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Started by Henry Hawk, January 23, 2018, 12:33:28 PM

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Quote from: Exterminator on July 17, 2018, 07:23:51 PM
No, it's gullible, illiterate losers like you who we allow to vote.
Wow, what a way to make a point, just back off and start with the name calling and put downs. Is that tactic taught in college for debate teams?
Trump 2020

Exterminator

Quote from: me on July 17, 2018, 08:43:49 PM
Wow, what a way to make a point, just back off and start with the name calling and put downs. Is that tactic taught in college for debate teams?

One must speak to one's respective audience in a language that audience can understand.  It has been 100% proven that there was a concerted (and successful!) effort by the Russian government to influence the outcome of the 2016 election.  Anyone who thinks that Trump, standing on the international stage, throwing the United States, its citizens, its media and its intelligence community under the bus in subservience to Putin while denying those facts isn't a clear and present danger to democracy, not just here but across the globe, is either a traitor or a complete idiot.  Which are you?

Putin hates the United States.  He has since the fall of the Soviet Union, having seen that as a loss to the Americans in a war he had fought his entire life.  If you were him, what would your goals be?  Further dividing the U.S.?  Calling into question the validity of our electoral process and, in doing so, democracy itself?  The loss of faith in our trusted institutions by the American people?  Seeing our relationships with our closest allies erode?  Fracturing the NATO alliance?  The erosion of our trade relationships with other countries which will eventually negatively affect our economy?  All of these things are happening and Trump is helping him to accomplish those goals. 

Wake the fuck up.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Palehorse

Quote from: Exterminator on July 18, 2018, 07:21:09 AM
One must speak to one's respective audience in a language that audience can understand.  It has been 100% proven that there was a concerted (and successful!) effort by the Russian government to influence the outcome of the 2016 election.  Anyone who thinks that Trump, standing on the international stage, throwing the United States, its citizens, its media and its intelligence community under the bus in subservience to Putin while denying those facts isn't a clear and present danger to democracy, not just here but across the globe, is either a traitor or a complete idiot.  Which are you?

Putin hates the United States.  He has since the fall of the Soviet Union, having seen that as a loss to the Americans in a war he had fought his entire life.  If you were him, what would your goals be?  Further dividing the U.S.?  Calling into question the validity of our electoral process and, in doing so, democracy itself?  The loss of faith in our trusted institutions by the American people?  Seeing our relationships with our closest allies erode?  Fracturing the NATO alliance?  The erosion of our trade relationships with other countries which will eventually negatively affect our economy?  All of these things are happening and Trump is helping him to accomplish those goals. 

Wake the fuck up.

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Henry Hawk

Ex & PH
No one is saying or disagreeing that the Russian government has tried to interfere with the election.  NO ONE.


Trump did not make himself clear on stage, but has made himself clear now.  Yes, he did look foolish, but has retracted his "mis-speaking".


He is NOT a clear and present danger to our democracy.  THAT is political Hyperbole!!  Trump has made it clear he has full faith and support on our intelligence conclusion.


My question to you is, why is it NOW a concern, when the Obama administration had received multiple warnings from national security officials between 2014 and 2016 that the Kremlin was ramping up its intelligence operations and building disinformation networks it could use to disrupt the U.S. political system, according to more than half a dozen current and former officials.

I believe it is MORE Trump hatred that fuels this crap.....I get it!  YOU guys hate him.

Our relationship with our allies are NOT in jeopardy..that is just more political posturing. 

Also, I agree that Putin is NOT a friend of the US.  Putin is evil, as far as I am concerned.  But, Trump having talks with him isn't a BAD THING. I thought diplomacy is important?  Trump talking to Kim has been more good than bad.  I am not opposed to TRYING to develop a better relationship with Russia, but I am not holding my breath.

For the record, I am not an idiot (though I'm sure disagree) and I especially am not a traitor (that is asinine!).......I know it is your opinion and MY OPINION is that kind of rhetoric is why we are being divided.  There is so much hatred right now....if Trump is as bad as you think, it will reflect in Nov. and he will not be re-elected in 2020.

Okay, I really don't want to argue....It doesn't gain anything......it is just my opinion, that is shared by millions.  Your opinion is shared by millions. 
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 18, 2018, 01:37:32 PM
Ex & PH
No one is saying or disagreeing that the Russian government has tried to interfere with the election.  NO ONE.


Trump did not make himself clear on stage, but has made himself clear now.  Yes, he did look foolish, but has retracted his "mis-speaking".


He is NOT a clear and present danger to our democracy.  THAT is political Hyperbole!!  Trump has made it clear he has full faith and support on our intelligence conclusion.


My question to you is, why is it NOW a concern, when the Obama administration had received multiple warnings from national security officials between 2014 and 2016 that the Kremlin was ramping up its intelligence operations and building disinformation networks it could use to disrupt the U.S. political system, according to more than half a dozen current and former officials.

I believe it is MORE Trump hatred that fuels this crap.....I get it!  YOU guys hate him.

Our relationship with our allies are NOT in jeopardy..that is just more political posturing. 

Also, I agree that Putin is NOT a friend of the US.  Putin is evil, as far as I am concerned.  But, Trump having talks with him isn't a BAD THING. I thought diplomacy is important?  Trump talking to Kim has been more good than bad.  I am not opposed to TRYING to develop a better relationship with Russia, but I am not holding my breath.

For the record, I am not an idiot (though I'm sure disagree) and I especially am not a traitor (that is asinine!).......I know it is your opinion and MY OPINION is that kind of rhetoric is why we are being divided.  There is so much hatred right now....if Trump is as bad as you think, it will reflect in Nov. and he will not be re-elected in 2020.

Okay, I really don't want to argue....It doesn't gain anything......it is just my opinion, that is shared by millions.  Your opinion is shared by millions.

  WHAT YOU JUST SAID IS BULLSHIT, PURE BULLSHIT.

  If the devil was live and well in this world it would be Putin.  Trump worships him and you worship Trump.  Yes, we hate Trump, why?  Because we hate idiots and fools in power.  How's that, moron? :angry:   :rant:

Exterminator

The extent to which the Russian misinformation campaign worked on a segment of the American population is mind boggling.  Even now, with the knowledge that it was done and that they unwittingly helped by propagating the lies, they continue to do so.  And they call us gullible sheep.   :rolleyes:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on July 19, 2018, 12:42:02 PM
The extent to which the Russian misinformation campaign worked on a segment of the American population is mind boggling.  Even now, with the knowledge that it was done and that they unwittingly helped by propagating the lies, they continue to do so.  And they call us gullible sheep.   :rolleyes:
Give me an example of their misinformation that was a lie...
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 19, 2018, 01:05:31 PM
Give me an example of their misinformation that was a lie...

Google, "Russian disinformation examples."

Trump's constant attacks on the intelligence community and the special counsel are some homegrown examples.  They are specifically designed to make people believe that these organizations are inherently corrupt so that, in the event someone in his inner circle gets indicted, he can claim the evidence is fabricated.  He says it, Fox News promotes it, people like you believe and spread it.  None of it is true.

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 19, 2018, 01:05:31 PM
Give me an example of their misinformation that was a lie...

  For one thing,every thing your asshole Republican Dirty Trick Team said about Hillary.

  The Republican Party spent million of dollars of taxpayer money trying to pin something on her.  But all of it blew up in their face.  You assholes could not pin her on one item that was a crime.

  Everything we have said about Trump has been proven true.  You're going to find out Trump is guilty of collusion and treason plus dealing with the enemy.  Put that in you marijuana pipe and smoke it Bird Boy.   :yes: :biggrin:

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on July 19, 2018, 01:42:32 PM
Google, "Russian disinformation examples."

Trump's constant attacks on the intelligence community and the special counsel are some homegrown examples.  They are specifically designed to make people believe that these organizations are inherently corrupt so that, in the event someone in his inner circle gets indicted, he can claim the evidence is fabricated.  He says it, Fox News promotes it, people like you believe and spread it.  None of it is true.


You honestly think there is NO corruption by the head of the FBI...you beleive Comey, Strzok, Brennan and McCabe are all squeaky clean?  Do you ever watch FoxNews are do  you just assume it is all bad news? 
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

AbbyTC

In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. Robert Frost

Perhaps the butterfly is proof that you can go through a great deal of darkness yet become something beautiful.

Locutus

One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

Quote from: Exterminator on July 18, 2018, 07:21:09 AM
One must speak to one's respective audience in a language that audience can understand.  It has been 100% proven that there was a concerted (and successful!) effort by the Russian government to influence the outcome of the 2016 election.  Anyone who thinks that Trump, standing on the international stage, throwing the United States, its citizens, its media and its intelligence community under the bus in subservience to Putin while denying those facts isn't a clear and present danger to democracy, not just here but across the globe, is either a traitor or a complete idiot.  Which are you?

Putin hates the United States.  He has since the fall of the Soviet Union, having seen that as a loss to the Americans in a war he had fought his entire life.  If you were him, what would your goals be?  Further dividing the U.S.?  Calling into question the validity of our electoral process and, in doing so, democracy itself?  The loss of faith in our trusted institutions by the American people?  Seeing our relationships with our closest allies erode?  Fracturing the NATO alliance?  The erosion of our trade relationships with other countries which will eventually negatively affect our economy?  All of these things are happening and Trump is helping him to accomplish those goals. 

Wake the fuck up.

Good words.  Couldn't have said it better myself.
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

The Troll


Palehorse

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville