial diffuse pulmonary fibrosis sucks.

Quote from: followsthewolf on March 05, 2013, 01:56:46 PM
Ideopathic interstitial diffuse pulmonary fibrosis sucks.

I just googled this, and it does indeed SUCK.  I hope YOU are not a victim of this.

Unfortunately, yes.

Quote from: followsthewolf on March 05, 2013, 03:35:08 PM
Unfortunately, yes.

Sorry to hear that, I wish you the best on dealing with that disease......

Sorry, FTW, that does suck.

Quote from: followsthewolf on March 05, 2013, 01:56:46 PM
Ideopathic interstitial diffuse pulmonary fibrosis sucks.

  In your younger day did you pick up this disease for any of your work where you breathed in fumes or dust.  Every time I get to feeling sorry for myself if find someone who is worse than me. 

  May I say that you have some success and relief from your lung problem.   :yes:

Sorry to hear that FTW. 

Quote from: The Troll on March 05, 2013, 09:28:25 PM
  In your younger day did you pick up this disease for any of your work where you breathed in fumes or dust.  Every time I get to feeling sorry for myself if find someone who is worse than me. 

  May I say that you have some success and relief from your lung problem.   :yes:

Even the researchers don't know that. I'm part of a study they are conducting now to determine genetic and environmental factors that may be causal.

Very little is known about the disease.

Like the rest of corporate America, if there isn't any money in it, it isn't worth studying.

Fortunately for those who come after me, there is a dedicated team at the University of Pittsburgh that is working on it.

Ole' FTW, Ole' Duke is hopin' that your health improves steadily and the University finds a way to cure you or bring you substanial relief.

Best regards,
Duke (one day at a time) Jupiter

Many thanks to you, duke, and all the rest of the forum members who expressed their hopes for my health.

We shall see.

FTW:

You know my feelings on your health challenges and of my steadfast support and hopes for progress in your case.

It is unconscionable that situations like the one that inflicted this thing upon you are allowed to transpire in this nation even today.  :mad:

You are an outstanding human-being and a gentleman; rare in this day and age. Know that I am here to do whatever I can to help out when needed, and until then keep on keeping on brother!  :yes:

Thanks, PH.

Appreciate the good thoughts and the friendship over the years.

Quote from: followsthewolf on March 06, 2013, 12:16:16 PM
Thanks, PH.

Appreciate the good thoughts and the friendship over the years.

No thanks necessary my friend, but you are quite welcome.

And I am looking forward to many more years of friendship!  :yes: :yes: :yes:

  This :mad:  is for the "idiopathic" part of your diagnosis. And here is a (hug) and wishes for improving health and happiness, my friend. 

Thanks a bunch, Libby.

Have enjoyed your posting, young lady.

 :yes:

Quote from: followsthewolf on March 06, 2013, 03:19:56 PM
Thanks a bunch, Libby.

Have enjoyed your posting, young lady.

Thank you. I feel the same about yours. :flwr: 

FTW - Unali! Unali!

From the first I knew you, you have been Unali!

Trust in your spirit.

Olias, my friend, I thank you for uplifting me when I need it.

Long time.

FTW, I can't imagine what you're going through, but I wish you the very best.  I enjoy your posts every time I read them, as I do with all of the regulars that stop by here every day.  This is our online coffee shop of sorts where we stop by, say hello, and discuss the goings on in the world.  Hell, we may even solve a problem here or there if we try really hard.  ;D

I value your voice, your intellect, and your contributions to our interactions here.  Stay strong!  We need you here!

 :yes: This coffee shop has a unique group of regulars, and I, as a newbie, feel fortunate that you welcomed me in.

Unique is a pleasant way to put it..... ;D  ... even though it gets rough sometimes, it is ALL good.....despite the messed up thinking by some, I like'em.  Good people... :yes:

Quote from: libby on March 07, 2013, 10:10:35 AM
:yes: This coffee shop has a unique group of regulars, and I, as a newbie, feel fortunate that you welcomed me in.

Pffft! You earned it mam!  :yes: :smile:

Quote from: Palehorse on March 09, 2013, 01:51:16 AM
Pffft! You earned it mam!  :yes: :smile:

Thank you Sir. :smile:

Quote from: followsthewolf on February 27, 2013, 12:52:57 PM
Maybe, if they were fined for not doing their jobs, and then fired, they would be more willing to get it done.

You have my vote! When does your campaign start? ;D

Quote from: libby on March 07, 2013, 10:10:35 AM
:yes: This coffee shop has a unique group of regulars, and I, as a newbie, feel fortunate that you welcomed me in.

Not that I'm around very much lately, but you've always been one of my favorite posters. You offer such level-headed, calm and logical thoughts that bring balance to rest of us who may be....er....excitable. ;D

I love these guys though, despite our differences, we've been together for years and I've always perferred the "company" here. :yes:

What time's the campfire tonight and whose turn is it to lead us in Kumbaya?  :rotfl:  :icon_twisted:

Oh wait! This isn't supposed to be a touchy feely thread!


I have a situation where someone in authority is keeping me out of the loop. I've discovered that it isnt just me, but other people who should have information regarding their customers that he isn't sharing. The dilemma is that we don't have enough information to do a specific job and then we look stupid because we don't have the information. We spin our wheels and then when we go back to our organization for either a status update or to get more info, their reaciton is, "you should have known XYZ" and therefore the delay caused by not knowing is unacceptable. :mad: I've talked to this supervisor about this issue a few times. I still can't figure out if he is intentially keeping the information from us or if he's just scatter-brained. He won't give me information to share with my team, but then he'll walk past every team member to get to my desk to ask me to gather the team. Really? You pay me to be an assistant? When you actually have an assistant who isn't me and is paid less? I've informally elevated the concern (his boss is a former supervisor of mine) and it's known that he's dropping the ball, but apparently there's other priorities right now. Meanwhile, my team is suffering.

I decided to bypass him and go to his sources. I will share information and if he gets upset, then I'll remind him of our previous conversations and explain how we got to this point.

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on March 10, 2013, 09:27:34 PM
Not that I'm around very much lately, but you've always been one of my favorite posters. You offer such level-headed, calm and logical thoughts that bring balance to rest of us who may be....er....excitable. ;D

I love these guys though, despite our differences, we've been together for years and I've always perferred the "company" here. :yes:

Sandy, right back at you. As for you and "these guys," it's the differences in personality, the intelligence, the different ways of thinking and expressing and interacting that sometimes make me laugh out loud or stop and think  :eek: or  :smitten: or  :spooked: or :yes: 

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on March 10, 2013, 09:27:34 PM
Not that I'm around very much lately,. . .

Yeah umm. . . about that Ms Eggo. . . What are we, chopped liver?  :'(

Quote from: Palehorse on March 10, 2013, 09:30:06 PM
What time's the campfire tonight and whose turn is it to lead us in Kumbaya?  :rotfl:  :icon_twisted:

This is a bitch thread dammit!   :mad:  ;D

Quote from: Palehorse on March 10, 2013, 11:44:57 PM
Yeah umm. . . about that Ms Eggo. . . What are we, chopped liver?  :'(

No! I love you guys! (*wait! Bitch thread :think:*) dammit! :biggrin:

Okay. . . When is spring supposed to be here?  :rolleyes:

Drama addicts. Seriously they seem to get high on the stuff and in their emotionally clouded mind, think the rest of us enjoy that crap. If they kept it to themselves, I wouldn't care, but its kinda hard to have a drama party alone, I guess. ;D

Sometimes poverty is a good thing. At least you don't have to read about it on Facebook.  :rolleyes:

You post on topic, and then someone screws it all up with some off topic comment. . .  :mad:

I hate when people don't understand the difference between words such as "our" and "are" or "one" and "won". Judgmental? Maybe. But they're effing stupid.

Maybe it's auto-correct!  ;D

Quote from: Locutus on June 07, 2013, 01:14:26 PM
Maybe it's auto-correct!  ;D

:biggrin:

I doubt it in this case, but you've got a point lol I fight autocorrect at times. :yes: ;D

Then again, there's times I say, "screw it, they know what I'm trying to say" but it reads like a Nigerian scam letter. lol

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 07, 2013, 02:55:45 PM
:biggrin:

I doubt it in this case, but you've got a point lol I fight autocorrect at times. :yes: ;D

Then again, there's times I say, "screw it, they know what I'm trying to say" but it reads like a Nigerian scam letter. lol

Too bad there isn't an option to shut it off.  Or is there and it's just that no one does?

You can shut it off.  At least you can on the iPhone.  :yes:

Quote from: Locutus on June 07, 2013, 07:07:48 PM
You can shut it off.  At least you can on the iPhone.  :yes:

I know, but as much as I complain it does more good than evil ;D

Quote from: me on June 07, 2013, 04:43:47 PM
Too bad there isn't an option to shut it off.  Or is there and it's just that no one does?

Pretty much the second one. On the BB it waited for approval. The iPhone makes command decisions sometimes lol

Tonight I watched "Rock of Ages" on demand. I'm glad that I waited until it was free and as a matter-of-fact it was SO horrible that I almost feel like calling Cox cable and asking for my money back. ;D if you are a fan of hair bands at all, then save yourself the agony and do something more interesting with your time like watching paint dry. I did watch the whole thing because i enjoyed the soundtrack (despite the fact that none of the songs were sang by original artists and were used to turn the movie into a rock-n-roll musical).

Really, really bad :puke:

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 23, 2013, 09:51:15 PM
Tonight I watched "Rock of Ages" on demand. I'm glad that I waited until it was free and as a matter-of-fact it was SO horrible that I almost feel like calling Cox cable and asking for my money back. ;D if you are a fan of hair bands at all, then save yourself the agony and do something more interesting with your time like watching paint dry. I did watch the whole thing because i enjoyed the soundtrack (despite the fact that none of the songs were sang by original artists and were used to turn the movie into a rock-n-roll musical).

Really, really bad :puke:

Sure am glad you posted about this 'cause I might have bought it otherwise.  Won't bother now..... :no:

You assholes that drive around at night with your bright lights / hi beams on deserve to be horsewhipped. You blind every single motorcyclist out there at night, making it impossible to see those dead raccoons, opossums, or anything outside of the white line at the shoulder.  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Dim your lights when oncoming traffic is present you asshats!  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

I hate it when I drive a car - I don't ride my bike anymore due to my health.

The new piercingly bright bulbs coupled with folks never having their headlights aimed correctly, and then driving around with their brights on is absolutely blinding.

One is lucky to be able to see the white line at the edge of the road - if it's even there.

Somehow, I've found myself in the business of motivating people to workout. I organize weekly free workouts on Saturday mornings. It's hot, it's summer and I'm having trouble organizing free instructors because they're on vacation or the time slot isn't working out. We don't have an indoors location anyway, so with the temps, it's a bad idea. Soooo I put the free "organized" workouts on hold until late August. I keep information about classes (fees involved) and I have offered to walk, run or attend a class with anyone as long as it fits into my schedule. I don't get paid for this, it's a labor of love. Soooo I had one of the other nutrition coaches scold me tonight because her client is complaining that she's losing motivation and needs the Saturday morning classes. My response? Volunteer to walk with her or go to a class with her? I volunteered the same for all of the fit club participants and no one had taken me up on it. After the coach got her face together she said, she doesn't want to go to any of the classes because they cost money. I pointed out that many of them are only a $5 drop in fee. She just shook her head. I said, "then it looks like you need to arrange a group walk with your clients". She laughed and said, "that's not my thing".  So, if her client falls off the wagon, it's my fault? No, it's her client's  fault for making excuses, but it pisses me off that this other coach would enable her like that.

Seriously, any of these other coaches can pick up the ball and run with it, but they stand back and let me do it. I don't mind, because I love to help people, but I think I've put myself in a position to be used.

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on July 19, 2013, 10:19:17 PM
Somehow, I've found myself in the business of motivating people to workout. I organize weekly free workouts on Saturday mornings. It's hot, it's summer and I'm having trouble organizing free instructors because they're on vacation or the time slot isn't working out. We don't have an indoors location anyway, so with the temps, it's a bad idea. Soooo I put the free "organized" workouts on hold until late August. I keep information about classes (fees involved) and I have offered to walk, run or attend a class with anyone as long as it fits into my schedule. I don't get paid for this, it's a labor of love. Soooo I had one of the other nutrition coaches scold me tonight because her client is complaining that she's losing motivation and needs the Saturday morning classes. My response? Volunteer to walk with her or go to a class with her? I volunteered the same for all of the fit club participants and no one had taken me up on it. After the coach got her face together she said, she doesn't want to go to any of the classes because they cost money. I pointed out that many of them are only a $5 drop in fee. She just shook her head. I said, "then it looks like you need to arrange a group walk with your clients". She laughed and said, "that's not my thing".  So, if her client falls off the wagon, it's my fault? No, it's her client's  fault for making excuses, but it pisses me off that this other coach would enable her like that.

Seriously, any of these other coaches can pick up the ball and run with it, but they stand back and let me do it. I don't mind, because I love to help people, but I think I've put myself in a position to be used.

"... I think I've put myself in a position to be used."   :yes: ... sometimes it's hard to find a happy medium.

Quote from: Y on July 18, 2013, 04:40:23 PM
I hate it when I drive a car - I don't ride my bike anymore due to my health.

The new piercingly bright bulbs coupled with folks never having their headlights aimed correctly, and then driving around with their brights on is absolutely blinding.

One is lucky to be able to see the white line at the edge of the road - if it's even there.

Yes, that white line.  I keep my eyes on it "if it's there." I have glaucoma in one eye, so it's hard for me to drive at night because of the bright headlights, coming towards me or close behind me.   The worst for me is a rainy dark night and I have to drive somewhere. 

You're right. I needed to blow off steam so I posted here ;D and now I can approach the other coaches and the clients and gently push them towards helping each other and themselves. :yes:

I think what set me off was the admonishment in the other coach's voice that sounded a lot like, " you don't know what this hiatus is doing to people." It irked me because she's a coach and therefore a total wellness resource (that includes fitness) yet it didn't occur to her to support/motivate her client herself.

I'm over it :biggrin:

The bottom line is helping people. When we try new things were scared, we make excuses and we hesitate. I know this and need to be patient with the ones who are struggling or stepping outside that comfort zone. I also need to remember that they are developing a new lifestyle and may need nudges in the right direction to do it independently or start a group. I need to figure out the best way to do this and not lose focus because a couple are clingy. I've always had trouble with that in any capacity. So more personal development for me.


The lazy-ass coach can kiss mine :azz: :biggrin:

I have been a loner all my life. Doesn't mean I've lived alone; means I gave up trying to change others or even start a new conversation; the reward is that once in a while I meet a kindred spirit and oh my  :happy:  I treasure those moments and those people. Maybe that's why I like this forum. Seems like some free spirits here.

Quote from: libby on July 20, 2013, 12:28:34 PM
I have been a loner all my life. Doesn't mean I've lived alone; means I gave up trying to change others or even start a new conversation; the reward is that once in a while I meet a kindred spirit and oh my  :happy:  I treasure those moments and those people. Maybe that's why I like this forum. Seems like some free spirits here.

:ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost:

:spooked:  ;D

Quote from: libby on July 20, 2013, 12:28:34 PM
I have been a loner all my life. Doesn't mean I've lived alone; means I gave up trying to change others or even start a new conversation; the reward is that once in a while I meet a kindred spirit and oh my  :happy:  I treasure those moments and those people. Maybe that's why I like this forum. Seems like some free spirits here.

Actually, that pretty much describes me as well. This past couple years I've been experimenting with the boundaries of my comfort zone and I've made some significant and rewarding changes as a result. I ventured into wellness coaching knowing full well that I'd be uncomfortable. Not with people so much as learning too much about them. Honestly my frustration is probably more because I should have gone with my gut on this one. Perhaps this was an envelope that didn't need to be pushed. That said, I've already started the back step. I'll continue to help, but as I mentioned above...to a point and then let go. :)

Quote from: Locutus on July 20, 2013, 09:31:20 PM
:ghost: :ghost: :ghost: :ghost:

:spooked:  ;D

:yes:

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on July 21, 2013, 07:32:53 PM
Actually, that pretty much describes me as well. This past couple years I've been experimenting with the boundaries of my comfort zone and I've made some significant and rewarding changes as a result. I ventured into wellness coaching knowing full well that I'd be uncomfortable. Not with people so much as learning too much about them. Honestly my frustration is probably more because I should have gone with my gut on this one. Perhaps this was an envelope that didn't need to be pushed. That said, I've already started the back step. I'll continue to help, but as I mentioned above...to a point and then let go. :)

It took me a while to figure that out -- but when I did I found I was much happier on the path I had chosen.

I can't stand it when people post something as fact without researching it's accuracy. I also can't stand it when people pair something without giving credit to the original source. :mad:

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Anyone else think all of these gas price analysts who try and tell you where gas prices are heading don't have a fucking clue what they're talking about?

Quote from: Locutus on January 10, 2014, 12:59:52 PM
Anyone else think all of these gas price analysts who try and tell you where gas prices are heading don't have a fucking clue what they're talking about?

I agree, there is NO lgical rhyme or reason.....I wonder how much they get paid to make these analaysis'

They probably pull them out of their anal cavity.  :yes:

 ;D ;D ;D

The Colts better pull something out of their anal-cavity for this second half or they'll let Brady go play with Peyton. . . AGAIN!

Time tuh do muh SNOW dance!

       

Quote from: Palehorse on February 03, 2014, 08:29:47 PM
Time tuh do muh SNOW dance!

   

:007: :007: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :gha: :gha: :gha: :gha: :gha: :gha: :gha: :gha: :gha: :gha:

  No More Snow Dancing, Horse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


             Horse ----------> :kick: <--------- The rest of us.   :groan:

Time tuh do muh SNOW dance!

            

 :rolleyes:

Quote from: me on February 06, 2014, 07:02:02 PM
:rolleyes:

Careful. . . you know what happens when you do that. Do you really want ice on top of what we have?  :icon_twisted:

Quote from: Palehorse on February 06, 2014, 07:15:38 PM
Careful. . . you know what happens when you do that. Do you really want ice on top of what we have?  :icon_twisted:

I know but there are some things I really have to do this weekend and snow won't be conducive to getting it done. 

PH - I think your jig has caused all kinds of troubles from Indiana eastbound. ;D


My random bitch? Passive aggressiveness. Just pick one! :mad:

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 12, 2014, 11:18:06 AM
PH - I think your jig has caused all kinds of troubles from Indiana eastbound. ;D


My random bitch? Passive aggressiveness. Just pick one! :mad:

I got powerful moves!  :biggrin:

Some people need to go back to driving school. I watched some dumb-ass try to pass TWO County Sheriff vehicles, that had someone pulled over right outside my home, on a snow-narrowed road bordered by 3 foot snow banks.

The stupid ass hat got stuck, (surprise  :roll eyes: ), and then backed her mini-van deeper into the snow bank and onto my neighbors parkway in the process.  :rotfl:

The cops had her rattled. . .  :icon_twisted:  But all she had to do was go around the block and avoid the traffic stop in the first place.

Bluehairs. Enough said!  :mad:

 ;D

It's snow, not lava. Drive you friggin blue hairs ; DRIVE!  :rant:

Time tuh do muh SNOW dance!

            

Well, seems like it's working here in the D.C. metro area.   :eek:  Forecasters say we're going from a mild day today to rain this evening (already raining) to sleet and ?ice tonight to all snow tomorrow -- 5 to 10 inches some say.  :spooked:

Meanwhile, here in Fort Lauderdale, ....... oh never mind!   :icon_twisted:

Quote from: Locutus on March 02, 2014, 07:55:27 PM
Meanwhile, here in Fort Lauderdale, ....... oh never mind!   :icon_twisted:

:poke: :kick:

 

Okay, it's currently 75 balmy degrees. 

:surf: :uns: :island:

:biggrin:

 :chair: :devil4:

Quote from: Locutus on March 02, 2014, 09:01:59 PM


Okay, it's currently 75 balmy degrees. 

:surf: :uns: :island:

:biggrin:

Well, its time to start playing clock games again. Just when my sleep pattern gets into a rhythm the damned asshats in control of our clocks decide it's time to spring or fall. . . This is such bullshit!  :rant:

Quote from: Palehorse on March 09, 2014, 09:25:25 AM
Well, its time to start playing clock games again. Just when my sleep pattern gets into a rhythm the damned asshats in control of our cocks decide it's time to spring or fall. . . This is such bullshit!  :rant:

:eek: I think you missed a letter there PH..... lol

There is a never ending supply of media generated propaganda out, currently in support of daylight savings time. What a bunch of hogwash!

It doesn't automagically "give us an extra hour of daylight". The sun doesn't follow humankind's watches or clocks. Never has, and never will. We get the same amount of daylight as the time of year and seasonal cycle determines.

If one is determined to "obtain the benefit of additional sunlight", then all one has to do is get up earlier and stay up later. Why all of this damned clock shenanigans?  :rant:

As I've said time and time again, the only thing it does is exacerbate sleep issues for those suffering from the malady.  :rant:

Quote from: Palehorse on March 09, 2014, 11:37:46 AM
There is a never ending supply of media generated propaganda out, currently in support of daylight savings time. What a bunch of hogwash!

It doesn't automagically "give us an extra hour of daylight". The sun doesn't follow humankind's watches or clocks. Never has, and never will. We get the same amount of daylight as the time of year and seasonal cycle determines.

If one is determined to "obtain the benefit of additional sunlight", then all one has to do is get up earlier and stay up later. Why all of this damned clock shenanigans?  :rant:

As I've said time and time again, the only thing it does is exacerbate sleep issues for those suffering from the malady.  :rant:

Irritates me too but I will have to say your rant brought a chuckle to my day when you left the "L" out.   :biggrin:

Quote from: Palehorse on March 09, 2014, 11:37:46 AM
There is a never ending supply of media generated propaganda out, currently in support of daylight savings time. What a bunch of hogwash!

It doesn't automagically "give us an extra hour of daylight". The sun doesn't follow humankind's watches or clocks. Never has, and never will. We get the same amount of daylight as the time of year and seasonal cycle determines.

If one is determined to "obtain the benefit of additional sunlight", then all one has to do is get up earlier and stay up later. Why all of this damned clock shenanigans?  :rant:

As I've said time and time again, the only thing it does is exacerbate sleep issues for those suffering from the malady.  :rant:

My personal opinion is that I LOVE the daylight savings time, having more time AFTER I get off of work to mess around in my yard........I just wish we would stay on it year round.  The whole country should.  East, central, mountain and west coast all should stay on it year round.  No more changing of the clocks.  All zones be determined and must stay that way.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 10, 2014, 04:38:13 PM
My personal opinion is that I LOVE the daylight savings time, having more time AFTER I get off of work to mess around in my yard........I just wish we would stay on it year round.  The whole country should.  East, central, mountain and west coast all should stay on it year round.  No more changing of the clocks.  All zones be determined and must stay that way.

Exactly what I want. I don't care if it is standard time, daylight savings time, or some other misnomer; pick one and stay on it for crying out loud!

Warm one day and the snowman poops the next. . . It's almost April!  :rant:

Some people are so ignorant. . . :mad:

 :redface: :redface:I am so sick of winter, it is messing up my tanning!

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on March 16, 2014, 03:06:12 PM
:redface: :redface:I am so sick of winter, it is messing up my tanning!

Watch out. You'll get tan lines.  :biggrin:

Now, how do you know that I don't tan au natural!!!

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on March 16, 2014, 05:01:37 PM
Now, how do you know that I don't tan au natural!!!

:spooked:  :icon_twisted:

 ;D :yes:

Frickin bluehairs!  :rant:

Pull up for fuel at my usual place. Every single gas pump is wide open, EXCEPT the 2 dispensing diesel; BOTH occupied by blue hairs pumping gasoline!  :wall: :wall: :wall:

(http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/hlovett_2008/ntb.jpg) (http://s475.photobucket.com/user/hlovett_2008/media/ntb.jpg.html)

Quote from: Palehorse on March 19, 2014, 06:16:23 PM
Frickin bluehairs!  :rant:

Pull up for fuel at my usual place. Every single gas pump is wide open, EXCEPT the 2 dispensing diesel; BOTH occupied by blue hairs pumping gasoline!  :wall: :wall: :wall:

They're out to get you PH.   :biggrin:

They are everywhere!!! :spooked:

Quote from: me on March 19, 2014, 11:32:52 PM
They're out to get you PH.   :biggrin:

Quote from: Palehorse on March 19, 2014, 06:39:25 PM
(http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/hlovett_2008/ntb.jpg) (http://s475.photobucket.com/user/hlovett_2008/media/ntb.jpg.html)

Bahahahaha, I so wanted to do that to some people driving today.

Afternoon, Purplelady. Hope you are doing well.

Well, hello handsome!! It is about time you got over here!!!! Doing well, just enjoying a Saturday!!!

Morning!

I cut an inch off of every straw I see, just to make the world suck a little less.


I'm responsible for the professional an technical development of about 15 employees. There are a couple who are on top of every aspect of our job. The rest are really strong in some areas and really weak in others (normal). The one that drives me insane is so needy and dependent that working with her is about as comfortable as swimming with a cat. She's sooooo smothering an her lack of ANY self confidence is worrisome. She constantly asks for help with the most fundamental pieces of our job. I try the tough live thing and send her back to research (leads to her pestering other people rather than do her own research) or to make a determination on her own. I offer to review her decisions prior to them going out if that would make her more comfortable. She comes back 50 more times with the same damn question reworded. She expects me to stop, drop and roll regardless of anything I'm working in or helping another team member with. Everything is a "situation", "issue" or "crisis" and ALWAYS urgent. My supervisor says that I'm patient and that I handle her well. So why all this screaming on the inside? :biggrin:

I wish some people would just STFU. . .  :mad:

Kooks?  :rotfl:

Quote from: Locutus on March 31, 2014, 06:12:28 PM
Kooks?  :rotfl:

:yes: :rant:

I wish that bitch would suffer a horrible disease and disappear!!! Could we be so lucky?  :no:

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on March 31, 2014, 06:42:14 PM
I wish that bitch would suffer a horrible disease and disappear!!! Could we be so lucky?  :no:

Not an ice cubes chance in hell I am afraid.  :no:

It has been my experience that evil exists as long as it is fed. And she's having a personal banquet over there!  :rant:

Well, she has to be a fat ass sow than. :hogslop:

:rotfl:

I just knew you would like that one!!! :biggrin:

Quote from: Palehorse on March 31, 2014, 06:07:27 PM
I wish some people would just STFU. . .  :mad:

It's not in the script ;D

Hahahaha, you mean this one. :busted:

A telephone is a remarkable tool. I find that I can use a normal level of voice and people can hear me. I wish other people realized that as well. :rolleyes:

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on April 02, 2014, 10:06:19 AM
A telephone is a remarkable tool. I find that I can use a normal level of voice and people can hear me. I wish other people realized that as well. :rolleyes:

Indeed! Nothing like hearing one side of the conversation from the office two doors down from yours!  :rolleyes: :rant:

I hate copy cats and half-assed imitations.

The most dangerous phrase in the english language is; "Because we've always done it this way."

It exhibits the dangerous traits indicative of a closed mind, and inside the box thinking; both major contributors to the oppression of progress, and persecution of technology.

I get so frustrated by individuals that hold positions of authority within corporate Amerika, that base decisions on reactionary thinking rather than factual data and theory that clearly demonstrate that their path of attrition is one leading to an epic failure.  :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

If you always do the same thing over and over and get the same results, nothing will ever change!

 :spooked:

Quote from: Palehorse on April 08, 2014, 06:34:42 PM
The most dangerous phrase in the English language is; "Because we've always done it this way."

It exhibits the dangerous traits indicative of a closed mind, and inside the box thinking; both major contributors to the oppression of progress, and persecution of technology.

I get so frustrated by individuals that hold positions of authority within corporate Amerika, that base decisions on reactionary thinking rather than factual data and theory that clearly demonstrate that their path of attrition is one leading to an epic failure.  :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

  I so agree with you on this one. :yes:  The corporations are so set on the bottom line, profit beyond all.  :grinch: Plus they have convince the buying public that buying a cheap foreign products at the lowest price is the thing to do.   :o  Not only destroying American jobs, but  lowering the quality of the American products so they can compete with this foreign crap.  They the predatory capitalist bring to the shores of America in super large container ships.  Why do they do it, it is for profits.  :hogslop:  As Pogo said, "we have discovered the enemy and it is us".  All you have to do is look at the full parking lot and Walmart, filled with foreign cars.  :doh:

  In the congress we have the neanderthals who want to destroy the progress we have had for around 80 years and take us back to the 1800 where the rich robber barons ruled and there was no middle class, just the rich and the poor.   :rant:

  The Americans has be given a carrot which they continually chase, but the carrot is plastic and is made in China.  :puke:  With the voter restrictions and the Gerrymandering the Predatory Capitalist Republicans and the Neanderthals Right Wingnut Christians Republicans have set us up for the End Times.  Let us pray, :pray: :preach: :pope: Throwing our right leg over our right shoulder and our left leg over our left shoulder and kissing our ass goodbye.  :kiss:

A true Monday it has been. . .

1. Got up for work and along the way I turned on final approach to my destination, only to find the road barricaded with no notice posted until I got to the closure. This required me to turn around and go 3.5 miles out of my way to get to work. . 

2. One thing after another went wrong at work today, from parts coming in wrong to unscheduled reports and requests coming my way.

3. I arrived home to discover our dryer has stopped working. After some diagnostics I figure it is the heating element.

4. I go to the manufacturers web site and discover parts are available if you have the model number.

5. I spend over an hour wrestling with the damned thing and cannot find the model number.

6. In frustration I shove the damned thing back into place and figure I will have to call a service person.

7. As I stoop down to ensure the damn thing is on its base properly, I bump my fuggin head on the open door.

8. After cursing like a sailor in order to prevent myself from slamming the damned door shut, and rubbing my head to ease the pain, I calmly reach up to gently close the door from my stooping position.

9. It was at that exact moment that I spied the damned sticker on the top portion of the door-jamb, containing the model number. I ordered the heating element on line, which the instructions say is easy to replace via the removal of the front access panel. I reconned the front access panel, but thought better of actually trying to remove it today. (Best to await the arrival of better karma).

10. My wife and I run out for dinner, only to find the damned parking lot fenced off, and a detour sign up informing us the dining room is open and instructions to park on the opposite side. (We did)

11. We damned near got run over by a blue hair trying to negotiate the drive through. (This elicited a stream of verbal epitaphs from me, upon which my wife decided to comment, "take me home". I ignored this).

12. While dining we were subjected to the fine tones of a jackhammer being used to remove the brick facade of the wall outside, and watched as some ratty looking construction worker tried to drive the cherry picker he was on, 20 feet in the air, over the damned Bobcat parked right fucking next to him in the fenced zone. (This also elicited some smart, obscenity laced commentary from me, to which my wife replied, "You need to go home and go to bed".

13. I ignored that advice as well, however, I am currently giving it very strong consideration. This fucking day needs to be over with!

14. As I began getting my clothing out for tomorrow, I discover I have no clean underwear. Do I dare put my pants back on, get into the truck, and drive to Kohls to buy some more?

Fuck it. I'm going commando. I'll stop on the way home tomorrow to buy more underwear.

The part for the dryer gets here Friday.  :rant:

Quote from: Palehorse on May 19, 2014, 08:04:07 PM
A true Monday it has been. . .

1. Got up for work and along the way I turned on final approach to my destination, only to find the road barricaded with no notice posted until I got to the closure. This required me to turn around and go 3.5 miles out of my way to get to work. . 

2. One thing after another went wrong at work today, from parts coming in wrong to unscheduled reports and requests coming my way.

3. I arrived home to discover our dryer has stopped working. After some diagnostics I figure it is the heating element.

4. I go to the manufacturers web site and discover parts are available if you have the model number.

5. I spend over an hour wrestling with the damned thing and cannot find the model number.

6. In frustration I shove the damned thing back into place and figure I will have to call a service person.

7. As I stoop down to ensure the damn thing is on its base properly, I bump my fuggin head on the open door.

8. After cursing like a sailor in order to prevent myself from slamming the damned door shut, and rubbing my head to ease the pain, I calmly reach up to gently close the door from my stooping position.

9. It was at that exact moment that I spied the damned sticker on the top portion of the door-jamb, containing the model number. I ordered the heating element on line, which the instructions say is easy to replace via the removal of the front access panel. I reconned the front access panel, but thought better of actually trying to remove it today. (Best to await the arrival of better karma).

10. My wife and I run out for dinner, only to find the damned parking lot fenced off, and a detour sign up informing us the dining room is open and instructions to park on the opposite side. (We did)

11. We damned near got run over by a blue hair trying to negotiate the drive through. (This elicited a stream of verbal epitaphs from me, upon which my wife decided to comment, "take me home". I ignored this).

12. While dining we were subjected to the fine tones of a jackhammer being used to remove the brick facade of the wall outside, and watched as some ratty looking construction worker tried to drive the cherry picker he was on, 20 feet in the air, over the damned Bobcat parked right fucking next to him in the fenced zone. (This also elicited some smart, obscenity laced commentary from me, to which my wife replied, "You need to go home and go to bed".

13. I ignored that advice as well, however, I am currently giving it very strong consideration. This fucking day needs to be over with!

14. As I began getting my clothing out for tomorrow, I discover I have no clean underwear. Do I dare put my pants back on, get into the truck, and drive to Kohls to buy some more?

Fuck it. I'm going commando. I'll stop on the way home tomorrow to buy more underwear.

The part for the dryer gets here Friday.  :rant:

Murphy's law at his finest!!!!!

Quote from: Palehorse on May 19, 2014, 08:04:07 PM
A true Monday it has been. . .

1. Got up for work and along the way I turned on final approach to my destination, only to find the road barricaded with no notice posted until I got to the closure. This required me to turn around and go 3.5 miles out of my way to get to work. . 

2. One thing after another went wrong at work today, from parts coming in wrong to unscheduled reports and requests coming my way.

3. I arrived home to discover our dryer has stopped working. After some diagnostics I figure it is the heating element.

4. I go to the manufacturers web site and discover parts are available if you have the model number.

5. I spend over an hour wrestling with the damned thing and cannot find the model number.

6. In frustration I shove the damned thing back into place and figure I will have to call a service person.

7. As I stoop down to ensure the damn thing is on its base properly, I bump my fuggin head on the open door.

8. After cursing like a sailor in order to prevent myself from slamming the damned door shut, and rubbing my head to ease the pain, I calmly reach up to gently close the door from my stooping position.

9. It was at that exact moment that I spied the damned sticker on the top portion of the door-jamb, containing the model number. I ordered the heating element on line, which the instructions say is easy to replace via the removal of the front access panel. I reconned the front access panel, but thought better of actually trying to remove it today. (Best to await the arrival of better karma).

10. My wife and I run out for dinner, only to find the damned parking lot fenced off, and a detour sign up informing us the dining room is open and instructions to park on the opposite side. (We did)

11. We damned near got run over by a blue hair trying to negotiate the drive through. (This elicited a stream of verbal epitaphs from me, upon which my wife decided to comment, "take me home". I ignored this).

12. While dining we were subjected to the fine tones of a jackhammer being used to remove the brick facade of the wall outside, and watched as some ratty looking construction worker tried to drive the cherry picker he was on, 20 feet in the air, over the damned Bobcat parked right fucking next to him in the fenced zone. (This also elicited some smart, obscenity laced commentary from me, to which my wife replied, "You need to go home and go to bed".

13. I ignored that advice as well, however, I am currently giving it very strong consideration. This fucking day needs to be over with!

14. As I began getting my clothing out for tomorrow, I discover I have no clean underwear. Do I dare put my pants back on, get into the truck, and drive to Kohls to buy some more?

Fuck it. I'm going commando. I'll stop on the way home tomorrow to buy more underwear.

The part for the dryer gets here Friday.  :rant:

When my week starts out like that each day gets better and it usually results in a great Fri and everything has worked itself out. 

I wake up, accomplish a thing or two and look at the clock and it's almost bedtime. Seriously?!? :zzz:

Palehorse, hope your Wednesday is better!

I find that, as I get older, Mondays tend to stretch longer into the week.  :rant:

Palehorse, My sympathy.  Sounds like what happens to me. I am in one of those times in my life when, if it can happen, it will. I go along smoothly, sometimes for years, with only minor distractions (I am an optimist), and then WHAM!  :poke: :dizzy2: :sweatdrop: :huh2:

Quote from: Palehorse on May 19, 2014, 08:04:07 PM
A true Monday it has been. . .

1. Got up for work and along the way I turned on final approach to my destination, only to find the road barricaded with no notice posted until I got to the closure. This required me to turn around and go 3.5 miles out of my way to get to work. . 

2. One thing after another went wrong at work today, from parts coming in wrong to unscheduled reports and requests coming my way.

3. I arrived home to discover our dryer has stopped working. After some diagnostics I figure it is the heating element.

4. I go to the manufacturers web site and discover parts are available if you have the model number.

5. I spend over an hour wrestling with the damned thing and cannot find the model number.

6. In frustration I shove the damned thing back into place and figure I will have to call a service person.

7. As I stoop down to ensure the damn thing is on its base properly, I bump my fuggin head on the open door.

8. After cursing like a sailor in order to prevent myself from slamming the damned door shut, and rubbing my head to ease the pain, I calmly reach up to gently close the door from my stooping position.

9. It was at that exact moment that I spied the damned sticker on the top portion of the door-jamb, containing the model number. I ordered the heating element on line, which the instructions say is easy to replace via the removal of the front access panel. I reconned the front access panel, but thought better of actually trying to remove it today. (Best to await the arrival of better karma).

10. My wife and I run out for dinner, only to find the damned parking lot fenced off, and a detour sign up informing us the dining room is open and instructions to park on the opposite side. (We did)

11. We damned near got run over by a blue hair trying to negotiate the drive through. (This elicited a stream of verbal epitaphs from me, upon which my wife decided to comment, "take me home". I ignored this).

12. While dining we were subjected to the fine tones of a jackhammer being used to remove the brick facade of the wall outside, and watched as some ratty looking construction worker tried to drive the cherry picker he was on, 20 feet in the air, over the damned Bobcat parked right fucking next to him in the fenced zone. (This also elicited some smart, obscenity laced commentary from me, to which my wife replied, "You need to go home and go to bed".

13. I ignored that advice as well, however, I am currently giving it very strong consideration. This fucking day needs to be over with!

14. As I began getting my clothing out for tomorrow, I discover I have no clean underwear. Do I dare put my pants back on, get into the truck, and drive to Kohls to buy some more?

Fuck it. I'm going commando. I'll stop on the way home tomorrow to buy more underwear.

The part for the dryer gets here Friday.  :rant:

Ole Duke sez "Quit cryin' dammit.  ;) Are u healthy and do you have food and shelter? if so life is good.

Best regards,
Duke (healthy and I ain't cold and I ain't hongry and heck I have 4 steel horses to ride) Jupiter  :biggrin:

Quote from: Palehorse on May 19, 2014, 08:04:07 PM
A true Monday it has been. . .

1. Got up for work and along the way I turned on final approach to my destination, only to find the road barricaded with no notice posted until I got to the closure. This required me to turn around and go 3.5 miles out of my way to get to work. . 

2. One thing after another went wrong at work today, from parts coming in wrong to unscheduled reports and requests coming my way.

3. I arrived home to discover our dryer has stopped working. After some diagnostics I figure it is the heating element.

4. I go to the manufacturers web site and discover parts are available if you have the model number.

5. I spend over an hour wrestling with the damned thing and cannot find the model number.

6. In frustration I shove the damned thing back into place and figure I will have to call a service person.

7. As I stoop down to ensure the damn thing is on its base properly, I bump my fuggin head on the open door.

8. After cursing like a sailor in order to prevent myself from slamming the damned door shut, and rubbing my head to ease the pain, I calmly reach up to gently close the door from my stooping position.

9. It was at that exact moment that I spied the damned sticker on the top portion of the door-jamb, containing the model number. I ordered the heating element on line, which the instructions say is easy to replace via the removal of the front access panel. I reconned the front access panel, but thought better of actually trying to remove it today. (Best to await the arrival of better karma).

10. My wife and I run out for dinner, only to find the damned parking lot fenced off, and a detour sign up informing us the dining room is open and instructions to park on the opposite side. (We did)

11. We damned near got run over by a blue hair trying to negotiate the drive through. (This elicited a stream of verbal epitaphs from me, upon which my wife decided to comment, "take me home". I ignored this).

12. While dining we were subjected to the fine tones of a jackhammer being used to remove the brick facade of the wall outside, and watched as some ratty looking construction worker tried to drive the cherry picker he was on, 20 feet in the air, over the damned Bobcat parked right fucking next to him in the fenced zone. (This also elicited some smart, obscenity laced commentary from me, to which my wife replied, "You need to go home and go to bed".

13. I ignored that advice as well, however, I am currently giving it very strong consideration. This fucking day needs to be over with!

14. As I began getting my clothing out for tomorrow, I discover I have no clean underwear. Do I dare put my pants back on, get into the truck, and drive to Kohls to buy some more?

Fuck it. I'm going commando. I'll stop on the way home tomorrow to buy more underwear.

The part for the dryer gets here Friday.  :rant:

  If the dryer is over 10 years old, get a new one, I know from past experiences that the next thing to break is the drive belt and you have to remove the drum to replace it.   :yes:  In this day and age when something gets some age on it, it's better and cheaper to replace the damn thing in money and pain, like your head.   :yes:  Good luck.   :wink: :smile:  Murphy loves you man.  :love:   :smitten:

Quote from: Palehorse on May 19, 2014, 08:04:07 PM
A true Monday it has been. . .

1. Got up for work and along the way I turned on final approach to my destination, only to find the road barricaded with no notice posted until I got to the closure. This required me to turn around and go 3.5 miles out of my way to get to work. . 

2. One thing after another went wrong at work today, from parts coming in wrong to unscheduled reports and requests coming my way.

3. I arrived home to discover our dryer has stopped working. After some diagnostics I figure it is the heating element.

4. I go to the manufacturers web site and discover parts are available if you have the model number.

5. I spend over an hour wrestling with the damned thing and cannot find the model number.

6. In frustration I shove the damned thing back into place and figure I will have to call a service person.

7. As I stoop down to ensure the damn thing is on its base properly, I bump my fuggin head on the open door.

8. After cursing like a sailor in order to prevent myself from slamming the damned door shut, and rubbing my head to ease the pain, I calmly reach up to gently close the door from my stooping position.

9. It was at that exact moment that I spied the damned sticker on the top portion of the door-jamb, containing the model number. I ordered the heating element on line, which the instructions say is easy to replace via the removal of the front access panel. I reconned the front access panel, but thought better of actually trying to remove it today. (Best to await the arrival of better karma).

10. My wife and I run out for dinner, only to find the damned parking lot fenced off, and a detour sign up informing us the dining room is open and instructions to park on the opposite side. (We did)

11. We damned near got run over by a blue hair trying to negotiate the drive through. (This elicited a stream of verbal epitaphs from me, upon which my wife decided to comment, "take me home". I ignored this).

12. While dining we were subjected to the fine tones of a jackhammer being used to remove the brick facade of the wall outside, and watched as some ratty looking construction worker tried to drive the cherry picker he was on, 20 feet in the air, over the damned Bobcat parked right fucking next to him in the fenced zone. (This also elicited some smart, obscenity laced commentary from me, to which my wife replied, "You need to go home and go to bed".

13. I ignored that advice as well, however, I am currently giving it very strong consideration. This fucking day needs to be over with!

14. As I began getting my clothing out for tomorrow, I discover I have no clean underwear. Do I dare put my pants back on, get into the truck, and drive to Kohls to buy some more?

Fuck it. I'm going commando. I'll stop on the way home tomorrow to buy more underwear.

The part for the dryer gets here Friday.  :rant:

Epilog:

The dryer part (heating element) arrived on Wednesday. I waited until today to "take the front access cover off and replace it". . .


Took me 1 hour. And the dryer works fine now. . .  :smile:

Saved myself either $250 bucks for a service call, or $800 on a replacement. You decide.

Momma's happy so I am.  :smitten:

Quote from: Palehorse on May 22, 2014, 07:00:35 PM
Epilog:

The dryer part (heating element) arrived on Wednesday. I waited until today to "take the front access cover off and replace it". . .


Took me 1 hour. And the dryer works fine now. . .  :smile:

Saved myself either $250 bucks for a service call, or $800 on a replacement. You decide.

Momma's happy so I am.  :smitten:

I would go with that!! If Momma ain't happy, no one's happy!!! :yes: :laugh:

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on May 22, 2014, 07:11:58 PM
I would go with that!! If Momma ain't happy, no one's happy!!! :yes: :laugh:

  I just figured it was that way in your house.   :yes:  Cause it that way in my house, cause momma rules.  :love:  :smitten:

Quote from: The Troll on June 23, 2014, 06:44:49 AM
  I just figured it was that way in your house.   :yes:  Cause it that way in my house, cause momma rules.  :love:  :smitten:

Well there are some things I rule over and some things hubby rules over. It makes for a happy marriage to me! :smitten:

 

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on June 23, 2014, 08:28:53 AM
Well there are some things I rule over and some things hubby rules over. It makes for a happy marriage to me! :smitten:

                                                   :nta: :boohoo: :guitarist:  Drum roll please.   :drummer:

Time tuh do muh SNOW dance!

       

Time tuh do muh SNOW dance!

       

 :cold:
Bite your tongue, PH!!! I hate winter :mag:

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on November 16, 2014, 05:58:01 PM
:cold:
Bite your tongue, PH!!! I hate winter :mag:

Uh, don't try to counter it 'cause I have in the past and we've ended up with ice.....   :'(

Time tuh do muh SNOW dance!

       

Time tuh do muh SNOW dance!

       

 :smile: I thought about you, PH, when I heard about all the snow a'swirling around.

Quote from: libby on November 16, 2014, 10:51:54 PM
:smile: I thought about you, PH, when I heard about all the snow a'swirling around.

:smitten: :smitten: :smitten:

Quote from: Palehorse on November 17, 2014, 05:39:23 PM
:smitten: :smitten: :smitten:

:biggrin: I actually love snow. One of my earliest memories is of lying on my back on my bed by the window, looking up at the snowflakes -- it was mesmerizing -- they looked like they were dancing -- floating -- not falling.

I've got the bird seed ready --  a few years ago, when we had a lot of snow and I couldn't  get to the bird feeders, I threw the seeds out on top of the snow. 

Snow....I like.  I can deal with snow.  :yes:

now....

COLD!!! well it SUCKS!!!  Anytime it gets down to single digits....IT SUCKS!  :rant:

10" of snow and 25 degrees!!! I can deal with that.... :yes:

1" of snow and -5...............I HATE!  :rant:


Just felt the need to clarify my thoughts on this topic.   :yes:

I despise cold and snow. I just hate winter period! Hahaha

Quote from: libby on November 17, 2014, 09:59:31 PM
  :biggrin: I actually love snow. One of my earliest memories is of lying on my back on my bed by the window, looking up at the snowflakes -- it was mesmerizing -- they looked like they were dancing -- floating -- not falling.

I've got the bird seed ready --  a few years ago, when we had a lot of snow and I couldn't  get to the bird feeders, I threw the seeds out on top of the snow.

We must be cut from the same cloth!  :smile:

(http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/hlovett_2008/Lookslikeeveryoneatetacobellthatday_9ea5d347341d9ea82ca3a9010835de9b_zps786c92fe.jpg) (http://s475.photobucket.com/user/hlovett_2008/media/Lookslikeeveryoneatetacobellthatday_9ea5d347341d9ea82ca3a9010835de9b_zps786c92fe.jpg.html)

Quote from: Palehorse on November 18, 2014, 07:23:21 PM
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Kinda reminds me of the day before a colonoscopy.  :icon_twisted:

Quote from: Palehorse on November 18, 2014, 06:22:32 PM
We must be cut from the same cloth!  :smile:

:yes: 

Pretentious people :rolleyes:

People who've never had childre who are experts at child-rearing. :biggrin:

Sorry, I'm going there...

THE BELL RINGERS!!

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Another year with out snow on Christmas :'(

I really am in a very Christmassy mood ;D I had to get that stuff off my chest because they were like little patches of phlegm in an otherwise clear lung :biggrin:

Just don't be coughing up any of those hairballs. . .  :icon_twisted:

Time tuh do muh SNOW dance!

       

Time tuh do muh SNOW dance!

       

Quote from: Palehorse on December 24, 2014, 10:12:17 AM
Just don't be coughing up any of those hairballs. . .  :icon_twisted:

I'm competing with the cats! :biggrin:

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on December 24, 2014, 11:44:16 AM
I'm competing with the cats! :biggrin:

:eek:

Quote from: Palehorse on December 24, 2014, 10:12:17 AM
Just don't be coughing up any of those hairballs. . .  :icon_twisted:

  HAIRBALLS?  Let me tell you about the big one I got when I was single in 1960.  :wink: :biggrin:

Let the monsoons begin people!  :mad:

Quote from: Palehorse on March 31, 2015, 06:19:28 PM
Let the monsoons begin people!  :mad:

https://www.youtube.com/v/Z1Z0odJJj00

I really don't understand just why it is that Indiana's tax forms have to be so god damn complicated! Worse than the feds!  :rant:

Move to Florida.  No state income tax here.  Once you're done with the feds, you're done.  ;D

Quote from: Palehorse on April 11, 2015, 05:45:26 PM
I really don't understand just why it is that Indiana's tax forms have to be so god damn complicated! Worse than the feds!  :rant:

I am still waiting on a refund from Indiana from over 30 years ago. I know I will never get it!

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on April 11, 2015, 07:58:09 PM
I am still waiting on a refund from Indiana from over 30 years ago. I know I will never get it!

I think they spent that as part of the vast amount of money the state laid out in prepping for the last super bowl event they were planning. . .  :biggrin:

Quote from: Palehorse on April 12, 2015, 10:41:48 AM
I think they spent that as part of the vast amount of money the state laid out in prepping for the last super bowl event they were planning. . .  :biggrin:

Lol,not surprising

Quote from: Locutus on April 11, 2015, 06:08:31 PM
Move to Florida.  No state income tax here.  Once you're done with the feds, you're done.  ;D

That explains the high density blue-hair population there now doesn't it?  :icon_twisted:

(http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/hlovett_2008/10312768_921438594545044_7237643114448956860_n_zpsmtfh2cko.jpg) (http://s475.photobucket.com/user/hlovett_2008/media/10312768_921438594545044_7237643114448956860_n_zpsmtfh2cko.jpg.html)

Quote from: Palehorse on April 12, 2015, 07:46:22 PM
That explains the high density blue-hair population there now doesn't it?  :icon_twisted:

Texas has the same thing.  I had a friend who went RV Camping full time.  He got a mail box in Texas which he said was his home state.  He lived in Gulf Shore AL in the winter and in Indiana in the summer.  NO state taxes for the guy.   :yes:

(http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr111/hlovett_2008/10432534_1017858558239173_897270942082283884_n_zpszmii0xrf.jpg) (http://s475.photobucket.com/user/hlovett_2008/media/10432534_1017858558239173_897270942082283884_n_zpszmii0xrf.jpg.html)

I just hate it when week after endless week, for 4 years, you slave away providing statistical analysis of performance that are used as the metrics that gauge the performance and efficiency of the business, and one of the people on the distribution list finally decides to review what you've been sending forever, and acts like it is the first time they have ever seen the database that supports all those charts and graphs!  :rant:

Makes you feel the "value" in all of it. . .  :mad:

What's with all of these "death notices" on social media lately? 99.9% of them on a certain social media venue I frequent, are for people that croaked a year to 5 years ago, and people are acting as if they just died!  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :roll eyes:

Wake up people! If you want the straight dope on who has croaked recently, you need to consult*:

http://theunknownzone.dailynuisanceproductions.com/index.php?topic=18633.0 (http://theunknownzone.dailynuisanceproductions.com/index.php?topic=18633.0)

*- Since I am not the only contributor there you may find some of the posters therein have fallen victim to the very same "activity propaganda" being put out there by these nefarious social media contributors. (But we're pretty quick to point out those mistakes when they happen)

I have a long time personal friend that is a professional cartoonist. He has drawn for a living ever since high-school, and for fun even before that. He is a very talented individual, whose work I have posted a time or two herein, and for whom I hold a ton of respect and admiration. As a person, as a professional, and as a fine example of a human being.

Today he has informed me that he is giving strong consideration to changing his line of work, given what transpired in Texas this week with the whole Cartoonist convention shooting.

His work runs across a lot of genres, with a bit of heaviness surrounding political subject matter. He was among the first to create cartoons on the incident in France this year, and while he was steadfast in his resolve to remain in his chosen career, this latest event hit a bit too close to home. (He knew several people that were there, as friends and colleagues).

This shit just frustrates me beyond measure, and in my mind these ISIS idiots are just as much taking hammers and axes to treasures in this nation as they are elsewhere in the world!  :mad: :mad: :mad:

http://www.thecouriertimes.com/news/article_5580a506-03e4-11e5-9a1d-cfd50d900e9a.html (http://www.thecouriertimes.com/news/article_5580a506-03e4-11e5-9a1d-cfd50d900e9a.html)

Look at this FREAK!  :mad:

That is scary..... :spooked:

What's the best way to tell someone they're useless without hurting their feelings? ;D

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on May 30, 2015, 11:36:59 PM
What's the best way to tell someone they're useless without hurting their feelings? ;D

That is a hard one! Maybe just say, you know in this area, you aren't as strong as others but you do great in this area. I had a manager who would always tell positives along with a negative.

Let your actions speak the words instead of your mouth.

Quote from: Palehorse on May 05, 2015, 05:27:50 PM
I just hate it when week after endless week, for 4 years, you slave away providing statistical analysis of performance that are used as the metrics that gauge the performance and efficiency of the business, and one of the people on the distribution list finally decides to review what you've been sending forever, and acts like it is the first time they have ever seen the database that supports all those charts and graphs!  :rant:

Makes you feel the "value" in all of it. . .  :mad:

  FYI, once Ford Motor Co. admitted that they used less that 10% of all the data they collected.   :wink:  I learned this after years and years of filling I.I sheets on quality of parts being run on the production machines.  :doh:

There aren't any positives. :no:

I've decided to follow PH's train of thought and I'm simply washing my hands. If they ask, then I plan to be point blank honest, feelings be damned. I've spent too much time concerned about the feelings of a person that can't care enough to at least be truthful. They play the pity card really well and I'm done. Sorry, shit's tough all over.

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on May 31, 2015, 05:29:34 PM
There aren't any positives. :no:

I've decided to follow PH's train of thought and I'm simply washing my hands. If they ask, then I plan to be point blank honest, feelings be damned. I've spent too much time concerned about the feelings of a person that can't care enough to at least be truthful. They play the pity card really well and I'm done. Sorry, shit's tough all over.

Sounds like good advice and I would do the same

"I hate you all!" (TM)    :razz:

:biggrin:

Quote from: Palehorse on May 27, 2015, 07:40:21 PM
http://www.thecouriertimes.com/news/article_5580a506-03e4-11e5-9a1d-cfd50d900e9a.html (http://www.thecouriertimes.com/news/article_5580a506-03e4-11e5-9a1d-cfd50d900e9a.html)

Look at this FREAK!  :mad:

Ah tole ya' thet ya' shouldna' married her!   :razz:

:biggrin:

Does the media REALLY have to splash the front pages with pictures of the Vanity Fair spread of "Caitlyn" Jenner?

That shit is making me want to puke! WTF?! Is another transgender really front page news across all of the media?

As I said in a thread in the Rough House, it's time for him to go.  He obviously has FAR more problems than wanting to be a woman.

Quote from: Y on June 01, 2015, 07:12:38 PM
As I said in a thread in the Rough House, it's time for him to go.  He obviously has FAR more problems than wanting to be a woman.

:yes: :yes: :yes:

I don't know why it's news either. Whether or not she has issues, is male or female, who gives a fat rats ass? I mean seriously? I'd say I'm apathetic but that would be giving it too much importance. ;D

They need to clear the headlines for REAL news, for example, her former step-daughter is knocked up again. :biggrin:

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 01, 2015, 07:19:08 PM
I don't know why it's news either. Whether or not she has issues, is male or female, who gives a fat rats ass? I mean seriously? I'd say I'm apathetic but that would be giving it too much importance. ;D

They need to clear the headlines for REAL news, for example, her former step-daughter is knocked up again. :biggrin:

I mean seriously! You mean to tell me that in all of this country, there isn't another issue / event so important as to take the masthead of the main page than a former professional athlete going transgender? Un Be Fuggin liveable!  :mad:

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 01, 2015, 07:19:08 PM
I don't know why it's news either. Whether or not she has issues, is male or female, who gives a fat rats ass? I mean seriously? I'd say I'm apathetic but that would be giving it too much importance. ;D

They need to clear the headlines for REAL news, for example, her former step-daughter is knocked up again. :biggrin:

Maybe REAL news doesn't sell?

An article from today's Washington Post ....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/how-abcs-world-news-tonight-became-a-ratings-winner/2015/06/01/e88ea494-04af-11e5-a428-c984eb077d4e_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/how-abcs-world-news-tonight-became-a-ratings-winner/2015/06/01/e88ea494-04af-11e5-a428-c984eb077d4e_story.html)

How ABC's 'World News Tonight' became a ratings winner

Little by little, ABC's "World News Tonight" has climbed to the rocky summit of Mount Nielsen. After years of also-ran status, the evening newscast has caught up to NBC's "Nightly News," the ratings champ for more than five years. The two programs now jockey for the title of America's most-popular TV news source.

Under Sawyer, "World News" became noticeably softer, with a greater emphasis on celebrity and entertainment stories, weather coverage, crime fare, news-you-can-use and YouTube's hottest videos. The trend has continued, and perhaps accelerated, with Muir, 41, at the anchor desk.

Quote from: Y on June 01, 2015, 07:12:38 PM
As I said in a thread in the Rough House, it's time for him to go.  He obviously has FAR more problems than wanting to be a woman.

  Most  of these people of this kind do have more problems than me.  Like more money.  :yes:  If it makes him or her happy, have at it.   :yes:  Because I don't give a damn.   :yes:  :tiphat:

Quote from: Bo D on June 02, 2015, 09:04:46 AM
Maybe REAL news doesn't sell?

An article from today's Washington Post ....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/how-abcs-world-news-tonight-became-a-ratings-winner/2015/06/01/e88ea494-04af-11e5-a428-c984eb077d4e_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/how-abcs-world-news-tonight-became-a-ratings-winner/2015/06/01/e88ea494-04af-11e5-a428-c984eb077d4e_story.html)

How ABC's 'World News Tonight' became a ratings winner

Little by little, ABC's "World News Tonight" has climbed to the rocky summit of Mount Nielsen. After years of also-ran status, the evening newscast has caught up to NBC's "Nightly News," the ratings champ for more than five years. The two programs now jockey for the title of America's most-popular TV news source.

Under Sawyer, "World News" became noticeably softer, with a greater emphasis on celebrity and entertainment stories, weather coverage, crime fare, news-you-can-use and YouTube's hottest videos. The trend has continued, and perhaps accelerated, with Muir, 41, at the anchor desk.

"Real news doesn't sell"

You're absolutely correct. We live in a society that shows more concern about which celebrity  is changing genders, getting out of rehab, or popping out another kid than real world issues where people are starving or dying.

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Dammit, shit, goddammit, motherfucker, piss...

Offended? Good, fuck you!

Kind of an offshoot to a conversation I had earlier where someone is so offended that the new Maroon 5 song uses the word "Motherfucker". Yes, this was an adult. :rolleyes:

This falls into my "who cares?" column.  Why would someone care enough to be offended? So I asked. I really am more fun to be around than I seem. :biggrin: The response? "I'd just like to have music with values." What? Seriously? So, this band has one song that this person doesn't like and she's writing off the whole band and its music (that she liked previously). She made this decision based on he word "motherfucker".

Blows my mind.

It's just a word. Words have no more weight than the recever bestows. In my mind, the irony is that the song and the word are meaningless but she has assigned this high level of emotion to it, which in the end makes it significant. To her anyway.

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 02, 2015, 04:22:20 PM
Dammit, shit, goddammit, motherfucker, piss...

Offended? Good, fuck you!

Kind of an offshoot to a conversation I had earlier where someone is so offended that the new Maroon 5 song uses the word "Motherfucker". Yes, this was an adult. :rolleyes:

This falls into my "who cares?" column.  Why would someone care enough to be offended? So I asked. I really am more fun to be around than I seem. :biggrin: The response? "I'd just like to have music with values." What? Seriously? So, this band has one song that this person doesn't like and she's writing off the whole band and its music (that she liked previously). She made this decision based on he word "motherfucker".

Blows my mind.

It's just a word. Words have no more weight than the recever bestows. In my mind, the irony is that the song and the word are meaningless but she has assigned this high level of emotion to it, which in the end makes it significant. To her anyway.

Who the fuck gives a shit about Maroon 5 anyway?  :icon_twisted:

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 02, 2015, 04:22:20 PM
It's just a word.

Speaking of words, what does this one mean?  :razz:

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 02, 2015, 04:12:43 PM
We live in a society that shows more concern about Awhicjbcelebrity is changing genders, getting out of rehab, or popping out another kid than real world issues where people are starving or dying.

Quote from: Locutus on June 02, 2015, 05:18:51 PM
Speaking of words, what does this one mean?  :razz:

Ha! Ask Siri I dunno! :biggrin:

I should have caught that I was fast typing between speeches and didn't proofread.

Quote from: Bo D on June 02, 2015, 05:18:22 PM
Who the fuck gives a shit about Maroon 5 anyway?  :icon_twisted:

There's that :biggrin: and the fact that people get so offended and uptight about meaningless crap.

In other words:

When people are offended by profanity and want to start whining about morals, I just want to pull out Carlin's "7 Dirty words that you can't say" and tell them to get over themselves.

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 03, 2015, 05:38:10 AM
In other words:

When people are offended by profanity and want to start whining about morals, I just want to pull out Carlin's "7 Dirty words that you can't say" and tell them to get over themselves.

Good idea.  :biggrin: :yes:

https://www.youtube.com/v/FMkNsMMvrqk

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 02, 2015, 04:22:20 PM
Dammit, shit, goddammit, motherfucker, piss...

Offended? Good, fuck you!

Kind of an offshoot to a conversation I had earlier where someone is so offended that the new Maroon 5 song uses the word "Motherfucker". Yes, this was an adult. :rolleyes:

. . .

That person better stay away from Deadwood then! (Warning- nearly 8 minutes of cocksuckers ahead)  :biggrin:

https://www.youtube.com/v/u4D3UdxM3OU

Warning. The cocksucker brought friends!

https://www.youtube.com/v/PgaEYyIjykM

Lest you all get the wrong idea about me - "Who the fuck gives a shit about Maroon 5 anyway?" ....

I try my very best not to curse. I think it's ugly and it's a sign of limited vocabulary, or, worse, laziness in trying to find the proper descriptive language.

I am not offended by anyone who curses. BUT - I do not want to hear it in front of my grandchildren. I do not want to hear it when I am trying to have a quiet dinner in a "nice" restaurant.

I am not a prude. I just expect better behavior.

So  - you there - SHUT THE FUCK UP!

I agree with you, Bo. I don't like to hear cussin', particularly when children are around. I didn't allow it in my home when my children were growing up and they were punished when they were old enough to know better. The exception to that, which was beyond my control, was my father in law who while he was a wonderful person, well educate, had a good job, etc., never said three words without at least one of them being a cuss word. He also had a derogatory name for every ethnicity. We spent a lot of time correction our kids when they were little about what they could and couldn't say after a visit with grandpa.  :)

In general, I have no feelings one way or the other concerning vulgarity and I can turn it on and off at will.  That being said, an excessive abuse of the privilege is usually not welcome anywhere and tends to be for shock value or from an uneducated mind.

Now on the other hand I leave you with this mathematical statement, 4Q2!   :biggrin:

Quote from: Y on June 12, 2015, 01:02:59 PM
In general, I have no feelings one way or the other concerning vulgarity and I can turn it on and off at will.  That being said, an excessive abuse of the privilege is usually not welcome anywhere and tends to be for shock value or from an uneducated mind.

Now on the other hand I leave you with this mathematical statement, 4Q2!   :biggrin:

Fluorine
Uranium
Carbon
Potassium
:icon_twisted:

Quote from: Bo D on June 12, 2015, 01:49:32 PM
Fluorine
Uranium
Carbon
Potassium
:icon_twisted:

Ah!  We hear from the Chemistry Dept.!   :biggrin:

Quote from: Y on June 12, 2015, 06:53:30 PM
Ah!  We hear from the Chemistry Dept.!   :biggrin:

And anyone who doesn't get the message from the chemistry department should just check out the periodic table.  :big grin:

Quote from: Locutus on June 12, 2015, 07:00:10 PM
And anyone who doesn't get the message from the chemistry department should just check out the periodic table.  :big grin:

:smile:

Better living through chemistry!  :icon_twisted:

I'm having some alcohol right now!

Quote from: Locutus on June 12, 2015, 09:41:37 PM
I'm having some alcohol right now!

BRB. . .

Quote from: Locutus on June 12, 2015, 09:41:37 PM
I'm having some alcohol right now!

Me too!  :biggrin:

;D

Cheers!

Rachel Dolezal is a mental disaster.

I'm sure there'd be NO problem with her holding the position she held had she been truthful surrounding her race / genetic ancestry. All of her spinning and twisting doesn't change the fact she "creatively" lied, but in fact lied.

She wants to be black, but she isn't. . . So why exacerbate the lie with more creative lying disguised as explanation???

She has done nothing except establish beyond any doubt, her credentials as a liar.  :rant:

Quote from: Palehorse on June 16, 2015, 06:43:44 PM
Rachel Dolezal is a mental disaster.

I'm sure there'd be NO problem with her holding the position she held had she been truthful surrounding her race / genetic ancestry. All of her spinning and twisting doesn't change the fact she "creatively" lied, but in fact lied.

She wants to be black, but she isn't. . . So why exacerbate the lie with more creative lying disguised as explanation???

She has done nothing except establish beyond any doubt, her credentials as a liar.  :rant:

Agreed!

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on June 16, 2015, 06:53:28 PM
Agreed!

x2

Rut ro........are we gonna have a snow storm in June? We're all agreeing on something.  :spooked:

.  .  .  .Did someone say snow?  .  .  .  .  :snowbl: :snowbl: :snowbl: :snowbl: :snowbl: :snowbl:

Back on point:

So my wife and I decided a few weeks ago that we needed a new vehicle. I hate to say this but none of the big 3 auto makers models made our list of potential purchases. Why? WAY over-priced and most of them are only partially assembled in the US anyway. Not to mention GM's recall addiction and history. . .

While in Houston a few eels ago, we rented one of the potential candidates. As fate would have it, it was a brand new 2015 VW Passat. Now my wife was not wild about it at first glance, but surrounding value for the dollar I thought it was worth a test drive anyway. . . My reasoning followed the whole German engineering thing. . .

What a GIANT piece of crap! I absolutely hated that thing. Brakes were WAY too touchy, transmission was lethargic, and the layout of the controls and instrumentation left a lot to be desired. (It only had 500 miles on it).

That came off the list.

Despite our misgivings, the Chevrolet Traverse got a test drive too. We drove our daughters and while it was really nice, it's size was daunting to my wife. (This vehicle is for my wife to drive so her opinion carrys a lot of weight). Still, I priced them out with our "employee discount", and found the all wheel drive model was still over priced.

Off the list it came. (But at least I felt better about due diligence)

WTF is with American auto makers anymore? Pickup trucks now cost as much or more than a Camaro and a number of Cadillac models. WTF??  :rant: :rant: :rant:

Anyway. . . We ended up buying a foreign model that is 35% American manufactured components and assembled in Mexico. . . While the name may be foreign the content supports economies in the Americas. . .  And we got a great deal and 0% on the balance after our down payment. . .

I sacrificed my steel horse to get the deal done. . .  :'(  But the things we do for love are priceless.  :smile:

Quote from: Palehorse on July 02, 2015, 03:23:02 PM
Back on point:

So my wife and I decided a few weeks ago that we needed a new vehicle. I hate to say this but none of the big 3 auto makers models made our list of potential purchases. Why? WAY over-priced and most of them are only partially assembled in the US anyway. Not to mention GM's recall addiction and history. . .

While in Houston a few eels ago, we rented one of the potential candidates. As fate would have it, it was a brand new 2015 VW Passat. Now my wife was not wild about it at first glance, but surrounding value for the dollar I thought it was worth a test drive anyway. . . My reasoning followed the whole German engineering thing. . .

What a GIANT piece of crap! I absolutely hated that thing. Brakes were WAY too touchy, transmission was lethargic, and the layout of the controls and instrumentation left a lot to be desired. (It only had 500 miles on it).

That came off the list.

Despite our misgivings, the Chevrolet Traverse got a test drive too. We drove our daughters and while it was really nice, it's size was daunting to my wife. (This vehicle is for my wife to drive so her opinion carrys a lot of weight). Still, I priced them out with our "employee discount", and found the all wheel drive model was still over priced.

Off the list it came. (But at least I felt better about due diligence)

WTF is with American auto makers anymore? Pickup trucks now cost as much or more than a Camaro and a number of Cadillac models. WTF??  :rant: :rant: :rant:

Anyway. . . We ended up buying a foreign model that is 35% American manufactured components and assembled in Mexico. . . While the name may be foreign the content supports economies in the Americas. . .  And we got a great deal and 0% on the balance after our down payment. . .

I sacrificed my steel horse to get the deal done. . .  :'(  But the things we do for love are priceless.  :smile:

I have driven Toyota's since 1974 (except for a short time in the late 80's/early 90's when the kids were young and I drove a Dodge Caravan  :puke:) for the very same reasons you outlined. I couldn't be happier. The fit and finish on every has been impeccable, they run forever, and the resale value is phenomenal. Plus my current and last trucks were made in the USA (Fremont. CA) with 60% American parts.

I have kept each one of my Toyota's on average 8 years each.

Quote from: Bo D on July 02, 2015, 04:02:00 PM
I have driven Toyota's since 1974 (except for a short time in the late 80's/early 90's when the kids were young and I drove a Dodge Caravan  :puke:) for the very same reasons you outlined. I couldn't be happier. The fit and finish on every has been impeccable, they run forever, and the resale value is phenomenal. Plus my current and last trucks were made in the USA (Fremont. CA) with 60% American parts.

I have kept each one of my Toyota's on average 8 years each.

We ended up with a 2015 Nissan Rogue AWD SV. If it gets 80% of the mpg it is rated to, it will far surpass the 2004 Pontiac Grand Am GT Coupe it replaces as my wife's daily driver. (And now my summer time daily driver).

We've historically kept our vehicles about 6 years until the "economic downturn". My truck is now 12 years old and the Pontiac is 11 years old; both of which I am currently driving. . .

I wanted an all wheel drive vehicle for my wife to drive, simply because it gives me some peace of mind during the winter months. She doesn't have far to go each day, ( less than 5 miles each way), but in winter I still have this sense of dread expecting a call that she is stuck in the snow along the way. (Happened three times last winter).

Plus, we need a new vehicle for road trips. . . And Nissan stepped up to the plate, giving me just 1k less than what I paid for my steel horse 7 years ago new, (as the down payment it represented 50% of the price), and 0% on the balance. It was a no brainer.

She wanted a Murano but once she drove one she decided it was in the same category as the Traverse; too big.  :smile:

I cringed a bit surrounding the whole Made in USA thing, but in the end I did what I had to do to secure the best deal for my wife and I. The big 3 just weren't even in the same ball park. . .  :no:

Palehorse, I never thought I would own a foreign made vehicle brand because my parents had always owned Chevy's and Fords but I have owned a Nissan, a Toyota and now a Mitsubishi. The Mitsubishi gets about 40 mpg and is a nice little cross over. I would have been happy with a Chevy but the Chevy and Ford dealers didn't want to work with us on what we wanted to pay!

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on July 02, 2015, 09:20:48 PM
Palehorse, I never thought I would own a foreign made vehicle brand because my parents had always owned Chevy's and Fords but I have owned a Nissan, a Toyota and now a Mitsubishi. The Mitsubishi gets about 40 mpg and is a nice little cross over. I would have been happy with a Chevy but the Chevy and Ford dealers didn't want to work with us on what we wanted to pay!

  Thanks for being such a good American.  I suppose you do all your shopping a Walmart too.   :rolleyes:  If you knew me better, I could have got you on my family plan and you could have save around 14% on any car that Ford Motor Co. makes.     :wink: :smile:

Quote from: The Troll on July 05, 2015, 03:30:38 PM
  Thanks for being such a good American.  I suppose you do all your shopping a Walmart too.   :rolleyes:  If you knew me better, I could have got you on my family plan and you could have save around 14% on any car that Ford Motor Co. makes.     :wink: :smile:

Nope, hate to.disappoint you but we don't shop at Walmart. I highly doubt that you could have saved us 14% on any Ford because nowadays car makers aren't interested in who you are, who you know or who you were in buying a vehicle.

  Would you like to put a little money where  your big mouth is, Sweetie Pie.  Let's say a $100 bill.   :wink:  People who work at Ford or retired from Ford can have 4 people on their family plan.  Which will give them 12 to 14% off the price off of any any car or truck (except big rigs) built by Ford.

  I call into Ford and get a pin number, the person I chose presents it to the dealer and that will be the price.  No wheeling or dealing.  If you like the price, you buy it, no strings attached.   :yes: How you get rid of the old car is what you chose to do with it.   :biggrin:  Want to bet Sweetie Pie.   :wink: :biggrin:

Quote from: The Troll on July 05, 2015, 08:44:41 PM

  Would you like to put a little money where  your big mouth is, Sweetie Pie.  Let's say a $100 bill.   :wink:  People who work at Ford or retired from Ford can have 4 people on their family plan.  Which will give them 12 to 14% off the price off of any any car or truck (except big rigs) built by Ford.

  I call into Ford and get a pin number, the person I chose presents it to the dealer and that will be the price.  No wheeling or dealing.  If you like the price, you buy it, no strings attached.   :yes: How you get rid of the old car is what you chose to do with it.   :biggrin:  Want to bet Sweetie Pie.   :wink: :biggrin:

Nope, because I don't bet ! Sorry but you aren't the only one with ties to the automobile industry and these days it doesn't matter that you use to work for Ford. After all, my husband's uncle worked for Henry Ford himself!   Ford isn't even the car dealership that it once was. Funny, I didn't see you offering Palehorse the same thing you are trying to peddle to me. I have owned Fords a couple of times and to be honest all they were were junk. I bought brand new and had nothing but problems, thank goodness I always had a warranty and took them back and went with something different.

  Sweetie Pie, I have told pale horse about the plan.  But people like you don't care how much damage you do to the country buying foreign owned products.   :yes:  You people just live in you own little world.   :yes:  Get over yourself.    :flash: :mooning:

Quote from: The Troll on July 06, 2015, 04:39:46 PM

  Sweetie Pie, I have told pale horse about the plan.  But people like you don't care how much damage you do to the country buying foreign owned products.   :yes:  You people just live in you own little world.   :yes:  Get over yourself.    :flash: :mooning:

By the way, the plan only works with immediate family so doubtful that friends fly on that! You do realize, well,  probably not since you are stuck in your own stupidity that a lot of foreign made vehicles are now made in the States. When Ford or Chevy can last as long as most foreign made vehicles than I will go back to driving one! My very first car that parents got me was a Datsun made by Nissan and it last well over 200,000 miles and I only sold it because I wanted an Oldsmobile product which didn't las 6 months. The Datsun was used when I got it!
We buy American made as much as possible but sometimes necessity shows you buy something that will last. I don't purchase vehicles every other year like some people or even every 3 years but tend to keep one for 6-8 years. This Mitsubishi got us to South Carolina going and coming on one tank of gas. The last time we went, 3 years ago,our American made product didn't do that!

Quote from: The Troll on July 06, 2015, 04:39:46 PM

  Sweetie Pie, I have told pale horse about the plan.  But people like you don't care how much damage you do to the country buying foreign owned products.   :yes:  You people just live in you own little world.   :yes:  Get over yourself.    :flash: :mooning:

For the record: Troll did indeed tell me about the plan with Ford and did indeed make the same offer, and my own father-in-law has made the same standing order to me; and it is one I have taken advantage of in the past with the purchase of several GM vehicles.

That being said, even with the employee discount I would get from GM, they could not touch the deal Nissan was extending to me nor the savings. GM wouldn't deal beyond what little they provide to employees these days surrounding a discount. And what they wanted to give me for the steel horse was a joke. (An American manufactured motorcycle too, which I owned outright).

Nissan did right by me, and even my father in law agreed with that.  (And he owns a Nissan too by the way).

I admit to not even considering a Ford though. I could not do that to my father-in-law, and would not. And I'm not trying to diss Ford either. As a matter of fact, if I were to buy a vehicle from the big American 3, I would give Ford a hard look first before deciding. Why? Because that company did the right things when it came to the "economic downturn" and did not take any money from the AIFP program; unlike GM and Chrysler.

Yes, they took a line of credit from the Government ($5.9 billion in government loans in 2009 to retool its manufacturing plants to produce more fuel-efficient cars),  however it was not part of the AIFP program. They also made the hard choices necessary during such hard fiscal times, and scaled back operations in order to remain profitable. And they are selling more vehicles now and were back then because of it.

I had a Ford Expedition for 10 years and never had a stitch of trouble out of it until the 10th year. 

Quote from: Locutus on July 06, 2015, 05:13:51 PM
I had a Ford Expedition for 10 years and never had a stitch of trouble out of it until the 10th year.

Of the big 3 I would trust Ford's quality and reliability head and shoulders above the other two right now. I've rented several Fords when traveling for work and pleasure, and I've liked every single one of them. . .  :yes:  My late father primarily drove Fords throughout his lifetime, and while he was alive so did I. (I even had a couple among the classic car collection I once owned back in the day - a 1965 Galaxie 500 was one of them.)  :yes:

My Father-In-Law and one of my Brother's in law are both GM retirees, so as long as the father in law is alive I'll buy GM if I buy from the big 3. . . In fact I was afraid of the reaction we'd get from him over buying a new Nissan, but to our amazement he fully supported our decision and raves over the vehicle.  :smile:

I have had a Ford previously a few years ago and never had problems. We used it to trade in for a GM product that gave us problems. Now, before I ever got married I also owned some Fords that were problems but I always went with American made products until after I got  married. Ford and Chevy couldn't touch the deal the Mitsubishi dealer gave us and we went to them first before we even looked at the Mitsubishi!

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on July 06, 2015, 04:58:08 PM
By the way, the plan only works with immediate family so doubtful that friends fly on that! You do realize, well,  probably not since you are stuck in your own stupidity that a lot of foreign made vehicles are now made in the States. When Ford or Chevy can last as long as most foreign made vehicles than I will go back to driving one! My very first car that parents got me was a Datsun made by Nissan and it last well over 200,000 miles and I only sold it because I wanted an Oldsmobile product which didn't las 6 months. The Datsun was used when I got it!
We buy American made as much as possible but sometimes necessity shows you buy something that will last. I don't purchase vehicles every other year like some people or even every 3 years but tend to keep one for 6-8 years. This Mitsubishi got us to South Carolina going and coming on one tank of gas. The last time we went, 3 years ago,our American made product didn't do that!

  There you go with your right wing brain out in left field.   :razz:  I have worked for Ford for 38 years and have been retired 17 years and in the last three years 4 people, not family member used my plan to buy new Fords.   :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:  With my plan I can get it for anyone I chose.   :yes: :rolleyes:  Even you in another state.  Ford doesn't care who I chose to buy a Ford product.

  I will admit that a Ford dealer doesn't not want your old car or truck, that is because they don't hardly make any money on the new car or truck.   :yes: :smile:  Sell your old car and walk into a Ford dealership and buy a new car or truck with no hassle, no hidden cost and drive a new vehicle out.  My wife bought a new Edge SUV two years ago.  Since we had given our older car to my son.  We walked into the dealership and pick out a new Edge off the lot.  We walked back into the dealership told them  the one we wanted and the salesman said, wait a minute I'll be right back.  About 15 minutes he came back, showed us the invoice and the price they wanted for it.  We signed the paper and walked out of the office.  We did pay cash for the car.  We drove out in a new car with no hassle.   :yeah: :trustme:

  But Sweetie Pie, those Jap cars plants are owned by Jap companies.  Yes, their cars are built in America.  But you big dummy, the profit goes back to Japan where they figure what other items they can sell to the stupid Americans and take more money from the USA. :4th3: :4th5:

  Did you know that once the floor  pan is placed on the automated assembly line.  The complete outer shell of the body of the car can be built without one human being on the assembly line or touched by a human hand.  Also all of the robots that puts it together are foreign made.  It sure sound like a good deal for the American economy.   :rant:  Keep buying those foreign cars and you can help America recover from George W. Bush's depression.  :haha:  :haha: It's too bad that it isn't really funny.   :'(

Quote from: Locutus on July 06, 2015, 05:13:51 PM
I had a Ford Expedition for 10 years and never had a stitch of trouble out of it until the 10th year.

The trick is to do the research on the vehicle.  Every car company has good and bad vehicles.  Also, you need to look at a vehicle as a tool, a tool to get you from point A to point B and back reliably.

Back in the day when engines were all cast iron, transmissions simpler, and cars were made primarily by hand with union labor, you could practically expect any vehicle to give you decades of service if you serviced them properly.  Today it's not the case, you have to research them.

I own vehicles by all the current major American manufacturers, and all were researched for reliability.  I always look to buy low mileage older vehicles for several reasons.  They have a track record to research for problems; the new model bugs are worked out; I pay cash so there are no loan costs nor full coverage insurance costs; there are no ridiculous plate or registration costs; and you can buy parts on the open market instead of the overpriced dealer.

The newest car I own is a 1997 Blazer at under 100k miles with the ever reliable 4.3 Vortec V6 motor.  It is a replacement for a 94 Blazer with 130k that the body has rusted out.  I have three Ford Taurus wagons, 93, 94, 95.  The 93 is under 100k, the 95 is just over 100k, and the 94 is pushing 170k.  All have the great Vulcan V6 3.0/3.8 in them.  I have a 94 GMC Sonoma with just over 100k and has the solid 2.2 I4.  Lastly, I have a 94 Chrysler Town and Country van with the 3.3 motor that will run forever - as this one is doing at working on 165k miles.  I sold my 89 Dodge Caravan cargo van that had over a quarter million miles (250k) with the 3.3 motor and still going strong - it was getting rust issues.

The only downside to this is that our county has put a $25 per vehicle wheel tax in place to swell the coffers for road repair - even though we're already paying taxes for road maintenance.  Rumor has it that the wheel tax is being used elsewhere - as are the other road maintenance taxes. 

Quote from: The Troll on July 06, 2015, 08:03:39 PM
  There you go with your right wing brain out in left field.   :razz:  I have worked for Ford for 38 years and have been retired 17 years and in the last three years 4 people, not family member used my plan to buy new Fords.   :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:  With my plan I can get it for anyone I chose.   :yes: :rolleyes:  Even you in another state.  Ford doesn't care who I chose to buy a Ford product.

  I will admit that a Ford dealer doesn't not want your old car or truck, that is because they don't hardly make any money on the new car or truck.   :yes: :smile:  Sell your old car and walk into a Ford dealership and buy a new car or truck with no hassle, no hidden cost and drive a new vehicle out.  My wife bought a new Edge SUV two years ago.  Since we had given our older car to my son.  We walked into the dealership and pick out a new Edge off the lot.  We walked back into the dealership told them  the one we wanted and the salesman said, wait a minute I'll be right back.  About 15 minutes he came back, showed us the invoice and the price they wanted for it.  We signed the paper and walked out of the office.  We did pay cash for the car.  We drove out in a new car with no hassle.   :yeah: :trustme:

  But Sweetie Pie, those Jap cars plants are owned by Jap companies.  Yes, their cars are built in America.  But you big dummy, the profit goes back to Japan where they figure what other items they can sell to the stupid Americans and take more money from the USA. :4th3: :4th5:

  Did you know that once the floor  pan is placed on the automated assembly line.  The complete outer shell of the body of the car can be built without one human being on the assembly line or touched by a human hand.  Also all of the robots that puts it together are foreign made.  It sure sound like a good deal for the American economy.   :rant:  Keep buying those foreign cars and you can help America recover from George W. Bush's depression.  :haha:  :haha: It's too bad that it isn't really funny.   :'(

Nope, that is what is stated by the Ford employee plan! I know you have a hard time understanding that but since you claimed you worked there you should know the rules of the plan! By the way,  old man, all cars are done that way to some degree. Ever been to the Corvette plant? They do the same thing but you are so stuck on stupid that you don't realize that!
By the way,ignorant one, the cars I was taking to Ford wasn't that old when we wanted to trade but you just assume they were. You do know what assume means? It means you are making an ass out of youself but that is something you are good at! It was only after we got our kids that we have kept cars longer than 5 years before that we would trade every 3 years. A 3 year old car with less than 45,000 miles is a good deal for anyone except you who probably would snub it!

Quote from: Y on July 06, 2015, 10:29:02 PM
The trick is to do the research on the vehicle.  Every car company has good and bad vehicles.  Also, you need to look at a vehicle as a tool, a tool to get you from point A to point B and back reliably.

Back in the day when engines were all cast iron, transmissions simpler, and cars were made primarily by hand with union labor, you could practically expect any vehicle to give you decades of service if you serviced them properly.  Today it's not the case, you have to research them.

Exactly Y, that is what we did with ours. We researched several and test drove a lot of them. You mentioned your Dodg Caravan that you had, when I met my husband, he had a Dodge Caravan also. I think it was a 1992, it was new at the time but had started rusting also. I think that was an issue they had with them but not sure.

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on July 06, 2015, 10:38:50 PM
Nope, that is what is stated by the Ford employee plan! I know you have a hard time understanding that but since you claimed you worked there you should know the rules of the plan! By the way,  old man, all cars are done that way to some degree. Ever been to the Corvette plant? They do the same thing but you are so stuck on stupid that you don't realize that!
By the way,ignorant one, the cars I was taking to Ford wasn't that old when we wanted to trade but you just assume they were. You do know what assume means? It means you are making an ass out of youself but that is something you are good at! It was only after we got our kids that we have kept cars longer than 5 years before that we would trade every 3 years. A 3 year old car with less than 45,000 miles is a good deal for anyone except you who probably would snub it!

  You must be one of the most stupid college educated asshole I have ever seen.  :finger2:  You don't know anything about the Ford Motor Co. "A" plan.  :kissit:  You are a disgrace to the college you say you went to.   :yes:  They just can't educate a moron.   :mooning:  I sure would love to find you drowning off a pier at Kentucky lake and I had a life saving ring in my hand and no one was around.  Bye, bye.  :kiss:

Quote from: The Troll on July 07, 2015, 06:49:37 PM
 

  You must be one of the most stupid college educated asshole I have ever seen.  :finger2:  You don't know anything about the Ford Motor Co. "A" plan.  :kissit:  You are a disgrace to the college you say you went to.   :yes:  They just can't educate a moron.   :mooning:  I sure would love to find you drowning off a pier at Kentucky lake and I had a life saving ring in my hand and no one was around.  Bye, bye.  :kiss:

Shows your stupidity in that Kentucky Lake doesn't have piers but one thing about it  you are a disgrace as a man!  Actually, you are no man at all but just a little man who thinks he knows it all! Hate to tell you, but you are just pissed that you got called out on the Ford plan and that it is for family only. Now continue showing the ass that you are because it is all you know how to be. I bet your wife is grateful when you go to bed at night so she doesn't have to listen to you!

Quote from: The Troll on July 07, 2015, 06:49:37 PM
 

  You must be one of the most stupid college educated asshole I have ever seen.  :finger2:  You don't know anything about the Ford Motor Co. "A" plan.  :kissit:  You are a disgrace to the college you say you went to.   :yes:  They just can't educate a moron.   :mooning:  I sure would love to find you drowning off a pier at Kentucky lake and I had a life saving ring in my hand and no one was around.  Bye, bye.  :kiss:

Shows your stupidity in that Kentucky Lake doesn't have piers but one thing about you are a disgrace as a man!  Actually, you are no man at all but just a little man who thinks he knows it all! Hate to tell you, but you are just pissed that you got called out on the Ford plan and that it is for family only. Now continue showing the ass that you are because it is all you know how to be. I bet your wife is grateful when you go to bed at night so she doesn't have to listen to you!

  From Ford pricing


Who's eligible for A Plan & Z Plan Pricing?




An eligible Ford employee (A-Plan) or retiree/surviving spouse (Z-Plan) may generate up to four (4) PIN's per calendar year to be used toward the purchase/lease of a new vehicle for them or their eligible family members as noted below:
•All active full-time hourly employees & regular salaried employees, beginning with date of hire.
•All hourly retirees receiving a normal, early (regular or special) or disability retirement benefit, as long as any medical benefits are being received.
•Salaried retirees who retired under the General Retirement Plan, including salaried employees who terminate between the ages of 50-55 and who are eligible to receive certain deferred retirement benefits, are eligible while they are receiving benefits.
•Surviving spouses of employees who died while actively employed and surviving spouses of retirees who retired under the General Retirement Plan, or who are receiving benefits under the Ford-UAW Retirement Plan.
•All U.S. Temporary Part-Time employees (TPTs) are eligible for A-Plan in the U.S.
•Employees on an approved leave of absence, for the duration of the leave or until expiration of any medical benefits.
•Employees on layoff, for the first 12 months of the layoff.
•Employees taking a separation package, complete details on their AXZ-Plan privileges are included in their separation packet.
•All regular part-time hourly and salaried employees who are eligible to receive medical benefits.
•Deferred Vested Retirees while they are receiving a Ford pension check.
•Members of the immediate family of the above. "Immediate family" means the following relatives of the employee or retiree:
•Spouse
• Parents
• Spouse's Parents
• Grandparents
• Spouse's grandparents
• Sons and daughters (including in-laws and step-children)
• Grandchildren
• Brothers and sisters (including in-laws, half and step)
•Employees of approved subsidiary companies and approved affiliated companies as eligibility is defined at the time of approval.
•When both the employee/retiree and his/her spouse are deceased, the surviving family members are no longer eligible.


Now tell me where it says friends on there! Funny, you criticize me but haven't seen you say one word to Palehorse about his buying a Nissan. Face it, the only reason you are criticizing me is because you don't like me and that is okay the feeling is very mutual. You don't understand that nowadays people research, test drive and choose what will work for them and their budgets plus their needs!

You know what really chaps my hide? (I'm going to tell you whether you want to know or not).  :razz:

How can a "former automotive industry" town that was kicked to the curb like a 5 dollar hooker, have the gall to claim that the "automotive industry is coming back strong!", when the employees currently working for said industry, within said town, cannot afford to purchase even the cheapest model they break their backs to manufacture, considering the level at which they are compensated?  :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

Yes. I am talking about Anderson, Indiana. When the hell will the average "Joe & Jane" in that town accept the city's fate of becoming a bedroom community to the almighty Indianapolis? When will they stop crying to the heavens about being wronged by GM? When will they realize their caterwauling has done nothing but make them primary victims in the automotive industry's evil scheme to "build them cheaper and sell them for more"?

These people are being paid at near 3rd world wage levels, (especially when you consider what healthcare premiums are for the coverages they offer), and a number of them are working additional jobs just to keep a roof over their heads and the cupboard partially filled. The extremist conservative cancer spreading throughout this nation has handed the reins of control over to the almighty corporation, and are serving up the lives of each and every single employee and their families as sacrifices at the altar of corporate profit.   :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

The best thing for that town is the damn......build the lake and it might be a decent town one of these days.  The union got too greedy and blew it all.

Last week I went to Meijers. It was crowded, not a problem, I wasn't in a hurry. Did my grocery shopping and got in a line to check out. Two ladies in front of me with a lot of kids with them (I finally counted six of them). Still no problem. They had two carts full of groceries. First lady starts unloading the first cart, gets halfway through and pays for that part with WIC coupons. Starts to unload the rest of the cart and the second lady reappears from behind  me and five other people in line with armloads of more groceries for the second cart, disappears again. First lady then pays for the rest of the first cart with food stamp card. Starts unloading the second cart. Second lady appears briefly and pays for that order with WIC coupons. Begins to unload rest of second cart, disappears again. Then she comes the wrong way to the register with another full cart. She finally pays for the rest of the groceries with food stamp card. It took over 30 minutes. If I could have got out of line I would have left. Oh, and one of the ladies took a little time out to nurse the baby she was carrying during the check out process.

That's bad customer service all the way around.  The cashier should have put a stop to that, and the manager as well, and the manager should have opened another line for you folks.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 07, 2015, 08:47:55 PM
The best thing for that town is the damn......build the lake and it might be a decent town one of these days.  The union got too greedy and blew it all.

Here's another issue you haven't a clue about.  The dam won't help Anderson.  It will ruin one of the most beautiful stretches of that river as well as the wildlife.  It will destroy neighborhoods and damage Mounds Park.  It will also pose a danger to folks downstream.  There's also no Indy market for the water.

On the union issue, you're just an idiot.  Your 'opinion' on that subject has LONG been debunked.

BTW, it's dam not damn.   :wink:

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on July 06, 2015, 10:44:40 PM
Exactly Y, that is what we did with ours. We researched several and test drove a lot of them. You mentioned your Dodg Caravan that you had, when I met my husband, he had a Dodge Caravan also. I think it was a 1992, it was new at the time but had started rusting also. I think that was an issue they had with them but not sure.

Chrysler had some horrendous paint issues at the time.  The clear coat, and then the base coat itself, would peel off leaving the primer and then the rust.  That was the problem with my Caravan.  It had the normal wheel well cancer from the salt we use on the roads up here, but the roof and the hood were down to rust with a little primer left.  The van was only used for hauling equipment so that didn't bother me a lot, but the wheel wells started leaking water to the inside so it was time for it to go before any equipment got ruined.

Quote from: Y on July 08, 2015, 03:49:14 PM
That's bad customer service all the way around.  The cashier should have put a stop to that, and the manager as well, and the manager should have opened another line for you folks.

I agree

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on July 07, 2015, 07:38:12 PM
Shows your stupidity in that Kentucky Lake doesn't have piers but one thing about you are a disgrace as a man!  Actually, you are no man at all but just a little man who thinks he knows it all! Hate to tell you, but you are just pissed that you got called out on the Ford plan and that it is for family only. Now continue showing the ass that you are because it is all you know how to be. I bet your wife is grateful when you go to bed at night so she doesn't have to listen to you!

  Again you are a total dumb ass.  No piers?  What a fool.   :liar2:  My wife and I, my sister and brother in law went to Kentucky Lake more that once and the cabins we rented had many docks where the owner kept his boats he rented for fishing.  Also the house boats that you can rent on Kentucky Lake have piers.  Just where in hell do you come up with such loony ideas.  :liar2:

  Loony Toons, I do have a plan from Ford so friends can buy Fords.   :yes:  Thank god, you are not my friend.   :@#%&: Hill Billy. :music1: :guitarist: :music1: :boohoo: :music1:  How about a little drum roll.   :drummer:   Your are a real bull shit artist.  :yes:  Mrs.:hogslop:

Quote from: The Troll on July 08, 2015, 05:00:31 PM
  Again you are a total dumb ass.  No piers?  What a fool.   :liar2:  My wife and I, my sister and brother in law went to Kentucky Lake more that once and the cabins we rented had many docks where the owner kept his boats he rented for fishing.  Also the house boats that you can rent on Kentucky Lake have piers.  Just where in hell do you come up with such loony ideas.  :liar2:

  Loony Toons, I do have a plan from Ford so friends can buy Fords.   :yes:  Thank god, you are not my friend.   :@#%&: Hill Billy. :music1: :guitarist: :music1: :boohoo: :music1:  How about a little drum roll.   :drummer:   Your are a real bull shit artist.  :yes:  Mrs.:hogslop:

Dumbass, docks are different than piers to anyone who knows that. When most people think of piers they think of boardwalks and not docks. Leave to an idiot like you to not know the difference!  Most anyone who owns boats knows that you dock a boat at a dock not a pier! 
By the way, look up a definition of pier- an intermediate support the adjacent ends of two bridge spans. A structure that extends into navigable water for use to protect or form a harbor.
A dock is a structure extending alongshore or out from the shore into a body to which boats may be moored.
You are just pissed that I showed the Ford plan and like I said I know the only reason you are criticizing me is because you don't like me and like I said that is fine because if your ass was on fire,I wouldn't throw water on you to save you sorry ass!  I bet your wife loves when you go to sleep at night so she doesn't have to look at you or listen to you be the jerk that you are! I actually feel sorry for her being married to an a-hole like you who thinks you know it all! Sorry to say, you know nothing!

Quote from: Y on July 08, 2015, 04:03:46 PM
Chrysler had some horrendous paint issues at the time.  The clear coat, and then the base coat itself, would peel off leaving the primer and then the rust.  That was the problem with my Caravan.  It had the normal wheel well cancer from the salt we use on the roads up here, but the roof and the hood were down to rust with a little primer left.  The van was only used for hauling equipment so that didn't bother me a lot, but the wheel wells started leaking water to the inside so it was time for it to go before any equipment got ruined.

I am not sure what the problems that his Caravan had  and because shortly after we met, he traded it for a truck that we kept for 7-9 years. It was a great little Chevy truck!

Quote from: Y on July 08, 2015, 03:57:15 PM
Here's another issue you haven't a clue about.  The dam won't help Anderson.  It will ruin one of the most beautiful stretches of that river as well as the wildlife.  It will destroy neighborhoods and damage Mounds Park.  It will also pose a danger to folks downstream.  There's also no Indy market for the water.

On the union issue, you're just an idiot.  Your 'opinion' on that subject has LONG been debunked.

. . .

I'll have to somewhat disagree with some of this.

1. The dam will help Anderson understand its role in the future. One that has it serving as the bedroom community for Indianapolis that it already is but refuses to admit to. Then there is the loss of revenue the city continues to heap upon the shoulders of those that remain within the community via inflation of property values for taxation purposes, increases to utility costs (water, sewer, and electricity which the city wholly owns).

It will increase revenue streams via the exponential increase to property values that will result from a recreational body of water surrounded by (at least partially) high-value residential property tracts. That equates to higher tax rates/dollars.

It (should) will result in reduced rates for residential water, and modernized treatment facilities to treat said water.

It will provide a much needed recreational revenue stream via the "user pays" system already in place for co-managed water-ways (state and local/private) which could potentially become lucrative if the fishery is properly managed and allowed to mature. (Long term).

2. The "beauty" of the targeted stretch of river is subjective. Yes, it is the "natural" (and man made) course the river chose for itself, however the fishery itself is mostly rough fish (carp, suckers, etc.) and provides no intrinsic value to anyone. Moreover, the level of pollution (residual from historic bad ecological practices, as well as current man made trash levels), represents an increasing challenge to the antiquated control measures being used toward "managing" it. All of this means that in order to maintain and increase the "natural" beauty that stretch of river is capable of, requires a lot of man-made intervention and work in order to undo the damage centuries of bad habits and practices have imposed upon it. (Likely a similar or larger amount than what the proposed dam will cost). In fact, I speculate that the costs overwhelm the city's budget by far, just to try to keep things cleaned up.

Then we have the ever present danger surrounding the lack of flood controls along the White River on the northern end. This lack of control has eliminated a large swath of land along it's pathway for potential residential / Commercial / agricultural use due to the large flood plain it creates. Granted, a dam will not eliminate this risk totally, but it would go a long way toward exercising a larger measure of control over water levels for miles upstream and downstream; and has the potential to decreasing risk levels along a large swath of the river to a more manageable level. Returning the land toward more useful endeavors.

3.Wildlife ruination is a stretch in my mind. It isn't as if humanity would be dooming the spotted owl to extinction via the creation of a new body of water. Perhaps a species of bats (or two) could be impacted by this lake, but they can fly and it isn't as if they have nowhere else to go to. In fact, I'd say they would eventually move back once the construction is over. . . Indigenous species will adapt. . .

4. Yes, it will flood a portion of Mounds State Park; a facility that enjoys only marginal use compared to other sate parks due to it's lack of a viable waterway containing gamefish. I suggest that once things settle down and the lake reaches normal levels, and the fishery matures, that Mounds State Park will become a destination that will see an increased level of use, visitors, and yes, increased revenues. (Enabling them to expand beyond its current borders if desired, by buying up additional land).

Some of the "neighborhoods" that will be eliminated by this project ma very well need to be eliminated anyway. Some are rift with empty / abandoned homes, and a number of them are outdated domiciles in desperate need of updating; which they will not get due to the depressed economy in the area. Yes, some people will lose their homes, and some of them may be life-long homes. But they will be compensated for them, and most of them at a level far and above what it cost them to purchase that home. There will be cases wherein they will face a loss, but as Spock so aptly put it, "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one."

I myself have been forced to sell properties I own (or co-own) in the state of Kentucky. Lands that have been in my family for centuries. All for a state road project that will eliminate a long stretch of very dangerous, switchback roadway. I don't like it, nor does most of my family. But the majority of us recognize that very situation, that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, and so we are selling it, (or have sold it). It is for the greater good and the overall safety of those living there. . . None of us are getting independently wealthy from it, but we don't feel like we're getting robbed either. It's sad, yes. But once the work is completed we will be able to get to our remaining lands in a lot safer manner, and the dozens of people killed and maimed due to the existing dangerous roadway will be drastically reduced as well.

5. The "danger" to those living downstream would be minor compared to the danger present today. (See flood controls #2 above) As with any man made structure there is always the potential for failure. However I submit that with modern technology and engineering, the likelihood of a dam failure is far less than that of the current level of flooding present due to the lack of control. There are no salmon swimming upstream to spawn. And I couldn't care less about carp. . .

6. There is indeed a market for the water, and a need. One only has to look to California's present day situation to see what is coming this way eventually, and it is in the best interests of each and every resident of Central Indiana to do what is necessary today in order to prepare for it before it gets here.

Yes, we're having an El Nino summer to this point, but that will not last beyond the present cycle. The trend is 180 degrees opposite what we are experiencing right now, and as our population levels increase so do the water needs. We are just one summer removed from our own water conservation crises within communities like Carmel and Indianapolis, and that is going to be back with a vengeance. And in my opinion we would be better served to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it. (Just ask the people in Cali about this. Tom Selleck is presently facing charges of stealing water).

Another source for water is needed in this area of Central Indiana, and if we wait for the crises before recognizing it then we will pay the price for our ignorance surrounding this fact.

7. On the union issue we agree. . .  :wink:

http://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2014/08/08/ind-chamber-release-study-states-water-supply/13764953/ (http://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2014/08/08/ind-chamber-release-study-states-water-supply/13764953/)

http://www.indystar.com/story/news/local/hamilton-county/2015/06/23/citizens-build-new-reservoir-fishers/29156955/ (http://www.indystar.com/story/news/local/hamilton-county/2015/06/23/citizens-build-new-reservoir-fishers/29156955/)

http://www.in.gov/dnr/5286.htm (http://www.in.gov/dnr/5286.htm)

http://www.indychamber.com/files/2813/9808/8522/Water_Synthesis_Report_April_2010.pdf (http://www.indychamber.com/files/2813/9808/8522/Water_Synthesis_Report_April_2010.pdf)

http://www.inindianawater.org/news/indy-star-projected-water-shortage-prompts-citizens-to-build-new-reservoir-in-fishers/ (http://www.inindianawater.org/news/indy-star-projected-water-shortage-prompts-citizens-to-build-new-reservoir-in-fishers/)

As I have said numerous times within this forum, the people of Anderson should embrace this project and their future, or prepare to watch as another community once again snatches opportunity from our hands.

People in Delaware County are taking a similar tact toward this project to that held by the masses in Anderson. Their position has some measure of validation given the way Prairie Creek Reservoir was forced upon them; however, they refuse to recognize the recreational value and income stream that body of water has begun developing into given the vastly improving fishery it now supports.

Again, we see the "immediate satisfaction" demands of modern civilization blinding them to the long range opportunity out there.

Even the business community in Anderson has seen what is coming, and in anticipation of it they have begun moving south; Hobby Lobby, Ponderosa, and if the rumors are true even the Roadhouse will soon be out of the targeted area and in new digs on the south end. Most of the new growth in retail is cropping up south as well. And if the average Joe in Anderson had the slightest ability to critically analyze the situation, they would have forced the City Council to support the initiative to incorporate that stretch of land along I 69 between Exits 222 and 214, so that a new Mall could be established there. One that would compete with Munice, Castleton, and Hamilton Towne Center. . . Again, increasing the revenue streams in this city and invigorating the economy. . . But that's another bitch. . .

I'd say Pendleton is more of a Indy bedroom community than Anderson.  Anderson proper no longer has enough nice neighborhoods to fall under the BC heading even if it may be true most residents go southwest for work.

AFAIK, there are no real estate plans in place for a proposed lake shore; there are no plans for any water treatment plant; there is no buyer for any water - the city uses wells and Indy is building its own new reservoir; there are no plans to deal with the pollution from the mall area that will taint the lake; there are no plans for recreation on the lake, and as polluted as it surely will be, it prolly won't even be allowed; there are no plans to stock the lake, and it will have to be stocked as fish will no longer be able to migrate upstream; ad infinitum.

As it is, all that exists is merely a proposal for a dam and a reservoir - nothing else that would be of benefit financially or otherwise.

Having actually canoed and fished that stretch of the river from Muncie to Anderson and points south, I can testify to the beauty of that part of the river and the wildlife existing there.  Decent fishing from Anderson south was ruined by the chemical spill in 1999 but is well on it's way to recovery, but will take time. 

The areas mainly impacted will be Irondale - which has a long history and by no means abandoned - and the riverfront neighborhood east of Cincinnati Ave., and the reason it's mainly abandoned is because .gov has been buying up the properties there for some time.

From what I can tell, the dam is just another Anderson boondoggle like the 'Snake', the downtown 'mall', the MLK parkway etc..

Today's lake level report (7/17/2015):
Mississinewa: 40.2 feet above summer pool; release of 1484 CFS.
Salamonie: 36.9 feet above summer pool; release of 3032 CFS.
Roush: 47.0 feet above summer pool; release of 5617 CFS.

:mad:

 


         :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: Still no boating and the parks are closed.  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

   I wonder if I can get my $35 lake permit the state makes you put on your boat to use the lake.   :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :rant:

Quote from: The Troll on July 19, 2015, 11:13:44 PM



         :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: Still no boating and the parks are closed.  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

   I wonder if I can get my $35 lake permit the state makes you put on your boat to use the lake.   :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :rant:

If you are talking about the launch sticker, I believe you can likely get one at any DNR facility; you used to be able to get them at the BMV too, but I am not sure they do that anymore. . .

You can purchase the launch permits online here: http://stores.innsgifts.com/watercraft-exp-12-31-15/ (http://stores.innsgifts.com/watercraft-exp-12-31-15/)

In case you do not trust the link above, go to the DNR website here: http://www.in.gov/dnr/parklake/5058.htm (http://www.in.gov/dnr/parklake/5058.htm)  And scroll down to Launch Permits and the link there will take you to the one above.

Quote from: Palehorse on July 20, 2015, 06:25:38 PM
If you are talking about the launch sticker, I believe you can likely get one at any DNR facility; you used to be able to get them at the BMV too, but I am not sure they do that anymore. . .

You can purchase the launch permits online here: http://stores.innsgifts.com/watercraft-exp-12-31-15/ (http://stores.innsgifts.com/watercraft-exp-12-31-15/)

In case you do not trust the link above, go to the DNR website here: http://www.in.gov/dnr/parklake/5058.htm (http://www.in.gov/dnr/parklake/5058.htm)  And scroll down to Launch Permits and the link there will take you to the one above.

  I have got one and I have had for for years.   But until this year I have got my boat on the water.  It seems to me if you can't use it, you should get your money back.   :mad: :mad: :mad:

Quote from: The Troll on July 21, 2015, 05:55:17 PM
  I have got one and I have had for for years.   But until this year I have got my boat on the water.  It seems to me if you can't use it, you should get your money back.   :mad: :mad: :mad:

I hear yah. End of July and you cannot get your watercraft onto the water because there is so much of it! Hell, I have been considering getting another boat myself, to replace the steel horse, but given the way things are going this year I do believe I'll just wait to see what next year brings. . . :yes:

Quote from: Palehorse on July 21, 2015, 05:58:27 PM
I hear yah. End of July and you cannot get your watercraft onto the water because there is so much of it! Hell, I have been considering getting another boat myself, to replace the steel horse, but given the way things are going this year I do believe I'll just wait to see what next year brings. . . :yes:

   If it will just quit raining they can lower the lake and other lakes very quickly.  But the Wabash River is going to stay up all the rest of summer.    :sailor: :titanic:

  But you do know, that the best time to buy a boat is in the fall of the year.  People can't play with them, they find out just how high the payment is on their boat is and they are going to have a place to store it.  I bought my 23 ft Rinker Cuddy Cabin boat in the fall.   :sweatdrop: :sweatdrop: :sweatdrop: :sweatdrop: :uncle:  All the guy wanted was for me to pay what he owed on it.   Good deal!     :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

Quote from: The Troll on July 21, 2015, 06:38:12 PM

   If it will just quit raining they can lower the lake and other lakes very quickly.  But the Wabash River is going to stay up all the rest of summer.    :sailor: :titanic:

  But you do know, that the best time to buy a boat is in the fall of the year.  People can't play with them, they find out just how high the payment is on their boat is and they are going to have a place to store it.  I bought my 23 ft Rinker Cuddy Cabin boat in the fall.   :sweatdrop: :sweatdrop: :sweatdrop: :sweatdrop: :uncle:  All the guy wanted was for me to pay what he owed on it.   Good deal!     :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

My issue and the main reason I got rid of my boats, was and is not having enough time to use them.

I am however reconsidering that because there is a body of water that is not too far from me, that several friends tell me is chock full of walleye. This interests me very much, but as I am sure you know, the best way to catch walleye requires a boat.

I'm more interested in a 14 foot semi-v hulled boat and a 25 hp motor to push it with. Doesn't have to be new but it does have to run and stay afloat.

I agree on the timing thing, and bought my Bayliner and Bass Tracker boats just before hard water season while living up north. I got great deals on both of them that way, as you suggest, and back when I enjoyed a generous annual vacation allotment I used them frequently and ran the hell out of them.

The Bayliner was my large water boat and it went with me on most of my spring and fall northern trips. The Bass Tracker was a 14.5 foot deep V that I used mostly for musky fishing trips in Illinois, Indiana, and Kentucky.  But once the vacation was gone I lost the ability to use them the way I wanted to. Hell, that Bayliner did not see the water for 5 years, so I sold it in the spring of the 6th. And made money on the deal. I sold the Bass Tracker to my cousin on the cheap, because he is family and he is just as much of a fisherman as I ever was or will be.

This time I'll just get something stripped down to drop on the local reservoirs in central Indiana. And I am in no hurry to get it either. I'll wait for the right deal to crop up and likely have it in the garage sometime before this winter's El Nino event hits us.  :yes:

I'm the kind of guy that would spend 25 years stationed in Hawaii, retire and move back to the midwest, get onto a gameshow, and win and all expense paid trip to Hawaii!  :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

Quote from: Palehorse on July 21, 2015, 07:25:10 PM
I'm the kind of guy that would spend 25 years stationed in Hawaii, retire and move back to the midwest, get onto a gameshow, and win and all expense paid trip to Hawaii!  :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

  Some times there are things that are too hard to bare.  :uncle:   :wink:  :cry:

  That like the contest where second prize was a free trip to Kentucky.  First prize was a free trip to Kentucky, but you don't have to go.  :drummer:

Those "anti-Iran Deal" commercial spots running are a new development given the tsunami of cash our ELECTED officials are encountering. Rarely, if ever in the history of this nation, have we been subjected to televised ads surrounding any position on a piece of legislation sitting before congress. At least not until the SCOTUS opened the coffers of corporate Amerika to them.

And seriously? What alternatives or "better deal" do "we" really want surrounding Iran?

War? Have we not had enough of it?

Is there no longer any place at the table for diplomacy to actually work its magic?

Have we not spent enough of my money trying to kill human beings already? Do we really need another war so costly that our great-grandchildren will be paying for it? (If there is even a planet left for them to live upon).

WTF!???? :rant:

Someone that I considered a work friend just admitted to me that she not only supports Donald Trump but is excited that he's running. I try not to let political opinions get in the way of friendships, but I can't get pay this. :no:

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on July 27, 2015, 08:37:30 PM
Someone that I considered a work friend just admitted to me that she not only supports Donald Trump but is excited that he's running. I try not to let political opinions get in the way of friendships, but I can't get pay this. :no:

  Help her along on that idea.   :wink: :biggrin:  Let old Trump win the primary and watch the Democrats win in all 50 states.   :yes: :yes: :biggrin:

Quote from: The Troll on July 29, 2015, 02:13:16 PM
  Help her along on that idea.   :wink: :biggrin:  Let old Trump win the primary and watch the Democrats win in all 50 states.   :yes: :yes: :biggrin:

I'm not as sure of such an outcome as I was a week or so back. I know polls are pretty much spam, but I admit to no small measure of trepidation surrounding the results showing that idiot leading among the GOP candidates presently; despite stepping on his dick and offending just about everyone within a position of power within the party upper echelon. . .

But then again, I shouldn't be surprised. Even the SCOTUS has enabled legislation and elected office to be sold to the highest bidder, so it only stands to reason that the sheeple will blindly follow suit!  :rant:

Been overcast and looking like rain for most of the day. . . And we've been craving some of my hand-made cheese-burgers hot off the grill.

Of course, once I got the grill all fired up and the burgers made up, it starts raining like a cow pissing on a flat rock. . .  :mad: :rant:

(I made them anyway. . . and they were good).

Quote from: Palehorse on August 09, 2015, 05:45:46 PM
Been overcast and looking like rain for most of the day. . . And we've been craving some of my hand-made cheese-burgers hot off the grill.

Of course, once I got the grill all fired up and the burgers made up, it starts raining like a cow pissing on a flat rock. . .  :mad: :rant:

(I made them anyway. . . and they were good).

I laugh everytime I read that cow pissing on a flat rock.

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on August 09, 2015, 06:03:34 PM
I laugh everytime I read that cow pissing on a flat rock.

Well, it appears you're going to get to see it in action as the remnants of Patricia rolls through your area first, then ours tomorrow and Wednesday.

It should be pissing like a cow on a flat rock all across Kentucky and central Indiana over the next 2 days!  :rant:

I am SOOOO sick of reading and hearing from Dem-O-Craps and Repug-ni-cans that I could just spontaneously combust into stardust!

These jack-holes are now filling my mailbox with propaganda, which I then have to pay to have hauled away!  :rant: :rant: :rant:
(Because we're presently under a red flag warning due to drought).  :rant:

Well the remnants of Patricia should remedy your drought issues.

Quote from: Locutus on October 26, 2015, 05:59:17 PM
Well the remnants of Patricia should remedy your drought issues.

For the time being. Want to guess what I will be using for tender to start a campfire this weekend?  :icon_twisted:

Political mailings?  ;D

Quote from: Locutus on October 26, 2015, 06:16:07 PM
Political mailings?  ;D

:devilish: :headbang: :devilish: :devil29:

  My bitch is how the greedy corporations have ruined television.    :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:  If you have a recorder and you watch a hour show and if you take all of the commercials out.  You can watch the whole show in twenty five minutes.   :rant:  It's like going to a Flea Market and looking at all of the junk and trash.   :mad: :mad: :mad: :rant:  I don't know how anyone can stand to watch TV without a recorder.  I get sick when I see Flo selling insurance.  :puke:

Seriously? Starbucks chooses to take a sublime approach toward the holiday season by simply making their cups a holiday shade of red. No nativities, no swanky reindeer, no idiotic snow-people. . . Just plain old holiday red. (A move I heartily endorse as a step toward toning down the commercialization and religiosity injected into the holiday season).

Smart business move; until the zealots decided they are offended over the lack of religious, and/or holiday "decorations" upon the holiday red cups.

I'm just over this horse shit. You don't like their cups, go to Dunkin' Donuts, Speedway, or better yet, make your own damned coffee! Just keep your commercialization and religiosity out of my holiday season thank you very much!  :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

Starbucks- you make my scalp crawl but I applaud your tone down efforts!

Quote from: Palehorse on November 09, 2015, 07:25:43 PM
Seriously? Starbucks chooses to take a sublime approach toward the holiday season by simply making their cups a holiday shade of red. No nativities, no swanky reindeer, no idiotic snow-people. . . Just plain old holiday red. (A move I heartily endorse as a step toward toning down the commercialization and religiosity injected into the holiday season).

Smart business move; until the zealots decided they are offended over the lack of religious, and/or holiday "decorations" upon the holiday red cups.

I'm just over this horse shit. You don't like their cups, go to Dunkin' Donuts, Speedway, or better yet, make your own damned coffee! Just keep your commercialization and religiosity out of my holiday season thank you very much!  :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

Starbucks- you make my scalp crawl but I applaud your tone down efforts!

Goes to show you how some Christians are so desperate to show the supposed "war on Christians" and "war on Christmas" that doesn't exist.  Get ready for Facebook to be  flooded with memes about not being able to say "Merry Christmas" and how "Christ is being taken out of Christmas".    Don't people have anything better to do with their time? 

This douchebag here is the one that started all of that Starbucks shit.

https://www.facebook.com/joshua.feuerstein.5/

He's fucking CRAZY!

Quote from: Locutus on November 09, 2015, 08:35:21 PM
This douchebag here is the one that started all of that Starbucks shit.

https://www.facebook.com/joshua.feuerstein.5/ (https://www.facebook.com/joshua.feuerstein.5/)

He's fucking CRAZY!

I agree.  :yes:

I can think of several reasons for me NOT to like Starbucks besides putting merry Christmas on the side of their overpriced, over-rated cups of coffee.........  ;)

The only thing I am tired of is companies too worried about being politically correct.......there is nothing wrong to stand for something. 

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 10, 2015, 08:32:42 AM


I can think of several reasons for me NOT to like Starbucks besides putting merry Christmas on the side of their overpriced, over-rated cups of coffee.........  ;)

Me too.  I can't even remember when I had my last cup of Starbucks coffee.  If I'm getting coffee out, I'd much rather stop by a local diner to get a cup, or if I must go to a chain, then Waffle House is my preference for coffee. 

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 10, 2015, 08:32:42 AM
I agree.  :yes:

I can think of several reasons for me NOT to like Starbucks besides putting merry Christmas on the side of their overpriced, over-rated cups of coffee.........  ;)

The only thing I am tired of is companies too worried about being politically correct.......there is nothing wrong to stand for something.

I agree. I can get better coffee at a convience store or even a place like Locutus said.

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on November 10, 2015, 03:30:55 PM
I agree. I can get better coffee at a convience store or even a place like Locutus said.

There is a little mom & pop diner in Pendleton that makes THE best coffee ever.....like $1.50.  I will take that any day.

I like the coffee at the Bob.

What's the Bob?

Starbucks coffee by the cup is too strong for me, but there is one of their products that I really like: the little glass bottles of coffee that taste like chocolate milk with a dash of instant coffee. Excellent cold. Expensive but one of my self-indulgences. I buy them by the carton at Costco and keep one or two in the fridge for when I go out, especially when I travel.  :yes:

Quote from: libby on November 10, 2015, 05:27:22 PM
Starbucks coffee by the cup is too strong for me, but there is one of their products that I really like: the little glass bottles of coffee that taste like chocolate milk with a dash of instant coffee. Excellent cold. Expensive but one of my self-indulgences. I buy them by the carton at Costco and keep one or two in the fridge for when I go out, especially when I travel.  :yes:

It's too strong for me too; hence the "you make my scalp crawl" comment somewhere here. . .

White Chocolate Mocha . . . THAT is the one thing I will never pass up at Starbucks. I absolutely love them, but sparingly.

For my daily intake, my Keurig is the one thing I will NOT do without. (I know. . . environmentally a beast, so sue me). Since I am the only one in this house that drinks lifer's juice, it is a great solution that prevents me from wasting pots of coffee. I'm typically a one LARGE cup kinda guy anyway so it works really well for me.

I had kicked coffee completely 3 or 4 years ago, having done without for nearly 2 years. . . But once I got my BP issue back under control, and after securing the blessing of my cardiologist, I went back to it and have not looked back since.

You wouldn't like me without coffee at this point. No one talks to me, even family, until they see that mug in my hand. . .  :icon_twisted:

Quote from: libby on November 10, 2015, 05:27:22 PM
Starbucks coffee by the cup is too strong for me, but there is one of their products that I really like: the little glass bottles of coffee that taste like chocolate milk with a dash of instant coffee. Excellent cold. Expensive but one of my self-indulgences. I buy them by the carton at Costco and keep one or two in the fridge for when I go out, especially when I travel.  :yes:

Aldi's is just as good and less expensive.

Quote from: Locutus on November 10, 2015, 04:08:19 PM
What's the Bob?

Maybe she meant Bob Evans?! I have gone to Dunkin Donuts a time or two and gotten coffee when they were running a $1.00 special but I honestly can get better coffee at home or even our local convience store. One of our local stores has almost made it into a coffee/cappuccino bar where the coffee and cappuccino is made and I can get a 24 oz. for .85 cents.

Quote from: Locutus on November 10, 2015, 04:08:19 PM
What's the Bob?

Bob Evans.

Purplelady was right!  ;D

Quote from: Locutus on November 13, 2015, 11:25:19 PM
Purplelady was right!  ;D

It was a guess. I know a few places have small family runned business called Bob's Diner or Bob's Cafe. Thought maybe it was one of those.

I don't care much for Bob Evans, so I stay away from there.  There isn't one close around here anyway. 

Quote from: Locutus on November 14, 2015, 01:52:06 PM
I don't care much for Bob Evans, so I stay away from there.  There isn't one close around here anyway.

Not a fan of it either.

I did, however, go horseback riding at Bob Evan's farm outside of Chillicothe, Ohio one time.  ;D

Quote from: Locutus on November 14, 2015, 03:06:32 PM
I did, however, go horseback riding at Bob Evan's farm outside of Chillicothe, Ohio one time.  ;D

Cool

We go to the Bob at least twice a week. Mostly for breakfast. We have a favorite server and we never feel hurried.

Quote from: Anne on November 14, 2015, 10:36:41 PM
We go to the Bob at least twice a week. Mostly for breakfast. We have a favorite server and we never feel hurried.

Her name wouldn't start with a "B" would it? If so she is a great waitress.

Quote from: me on November 15, 2015, 06:36:21 AM
Her name wouldn't start with a "B" would it? If so she is a great waitress.

Yes, followed her to the Bob from Eva's and before that the Waffle House. She is a really nice person.

Fucking power is out AGAIN!  :mad:

Quote from: Palehorse on November 15, 2015, 04:29:50 PM
Fucking power is out AGAIN!  :mad:

Now it's back on. . .  :rant:

Quote from: Palehorse on November 15, 2015, 04:29:50 PM
Fucking power is out AGAIN!  :mad:

It knocked our house out for about an hour too!

Quote from: Locutus on November 14, 2015, 01:52:06 PM
I don't care much for Bob Evans, so I stay away from there.  There isn't one close around here anyway.

  Well, I like their country steak and mashed  potatoes with a lot of gravy over both.      :drool2: :drool1:

Quote from: The Troll on November 17, 2015, 06:14:29 PM
  Well, I like their country steak and mashed  potatoes with a lot of gravy over both.      :drool2: :drool1:

Well I haven't had them for awhile.  Maybe next time I pass by one, I'll give it another try. 

This shit will turn into WW III in short order!  :mad:

Fucking Comcrap!  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

When is someone going to shut that blowhard Trump up?  :rolleyes:

Quote from: Palehorse on November 25, 2015, 02:58:51 PM
When is someone going to shut that blowhard Trump up?  :rolleyes:

Not going to happen....he is only getting stronger.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 25, 2015, 03:04:56 PM
Not going to happen....he is only getting stronger.

He's nothing but a blowhard with a very bad combover.  :rant:

And before some of you begin bawling about being tired. . . here's why:

A common assertion in the US is that heavy consumption of turkey meat results in drowsiness, due to high levels of tryptophan contained in turkey. However, the amount of tryptophan in turkey is comparable to that contained in most other meats.

Furthermore, post-meal drowsiness may have more to do with what is consumed along with the turkey, carbohydrates in particular. It has been demonstrated in both animal models and humans that ingestion of a meal rich in carbohydrates triggers release of insulin. Insulin in turn stimulates the uptake of large neutral branched-chain amino acids (BCAA), but not tryptophan (an aromatic amino acid) into muscle, increasing the ratio of tryptophan to BCAA in the blood stream. The resulting increased tryptophan ratio reduces competition at the large neutral amino acid transporter (which transports both BCAA and aromatic amino acids), resulting in more uptake of tryptophan across the blood–brain barrier into the cerebrospinal fluid (CSF).

Once in the CSF, tryptophan is converted into serotonin in the raphe nuclei by the normal enzymatic pathway. The resultant serotonin is further metabolised into melatonin by the pineal gland. Hence, this data suggests that "feast-induced drowsiness"— or postprandial somnolence — may be the result of a heavy meal rich in carbohydrates, which indirectly increases the production of sleep-promoting melatonin in the brain.

You have been warned. . .  :icon_twisted: Happy Thanksgiving Everyone!  :turk:

Pretty friggin' sad when people open the doors wide to their marriage on the rocks on Facebook.

You're not a public figure or even a public interest! Why must you fly your skid marked undergarments out in public?  :rant: :rant:

Narcissism and drama.  That's it; that's all.

All we need now, for a true hoosier home-grown catastrophe, is for the temps to dive down below freezing and the snowman to start pooping. That way, when it warms up again we'll have ten times the frigging water we have right now!  :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

Another day, and another reason to regret the city I grew up within; specifically the culture it nurtured in many I grew up along with. . .

After a Saturday that saw the Cincinnati Bengals unable to control themselves personally, and throw away their playoff opportunity by eliminating the Steelers, I have to read a racist filled rant on social media from a childhood friend filled with the N word.

What happened yesterday to Cincinnati was nothing but a symptom of a typical professional athlete's self-centeredness, and a culture of violence the league nurtures.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the NFL is now a wholly owned subsidiary of the WWF. (Subsidized by the pharmaceutical industry).  :mad: :mad: :mad:

If the League leadership doesn't hand out hefty suspensions on BOTH sides of that game yesterday, they are destined to watch the league continue to decline.  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

I so agree PH. The whole game was a disgrace to watch and especially from pro players. I understand it is an important game but they were a disgrace to watch.

Once again I am going to bitch about the lethargic approach toward snow removal operations within the central Indiana roads I have to travel each day for work. . .

Now Indy may be doing a better job of things, but given the 30+ vehicle pile-up we had on Westbound 70 this morning, the state seems to be laying down on the job. . . As I myself experienced each day this week on 67 traveling through Delaware County. . .

Not a plow in sight the whole way, the road was covered in snow with ice beneath it this morning, just as it was on Monday. Only worse.

I passed 3 different LEO's along the way, and each one engaged in dealing with spin outs that landed in the ditch. . . And each one involving a blue-hair in a Buick, to my surprise. . .  :rant: (And that was before I got through Daleville!)

Quote from: Palehorse on January 12, 2016, 06:25:35 PM
Once again I am going to bitch about the lethargic approach toward snow removal operations within the central Indiana roads I have to travel each day for work. . .

Now Indy may be doing a better job of things, but given the 30+ vehicle pile-up we had on Westbound 70 this morning, the state seems to be laying down on the job. . . As I myself experienced each day this week on 67 traveling through Delaware County. . .

Not a plow in sight the whole way, the road was covered in snow with ice beneath it this morning, just as it was on Monday. Only worse.

I passed 3 different LEO's along the way, and each one engaged in dealing with spin outs that landed in the ditch. . . And each one involving a blue-hair in a Buick, to my surprise. . .  :rant: (And that was before I got through Daleville!)

Did Indiana learn from PA on how to remove snow from the highways?  Fortunately, the people at Penn DoT have leaned their lesson from a 2007 snowstorm that closed 50 miles of I-81 and I-78 and left motorists stranded in their cars and trucks for 2 days.  The governor had to call in the National Guard to rescue them.  They've gotten much better since then. Still not the best at it, but better. 

Now if only my township could learn how to clean off the roads.   >:(

I think they all learn from Kentucky.

We don't have such problems in Florida.  :razz:

Quote from: Locutus on January 13, 2016, 03:09:03 PM
We don't have such problems in Florida.  :razz:

Hahaha, no just sand ants!

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on January 13, 2016, 03:30:40 PM
Hahaha, no just sand fire ants!

^^ Fixed that for you.  ;D

Quote from: Locutus on January 13, 2016, 04:19:51 PM
^^ Fixed that for you.  ;D

Thanks! Couldn't remember what they were called

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on January 13, 2016, 04:34:20 PM
Thanks! Couldn't remember what they were called

I lived in Jacksonville for about a year, and the thing I remember most, other than the two showers a day heat and humidity, was the roaches  :o.

-1 to 50 degrees over the span of two days; and the next 2 will see us go back down to 0 by Sunday night. . .  :rant: :rant: :rant:

I waited all week to watch/hear Willie Nelson on PBS tonight -- he received The Library of Congress Gershwin Prize for Popular Song -- but what a disappointment. I thought they'd let him sing or at least play recordings by him, but no. All I heard other than lots of talk before I turned away was somebody else singing a couple of his songs, and what a difference without Willie's unique voice. Sounded kinda like swing.  :rolleyes:

Quote from: Locutus on January 13, 2016, 04:19:51 PM
^^ Fixed that for you.  ;D

  Plus, sand fleas, noseeums (the nasty little bastards), Snow Birds :wheel: driving slow and into things, squawking ducks, gated communities and Mexicans.    :bang:   :grin2:  :tiphat:

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I am going to BITCH here, so fair warning. I am mad as hell over this. . .  :mad: :mad: :mad:

4 years ago I had a temporary employee working for me. He is a USMC Veteran of the ongoing theatre of operations, and had recently been disabled and discharged after a 14 year career and several tours in the middle-east. He is a very personable man and father of 2 children, (then), 3 now.

I got to know him because we share some personal history, which we found out during our conversations, and as is the case with the majority of Veterans he displayed an exemplary level of focus and drive, along with a strong penchant for following instructions; written or verbal. He was (is) a damned fine worker and a decent human being.

Over time, we shared some personal stories around our experiences, and one I was honored to hear of surrounded how he came to be disabled and honorably discharged from his service.

He and his unit were deployed to clear buildings within a city in Iraq. As they were doing so one of the walls of a building they were in the process of clearing collapsed, pinning him by his left ankle under some bricks. He said he felt a snap, but his unit cleared him of the bricks on him, and although it hurt, he was the SGT in charge of the unit, so he had the medic tape his ankle up, and they finished their assignment. That evening his CO decided that since he was short (2 weeks left in the deployment), he was packed up and sent back to Kuwait where the medical staff declared his ankle broken.

He was sent to Germany, where they re-set his ankle, x-rayed it, and after a few days cast it and sent him back state-side for R & R.

Once the DR's declared his ankle healed, he was re-assigned to another unit that was deploying back to the litter box. Once there again, he began experiencing pain in the ankle, and swelling. The docs gave him pain meds. The pain persisted. He became dependent upon the meds, so went through rehab for that and his still killing him ankle. After countless medical appointments, he was sent back home; and after another long series of medical appointments and x-rays, they informed him he was being medically discharged and declared disabled. . . This was 2004.

I had an opening for full time employment come up, and he applied; as did every other temp on campus. I interviewed 25 people for that opening, a lot of them equal in skill-sets to him, but not in initiative and attitude. He got the job and I was damned happy to have him on my team. And his work spoke for itself.

I got a new position a year later and took over another department. It was not long before I had several openings in my new area, and he and 4 other veterans that were members of my old team applied and got the jobs. They followed me.

He has continued to have severe pain in that ankle, and this whole time he has gone to the VA to have it looked at. They'd x-ray it, then tell him he needed new shoes and insoles, and send him on his way. They always offered him pain meds, and after his initial experience with that he has steadfastly declined; preferring to pop ibuprofen to get him through each day.

We've had many conversations about that issue, and I've always been flexible with his schedule to allow him to get it looked at every quarter. This year the VA received a new crop of doctors and one of them is a podiatrist that it was his great fortune to see last week. This doctor examined him thoroughly, reviewed his x-rays, and ordered an MRI of the ankle because things weren't adding up. . . in his experienced opinion. The MRI was yesterday.

Today he came in and showed me an image from that MRI that he has on his smart phone. I am no doctor, but it readily apparent that this man's ankle is clearly still broken, with a huge splinter the width of the bone hanging. It is fractured and so sharp it has cut some of the tendons.

12 YEARS this man has been walking around with this injury, and no one within the VA considered his pain a priority or to be severe enough to look a little deeper with an MRI. I am astounded he has been able to work, much less walk with all of this going on! He has had constant pain and ankle dislocations the whole time, and they did not care enough to look deeper; preferring to placate him with insoles and shoes and an offer of drugs.

I am so mad over this I could spit hell-fire.

I apologized to him over the treatment he and his family has been subjected to. There is no excuse for this at all. I am so embarrassed by this and enraged I cannot put it into words. His military career was ended over the failure of the medical staff to properly diagnose and treat his injury from the onset, and the whole thing further exacerbated by 12 years of medical failure to exercise due diligence in the diagnosis and treatment of his continuing medical issues.

As fate seem to insist to have things, my wife and his wife have known each other since before he and I ever met. A fact we discovered when I mentioned to him my wife was going to a bowling tournament in Reno a few years back. He said his wife was too. A couple of days later I mentioned my wife was flying out on Thursday, and of course so was his, and eventually we figured out that not only were they going to the same tournament, but they were on the same team and they knew each other for years. . .

He and his wife recently had a child last September, and she is the cutest little angel I have ever seen.

When he went back to the doctor this morning, he said the doctor wanted to discuss a plan for fixing it. He told the doctor to just lop it off when he suggested fusing. But the doctor wants him to consider several other options first. I told him to decide and get it done right now, even if it means a several month long rehab I told him to get it done. (He has short-term / long term insurance coverage for such medical issues, so he will get paid).

When I got home, I contacted his wife and apologized to her as well.

WTF is wrong with this country that we will not take proper care of the men and women that put their lives on the line for this nation each and every day?!!!!  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Take a look at this ...


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/veterans-health-care_us_56c7778de4b0ec6725e28aed (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/veterans-health-care_us_56c7778de4b0ec6725e28aed)

God damned bright, sunny, beautiful spring day with birds everywhere. And the damned power goes out. . . WTF??

Here it is. My bi-annual bitching about:

Daylight saving time SUCKS! CLOCK GAMES SUCK! Pick a time and LEAVE it alone!  :mad: :mad: :mad:

Amen! I hate Daylight Saving Time also!

Quote from: libby on March 13, 2016, 09:48:52 PM
Amen! I hate Daylight Saving Time also!

:food4: :thumbsup:

This morning Apple pushed an OS update to my iPhone. Normally these things will  not update until your phone of device is logged onto a WiFi connection to the internet or a hard wired docing system. I checked to see what it was and for whatever reason the damned thing began updating immediately, the moment I went into settings. . .

I thought, well I guess it's something minor and small and let it run through the update process. BIG MISTAKE!

When the phone restarted and I unlocked it, it wanted to log onto the Apple site to complete the update process. Of course, THIS required a WiFi connection, and since I was at work and this particular phone is my personal one, I could not log onto the corporate WiFi to complete it. And I was effectively locked out of my phone until I could do so. . .  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

After jumping through several hoops, and pleading my case with the Director of IT, I got a tech to log on with my phone using her login for the WiFi, and completed the process.

I was not a happy camper over this and am still a bit perturbed over it. One thing for sure, ANY future updates pushed to my phone will be declined until I am back at the stall. I am considering ditching this phone for something else, however the plan I am currently under is no longer offered by the provider I  have been with for nearly 2 decades, and the new plans are high cost to get into and push leasing of the new device, further adding to the monthly cost.

I am now looking into obtaining a wireless home phone and ditching the damed electronic leash (cell phones) entirely. Huge savings associated with doing so and not just money. Time is increasingly valuable to me as I age, and these damned cell phones place you at the beck and call of everyone you know 24/7/365. . .  :rant:

My update didn't do that.  :confused:

Quote from: Palehorse on March 23, 2016, 05:33:30 PM
This morning Apple pushed an OS update to my iPhone. Normally these things will  not update until your phone of device is logged onto a WiFi connection to the internet or a hard wired docing system. I checked to see what it was and for whatever reason the damned thing began updating immediately, the moment I went into settings. . .

I thought, well I guess it's something minor and small and let it run through the update process. BIG MISTAKE!

When the phone restarted and I unlocked it, it wanted to log onto the Apple site to complete the update process. Of course, THIS required a WiFi connection, and since I was at work and this particular phone is my personal one, I could not log onto the corporate WiFi to complete it. And I was effectively locked out of my phone until I could do so. . .  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

After jumping through several hoops, and pleading my case with the Director of IT, I got a tech to log on with my phone using her login for the WiFi, and completed the process.

I was not a happy camper over this and am still a bit perturbed over it. One thing for sure, ANY future updates pushed to my phone will be declined until I am back at the stall. I am considering ditching this phone for something else, however the plan I am currently under is no longer offered by the provider I  have been with for nearly 2 decades, and the new plans are high cost to get into and push leasing of the new device, further adding to the monthly cost.

I am now looking into obtaining a wireless home phone and ditching the damed electronic leash (cell phones) entirely. Huge savings associated with doing so and not just money. Time is increasingly valuable to me as I age, and these damned cell phones place you at the beck and call of everyone you know 24/7/365. . .  :rant:

moo

I don't answer my phone when I am away from home. If it is important the caller will leave a voicemail.

Quote from: Locutus on March 23, 2016, 06:24:33 PM
My update didn't do that.  :confused:

Mine is an older model so . . .

PH, I know people who love all things Apple and I tried the iPhone but wasn't impressed. I guess I am an Android person

I am Apple to the core.  MacBook, iPhone, everything fully integrated with iCloud.  :yes:

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Quote from: Locutus on March 24, 2016, 03:44:18 PM
I am Apple to the core.  MacBook, iPhone, everything fully integrated with iCloud.  :yes:

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I am too and have been for years. But. . . I'm less than pleased with how much these phones are starting to cost these days; all of them. The original reason I went cellular and cut the cord was over the cost of the landline. At the time the cost was comparable, initially but eventually the landline was more than the cell, so I cut the cord.

Now, it's the other way around and just to get into a new cell phone for my wife and myself will cost us a grand or more between the cost of the phones and activation fees. And then the plans are more than I am paying right now, by a significant amount. Just making things questionable . . .

Oh joy! I get to replace the god damn water heater tomorrow; and we have NO friggin water until I do so!  :mad:

Came home to a puddle of water in the garage. I didn't think much of it since it has been raining so much. I thought it was water off the car. . . WRONG!

I walked into the utility room and splash, splash splash. . . The bottom dropped out of the god damn thing and water was fucking everywhere. . . I just spent 3 hours cleaning that crap up. And oh boy! The damned shut off for the water supply does not fully shut off the water, so I had to shut the water off at the main. So no fucking water. . .

This damned house is 9 years old. We have had a water softener on the supply since day 1. Lot of good that crap did. The mineral buildup is what ruined the heater. I can tell because of all the crap that it puked out when it went. . . deposits. . . I swear . . . I could slap the snot out of someone right now. . .

Oh. . . $900.00 for the new heater. . . And that's with me doing the work. . .

They installed a 40 gallon in this place when we moved in. I'm putting a 50 in to replace it though. 4 BR house with 3 full baths so the capacity is needed.  :mad: :mad: :mad:

Quote from: Palehorse on March 31, 2016, 08:07:18 PM
Oh joy! I get to replace the god damn water heater tomorrow; and we have NO friggin water until I do so!  :mad:

Came home to a puddle of water in the garage. I didn't think much of it since it has been raining so much. I thought it was water off the car. . . WRONG!

I walked into the utility room and splash, splash splash. . . The bottom dropped out of the god damn thing and water was fucking everywhere. . . I just spent 3 hours cleaning that crap up. And oh boy! The damned shut off for the water supply does not fully shut off the water, so I had to shut the water off at the main. So no fucking water. . .

This damned house is 9 years old. We have had a water softener on the supply since day 1. Lot of good that crap did. The mineral buildup is what ruined the heater. I can tell because of all the crap that it puked out when it went. . . deposits. . . I swear . . . I could slap the snot out of someone right now. . .

Oh. . . $900.00 for the new heater. . . And that's with me doing the work. . .

They installed a 40 gallon in this place when we moved in. I'm putting a 50 in to replace it though. 4 BR house with 3 full baths so the capacity is needed.  :mad: :mad: :mad:

Sorry to hear this, PH.  That really sucks.  I hope the installation goes easy for you!

Quote from: Palehorse on March 31, 2016, 08:07:18 PM
Oh joy! I get to replace the god damn water heater tomorrow; and we have NO friggin water until I do so!  :mad:

Came home to a puddle of water in the garage. I didn't think much of it since it has been raining so much. I thought it was water off the car. . . WRONG!

I walked into the utility room and splash, splash splash. . . The bottom dropped out of the god damn thing and water was fucking everywhere. . . I just spent 3 hours cleaning that crap up. And oh boy! The damned shut off for the water supply does not fully shut off the water, so I had to shut the water off at the main. So no fucking water. . .

This damned house is 9 years old. We have had a water softener on the supply since day 1. Lot of good that crap did. The mineral buildup is what ruined the heater. I can tell because of all the crap that it puked out when it went. . . deposits. . . I swear . . . I could slap the snot out of someone right now. . .

Oh. . . $900.00 for the new heater. . . And that's with me doing the work. . .

They installed a 40 gallon in this place when we moved in. I'm putting a 50 in to replace it though. 4 BR house with 3 full baths so the capacity is needed.  :mad: :mad: :mad:

 
  Why in hell would you put in a $900 water heater.   :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: There is no water heater that is worth $900, they will leak too.    :yes: You can put it in by yourself for less than $400  buying the copper or plastic fittings and tools to put it in.  50 gallons is good enough and 5yr warranty is good enough.  If the 5 year model breaks in less than 5 years they will give you another one.   :yes:

Quote from: The Troll on March 31, 2016, 10:22:26 PM
 
  Why in hell would you put in a $900 water heater.   :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: There is no water heater that is worth $900, they will leak too.    :yes: You can put it in by yourself for less than $400  buying the copper or plastic fittings and tools to put it in.  50 gallons is good enough and 5yr warranty is good enough.  If the 5 year model breaks in less than 5 years they will give you another one.   :yes:

Haven't priced water heaters lately have ya Troll?

Sorry PH, have you thought about going tankless on the water heater, I think is what it is called. Friend has one and they always have hot water.

Quote from: The Troll on March 31, 2016, 10:22:26 PM
 
  Why in hell would you put in a $900 water heater.   :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: There is no water heater that is worth $900, they will leak too.    :yes: You can put it in by yourself for less than $400  buying the copper or plastic fittings and tools to put it in.  50 gallons is good enough and 5yr warranty is good enough.  If the 5 year model breaks in less than 5 years they will give you another one.   :yes:

As "me" said, Guess you haven't priced them lately.

I ended up with a 50 gallon model that I found at Loews for just under 600 bucks with my military discount. And this is with me doing the work myself. I already own the tools to do the work; including the Pex. I've been at this for a number of decades now so I'm not paying anybody to do what I can do myself.

That being said, it started out alright, until it came time to haul that old unit out. That SOB weighed a TON, and I had it strapped to a dolly to move it. I thought I was going to bust a nut getting it out into the garage. My dolly is a 4 wheel unit that you can lay down, which is what I did once I got it into the garage. And I found out why it was so heavy.

I had left the drain open all night, but it was 3/4 of water anyway as it would not empty. Until I turned in onto its side and it began to spew. I just rolled it out to the curb and let it drain. Then I set it upright out there. Have to call the trash haulers to come out and get the damned thing. . .

I got it all plumbed in water wise, then let it fill while I ran the gas line. I chose to build a new one rather than re-use the old one. Safer that way. I tested it for leaks then fired that bastard up. I have hot water now.

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on April 01, 2016, 06:36:18 AM
Sorry PH, have you thought about going tankless on the water heater, I think is what it is called. Friend has one and they always have hot water.

I actually investigated this but decided against it. Due to the square footage of my home, and the fact that 2 of the 3 bathrooms are a good distance from the location of the unit, I would have had to have bought and installed boosters for the 2 upstairs baths. All told, with electrical supplies, the main unit and the two boosters, and the additional materials for plumbing everything in, it would have been right at 2k to go tankless.

Now I'm not a tightwad and I would have really liked to have converted, but it would have required a bit more time than I have right now to install the damned thing; and I'm not paying someone a kings ransom to do what I can do myself. And going another day without a shower was not something I wanted to put my wife through.  For my sake and hers.  :icon_twisted:

Quote from: Palehorse on April 01, 2016, 04:16:27 PM
I have hot water now.

:food4: :food4:

Good deal, PH!!!
I am sure your wife and you are grateful to be back in the land of hot water.
My friend who has the tankless one redid his whole bathroom and I guess it was convienent for them.

Quote from: me on March 31, 2016, 11:26:28 PM
Haven't priced water heaters lately have ya Troll?

  No I haven't, the last one I replaced is eight years old and going strong.  It is also a 5 year warranty.  If it go out tomorrow I figure I am ahead as far as it cost.   :yes: :biggrin:

Quote from: The Troll on April 01, 2016, 08:29:48 PM
  No I haven't, the last one I replaced is eight years old and going strong.  It is also a 5 year warranty.  If it go out tomorrow I figure I am ahead as far as it cost.   :yes: :biggrin:

Last time I priced them before this was 9 years ago. Prepare yourself when you have to get another one. Sticker shock is fairly common. . .  :eek:

Quote from: Palehorse on April 01, 2016, 08:44:29 PM
Last time I priced them before this was 9 years ago. Prepare yourself when you have to get another one. Sticker shock is fairly common. . .  :eek:

There are also less replaceable parts now so if it goes you pretty much have to buy a new one instead of being able to replace a burner or control. 8 to 10 yrs ago they still had some of the older ones on the shelves so you could still luck out and get one of them and I would assume they are gone from the shelves now.

Quote from: me on April 01, 2016, 10:23:10 PM
There are also less replaceable parts now so if it goes you pretty much have to buy a new one instead of being able to replace a burner or control. 8 to 10 yrs ago they still had some of the older ones on the shelves so you could still luck out and get one of them and I would assume they are gone from the shelves now.

  Mrs. :me:  In over 50 years in plumbing I have never replaced a burner or controls.  Every water heater I have replaced has been caused by leaks.  The longest lasting heaters I have found are electric water heaters.  I have found that when one of these electric heaters stop working it's because of an element burned out which are easy to replace.

  The oldest electric water heaters that I have replaced was 26 years old.  It was put in the house when it was built.  It had water softener from day one.  It was a 50 gallon and after I drained it, I was able to lift it out of the closet it was in.  Gas water heater will not last anywhere near this long.   :yes:

Quote from: The Troll on April 02, 2016, 11:16:12 AM

  Mrs. :me:  In over 50 years in plumbing I have never replaced a burner or controls.  Every water heater I have replaced has been caused by leaks.  The longest lasting heaters I have found are electric water heaters.  I have found that when one of these electric heaters stop working it's because of an element burned out which are easy to replace.

  The oldest electric water heaters that I have replaced was 26 years old.  It was put in the house when it was built.  It had water softener from day one.  It was a 50 gallon and after I drained it, I was able to lift it out of the closet it was in.  Gas water heater will not last anywhere near this long.   :yes:

I have had to replace controls in gas water heaters as well as elements in elec water heaters. The only water I've dealt with that leaked was an elec one. Personally I prefer gas water heaters because they recover faster and are more energy efficient. Like everything else it depends on how they're taken care of and with water heaters you can't run the gas ones as high as they'll go and expect them to last very long but if they're kept at a reasonable temp and drained at least every couple of years, one is better, or use a water softener they'll last a good long time.

My siblings suck. My family sucks. 😡

Quote from: Palehorse on April 05, 2016, 02:18:07 PM
My siblings suck. My family sucks. 😡

I'm sorry  :(  :confused: (hug)

Quote from: libby on April 05, 2016, 05:18:04 PM
I'm sorry  :(  :confused: (hug)

Thanks. . . I am sorry too. . .  :mad:

Quote from: Palehorse on April 05, 2016, 02:18:07 PM
My siblings suck. My family sucks. 😡

I am sorry! I have one in my own family that way. She had time to drag her ass and her trashy grand-daughter all over town but didn't and hasn't been to see our father in the nursing home.

Quote from: Palehorse on April 05, 2016, 02:18:07 PM
My siblings suck. My family sucks. 😡

Sorry you have to go through crap, too.  You're not alone, PH! I'm back in good graces again with my parents; not sure how long it will last though.  Hope things smooth out for you, if it is possible. :-\

Quote from: Palehorse on April 05, 2016, 02:18:07 PM
My siblings suck. My family sucks. 😡

{{{{{{HUGS}}}}} Hope things smooth out for you.

Sorry, PH.

Thanks all, I do appreciate the kind words and thoughts. More than you know. . . They still suck though.

It never ceases to astound me how stupid people can be. Even my own family. . .

I am now thinking my little brother got it right. Just don't talk to them and ignore them. . . You're far better off that way.  :yes:  :rant:

Nothing puts a cramp on a pubescent young mans dreams like whipping out pictures of his baby junk in front of a girl he's crushing on!

Quote from: Palehorse on April 12, 2016, 08:17:45 PM
Nothing puts a cramp on a pubescent young mans dreams like whipping out pictures of his baby junk in front of a girl he's crushing on!

:biggrin:

Quote from: Palehorse on April 12, 2016, 08:17:45 PM
Nothing puts a cramp on a pubescent young mans dreams like whipping out pictures of his baby junk in front of a girl he's crushing on!

Hahahaha

Quote from: AbbyTC on April 12, 2016, 09:46:58 PM
:biggrin:

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on April 13, 2016, 07:59:51 AM
Hahahaha

Yeppers. You gals go straight for the jugular when it comes to your sons and other women.  :eek:

Quote from: Palehorse on April 19, 2016, 08:00:32 PM
Yeppers. You gals go straight for the jugular when it comes to your sons and other women.  :eek:

No sons here!  Just one daughter.  I'll have to ask my sister-in-law if she's done that to any of her three boys. 

Quote from: Palehorse on April 19, 2016, 08:00:32 PM
Yeppers. You gals go straight for the jugular when it comes to your sons and other women.  :eek:

Yep, I will when that time comes!

Spent some time at the airport today. I have never in my life seen so many people look intently at the bathroom symbols before walking into the restrooms. Both sexes. One lady was standing there doing the piss-dance while she waited for her brain to tell her it was the ladies room.  :roll eyes:

Go in. If someone looks like they don't belong or acts inappropriately then punch them in the chops and wait for the authorities!  :mad:

Quote from: Palehorse on April 28, 2016, 07:57:44 PM
Spent some time at the airport today. I have never in my life seen so many people look intently at the bathroom symbols before walking into the restrooms. Both sexes. One lady was standing there doing the piss-dance while she waited for her brain to tell her it was the ladies room.  :roll eyes:

Go in. If someone looks like they don't belong or acts inappropriately then punch them in the chops and wait for the authorities!  :mad:

If one has to pee bad enough, they aren't going to really care who is next to them.

I think it would be MORE disturbing to see a man, dressed like a woman, whip out his manhood, in front of my kid, than a man dressed like a woman, to go inside a stall in the womens bathroom, where nobody sees, and nobody hurt.  I also, think IF we make this an issue, it WILL create a haven for perverts....

Like PH says, the first time someone actually crosses the line and perverts themselves in front of my daughters or wife, I will merely punch them in the chops and call the authorities. 

Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 29, 2016, 07:49:51 AM
I think it would be MORE disturbing to see a man, dressed like a woman, whip out his manhood, in front of my kid, than a man dressed like a woman, to go inside a stall in the womens bathroom, where nobody sees, and nobody hurt.  I also, think IF we make this an issue, it WILL create a haven for perverts....

Like PH says, the first time someone actually crosses the line and perverts themselves in front of my daughters or wife, I will merely punch them in the chops and call the authorities.

I agree and as long as they go inside a stall, I have no problems with them but if they don't than it will become an issue

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on April 29, 2016, 09:17:01 AM
I agree and as long as they go inside a stall, I have no problems with them but if they don't than it will become an issue

Don't all women's restrooms have stalls?  Where else could they go?  In the sink?   :spooked:   NOW WE GOT PROBLEMS  :rant:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 29, 2016, 09:34:34 AM
Don't all women's restrooms have stalls?  Where else could they go?  In the sink?   :spooked:   NOW WE GOT PROBLEMS  :rant:

Yes, but I am talking about if a man comes into the women's restroom.

One thing that bothers me is if the transgender stands up you know how most men are and, well, that's just not a cool thing if they fail to lift the seat.

This has been going on for awhile and it has never really been an issue until Target made their announcement. All women's restrooms have stalls with doors and the few men's restrooms I've been in have a least one stall with a door. Use the one you're comfortable with.  Geese, people, get over it. I know this whole thing would have given my parents fits but they would be almost 100 now, different world. But like me said, be polite, raise the seat and then put it down when you're done.😁 One more thing, enough with the outside names on the doors, stick with girls and boys or men and women.

I don't know about anyone else, but I go into the bathroom with my kids, grandkids included. Even when they are 10-12 years old, if we're in a public venue and one of them has to go, I or my wife go with them. Period.

I've NEVER trusted public restrooms. Ever. Never will.

So I'm really not getting this whole bruhaha over the transgender thingy.

Women hover over the damned toilet in public restrooms, so you're just as apt to piss on the seat as we are in them. Hell, I've got be at DEFCON1 in order to take a crap anthem anywhere. For that very reason.

Stop acting like the people responsible for cleaning public restrooms go in there and do a "cleanroom" class disinfecting of them. They don't. Would you at minimum wage?

People just aren't happy anymore unless they can bitch and moan about something. . .  :mad:

We have always gone with our kids and grandchildren,too. When they get about six or seven they start to balk about going into the opposite restrooms. When my son was about ten we were at an amusement park and my husband wasn't with us. I remember asking one of the park employees if there was more than one way in or out of the restroom. He said only one way so I stood by the door. Not sure what I would have done if there had been more than one door.

Quote from: Palehorse on April 30, 2016, 08:06:41 PM
I don't know about anyone else, but I go into the bathroom with my kids, grandkids included. Even when they are 10-12 years old, if we're in a public venue and one of them has to go, I or my wife go with them. Period.

I've NEVER trusted public restrooms. Ever. Never will.

So I'm really not getting this whole bruhaha over the transgender thingy.

Women hover over the damned toilet in public restrooms, so you're just as apt to piss on the seat as we are in them. Hell, I've got be at DEFCON1 in order to take a crap anthem anywhere. For that very reason.

Stop acting like the people responsible for cleaning public restrooms go in there and do a "cleanroom" class disinfecting of them. They don't. Would you at minimum wage?

People just aren't happy anymore unless they can bitch and moan about something. . .  :mad:

BOOM!  Again, you said it all!! I agree 100% with every word. I am the exact same way with my kids too....

Quote from: Palehorse on April 30, 2016, 08:06:41 PM
I don't know about anyone else, but I go into the bathroom with my kids, grandkids included. Even when they are 10-12 years old, if we're in a public venue and one of them has to go, I or my wife go with them. Period.

I've NEVER trusted public restrooms. Ever. Never will.

So I'm really not getting this whole bruhaha over the transgender thingy.

Women hover over the damned toilet in public restrooms, so you're just as apt to piss on the seat as we are in them. Hell, I've got be at DEFCON1 in order to take a crap anthem anywhere. For that very reason.

Stop acting like the people responsible for cleaning public restrooms go in there and do a "cleanroom" class disinfecting of them. They don't. Would you at minimum wage?

People just aren't happy anymore unless they can bitch and moan about something. . .  :mad:

Exactly. I don't let our daughter go to the public restroom at all by herself. I didn't let our son until recently and he is 14. Call it whatever you want but I am protective of our children. If you are any kind of parent, you will be.

Quote from: Anne on April 30, 2016, 08:51:59 PM
We have always gone with our kids and grandchildren,too. When they get about six or seven they start to balk about going into the opposite restrooms. When my son was about ten we were at an amusement park and my husband wasn't with us. I remember asking one of the park employees if there was more than one way in or out of the restroom. He said only one way so I stood by the door. Not sure what I would have done if there had been more than one door.

I did that at a convienent store bathroom and the men who were in there understood perfectly. One of them told.me that had anyine touched my son, he would have beat the snot out of that person.  That was nice of the guy but I didn't trust him either. Lol

Quote from: Palehorse on April 30, 2016, 08:06:41 PM
I don't know about anyone else, but I go into the bathroom with my kids, grandkids included. Even when they are 10-12 years old, if we're in a public venue and one of them has to go, I or my wife go with them. Period.

I've NEVER trusted public restrooms. Ever. Never will.

So I'm really not getting this whole bruhaha over the transgender thingy.

Women hover over the damned toilet in public restrooms, so you're just as apt to piss on the seat as we are in them. Hell, I've got be at DEFCON1 in order to take a crap anthem anywhere. For that very reason.

Stop acting like the people responsible for cleaning public restrooms go in there and do a "cleanroom" class disinfecting of them. They don't. Would you at minimum wage?

People just aren't happy anymore unless they can bitch and moan about something. . .  :mad:

Yes, I would do that at minimum wage because there is no training or schooling involved and I believe if you're hired to do a job you do it well not half assed because that's what you're paid to do. If you want higher pay you work up to it, which I would also do. That is an entry level job not a career and there is no shame in having a job like that the shame comes in NOT taking a job like that because you think you're too good. No, it's not a pleasant job but someone has to do it.

Quote from: me on May 02, 2016, 01:16:44 PM
Yes, I would do that at minimum wage because there is no training or schooling involved and I believe if you're hired to do a job you do it well not half assed because that's what you're paid to do. If you want higher pay you work up to it, which I would also do. That is an entry level job not a career and there is no shame in having a job like that the shame comes in NOT taking a job like that because you think you're too good. No, it's not a pleasant job but someone has to do it.

  I had to some really bad jobs in the rest rooms where all of the toilets :toilet: were stopped up and running over.  :puke:  I did the job because I was paid well to do it.   :yes:  $21 per hour and this was over 20 years ago.   :biggrin:  But at $7.25 per hour they could have shoved the job up their ass.  :trustme:   :wait:

Quote from: Palehorse on April 30, 2016, 08:06:41 PM
Stop acting like the people responsible for cleaning public restrooms go in there and do a "cleanroom" class disinfecting of them. They don't. Would you at minimum wage?

Just as an aside here, one of the problems of cleaning modern day restrooms is that they're not designed to be as cleanable as they used to be - so as with everything else in good ole' capitalist Amerika, it boils down to money.

I worked as a janitor more than once in my life, and Sears - if anyone remembers the Sears building uptown Anderson which was one Sears I worked at - had some of the best designed restrooms for cleaning. 

They were done up in all tile, stainless steel, and some porcelain, with drains in the floor and hose spigots.  All I had to do to give the restroom a proper cleaning was spray the entire room down with a cleaner/disinfectant, scrub anything that required scrubbing, and then hose the entire room down, squeegeeing the excess water down the drains.

The restrooms came away sparkling clean.

Try and find a restroom constructed like that anymore.  It's cheaper to use drywall, paint, and vinyl, but it's nowhere near as cleanable.

Quote from: Y on May 09, 2016, 03:52:02 PM
Just as an aside here, one of the problems of cleaning modern day restrooms is that they're not designed to be as cleanable as they used to be - so as with everything else in good ole' capitalist Amerika, it boils down to money.

I worked as a janitor more than once in my life, and Sears - if anyone remembers the Sears building uptown Anderson which was one Sears I worked at - had some of the best designed restrooms for cleaning. 

They were done up in all tile, stainless steel, and some porcelain, with drains in the floor and hose spigots.  All I had to do to give the restroom a proper cleaning was spray the entire room down with a cleaner/disinfectant, scrub anything that required scrubbing, and then hose the entire room down, squeegeeing the excess water down the drains.

The restrooms came away sparkling clean.

Try and find a restroom constructed like that anymore.  It's cheaper to use drywall, paint, and vinyl, but it's nowhere near as cleanable.

Kroger, King Gyro's, B K, McDonald's. shall I go on? Oh and some even have self flushing toilets now too.

Quote from: me on May 09, 2016, 05:35:41 PM
Kroger, King Gyro's, B K, McDonald's. shall I go on? Oh and some even have self flushing toilets now too.

  :me:  You sure have to be totally crack and out of your mind.  :haha:  But your the one that is also supporting liar and thief Donald Trump, Honeypot.  :kiss:

Quote from: The Troll on June 22, 2016, 04:01:58 PM
liar and thief Donald Trump, Honeypot.  :kiss:

How can you say that with a straight face.........

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 22, 2016, 04:34:20 PM
How can you say that with a straight face.........

  I can't say it with a straight face.   :smile: :yes:  All of you Republicans are fucking Clowns.   :lol: :juggle2: :suck: :thubb: :trustme: :haha: :haha: :haha:

Quote from: The Troll on June 26, 2016, 04:39:46 PM

  I can't say it with a straight face.   :smile: :yes:  All of you Republicans are fucking Clowns.   :lol: :juggle2: :suck: :thubb: :trustme: :haha: :haha: :haha:

Better get used to it..... :lol: :juggle2: :suck: :thubb: :trustme: :haha: :haha: :haha:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 27, 2016, 08:21:52 AM
Better get used to it..... :lol: :juggle2: :suck: :thubb: :trustme: :haha: :haha: :haha:

Is this another one of your ominous election predictions that are always wrong?   :razz:

Quote from: Locutus on June 27, 2016, 12:43:53 PM
Is this another one of your ominous election predictions that are always wrong?   :razz:

             :trustme:  You got that one right.  :thumbsup:      :yes:

Quote from: The Troll on June 27, 2016, 04:43:42 PM


             :trustme:  You got that one right.  :thumbsup:      :yes:

I thought so!  He's been good for a few of those over the last few election cycles.  ;D

 :biggrin:

Quote from: Locutus on June 27, 2016, 12:43:53 PM
Is this another one of your ominous election predictions that are always wrong?   :razz:

We will see....Hey, I only missed the last one.  Romney caved, and we lost. If he had half a backbone, I would have been right.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 28, 2016, 08:34:47 AM
We will see....Hey, I only missed the last one.  Romney caved, and we lost. If he had half a backbone, I would have been right.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't I also recall you making one of your now famous prognostications regarding McCain/Palin?  ;D

Quote from: Locutus on June 28, 2016, 09:59:00 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't I also recall you making one of your now famous prognostications regarding McCain/Palin?  ;D

I didn't have that warm and fuzzy feeling with that one.. :no: ...deep inside, I knew we was toast.  I was being outrageously optimistic. ;D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 28, 2016, 04:32:31 PM
. . .  I was being outrageously optimistic. ;D

And this is unusual?  :wink:

Quote from: Palehorse on June 28, 2016, 04:47:13 PM
And this is unusual?  :wink:

:no:

;D

Quote from: Palehorse on June 28, 2016, 04:47:13 PM
And this is unusual?  :wink:

Never said it was unusual....it is actually one of my weak points....but I can't function any other way.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 28, 2016, 08:34:47 AM
We will see....Hey, I only missed the last one.  Romney caved, and we lost. If he had half a backbone, I would have been right.

  Let me see?  :think:  Close only counts in hand grenades and horse shoes.   :grin2:  :rotfl:  :rotfl:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 28, 2016, 08:34:47 AM
We will see....Hey, I only missed the last one.  Romney caved, and we lost. If he had half a backbone, I would have been right.

  Bird Boy :chick:  You only think you won two elections.  :haha:  You wouldn't say that if it wasn't for the Supreme Court stepping in and giving the election to George W. and him winning with 911 then that was his fault for letting it happening.   :yes:  Your a joke Bird Boy.  :chick: Now for a little drum roll. :drummer:

Mow mow mow mow mow mow mow mow  :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow:

In the midnight hour, she cried :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow::mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow::mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow::mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow::mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow::mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow::mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow::mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow::mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow::mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow::mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow::mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow::mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow::mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow::mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow::mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow:

You must be desperate for something to say.  :razz: :big grin:

Quote from: Locutus on July 07, 2016, 03:31:46 PM
You must be desperate for something to say.  :razz: :big grin:

Nope. Just tired of  :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow::mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow::mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow::mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow: :mow:

Nothing wrong with Billy Idol!  ;D

Quote from: Locutus on July 07, 2016, 08:18:40 PM
Nothing wrong with Billy Idol!  ;D

I bet he doesn't have to  :mow: :mow: :mow: !

Nope!  ;D

You two really need to find something to keep you occupied.  :razz:

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Why does every single country song on today's radio have to mention whiskey at least once, and drinking at least twice? 🙄

Quote from: Palehorse on July 09, 2016, 06:20:15 PM
Why does every single country song on today's radio have to mention whiskey at least once, and drinking at least twice? 🙄

Because :beers: :beers: :beers: :beers:

;D

"Whatayah say now Jackass? That's known as trouble with the curve." - Clint Eastwood in "Trouble With The Curve".

My favorite line in that movie. Karma comes home, and brings dessert!  :biggrin:

Speaking of curves, bad drivers really suck!

Bitching about them today!   :mad:

Quote from: Locutus on July 26, 2016, 04:17:00 PM
Speaking of curves, bad drivers really suck!

Bitching about them today!   :mad:

I didn't encounter any today since I didn't go out but yesterday was a different story.

I encounter them every damn day!  :mad:

Quote from: Locutus on July 26, 2016, 09:11:18 PM
I encounter them every damn day!  :mad:

Same here...

Quote from: Locutus on July 26, 2016, 04:17:00 PM
Speaking of curves, bad drivers really suck!

Bitching about them today!   :mad:

Locutus, one day I was going on some errands and saw a lady putting on makeup, smoking a cigarette, drinking coffee, on her cell phone and reading paper all while she was driving. She would switch hands to take turns doing these things. She was all over the road.

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on July 27, 2016, 09:00:44 AM
Locutus, one day I was going on some errands and saw a lady putting on makeup, smoking a cigarette, drinking coffee, on her cell phone and reading paper all while she was driving. She would switch hands to take turns doing these things. She was all over the road.

:mad: :mad: :mad:

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on July 27, 2016, 09:00:44 AM
Locutus, one day I was going on some errands and saw a lady putting on makeup, smoking a cigarette, drinking coffee, on her cell phone and reading paper all while she was driving. She would switch hands to take turns doing these things. She was all over the road.

I used to work with a lady who would put her eye makeup on while driving to the office if she was running late. The only reason we found out she did that was because she hit a bump and got mascara on her cheek one morning and had to wait 'til she got to work to get it off. She's darn lucky she didn't stab herself in the eye.

One morning I was on the Stevenson Expressway in Illinois on my way to the salt mine, (I-55 to the non-idigioness homo sapiens), and was stuck in bumper to bumper traffic that was moving short distances and stopping; repeating endlessly. . . In other words, normal traffic in Chicago.

I noticed a nice Jaguar coming up through the fray in the center lane on my left, and as luck would have it my lane came to a screeching halt. I looked in my side mirror to see the driver of that Jag using an electric razor, visor down in order to use the vanity mirror to view his progress as he rubbed the device across his face back and forth while making shaving faces. I giggled a bit then busted out laughing as he failed to notice his own lane had also come to a screeching halt and rammed that nice new Jag up the 6 of a hoopty that was just ahead of him.

Fucking idiots. Cell phones just provide more temptation to those that are already distracted without them.  :rolleyes: :mad:

Quote from: Palehorse on July 27, 2016, 07:55:19 PM
One morning I was on the Stevenson Expressway in Illinois on my way to the salt mine, (I-55 to the non-idigioness homo sapiens), and was stuck in bumper to bumper traffic that was moving short distances and stopping; repeating endlessly. . . In other words, normal traffic in Chicago.

I noticed a nice Jaguar coming up through the fray in the center lane on my left, and as luck would have it my lane came to a screeching halt. I looked in my side mirror to see the driver of that Jag using an electric razor, visor down in order to use the vanity mirror to view his progress as he rubbed the device across his face back and forth while making shaving faces. I giggled a bit then busted out laughing as he failed to notice his own lane had also come to a screeching halt and rammed that nice new Jag up the 6 of a hoopty that was just ahead of him.

Fucking idiots. Cell phones just provide more temptation to those that are already distracted without them.  :rolleyes: :mad:

I would have paid to have seen that.  ;D

Quote from: Locutus on July 28, 2016, 10:06:54 AM
I would have paid to have seen that.  ;D

I wish the cell phones of today existed back then. I'd have had up close and personal footage to prove it!  :yes: :biggrin:

Quote from: Palehorse on July 28, 2016, 07:24:47 PM
I wish the cell phones of today existed back then. I'd have had up close and personal footage to prove it!  :yes: :biggrin:

:spooked:  :biggrin:

Quote from: Locutus on July 28, 2016, 07:39:09 PM
:spooked:  :biggrin:

Hey I was stopped in bumper to bumper traffic. . . And eventually so was he!  :biggrin:

Quote from: Palehorse on July 28, 2016, 08:23:07 PM
Hey I was stopped in bumper to bumper traffic. . . And eventually so was he!  :biggrin:

Sounds like your stop was a bit softer than his for sure.  :yes: :biggrin:

Well. . . he did get some custom body and fender work!  :tiphat:

Quote from: Palehorse on July 29, 2016, 07:09:54 PM
Well. . . he did get some custom body and fender work!  :tiphat:

:biggrin:

 :flurries: :snowbl: :flurries: :snowbl: :flurries: :thinksnow: :LIS: :snowball: :cold: :snowman: :snow:

:devil29:

Quote from: Palehorse on July 30, 2016, 02:55:59 PM
:flurries: :snowbl: :flurries: :snowbl: :flurries: :thinksnow: :LIS: :snowball: :cold: :snowman: :snow:

Now cut that out.......  :poke: :chair:

Quote from: Locutus on July 30, 2016, 03:00:39 PM
:devil29:

We'll have none of that either.  :thubb:

Quote from: me on July 30, 2016, 04:37:48 PM
We'll have none of that either.  :thubb:

Step outside. Too late. . .

Quote from: Palehorse on July 30, 2016, 04:44:12 PM
Step outside. Too late. . .

Rather have this than what you're posting any day...  :yes:

Quote from: me on July 30, 2016, 05:10:37 PM
Rather have this than what you're posting any day...  :yes:

I am the exact opposite.

Quote from: Palehorse on July 30, 2016, 06:03:08 PM
I am the exact opposite.

Well you won't have too much longer to wait since Monday is August 1st. 

Quote from: Palehorse on July 30, 2016, 02:55:59 PM
:flurries: :snowbl: :flurries: :snowbl: :flurries: :thinksnow: :LIS: :snowball: :cold: :snowman: :snow:

Nooooooo!

Quote from: AbbyTC on July 30, 2016, 07:04:01 PM
Nooooooo!

I second that!!!!!

I hate dressing up like an eskimo.  Fall I can deal with; winter, not so much. 

:flurries: :snowbl: :flurries: :snowbl: :flurries: :thinksnow: :LIS: :snowball: :cold: :snowman: :snow:

:icon_twisted:

Stop it Palehorse!  :chair:

Quote from: AbbyTC on July 30, 2016, 08:01:11 PM
Stop it Palehorse!  :chair:

I'm with her....STOP IT

:flurries: :snowbl: :flurries: :snowbl: :flurries: :thinksnow: :LIS: :snowball: :cold: :snowman: :snow:  *




*- You do realize that by emitting opposition to this you are creating ice instead of snow storms. And we ALL hate ice storms do we not?  :icon_twisted:

Quote from: Palehorse on July 31, 2016, 09:31:27 AM





*- You do realize that by emitting opposition to this you are creating ice instead of snow storms. And we ALL hate ice storms do we not?  :icon_twisted:

All I know right now is I ain't ready for no snow........  :rant:  I'll worry about the other when it gets closer to time though.  ;)

I don't like snowdrifts up to my waist, but otherwise there is nothing nice I can say about the summer heat here, especially in July and August, which are usually pure misery. My front and back yards, which I love to tend to in other seasons, look like mini- jungles right now, because, in addition to the heat, there are the mosquitoes!

When we first moved here -- long time ago -- we lived in a trailer with no air conditioning, so on weekends would pile in the VW (also no air ) and drive west to the mountains, then back after dark, to escape the heat.

Summer is not my favorite time of year, I enjoy fall the most. But it was great at the park this morning, a company got rid of all the mosquitoes, there was a nice breeze, shade and it wasn't hot yet.

Today wasn't that bad here really. Went to a benefit for a musican friend of ours and was outside all day. The slight breeze and being able to sit in a shady spot made it bareble.

Getting into the heart of the hurricane season.  :yes:

Quote from: Locutus on August 01, 2016, 01:53:01 PM
Getting into the heart of the hurricane season.  :yes:

Oh goody, I know you and a lot of other people are thrilled about that.

Quote from: me on August 01, 2016, 01:59:26 PM
Oh goody, I know you and a lot of other people are thrilled about that.

  Well, at least he won't be getting any snow.    :cold: :wink: :biggrin:

Quote from: me on August 01, 2016, 01:59:26 PM
Oh goody, I know you and a lot of other people are thrilled about that.

Yeah, it's the only time of the year that really sucks.  You have to keep your eye on things. 

Quote from: The Troll on August 02, 2016, 08:44:27 PM

  Well, at least he won't be getting any snow.    :cold: :wink: :biggrin:

That's for sure Troll.  :biggrin:

I much prefer the sand and surf. 

:island: :surf: :uns: :flash:

Quote from: Locutus on August 02, 2016, 09:02:13 PM
That's for sure Troll.  :biggrin:

I much prefer the sand and surf. 

:island: :surf: :uns: :flash:

Even if its extremely windy and raining like crazy, as in 100mph winds?

Except then. :wink:

Quote from: Locutus on August 02, 2016, 09:22:50 PM
Except then. :wink:

Not me, I'm afraid of thunder storms. 

I have a healthy respect for lightning but I'm not terrified by it.

Quote from: Locutus on August 02, 2016, 10:20:45 PM
I have a healthy respect for lightning but I'm not terrified by it.

I have flashbacks of a lightening bolt striking the lightening rod on my grandma's house when I was 5, followed by a big fire ball that rolled across the yard and the accompaning sulfer smell.

I've been close enough to smell it too.  It isn't fun. 

When I was around 10 a tree in our front yard got struck by lightning.  Split the tree down the middle.  I don't want to experience that again.

Quote from: Locutus on August 02, 2016, 11:14:12 PM
I've been close enough to smell it too.  It isn't fun.

As many years ago as I experienced that you'd think I'd forget the smell at least but I remember it all. I was standing on the couch looking out the window and that fireball came off the roof about 20ft from me. It probably wasn't as big as I remember it since I was so small but it was still a fireball.  :spooked:

Quote from: AbbyTC on August 02, 2016, 11:22:57 PM
When I was around 10 a tree in our front yard got struck by lightning.  Split the tree down the middle.  I don't want to experience that again.

Bet that made a heck of a noise.

Quote from: me on August 02, 2016, 11:32:42 PM
Bet that made a heck of a noise.

It did.  We were in the living room playing and reading and we all jumped when the tree was hit.  Took me many years to not be terrified of thunderstorms. 

Quote from: AbbyTC on August 02, 2016, 11:47:47 PM
It did.  We were in the living room playing and reading and we all jumped when the tree was hit.  Took me many years to not be terrified of thunderstorms.

I'm not too bad unless its real windy and the clouds look funny.

Weather wimps yee be!  :pirate:

You can't be a weather wimp and live in Florida.  Too much lightning and the occasional hurricane.  :yes:

Quote from: Locutus on August 03, 2016, 07:39:38 PM
You can't be a weather wimp and live in Florida.  Too much lightning and the occasional hurricane.  :yes:

And yet somehow ye manage. . .  :pirate:

In just what altered state of reality does the following make sense?

Two employees, male and female on an off shift, walk outside of the facility every day for lunch. The company they work for has just completed a security review and among the very first action items completed was a complete revamping of the inside and outside security cameras. Including an expanded ability to store footage fro all cameras locally on a dedicated and secure server. (No, there are no potty cams).

Their supervisor mentions to a certain mid-level manager that she smells weed on them every day when they come back.

The company makes the fact that all of those cameras are now functional a very public fact by posting signs everywhere.

So then the happy couple decides it is better to just go ahead and smoke weed inside the plant, in the head and out of view of the cameras.

The supervisor goes into the head last night right after break, and reports to the Plant Manager today that when she went in it was as if it were a hookah den, with dense weed smoke everywhere. And they exited the bathroom as she was going in.

The Plant Manager calls the woman in to his office this afternoon when she arrived. He closes the door and then informs her, with HR present, that as a full time employee she was subject to drug testing anytime management had reasonable suspicion that she may be using or under the influence of illegal drugs, and that having said reasonable suspicion she was going to be escorted to a facility to have said drug test administered.

She manned up, admitted to the drug use along with the male, and was separated from her employment with a thanks for admitting her poor decision. She left without incident.

The Plant Manager then called the male, a contingency worker, into his office and informed him of the same facts. He says yeah, I'll take the drug test. I know I will pass it. Then he proceeds to ask what happens when he passes it? "Do I get a full time job offer then, cause you know I am the best at (his position)."

What the hell!  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:  (He failed).  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Guess he'll be hittin' the unemployment line tomorrow with his story of how he was singled out and mistreated.

Quote from: me on August 03, 2016, 09:27:44 PM
Guess he'll be hittin' the unemployment line tomorrow with his story of how he was singled out and mistreated.

Or maybe just spend some time with a toke outside of the office.  ;D

Quote from: Locutus on August 03, 2016, 09:39:18 PM
Or maybe just spend some time with a toke outside of the office.  ;D

:biggrin:

^^

Desperate.  :razz:

Quote from: Locutus on August 02, 2016, 10:20:45 PM
I have a healthy respect for lightning but I'm not terrified by it.

  About two weeks ago lightning hit the neighbors tree which is about 20 feet from our house.  The tree had a slice of bark knock out of it from the top to the roots and left a hole about 2 feet deep in the ground.  I was in the living room about 4o feet from the tree and I raised straight out of my chair.  :eek: :eek: :eek:  The lightning bolt took out our telephone which had to be replaced.  It also took out our Direct TV wires in the attic, all of the receivers, my DVR and blew out two circuit  breakers.  I have never been that close to a lightning bolt.   :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :spooked: :spooked:

Quote from: The Troll on August 03, 2016, 11:10:38 PM
  About two weeks ago lightning hit the neighbors tree which is about 20 feet from our house.  The tree had a slice of bark knock out of it from the top to the roots and left a hole about 2 feet deep in the ground.  I was in the living room about 4o feet from the tree and I raised straight out of my chair.  :eek: :eek: :eek:  The lightning bolt took out our telephone which had to be replaced.  It also took out our Direct TV wires in the attic, all of the receivers, my DVR and blew out two circuit  breakers.  I have never been that close to a lightning bolt.   :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :spooked: :spooked:

It definitely jars the ground and makes ya jump. Did you smell the sulfer or is your house to air tight?

Quote from: The Troll on August 03, 2016, 11:10:38 PM
  About two weeks ago lightning hit the neighbors tree which is about 20 feet from our house.  The tree had a slice of bark knock out of it from the top to the roots and left a hole about 2 feet deep in the ground.  I was in the living room about 4o feet from the tree and I raised straight out of my chair.  :eek: :eek: :eek:  The lightning bolt took out our telephone which had to be replaced.  It also took out our Direct TV wires in the attic, all of the receivers, my DVR and blew out two circuit  breakers.  I have never been that close to a lightning bolt.   :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :spooked: :spooked:

Well, I have. Years ago, not long after moving to Northern VA from WV, I stopped at the grocery store, and on the way home it started raining with some lightening and thunder. I got out of my car, went to the passenger side, had my hand on the door handle when I felt tingling (for lack of a better term) for the full length of my arm. I don't know how long I stood there, probably dazed, didn't tell my son or husband.

I'm not afraid of thunderstorms, except for sometimes worrying that a tree might be hit and fall on my house. Otherwise, I enjoy them.

Fucking does me absolutely no good to leave work on time. I still get home at 7:00pm. . .  :mad:

Know the feeling. 

Another day, another idiot hits the k-rail wall and snarls traffic. . .  :mad:  Asshats!  :mad:

;D

Today it was car vs semi. . .  :rolleyes: :mad:

I purposely stay far behind aggressive 4 wheelers as they weave around through traffic and cut off semis.  It can be exciting, as it was today on my way home. Fucking idiot cut right in front of a semi to his left, and was greeted by the passenger side front wheel of the truck. I watched in glee as the car was kicked to the shoulder, the entire driver side crumpled and bearing rubber marks, and the semi pulled over in front. Cars behind them were locking up the brake and the rubber smoke was thick and putrid.

The idiot had whizzed by me on the right, went to the right of the semi in the lane to the right of mine, then tried to cut back in front of him in order to get in front of the car in front of me; who was a left lane cruiser at 5 mph under the posted limit. (AND a blue hair in a Buick too. He white knuckled his ass over to the right after we got through the danger).

Best part of it all was I whizzed right on by after dodging some miscellaneous chrome pieces and glass. . . and avoiding the all but certain traffic snarling that resulted from this idiots stupidity.  :big grin:

I saved 30 minutes on my commute just by watching an idiot scare the shit out of a blue hair today!  :icon_twisted:

:eek:  ;D

2 hours to show time for ZZ Top and of course its thundering, lightening, and raining. . .  :mad:

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June is long gone Cubbies. Forget the damned swoon!  :rant:

2 outs bottom of the 8th, game tied at 3 all. Grand Slam HR by the Cubs, followed by a solo home run, followed by a double off the wall. Still 2 outs in the bottom of the 8th but it is now 8 to 3 Cubs!

Think they heard me?  :biggrin:

One would think  that with about 600 channels, ONE of them would be carrying the Cubs game!  :rant: :mad:

Being stuck on the turnpike for 45 minutes in stopped traffic due to 2 accidents within a quarter of a mile of each other.  :mad:

 :rolleyes:  Things have gotten so crazy I've been wondering what it would be like to have been born into a Catholic family. Even with all the Church's faults, it seems that a lot of "normal" people are Catholic -- I have to admit watching Ballykissangel on Maryland Public TV helps.  :wink: It's an escape from reality for me.

Quote from: libby on October 16, 2016, 11:53:36 PM
:rolleyes:  Things have gotten so crazy I've been wondering what it would be like to have been born into a Catholic family. Even with all the Church's faults, it seems that a lot of "normal" people are Catholic -- I have to admit watching Ballykissangel on Maryland Public TV helps.  :wink: It's an escape from reality for me.

My husband is Catholic and I converted to Catholicism but left the Catholic Church. When a priest can marry and have kids than I will consider going back.

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on October 17, 2016, 04:49:27 AM
My husband is Catholic and I converted to Catholicism but left the Catholic Church. When a priest can marry and have kids than I will consider going back.

  I wish more people thought like you.  :thumbsup:  But, then and again, I like to see all religion go away.  Worshiping a guy in the sky, you can't see. :ghost: It just don't make any sense.    :confused:

Quote from: The Troll on October 18, 2016, 03:58:42 PM

  I wish more people thought like you.  :thumbsup:  But, then and again, I like to see all religion go away.  Worshiping a guy in the sky, you can't see. :ghost: It just don't make any sense.    :confused:

Is that the Holy Ghosty you have there?  ;D

:ghost: :ghost: :ghost:

Quote from: The Troll on October 18, 2016, 03:58:42 PM

  I wish more people thought like you.  :thumbsup:  But, then and again, I like to see all religion go away.  Worshiping a guy in the sky, you can't see. :ghost: It just don't make any sense.    :confused:

I believe religion to be a personal and private thing. I don't care what religion a person is as long as they aren't shoving their beliefs down my throat. I don't go around doing that.

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on October 18, 2016, 06:08:36 PM
I believe religion to be a personal and private thing. I don't care what religion a person is as long as they aren't shoving their beliefs down my throat. I don't go around doing that.

Live and let live.  :smile:

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on October 18, 2016, 06:08:36 PM
I believe religion to be a personal and private thing. I don't care what religion a person is as long as they aren't shoving their beliefs down my throat. I don't go around doing that.

Many of my co-workers follow some sort of religion, but none proselytize which I appreciate.  I have had discussions with a few of them, and we are all respectful of each others beliefs/non-beliefs.   

Quote from: AbbyTC on October 18, 2016, 11:30:12 PM
Many of my co-workers follow some sort of religion, but none proselytize which I appreciate.  I have had discussions with a few of them, and we are all respectful of each others beliefs/non-beliefs.   

That is how it should be. I enjoy learning about other religions but don't try to convert me.

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on October 19, 2016, 12:40:11 AM
That is how it should be. I enjoy learning about other religions but don't try to convert me.

  My mother being a devout Christian lady and with her trying to drive her religion down my sisters and I throats with church, church, church and prayer and prayer drove us from religion.  Most people don't enjoy  talking about religion with me.  For most, I know more about the Bible than they do.  Talking to me with my Atheist views makes them think to much.  They don't want to hear the truth about their bible and beliefs.  They just can't believe what they have been told by other people and their book, for years and years, just can't be all true.   :'(   What really gets them, is when I tell them that prayer :pray: doesn't work and it can be proved by pass events.   :yes:

  Each and every day around 21,000 children die under the age of 4 years old.   :'( :yes:  You know that each and every child's mother prayed that their child wouldn't die and even offered their own lives to save the child.   :yes:  What did their God do, not a damn thing, not a god damn thing.  Yet the religious people of the world still thinks that there is a great, good and loving god.  All I have to say to this is.  :bs:  :bs:  :bs:   All of this is phony.  :pray:  :preach:  :pope:  :ghost:   :rant:

Quote from: The Troll on October 19, 2016, 01:12:05 PM
  My mother being a devout Christian lady and with her trying to drive her religion down my sisters and I throats with church, church, church and prayer and prayer drove us from religion.  Most people don't enjoy  talking about religion with me.  For most, I know more about the Bible than they do.  Talking to me with my Atheist views makes them think to much.  They don't want to hear the truth about their bible and beliefs.  They just can't believe what they have been told by other people and their book, for years and years, just can't be all true.   :'(   What really gets them, is when I tell them that prayer :pray: doesn't work and it can be proved by pass events.   :yes:

  Each and every day around 21,000 children die under the age of 4 years old.   :'( :yes:  You know that each and every child's mother prayed that their child wouldn't die and even offered their own lives to save the child.   :yes:  What did their God do, not a damn thing, not a god damn thing.  Yet the religious people of the world still thinks that there is a great, good and loving god.  All I have to say to this is.  :bs:  :bs:  :bs:   All of this is phony.  :pray:  :preach:  :pope:  :ghost:   :rant:

But they do have that back-up plan.  When children die, "It's God plan."  "It is his will."  That's the Catch-22 for prayer for them.

Quote from: parkerdivine on October 19, 2016, 01:21:11 PM
But they do have that back-up plan.  When children die, "It's God plan."  "It is his will."  That's the Catch-22 for prayer for them.

Yup!

They always have the backup plan.  The version I heard was, "God answers prayers in 3 ways.  Yes, no, and maybe."  Problem is, you never know how long you're supposed to wait to find out about the maybe part.  It really is a form of brainwashing. 

Quote from: Locutus on October 19, 2016, 01:25:07 PM
Yup!

They always have the backup plan.  The version I heard was, "God answers prayers in 3 ways.  Yes, no, and maybe."  Problem is, you never know how long you're supposed to wait to find out about the maybe part.  It really is a form of brainwashing.

IT is brainwashing.  And a cheap way to NEVER take responsibility for your actions, imho.  "The devil made me do it."

Quote from: parkerdivine on October 19, 2016, 03:17:52 PM
IT is brainwashing.  And a cheap way to NEVER take responsibility for your actions, imho.  "The devil made me do it."

And don't forget their other cop out. 

"I'm not perfect; just forgiven."

Quote from: Locutus on October 19, 2016, 03:20:42 PM
And don't forget their other cop out. 

"I'm not perfect; just forgiven."

Yeah, that's a good one.   And what about all this "American Exceptionalism"? Covers the whole of their taking children from parents in foreign countries.  How many did they take from Haiiti before they had to return them?

Just about 12 weeks left in his second term and these bitches STILL will not stop posting impeachment memes and sour grapes bullshit about the sitting POTUS.

I hope you fuckers hold these lazy assed members of congress accountable for the fucking lies they have been feeding you and their abject failure to do the fucking job we paid them to do for the last 8 years!  :rant:

Quote from: Palehorse on October 23, 2016, 04:11:20 PM
Just about 12 weeks left in his second term and these bitches STILL will not stop posting impeachment memes and sour grapes bullshit about the sitting POTUS.

I hope you fuckers hold these lazy assed members of congress accountable for the fucking lies they have been feeding you and their abject failure to do the fucking job we paid them to do for the last 8 years!  :rant:

I agree!

Quote from: Palehorse on October 23, 2016, 04:11:20 PM
Just about 12 weeks left in his second term and these bitches STILL will not stop posting impeachment memes and sour grapes bullshit about the sitting POTUS.

I hope you fuckers hold these lazy assed members of congress accountable for the fucking lies they have been feeding you and their abject failure to do the fucking job we paid them to do for the last 8 years!  :rant:

  Yea, like voting 63 times to repeal Obama Care (actually the health care plan which over 21 million people now have health insurance.)  And these bastard have the best health care you can have.   :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :rant:

Just a drive-by bitch!

(https://southpawbeagle.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/sp-scowl.jpg?w=500)

:rotfl:

Here's another one suckin' on a corn dog.

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Quote from: Locutus on October 24, 2016, 06:52:08 PM
Just a drive-by bitch!

(https://southpawbeagle.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/sp-scowl.jpg?w=500)

:rotfl:

Shows who she really is!  Crazy!

Quote from: AbbyTC on October 24, 2016, 07:02:04 PM
Shows who she really is!  Crazy!

I think that would make a good Halloween costume for 'me'.   :rotfl:

Quote from: Locutus on October 24, 2016, 07:30:40 PM
I think that would make a good Halloween costume for 'me'.   :rotfl:

:biggrin:

Come on Cubs. . . :mad: :rant:

They're going to have a hard time with these final two games back at the Indians. 

I'm not holding my breath, but they did 103 games this year, so two more isn't asking for too much.  I have faith in them.  :yes:

We'll soon see.  ⚾️

Quote from: Locutus on October 31, 2016, 02:28:22 PM
We'll soon see.  ⚾️

  You know that Chicago was burn down once.   :yes:  If the Cubs win, do you think they will burn it down again.  :haha: :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa:    Go Cubs.  :flag:

I'm not sure about the burning, but I sure would be worried if I were a goat in that town. :rotfl:

Quote from: The Troll on November 01, 2016, 01:42:21 PM

  You know that Chicago was burn down once.   :yes:  If the Cubs win, do you think they will burn it down again.  :haha: :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :fire: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa: :waaa:    Go Cubs.  :flag:

The White Sox won the series a few years ago, and the Blackhawks have won several Stanley Cups and no one burned the city down. In fact, they held some very well attended parades for each of those championship teams with not much more than a few drunk and disorderly arrests.

I'm sure that when the Cubs win in game seven the sun will rise on a city that knows how to celebrate a championship in style.  :yes:

Quote from: Palehorse on November 01, 2016, 10:27:49 PM
The White Sox won the series a few years ago, and the Blackhawks have won several Stanley Cups and no one burned the city down. In fact, they held some very well attended parades for each of those championship teams with not much more than a few drunk and disorderly arrests.

I'm sure that when the Cubs win in game seven the sun will rise on a city that knows how to celebrate a championship in style.  :yes:

And sure enough this is exactly what happened. 5 million people turned out for the parade and rally and no burning of cars, no rioting, no looting. Just the largest gathering of human beings in this nation's history singing "Go Cubs, Go" and celebrating an achievement 108 years in the making.

And those 5 million people were just those in the city itself and at the event. I'll bet there were gatherings that would double or triple that number across the city and nation.  :yes:

So today I decided it was time for a haircut and went to the barbershop. BIG mistake. All anyone wanted to talk about was the election. I kept my pie-hole shut, especially while the straight razor was on my neck. . .

Finally they asked me, "So what do you think about the election"?

It is what it is, I said.

Well, care to elaborate on that? I mean come on, do you think it is going to be better or worse?

It took all the internal will I had to utter these four words, and the only thing I said beyond that was "thank you" to the person that cut my hair and shaved me.

What were those four words?

This too shall pass. . .

A decade of hate, malice, and vitriol directed toward an office of this nation has now left it addicted to conflict and argument. It is clear that the level of acceptability toward violence has increased exponentially, and now we have a nation full of those that view conflict, argument, and violence as socially acceptable endeavors.

I see horrible things coming and there isn't a damned thing I can do about it except take the required measures to ensure the safety and well being of my family when the inevitable peak arrives.

Quote from: Palehorse on November 11, 2016, 03:08:02 PM
A decade of hate, malice, and vitriol directed toward an office of this nation has now left it addicted to conflict and argument. It is clear that the level of acceptability toward violence has increased exponentially, and now we have a nation full of those that view conflict, argument, and violence as socially acceptable endeavors.

I see horrible things coming and there isn't a damned thing I can do about it except take the required measures to ensure the safety and well being of my family when the inevitable peak arrives.

It would be nice, if President Obama would at least, denounce this violence.  But....crickets from the White House

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 11, 2016, 03:30:04 PM
It would be nice, if President Obama would at least, denounce this violence.  But....crickets from the White House

This was his goal in the first place, the violence, and if marshall law isn't declared I'll be very surprised. As I stated way back when, I hope HH and I aren't the ones saying "I told you so".

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 11, 2016, 03:30:04 PM
It would be nice, if President Obama would at least, denounce this violence.  But....crickets from the White House

What useful purpose would that serve? His detractors would then issue hyper-critical commentary over it and the cycle would continue.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 11, 2016, 03:30:04 PM
It would be nice, if President Obama would at least, denounce this violence.  But....crickets from the White House

  No, no, no!  Let Trump come out a apologize to the people for stealing the election.  Hillary now leads Trump over 400,000 votes in the popular vote and she still couldn't win with all the lies Trump said and the help Trump received from the FBI.

Quote from: Palehorse on November 11, 2016, 03:34:06 PM
What useful purpose would that serve? His detractors would then issue hyper-critical commentary over it and the cycle would continue.

At least he could set a precedent.....because, if more violence continues, the National Guard needs to be sent in.  I think it would have a great purpose...to eliminate collateral damage that may occur.

I'm not sure what you mean by hyper critical commentary?

Quote from: The Troll on November 11, 2016, 03:43:19 PM

  No, no, no!  Let Trump come out a apologize to the people for stealing the election.  Hillary now leads Trump over 400,000 votes in the popular vote and she still couldn't win with all the lies Trump said and the help Trump received from the FBI.

I'm not sure, but Trump won by the laws of the land........and by a LANDSLIDE Troll.  I hate to keep saying this (not really) You Lost; Get Over It!

You guys complained about us being bad losers, but WOW!....We never lowered ourselves to violence and riots....c'mon, Troll, grow up and accept it.

They are pissed because they really wanted to believe that America HATED TRUMP, but they don't.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 11, 2016, 03:44:30 PM
At least he could set a precedent.....because, if more violence continues, the National Guard needs to be sent in.  I think it would have a great purpose...to eliminate collateral damage that may occur.

I'm not sure what you mean by hyper critical commentary?

  It sure don't take long for the authoritarians to take over and use force and guns to get their way.  Just like Douglas MacArthur wanted to put up machine guns and shoot the bonus veterans of war I in Washington DC.

Quote from: The Troll on November 11, 2016, 03:54:11 PM

  It sure don't take long for the authoritarians to take over and use force and guns to get their way.  Just like Douglas MacArthur wanted to put up machine guns and shoot the bonus veterans of war I in Washington DC.

Troll, they are destroying private and public property.....they are harming Police Officers trying to do their job....how to you think this is authoritarian?  It is called Law and Order.  Even you should be able to understand this........but you are so caught up in your ideology and pissed because you lost, that you are not thinking straight....c'mon!

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 11, 2016, 03:47:27 PM
I'm not sure, but Trump won by the laws of the land........and by a LANDSLIDE Troll.  I hate to keep saying this (not really) You Lost; Get Over It!

You guys complained about us being bad losers, but WOW!....We never lowered ourselves to violence and riots....c'mon, Troll, grow up and accept it.

They are pissed because they really wanted to believe that America HATED TRUMP, but they don't.

  Just wait it's far from being over, the circus is just beginning.  Yep, Newt Gingrich and Rudy Giuliani.  What were the words in that song?  Bring in the clowns, bring in the clowns----- they're already here.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 11, 2016, 03:57:35 PM
Troll, they are destroying private and public property.....they are harming Police Officers trying to do their job....how to you think this is authoritarian?  It is called Law and Order.  Even you should be able to understand this........but you are so caught up in your ideology and pissed because you lost, that you are not thinking straight....c'mon!

Authoritarianism often masks itself behind the euphemism of law and order. :wink:

I wouldn't expect you and 'me' to see that.

And how are you going to take it if it happens to be your car or house they come after or if your wife needs to get to the hospital but can't because these idiots are blocking the road and you can't get past them? Are you going to want the police to help you then or are you just going to sit there and let it happen?

Quote from: The Troll on November 11, 2016, 03:54:11 PM

  It sure don't take long for the authoritarians to take over and use force and guns to get their way.  Just like Douglas MacArthur wanted to put up machine guns and shoot the bonus veterans of war I in Washington DC.

Quote from: me on November 11, 2016, 03:33:18 PM
This was his goal in the first place, the violence, and if marshall law isn't declared I'll be very surprised. As I stated way back when, I hope HH and I aren't the ones saying "I told you so".

:roll eyes: 

You really are nuts.  I saw this same tripe from a right wing nut job on my FB page.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 11, 2016, 03:44:30 PM
At least he could set a precedent.....because, if more violence continues, the National Guard needs to be sent in.  I think it would have a great purpose...to eliminate collateral damage that may occur.

I'm not sure what you mean by hyper critical commentary?

He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. It's just that simple and has been for 8 years. It is never enough or overreaching in the eyes of his detractors, and their caterwauling is now falling on deaf ears. Deaf ears of their own creation.

His detractors have been ranting since well before he took office; even during the first campaign for POTUS. And they have never stopped, and now that he is in the final 90 days in office they still have not stopped.

The people of this country feel like they've "made a statement". Now what statement would that be? Especially as we see already that the president elect's administration is going to be filled with the very individuals that started this violent cycle.

Since instead of sending the congressional do nothings responsible for 8 years of saying no to everything to the unemployment lines, we instead give them full control of the entire government.

We've just endured 8+ years of being held hostage by political extremists and now they have assumed full control. How in the eyes of anyone reasonable does this positively impact anything in this nation, except for those making 1 million dollars a year or more in income? The answer is it doesn't, and while the optimism is understood by this poster, the historic based analysis says it is not only misplaced but in reality the end of the middle class in this nation.

I don't see how putting the likes of Christy, Gingrich, et al into his administration helps anyone but the already wealthy in this nation. These are the very same people that hawked the elimination of the social safety nets of this country and held the government hostage to their political ideals, and now we've turned control over to them.

I've listened to friends and family hawking about how this was a historic turnout for this election. Historic? Really? The fact is the turnout in this election was the lowest it has been in 20 years, so the real statement is the high level of apathy that is obviously present within 50% of the voting aged population of this nation. They didn't care so they didn't vote. 

I get the electoral vote process and there was a time when it made sense in this nation to use it. It may still make sense; however, until this nation learns to deal with situations like the one we find ourselves in today wherein the "popular vote" results are opposite what the electoral vote results are, until we learn to accept the election results as adults and act that way, until we refuse to accept violent behavior as normal, then perhaps going back to tabulation of popular votes needs to take precedence again. I don't know but it certainly needs to be reviewed. Especially when the future of this nation is at stake.

Yes this election was historic. But one has to remember that history also covers the tragic failures of people and nations. We'll soon see where this one lands but the early signs are not looking good.

PH.....there is right and there is wrong...........being silent is wrong.  Despite of anything else.  It is HIS job to be the leader of this Country........I think that is another reason as to why Trump won........he is a LEADER.  The people of this country are in need.  With all of the division that has occured.......the Occupy Wall Street folks........the black lives mater....

Many of us are tired of it.   I want the "right" things to start being done.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 11, 2016, 04:29:57 PM
PH.....there is right and there is wrong...........being silent is wrong.  Despite of anything else.  It is HIS job to be the leader of this Country........I think that is another reason as to why Trump won........he is a LEADER.  The people of this country are in need.  With all of the division that has occured.......the Occupy Wall Street folks........the black lives mater....

Many of us are tired of it.   I want the "right" things to start being done.

Trump won because of the high level of voter apathy in this nation. Period.

Quote from: Palehorse on November 11, 2016, 05:04:29 PM
Trump won because of the high level of voter apathy in this nation. Period.

I'd say that's true on the Democratic side.  I'm not sure apathetic is a proper adjective to describe Trump voters.  :no:

Quote from: Palehorse on November 11, 2016, 04:10:25 PM
He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. It's just that simple and has been for 8 years. It is never enough or overreaching in the eyes of his detractors, and their caterwauling is now falling on deaf ears. Deaf ears of their own creation.

His detractors have been ranting since well before he took office; even during the first campaign for POTUS. And they have never stopped, and now that he is in the final 90 days in office they still have not stopped.

The people of this country feel like they've "made a statement". Now what statement would that be? Especially as we see already that the president elect's administration is going to be filled with the very individuals that started this violent cycle.

Since instead of sending the congressional do nothings responsible for 8 years of saying no to everything to the unemployment lines, we instead give them full control of the entire government.

We've just endured 8+ years of being held hostage by political extremists and now they have assumed full control. How in the eyes of anyone reasonable does this positively impact anything in this nation, except for those making 1 million dollars a year or more in income? The answer is it doesn't, and while the optimism is understood by this poster, the historic based analysis says it is not only misplaced but in reality the end of the middle class in this nation.

I don't see how putting the likes of Christy, Gingrich, et al into his administration helps anyone but the already wealthy in this nation. These are the very same people that hawked the elimination of the social safety nets of this country and held the government hostage to their political ideals, and now we've turned control over to them.

I've listened to friends and family hawking about how this was a historic turnout for this election. Historic? Really? The fact is the turnout in this election was the lowest it has been in 20 years, so the real statement is the high level of apathy that is obviously present within 50% of the voting aged population of this nation. They didn't care so they didn't vote. 

I get the electoral vote process and there was a time when it made sense in this nation to use it. It may still make sense; however, until this nation learns to deal with situations like the one we find ourselves in today wherein the "popular vote" results are opposite what the electoral vote results are, until we learn to accept the election results as adults and act that way, until we refuse to accept violent behavior as normal, then perhaps going back to tabulation of popular votes needs to take precedence again. I don't know but it certainly needs to be reviewed. Especially when the future of this nation is at stake.

Yes this election was historic. But one has to remember that history also covers the tragic failures of people and nations. We'll soon see where this one lands but the early signs are not looking good.

:yes:

   Yep, the Democrats are good at sitting on their asses and watching the world go by.  We will see the spot they are sitting on get real hot when the start to realize what Trump and the Republican can and will do to this country.  They need their asses burned.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 11, 2016, 04:29:57 PM
PH.....there is right and there is wrong...........being silent is wrong.  Despite of anything else.  It is HIS job to be the leader of this Country........I think that is another reason as to why Trump won........he is a LEADER.  The people of this country are in need.  With all of the division that has occured.......the Occupy Wall Street folks........the black lives mater....

Many of us are tired of it.   I want the "right" things to start being done.

Pffft!  The 'Right' is almost invariably wrong.

The Drumpf isn't a 'leader' - unless your 'idea' of a leader is a psychopathic, narcissistic, racist, bigot, authoritarian, wanna-be banana republic dictator.

He's a self-serving cretin who has walked all over every little person he's come across in his pursuit to be 'god'.

Many - if not most - of the 'right' things you want done are those intent on taking rights and liberties from others and self-serving economic advantages which deprive others in our society.

Your last lines are nothing but your 'dog whistling' racism.

Had my eyes checked today.  Received a good report from the doctor, but here I am, 5 hours later and my eyes are still dilated!   :mad:  I've been wearing sunglasses ever since, even now.  I'm glad my eyes are healthy, but, really, couldn't they tone down on the dilating eye drops?

You're wearing sunglasses while looking at the computer?  ;D

Quote from: AbbyTC on November 23, 2016, 07:28:50 PM
Had my eyes checked today.  Received a good report from the doctor, but here I am, 5 hours later and my eyes are still dilated!   :mad:  I've been wearing sunglasses ever since, even now.  I'm glad my eyes are healthy, but, really, couldn't they tone down on the dilating eye drops?

I have to have mine dialated every time I go for my yearly check-up now because macular degeneration runs in mom's side of the family and my eyes are elongated like a football, which is why I was so myopic until after my cataract surgery, and I'm at a higher risk for it since both are working against me. I just hope if it does happen it's the dry as opposed to the wet 'cause getting shots in my eyeball is sure something I really don't want.  :no: :no:

Quote from: AbbyTC on November 23, 2016, 07:28:50 PM
Had my eyes checked today.  Received a good report from the doctor, but here I am, 5 hours later and my eyes are still dilated!   :mad:  I've been wearing sunglasses ever since, even now.  I'm glad my eyes are healthy, but, really, couldn't they tone down on the dilating eye drops?

Go to one of the weed states and smoke a joint. It'll go right away.  :wink:  Or so I hear. . .  :biggrin:

One of the vision places around here does a new kind of test that maps out your eyes without having the drops that dilate your eyes.

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on November 26, 2016, 03:36:06 PM
One of the vision places around here does a new kind of test that maps out your eyes without having the drops that dilate your eyes.

I know they have one that shows progression of macular degeneration and there's no dilation but not one that could check for that, measure, check for cataracts, bleeding, or damage due to diabetes.

Quote from: Palehorse on November 11, 2016, 03:08:02 PM
A decade of hate, malice, and vitriol directed toward an office of this nation has now left it addicted to conflict and argument. It is clear that the level of acceptability toward violence has increased exponentially, and now we have a nation full of those that view conflict, argument, and violence as socially acceptable endeavors.

I see horrible things coming and there isn't a damned thing I can do about it except take the required measures to ensure the safety and well being of my family when the inevitable peak arrives.

I saw a documentary on Mort Downey, Jr from the 1980's/ He was the successor to the hate shock talk show host, Joe Pyne. 

Seems to me we have been seeking this type of outburst and hatred for a long time.  Seems to me this is not new.  Things were just as hateful under Reagan as I recall, and Daddy Bush, as well.  Under Bush W there was so much intimidation by the government, the ONLY ones who spoke out were the anti-everything crowd who wrapped religion around politics.

I don't see this as anything but an extension of what the media has sold our nation for years....how many of the Housewives of... do YOU know who talk with a civil and educated tongue?  how about Jersey shores.  "I do want to be like them" talk show circuits.

Army Corps of engineers have blocked the Dakota pipeline route, stopping it dead in its tracks. Victory for the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe, finally!

I see the republicans doing a land grab in Congress in January when Trump takes office and giving this back to the oil companies and banks.

Quote from: parkerdivine on December 04, 2016, 06:29:35 PM
I see the republicans doing a land grab in Congress in January when Trump takes office and giving this back to the oil companies and banks.

Yup!  I predict the same. 

Quote from: Palehorse on December 04, 2016, 05:41:16 PM
Army Corps of engineers have blocked the Dakota pipeline route, stopping it dead in its tracks. Victory for the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe, finally!

I suspect that's a bit premature and may completely fall apart once Drumpf is actually in power.

Quote from: Y on December 08, 2016, 02:50:09 PM
I suspect that's a bit premature and may completely fall apart once Drumpf is actually in power.

I hope you are wrong but suspect you are correct. . .

  We got some pretty savvy market people saying there is going to be a depression.  50% drop in property value and 30 to 40% drop in the stock market.  If this happens there is going to be one hell of a mess.   :rant:  Homelessness  and who knows, maybe food lines and for goodness sake don't buy anything on credit.  :rant:

Quote from: The Troll on December 08, 2016, 09:03:35 PM


  We got some pretty savvy market people saying there is going to be a depression.  50% drop in property value and 30 to 40% drop in the stock market.  If this happens there is going to be one hell of a mess.   :rant:  Homelessness  and who knows, maybe food lines and for goodness sake don't buy anything on credit.  :rant:

It won't surprise me if it turns out to be true.

Quote from: Palehorse on December 08, 2016, 09:08:36 PM
It won't surprise me if it turns out to be true.

These guys say that if you buy stock, buy something that is really good and something that people needs.  My stock is cigarettes, food, booze and electricity.  When I lost $63,000 under god damn George W. Bush, my stock still payed the same money in dividends.

  Since Obama, I got my $63,000 back and plus enough to buy a new 150 Ford Four Door pickup and it is loaded.  I really love Obama and I think he done one hell of a job.  :choo:  :choo:  :choo:

Quote from: The Troll on December 09, 2016, 03:06:48 PM
These guys say that if you buy stock, buy something that is really good and something that people needs.  My stock is cigarettes, food, booze and electricity.  When I lost $63,000 under god damn George W. Bush, my stock still payed the same money in dividends.

  Since Obama, I got my $63,000 back and plus enough to buy a new 150 Ford Four Door pickup and it is loaded.  I really love Obama and I think he done one hell of a job.  :choo:  :choo:  :choo:

Give me some name of these "guys" you are talking about........I think they are full of BS....

Had these allegations surrounding Russian influence arose post an election that saw Ms Clinto as the winner, just how do you think it would be handled then?

The Raging Cheeto and his henchmen would be raising hell as well as the entire GOP. They'd be demanding a special election in order to re-do the entire vote.  :yes:   :mad:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 09, 2016, 03:10:05 PM
Give me some name of these "guys" you are talking about........I think they are full of BS....

  I'm really bad on remembering name, I have a hard time remembering yours Hawk.  :haha:  But get off of Fox News and watch CNBC and watch some of the stock reports.   :biggrin:  Have you seen how the stock market has gone up since Trump got elected.   :wink:  :rolleyes:

  This is what happens just before the stock market CRASH!!!!  :trustme:  It happened before.   :yes:  Give it a year or a year and a half.  It's is coming.   :pigfly: :pink: :pigfly: :pink: :pigfly: :pink: :sos:

I love snow. . . But I absolutely detest this blistering cold weather which we are about to receive.  :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

We got everything we needed to do done today and don't have to stick our noses out the door tomorrow. Definitely gonna have the wood stove burnin' all day tomorrow instead of waiting 'til evening like we have been.

Quote from: Palehorse on December 14, 2016, 04:51:42 PM
I love snow. . . But I absolutely detest this blistering cold weather which we are about to receive.  :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

Same here!! I have NO PROBLEM with 2 feet of snow, as long as it is 28 degrees.......but, this 2 with a minus 18 wind chill...........BLOWs OUT THE ASS!! I love snow. . . But I absolutely detest this blistering cold weather which we are about to receive.  :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

  Besides being very cold, it dangerous.   :cold:   If you are out in your car and it stops or you get off the road and the motor quits and you can't find help right away.  You are in deep trouble.

  Years ago a friend of mine was transferred to Wisconsin to keep from being laid off during the oil  shut down.  He made friends up there and they give him a aluminum survival blanket, a heavy cover and a survival candle and showed him how to use it.  Just in case he had car trouble.   :yes: :biggrin:  I kept a blanket and  propane heater in the back seat.   :yes:

  Be careful out there and have something to keep you warm until help comes. :snowball:

Quote from: The Troll on December 15, 2016, 10:59:41 AM

  Besides being very cold, it dangerous.   :cold:   If you are out in your car and it stops or you get off the road and the motor quits and you can't find help right away.  You are in deep trouble.

  Years ago a friend of mine was transferred to Wisconsin to keep from being laid off during the oil  shut down.  He made friends up there and they give him a aluminum survival blanket, a heavy cover and a survival candle and showed him how to use it.  Just in case he had car trouble.   :yes: :biggrin:  I kept a blanket and  propane heater in the back seat.   :yes:

  Be careful out there and have something to keep you warm until help comes. :snowball:

In 1993, we were coming back from my wedding shower and we slid off the interstate 3 times before we got to a hotel and stayed there for 4 days. It is really bad on young kiddos at bus stops, elderly and pets. I see many kids who either don't like dressing warmly or parents can't afford the clothes to dress them warmly.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 15, 2016, 08:28:31 AM
Same here!! I have NO PROBLEM with 2 feet of snow, as long as it is 28 degrees.......but, this 2 with a minus 18 wind chill...........BLOWs OUT THE ASS!! I love snow. . . But I absolutely detest this blistering cold weather which we are about to receive.  :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

It's 2 degrees with a -18 wind chill?  :spooked:

Quote from: Locutus on December 15, 2016, 12:01:49 PM
It's 2 degrees with a -18 wind chill?  :spooked:

It was this morning...it is now a balmy 12 degrees with a Zero wind chill!!

But on a good note, it is supposed to be 48 on Saturday.  Woo Hoo!!

 :bbq610:

Fire up the grill!

:biggrin:

I'm thinking it's "Chili" time!!!   :yes:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 15, 2016, 12:15:05 PM
It was this morning...it is now a balmy 12 degrees with a Zero wind chill!!

But on a good note, it is supposed to be 48 on Saturday.  Woo Hoo!!

We are suppose to get up to 60 on Saturday and then Saturday evening, the temperature takes a nose dive.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 15, 2016, 12:15:05 PM
. . .

But on a good note, it is supposed to be 48 on Saturday.  Woo Hoo!!

IF the weather predictions are right, and they may not be. Already several of those forecasts are hedging their bets and indicating that while it may warm up compared to today, it may only get warm enough to ensure the precipitation we get will be ice and freezing fog.

Better get your secondary heating source ready and in working order before Saturday. The frigging electricity will go out and may be out for days if that shit comes in as an ice storm.  .  .  :mad:

Quote from: Palehorse on December 15, 2016, 01:37:52 PM
IF the weather predictions are right, and they may not be. Already several of those forecasts are hedging their bets and indicating that while it may warm up compared to today, it may only get warm enough to ensure the precipitation we get will be ice and freezing fog.

Better get your secondary heating source ready and in working order before Saturday. The frigging electricity will go out and may be out for days if that shit comes in as an ice storm.  .  .  :mad:

It happens it seems, every few years we get hit with an ice storm........about 10-years ago, we got hit that had us without power for three days.....I have a generator that can keep my furnace going.

Ice is dangerous.  My dad's cousin died a few years back due to ice.

He was leaving for work one morning and slipped on some black ice and hit his head on the pavement.  After about a 30 minute recovery, he went on in and worked.  He got a headache around lunchtime which got progressively worse during the afternoon.  By the time his wife got him to the hospital that evening, he was unconscious.  He died at around 2 a.m. the next morning. 

Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 15, 2016, 02:13:52 PM
It happens it seems, every few years we get hit with an ice storm........about 10-years ago, we got hit that had us without power for three days.....I have a generator that can keep my furnace going.

I remember that one. We were without power for 2 weeks in Meadowbrook. I remember going all the way to Castleton looking for kerosene heaters. Found 2 at the Sear outlet and bought them both. Still have them.

Now our power lines are all underground in this addition we live in. Problem is they're fed by above ground lines so we are still vulnerable.  :mad:

Since we've been here we've had ice induced power interruptions 4 or 5 times; the last one being just a couple of years ago when the ice got so heavy on the fewer lines that it snapped the telephone poles carrying them as if they were toothpicks. We were down about 12 hours with that one.

Quote from: Locutus on December 15, 2016, 12:39:45 PM
:bbq610:

Fire up the grill!

:biggrin:

  No, no, not in the house with charcoal.   :no: :no: :no:  You will kill yourself.  :knife:

Quote from: The Troll on December 15, 2016, 02:43:37 PM
  No, no, not in the house with charcoal.   :no: :no: :no:  You will kill yourself.  :knife:

I meant outside on Saturday when the temperature goes up to 48.  ;D

Quote from: Locutus on December 15, 2016, 02:53:13 PM
I meant outside on Saturday when the temperature goes up to 48.  ;D

In 2009, my grill master husband was outside grilling steaks and burgers. Lol!

Quote from: Locutus on December 15, 2016, 02:17:14 PM
Ice is dangerous.  My dad's cousin died a few years back due to ice.

He was leaving for work one morning and slipped on some black ice and hit his head on the pavement.  After about a 30 minute recovery, he went on in and worked.  He got a headache around lunchtime which got progressively worse during the afternoon.  By the time his wife got him to the hospital that evening, he was unconscious.  He died at around 2 a.m. the next morning. 

That is horrible!!!!!!!!

Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 15, 2016, 03:10:24 PM
That is horrible!!!!!!!!

Yes it was. 

The lesson in that is that it's a good idea to go ahead and get yourself checked out if you ever take more than a slight blow to the head.

His brain just started swelling, and by the time they found out and tried to stop it, it was too late. 

Quote from: Locutus on December 15, 2016, 03:14:18 PM
Yes it was. 

The lesson in that is that it's a good idea to go ahead and get yourself checked out if you ever take more than a slight blow to the head.

His brain just started swelling, and by the time they found out and tried to stop it, it was too late.

That is horrible

Quote from: Locutus on December 15, 2016, 03:14:18 PM
Yes it was. 

The lesson in that is that it's a good idea to go ahead and get yourself checked out if you ever take more than a slight blow to the head.

His brain just started swelling, and by the time they found out and tried to stop it, it was too late.

I keep trying to tell a friend of mine that who has MS and falls quite frequently but she won't listen and thinks she can tough it out when she falls and hits her head which she has a few times.

Quote from: Locutus on December 15, 2016, 02:17:14 PM
Ice is dangerous.  My dad's cousin died a few years back due to ice.

He was leaving for work one morning and slipped on some black ice and hit his head on the pavement.  After about a 30 minute recovery, he went on in and worked.  He got a headache around lunchtime which got progressively worse during the afternoon.  By the time his wife got him to the hospital that evening, he was unconscious.  He died at around 2 a.m. the next morning. 

:eek:  Something similar happened to me -- a year or so ago if memory serves me correctly. But not on ice. I was in the foyer my house, heading for the front door, when it opened and a relative, a big young man, walked in. All I remember is making contact. Then, I was standing there wondering what happened. He said I tripped on a rug and fell and hit the back of my head. I asked how I got up, and he said he picked me up. My thinking was very fuzzy; I wondered if I'd had a stroke because my left hand and rib area and foot felt funny. I walked to the kitchen and stood there by the sink, how long I don't know, until my head gradually cleared. Don't remember anything else except that I went to the living room and sat down and after a while decided I was going to live. It never occurred to me to call 911 or my doctor. It took a while for the rib pain to go away, but I was more worried  about something else -- after a while I realized I was having trouble remembering people's names, common products, etc., and I was a little unsteady on my feet. Time passed. I asked my daughter and a couple of others if they'd noticed any change in me, and they said no. My daughter said that after driving me to Bluefield and back one weekend.  Then one day I was listening to a doctor talking about the danger of concussion in football players, and had that ah-ha moment.

Damn. We're getting another round of this crap and are under another winter weather advisory until 7 am tomorrow morning. . . again.  :rant:

Why can't it just snow?  :mad:

Now it has been extended until noon tomorrow!

Winter Weather Advisory
INZ021-028>031-035>049-051>055-180415-
/O.EXT.KIND.WW.Y.0008.000000T0000Z-161218T1700Z/
CARROLL-WARREN-TIPPECANOE-CLINTON-HOWARD-FOUNTAIN-MONTGOMERY-
BOONE-TIPTON-HAMILTON-MADISON-DELAWARE-RANDOLPH-VERMILLION-PARKE-
PUTNAM-HENDRICKS-MARION-HANCOCK-HENRY-VIGO-CLAY-OWEN-MORGAN-
JOHNSON-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...LAFAYETTE...FRANKFORT...KOKOMO...
CRAWFORDSVILLE...ANDERSON...MUNCIE...INDIANAPOLIS...TERRE HAUTE
311 PM EST SAT DEC 17 2016

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY NOW IN EFFECT UNTIL NOON EST SUNDAY...

THE WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IS NOW IN EFFECT UNTIL NOON EST
SUNDAY.

* ACCUMULATIONS: ICE ACCUMULATIONS OF A TENTH TO PERHAPS TWO
TENTHS OF AN INCH TONIGHT. SNOW ACCUMULATIONS UP TO AN INCH ARE
POSSIBLE WITH LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS LATE TONIGHT. NORTHWEST
WINDS WILL GUST AT 25 TO 30 MPH LATE TONIGHT AS WELL.

* TIMING: RAIN WILL TRANSITION BACK TO FREEZING RAIN THROUGH THE
LATE AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING FROM NORTH TO SOUTH AS MUCH
COLDER AIR RUSHES IN. EXPECT A FLASH FREEZE OF ANY MOISTURE ON
SURFACES AS TEMPERATURES PLUMMET.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY MEANS THAT PERIODS OF SNOW...SLEET...OR
FREEZING RAIN WILL CAUSE TRAVEL DIFFICULTIES. BE PREPARED FOR
SLIPPERY ROADS AND LIMITED VISIBILITIES...AND USE CAUTION WHILE
DRIVING.

Slicker than Owl Shit outside! About fell and busted my ass on the patio just taking the pup out to go potty!  :rant: :mad:

At this juncture in time, I feel my entire purpose in this place is to facilitate my dogs eternal quest to create the word's largest piss-sicle outside!  :rant:

Sometimes people's mouths make it extremely hard to keep the spirit of the holidays at the forefront of my behavior!  :rant: :mad:

If 2017 doesn't hurry up and get here I amy not have a tongue left!  :mad:

:biggrin:

If this new POTUS is going to be so great for the economy, why are retail stores closing in droves? Macys, Kmart, Sears, Kohls, all posted record level declines over this just past holiday season and are announcing store closures across the country. . .

~ I'm just saying. . .

I hate cold weather, snow and cold weather!!!

Quote from: Palehorse on January 05, 2017, 06:55:56 PM
If this new POTUS is going to be so great for the economy, why are retail stores closing in droves? Macys, Kmart, Sears, Kohls, all posted record level declines over this just past holiday season and are announcing store closures across the country. . .

~ I'm just saying. . .

Kohl's, too? I haven't heard about that one.  There are two Kmarts and one Sears closing around here.  The Sears never seemed busy, even after they put the Land's End collection in.  The Kmarts took a hit after Wal-Mart and Target came around, especially after Target. 

Quote from: AbbyTC on January 05, 2017, 07:39:33 PM
Kohl's, too? I haven't heard about that one.  There are two Kmarts and one Sears closing around here.  The Sears never seemed busy, even after they put the Land's End collection in.  The Kmarts took a hit after Wal-Mart and Target came around, especially after Target.

Kohls just posted record year over year declines today, so while they have not yet announced store closures it is a safe bet they are in the works.

But I thought the economy was flourshing under Obama.

Quote from: Palehorse on January 05, 2017, 06:55:56 PM
If this new POTUS is going to be so great for the economy, why are retail stores closing in droves? Macys, Kmart, Sears, Kohls, all posted record level declines over this just past holiday season and are announcing store closures across the country. . .

~ I'm just saying. . .

I suspect it has MORE to do with On-Line sales........Amazon, Ebay and the like had a phenomenal season.  People are buying from the comforts of home rather than fighting crowds. 

  There has been more products that I can buy from Ebay are cheaper and with free shipping, than I can buy at a big box store.  Same product, but lower cost.  I would guess that the big box stores have to pay a lot of rent to show me 90% of the items I don't want or need.   :shrug:

Quote from: The Troll on January 06, 2017, 01:06:53 PM

  There has been more products that I can buy from Ebay are cheaper and with free shipping, than I can buy at a big box store.  Same product, but lower cost.  I would guess that the big box stores have to pay a lot of rent to show me 90% of the items I don't want or need.   :shrug:

  Yesterday I got up and went to the front door.  I stuck my head out and it was 2 degrees above  zero.  I looked out at the brass monkey I keep on the front porch and his bass balls had fell off.   :yes:  I sure would like to see it warm up.  About the monkey's balls, I will put them back on when it warms up.   :wink: :biggrin:

Quote from: The Troll on January 08, 2017, 06:33:38 PM
  Yesterday I got up and went to the front door.  I stuck my head out and it was 2 degrees above  zero.  I looked out at the brass monkey I keep on the front porch and his bass balls had fell off.   :yes:  I sure would like to see it warm up.  About the monkey's balls, I will put them back on when it warms up.   :wink: :biggrin:

:biggrin:

Single digit temperatures to 62 degrees then back down again by the weekend.

Someone get mother nature some Prozac. . . She's off her rocker!  :rant:

This is bound to drive a sharp increase in pneumonia cases!  :mad: :mad: :mad:

Severe thunderstorms in January?  :spooked:

Yeah, that shit is just wrong! SO WRONG!  :rant:

Swell. . . You jokers don't like snow and keep boo-hoo ing it up when I do my snow dance. . . So now we're going to get a three day ice storm that threatens to cut power and impose havoc upon a swath of the US from Texas to Ohio this weekend.  :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

Get your secondary heating devices in working order, fuel up the chain saws, and lay in supplies that do not require refrigeration. . . There's going to be neighborhood BBQ's springing up all along this storms path. . .

Now, I hate winter but wish the weather would make up its mind!

I despise ice storms! Power outages SUCK!


Last night the wind knocked out our power for 12 hours!


We were lucky it was not too cold out like it was....we got by this time.


Praying this system is not going to be as bad as they suggest it may be.

Quote from: Palehorse on January 11, 2017, 08:02:56 PM
Swell. . . You jokers don't like snow and keep boo-hoo ing it up when I do my snow dance. . . So now we're going to get a three day ice storm that threatens to cut power and impose havoc upon a swath of the US from Texas to Ohio this weekend.  :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

Get your secondary heating devices in working order, fuel up the chain saws, and lay in supplies that do not require refrigeration. . . There's going to be neighborhood BBQ's springing up all along this storms path. . .

You haven't done any snow dances lately, as in this year, so this is your fault not ours.

Quote from: me on January 11, 2017, 10:15:42 PM
You haven't done any snow dances lately, as in this year, so this is your fault not ours.

Careful. . .

Quote from: Palehorse on January 11, 2017, 10:16:17 PM
Careful. . .

:biggrin:

Palehorse?!!  It's time!!! Do your snow dance!!! I despise ice storms!!! Bring snow!!! Bring it like you have Ever brung it!  :yes:

Unfortunately it may be too late HH.  :(

I swear, the hypocrisy of the Trumpanzees is seriously astounding. Social media is replete with memes implying people need to support their new president and stop protesting.

What the fuck have they been doing for the last 8 years?  :rolleyes: :rant:

Quote from: Palehorse on January 18, 2017, 09:21:37 PM
I swear, the hypocrisy of the Trumpanzees is seriously astounding. Social media is replete with memes implying people need to support their new president and stop protesting.

What the fuck have they been doing for the last 8 years?  :rolleyes: :rant:

I don't recall people shutting, or trying, down roads, bullying people who were talking about performing at any events, or causing any kind of unrest in general.

Quote from: me on January 18, 2017, 11:24:19 PM
I don't recall people shutting, or trying, down roads, bullying people who were talking about performing at any events, or causing any kind of unrest in general.

No? What do you call 8 years of obstructionistic politics and steadfast support of same; all the while publicly posted derogatory memes as fact, and espousing emotional propaganda designed to stir up the masses in order to deflect from the fact that the aforementioned obstructionistic politics were ruining the quality of life of millions of US citizens? Some of them the very ones doing the supporting and spewing.

And then there was the shutting down of the government over nefarious political ideologies, and the constant threat to keep doing it. Which in turn placed this nations global credit rating into the toilet.

What do you call the constant caterwauling over the absolutely false claim of ineligibility of a sitting POTUS  to hold said office due to not being born in this country? Which STILL persists 8 years later and just days from the end of his final term.

And then there is the outrageous persecution of a sitting POTUS based upon a religion. . .

A few demonstrations and protests pale in comparison to the long term damage done to this nation and its citizens by the racially motivated and treasonous actions imposed upon this nation by those now supporting the Raging Cheeto.

The bottom line is this........there is NO comparison.  The democrat party is embarrassing itself to no-end.  Never, have I witnessed such whinny-assed cry-babies in my life.

Trump won.

He IS our next POTUS.

Time will tell us the truth..........they WANT him to fail before he even takes office. 

Get back to me in a couple of years and lets compare notes.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 19, 2017, 10:17:41 AM
The bottom line is this........there is NO comparison.  The democrat party is embarrassing itself to no-end.  Never, have I witnessed such whinny-assed cry-babies in my life.

Trump won.

He IS our next POTUS.

Time will tell us the truth..........they WANT him to fail before he even takes office. 

Get back to me in a couple of years and lets compare notes.

  You are one of the 37% of the people who approves of Trump.  :haha:  I am one of the 63% of the people who are in the unfavorable opinion of :pigdance: Trump.  Yes, we will see who right. :haha:  Hey, you want to bet that his rating will be higher at this time next year.   :wink:  I got a nice new $100 bill says it will be the same or lower.  Come on Bunky, open your moth eaten billfold and bet your true feelings.   :repub:  I know you got the money, you live in Anderson.  :007:

  But dealing with you is like :deadhorse:   :biggrin:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 19, 2017, 10:17:41 AM
The bottom line is this........there is NO comparison.  The democrat party is embarrassing itself to no-end.  Never, have I witnessed such whinny-assed cry-babies in my life.

. . .

Seriously? The 60's and early 70's would have been enough to have given you a stroke then. . .

Quote from: The Troll on January 19, 2017, 11:40:20 AM

  You are one of the 37% of the people who approves of Trump.  :haha:  I am one of the 63% of the people who are in the unfavorable opinion of

Yeah, the same pollsters who said Clinton was going to be our next POTUS!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Quote from: me on January 18, 2017, 11:24:19 PM
I don't recall people shutting, or trying, down roads, bullying people who were talking about performing at any events, or causing any kind of unrest in general.

Has senility struck you, or simple hypocrisy?

You're older than I am, and that's been commonplace since at least the Sixties.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 19, 2017, 10:17:41 AM
The bottom line is this........there is NO comparison.  The democrat party is embarrassing itself to no-end.  Never, have I witnessed such whinny-assed cry-babies in my life.

Pfffttt!!!

Can you point to them wearing name tags, carrying signs, or any other indisputable indications that they're the "democrat party"?

You really should stop talking out your arse.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 19, 2017, 12:34:51 PM
Yeah, the same pollsters who said Clinton was going to be our next POTUS!!

The fact that Hillary ran away with the popular vote shows your lack of logic in asserting the pollsters were wrong about her support...

...and that your flawed logic somehow supports your BS assertion that the polls are wrong showing Herr Drumpf's public support is abysmal.

Quote from: Y on January 20, 2017, 01:33:28 PM
The fact that Hillary ran away with the popular vote shows your lack of logic in asserting the pollsters were wrong about her support...

...and that your flawed logic somehow supports your BS assertion that the polls are wrong showing Herr Drumpf's public support is abysmal.

BLAH BLAH BLAH.......YOU LOST;GET OVER IT

TRUMP WON BY A ELECTORAL LANDSLIDE....

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 20, 2017, 02:02:17 PM
TRUMP WON BY A ELECTORAL LANDSLIDE....

Another lie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_elections_by_Electoral_College_margin

46.    2016    Donald Trump    538    304    227    0.130    56.50%


Don't you EVER get tired of lying?  That is against your claimed religion.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 20, 2017, 02:02:17 PM
BLAH BLAH BLAH.......YOU LOST;GET OVER IT

TRUMP WON BY A ELECTORAL LANDSLIDE....

Damn, Henry, again??  We proved this to you before! 

61 degrees in the middle of January?!  :spooked: :mad:

Quote from: Palehorse on January 21, 2017, 02:25:30 PM
61 degrees in the middle of January?!  :spooked: :mad:

It is 75 here. Mother Nature is a menopausal bitch.

Quote from: Palehorse on January 21, 2017, 02:25:30 PM
61 degrees in the middle of January?!  :spooked: :mad:

We're in the mid 40's.  Loving this winter!  I hope February will be as mild.

Quote from: AbbyTC on January 21, 2017, 06:54:25 PM
We're in the mid 40's.  Loving this winter!  I hope February will be as mild.

Got up to 65 here this afternoon. . .  :mad:

At this rate I'll have to start mowing again soon. . .  :mad:

Quote from: Palehorse on January 21, 2017, 07:53:45 PM
Got up to 65 here this afternoon. . .  :mad:

At this rate I'll have to start mowing again soon. . .  :mad:

That's happened here a few times.  One time when I was in college it happened and I called up my cousin and we went out and played tennis.  First time I ever wore shorts in January.  Loved it! 

Quote from: AbbyTC on January 21, 2017, 10:32:43 PM
That's happened here a few times.  One time when I was in college it happened and I called up my cousin and we went out and played tennis.  First time I ever wore shorts in January.  Loved it!

It is nice but I wish it would be cold. This fluctuation in temperatures makes everyone sick.

I HATE COMCRAP!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

It is so damned warm outside that my maple tree is starting to bud. In JANUARY!  :spooked:

Quote from: Palehorse on January 25, 2017, 03:50:43 PM
It is so damned warm outside that my maple tree is starting to bud. In JANUARY!  :spooked:

Our daffodils are trying to come out.

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on January 25, 2017, 03:57:47 PM
Our daffodils are trying to come out.

Shit. Better go check ours!  :spooked:

Quote from: Palehorse on January 25, 2017, 04:00:03 PM
Shit. Better go check ours!  :spooked:

Tulips also. Damn, Mother Nature and her menopausal self..

  Say Guys, did you know that PMS existed in biblical time.   :confused:   Yes it did.   Mary rode Joseph ass all the way to Bethlehem.  :rotfl:  :rotfl:

Quote from: The Troll on January 25, 2017, 08:34:33 PM

  Say Guys, did you know that PMS existed in biblical time.   :confused:   Yes it did.   Mary rode Joseph ass all the way to Bethlehem.  :rotfl:  :rotfl:

You know it is called putting up with men's shit! Hahahahahahaha

Now the Raging Cheeto is going to sign an order to demand social media and cell phone contacts from every foreign visitor before entry would be considered.

We are offending the rest of this planet with this crap. . .  :rant: :mad:

Let alone that would be extremely difficult to enforce and verify. 

I HATE the Patriots!!!!!!!  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Quote from: Palehorse on February 05, 2017, 10:05:53 PM
I HATE the Patriots!!!!!!!  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

I do too!....but Belichick knows how to win....

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 06, 2017, 08:33:19 AM
I do too!....but Belichick knows how to win....

Cheating comes to mind.. .

6 years ago I entered all of my telephone numbers into the Indiana Attorney Generals Do Not Call List. My numbers have not changed in that time,  nor has my address.

The last two months I have been receiving an endless stream of calls from various locations and numbers across this nation, all of them containing a message that starts, "This is Heather at Credit Card Services and we're calling about your credit card account". . . Automated calls.

I carefully hang up and block each one of these calls on my phone, hanging up on them immediately. Then another number calls. . .

As a result I have compiled a long list of numbers that each have had the very same message. This morning I have sent that list of numbers to the Indian Attorney General's office and filed two formal complaints against the company subjecting both of my phones to these stupid calls. I have case numbers already on both complaints. And I will continue to log them as they come in via my blocked listing.

I only own one credit card - American Express. And they know how to contact me directly.

If you are being subjected to the same calls, PLEASE file a complaint with the Attorney Generals office in your state. It's time to stop this bullshit!  :mad: :mad: :mad:

Your number has to be renewed on the list in Florida every 5 years or else it's removed.  Is it the same in Indiana?

Quote from: Locutus on February 09, 2017, 04:22:31 PM
Your number has to be renewed on the list in Florida every 5 years or else it's removed.  Is it the same in Indiana?

7 years. And all of my numbers are currently still on the effective list. In fact, when I went to re-register them there this morning I received a message that all of my numbers are still active on the current list, and that the list doesn't expire. So I immediately went to the complaint page and filed two complaints.

The federal listing does not expire:

https://www.donotcall.gov/default.aspx (https://www.donotcall.gov/default.aspx)

Yeah, I'm on that list too. 

I wonder how they handle that though with people dying, changing numbers, etc.  It would seem that there would have to be some expiration to it. 

Robo calls are illegal according to the FTC.

I just filed complaints with them too. Here's the link.

https://complaints.donotcall.gov/complaint/complaintcheck.aspx (https://complaints.donotcall.gov/complaint/complaintcheck.aspx)

You do not have to be on the federal registry to file a complaint about robo calls.

Quote from: Locutus on February 09, 2017, 04:50:32 PM
Yeah, I'm on that list too. 

I wonder how they handle that though with people dying, changing numbers, etc.  It would seem that there would have to be some expiration to it.

The thought process is that the owner(s) of the registered number(s) is responsible for updating the information. Anyone dying would eventually have their number/account cancelled and the number re-issued to someone else. If that new owner goes to register their number it would transfer ownership of the number to the new owner.

I don't know anyone that wants phone solicitors calling them. . .

PH, we have had the same calls. The last time when I actually got to speak to an actual person, I asked them did they know we were on a no call list, and I was calling our attorney general to report them as we don't have a credit card. We have a bank card but not a credit card. They promptly hung up and haven't bothered us since.

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on February 09, 2017, 06:34:21 PM
PH, we have had the same calls. The last time when I actually got to speak to an actual person, I asked them did they know we were on a no call list, and I was calling our attorney general to report them as we don't have a credit card. We have a bank card but not a credit card. They promptly hung up and haven't bothered us since.

They are clearly in violation of not only the no call lists when they do this, but in clear violation of robo call legislation according to the FTC.

Moreover, most of these calls are nothing more than criminals attempting to scam people out of their money. A lot of the numbers that come up in caller id are spoofed numbers . . .  :mad:

Quote from: Palehorse on February 09, 2017, 06:39:31 PM
They are clearly in violation of not only the no call lists when they do this, but in clear violation of robo call legislation according to the FTC.

Moreover, most of these calls are nothing more than criminals attempting to scam people out of their money. A lot of the numbers that come up in caller id are spoofed numbers . . .  :mad:

Yep and they have actually even gotten so smart to use your local area code and number so you think it is someone calling you that you may know. I got where I don't answer the calls.