The Drive-by Bitch

[Palehorse]

I had a Ford Expedition for 10 years and never had a stitch of trouble out of it until the 10th year.

Of the big 3 I would trust Ford's quality and reliability head and shoulders above the other two right now. I've rented several Fords when traveling for work and pleasure, and I've liked every single one of them. . .    My late father primarily drove Fords throughout his lifetime, and while he was alive so did I. (I even had a couple among the classic car collection I once owned back in the day - a 1965 Galaxie 500 was one of them.) 

My Father-In-Law and one of my Brother's in law are both GM retirees, so as long as the father in law is alive I'll buy GM if I buy from the big 3. . . In fact I was afraid of the reaction we'd get from him over buying a new Nissan, but to our amazement he fully supported our decision and raves over the vehicle. 

[Purplelady1040]

I have had a Ford previously a few years ago and never had problems. We used it to trade in for a GM product that gave us problems. Now, before I ever got married I also owned some Fords that were problems but I always went with American made products until after I got  married. Ford and Chevy couldn't touch the deal the Mitsubishi dealer gave us and we went to them first before we even looked at the Mitsubishi!

[The Troll]

By the way, the plan only works with immediate family so doubtful that friends fly on that! You do realize, well,  probably not since you are stuck in your own stupidity that a lot of foreign made vehicles are now made in the States. When Ford or Chevy can last as long as most foreign made vehicles than I will go back to driving one! My very first car that parents got me was a Datsun made by Nissan and it last well over 200,000 miles and I only sold it because I wanted an Oldsmobile product which didn't las 6 months. The Datsun was used when I got it!
We buy American made as much as possible but sometimes necessity shows you buy something that will last. I don't purchase vehicles every other year like some people or even every 3 years but tend to keep one for 6-8 years. This Mitsubishi got us to South Carolina going and coming on one tank of gas. The last time we went, 3 years ago,our American made product didn't do that!

  There you go with your right wing brain out in left field.     I have worked for Ford for 38 years and have been retired 17 years and in the last three years 4 people, not family member used my plan to buy new Fords.      With my plan I can get it for anyone I chose.      Even you in another state.  Ford doesn't care who I chose to buy a Ford product.

  I will admit that a Ford dealer doesn't not want your old car or truck, that is because they don't hardly make any money on the new car or truck.      Sell your old car and walk into a Ford dealership and buy a new car or truck with no hassle, no hidden cost and drive a new vehicle out.  My wife bought a new Edge SUV two years ago.  Since we had given our older car to my son.  We walked into the dealership and pick out a new Edge off the lot.  We walked back into the dealership told them  the one we wanted and the salesman said, wait a minute I'll be right back.  About 15 minutes he came back, showed us the invoice and the price they wanted for it.  We signed the paper and walked out of the office.  We did pay cash for the car.  We drove out in a new car with no hassle.   

  But Sweetie Pie, those Jap cars plants are owned by Jap companies.  Yes, their cars are built in America.  But you big dummy, the profit goes back to Japan where they figure what other items they can sell to the stupid Americans and take more money from the USA.

  Did you know that once the floor  pan is placed on the automated assembly line.  The complete outer shell of the body of the car can be built without one human being on the assembly line or touched by a human hand.  Also all of the robots that puts it together are foreign made.  It sure sound like a good deal for the American economy.     Keep buying those foreign cars and you can help America recover from George W. Bush's depression.    It's too bad that it isn't really funny.   

[Y]

I had a Ford Expedition for 10 years and never had a stitch of trouble out of it until the 10th year.

The trick is to do the research on the vehicle.  Every car company has good and bad vehicles.  Also, you need to look at a vehicle as a tool, a tool to get you from point A to point B and back reliably.

Back in the day when engines were all cast iron, transmissions simpler, and cars were made primarily by hand with union labor, you could practically expect any vehicle to give you decades of service if you serviced them properly.  Today it's not the case, you have to research them.

I own vehicles by all the current major American manufacturers, and all were researched for reliability.  I always look to buy low mileage older vehicles for several reasons.  They have a track record to research for problems; the new model bugs are worked out; I pay cash so there are no loan costs nor full coverage insurance costs; there are no ridiculous plate or registration costs; and you can buy parts on the open market instead of the overpriced dealer.

The newest car I own is a 1997 Blazer at under 100k miles with the ever reliable 4.3 Vortec V6 motor.  It is a replacement for a 94 Blazer with 130k that the body has rusted out.  I have three Ford Taurus wagons, 93, 94, 95.  The 93 is under 100k, the 95 is just over 100k, and the 94 is pushing 170k.  All have the great Vulcan V6 3.0/3.8 in them.  I have a 94 GMC Sonoma with just over 100k and has the solid 2.2 I4.  Lastly, I have a 94 Chrysler Town and Country van with the 3.3 motor that will run forever - as this one is doing at working on 165k miles.  I sold my 89 Dodge Caravan cargo van that had over a quarter million miles (250k) with the 3.3 motor and still going strong - it was getting rust issues.

The only downside to this is that our county has put a $25 per vehicle wheel tax in place to swell the coffers for road repair - even though we're already paying taxes for road maintenance.  Rumor has it that the wheel tax is being used elsewhere - as are the other road maintenance taxes. 

[Purplelady1040]

  There you go with your right wing brain out in left field.     I have worked for Ford for 38 years and have been retired 17 years and in the last three years 4 people, not family member used my plan to buy new Fords.      With my plan I can get it for anyone I chose.      Even you in another state.  Ford doesn't care who I chose to buy a Ford product.

  I will admit that a Ford dealer doesn't not want your old car or truck, that is because they don't hardly make any money on the new car or truck.      Sell your old car and walk into a Ford dealership and buy a new car or truck with no hassle, no hidden cost and drive a new vehicle out.  My wife bought a new Edge SUV two years ago.  Since we had given our older car to my son.  We walked into the dealership and pick out a new Edge off the lot.  We walked back into the dealership told them  the one we wanted and the salesman said, wait a minute I'll be right back.  About 15 minutes he came back, showed us the invoice and the price they wanted for it.  We signed the paper and walked out of the office.  We did pay cash for the car.  We drove out in a new car with no hassle.   

  But Sweetie Pie, those Jap cars plants are owned by Jap companies.  Yes, their cars are built in America.  But you big dummy, the profit goes back to Japan where they figure what other items they can sell to the stupid Americans and take more money from the USA.

  Did you know that once the floor  pan is placed on the automated assembly line.  The complete outer shell of the body of the car can be built without one human being on the assembly line or touched by a human hand.  Also all of the robots that puts it together are foreign made.  It sure sound like a good deal for the American economy.     Keep buying those foreign cars and you can help America recover from George W. Bush's depression.    It's too bad that it isn't really funny.   

Nope, that is what is stated by the Ford employee plan! I know you have a hard time understanding that but since you claimed you worked there you should know the rules of the plan! By the way,  old man, all cars are done that way to some degree. Ever been to the Corvette plant? They do the same thing but you are so stuck on stupid that you don't realize that!
By the way,ignorant one, the cars I was taking to Ford wasn't that old when we wanted to trade but you just assume they were. You do know what assume means? It means you are making an ass out of youself but that is something you are good at! It was only after we got our kids that we have kept cars longer than 5 years before that we would trade every 3 years. A 3 year old car with less than 45,000 miles is a good deal for anyone except you who probably would snub it!

[Purplelady1040]

The trick is to do the research on the vehicle.  Every car company has good and bad vehicles.  Also, you need to look at a vehicle as a tool, a tool to get you from point A to point B and back reliably.

Back in the day when engines were all cast iron, transmissions simpler, and cars were made primarily by hand with union labor, you could practically expect any vehicle to give you decades of service if you serviced them properly.  Today it's not the case, you have to research them.

Exactly Y, that is what we did with ours. We researched several and test drove a lot of them. You mentioned your Dodg Caravan that you had, when I met my husband, he had a Dodge Caravan also. I think it was a 1992, it was new at the time but had started rusting also. I think that was an issue they had with them but not sure.

[The Troll]

Nope, that is what is stated by the Ford employee plan! I know you have a hard time understanding that but since you claimed you worked there you should know the rules of the plan! By the way,  old man, all cars are done that way to some degree. Ever been to the Corvette plant? They do the same thing but you are so stuck on stupid that you don't realize that!
By the way,ignorant one, the cars I was taking to Ford wasn't that old when we wanted to trade but you just assume they were. You do know what assume means? It means you are making an ass out of youself but that is something you are good at! It was only after we got our kids that we have kept cars longer than 5 years before that we would trade every 3 years. A 3 year old car with less than 45,000 miles is a good deal for anyone except you who probably would snub it!

  You must be one of the most stupid college educated asshole I have ever seen.    You don't know anything about the Ford Motor Co. "A" plan.    You are a disgrace to the college you say you went to.     They just can't educate a moron.     I sure would love to find you drowning off a pier at Kentucky lake and I had a life saving ring in my hand and no one was around.  Bye, bye. 

[Purplelady1040]

 

  You must be one of the most stupid college educated asshole I have ever seen.    You don't know anything about the Ford Motor Co. "A" plan.    You are a disgrace to the college you say you went to.     They just can't educate a moron.     I sure would love to find you drowning off a pier at Kentucky lake and I had a life saving ring in my hand and no one was around.  Bye, bye. 

Shows your stupidity in that Kentucky Lake doesn't have piers but one thing about it  you are a disgrace as a man!  Actually, you are no man at all but just a little man who thinks he knows it all! Hate to tell you, but you are just pissed that you got called out on the Ford plan and that it is for family only. Now continue showing the ass that you are because it is all you know how to be. I bet your wife is grateful when you go to bed at night so she doesn't have to listen to you!

[Purplelady1040]

 

  You must be one of the most stupid college educated asshole I have ever seen.    You don't know anything about the Ford Motor Co. "A" plan.    You are a disgrace to the college you say you went to.     They just can't educate a moron.     I sure would love to find you drowning off a pier at Kentucky lake and I had a life saving ring in my hand and no one was around.  Bye, bye. 

Shows your stupidity in that Kentucky Lake doesn't have piers but one thing about you are a disgrace as a man!  Actually, you are no man at all but just a little man who thinks he knows it all! Hate to tell you, but you are just pissed that you got called out on the Ford plan and that it is for family only. Now continue showing the ass that you are because it is all you know how to be. I bet your wife is grateful when you go to bed at night so she doesn't have to listen to you!

[Purplelady1040]

  From Ford pricing


Who's eligible for A Plan & Z Plan Pricing?




An eligible Ford employee (A-Plan) or retiree/surviving spouse (Z-Plan) may generate up to four (4) PIN's per calendar year to be used toward the purchase/lease of a new vehicle for them or their eligible family members as noted below:
•All active full-time hourly employees & regular salaried employees, beginning with date of hire.
•All hourly retirees receiving a normal, early (regular or special) or disability retirement benefit, as long as any medical benefits are being received.
•Salaried retirees who retired under the General Retirement Plan, including salaried employees who terminate between the ages of 50-55 and who are eligible to receive certain deferred retirement benefits, are eligible while they are receiving benefits.
•Surviving spouses of employees who died while actively employed and surviving spouses of retirees who retired under the General Retirement Plan, or who are receiving benefits under the Ford-UAW Retirement Plan.
•All U.S. Temporary Part-Time employees (TPTs) are eligible for A-Plan in the U.S.
•Employees on an approved leave of absence, for the duration of the leave or until expiration of any medical benefits.
•Employees on layoff, for the first 12 months of the layoff.
•Employees taking a separation package, complete details on their AXZ-Plan privileges are included in their separation packet.
•All regular part-time hourly and salaried employees who are eligible to receive medical benefits.
•Deferred Vested Retirees while they are receiving a Ford pension check.
•Members of the immediate family of the above. "Immediate family" means the following relatives of the employee or retiree:
•Spouse
• Parents
• Spouse's Parents
• Grandparents
• Spouse's grandparents
• Sons and daughters (including in-laws and step-children)
• Grandchildren
• Brothers and sisters (including in-laws, half and step)
•Employees of approved subsidiary companies and approved affiliated companies as eligibility is defined at the time of approval.
•When both the employee/retiree and his/her spouse are deceased, the surviving family members are no longer eligible.


Now tell me where it says friends on there! Funny, you criticize me but haven't seen you say one word to Palehorse about his buying a Nissan. Face it, the only reason you are criticizing me is because you don't like me and that is okay the feeling is very mutual. You don't understand that nowadays people research, test drive and choose what will work for them and their budgets plus their needs!

[Palehorse]

You know what really chaps my hide? (I'm going to tell you whether you want to know or not). 

How can a "former automotive industry" town that was kicked to the curb like a 5 dollar hooker, have the gall to claim that the "automotive industry is coming back strong!", when the employees currently working for said industry, within said town, cannot afford to purchase even the cheapest model they break their backs to manufacture, considering the level at which they are compensated? 

Yes. I am talking about Anderson, Indiana. When the hell will the average "Joe & Jane" in that town accept the city's fate of becoming a bedroom community to the almighty Indianapolis? When will they stop crying to the heavens about being wronged by GM? When will they realize their caterwauling has done nothing but make them primary victims in the automotive industry's evil scheme to "build them cheaper and sell them for more"?

These people are being paid at near 3rd world wage levels, (especially when you consider what healthcare premiums are for the coverages they offer), and a number of them are working additional jobs just to keep a roof over their heads and the cupboard partially filled. The extremist conservative cancer spreading throughout this nation has handed the reins of control over to the almighty corporation, and are serving up the lives of each and every single employee and their families as sacrifices at the altar of corporate profit.   

[Henry Hawk]

The best thing for that town is the damn......build the lake and it might be a decent town one of these days.  The union got too greedy and blew it all.

[Anne]

Last week I went to Meijers. It was crowded, not a problem, I wasn't in a hurry. Did my grocery shopping and got in a line to check out. Two ladies in front of me with a lot of kids with them (I finally counted six of them). Still no problem. They had two carts full of groceries. First lady starts unloading the first cart, gets halfway through and pays for that part with WIC coupons. Starts to unload the rest of the cart and the second lady reappears from behind  me and five other people in line with armloads of more groceries for the second cart, disappears again. First lady then pays for the rest of the first cart with food stamp card. Starts unloading the second cart. Second lady appears briefly and pays for that order with WIC coupons. Begins to unload rest of second cart, disappears again. Then she comes the wrong way to the register with another full cart. She finally pays for the rest of the groceries with food stamp card. It took over 30 minutes. If I could have got out of line I would have left. Oh, and one of the ladies took a little time out to nurse the baby she was carrying during the check out process.

[Y]

That's bad customer service all the way around.  The cashier should have put a stop to that, and the manager as well, and the manager should have opened another line for you folks.

[Y]

The best thing for that town is the damn......build the lake and it might be a decent town one of these days.  The union got too greedy and blew it all.

Here's another issue you haven't a clue about.  The dam won't help Anderson.  It will ruin one of the most beautiful stretches of that river as well as the wildlife.  It will destroy neighborhoods and damage Mounds Park.  It will also pose a danger to folks downstream.  There's also no Indy market for the water.

On the union issue, you're just an idiot.  Your 'opinion' on that subject has LONG been debunked.

BTW, it's dam not damn.