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Started by Henry Hawk, January 23, 2018, 12:33:28 PM

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libby

 Why do "nice"  people like Trump? :confused: My family is a good example: I have four sisters. They all married well, have nice homes, go to church. As far as I can tell, they and spouses are all republicans, and know I am a Democrat. 

Hadn't seen any of them for a while, but last Saturday night went to the Richmond area for a birthday party for one brother-in-law. There were people from their church and a few others, plus other extended family members -- maybe 30 in all. It went well, and after the non-family people left, we all settled in the family room to catch up, especially to talk about our other sister, who is gravely ill. Then the  conversation went here and there, and we ended up talking about POTUS Trump. I said something, don't remember what, and one sister got up and in the stance of a referee, said, in a loud voice, "Time out! Time out!" And would not let me speak. I was mortified, but also angry, and said that since I was not allowed to speak, I was leaving, and walked out of the room. At that moment I forgot that I was riding with the sister who had just insulted me, and she and everybody else seemed to be following as I walked out the door and stood by the car I arrived in.

During the ride back up I-95, not a single word was spoken by me, sister, or her husband. I did thank them for the ride when I got out of their car.

Interesting thing was that the sister I rode with had said not too long ago that we should give Trump a chance, and the sister who hosted the party said to me as I was leaving, "You know what Clinton did was worse..." as if that was all that mattered.
All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

me

Quote from: The Troll on June 19, 2018, 08:29:37 PM
  You have over stated the  killing by Mexican gang members.  You and the Hawk would like to take over Mexico and kill all the Mexicans.  Just like Hitler and the Nazis did to the Jews.   :dead: :dead: :hanged: :behead:
Oh please spare me. You watch too much Madcow and View.....  :rolleyes:
Trump 2020

Exterminator

Quote from: me on June 19, 2018, 04:37:25 PM
Tell that to the families who have lost loved ones because of that gang...

You know that MS-13 originated in Los Angeles, right?  They didn't come here from somewhere else; they started here.

Quote...or had their children stolen by child traffickers.

How many of the 1,500 immigrant children that the U.S. government has lost track of do you think may have become the victims of human trafficking?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 19, 2018, 01:24:55 PM
That's a poem, not a policy.


. . .

It is a poem that was placed at the foot of the Statue of Liberty due to it's topic being reflective of the approach and policies of this nation. The elected leadership back then intended it to be a reminder of the cornerstone of what made this country great, and could still be doing so today. . .

Why else would it be placed there at the foot of Lady Liberty?

The problem is it doesn't support the racist and separatist policies of our elected leadership today; and the herd of sheep they tend . . .

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That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

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Henry Hawk

Quote from: libby on June 20, 2018, 12:23:22 AM
Why do "nice"  people like Trump? :confused:

I'm a heck of a nice guy...and I LIKE Trump!  Actions are louder than words....His words may not be the best, but his actions are doing wonders for our economy.

It is sad that just how divided we are becoming though....Sorry to hear you are having issues with the family.  It used to be okay to have differing opinions....not so much anymore.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Quote from: me on June 19, 2018, 01:24:21 PM
How many of the children who came over without parents or teenage M-13 members who sneaked across are you going to take into your home? Any suggestions as to how to handle the kids who were sent across with someone other than their parents who bring them across then leave them to fend for themselves and disappear? Should the child traffickers who are caught be allowed to stay out of jail so the kids will have an adult with them who may or may not, most likely not, be their parent? Don't give me that BS that isn't happening crap because you know it is and the media is appealing to the emotions to stir up shit.

MS13 is a US originated gang. Period. Pretty sad when a street gang is more reflective of this nations historic immigration policies than the nation itself.

Who takes care of the children of Americans that are arrested and incarcerated? Do you? Would you?

Separation of families due to a misdemeanor violation of an immigration policy is cruel and unusual punishment; and itself unconstitutional. It is also a morally corrupt policy and practice that goes against the intentions of our forefathers as outlined within the US Constitution.

I've said it many times herein, our elected leadership uses, and continues to use, the least amongst us as a lever with which to whip up emotional turmoil as a means to blind us to the fact they are slowly taking away our rights and our quality of life. They are using it as a means to exterminate hope and sell this country, and by proxy our governance, to the highest bidder.

ALL of this is the responsibility of the Republican Party, it's extremist and racist policies and practices, and its followers.

They control everything; the house, the senate, and the Whitehouse. They wanted it, they got it, and now the real pain begins.

On a global scale this nation is repeating the mistakes it has been making domestically; colluding with the underbelly of this planet and withdrawing membership within philanthropic global organizations. Including those supporting basic human rights.

Trump is accomplishing what no president ever dared to attempt; the rapid decline of this nation on a global scale. Separating this nation from every single country that exists upon it. He will invade Mexico and/or Canada if he can get away with it. . .  :mad:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

libby

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 20, 2018, 10:50:17 AM
I'm a heck of a nice guy...and I LIKE Trump!  Actions are louder than words....His words may not be the best, but his actions are doing wonders for our economy.

It is sad that just how divided we are becoming though....Sorry to hear you are having issues with the family.  It used to be okay to have differing opinions....not so much anymore.
Sorry, but that "nice" comment by me was sarcasm.
All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

Henry Hawk

Quote from: libby on June 20, 2018, 11:54:39 AM
Sorry, but that "nice" comment by me was sarcasm.

and mine isn't. 
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 20, 2018, 10:50:17 AM
I'm a heck of a nice guy...and I LIKE Trump!  Actions are louder than words....His words may not be the best, but his actions are doing wonders for our economy.

It is sad that just how divided we are becoming though....Sorry to hear you are having issues with the family.  It used to be okay to have differing opinions....not so much anymore.

  A nice guy you are not. :doh:  You need to see and read the description of an Narcissist.  People with a Narcissistic personality have no empathy, no sympathy.  They are liars, good actors.  They do not have any true friends, because they think they are better and smarter than anyone else.  Plus they think that people are to be used to make themselves feel better and live better.  :yes: 

  You Hawk , ME and Trump are Narcissists.  :trustme:   :biggrin:

Anne

So President Trump just signed an executive order to keep families together. Next question, where? Can they stay in detention facilities, illegal to keep children in a facility for more than twenty days. Does everyone get to leave after 20 days? I guess maybe some of the people who are so worried need to provide secure housing for all the families. Maybe they can put GPS bracelets on them. Every action presents problems no one is willing to address. For the record I don't think children should be separated from their PARENTS, but I also don't think we should have unlimited immigration.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Palehorse

Quote from: Anne on June 20, 2018, 03:31:22 PM
So President Trump just signed an executive order to keep families together. Next question, where? Can they stay in detention facilities, illegal to keep children in a facility for more than twenty days. Does everyone get to leave after 20 days? I guess maybe some of the people who are so worried need to provide secure housing for all the families. Maybe they can put GPS bracelets on them. Every action presents problems no one is willing to address. For the record I don't think children should be separated from their PARENTS, but I also don't think we should have unlimited immigration.

Guess it should have been fixed then; so why aren't they fixing it? The GOP has the house, the senate, and the White House. . .

No one is saying unlimited immigration. That is nothing but hyperbole. (The real kind). Zero tolerance is not the answer either.

I suggest the GOP get busy and fix things instead of pandering to the super rich and Corporate America. . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 18, 2018, 12:35:07 PM
It is political hyperbole at it's finest.  The LAW STATES, that if you cross the border...ILLEGALLY...and they have their children, THEY cannot go with the parents.  THAT is the LAW...it isn't a NEW law, it is a LAW that has been place since the 90's.  Trump didn't make this decision....Separation happens only if officials find that the adult is falsely claiming to be the child's parent, or is a threat to the child, or is put into criminal proceedings.......Trump has supported legislation that would legalize 1.8 million "illegal" immigrants.....btw....Illegal entry is a misdemeanor and illegal re-entry a FELONY....those who are trying to get in here KNOW this....it is POLITICAL HYPERBOLE!  All they have to do is show up at a "port of entry" and make an 'asylum claim'....rather than crossing the border illegally with their kids.


Congress can change these rules....Trump has had meetings with democrats, but they don't want to do it that way.....they are pushing for amnesty..which Trumps constituents does not want. 


It is INDEED a democrat party problem that they can fix.....but they have to remember.........THEY LOST this election, THEY can't have it ALL their wary.  Build the wall and this illegal entry problem goes away....no more separation of families.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/was-law-separate-families-passed-1997/?utm_source=sumome&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=sumome_share

HYPERBOLE huh. . . .

. . .There is no federal law that stipulates that children and parents be separated at the border, no matter how families entered the United States. An increase in child detainees separated from parents stemmed directly from a change in enforcement policy repeatedly announced by Sessions in April and May 2018, under which adults (with or without children) are criminally prosecuted for attempting to enter the United States:

The "zero-tolerance" policy he announced [in May 2018] sees adults who try to cross the border, many planning to seek asylum, being placed in custody and facing criminal prosecution for illegal entry.

As a result, hundreds of minors are now being housed in detention centres, and kept away from their parents.

Over a recent six-week period, nearly 2,000 children were separated from their parents after illegally crossing the border, figures released on [15 June 2018].

[Attorney General] Sessions said those entering the US irregularly would be criminally prosecuted, a change to a long-standing policy of charging most of those crossing for the first time with a misdemeanour offence. . . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

The Troll



  Trump and the Republicans have caused a bigger problem.   :rant:  How are these mothers going to take care of theirs children in a federal prison cell.  :haha:  Things will get worse for the Orange Liar.  I wonder how he's going to get out of this.  :dig:  :groan:

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Palehorse on June 20, 2018, 11:23:50 PM
I suggest the GOP get busy and fix things instead of pandering to the super rich and Corporate America. . .

Not sure if you have noticed, but things ARE getting fixed....they haven't pandered to NO ONE!  I'm not super rich, but things are MUCH better for me right now. My Company I work for isn't Corporate America, but it is doing MUCH better right now.

Lets look closer:
Business Investments up 39 Percent Due to Tax Cuts.
Black Unemployment is record low. (Bureau of Labor Statistics)
April was best month in history for U.S. budget, according to CBO figures
U.S. Consumer Confidence Is at 17-Year High
Economy to grow at 5.4% rate in first quarter
Wages jump to highest level since 2009 - up 2.9%
The U.S. trade deficit narrows
Government spending as percentage of GDP down
US manufacturing sentiment highest level of expansion since May 2004.


I can go on and on and on if you want...Sir, the GOP and Trump, despite your personal hatred IS INDEED very busy fixing things.... ;)
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 21, 2018, 08:44:53 AM
Not sure if you have noticed, but things ARE getting fixed....they haven't pandered to NO ONE!  I'm not super rich, but things are MUCH better for me right now. My Company I work for isn't Corporate America, but it is doing MUCH better right now.

Lets look closer:
Business Investments up 39 Percent Due to Tax Cuts.
Black Unemployment is record low. (Bureau of Labor Statistics)
April was best month in history for U.S. budget, according to CBO figures
U.S. Consumer Confidence Is at 17-Year High
Economy to grow at 5.4% rate in first quarter
Wages jump to highest level since 2009 - up 2.9%
The U.S. trade deficit narrows
Government spending as percentage of GDP down
US manufacturing sentiment highest level of expansion since May 2004.


I can go on and on and on if you want...Sir, the GOP and Trump, despite your personal hatred IS INDEED very busy fixing things.... ;)

  You must be on drugs.  What are taking and what are you smoking, Bunky.  :haha:  LaLa Land is here for the Hawk.  :haha: