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Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 23, 2018, 12:33:28 PM
Okay,
This is just a copy n paste job.....I haven't fact checked, but I am posting them here anyway...because I'm sure it will get ripped apart by the haters.


I'm tired of people claiming Trump isn't working hard or keeping his promises.....Most of them are undeniable....Some of them, I'm sure you dislike, but they were promises he made to his voters.


Here is a list that is longer than I think any of the past three POTUS's has accomplished....


1. Supreme Court Judge Gorsuch
2. Made friends with World leaders.[/color][/size]
3. He took us out of TPP
4. Illegal immigration is now down 70%( the lowest in 17 years)
5. Consumer confidence highest since 2000 at index 125.6
6. Mortgage applications for new homes rise to a seven year high
7. Arranged from 7% to 24% Tariff on lumber from Canada
8. Bids for border wall are well underway
9. Pulled out of the lopsided Paris accord
10. Keystone pipeline approved
11. NATO allies boost spending by 4.3%
12. Allowing VA to terminate bad employees
13. Allowing private healthcare choices for veterans
14. More than 2,000,000. Jobs created
15. Median household income at a 7 year high
16. The Stock Market is at the highest ever in its history
17. China agreed to American import of beef
18. $89 Billion saved in regulation rollbacks
19. Rollback of A Regulation to boost coal mining
20. MOAB for ISIS
21. Travel ban reinstated
22. Executive order for religious freedom
23. Jump started NASA
24. $600 million cut from UN peacekeeping budget
25. Targeting of MS13 gangs
26. Deporting violent illegal immigrants
27. Signed 41 bills to date
28. Created a commission on child trafficking
29. Created a commission on voter fraud
30. Created a commission for opioids addiction
31. Giving power to states to drug test unemployment recipients
32. Unemployment lowest since May 2007
33. Historic Black College University initiative
34. Women In Entrepreneurship Act
35. Created an office for illegal immigrant crime victims
36. Reversed Dodd-Frank
37. Repealed DOT ruling which would have taken power away from local governments for infrastructure planning
38. Order to stop crime against law enforcement
39. End of DAPA program
40. Stopped companies from moving out of America
41. Promoted businesses to create American Jobs
42. Encouraged country to once again – 'Buy American and hire American'
43. Cutting regulations – 2 for every one created
45. Review of all trade agreements to make sure they are America first
46. Apprentice program
47. Highest manufacturing surge in 3 years
48. $78 Billion promised reinvestment from major businesses like Exxon, Bayer, Apple, SoftBank, Toyota
49. Denied FBI a new building
50. $700 million saved with F-35 renegotiation
51. Saves $22 million by reducing white house payroll
52. Dept of Treasury reports a $182 billion surplus for April 2017 (2nd largest in history)
53. Negotiated the release of 6 US humanitarian workers held captive in Egypt
54. Gas prices lowest in more than 12 years
55. Signed An Executive Order To Promote Energy Independence and Economic Growth
56. Has already accomplished more to stop government interference into people's lives than any President in the history of America
57. President Trump has worked with Congress to pass more legislation in his first 100 days than any President since Truman
58. Has given head executive of each branches 6 month time frame, dated March 15, 2017, to trim the fat, restructure and improve efficiency of their branch. (Observe the push-back the leaks the lies as entrenched POWER refuses to go silently into that good night!)
59. Last, refused his Presidential pay check. Donated it to Veterans issues
60. CUT TAXES > Americans can now keep much more money of their paycheck

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 23, 2018, 12:33:28 PM
Okay,
This is just a copy n paste job.....I haven't fact checked, but I am posting them here anyway...because I'm sure it will get ripped apart by the haters.


I'm tired of people claiming Trump isn't working hard or keeping his promises.....Most of them are undeniable....Some of them, I'm sure you dislike, but they were promises he made to his voters.


Here is a list that is longer than I think any of the past three POTUS's has accomplished....


1. Supreme Court Judge Gorsuch
2. Made friends with World leaders.[/color][/size]
3. He took us out of TPP
4. Illegal immigration is now down 70%( the lowest in 17 years)
5. Consumer confidence highest since 2000 at index 125.6
6. Mortgage applications for new homes rise to a seven year high
7. Arranged from 7% to 24% Tariff on lumber from Canada
8. Bids for border wall are well underway
9. Pulled out of the lopsided Paris accord
10. Keystone pipeline approved
11. NATO allies boost spending by 4.3%
12. Allowing VA to terminate bad employees
13. Allowing private healthcare choices for veterans
14. More than 2,000,000. Jobs created
15. Median household income at a 7 year high
16. The Stock Market is at the highest ever in its history
17. China agreed to American import of beef
18. $89 Billion saved in regulation rollbacks
19. Rollback of A Regulation to boost coal mining
20. MOAB for ISIS
21. Travel ban reinstated
22. Executive order for religious freedom
23. Jump started NASA
24. $600 million cut from UN peacekeeping budget
25. Targeting of MS13 gangs
26. Deporting violent illegal immigrants
27. Signed 41 bills to date
28. Created a commission on child trafficking
29. Created a commission on voter fraud
30. Created a commission for opioids addiction
31. Giving power to states to drug test unemployment recipients
32. Unemployment lowest since May 2007
33. Historic Black College University initiative
34. Women In Entrepreneurship Act
35. Created an office for illegal immigrant crime victims
36. Reversed Dodd-Frank
37. Repealed DOT ruling which would have taken power away from local governments for infrastructure planning
38. Order to stop crime against law enforcement
39. End of DAPA program
40. Stopped companies from moving out of America
41. Promoted businesses to create American Jobs
42. Encouraged country to once again – 'Buy American and hire American'
43. Cutting regulations – 2 for every one created
45. Review of all trade agreements to make sure they are America first
46. Apprentice program
47. Highest manufacturing surge in 3 years
48. $78 Billion promised reinvestment from major businesses like Exxon, Bayer, Apple, SoftBank, Toyota
49. Denied FBI a new building
50. $700 million saved with F-35 renegotiation
51. Saves $22 million by reducing white house payroll
52. Dept of Treasury reports a $182 billion surplus for April 2017 (2nd largest in history)
53. Negotiated the release of 6 US humanitarian workers held captive in Egypt
54. Gas prices lowest in more than 12 years
55. Signed An Executive Order To Promote Energy Independence and Economic Growth
56. Has already accomplished more to stop government interference into people's lives than any President in the history of America
57. President Trump has worked with Congress to pass more legislation in his first 100 days than any President since Truman
58. Has given head executive of each branches 6 month time frame, dated March 15, 2017, to trim the fat, restructure and improve efficiency of their branch. (Observe the push-back the leaks the lies as entrenched POWER refuses to go silently into that good night!)
59. Last, refused his Presidential pay check. Donated it to Veterans issues
60. CUT TAXES > Americans can now keep much more money of their paycheck

Quote from: Palehorse on January 23, 2018, 11:58:15 PM
Seriously? You're going to spam the forum with this tripe?

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 24, 2018, 10:22:35 AM
There IS NOTHING misleading or demonstrably false...it isn't spam or tripe...

Quote from: Exterminator on January 24, 2018, 10:58:49 AM
Bullshit.  Many of the things you give Trump credit for are nothing more than the economy continuing to follow the trends it had been for the 7 years prior to his taking office.  He added fewer jobs in 2017 than were added in 2016, 2015, 2014 and 2013 and the stock market grew by a smaller percentage during his first year than in the same time period in Obama's first year - FACT!

He has ceded America's leadership role in the world and most countries and their citizens have lost considerable faith in the U.S. - FACT

Pulling out of trade agreements, climate accords, etc. are NOT positive developments whatsoever and they were done with executive orders, NOT legislation.

Oh, and he's also a fucking traitor.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 24, 2018, 11:02:01 AM
You lost;get over it

   
• The enhanced compensation is worth of more than $250 million, the company said.

   
• Starbucks is known for giving its workers more generous pay and benefits than other mass-market restaurants and retailers.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 24, 2018, 12:18:47 PM
Starbucks to boost worker pay (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/24/starbucks-to-boost-pay-and-benefits-after-us-lowers-corporate-taxes.html) and benefits after US lowers corporate taxes


Starbucks will give domestic employees pay raises, company stock, and expanded benefits.

   
• The enhanced compensation is worth of more than $250 million, the company said.

   
• Starbucks is known for giving its workers more generous pay and benefits than other mass-market restaurants and retailers.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 24, 2018, 10:56:00 AM
Bullshit....

Quote from: Palehorse on January 25, 2018, 12:54:26 AM
That you do not see the hypocrisy in it is disturbing, but not surprising. . .

A wall won't stop shit. They will just go under, around it, or enter via the north. It is a waste of taxpayer dollars for something that is at best a panacea. And hypocritical.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 25, 2018, 09:46:41 AM
Can you please point on my hypocrisy?

It isn't JUST the wall that Trump is implementing.  It will also include technology, personnel and readiness....a border that will keep us safe and secure...at least incredibly more so than what we currently have.

We currently do not have a problem on the North. If it becomes a problem then we should deal with it accordingly.

I'm not sure why you are so opposed to keeping our borders secured?  We know for a fact that it currently is allowing drugs and cartel to come in.  We know for a FACT that illegals have come across and killed innocent Americans.  It puzzles me as to why liberals are so strongly opposed to this.

Quote from: Palehorse on January 25, 2018, 10:48:35 AM
I am not opposed to keeping our borders secure. I am vehemently opposed to spending taxpayer money on a panacea that represents separatist intention.

Human beings are just like any animal , they will take the easiest of the available options in order to achieve their goals. Not always the best or most effective option. . .   The wall is stupidity. . .

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 25, 2018, 01:51:56 PM
Do you realize there are 65 countries that have either completed a wall/fence or have one under construction?  China, Costa Rico, Russia, Trukey, Hungary, Serbia, Croatia, South Africa, India, Egypt, Israel, Ireland, Spain to just name a few.....

Unfortunately, Mexico and their many ( not all ) of their citizens have taken advantage of our good nature.  Some for drugs and criminal activities.  Some to simply try to get a better life!  And the GOP is great with that........BUT, we have laws for this to happen.  Many have ignored it and want a free pass, while many have tried to come in the proper way.  Why should the one's who choose to break our laws get a pass over the one's who tried to do it the correct way?

Bill Clinton once upon a time understood this along with many democrats.  Something changed, and now it is "BAD" to want to enforce immigration control....and to many common sense thinkers, a wall with proper technology is a great start.


BTW, how am I being a hypocrite?

Quote from: The Troll on January 25, 2018, 03:34:37 PM


  Other countries have walls!!!!?  Well, other countries have health care for all and we don't.  :doh:  So what?   :rolleyes:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 25, 2018, 03:49:10 PM
Well, with this Trump Economy on the verge of booming......I bet our HC will not be an issue as it once was.  We have the right people in there now, that truly cares for people and not just wanting to buy their votes.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 25, 2018, 01:51:56 PM
Do you realize there are 65 countries that have either completed a wall/fence or have one under construction?  China, Costa Rico, Russia, Trukey, Hungary, Serbia, Croatia, South Africa, India, Egypt, Israel, Ireland, Spain to just name a few.....

Unfortunately, Mexico and their many ( not all ) of their citizens have taken advantage of our good nature.  Some for drugs and criminal activities.  Some to simply try to get a better life!  And the GOP is great with that........BUT, we have laws for this to happen.  Many have ignored it and want a free pass, while many have tried to come in the proper way.  Why should the one's who choose to break our laws get a pass over the one's who tried to do it the correct way?

Bill Clinton once upon a time understood this along with many democrats.  Something changed, and now it is "BAD" to want to enforce immigration control....and to many common sense thinkers, a wall with proper technology is a great start.


BTW, how am I being a hypocrite?

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 23, 2018, 12:33:28 PM
Okay,
This is just a copy n paste job.....I haven't fact checked, but I am posting them here anyway...because I'm sure it will get ripped apart by the haters.


I'm tired of people claiming Trump isn't working hard or keeping his promises.....Most of them are undeniable....Some of them, I'm sure you dislike, but they were promises he made to his voters.


Here is a list that is longer than I think any of the past three POTUS's has accomplished....


1. Supreme Court Judge Gorsuch
2. Made friends with World leaders.[/color][/size]
3. He took us out of TPP
4. Illegal immigration is now down 70%( the lowest in 17 years)
5. Consumer confidence highest since 2000 at index 125.6
6. Mortgage applications for new homes rise to a seven year high
7. Arranged from 7% to 24% Tariff on lumber from Canada
8. Bids for border wall are well underway
9. Pulled out of the lopsided Paris accord
10. Keystone pipeline approved
11. NATO allies boost spending by 4.3%
12. Allowing VA to terminate bad employees
13. Allowing private healthcare choices for veterans
14. More than 2,000,000. Jobs created
15. Median household income at a 7 year high
16. The Stock Market is at the highest ever in its history
17. China agreed to American import of beef
18. $89 Billion saved in regulation rollbacks
19. Rollback of A Regulation to boost coal mining
20. MOAB for ISIS
21. Travel ban reinstated
22. Executive order for religious freedom
23. Jump started NASA
24. $600 million cut from UN peacekeeping budget
25. Targeting of MS13 gangs
26. Deporting violent illegal immigrants
27. Signed 41 bills to date
28. Created a commission on child trafficking
29. Created a commission on voter fraud
30. Created a commission for opioids addiction
31. Giving power to states to drug test unemployment recipients
32. Unemployment lowest since May 2007
33. Historic Black College University initiative
34. Women In Entrepreneurship Act
35. Created an office for illegal immigrant crime victims
36. Reversed Dodd-Frank
37. Repealed DOT ruling which would have taken power away from local governments for infrastructure planning
38. Order to stop crime against law enforcement
39. End of DAPA program
40. Stopped companies from moving out of America
41. Promoted businesses to create American Jobs
42. Encouraged country to once again – 'Buy American and hire American'
43. Cutting regulations – 2 for every one created
45. Review of all trade agreements to make sure they are America first
46. Apprentice program
47. Highest manufacturing surge in 3 years
48. $78 Billion promised reinvestment from major businesses like Exxon, Bayer, Apple, SoftBank, Toyota
49. Denied FBI a new building
50. $700 million saved with F-35 renegotiation
51. Saves $22 million by reducing white house payroll
52. Dept of Treasury reports a $182 billion surplus for April 2017 (2nd largest in history)
53. Negotiated the release of 6 US humanitarian workers held captive in Egypt
54. Gas prices lowest in more than 12 years
55. Signed An Executive Order To Promote Energy Independence and Economic Growth
56. Has already accomplished more to stop government interference into people's lives than any President in the history of America
57. President Trump has worked with Congress to pass more legislation in his first 100 days than any President since Truman
58. Has given head executive of each branches 6 month time frame, dated March 15, 2017, to trim the fat, restructure and improve efficiency of their branch. (Observe the push-back the leaks the lies as entrenched POWER refuses to go silently into that good night!)
59. Last, refused his Presidential pay check. Donated it to Veterans issues
60. CUT TAXES > Americans can now keep much more money of their paycheck

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 25, 2018, 09:46:41 AM
We know for a fact that it currently is allowing drugs and cartel to come in.

Quote from: Exterminator on January 26, 2018, 07:49:34 AM
You, like your idol, Trump, keep harping on this drug issue as an excuse for this ill-conceived wall and are completely off base.  Most of the drugs entering the country arrive in trucks or on container ships, not by people carrying them on foot over the border.  As such, a wall will make no difference whatsoever. 

Does it not bother you in the least that the onus for the cost of this wall falls on the American taxpayers rather than Mexico, who Trump claimed would pay for it?  Of course, he also said it would cost $10 billion while those who understood the complexity of such an undertaking putting the price tag much higher.  They were apparently correct.  Wouldn't that money be better spent on our crumbling infrastructure?

Quote from: The Troll on January 26, 2018, 11:13:03 AM

  One accomplishment that Trump didn't get, was?  It was to fire Muller.  He didn't get it done because all of his White House lawyers was going to quit.  :haha:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 25, 2018, 03:49:10 PM
Well, with this Trump Economy on the verge of booming...

Quote from: Exterminator on January 26, 2018, 11:57:27 AM
Missed the 3% GDP growth he assured everyone he could deliver.

Quote from: libby on January 23, 2018, 11:17:53 PM
I'd like to add one more Trump accomplishment: granted it happened before the election, but: what a man!  ;)

61. Had an affair with porn actress Stormy Daniels in 2006, "only months after Trump's wife, Melania, had given birth to their son, Barron. "

Source: Style section, Washington Post, January 18, 2018.

Quote from: libby on January 29, 2018, 12:07:37 PM
Rumor here in the D.C. metro area is that Melania has been staying at a local hotel (not the Trump one).   

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 29, 2018, 01:11:33 PM
Are these from the same rumor folks who claim that Obama is gay?

Quote from: libby on January 30, 2018, 12:09:26 AM
:rolleyes: Good try.

Quote from: The Troll on January 30, 2018, 11:46:30 AM


OOOOOOOOOH Henry, Trump's  :hogslop: stock market is down 250 points down!!!!!!! :turk:

Quote from: The Troll on January 30, 2018, 06:34:48 PM

Hey Bird Brain, stock market down to 530 this afternoon.   :wink: :turk:

Quote from: The Troll on January 30, 2018, 02:37:30 PM


  I won't be watching Trump speech   :liar2:  I can't stand all of the lies, so called records and all of the bullshit.  It would be a better speech if he did it from the toilet. :spot:

Quote from: libby on February 01, 2018, 12:25:00 AM
Hmmm... Seems like someone else agreed with you: Donald and Melania Trump asked the Guggenheim Museum to loan them a famous Van Gogh painting to display in their living quarters. The Curator said no, but she could recommend something else: a 14 carat gold toilet.  :wink:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 30, 2018, 12:42:33 PM
When (in the past) the current President was a Democrat, the State of the Union address was promoted by the media as a 'must-watch' event....but when the current President is a Republican (and especially President Trump)....the liberal media pundits spitefully advise watching something more intellectually satisfying, like the latest episode of Winnie the Pooh.

What this tells me is this.........that they are in full panic mode!....because this has been a stunningly successful year despite all the roadblocks tossed in Trump's path from the political establishment, including treacherous Republicans like Flake, McCain, and Lindsey Graham.

I'll watch it just to see the establishment squirm. :yes:

Quote from: Palehorse on February 06, 2018, 12:19:09 AM
Funny how the Raging Cheeto was all about claiming credit for the 7000 point run but not Friday and today's losses. Hypocrite, with an extreme god complex and narcissistic disease. 😡😡😡

Quote from: me on February 06, 2018, 04:02:09 PM
That's the way Obama did things, claimed credit for the good and ignored the bad.

Quote from: Locutus on February 07, 2018, 01:02:11 PM
...and he still wants to talk to Mueller, against the advice of his own lawyers.  That shows me he's truly a dumbass, or living in his own alternate reality.  The way he plays loose with facts (euphemism for downright lying), he may very well be setting himself up for charges.  It is, after all, against the law to lie to the FBI. 

Quote from: Locutus on February 07, 2018, 09:51:00 AM
Looks like he's about to accomplish an expensive military parade.  :rolleyes:

Quote from: Anne on February 08, 2018, 12:33:13 AM
I don't think that is such a bad thing. Have it on Memorial Day or Veterans Day. Show a little public support of the military.

Quote from: Anne on February 08, 2018, 12:33:13 AM
I don't think that is such a bad thing. Have it on Memorial Day or Veterans Day. Show a little public support of the military.

Quote from: Exterminator on February 08, 2018, 08:09:28 AM
Sure, why not spend tens of millions of dollars in taxpayer money for nothing?  I'll defer to someone with actual military experience. (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/6/lt-gen-mark-hertling-says-trump-parade-not-culture/?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS)

Quote from: Anne on February 09, 2018, 08:04:36 PM
I thought you had military experience. We have military parades before and we have parades for a lot of things. St. Patrick's Day, some Polish guy who fought in the revolutionary War, Fourth of July, and Christmas to name a few. If I thought they would actually use the money that word be spent on a parade for vets or current personnel then sure do that. But you know they won't.

Quote from: Anne on February 09, 2018, 08:04:36 PM
I thought you had military experience. We have military parades before and we have parades for a lot of things. St. Patrick's Day, some Polish guy who fought in the revolutionary War, Fourth of July, and Christmas to name a few. If I thought they would actually use the money that word be spent on a parade for vets or current personnel then sure do that. But you know they won't.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 13, 2018, 10:25:04 AM
I find it rather amusing just how many heads exploded by Trump merely MENTIONING a possibility of a Military Parade to Honor our Military.


I swear, it he found a cure for cancer, many liberals would find something negative and whine like there was no tomorrow... :rolleyes:

Quote from: Palehorse on February 13, 2018, 10:40:09 AM
I find it ironic that those who previously held the least amongst this nation hostage to further their political ideals surrounding spending cuts, now are willing to spend billions upon frivolous displays of Sabre rattling. . .

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 13, 2018, 10:25:04 AM
I find it rather amusing just how many heads exploded by Trump merely MENTIONING a possibility of a Military Parade to Honor our Military.

Quote from: Exterminator on February 13, 2018, 12:12:06 PM
This has nothing to do with honoring our military at all.  Read the article I posted a link to.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 13, 2018, 10:25:04 AM
I find it rather amusing just how many heads exploded by Trump merely MENTIONING a possibility of a Military Parade to Honor our Military.


I swear, it he found a cure for cancer, many liberals would find something negative and whine like there was no tomorrow... :rolleyes:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 13, 2018, 12:57:43 PM
I think there is too much over thinking going on.  I simply believe, Trump, in his typical, overzealous fashion, wants to pay a tribute to our Military.  Right or wrong, and I can see both sides of this argument.

Do we really need it?
Do we need to spend more tax payer dollars on something that isn't going to give us a return?

I think we certainly, without a doubt, waste an unbelievable amount of money on frivolous accounts....is paying a tribute to our Military wasteful, considering the numerous other infractions we do on a daily basis?


I like the idea of it, but not sure if we need it....


But, I certainly don't believe to be anything bad.

Quote from: libby on February 14, 2018, 04:47:49 PM
 
Wouldn't it be something if he had his parade and then got impeached?

The best thing Trump  could do for himself and the country and the military is to get rid of family, friends, and  high level military officers in the White House, and replace them with some military noncoms and/or career federal government workers. (Oh, I forgot, he fired or forced out most of the career civilians.) It may be too late for him, though, because probably his worst mistake was to insult the FBI.     

:rolleyes:

Quote from: libby on February 14, 2018, 04:47:49 PM
 
Wouldn't it be something if he had his parade and then got impeached?

The best thing Trump  could do for himself and the country and the military is to get rid of family, friends, and  high level military officers in the White House, and replace them with some military noncoms and/or career federal government workers. (Oh, I forgot, he fired or forced out most of the career civilians.) It may be too late for him, though, because probably his worst mistake was to insult the FBI.     

:rolleyes:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 15, 2018, 09:20:04 AM
He didn't insult the FBI....only a few of the top dogs that proven to be as crooked as a dogs hind leg...I have seen plenty of interviews by FBI agents who are concerned at the leadership at the top.

BTW, he isn't going to be impeached...keep dreamin.

I still think a parade isn't a BAD THING, just to those of you who are so full of hatred at this POTUS, you look for anything to turn something good to bad. That's the way I clearly see it.

Quote from: libby on February 15, 2018, 10:52:16 AMRevision of above post:
Uh, if I were you, I'd be a little more careful about statements like the above about the FBI. To put it simply, they investigate. I speak from personal experience: When I decided to leave my job in the medical field to take a job with the feds, I found out that it required a top secret security clearance. It began with a long interview and a lot of personal questions, including names of people (not relatives) who could vouch for me -- beginning where I grew up. I gave them two: one a friend I'd known since grade school, and  two, a friend I'd known for a long time: the former a nurse, the latter a lawyer. They both let me know they had been contacted. (I got the job.)  :smile:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 23, 2018, 03:25:26 PM
The Rasmussen Daily Presidential Tracking Poll approval number has Trump now at 50%......50% of likely U.S. voters approve of his job performance ...This is Trump's highest job approval rating since mid-June last year.






This is five points higher than where Barack Obama was on the same day or during the same week in his presidency. And you're not going to hear that reported by anyone one what I call the MSM.  Won't happen. But it's true...and his numbers are going to continue to climb... :yes: ;)

Quote from: The Troll on February 25, 2018, 12:02:09 PM
CNN's poll says Trump's poll rating is 35%.  :haha:  Troll's rating says Trump is the worst president in America's history.

Quote from: Exterminator on February 26, 2018, 08:38:04 AM
Yes, but they'll claim it's fake news because it doesn't fit their narrative...even while they quote Rasmussen which has a demonstrable bias.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 26, 2018, 11:34:34 AM
Yeah, CNN and the other polls were spot on during this last election, weren't they?  You guys are the one's who TRY to make the news fit YOUR narrative...and it has bit you in the ass BIG TIME.... ;D

Quote from: Exterminator on February 26, 2018, 12:57:08 PM
Actually, just before the election they showed a fairly close race with Hillary having a slight lead and that's exactly how the popular vote played out.

Quote from: Locutus on March 05, 2018, 05:50:07 PM
More parts of the dossier are being corroborated.   :wink:

Quote from: libby on March 06, 2018, 12:00:27 AM
Sooner than expected, it seems. I thought about staying up later to watch more of what has been going on with one poor soul -- can't remember his name -- who has apparently been subpoenaed by Mueller.

I was dozing in front of the TV when something woke me up and there he was, looking high and nervous, talking to a reporter. Caused quite a stir. He apparently said he was not going to testify, then  :eek: :confused: It was painful to watch.

Have to get up by 6 tomorrow morning to watch Morning Joe and find out what's going on.  :eek:

Quote from: Exterminator on March 08, 2018, 08:09:45 AM
It sure is getting stormy in Trump's world.  :biggrin:

Quote from: Palehorse on March 08, 2018, 10:37:43 AM
:yes: :biggrin:

Quote from: libby on March 08, 2018, 06:07:35 PM
"Hell hath no fury ..." Poor Trump.  :wink: :wacko: Caught between his wife and Stormy while his children and the rest of the world watch :eek:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 09, 2018, 10:46:50 AM
I am actually going to make you guys puke........because, with all sincerity, I am, 100% proud of this POTUS!!!  He is accomplishing many of his promised tasks, in a little over a year.  He now has rocket man, ready to back down....He has our economy booming....He is re-negotiating trade deals....He has ISIS collapsing....He moved Israel Embassy to Jerusalem...He has reformed our Taxes...He is draining the swamp...

I know, that I now get roughly an additional $300 more a month between my wife and I due to his tax cuts.  I will see more dollars as I file next year.  My 401K is flourishing!..The company I work for is beginning to boom with so much work, we are hiring and being very profitable on our projects.  That in return, will give me more dollars in my profit sharing and bonus.


THESE thing would not have happened under Hillary....it flat out wouldn't have happened.  I would suspect, I would be paying MORE taxes and we would have a very weak economy, moving at a snails pace.


BTW, he is working hard for DACA, but crickets by the democrats....


I can care less about this "stormy" deal...(even if it is true or not) it has NO impact on his accomplishments for America and my family.  It is just MORE sour grapes by the media and the loser liberals, who STILL can't deal with the fact that AMERICA VOTED HIM AS OUR POTUS....Fair and square.  :yes:

I'm happy and excited about our future!

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 09, 2018, 10:46:50 AM
I know, that I now get roughly an additional $300 more a month between my wife and I due to his tax cuts.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 05, 2018, 04:35:31 PM
The number of people getting unemployment benefits has fallen to a 44-year low....It's a stunning turnaround from the Obama years...also private payrolls grew by 241,000 in March versus 205,000 which were estimated.


No mater HOW you slice it.....it is GOOD NEWS and it is because of Trump and his policies.  PERIOD.   :yes:   There is even better news.....more of this is to come!!  ;)

Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 06, 2018, 08:48:03 PM
. . .

I'm ecstatic about our future!

Quote from: Palehorse on April 10, 2018, 10:23:02 AM
So am I. Each day brings us a step closer to the impeachment of the Raging Cheeto. . .

Detail what you consider "good pay" and "good jobs". . .

Quote from: Exterminator on April 10, 2018, 12:55:52 PM
Trump and his allies seem to be creating a lot of work for attorneys.  THOSE are GOOD JOBS at GOOD PAY!  :biggrin:

Quote from: Exterminator on April 10, 2018, 12:55:52 PM
Trump and his allies seem to be creating a lot of work for attorneys.  THOSE are GOOD JOBS at GOOD PAY!  :biggrin:

Quote from: Palehorse on April 11, 2018, 11:25:35 AM
Telling this nations enemies that they are going to be attacked with tactical missiles beforehand, on social media, is such an idiotic move. . .  :mad:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 10, 2018, 02:12:56 PM
rimshot!  :razz:

Quote from: Exterminator on April 11, 2018, 03:37:43 PM
I'll just leave this right here. (https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/04/11/trump-tweet-breaks-promise-to-keep-military-plans-secret-berman-nr-sot.cnn)   :biggrin:

Quote from: Locutus on April 12, 2018, 02:25:41 PM
Scott Pruitt is a piece of shit.  That is all.

Quote from: The Troll on April 25, 2018, 03:18:58 PM


  Insiders say that she going to divorce Trump after he is out of office and pick his bones clean..      :bliss: :koolaid:

Quote from: The Troll on April 26, 2018, 11:36:15 AM

 
This morning Trump came on the TV.  So I turned over to the Three Stooges.  They make more sense than the Orange Squash.   :rant:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 27, 2018, 11:42:11 AM
Just to name a few


Food Stamp Usage Drops Half Million in Single Month

Nominates First Woman for Head of CIA

Food Stamp Usage Drops Half Million in Single Month

Highest Ever Manufacturer Optimism over 94 Percent

Unemployment claims have fallen to a 45-year low

U.S. Consumer Confidence Is at 17-Year High

Economy to grow at 5.4% rate in first quarter

US homebuilding permits soar to highest level since 2007

Wages jump to highest level since 2009 - up 2.9%

Black unemployment rate falls to record low

Adds 184,000 manufacturing jobs and continues growth trend

Mining up 28.6% - Leads the Nation in Growth

Quote from: The Troll on April 28, 2018, 05:55:14 PM


  Keep believing it Bird Boy.  We will see how popular he is in 2018.  :haha: :haha:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 30, 2018, 02:27:14 PM
What's not to believe? They are all facts.

The democrat party is self destructing Ol buddy....

People vote with their wallets...and it is looking up right now.  Even Kanya is realizing that Trump is helping the Black Community more than obama EVER thought about doing. :haha: :haha:

Quote from: The Troll on April 30, 2018, 05:01:22 PM
  You're so blind and so stupid, you can't see the woods for the trees.   :wink: :smile:

Quote from: Locutus on May 01, 2018, 05:34:08 PM
It's important for people who are opposed to this kind of ongoing crap from this administration to get out and vote in November -- in LARGE numbers.

Quote from: libby on May 01, 2018, 07:53:40 PM
  :yes: For the first time in my life I have been thinking of maybe doing some volunteer work for the Democrats.

Quote from: Locutus on May 01, 2018, 03:31:01 PM
Trump has also accomplished speaking more untrue or misleading statements, and telling outright lies.  He surpassed 3,000 of them during his time in office so far.  That's 6.5 times every single day.   :rolleyes:

Quote from: libby on May 01, 2018, 07:53:40 PM
  :yes: For the first time in my life I have been thinking of maybe doing some volunteer work for the Democrats. 

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 02, 2018, 07:52:08 AM
Tax Cuts! Done.

QuoteEconomy rolling! Done.

QuoteImmigration Reform! Getting done.

QuoteStronger Military! Done.

QuoteHealthcare!  Well it got screwed up the last several years......I think, in time, it will be done!

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 02, 2018, 07:47:26 AM
You actually are concerned about lying?  After Obama?  That is so f'ing funny.

Quote from: Exterminator on May 02, 2018, 09:46:55 AM
You can't fucking be serious.  :rolleyes:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 02, 2018, 10:49:21 AM
Trump says stupid shit that doesn't mean a hill of beans...Obama TOLD the American people that YOU can KEEP you your HC plan, you can KEEP your doctor, knowing damn well that it was a lie, just so he could pass the bill. 

Big Big difference....

Like I said, watch the Actions, not the words.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 02, 2018, 10:49:21 AM
Trump says stupid shit that doesn't mean a hill of beans...

QuoteObama TOLD the American people that YOU can KEEP you your HC plan, you can KEEP your doctor...

Quote from: Exterminator on May 02, 2018, 01:13:05 PM
I still have the same HC plan and the same doctor.  You?

Quote from: libby on May 02, 2018, 11:13:49 AM
MSNBC 

Quote from: The Troll on May 02, 2018, 03:43:15 PM


   Can you believe it, can you believe it.  Donald Trump is hiring the same lawyer the Bill Clinton had to defend him in his impeachment trial.  :haha: :haha:

  Sounds like the Orange Carrot is thinking he just might be impeached.  :haha:  :haha:

  Of course this will happen after 2018 when the Democrats take over congress.   :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 02, 2018, 10:49:21 AM
Trump says stupid shit that doesn't mean a hill of beans...Obama TOLD the American people that YOU can KEEP you your HC plan, you can KEEP your doctor, knowing damn well that it was a lie, just so he could pass the bill. 

Big Big difference....

Like I said, watch the Actions, not the words.

Quote from: Locutus on May 03, 2018, 08:02:19 AM
There's absolutely NO comparison between Obama and Trump, the latter of which lies more times a day than you go to the bathroom; and does it purposefully.  :rolleyes:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 02, 2018, 04:38:37 PM
Troll, all I can say is .... keep on laughing.......you got your ass bit the last election.....and if I wasn't so kind, you would minus a C-Note.

Every time you guys seem to think you got something on Trump, he comes out like a rose.

Quote from: Exterminator on May 03, 2018, 10:23:26 AM
Just in the past 24 hours we've learned that he lied about his health claims made during the campaign and about the entire Stormy Daniels ordeal.  This goes far beyond simply saying stupid shit.

Quote from: The Troll on May 03, 2018, 11:44:05 AM

  You might have got a C-Note over that, but when I said that Benghazi would end up being nothing.  I would have made a $100.  I would would have won more if you would bet.  :haha:  :haha:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 03, 2018, 11:47:50 AM
yes it is stupid shit......it's he said, she said bullshit.  Just because MSNBC says that Dr. so and so now says that Trump did this or that........it is more "FAKE NEWS" bullshit.....No truth, just hearsay, and they report it as news.  The Truth doesn't matter anymore to news agencies.....funny how you guys claim that Trump lies, but never hear you say that CNN lies or MSNBC lies........when they have been proven to lie many times.

QuoteIt's all stupid shit....Stromy Daniels.......NO BODY CARES!

QuoteWhat I do care about is getting things done....Economy in particular.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 03, 2018, 11:49:25 AM
Benghazi is only nothing because our fine media refuses to report the truth.....listen to the men who were there and ask them if it was nothing.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 03, 2018, 12:52:25 PM
Funny how you didn't bitch at Obama when we at one time were paying $4 a gallon.....four years ago today, Gas was $3.70 per gallon. 

Quote from: Locutus on May 03, 2018, 02:22:14 PM
Also to blame are your Republican congressional heros who saw fit to lift a more than four-decade old ban on U.S. oil exports. 

You Republican supporters always manage to vote against your own economic best interests, and do it repeatedly.  Problem is, you take the rest of us right along with you.

Quote from: Exterminator on May 03, 2018, 01:31:18 PM
Funny, the Deputy Assistant Inspector General for Investigations who overseas worldwide investigations for the U.S. Department of State (my brother) and was directly involved in this investigation doesn't share your view of the facts.  He might be a little closer to it than you are...yesterday when Pompeo was sworn in?  He was in the room.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 03, 2018, 02:55:18 PM
First of all I doubt he knows more than I do on this!! are you serious?

okay, just kiddin!!...Pretty cool about your brother!!  Tell him he needs to watch the movie! Maybe he will understand more!!!  (again...just jokin!)

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 03, 2018, 02:55:18 PM
Pretty cool about your brother!!

Quote from: libby on May 03, 2018, 03:12:33 PM
Hank, wonder what you have to say about the following. It's an account of another stunningly egregious "accomplishment" of your hero Trump.

Remember hearing about his doctor's letter regarding  his remarkable good health? Well, it was in the news again a day or so ago, after Trump's people raided (yes, raided) his office and took his medical history files.

Funny thing is, this time the doctor was later recorded/filmed saying that Trump dictated the letter that he signed that attested to his remarkable good health. You really should see it: the doctor mumbles something about it all being a kind of dark humor at the time. But now he's mad because he's under scrutiny (medical ethics). 

Quote from: Exterminator on May 03, 2018, 03:27:04 PM
When Tillerson got ousted, I was joking with him about having to train someone all over again (SES are the people who essentially teach appointees about their new jobs).  I told him that at least they had something to talk about to break the ice...Pompeo and my brother both worked at Baskin-Robbins when they were teenagers.  :biggrin:

Quote from: Exterminator on May 03, 2018, 01:31:18 PM
Funny, the Deputy Assistant Inspector General for Investigations who overseas worldwide investigations for the U.S. Department of State (my brother) and was directly involved in this investigation doesn't share your view of the facts.  He might be a little closer to it than you are...yesterday when Pompeo was sworn in?  He was in the room.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 03, 2018, 03:53:38 PM
Just for shits and giggles I googled Pompeo......and found this quote from him during his cofirmation hearing "When I was a teenager, I was an employee of the month at Baskin-Robbins not once but twice. I'm a movie buff. I have a soft spot for my golden retrievers."

:biggrin:

Quote from: The Troll on May 03, 2018, 07:23:52 PM

  Hey Bird Boy, I got question for you.  Would you let your company and you sign off on it, do a job that costs a million dollars on credit for Donald Trump.  After all of the bankruptcies, cheat contractors out of their products and labor,  committing fraud, committing adultery.  Then he lies every day, cohorts with the enemy Russia, pays off porn stars about having sex with her.  He is so dishonest that he can't borrow money from an American bank and has to go overseas to get the money, most likely Russia.

  Well Birdie, would you do it,   :confused: :wink: :smile:

Quote from: The Troll on May 04, 2018, 04:07:23 PM
  OK Bird Boy, where is your answer, cat   :meow: got you tongue :lipsrsealed2:  Or if you said yes, you would be lying.  Lets hear your bullshit, Henry.  :haha:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 04, 2018, 04:50:50 PM
This is such an moronic question, I feel stupid in answering it, but HELL YES, I would be more than excited to do any work for Trump. PERIOD.  And so would 99% of any business in America.


You need go take a nap or maybe change your depends.




BTW....


The unemployment hit 3.9% in April, the lowest since the 60's, while black and Hispanic unemployment rates hit an all-time low! President Trump's approval rating is up to 51%, according to Rasmussen, rated the most accurate pollster.

Things are looking up!!!

Quote from: The Troll on May 05, 2018, 12:06:42 PM

  Well, you just proved you are a moron.  Pale Horse, would you sign off on a million dollar contract for your company where time and product was use.  And do it for Trump and do in on credit.  Our Zone moron said he would do it in a minute.   I sure wouldn't want the Hawk working for me or our country on trade deals. 
                                                                         :zoners:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 04, 2018, 04:50:50 PM
The unemployment hit 3.9% in April, the lowest under a Republican administration since the 60's...

Quote from: Exterminator on May 07, 2018, 08:09:05 AM
Fixed this for you.  It was 3.8% under Clinton in 2000.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 07, 2018, 09:51:09 AM
Thanks to Newt and his contract with America.........(I HAD too say that  :razz: )

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 07, 2018, 09:51:09 AM
Thanks to Newt and his contract with America.........(I HAD too say that  :razz: )

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 07, 2018, 09:51:09 AM
Thanks to Newt and his contract with  on America.........(I HAD too say that  :razz: )

Quote from: Locutus on May 17, 2018, 07:47:45 PM
November 2018 

:wink:

Quote from: Palehorse on May 20, 2018, 06:04:02 PM
This "wonderful" tax break that was supposed to generate expansion and jobs, has thus far done nothing more than generate a 178 billion dollar stock buyback program from the companies enjoying the tax holiday; shedding light on the "bonus" programs and their true intentions.  :mad:

Quote from: The Troll on May 21, 2018, 11:40:06 AM

   
  What is the odds of CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC, having 100% fake news about Trump  :pigdance: and his swamp monsters.   :wink: :biggrin:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 21, 2018, 01:03:56 PM
....but I'm telling you.....hold on tight, it is going to get real interesting...very soon.

Quote from: Exterminator on May 22, 2018, 08:06:16 AM
You've got that right but not in the way you're thinking.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 22, 2018, 08:38:12 AM
Ex, honestly, I may shock you, but I know you are a very intelligent and a well-spoken individual.  Though you and I disagree politically, I do absorb your thoughts and take them to heart, more than you may ever believe....I am telling you that you are very, very wrong in this case.  The democrat house of cards in about to fall.  I think many republicans will fall too... but it IS going to fall and the truth will be presented.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 22, 2018, 08:38:12 AM
Ex, honestly, I may shock you, but I know you are a very intelligent and a well-spoken individual.  Though you and I disagree politically, I do absorb your thoughts and take them to heart, more than you may ever believe....I am telling you that you are very, very wrong in this case.  The democrat house of cards in about to fall.  I think many republicans will fall too... but it IS going to fall and the truth will be presented.

Quote from: Exterminator on May 23, 2018, 01:16:03 PM
We'll see but ask yourself this very simple question: if this "deep state" really exists, would Trump still be alive?

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 23, 2018, 02:31:54 PM
Certainly is something to chew on, but...I am pretty certain that it isn't easy to Kill a POTUS and not leave a trace.

Quote from: Exterminator on May 24, 2018, 08:53:49 AM
This directly contradicts the very idea of a, "deep state," as did Mike Pompeo yesterday.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 24, 2018, 02:16:36 PM
I believe, they simply got sloppy.  They fully believed they had this election in Hillary's pocket, and every bad deed would be covered up and gone. 

It is getting thicker each day.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 01, 2018, 10:11:53 AM
the "Right to Try" bill....


"Thousands of terminally ill Americans will finally have hope, and the fighting chance, and I think it's going to better than a chance, that they will be cured, they will be helped, and be able to be with their families for a long time, or maybe just for a longer time"
President Trump

Quote from: Locutus on June 01, 2018, 03:20:37 PM
Kudos to him for that.  I give credit where credit is due.  Getting insurers to cover the costs is a wholly different issue, however.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 01, 2018, 10:42:36 AM
The unemployment rate fell to an 18-year low in May and employers steadily added jobs, signs of enduring strength for the labor market.

U.S. nonfarm payrolls rose a seasonally adjusted 223,000 in May, the Labor Department said Friday. The unemployment rate ticked down to 3.8%, matching April 2000 as the lowest reading since 1969.

Wages in May improved modestly, growing 2.7% from a year earlier.

Economists surveyed by The Wall Street Journal had expected 190,000 new jobs and a 3.9% unemployment rate.

Quote from: The Troll on June 03, 2018, 03:59:31 PM
  Raise in wages?  :haha:  The people making minimum wage hasn't got a raise in years and years and years, Bunky Hawk.   :rant:

Quote from: me on June 03, 2018, 05:40:18 PM
Uh, that has nothing to do with Trump ya know. Have you forgotten who was POTUS for years or something?

Quote from: Exterminator on June 04, 2018, 07:29:24 AM
The POTUS doesn't set the minimum wage.  :rolleyes:

Quote from: me on June 04, 2018, 10:54:42 PM
The government has no business sticking their noses into private businesses. If you owned a business would you want the government telling you how much you had to pay your help?

Quote from: Palehorse on June 05, 2018, 12:15:02 AM
No? Then why is the POTUS trying to force every player in the NFL to stand for the National Anthem? Why did he cancel the visit of the Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles? Because a number of them declined? Why shouldn't they? Why is he trying to violate these players constitutional right to peacefully protest?

This isn't a monarchy, no matter how much the man with a cat for a hat wishes it to be. He doesn't command any of us, outside of those contractually obligated via service in the US Military. That asshole works for us. . . or is supposed to. But he thinks he's King!  :mad:

Can you exist on 10 bucks an hour and support your current lifestyle?

Quote from: Palehorse on June 05, 2018, 12:15:02 AM
Can you exist on 10 bucks an hour and support your current lifestyle?

Quote from: me on June 05, 2018, 02:20:04 PM
As far as the lifestyle, yes, because I don't have to have the newest car, the most expensive house, the latest gadgets, or a credit card to exist.

Quote from: me on June 05, 2018, 02:20:04 PM
Those who respect the flag are wanting the players to stand and that has nothing to do with Trump. He, Trump, didn't make the NFL enact those rules the people who were boycotting the NFL games did because they were losing money.

Quote from: The Troll on June 05, 2018, 05:22:39 PM

  The old Red head "ME"   :gorgeous: says she could live on minimum wage quite well.  :haha:  What is she living on now.  Why it's Social Security, Medicare and probably some savings when she was making over the minimum wage.  :doh:

  She's just a blabber mouth Republican  :hogslop:  who wants to live high off the backs of the under paid  workers.   She can just kiss :kiss: my butt.   :mooning:

Quote from: AbbyTC on June 05, 2018, 06:45:23 PM
You live on $10/hr?  I don't have a new car or car payment, live in an apartment, don't have the latest gadgets.  I make under $12/hr and without the spousal support I get I wouldn't live in the apartment I have.  You must live in some sort of shithole if you can exist on $10/hr.  I don't even live where the cost of living is high.  According to https://www.myfirstapartment.com/2016/07/how-much-rent-can-i-afford-on-my-hourly-pay/  someone making $10/hr and working 40 hours a week can afford $500 rent.  The only places around here for that cheap are areas that are not preferred to live in.  Even Marco Rubio knows this: "Because even the jobs that are being created now don't pay enough. You can't live off $10 an hour. You can't live on $11 an hour,"

Quote from: me on June 05, 2018, 09:34:49 PM

I do not live in a shit hole as you so rudely put it. I live in a nice house in a good neighborhood and pay extra on the mortgage each month so it will be paid off early. If you're in a minimum wage job you must be unskilled labor or not ambitious enough to climb the ladder so to speak. I take it you live in Fl. I have a friend who lives in Bradenton and did quite well at just above minimum wage, she is retired now though and still doing well.

Quote from: The Troll on June 06, 2018, 03:43:43 PM


  "ME" are you telling me that you wouldn't like for the government to step in and have made the people who lived off your back and paid you a decent wage.

   wouldn't it have been nice if you would have made $15 to $20 an hour like I did with my skilled trades job. :huh1:    If you say you would not, I'd say you're an another Republican liar.  :liar2: :repub:

Quote from: AbbyTC on June 06, 2018, 06:08:41 PM
You pay extra on the mortgage and only make $10/hr???  :rolleyes: There's no way anyone without help from another financial source (SS, retirement, pension, roommate, etc) can live on $10/hr and pay extra on their mortgage.  There's no way someone lives in Bradenton and did quite well at just above minimum wage.  Minimum wage is $7.25.  There's no way anyone can live off of minimum wage unless they have income from another source. 

I'm not in a minimum wage job, I have job skills, and I am ambitious, but since I stayed home for 18 years raising my daughter, I need to build up experience to get the next higher paying job.  Why do you think I live in Florida and what other misconceptions do you have of me? You already implied I'm not ambitious.

Quote from: me on June 06, 2018, 06:54:13 PM
Unskilled labor does not deserve the same wages as skilled labor. I'm not jealous of business owners who happen to be better off than me because a lot of them started at the bottom and worked their way up so they deserve the money they make. Personally I wouldn't want the headache of being a business owner small or large. You might say I don't have an overinflated opinion of my worth and never did. That's not saying I feel like I'm not worth anything that's saying the pay should match the skill and flipping hamburgers is a level entry job and not worthy of $15 pr hour. If you want more money get into management if you have the knowledge or can be trained to do so.

Quote from: Locutus on June 06, 2018, 07:19:57 PM
Here's a bigger question for you to wrap your head around. 

Who makes the determination of what someone "is worth" or what they should make in order to be able to survive?  That question applies to single people, married people, people with different lots in life either by choice or force, etc.  Who determines that?

What about a single mom, or any other such instance you can think of, where a person is on a fixed income (social security etc.), or a fixed hourly wage at a low rate, who are trying to make ends meet when inflation is driving expenses up out of their control?  What about a person who wants to work, is working, but has a 60-mile round trip back and forth, and by the time they pay for the gas over the course of a week, their ability to make ends meet falls in jeopardy?

Who makes those determinations?  Corporations are never going to make the right decision, so when and where is it appropriate for government to step in and enforce some sort of minimum standards?

That's a lot to think about, and I don't really expect any sort of sensible reply given your history, but put that in your head and spin it around a few times.  I'd be glad to hear your thoughts if you have any.

Quote from: me on June 06, 2018, 09:18:45 PM
If the minimum wage is raised by the government the price of goods and service will increase to compensate so it would be a vicious cycle which would end up with the people no better off than they were to start with and, in some cases, worse off.  Government interference is not the answer and it would hurt small business the worst.

Quote from: Locutus on June 07, 2018, 07:40:18 AM
So what is the solution?   You didn't answer even one of my questions.  :rolleyes:

Quote from: me on June 06, 2018, 09:18:45 PM
If the minimum wage is raised by the government the price of goods and service will increase to compensate so it would be a vicious cycle which would end up with the people no better off than they were to start with and, in some cases, worse off.  Government interference is not the answer and it would hurt small business the worst.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 07, 2018, 09:19:49 AM
Free Enterprise at it's best creates competition...competition makes a corporation want better employees. To get better employees during a boom, means you have to pay better wages.  If you don't pay, they can go somewhere else and get it.

Quote from: Palehorse on June 07, 2018, 10:53:12 AM
After reviewing the labor statistical data contained at BLS.gov, it seems apparent that the market is flooded with low paying, low benefit compensating jobs, many of them part time. Meaning that each employable head accounts for multiple positions statistically. Still, the crossing of the unemployment headcount and available jobs trend points is going to force businesses to raise wage rates eventually.

The problem is a 10% increase in shit is still shit. . .   :mad:

Sweat shop economy is what we have. . .  :mad:

   
• The Employment Cost Index, a measure of salary and benefit costs, registered a 2.6 percent gain for the full year, tied for the best since 2007.
• That gives President Donald Trump the best wage gains since the Great Recession, easily topping any during former President Barack Obama's entire term.

Quote from: The Troll on June 07, 2018, 05:10:29 PM
 

  How many people out there thinks that the tariff that Trump put on steel and aluminum will end up with a net loss of jobs for the American Workers.  :doh:

  We will lose more jobs, because Trump doesn't know shit.  :trustme:

Quote from: me on June 07, 2018, 09:49:02 PM
Not if they reopen or open new steel and aluminum plants here that were lost overseas due to the high tax rate.

Quote from: The Troll on June 08, 2018, 11:39:43 AM

   :no: No company or corporation is going to invest large amounts of money building new steel and aluminum plants because of a tariff raise.  Trump put in on and knowing Trump he will let it go leaving the American companies and corporations hanging.   :yes: :rant:

  Talk about a loose cannon, Trump is a distaster.  You will see nothing good coming out of Trump's administration.   :rant:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 08, 2018, 12:11:28 PM
there already has been plenty of good that has come after 500 days and more to come...

Quote from: The Troll on June 13, 2018, 11:11:06 AM

What did Trump get from the dictator of Korea?

                     NOTHING!

Quote from: me on June 13, 2018, 03:16:27 PM
At least he didn't give him a palate of money like Obama did and got nothing. I do believe that dictator is doing more for Trump than he did for any of the previous administrations.

Quote from: Palehorse on June 16, 2018, 12:00:16 PM
Witness tampering while under house arrest, now incarcerated and multi-million dollar bail revoked. . .

How long before the canary sings and the light of day is shone down upon the crimes of others within which he has participated?

Manafort is the tip of the iceberg. . .

Quote from: me on June 13, 2018, 03:16:27 PM
At least he didn't give him a palate of money like Obama did and got nothing.

QuoteI do believe that dictator is doing more for Trump than he did for any of the previous administrations.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 18, 2018, 08:33:32 AM
That iceberg is only the tip for what I say is the fall of the democrat cartel......Hillary will end up behind bars before this is through.....and Obama will be sweatin bullets.

Quote from: Exterminator on June 18, 2018, 08:49:09 AM
Here's a real Trump accomplishment: at this very moment in time, I can't think of any living person who, aside from the idiots who constitute his base, is more hated not only in this country but everywhere in the world.

Quote from: Palehorse on June 18, 2018, 10:51:07 AM
He's a liar and a thief, stealing children from desperate families, stealing money and the voice from the middle class of this nation, and trying (extremely poorly), to blame it all upon the democratic party.  :mad:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 18, 2018, 12:35:07 PM
. . .


Congress can change these rules....Trump has had meetings with democrats, but they don't want to do it that way.....they are pushing for amnesty..which Trumps constituents does not want. 


It is INDEED a democrat party problem that they can fix.....but they have to remember.........THEY LOST this election, THEY can't have it ALL their wary.  Build the wall and this illegal entry problem goes away....no more separation of families.

Quote from: Exterminator on June 18, 2018, 04:06:37 PM
This editorial, (https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/16/opinions/trump-foundation-scandal-opinion-snell/index.html) which his blind followers will excuse as fake news (even though it doesn't present itself as news at all), perfectly describes Trump's character.

Quote from: Palehorse on June 19, 2018, 10:51:13 AM
I've said this before and I'll say it again:

The New Colossus
Emma Lazarus, 1849 - 1887

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"


This poem once exemplified this Nation's approach toward the downtrodden of the planet, but now it is a panacea.

This plaque MUST be removed from the Statue of Liberty at once!

Quote from: me on June 19, 2018, 01:24:21 PM
How many of the children who came over without parents or teenage M-13 members who sneaked across are you going to take into your home? Any suggestions as to how to handle the kids who were sent across with someone other than their parents who bring them across then leave them to fend for themselves and disappear? Should the child traffickers who are caught be allowed to stay out of jail so the kids will have an adult with them who may or may not, most likely not, be their parent? Don't give me that BS that isn't happening crap because you know it is and the media is appealing to the emotions to stir up shit.

Quote from: Exterminator on June 19, 2018, 01:50:10 PM
This is just a bunch of bullshit fear-mongering to keep you cowards compliant.  :rolleyes:

Quote from: me on June 19, 2018, 04:37:25 PM
Tell that to the families who have lost loved ones because of that gang or had their children stolen by child traffickers.

Quote from: The Troll on June 19, 2018, 08:29:37 PM
  You have over stated the  killing by Mexican gang members.  You and the Hawk would like to take over Mexico and kill all the Mexicans.  Just like Hitler and the Nazis did to the Jews.   :dead: :dead: :hanged: :behead:

Quote from: me on June 19, 2018, 04:37:25 PM
Tell that to the families who have lost loved ones because of that gang...

Quote...or had their children stolen by child traffickers.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 19, 2018, 01:24:55 PM
That's a poem, not a policy.


. . .

Quote from: libby on June 20, 2018, 12:23:22 AM
Why do "nice"  people like Trump? :confused:

Quote from: me on June 19, 2018, 01:24:21 PM
How many of the children who came over without parents or teenage M-13 members who sneaked across are you going to take into your home? Any suggestions as to how to handle the kids who were sent across with someone other than their parents who bring them across then leave them to fend for themselves and disappear? Should the child traffickers who are caught be allowed to stay out of jail so the kids will have an adult with them who may or may not, most likely not, be their parent? Don't give me that BS that isn't happening crap because you know it is and the media is appealing to the emotions to stir up shit.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 20, 2018, 10:50:17 AM
I'm a heck of a nice guy...and I LIKE Trump!  Actions are louder than words....His words may not be the best, but his actions are doing wonders for our economy.

It is sad that just how divided we are becoming though....Sorry to hear you are having issues with the family.  It used to be okay to have differing opinions....not so much anymore.

Quote from: libby on June 20, 2018, 11:54:39 AM
Sorry, but that "nice" comment by me was sarcasm.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 20, 2018, 10:50:17 AM
I'm a heck of a nice guy...and I LIKE Trump!  Actions are louder than words....His words may not be the best, but his actions are doing wonders for our economy.

It is sad that just how divided we are becoming though....Sorry to hear you are having issues with the family.  It used to be okay to have differing opinions....not so much anymore.

Quote from: Anne on June 20, 2018, 03:31:22 PM
So President Trump just signed an executive order to keep families together. Next question, where? Can they stay in detention facilities, illegal to keep children in a facility for more than twenty days. Does everyone get to leave after 20 days? I guess maybe some of the people who are so worried need to provide secure housing for all the families. Maybe they can put GPS bracelets on them. Every action presents problems no one is willing to address. For the record I don't think children should be separated from their PARENTS, but I also don't think we should have unlimited immigration.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 18, 2018, 12:35:07 PM
It is political hyperbole at it's finest.  The LAW STATES, that if you cross the border...ILLEGALLY...and they have their children, THEY cannot go with the parents.  THAT is the LAW...it isn't a NEW law, it is a LAW that has been place since the 90's.  Trump didn't make this decision....Separation happens only if officials find that the adult is falsely claiming to be the child's parent, or is a threat to the child, or is put into criminal proceedings.......Trump has supported legislation that would legalize 1.8 million "illegal" immigrants.....btw....Illegal entry is a misdemeanor and illegal re-entry a FELONY....those who are trying to get in here KNOW this....it is POLITICAL HYPERBOLE!  All they have to do is show up at a "port of entry" and make an 'asylum claim'....rather than crossing the border illegally with their kids.


Congress can change these rules....Trump has had meetings with democrats, but they don't want to do it that way.....they are pushing for amnesty..which Trumps constituents does not want. 


It is INDEED a democrat party problem that they can fix.....but they have to remember.........THEY LOST this election, THEY can't have it ALL their wary.  Build the wall and this illegal entry problem goes away....no more separation of families.

Quote from: Palehorse on June 20, 2018, 11:23:50 PM
I suggest the GOP get busy and fix things instead of pandering to the super rich and Corporate America. . .

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 21, 2018, 08:44:53 AM
Not sure if you have noticed, but things ARE getting fixed....they haven't pandered to NO ONE!  I'm not super rich, but things are MUCH better for me right now. My Company I work for isn't Corporate America, but it is doing MUCH better right now.

Lets look closer:
Business Investments up 39 Percent Due to Tax Cuts. (https://taxfoundation.org/business-investment-increases-39-percent-q1-2018/)
Black Unemployment is record low.  (http://money.cnn.com/2018/06/01/news/economy/black-unemployment-rate-record-low/index.html)(Bureau of Labor Statistics)
April was best month in history for U.S. budget, according to CBO figures (https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/7/cbo-says-april-was-best-month-history-us-budget/)
U.S. Consumer Confidence Is at 17-Year High (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-27/u-s-consumer-confidence-at-17-year-high-as-tax-cuts-take-hold)
Economy to grow at 5.4% rate in first quarter (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/01/economy-to-grow-at-5-point-4-percent-rate-in-first-quarter-atlanta-fed-tracker-shows.html)
Wages jump to highest level since 2009 - up 2.9% (https://via.hypothes.is/https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-adds-200000-jobs-worker-pay-rises-at-fastest-pace-since-2009-2018-02-02)
The U.S. trade deficit narrows (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-economy/u-s-trade-deficit-narrows-on-exports-jobs-market-tightening-idUSKBN1I41G8)
Government spending as percentage of GDP down (https://www.thebalance.com/current-u-s-federal-government-spending-3305763)
US manufacturing sentiment highest level of expansion since May 2004.  (https://www.ft.com/content/1f1dc3a8-1d64-11e8-956a-43db76e69936)


I can go on and on and on if you want...Sir, the GOP and Trump, despite your personal hatred IS INDEED very busy fixing things.... ;)

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 21, 2018, 08:44:53 AM
Not sure if you have noticed, but things ARE getting fixed....they haven't pandered to NO ONE!  I'm not super rich, but things are MUCH better for me right now. My Company I work for isn't Corporate America, but it is doing MUCH better right now.

Lets look closer:
Business Investments up 39 Percent Due to Tax Cuts. (https://taxfoundation.org/business-investment-increases-39-percent-q1-2018/)
Black Unemployment is record low.  (http://money.cnn.com/2018/06/01/news/economy/black-unemployment-rate-record-low/index.html)(Bureau of Labor Statistics)
April was best month in history for U.S. budget, according to CBO figures (https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/7/cbo-says-april-was-best-month-history-us-budget/)
U.S. Consumer Confidence Is at 17-Year High (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-27/u-s-consumer-confidence-at-17-year-high-as-tax-cuts-take-hold)
Economy to grow at 5.4% rate in first quarter (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/01/economy-to-grow-at-5-point-4-percent-rate-in-first-quarter-atlanta-fed-tracker-shows.html)
Wages jump to highest level since 2009 - up 2.9% (https://via.hypothes.is/https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-adds-200000-jobs-worker-pay-rises-at-fastest-pace-since-2009-2018-02-02)
The U.S. trade deficit narrows (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-economy/u-s-trade-deficit-narrows-on-exports-jobs-market-tightening-idUSKBN1I41G8)
Government spending as percentage of GDP down (https://www.thebalance.com/current-u-s-federal-government-spending-3305763)
US manufacturing sentiment highest level of expansion since May 2004.  (https://www.ft.com/content/1f1dc3a8-1d64-11e8-956a-43db76e69936)


I can go on and on and on if you want...Sir, the GOP and Trump, despite your personal hatred IS INDEED very busy fixing things.... ;)

Quote from: Palehorse on June 21, 2018, 10:29:01 AM
Funny how the alleged purveyor of fake news somehow automagically become the tellers of truth when you need it to support a skewed and totally off base perspective.

That  39% "investment" increases is 99% stock buyback programs; benefiting no one but the corporations executing them. They throw you a scrap ("Bonus") and suddenly its all rainbows and puppies. .  .  :rolleyes:

I could go on but I don't see a reasonable outcome in doing so. I have better things toward which my time can be devoted.

Quote from: Palehorse on June 20, 2018, 11:47:36 PM
The "zero-tolerance" policy he announced [in May 2018] sees adults who try to cross the border, many planning to seek asylum, being placed in custody and facing criminal prosecution for illegal entry.

Quote from: Exterminator on June 22, 2018, 11:52:52 AM
If wages go up but everything costs more, are you really making more money?

Quote from: Exterminator on June 22, 2018, 11:52:52 AM
If wages go up but everything costs more, are you really making more money?

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 22, 2018, 12:58:23 PM
You know Ex, that is a good question........the only thought that comes to mind after pondering this was, unless we get back to a "free" market, that is not artificially stimulated, as it was for the last several years....the answer it probably not. I think we are in unprecedented times.  I am interested in seeing how the Trump economy actually plays out in another year or so....IF, it ever happens. I am kind of optimistic, but who knows what is around the corner that could throw us back into another recession.

Quote from: me on June 22, 2018, 01:54:28 PM
Bingo.......Now apply that to wanting the government to mandate a higher minimum wage and that's what HH and I have been trying to tell you.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 22, 2018, 12:58:23 PM
I am kind of optimistic, but who knows what is around the corner that could throw us back into another recession.

Quote from: Palehorse on June 25, 2018, 11:05:42 AM
HD is the first of what I predict will be thousands of US employers that will undertake this very strategy.

Quote from: Exterminator on June 25, 2018, 01:21:53 PM
I don't know...tariffs...trade wars maybe?  :spooked:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 25, 2018, 01:29:01 PM
Calm down.....let the man make the deal....we were already being screwed by China and about every other nation........get back to me when the deal is done.

Quote from: Exterminator on June 22, 2018, 11:52:52 AM
If wages go up but everything costs more, are you really making more money?

Quote from: Exterminator on June 25, 2018, 01:20:37 PM
Proven fact...raising the minimum wage stimulates the economy...look it up if you don't believe me.

Quote from: me on June 26, 2018, 04:32:45 PM
Seems to me those two statements contradict each other.  :think:

Quote from: me on June 26, 2018, 04:32:45 PM
Seems to me those two statements contradict each other.  :think:

Quote from: me on June 26, 2018, 04:32:45 PM
Seems to me those two statements contradict each other.  :think:

Quote from: Exterminator on June 27, 2018, 12:46:26 PM
And by the way, those two statements have absolutely nothing to do with one another.

Quote from: me on June 27, 2018, 03:14:49 PM
They don't? If minimum wage is raised the cost is passed on to the customer of the business so everyone's buying power is decreased including those who are paid the higher minimum wage. It would also put mom and pop businesses out of business in a lot of cases. Therefore it does not stimulate the economy at all.

Quote from: Palehorse on June 27, 2018, 11:31:19 PM
Well North Korea is sure keeping it's promise to the US; by continuing to expand its nuclear facilities. . .  :mad: :rolleyes:

Quote from: The Troll on June 27, 2018, 08:14:23 PM
  Hey Tight Asshole, Poppa John's said that they would have to raise the price of their pizza 7cents.  You mean, you tight wad that you can't pay 7cents more for a pizza so people can live a little better, the people who makes them.  Talk a bout a greedy narcissist Republican.   :cry: :groan:

Quote from: Anne on June 28, 2018, 01:54:23 AM
Did you expect anything else?

Quote from: me on June 28, 2018, 10:04:45 AM
I wouldn't buy a Papa John's pizza for any amount of money.

Quote from: The Troll on June 28, 2018, 11:37:09 AM
  What other answer would I expect  from a dumb ass Republican.  Anything to beat around the bush.  Because you are a Narcissist.   :dizzy2: :kooks:

Quote from: me on June 27, 2018, 03:14:49 PM
If minimum wage is raised the cost is passed on to the customer of the business...

QuoteIt would also put mom and pop businesses out of business in a lot of cases.

QuoteTherefore it does not stimulate the economy at all.

Quote from: Palehorse on June 27, 2018, 11:31:19 PM
Well North Korea is sure keeping it's promise to the US; by continuing to expand its nuclear facilities. . .  :mad: :rolleyes:

Quote from: me on June 28, 2018, 11:27:59 PM
No because Papa John's pizza sucks and I wouldn't waste good money on one.

Quote from: Exterminator on June 29, 2018, 12:40:09 PM
Everyone write this data down.  We finally agree on something...their pizza is the worst!

Quote from: Exterminator on June 29, 2018, 12:40:09 PM
Everyone write this data down.  We finally agree on something...their pizza is the worst!

Quote from: The Troll on June 29, 2018, 11:04:34 PM

  You're right on Popa John's being bad.  In the latest news it's losing money hand over fist.  If it don't change it's taste it is going out of business.  :puke:

Quote from: Palehorse on June 27, 2018, 11:31:19 PM
Well North Korea is sure keeping it's promise to the US; by continuing to expand its nuclear facilities. . .  :mad: :rolleyes:

Quote from: libby on July 01, 2018, 11:22:04 PM
Sometimes there are no words -- or ones I would use. What is happening is so  scary; either Trump is as dumb as a post or is so in cahoots with the Russians, willingly or not, that he just babbles and his followers (including my extended family members and others I know) say things like "let's give him a chance," or "Clinton did worse" -- both spoken by two of my sisters.  :spooked:

Quote from: me on June 29, 2018, 04:33:31 PM
:eek: I do believe hell just may have frozen over.....

Quote from: Palehorse on July 06, 2018, 09:21:34 AM
Pruitt - GONE!

Quote from: Locutus on July 06, 2018, 10:57:30 AM
Should have been gone a long time ago.  He represents absolutely everything that's wrong with our political system.

Quote from: The Troll on July 06, 2018, 02:56:53 PM
  And the one replacing him was a lobbyist for the coal industry.  We need to start buying gas masks and soap to wash the coal dust off.   :mad: :rant:

Quote from: Palehorse on July 13, 2018, 10:43:41 AM
The credibility of this country is at an all-time low. . .  :'(

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 13, 2018, 03:52:27 PM
Naw, it's just NOW, we have someone who isn't going to allow the USA to be their floor mats anymore.


Just like NATO....26 countries NOT paying what they PROMISED to pay...and NOW, we have a leader who is telling them....if you wanna play, you gotta pay!


NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg praised President Donald Trump on Thursday for pushing countries in the alliance to boost their defense spending, an issue that has driven a wedge pushing countries in the alliance to boost their defense spending, an issue that has driven a wedge between Trump and Europe before.


"Let me thank you for the leadership you show on the issue of defense spending because it is very important that we all contribute more to our shared security, and it is really having an impact because, as you said, allies are now spending more on defense," Stoltenberg said while taking reporters' questions after the leaders met at the White House. "All allies are increasing their defense budgets."


Germany want's US military presence, so Russia won't pick on them, yet they have a hell of a deal buying Russian oil....Trump was just being HONEST and not afraid to tell it like it is.....we need MORE of that kind of leadership.


Former Prime Minister of David Cameron of the UK says that those protesters are "the same old angry noisy left that go and protest about anything,They are not interested or even aware of the substance of what Donald Trump is actually doing...They just want to show that they are good moral people because they are taking a stand against Donald Trump."

Sky Data poll (https://news.sky.com/story/sky-data-poll-britons-back-trump-on-airing-brexit-views-11435963): Britons back Trump on airing Brexit views

The figures come after Mr Trump slams Theresa May's Brexit plans, saying they would "kill" any chance of a trade deal with the US.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 14, 2018, 02:35:42 PM
Bull crap!


Obama didn't do anything good for US diplomacy!


He gave iran cash to be nice


He drew a line in the sand in Syria and didn't do squat about when they crossed it!


We find out now Russia was hacking us on his watch...Putin walked all over Crimea and O did nothing but told Putin to wait until after he was re-elected THEN he could do more for them....google it!


Now we have a leader who talks directly to them and explains our concerns... no bullshit!


Sure some don't like it but I bet you they respect us WAY more now than before he was elected.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 14, 2018, 02:35:42 PM
. . .
We find out now Russia was hacking us on his watch...Putin walked all over Crimea and O did nothing but told Putin to wait until after he was re-elected THEN he could do more for them....google it!


Now we have a leader who talks directly to them and explains our concerns... no bullshit!


Sure some don't like it but I bet you they respect us WAY more now than before he was elected.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 14, 2018, 02:35:42 PM
Bull crap!


Obama didn't do anything good for US diplomacy!


He gave iran cash to be nice


He drew a line in the sand in Syria and didn't do squat about when they crossed it!


We find out now Russia was hacking us on his watch...Putin walked all over Crimea and O did nothing but told Putin to wait until after he was re-elected THEN he could do more for them....google it!


Now we have a leader who talks directly to them and explains our concerns... no bullshit!


Sure some don't like it but I bet you they respect us WAY more now than before he was elected.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 13, 2018, 03:52:27 PM
Naw, it's just NOW, we have someone who isn't going to allow the USA to be their floor mats anymore.

QuoteJust like NATO....26 countries NOT paying what they PROMISED to pay...and NOW, we have a leader who is telling them....if you wanna play, you gotta pay!

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 14, 2018, 02:35:42 PM
He gave iran cash to be nice

Quote from: Exterminator on July 16, 2018, 11:54:22 AM
Anyone paying attention to this Trump/Putin press conference who doesn't think Trump is a traitor should probably go ahead and suck start a shotgun.

The only thing Trump hasn't done (yet) is drop to his knees and start sucking Putin's dick on camera.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 16, 2018, 01:40:14 PM
Though I totally disagree with your "analogy"....I will admit, I'm not to "fond" of this "meeting"....It didn't go as I thought it would. I'm a little disappointed, based upon what I got to see and read, so far.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 16, 2018, 04:09:52 PM
Here is my take..........democrats HATE Trump.  PERIOD.  He WON the election that he wasn't supposed to win.  NOW, ever since then, they liberal media and the Democrat Party is/has been looking for anything to stick to the wall to take him down. What's worse is that Trump IS winning just as he said he would.  The economy is booming, and pretty much every promise he made, he is honoring.


Now, one thing I have learned, it seems as if EVERY TIME the liberals and liberal media THINKS they have found something that stuck........if you just wait about 24 to 48 hours, it doesn't stick and Trump comes out smelling like a rose.


I say within the next few hours (maybe a day or two at most) the media is going to look like the idiots that they are, and Trump will come out on top.  I think ALSO, that Mueller is crapping right now because Putin is calling him out on this latest indictment of 12 Russian agents.  Mueller never dreamed anybody would call him and would have to present real evidence.


Stay tuned.... :yes:


btw, Troll.....Trump isn't a traitor...quit watch the morning joe!!  :razz:

Quote from: The Troll on July 17, 2018, 08:36:58 AM
I wonder if Putin swore Trump into the KGB at their secret meeting where no one could see or hear what was being said???   I smell traitor.

Quote from: me on July 17, 2018, 10:01:22 AM
Maybe Hillary's "reset" button finally worked.....

Quote from: Palehorse on July 17, 2018, 10:24:11 AM
She lost, your Raging Cheeto won. Focus on the clear and present danger right in front of you.

Quote from: Exterminator on July 17, 2018, 10:48:19 AM
They can't; the idea of putting country before party is unconscionable to them.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 17, 2018, 01:03:56 PM
That my friend, is EXACTLY what the democrat party has been doing to America since Nov of 2016....FACT!

Trump is actually putting America first.......you just can't get past your hatred for him.

All of this bullshit from yesterday is all that.......BULLSHIT.

There is a very good reason WHY Trump is skeptical of our OWN intelligence..........because there is FACTS that they are biased and WANT him removed from office...

See; Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Strzok...and I can go on and on.   Also, I find it ironic how Rosenstein, 3 days before Trump/Putin Summit he indicts 12 Russians.  Something is smelly on that clear to high heaven. (more to come, just wait and see)

QuoteObama said the following:

"There is no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even rig America's elections, in part because they're so decentralized and the numbers of votes involved," Obama said.

"There's no evidence that that has happened in the past or that there are instances in which that will happen this time," he continued. "And so, I 'd advise Mr. Trump to stop whining and go try to make his case to get votes."

QuoteSo enough of this treasonous BS!

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 17, 2018, 01:37:25 PM
I really don't care what you "think" .... Based upon your attitude,  I am through commenting on here.  It is useless.

Quote from: The Troll on July 17, 2018, 01:47:45 PM

  We've heard your broken record before, "I'm quitting!"  :haha:  Hawk you're a Trump loving, traitorous sheeple and also a snowflake of the first rate.  :haha:  You can't quit, Buttercup.   :mama:

Quote from: Palehorse on July 17, 2018, 10:24:11 AM
She lost, your Raging Cheeto won. Focus on the clear and present danger right in front of you.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 17, 2018, 02:59:47 PM
Yep, I am a Trump loving American!!  I think he is the best thing to happen to this country in decades.......I'm not kidding either.  I have no time for insults or child's play.

I will be here for the fun stuff.....but, not much reason to chime in on the Politics......I took the high road during the election.  I'll take it again.

Quote from: me on July 17, 2018, 03:33:38 PM
I am and it sure ain't Trump.

Quote from: Exterminator on July 17, 2018, 07:23:51 PM
No, it's gullible, illiterate losers like you who we allow to vote.

Quote from: me on July 17, 2018, 08:43:49 PM
Wow, what a way to make a point, just back off and start with the name calling and put downs. Is that tactic taught in college for debate teams?

Quote from: Exterminator on July 18, 2018, 07:21:09 AM
One must speak to one's respective audience in a language that audience can understand.  It has been 100% proven that there was a concerted (and successful!) effort by the Russian government to influence the outcome of the 2016 election.  Anyone who thinks that Trump, standing on the international stage, throwing the United States, its citizens, its media and its intelligence community under the bus in subservience to Putin while denying those facts isn't a clear and present danger to democracy, not just here but across the globe, is either a traitor or a complete idiot.  Which are you?

Putin hates the United States.  He has since the fall of the Soviet Union, having seen that as a loss to the Americans in a war he had fought his entire life.  If you were him, what would your goals be?  Further dividing the U.S.?  Calling into question the validity of our electoral process and, in doing so, democracy itself?  The loss of faith in our trusted institutions by the American people?  Seeing our relationships with our closest allies erode?  Fracturing the NATO alliance?  The erosion of our trade relationships with other countries which will eventually negatively affect our economy?  All of these things are happening and Trump is helping him to accomplish those goals. 

Wake the fuck up.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 18, 2018, 01:37:32 PM
Ex & PH
No one is saying or disagreeing that the Russian government has tried to interfere with the election.  NO ONE.


Trump did not make himself clear on stage, but has made himself clear now.  Yes, he did look foolish, but has retracted his "mis-speaking".


He is NOT a clear and present danger to our democracy.  THAT is political Hyperbole!!  Trump has made it clear he has full faith and support on our intelligence conclusion.


My question to you is, why is it NOW a concern, when the Obama administration had received multiple warnings (http://obama%20administration%20had%20received%20multiple%20warnings) from national security officials between 2014 and 2016 that the Kremlin was ramping up its intelligence operations and building disinformation networks it could use to disrupt the U.S. political system, according to more than half a dozen current and former officials.

I believe it is MORE Trump hatred that fuels this crap.....I get it!  YOU guys hate him.

Our relationship with our allies are NOT in jeopardy..that is just more political posturing. 

Also, I agree that Putin is NOT a friend of the US.  Putin is evil, as far as I am concerned.  But, Trump having talks with him isn't a BAD THING. I thought diplomacy is important?  Trump talking to Kim has been more good than bad.  I am not opposed to TRYING to develop a better relationship with Russia, but I am not holding my breath.

For the record, I am not an idiot (though I'm sure disagree) and I especially am not a traitor (that is asinine!).......I know it is your opinion and MY OPINION is that kind of rhetoric is why we are being divided.  There is so much hatred right now....if Trump is as bad as you think, it will reflect in Nov. and he will not be re-elected in 2020.

Okay, I really don't want to argue....It doesn't gain anything......it is just my opinion, that is shared by millions.  Your opinion is shared by millions.

Quote from: Exterminator on July 19, 2018, 12:42:02 PM
The extent to which the Russian misinformation campaign worked on a segment of the American population is mind boggling.  Even now, with the knowledge that it was done and that they unwittingly helped by propagating the lies, they continue to do so.  And they call us gullible sheep.   :rolleyes:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 19, 2018, 01:05:31 PM
Give me an example of their misinformation that was a lie...

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 19, 2018, 01:05:31 PM
Give me an example of their misinformation that was a lie...

Quote from: Exterminator on July 19, 2018, 01:42:32 PM
Google, "Russian disinformation examples."

Trump's constant attacks on the intelligence community and the special counsel are some homegrown examples.  They are specifically designed to make people believe that these organizations are inherently corrupt so that, in the event someone in his inner circle gets indicted, he can claim the evidence is fabricated.  He says it, Fox News promotes it, people like you believe and spread it.  None of it is true.

Quote from: Exterminator on July 18, 2018, 07:21:09 AM
One must speak to one's respective audience in a language that audience can understand.  It has been 100% proven that there was a concerted (and successful!) effort by the Russian government to influence the outcome of the 2016 election.  Anyone who thinks that Trump, standing on the international stage, throwing the United States, its citizens, its media and its intelligence community under the bus in subservience to Putin while denying those facts isn't a clear and present danger to democracy, not just here but across the globe, is either a traitor or a complete idiot.  Which are you?

Putin hates the United States.  He has since the fall of the Soviet Union, having seen that as a loss to the Americans in a war he had fought his entire life.  If you were him, what would your goals be?  Further dividing the U.S.?  Calling into question the validity of our electoral process and, in doing so, democracy itself?  The loss of faith in our trusted institutions by the American people?  Seeing our relationships with our closest allies erode?  Fracturing the NATO alliance?  The erosion of our trade relationships with other countries which will eventually negatively affect our economy?  All of these things are happening and Trump is helping him to accomplish those goals. 

Wake the fuck up.

Quote from: AbbyTC on July 19, 2018, 05:59:34 PM
:biggrin:

Quote from: AbbyTC on July 19, 2018, 05:59:34 PM
:biggrin:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 19, 2018, 04:37:49 PM
You honestly think there is NO corruption by the head of the FBI...you beleive Comey, Strzok, Brennan and McCabe are all squeaky clean?  Do you ever watch FoxNews are do  you just assume it is all bad news?

Quote from: Exterminator on July 20, 2018, 08:08:33 AM
Yes, I honestly believe there is no corruption by the head of the FBI and would remind you that when you criticize members of the intelligence community who have spent their entire lives in service to this country, you are criticizing my immediate family.

• Imposed a trade war with our allies and trading partners internationally, knee capping US farmers.
• Giving billions in aid to farmers to "make up for it", making them dependent upon the government and welfare.

Quote from: Palehorse on July 25, 2018, 12:08:36 AM

• Imposed a trade war with our allies and trading partners internationally, knee capping US farmers.
• Giving billions in aid to farmers to "make up for it", making them dependent upon the government and welfare.

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Where is that billions of dollars in aid coming from? The taxation of 99%ers. . .  :mad: :mad: :mad:

In the meantime he's cutting the medical care of active and retired military personnel. . .  :mad: :mad: :mad:

Quote from: Exterminator on July 25, 2018, 06:53:59 AM
Secret meetings with the leaders of hostile foreign governments, sparse press conferences, and now the White House has stopped publishing public summaries of President Donald Trump's phone calls with world leaders.

Is this what the Republicans mean by transparency?

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 25, 2018, 08:50:28 AM
Yeah, whatever.... (https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2016/03/02/so-much-for-obamas-pledge-to-transparency/#4c0a3bfb6cf9) :rolleyes:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 25, 2018, 08:50:28 AM
Yeah, whatever.... (https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2016/03/02/so-much-for-obamas-pledge-to-transparency/#4c0a3bfb6cf9) :rolleyes:

Quote from: Exterminator on July 25, 2018, 09:49:20 AM
We aren't talking about Obama.  Trump is the president now so your whataboutism doesn't fly especially in light of his promises to be more transparent...the most transparent...believe me.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 25, 2018, 11:41:56 AM
It was okeedoke with Obama, but now it's a bad thing?  Not buying it.  When you start pointing out the obvious corruption by the democrat party, I will listen.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 25, 2018, 11:41:56 AM
It was okeedoke with Obama, but now it's a bad thing?  Not buying it.  When you start pointing out the obvious corruption by the democrat party, I will listen.

Quote from: Exterminator on July 23, 2018, 07:07:47 AM
Everyone should read this article and listen to this interview of a KGB defector who warned us about Russia's long game over 30 years ago. That long game is bearing fruit now.

"They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern [alluding to Pavlov]. You can not change their mind even if you expose them to authentic information. Even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still can not change the basic perception and the logic of behavior."

https://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/34-years-ago-a-kgb-defector-described-america-today

Quote from: Exterminator on July 26, 2018, 08:23:46 AM
I love how the dupes are ignoring this.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 26, 2018, 09:56:25 AM. . . Look in the mirror first before throwing stones.

Quote from: Palehorse on July 26, 2018, 10:12:12 AM
Great idea! That way we can see who is behind us!

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 26, 2018, 10:56:41 AM
Probably not too many...we will see exactly this November.  Economic Optimism is leading the pack.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 26, 2018, 09:56:25 AM
I agree with what you are insinuating...but you are barking at the wrong people.  Look in the mirror first before throwing stones.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 26, 2018, 10:56:41 AM
Economic Optimism is leading the pack.

Quote from: Exterminator on July 26, 2018, 12:17:11 PM
Those who are optimistic about the long term prospects for the economy in the face of Trump's disastrous trade policies have clearly never studied economics.  The cracks are already beginning to show.

Quote from: Exterminator on July 26, 2018, 12:15:36 PM
Of course those that have been brainwashed would think that.

Quote from: Exterminator on July 26, 2018, 12:17:11 PM
Those who are optimistic about the long term prospects for the economy in the face of Trump's disastrous trade policies have clearly never studied economics.  The cracks are already beginning to show.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 26, 2018, 02:38:57 PM
Trump isn't stupid, despite what you may want to believe.  He is a negotiator. That is what he is doing.  I have confidence we will be stronger, when all is said and done. Time will indeed prove this right or wrong.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 26, 2018, 02:38:57 PM
Trump isn't stupid, despite what you may want to believe.  He is a negotiator. That is what he is doing.  I have confidence we will be stronger, when all is said and done. Time will indeed prove this right or wrong.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 26, 2018, 02:39:32 PM
Exactly....proving my point.

Quote from: Locutus on July 26, 2018, 05:35:04 PM
Hank, you may see him as a negotiator, but he doesn't have a clue what he's doing.  I could go out and negotiate a nuclear arms deal, but it doesn't mean that I'm qualified to do so.  Same with Trump.

And the difference between Trump and his predecessors is that at least previous presidents would listen to advisers when making such negotiations; listening to people who have been in that sort of business for decades.  Trump goes it alone thinking he alone has all the answers, and he snivels around like a petulant child when people try to tell him he's wrong. 

Quote from: Exterminator on July 27, 2018, 09:00:04 AM
The problem with your position is that I have facts on my side. 

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 27, 2018, 09:16:27 AM


Hey, I have alternative FACTS!!!  :razz: ;D

Quote from: Palehorse on July 27, 2018, 10:17:31 AM
Alternative or fake?

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 27, 2018, 10:34:58 AM
I think if you want fake, just go to CNN or MSNBC, they have a proven track record of fake news....btw, I was making a joke with the "alternative" remark.

Quote from: Palehorse on July 27, 2018, 10:44:57 AM
BTW I was making sarcastic joke with the fake remark. . .

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 27, 2018, 09:05:49 AM
That is where YOU are making assumptions.

QuoteFact is, Trump has many, many advisers.

QuoteHe merely isn't doing it the way it has typically been done....which hasn't been all that successful in the past.

QuoteThe bottom line is, that YOU hate Trump.  PERIOD.

QuoteWatch his actions not so much his words.  The end result is what matters.

QuoteBTW, did you see our economy grew by 4.1 percent in the second quarter?  That is a direct result of Donald J Trump.  His policies ARE working.  He isn't perfect, but he IS doing some good things, yet, you guys will never, EVER, admit it.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 27, 2018, 09:16:27 AM
Ex, you know as well as I do, there are morons on both sides.  There are folks on the left (MANY, I might add) who hate Trump, for no logical reason, other than the don't like him.  They would have equally hated Cruz or who ever the nominee would have been. 

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 27, 2018, 10:34:58 AM
I think if you want fake, just go to CNN or MSNBC, they have a proven track record of fake news.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 27, 2018, 09:05:49 AM
. . .

BTW, did you see our economy grew by 4.1 percent in the second quarter?  That is a direct result of Donald J Trump.  His policies ARE working.  He isn't perfect, but he IS doing some good things, yet, you guys will never, EVER, admit it.

Quote from: Palehorse on July 28, 2018, 12:43:34 AM
As Ex has already stated a couple of times, accurately I might add, short term gains that cannot be sustained at best. General Motors is a prime example surrounding the long term ramifications of such actions.

Quote from: Exterminator on July 27, 2018, 11:28:13 AM
There are morons on both sides indeed and I would have hated Cruz because he's a slime ball.  I don't automatically hate a candidate because he/she is a Republican.  Your party has and could nominate reasonable, rational candidates with whom I would have no problem should they get elected.  Trump is not reasonable or rational...he's a whack job.

Quote from: Anne on July 31, 2018, 08:44:10 PM
Which Republicans would you consider reasonable?

Quote from: Exterminator on August 01, 2018, 07:46:48 AM
I would have been perfectly fine with someone like McCain as president but not so much with the whack job Sarah Palin as vice.

Quote from: Anne on July 31, 2018, 08:44:10 PM
Which Republicans would you consider reasonable?

Quote from: Exterminator on August 01, 2018, 07:46:48 AM
I would have been perfectly fine with someone like McCain as president but not so much with the whack job Sarah Palin as vice.

Quote from: Locutus on August 01, 2018, 06:50:42 PM
I know this wasn't directed at me, but John Kasich is another one, along with Lindsey Graham that I consider to be more 'reasonable' than Trump.  Trump stirred, and still stirs, a lot of base emotions in people and not the nice ones. 

Quote from: Anne on August 03, 2018, 08:43:37 PM
I also like Mr. Kasich, would have preferred him over President Trump. I don't care much for Mr. Graham, something about him gives me the creeps. I don't know what it is, it's just there.😕

Quote from: Locutus on August 05, 2018, 10:48:52 AM
Perhaps that many view him as a closet homosexual?  ;D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 03, 2018, 04:11:16 PM
The Labor Department's Bureau of Labor Statistics says a record 155,965,000 people were employed in July, the 11th record-breaker since President Trump took office 19 months ago.

The economy created 59,000 more jobs in May and June than previously reported.

Manufacturers added 37,000 jobs, the most in seven months...

QuoteAverage hourly pay gains increased 2.7 percent...

Quote from: Exterminator on August 06, 2018, 07:20:32 AM
Jobs added during the Obama administration from January of 2015 through July of 2016 were 4.125 billion.  Jobs added during the same period under the Trump administration were 3.961 billion, a decrease of 434 million.  Please note that I am giving Trump January of 2017, which was his second best month on record and he wasn't the president for most of it.  If we eliminate January of 2015 and January of 2017 from the comparison, the decrease is almost 500 million jobs.

Quote from: Exterminator on August 06, 2018, 11:44:20 AM


This should be millions in total and decreases of thousands...my bad.

Fake news!  :biggrin:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 06, 2018, 02:00:20 PM
See how you are!!! :biggrin:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 06, 2018, 02:00:20 PM
See how you are!!! :biggrin:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 22, 2018, 06:54:42 AM
Let's get back on topic okay...




U.S. Steel has announced (https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/08/19/u-s-steel-to-invest-750m-at-indiana-plant-thanks-to-trump-tariffs-we-are-experiencing-a-renaissance/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook) that they will invest $750 million at their 110-year-old steel manufacturing plant known as Gary Works in Gary, Indiana, crediting President Trump's protective tariffs on steel imports.
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"We are pleased to be making this significant investment at Gary Works, which will improve the facility's environmental performance, bolster our competitiveness and benefit the local community for years to come," Burritt said in a statement.
"We are experiencing a renaissance at U.S. Steel," Burritt said.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 22, 2018, 06:43:38 AM
. . .
I'm still betting on Trump.  I'm betting 2018, there will be no blue wave....and 2020, there will still be a Trump presidency.  But, time will tell. ;)

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 22, 2018, 06:54:42 AM
U.S. Steel has announced[/url] that they will invest $750 million at their 110-year-old steel manufacturing plant known as Gary Works in Gary, Indiana, crediting President Trump's protective tariffs on steel imports.

Quote from: Exterminator on August 22, 2018, 09:45:08 AM
Which I am sure sounds great to simpletons like Trump and his gullible followers.  The reality is that while the tariffs are expected to add 26,280 jobs in the steel and aluminum industries over the next three years, they are expected to reduce employment in the rest of the economy by 432,747 jobs (http://tradepartnership.com/reports/round-3-trade-discussion-or-trade-war-the-estimated-impacts-of-tariffs-on-steel-and-aluminum/) for a net loss of 400,455 jobs.  That's more than 16 jobs lost for every job gained.  How is that beneficial, exactly?

But hey, at least prices of consumer goods are increasing as a direct result of the tariffs as well!  :rolleyes:

Quote from: Palehorse on August 22, 2018, 10:00:44 AM
Short term gain in exchange for long term disaster. . .  :mad:

Quote from: The Troll on August 22, 2018, 10:40:17 AM


  Anyone want to bet that there will be a Trump Depression like Nixon had a rescission  :rant: :rant: when he tried tariffs.  :rant: :rant: :mad:

Quote from: Exterminator on August 22, 2018, 01:52:24 PM
Well, if bat shit crazy Mark Levin says Trump's in the clear, it must be so!  LMFAO!   :rolleyes:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 22, 2018, 06:18:05 PM
Longest bull run in the history of the stock market, congratulations America!!! And thank you President Trump!!!

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 22, 2018, 06:18:05 PM
Longest bull run in the history of the stock market, congratulations America!!! And thank you President Trump!!!

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 22, 2018, 01:25:01 PM


All right. I want to address Michael Cohen. . .

Quote from: Exterminator on August 22, 2018, 01:52:24 PM
Well, if bat shit crazy Mark Levin says Trump's in the clear, it must be so!  LMFAO!   :rolleyes:

Quote from: Palehorse on August 23, 2018, 12:06:07 AM
Illegal is illegal. . . Crime is crime. . .

Quote from: Exterminator on August 23, 2018, 07:05:29 AM
But his supporters don't care.  Any pretense they claimed to hold any inkling of moral high ground has been irrevocably squandered.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 23, 2018, 11:44:59 AM
No crime has been committed by Trump....

QuoteIf the republicans had 2 years to investigate Obama by a special council and had the fbi at their disposal they would have found plenty of wrongdoers associated with him

QuoteThis whole thing was to see if there was any Russian collusion by Trump....Zilcb!

QuoteTrump is doing exactly what he campaigned to do and successfully!  That annoys the hell out of liberals

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 23, 2018, 11:44:59 AM
. . .
If the republicans had 2 years to investigate Obama by a special council and had the fbi at their disposal they would have found plenty of wrongdoers associated with him
I'm quite certain


. . .

Quote from: Palehorse on August 24, 2018, 11:04:34 AM
Trump CFO was just granted immunity as well. . .

"Follow the money". . . This is not good news for the Cheeto!

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 23, 2018, 11:44:59 AM
Again! Much ado about nothing!


No crime has been committed by Trump....


If the republicans had 2 years to investigate Obama by a special council and had the fbi at their disposal they would have found plenty of wrongdoers associated with him
I'm quite certain


This whole thing was to see if there was any Russian collusion by Trump....Zilcb!


It is nothing more than a bunch of crooked losers trying to get back at Trump for beating Hillary!


Nothing more nothing less!


Trump is doing exactly what he campaigned to do and successfully!  That annoys the hell out of liberals

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 27, 2018, 09:34:53 PM
Spot on!




They can't believe Trump survived the Access Hollywood video; they can't believe Trump's gonna survive this. They just can't believe it — and then to add insult to injury, the stock market had a brand-new record high today of 26,000, NASDAQ hit 8,000 for the first time ever on the news that we have a renegotiated NAFTA trade deal with Mexico. Tell me: Did any Democrats have anything to do with this? They didn't. This is a Donald Trump production.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 27, 2018, 09:34:53 PM
Spot on!




They can't believe Trump survived the Access Hollywood video; they can't believe Trump's gonna survive this. They just can't believe it — and then to add insult to injury, the stock market had a brand-new record high today of 26,000, NASDAQ hit 8,000 for the first time ever on the news that we have a renegotiated NAFTA trade deal with Mexico. Tell me: Did any Democrats have anything to do with this? They didn't. This is a Donald Trump production.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 27, 2018, 09:34:53 PM
They can't believe Trump survived the Access Hollywood video; they can't believe Trump's gonna survive this. They just can't believe it — and then to add insult to injury, the stock market had a brand-new record high today of 26,000, NASDAQ hit 8,000 for the first time ever on the news that we have a renegotiated NAFTA trade deal with Mexico. Tell me: Did any Democrats have anything to do with this? They didn't. This is a Donald Trump production.

Quote from: Exterminator on August 29, 2018, 11:11:20 AM
Rush left out another of Trump's accomplishments: the U.S. Treasury expects to borrow $955 billion in fiscal year 2018, up from $519 billion in fiscal year 2017, an 84% increase in the first year that Trump has full control of the budget!

Do you think that that extra $436 billion pumped into the economy has anything to do with the numbers you're seeing above (it does) and do you think it's sustainable long term? (it's not)

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 29, 2018, 12:04:25 PM
Stronger economy means more federal revenue.  More federal revenue shrinks deficit.  THAT is sustainable.  We never had this approach by a business man, it has always been by politicians, who were bought off.
Time will tell, but these are unprecedented times....I say give him a chance to prove it.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 29, 2018, 12:04:25 PM
Stronger economy means more federal revenue.  More federal revenue shrinks deficit.  THAT is sustainable.

QuoteWe never had this approach by a business man, it has always been by politicians, who were bought off.

Quote from: The Troll on August 30, 2018, 11:22:00 PM
Tell me something brainless one.  Why is Trump cancelling the government workers raise in this wonderful Trump economy?

Quote from: Exterminator on August 31, 2018, 08:11:50 AM
Exactly.  Trump cited his statutory authority to freeze their pay because of "national emergency or serious economic conditions affecting the general welfare."  There is no national emergency so we are left with serious economic conditions.  So which is it?  Is the economy doing awesome and will only keep getting better or are we facing serious economic conditions?  You can't have it both ways.

Quote from: Palehorse on August 31, 2018, 10:11:25 AM
And I predict corporate Amerika may very well use this as the basis for issuing no raises next year; increasing their bottom line exponentially. . .  :mad:

Quote from: Exterminator on August 31, 2018, 08:11:50 AM
Exactly.  Trump cited his statutory authority to freeze their pay because of "national emergency or serious economic conditions affecting the general welfare."  There is no national emergency so we are left with serious economic conditions.  So which is it?  Is the economy doing awesome and will only keep getting better or are we facing serious economic conditions?  You can't have it both ways.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 31, 2018, 05:06:45 PM

So, you freeze wages and freeze hiring.  That is what smart businessmen do.   

  So you just think we need to continue to give MORE money to federal employees when we don't have it to give?  Hence the reason why we are in debt like we are. 

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 31, 2018, 05:06:45 PM
Well, this is because we have a businessman making a SOUND business decision....the federal government has more going out than coming in.  So, you freeze wages and freeze hiring.  That is what smart businessmen do.  Yes our economy is indeed doing awesome.  That doesn't mean we have money to burn.  So you just think we need to continue to give MORE money to federal employees when we don't have it to give?  That is the way we been doing it for years and years, hence the reason why we are in debt like we are.

Let's give it a couple more years of this current economic activity...as much as you hate Trump, he IS doing the right thing...and it burns liberals asses because they don't WANT this country to get better under his administration because that would doom the democrat party as we all know it.

Quote from: Bo D on September 03, 2018, 10:23:42 PM
I read the title of this thread and I vomited in my mouth.

Quote from: Exterminator on September 05, 2018, 08:07:16 AM
Since Trump took office, the top 100 federal contractors have sent 13,241 jobs overseas, (http://goodjobsnation.org/content/uploads/2018/08/Broken-Promises2.pdf) a rate nearly three times the average during the Obama administration.

Didn't Trump say that he would put a stop to offshoring, what he called "the greatest jobs theft in the history of our world," on day one of his presidency?

Quote from: Palehorse on September 05, 2018, 10:43:57 AM
Bait and switch. . .  :mad:

Quote from: Exterminator on September 05, 2018, 08:07:16 AM
Since Trump took office, the top 100 federal contractors have sent 13,241 jobs overseas, (http://goodjobsnation.org/content/uploads/2018/08/Broken-Promises2.pdf) a rate nearly three times the average during the Obama administration.

Didn't Trump say that he would put a stop to offshoring, what he called "the greatest jobs theft in the history of our world," on day one of his presidency?

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 06, 2018, 07:54:08 AM
Despite the fact that almost 4 MILLION jobs has been created since the election...

QuoteYou don't like him because he is destroying the democrat platform democracy all to hell.

QuoteDespite how viciously the left is trying to take him down....he is still prevailing...

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 06, 2018, 10:01:28 AM
Just like everything else you guys have thrown at him...this too, will end up being "a bunch of nothing". 


Remember he had Alzheimer?  oh wiat....fake news


Remember Stormy Daniels?  That was the end of his Presidency....oh wait!!! More BS...


Oh yeah, he colluded with the Russians......OH WAIT!!!  Nada....


Well, Lanny Davis told CNN that Trump knew about the Trump Tower meeting.......WAIT AGAIN....Lanny later admits, he LIED to CNN...he made it up!!!


This list goes on and on and on....


The real story is about to break has more to do with the Corruption with the FBI (The Head of the FBI, not the hard working agents)...the corruption WILL indeed point fingers at Hillary and Obama when it is all said and done....THAT is why everyone is out to get Trump first.........but, it is all starting to fall.  Breaking News is just around the corner..... ;)

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 07, 2018, 05:49:07 PM
Friday brought another round of good news: Nonfarm payrolls rose by a better-than-expected 201,000 and wages, the last missing piece of the economic recovery, increased by 2.9 percent year over year to the highest level since April 2009. That made it the best gain since the recession ended in June 2009.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 09, 2018, 10:19:29 PM
Just stating facts Troll...

Quote from: Exterminator on September 10, 2018, 08:30:51 AM
But you only state some of the facts.  What was inflation during the same time period?

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 10, 2018, 08:58:29 AM
Not following your logic....it is better now or at the least the same as it has been....but in most cases better.

Quote from: Exterminator on September 10, 2018, 01:03:38 PM
Google "current inflation vs wage growth."  The reality is that any increase in wages over the past year are more than offset by increases in prices.  To be fair, this follows a 40 year trend but I'm not trying to convince anyone that something has changed for the better under this administration.  Nothing has changed and it isn't any better.

Quote from: AbbyTC on September 12, 2018, 09:26:02 PM
Trump when talking about hurricane Florence:  "We haven't seen anything like what's coming at us in, uh, 25, 30 years, maybe ever. It's tremendously big and tremendously wet."   :rotfl:   What a great description!  I feel like I'm reading a second grader's description of a hurricane.

Quote from: AbbyTC on September 12, 2018, 09:26:02 PM
"It's tremendously big and tremendously wet."

Quote from: The Troll on September 13, 2018, 05:06:26 PM

  Watch tonight.  Stormy Gate.  On Tucker Carlson on Fox News at 8:00 PM.

Quote from: Palehorse on September 12, 2018, 11:47:40 PM
I'm thinking he was having a flashback . . . I cannot describe it other than to quote him. "Grab 'em by the p#%sy."

Quote from: Exterminator on September 13, 2018, 07:00:48 AM
I had to go back and read the remark in context because at first I thought he was referring to Melania's hoohaa.  :biggrin:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 15, 2018, 11:36:17 AM
I believe you have it wrong


Soon, the truth will come out....The house of cards is going to collapse but it won't be Trump's house.


Obama and Hillary are about to be exposed exactly what many of us have known for a long time...being corrupt! 😠


Soon...

Quote from: Palehorse on September 15, 2018, 02:39:32 PM
Parroting Trumpisms still?  :rolleyes:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 17, 2018, 11:12:34 AM
No more than you worshiping Pelosi, Obama, Hillary.........you guys think they are honest folks trying to help our Country..........when the truth about the corruption they are involved in is about to drop.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 17, 2018, 08:49:39 AM
i don't care what Trump did BEFORE his political life.

Quote from: Exterminator on September 17, 2018, 01:22:42 PM
This right here is the Republicans in a nutshell...zero integrity.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 17, 2018, 11:12:34 AM
No more than you worshiping Pelosi, Obama, Hillary.... . . .

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 17, 2018, 03:50:30 PM
The air is just as clean as it was...the water is just a clean as it was....and I'm not rich, but I am richer.  Because of Trump.


Those tax cuts work!  The very tax cuts the dems voted against and want repealed......has made my life better.  It has made YOUR life better, but you would/will never admit it.


Life for the average American is better, because of Trump.  This is undeniable to anyone who has any common sense. 


Ask the African American who has the lowest unemployment numbers in the history of this nation


Ask the Hispanic American who has the lowest unemployment numbers in the history of this nation

Ask the Women of America who has the lowest unemployment numbers since 1953....

Because of Trump....NOT OBAMA, but Trump.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 17, 2018, 03:50:30 PM
. . .

Those tax cuts work!  The very tax cuts the dems voted against and want repealed......has made my life better.  It has made YOUR life better, but you would/will never admit it.


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Quote from: Palehorse on September 17, 2018, 06:50:47 PM
We'll see how you feel about it in 4 years as the hook hidden in that meager piece of bait is sunk deep within the throat of America.

You see, they were counting on you seeing the words "tax cut" and failing to read beyond the first year or two of the details. Had you done so you'd realize that they will be taking it back in 4 years, along with a rage number of its friends too!  :yes:  :mad: :mad: :mad:

Which is exactly why the Democratic Party voted against it.

Quote from: Palehorse on September 17, 2018, 06:50:47 PM
We'll see how you feel about it in 4 years as the hook hidden in that meager piece of bait is sunk deep within the throat of America.

You see, they were counting on you seeing the words "tax cut" and failing to read beyond the first year or two of the details. Had you done so you'd realize that they will be taking it back in 4 years, along with a rage number of its friends too!  :yes: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Which is exactly why the Democratic Party voted against it.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 17, 2018, 01:35:34 PM
I can easily say that you have NO INTEGRITY to make such a claim. So, in a nutshell, Democrats have NO INTEGRITY. NONE! NADA!!!

Quoteand it will, indeed be proven very soon.

Quote from: Locutus on September 17, 2018, 07:50:14 PM
Well, in all honesty, none of the people who support those sorts of tax cuts ever see the negative side.  The elected officials of the Republican persuasion don't see it, nor do the people who, like Hank, elected them.

It hasn't worked time and again when these policies have been tried in the past, but it never stops them from being tried again and again.

Quote from: Exterminator on September 18, 2018, 08:33:56 AM
Very mature response...right up there with, "I know you are but what am I," or, "I'm rubber, you're glue..."   :rolleyes:

Quote from: Exterminator on September 18, 2018, 08:41:48 AM
They also fail to realize that the few meager extra dollars they've seen in their paychecks have been more than offset by increases in prices.  All they see are more dollars; the concept of those more dollars having less purchasing power is completely foreign to these simpletons.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 18, 2018, 09:07:53 AM
. . .  We should let our government have more of it, they know better than we do on spending... :rolleyes:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 18, 2018, 09:07:53 AM
Yeah, that's right, less money in your paycheck is always a bad thing..... :rolleyes:   We should let our government have more of it, they know better than we do on spending... :rolleyes:

Quote from: Palehorse on September 18, 2018, 10:44:39 AM

"Boy: You're gonna carry that weight, carry that weight a long time!" . . .

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 18, 2018, 06:04:19 PM
ph, do you honestly believe we as a nation are better off paying higher taxes as we were or as we are currently?
Do you believe that our government would boost our economy if we paid a higher rate?

Serious question

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 18, 2018, 06:04:19 PM
ph, do you honestly believe we as a nation are better off paying higher taxes as we were or as we are currently?
Do you believe that our government would boost our economy if we paid a higher rate?

Serious question

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 18, 2018, 09:07:53 AM
Yeah, that's right, less money in your paycheck is always a bad thing..... :rolleyes:   We should let our government have more of it, they know better than we do on spending... :rolleyes:

Quote from: Exterminator on September 18, 2018, 11:01:38 AM
You're really not very good at math, are you?

   
• For the first time since 1973, the United States is the world's largest producer of crude oil, according to preliminary estimates published on Wednesday by the Energy Department.

   
• Growth in the U.S. economy exploded in the spring and the third quarter that got underway in July is also shaping up to be a good one. The economy is firing on almost all cylinders, though the persistent threat of a broader trade war continues to threaten recent gains.

   
• The survey measures American's sentiment on current economic conditions and prospects for the next six months, including business and labor market conditions[size=78%].[/size]

   
• No President in more than 50 years has decreased the Debt to GDP ratio in his first year in office by more than 1%. [/size][size=78%]The last President to do so was Nixon in 1969. Presidents Reagan and George W. Bush decreased the Debt to GDP ratio in their first years in office but by less than 1%.[/size]

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 19, 2018, 07:50:07 PM
Just to point out a few things that you probably didn't hear on MSNBC....but:


America is now the worlds largest oil producer (https://money.cnn.com/2018/09/12/investing/us-oil-production-russia-saudi-arabia/index.html?utm_content=2018-09-13T07%3A31%3A06&utm_term=link&utm_medium=social&utm_source=fbCNN)

   
• For the first time since 1973, the United States is the world's largest producer of crude oil, according to preliminary estimates published on Wednesday by the Energy Department.

GREAT Manufacturers growing at fastest pace in 14 years (https://www.marketwatch.com/story/american-manufacturers-growing-at-fastest-pace-in-14-years-ism-finds-2018-09-04)

   
• Growth in the U.S. economy exploded in the spring and the third quarter that got underway in July is also shaping up to be a good one. The economy is firing on almost all cylinders, though the persistent threat of a broader trade war continues to threaten recent gains.

Consumer Confidence Highest in 18 years (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/28/august-consumer-confidence.html)

   
• The survey measures American's sentiment on current economic conditions and prospects for the next six months, including business and labor market conditions[size=78%].[/size]

Worker pay rate hits highest level since 2008 (https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/07/31/worker-pay-rate-hits-highest-level-since-2008.html)

Black Support for Trump DOUBLES to 29 percent (https://www.dailywire.com/news/34001/poll-black-support-trump-nearly-doubles-last-year-amanda-prestigiacomo)
"This is probably the most pro-active administration regarding urban America and the faith-based community in my lifetime," said Pastor Darrell Scott, an early supporter of Trump's.
"This president actually wants to prove something to our community, our faith-based community and our ethnic community. The last president didn't feel like he had to. He got a pass," added Scott. "This is probably going to be... the most pro-black president I've seen in my lifetime."

Trump Decreases Debt to GDP Ratio - First Time in Over 50 Years! (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/01/its-official-president-trump-decreases-debt-to-gdp-ratio-in-his-first-year-in-office-making-america-great-again/)

   
• No President in more than 50 years has decreased the Debt to GDP ratio in his first year in office by more than 1%. [/size][size=78%]The last President to do so was Nixon in 1969. Presidents Reagan and George W. Bush decreased the Debt to GDP ratio in their first years in office but by less than 1%.[/size]

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 19, 2018, 07:50:07 PM
Just to point out a few things that you probably didn't hear on MSNBC....but:


Trump Decreases Debt to GDP Ratio - First Time in Over 50 Years! (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/01/its-official-president-trump-decreases-debt-to-gdp-ratio-in-his-first-year-in-office-making-america-great-again/)

   
• No President in more than 50 years has decreased the Debt to GDP ratio in his first year in office by more than 1%. [/size][size=78%]The last President to do so was Nixon in 1969. Presidents Reagan and George W. Bush decreased the Debt to GDP ratio in their first years in office but by less than 1%.[/size]