The Indianapolis Colts have placed cornerback Marlin Jackson on injured reserve and filled his roster spot by signing free agent defensive end Josh Thomas.
The club also announced that on Thursday wide receiver Anthony Gonzalez underwent arthroscopic right knee surgery to "clean out loose particles" and safety Bob Sanders visited Dr. James Andrews to get an opinion on the left elbow injury Sanders suffered on Sunday against San Francisco.
http://www.indystar.com/article/20091106/SPORTS03/91106011/Injuries+sideline+three+key+Colts (http://www.indystar.com/article/20091106/SPORTS03/91106011/Injuries+sideline+three+key+Colts)
Okay, so now the Colts are going to be taken down a notch or two, and at 7 - 0 the field is going to be somewhat leveled a bit. Last weeks dismal performance could be followed with even worse. . . This week they face Houston, who historically have given the Colts some problems. Their time as undefeated may indeed be ending right soon. . .
Damned! :spooked:
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Did anyone see the special ceromonies for "Sweetness" Walter Payton at the half time last week, honoring the 10th anniversary of his death?
It was pretty cool.... 8)
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Damned! :spooked:
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outrageous!!!...
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 06, 2009, 12:56:54 PM
Did anyone see the special ceromonies for "Sweetness" Walter Payton at the half time last week, honoring the 10th anniversary of his death?
It was pretty cool.... 8)
Nope missed that one somehow. . . :'(
Sayers and Payton were among my favorite Bears. . .
The Colts are 9 - 0 and should be 8 - 1, but for a massive brain fart by the Patriots last night! It's a wonder there wasn't a mass die off of Colts fans due to the resultant overwhelming amounts of methane produced by Belichicks flatulence!
Down 31 -14 early in the 4th quarter, I personally had written off the Colts. Manning had a bad case of the chokes, throwing what the on air announcers called "ducks", and it was clear the Pats had the defense figured out from the opening drive of the game. I resigned myself to finally getting the season's first loss under our belts, and just hoped that the thrashing would miraculously be minimized somehow.
Nobody, and I mean nobody, gives Manning the ball with 2 minutes left unless they can drive them back against their own goal line. Even then it is a huge gamble, but one worth taking when there's a lot of green between him and the end zone. Last night Belichick must have somehow forgotten that maxim and assumed his high octane offense could gain 2 yards on 4th down. He lost that gamble and Manning made him pay for it with a quick pass to Wayne, and a loss by 1 point.
Now who is going to serve up the Colts their first loss?
Quote from: Palehorse on November 16, 2009, 11:42:21 AM
The Colts are 9 - 0 and should be 8 - 1, but for a massive brain fart by the Patriots last night! It's a wonder there wasn't a mass die off of Colts fans due to the resultant overwhelming amounts of methane produced by Belichicks flatulence!
Down 31 -14 early in the 4th quarter, I personally had written off the Colts. Manning had a bad case of the chokes, throwing what the on air announcers called "ducks", and it was clear the Pats had the defense figured out from the opening drive of the game. I resigned myself to finally getting the season's first loss under our belts, and just hoped that the thrashing would miraculously be minimized somehow.
Nobody, and I mean nobody, gives Manning the ball with 2 minutes left unless they can drive them back against their own goal line. Even then it is a huge gamble, but one worth taking when there's a lot of green between him and the end zone. Last night Belichick must have somehow forgotten that maxim and assumed his high octane offense could gain 2 yards on 4th down. He lost that gamble and Manning made him pay for it with a quick pass to Wayne, and a loss by 1 point.
Now who is going to serve up the Colts their first loss?
as much as I despise Belichick...I think he made a gutsy move, that IF it works, he looks like a genius and if it don't...well..you get this...IF he punts, there is a very good chance they lose....Manning THRIVE on these situations....
Even though the Titans are sucking hind booby.....I fear those guys as much as anyone....Fisher ALWAYS pulls out ALL OF THE tricks when he has too....and the Colts can easliy take them lightly, enough to be served an embarrassing loss....BUT, they have to win two more tough games to get to them.....but that is MY prediction.
Quote from: Palehorse on November 16, 2009, 11:42:21 AM
The Colts are 9 - 0 and should be 8 - 1, but for a massive brain fart by the Patriots Belichick last night!
FTFY. ;D
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 16, 2009, 11:51:07 AM
as much as I despise Belichick...I think he made a gutsy move...
That's what you said about Bush and the Iraq war and it worked out the same way. Stupidity and guts are not the same thing. :razz:
Well, the Squeelers lost in OT to the Chiefs; and Hamburgler got his bell rung and knocked out of the game. :biggrin:
The Colts squeaked out another one over the Ravens, going 10 - 0, despite playing like a rookie team. Manning once again throwing ducks and the Ravens had the shotguns. They couldn't manage anything but field goals (Ravens), and that was not enough. Colts by 2. :smile:
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!! :mad:
Quote from: kimmi on November 22, 2009, 05:19:32 PM
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!! :mad:
I know kimmi. I can't believe they lost that game.
The San Diego Chargers are alone atop the AFC West!
And the bears are in the process of being skinned by the Eagles! :biggrin:
so where is the bear meat market?
Quote from: Elaine on November 22, 2009, 09:42:05 PM
so where is the bear meat market?
Rush Street in Chicago, Il. . . :razz:
Good MNF matchup tonight. I can't believe I'm going to say this, but "Go Patriots!"
Bring on the cold beer, chicken wings, and Monday Night Football. :food15: :food5:
I plan on cracking a few Guinness myself, and enjoying some home grilled (leftover) BBQ Babyback ribs that I plan on nuking.
I am torn on this one. On one hand I want the Pats to beat the Saints and leave the Colts as the only undefeated team. (For now). On the other hand I detest the Pats and feel like a traitor if I pull for them for any reason!
Secretly I am hoping Brady gets his ass handed to him; literally! :icon_twisted:
I'mma just enjoy the game and pound down a few beers. (I stayed home from my wife's bowling night just so I can watch the game from start to finish!) :biggrin:
Sounds good PH! I'm heading over to the sports bar right around the corner from the house for $5 pitchers and 25 cent wings. It doesn't get any better than that.
Oh yes it does! It's in walking distance so I don't have to worry about driving. :beers: ;D
Although the Saints remain undefeated and share their 11-0 record with the Colts, they soundly man handled the Pats from start to finish. :biggrin:
Although the Pats came out scoring a TD on their initial possession, it was field goals from there and only a few at that.
Brees threw for 5 touchdowns, and the Saints defense gave Brady hell all night long! 8)
With the remaining schedule for the Saints they have a very strong potential for going 16-0 in the regular season, while the Colts struggle to find a way to win each and every game they have left.
The best shot of the game was one of Brady and Belichick standing side by side with befuddled looks on their faces and 5 minutes left in the game. The Pats had surrendered, placing their backup QB into the game with a score of 38-17 on the board in the 4th quarter. I giggled like a little girl at that one.
The Saints looked unstoppable against the Pats, totally unstoppable. :yes: :spooked: And if the Pats don't take the Colts out the Saints will!
Those damn Saints got lucky again yesterday. Call reversed by the booth in overtime giving them the ball, and they kick a field goal for the win.
Quote from: Locutus on December 07, 2009, 12:32:04 PM
Those damn Saints got lucky again yesterday. Call reversed by the booth in overtime giving them the ball, and they kick a field goal for the win.
Yup. I just cannot believe anyone left in their schedule has a chance of beating them either!
14 12/13/2009 @ Atlanta * 1:00PM FOX (Nope - Young is too Young)
15 12/19/2009 Dallas 8:20PM NFLN (MAYBE if Romo shows up)
16 12/27/2009 Tampa Bay * 1:00PM FOX (Highly doubt it)
17 1/3/2010 @ Carolina * 1:00PM FOX (Fuggetaboudit)
:@#%&: :wait: I don't want to talk about it. :bang: :groan:
Quote from: kimmi on December 07, 2009, 05:14:27 PM
:@#%&: :wait: I don't want to talk about it. :bang: :groan:
I bet not. . . Hamburgler isn't doin too well is he? :razz: :biggrin:
The pack (aka-cheese-heads) are raven hunting this evening. . . :biggrin:
Yes they are! Been watchin' the game myself. :yes:
Go Pack!
Hey Kim! Your Steelers should snap that losing streak tonight against the Browns. :yes:
Quote from: Locutus on December 10, 2009, 03:32:31 PM
Hey Kim! Your Steelers should snap that losing streak tonight against the Browns. :yes:
:rotfl: :waaa:
Is that a waaaaaammmmmbulance? ;D
Quote from: Locutus on December 10, 2009, 06:29:16 PM
Is that a waaaaaammmmmbulance? ;D
:biggrin: :yes: :biggrin: :angel:
Quote from: Locutus on December 10, 2009, 03:32:31 PM
Hey Kim! Your Steelers should snap that losing streak tonight against the Browns. :yes:
....or maybe not. Pittsburgh looks like sheet.
Let's Go Saints!
Changing it up? :biggrin:
Sorry about your Steelers Kim.
I guess I'll just watch hockey instead. Oh wait my Canes suck too! :rant:
The Colts move to 13 - 0 with a sluggish trouncing of the Broncos - The Saints fans have come out of their respective bags, and burned them while they are at it, as their once disrespected team also moved to a 13 - 0 milestone this season. . .
The Eagles are presently out Giant hunting, and finding no small measure of success in this endeavor early in the hunt. . .
This Thursday Colts fans get a brief respite from the oppression minded NFL, as they take on Jacksonville. The game will be televised by our "favorite" network Faux Sports! :rolleyes:
(CNN) -- Cincinnati Bengals wide receiver Chris Henry suffered "life-threatening injuries" after falling out of the bed of a pickup during a fight with his fiancee, police in Charlotte, North Carolina, said Wednesday.
The incident occurred shortly before noon Wednesday, when Henry's fiancee tried to drive off during a "domestic situation," only to have Henry jump into the bed of the truck, the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department said in a written statement.
"The domestic situation continued between the operator and Mr. Henry," according to a police statement. Henry "came out of the back of the vehicle" about six-tenths of a mile from the house, police said.
Henry was believed to be in critical condition after the wreck, the Bengals said in a statement on their Web site. Police said Henry was undergoing treatment at the Carolinas Medical Center hospital in Charlotte.
Charlotte is the home of his fiancee's family, the team said.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/12/16/bengals.henry/index.html
Ya' know, if you're gonna' have a fight with your fiancee, you'd best not do it in the back of a pickup truck.
Dumbass.
DEAD!!!.. :no:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 17, 2009, 10:01:10 AM
DEAD!!!.. :no:
Quote from: Locutus on December 16, 2009, 11:05:55 PM
(CNN) -- Cincinnati Bengals wide receiver Chris Henry suffered "life-threatening injuries" after falling out of the bed of a pickup during a fight with his fiancee, police in Charlotte, North Carolina, said Wednesday.
The incident occurred shortly before noon Wednesday, when Henry's fiancee tried to drive off during a "domestic situation," only to have Henry jump into the bed of the truck, the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department said in a written statement.
"The domestic situation continued between the operator and Mr. Henry," according to a police statement. Henry "came out of the back of the vehicle" about six-tenths of a mile from the house, police said.
Henry was believed to be in critical condition after the wreck, the Bengals said in a statement on their Web site. Police said Henry was undergoing treatment at the Carolinas Medical Center hospital in Charlotte.
Charlotte is the home of his fiancee's family, the team said.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/12/16/bengals.henry/index.html
Ya' know, if you're gonna' have a fight with your fiancee, you'd best not do it in the back of a pickup truck.
Dumbass.
He may be!
HE IS....
Yup!
Cincinnati Bengals receiver Chris Henry has died from injuries sustained in an automobile accident, Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police announced Thursday morning.
Henry suffered severe head injuries after falling out of the rear end of a truck Wednesday afternoon, and remained on life support before finally succumbing to his injuries at 6:36 a.m. ET Thursday morning at Carolinas Medical Center. Henry, who was 26 years old, leaves behind his fiancée Loleini Tonga, and three children: 3-year-old Seini, 2-year old Chris Jr. and 10-month old DeMarcus.
Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police detectives have been investigating Wednesday's events, which were described as a "domestic situation" involving Henry and Tonga. According to police, a dispute at a Charlotte-area home led to Tonga leaving the residence in a truck. Henry jumped into the bed of the vehicle and then fell into the street nearly a half mile from the home. When police and paramedics responded to the scene, police said Henry had suffered life-threatening injuries, including severe head trauma.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=cr-chrishenrydies121709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
Colts at Jacksonville 8 PM this evening.
The Colts are going to rest some players although I doubt they'll lost to J'ville even given that fact.
I dunno, the Jags have given them a hard time in the past and I don't look for tonight to be any different. They seem to lose to the least probable opponents. . .with regularity!
Going to watch the game with beer in hand?? ;D
Quote from: Locutus on December 17, 2009, 06:54:30 PM
Going to watch the game with beer in hand?? ;D
Probably not with a beer. I celebrated a lil too much last night and am nursing a bit of a hangover. . . :biggrin:
But I'll be watching it for sure. :yes:
Beer helps hangovers. :sneaky: :icon_twisted:
Quote from: Locutus on December 17, 2009, 07:01:04 PM
Beer helps hangovers. :sneaky: :icon_twisted:
Tequila works better for me, but I have an early wake up tomorrow so that's out. Tylenol and sleep is what I need. But I did have a TON of breaded and fried butterfly shrimp already. (Finished the last one before I came back here). That grease ball should do a fine job of absorbing any leftovers and after sleeping I will be one Venti White Chocolate Mocha from being 110% once again! :biggrin:
That's awesome PH. ;D
And as you can see if you are watching, the Jags are giving the Colts a hard time. :rolleyes:
Well the Colts are still undefeated since the Jacksonville quarterback missed two wide open receivers and threw to two apparent ghosts on critical drives and downs late in the game! :mad:
Manning is without a doubt the BEST QB in the NFL....and possibly of ALL-TIME...and we colt fans have such a nice luxury of having the opportunity to sit back and enjoy watching him EVERY week...
Quote from: Locutus on December 17, 2009, 11:35:42 PM
Well the Colts are still undefeated since the Jacksonville quarterback missed two wide open receivers and threw to two apparent ghosts on critical drives and downs late in the game! :mad:
Despite those "ducks" Garrard threw in quarter 4, had they come away with 7 instead of 3 on that initial drive, they'd have been tied and the game would have at least went into OT.
The Colts looked flat, despite the offensive production. The defense was lazy, rarely got their usual level of pressure on Garrard, and the D "twins" were lame. . .
They had better get some rest and prepare for the last two games, lest they get rode hard and put away wet at season's end. . . :spooked:
Jags had nothing to lose and everything to gain.
Colts, just the opposite, except for shutting jax out of the wild card picture.
I'm thinkin' they were playing to keep in the rhythm, but not to suffer injuries.
Peyton, however, is the consummate competitor. He'd rather die than lose.
The Cowboys served up the first loss of the season for the Saints this evening, leaving the Colts the only remaining unbeaten team thus far. Will the Colts make it through?
Giants or Redskins?
Quote from: Locutus on December 21, 2009, 06:27:04 PM
Giants or Redskins?
Giants. . .They have a Manniing. . . :icon_twisted: :biggrin2:
Yeah, and the Redskins suck. I'm surprised that Dan Snyder hasn't offed Jim Zorn already. He's offed others for less. :yes:
Quote from: Locutus on December 21, 2009, 06:33:04 PM
Yeah, and the Redskins suck. I'm surprised that Dan Snyder hasn't offed Jim Zorn already. He's offed others for less. :yes:
Probably just waiting so he can blame the whole dismal season totally on him! :rolleyes:
Talk about dismal! I haven't seen such an ugly performance by a team in a LONG time as what I watched from the Redskins tonight. WTH was that shift play about that they tried twice during the end of the first half??
Ugly, ugly, ugly!!!
Quote from: Locutus on December 21, 2009, 11:56:11 PM
Talk about dismal! I haven't seen such an ugly performance by a team in a LONG time as what I watched from the Redskins tonight. WTH was that shift play about that they tried twice during the end of the first half??
Ugly, ugly, ugly!!!
Desperation I would say! LOL!
Q. What's the difference between the Chicago Bears & the Taliban?
A. The Taliban has a running game!
Q. What do the Chicago Bears & Billy Graham have in common?
A. They both can make a stadium full of people stand up & yell "Jesus Christ."
Q. How do you keep a Chicago Bears player out of your yard?
A.. Put up goal posts.
Q. Where do you go in Chicago in case of a tornado?
A. Soldier Field - they never get a touchdown there.
Q. Why doesn't Rockford have a professional football team?
A. Because then Chicago would want one.
Q. Why was Lovie Smith upset when the Bears playbook was stolen?
A. Because he hadn't finished coloring it.
Q. What's the difference between the Chicago Bears & a dollar bill?
A. You can still get four quarters out of a dollar bill..
Q. What do you call 47 people sitting around a TV watching the Super Bowl?
A. The Chicago Bears.
Q.. What do the Chicago Bears & possums have in common?
A. Both play dead at home & get killed on the road.
Q.. How can you tell when the Chicago Bears are going to run the football?
A. Forte leaves the huddle with tears in his eyes.
:biggrin2: :biggrin2: :biggrin2: :biggrin2:
:rotfl:
I think I know a few people who are gonna' get a copy of that. :biggrin2:
Justice in Chicago Il . December2, 2009.........(AP) -
A seven-year old boy was at the center of a Cook County courtroom drama yesterday when he challenged a court ruling over who should have custody of him. The boy has a history of being beaten by his parents and the judge initially awarded custody to his aunt, in keeping with child custody law and regulation requiring that family unity be maintained to the highest degree possible ..
The boy surprised the court when he proclaimed that his aunt beat him more than his parents and he adamantly refused to live with her. When the judge then suggested that he live with his grandparents, the boy cried and said that they also beat him. After considering the remainder of the immediate family and learning that domestic violence was apparently a way of life among them, the judge took the unprecedented step of allowing the boy to propose who should have custody of him .
After two recesses to check legal references and confer with the child welfare officials , the judge granted temporary custody to the Chicago Bears Football Team , whom the boy firmly believes are not capable of beating anyone..
:grinch: :grinch: :grinch: :grinch:
OUCH!!!.. :spooked:
Quote from: Locutus on December 23, 2009, 01:54:02 PM
:rotfl:
I think I know a few people who are gonna' get a copy of that. :biggrin2:
:icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:
I e mailed it to my son already! :biggrin:
Well the Dolts, err Colts, rolled over and took one up the 6 yesterday, thanks to the idiots that make the decisions within the organization. They sat the starters, for the most part, starting about mid 3rd quarter.
I watched a late night edition of a local sports program and they showed Jeff Saturday (Colts Center) and he wasn't very happy about things. He said in part, "We are professional players and we play every game to win. I play every game to win each week, and the decision is not one I agree with".
He was one of the few who didn't adopt the company line about making sure everyone is healthy in the playoffs.
How many times does a professional player in any sport get the opportunity to accumulate an unbeaten record (season) in their careers? How many teams have ever accomplished it? Not many, two in football; the 72 Fish and the Pats. The year the Pats did it they blew it in the playoffs. . .But they still had the unbeaten record to crow about.
If the Colts go one and out in the playoffs the management is going to look like the biggest idiots in the NFL, and there are plenty of idiots in the game anyway. Too bad Indy is going to lay claim to the top position in the league! :rolleyes: :rant:
I still say it wouldn't matter if they went 16-0 in the regular season or not, because I don't see them making it to the Super Bowl unless something goes awry with the other contenders. The Colts (despite their record) arent' the best team in the AFC. :no:
I agree PH..........not many people can tell you who won the SB 21 or even two years ago........but there are plenty who can tell you who had perfect seasons...........
I think this takes away the fire and grit that these players had........and now, these guys will never know it they was "good enough" to accomplish an amazing task....at least the Bears went 15 and 1 during their stint and lost - fair and square.....
Quote from: Locutus on December 28, 2009, 01:37:32 PM
I still say it wouldn't matter if they went 16-0 in the regular season or not, because I don't see them making it to the Super Bowl unless something goes awry with the other contenders. The Colts (despite their record) arent' the best team in the AFC. :no:
I disagree.....their defense is playing better or as well as anyone in the league and Manning is having a stellar season...and they have MANY, MANY weapons on offense.....I think it is theirs to lose.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 28, 2009, 01:43:19 PM
I disagree.....their defense is playing better or as well as anyone in the league and Manning is having a stellar season...and they have MANY, MANY weapons on offense.....I think it is theirs to lose.
I think the Chargers will take 'em out if somebody else doesn't do it first. :razz:
Peyton Manning's face spoke volumes about how he really felt about being pulled with a 5 point lead, deep in their own end in the 3rd quarter. He and virtually all of the starters, were not happy campers. But they were good sheep and spewed the company line when asked how they felt about it in the post game interviews. Almost to a man, except for Saturday.
What highly skilled player is going to want to play for an organization that:
a) Doesn't care about its fans and the fact they pay top dollar to see their favorites perform?
b) Doesn't care enough about their players, their motivation, and their stats, to allow them to accomplish what few in their profession can lay claim to?
No, the Colts organization doesn't care about the fans, which was obvious when they arrived in those Mayflower trucks after sneaking out in the dark of night from Baltimore. One has to think, when are they going to do the same thing to Indy?
The only thing they care about are the double+ ticket prices they get to charge during the playoff games. To hell with the fans, and to hell with the players. (Allowing them to achieve a perfect record gives them another bargaining chip in any contract negotiations that may be forthcoming doesn't it?)
Good thing this next play dead session is in Buffalo. A lot of season ticket holders would probably give away their tickets if ti was a home game; if they could find anyone to give them to!
Quote from: Locutus on December 28, 2009, 01:37:32 PM
I still say it wouldn't matter if they went 16-0 in the regular season or not, because I don't see them making it to the Super Bowl unless something goes awry with the other contenders. The Colts (despite their record) arent' the best team in the AFC. :no:
While all of that may be true, if they go one or two and out now they have a built in excuse don't they? Their karma was disrupted by a greedy and stupid decision of management. I don't care what sport you are talking about, players are superstitious to a degree. You roll over and take it and from that point on it is three times as hard to get your mojo back. It wasn't broke so why try to fix it? They ask these guys to play through injuries all season long don't they? Why change now? (Hint: Ticket prices, the gate)
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 28, 2009, 01:43:19 PM
I disagree.....their defense is playing better or as well as anyone in the league and Manning is having a stellar season...and they have MANY, MANY weapons on offense.....I think it is theirs to lose.
"Was / Were" - all that is out the window now. They broke the chain and they will choke in the playoffs. Watch.
Quote from: Palehorse on December 28, 2009, 01:51:04 PM
"Was / Were" - all that is out the window now. They broke the chain and they will choke in the playoffs. Watch.
I don't totally disagree with this.......but, I think, Manning and Company have won 23 regular season games, because they are just THAT good....and they do have such a desire to win....but, I do think this could hurt their rhythm....
Next controversy; the proposal to go to an 18 game regular season.
Doing so will result in nothing more than a lot more meaningless games in which the teams can charge top dollar to its fans to see second rate rookies try to learn how to knock the snot out of each other and play grab the greased pig.
If they care so much about the players well being, why are they ignoring the retired and crippled players upon whose shoulders their present empire was built?
They run around the country strong arming the citizens of this nation, forcing them to pay for their bejeweled palaces via taxation, charge a small fortune for the right to sit in a seat and watch a game, and then deny the very people who validate and pay for their existence the right to see the best players play.
I hope the NFL Players
do strike in 2011, because it will mean the end of the NFL and its God complex! :rant:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 28, 2009, 01:57:06 PM
I don't totally disagree with this.......but, I think, Manning and Company have won 23 regular season games, because they are just THAT good....and they do have such a desire to win....but, I do think this could hurt their rhythm....
"Could" is an understatement. Manning and company thrive on reps and success. Look how they started the season last year when Manning missed the preseason and training camp. He and his team sitting on the bench over the next 3 weeks is going to ruin everything they had going. Manning was already getting rusty which was evident in the last 2 weeks of play; overthrows, ducks, and interceptions. Clark and Wayne dropped passes yesterday that they've caught all season long.
Historically they've been slow starters and a second half team, and that is totally unacceptable in the playoffs. 3 weeks will drain their stamina and they'll be sucking for wind in the second half of the first playoff game. . . I don't care how many drills the coaches put them through in the next 3 weeks. They've already broken the chain, and they'll pay the price for it now.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 28, 2009, 01:57:06 PM
I don't totally disagree with this.......but, I think, Manning and Company have won 23 regular season games, because they are just THAT good....and they do have such a desire to win....but, I do think this could hurt their rhythm....
Let's also look at the Colts' season to date and who they've played:
Week 1: Colts 14 Jaguars 12 <--- Not a very stellar performance against a crappy team, but it's early in the season.
Week 2: Colts 27 Dolphins 23 <--- Again, not a very good performance against a team, like the Jaguars, who have losing record.
Week 3: Colts 31 Cardinals 10 <--- This one's ok. Cardinals are pretty good and have a winning record.
Week 4: Colts 34 Seahawks 17 <--- Again, they whip up on a crappy team. Seattle's record is losing as well. They're 5-10
Week 5: Colts 31 Titans 9 <--- Beat another team with a losing record. The Titans are 7-9.
Week 6: (Bye)
Week 7: Colts 42 Rams 6 <--- A pattern develops. Whipping another crappy team with a losing record. Rams are 1-14
Week 8: Colts 18 49ers 14 <--- Squeaked by a team with a losing record. 49ers are 7-8
Week 9: Colts 20 Texans 17 <--- Again, squeaking by in a close game against a mediocre team, with barely a winning record.
Week 10: Colts 35 Patriots 34 <--- Patriots have a winning record and the Colts would have lost this game had it not been for that purely stupid move by Bill Belichick
Week 11: Colts 17 Ravens 15 <--- Squeaked by again against a team with barely a winning record. The Ravens are 8-7
Week 12: Colts 35 Texans 27 <--- Again, Texans are 8-7. Barely a winning record.
Week 13: Colts 27 Titans 17 <---- Only a 10 point win against a team with a losing record.
Week 14: Colts 28 Broncos 16 <---- A win, but again against a mediocre team. The Broncos are 8-7.
Week 15: Colts 35 Jaguars 31 <---- See above comments in the first game.
From the above, in the 15 weeks that the Colts went undefeated, who did they really play? They had an easy schedule and of the 14 games they won, only 2 were against teams with real winning records (and they were handed one of those wins), 4 were against teams that barely have a winning record, and a whopping 8 of those games were against crappy teams with losing records.
I'm sorry, but given that, I don't see how the claim can be made that they're the best team in the AFC. Not by a long shot. I see trouble for them in the playoffs. Like PH said, depending on how the chips fall, they may go out in divisional round. The only thing that's good for them is that it's a certainty that won't see the Chargers in the divisional round.
Quote from: Palehorse on December 28, 2009, 02:05:21 PM
Next controversy; the proposal to go to an 18 game regular season.
I think the season is long enough as it is...and I agree that this is simply a way for the league more money....I think they should cut the pre-season down to two....keep it at 16 games for the season...and end the season a couple of weeks earlier than now....
Week 1: Colts 14 Jaguars 12 <--- Manning was 38 attempts for 28 completions... 73.7% - 301yards
Reggie Wayne...162 Yards
Week 2: Colts 27 Dolphins 23 <--- Manning had 303 yards with a 133.9 QB rating...
Dallas Clark 183 yards....
Week 3: Colts 31 Cardinals 10 <--- Manning threw 379 yards and 4 touchdowns...
Reggie Wayne 126 yards..
Week 4: Colts 34 Seahawks 17 <--- Manning threw 353 yards and 2 touchdowns...
Week 5: Colts 31 Titans 9 <--- Manning threw 309 yards and 3 touchdowns...
Week 6: (Bye)
Week 7: Colts 42 Rams 6 <--- Manning....three more touchdowns..
Week 8: Colts 18 49ers 14 <--- Manning threw 327 yards and 4 touchdowns...
Reggie Wayne - 147 yards...
Week 9: Colts 20 Texans 17 <--- Manning threw 318 yards and Dallas Clark had 119 receiving
Week 10: Colts 35 Patriots 34 <--- Manning threw 379 yards and 4 touchdowns...
Week 11: Colts 17 Ravens 15 <--- Manning threw 299 yards..
Week 12: Colts 35 Texans 27 <--- Again, Texans are 8-7. Barely a winning record....and the Colts WON!
Week 13: Colts 27 Titans 17 <---- Only a 10 point win against a team that has been competitive all year and the COLTS WON.
Week 14: Colts 28 Broncos 16 <---- A win, but again against a mediocre team. The Broncos are 8-7...and the COLTS WON!
Week 15: Colts 35 Jaguars 31 <---- to a team who is ALWAYS ready to play the colts, but yet ...THE COLTS WON!
The bottom line is....the Colts have played 23 season games in a row and have WON!......very tough to do playing ANY NFL teams...because they are a very, very good team, lead by the BEST QB in NFL....
Good teams find a way to win...and THAT is what the Colts have done ALL year....
Their Defense is 5th in the AFC in giving up points per game.....at 18.
3rd in touchdowns behind the Jets and Ravens.
5th in Sacks...
2nd in tackles...
On Offense they are 3rd in total yards..
1st in passing yards...in the NFL.
2nd in scoring...
1st in touchdowns....(2nd in the NFL)
2nd in receiving...
and they have the number one Offensive Line in the NFL....giving up only 12 sacks for the year.
Again HH, against teams with largely losing records. You can shine when you're not playing anybody decent. We saw what happened to them when they played the Patriots. They were going to lose had Belichick not made that stupid call. And they've squeaked by against less. If I were there in Indy, I would make a friendly wager with you. I don't see the Colts making it to the Super Bowl. I see them making an exit possibly prior to the AFC championship game.
Quote from: Locutus on December 28, 2009, 03:31:45 PM
Again HH, against teams with largely losing records. You can shine when you're not playing anybody decent. We saw what happened to them when they played the Patriots. They were going to lose had Belichick not made that stupid call. And they've squeaked by against less. If I were there in Indy, I would make a friendly wager with you. I don't see the Colts making it to the Super Bowl. I see them making an exit possibly prior to the AFC championship game.
I'm not a betting guy...and I know ANYTHING can happen, once playoff's start...one can argue that Belichick MADE that stupid call, because he DID NOT want to give the ball BACK to Manning....because the Colts know how to WIN....all I am saying is,....this team is damn good and they know how to win.....when they HAVE to....and they SHOULD have played like it yesterday....
and statisticaly they are tops in the league....
I think San Diego and New England are Always a threat....and I would not get cocky against any team they will face....but, I think they have proved they
can beat ANYBODY
Quote from: Locutus on December 28, 2009, 02:14:24 PM
The only thing that's good for them is that it's a certainty that won't see the Chargers in the divisional round.
have you looked at the Charger schedule this year....five of their wins was by a touchdown or less....they beat Oakland (5-10) twice and KC (3-12) twice...they squeaked pass Dallas, Phil, and Cin...the only REAL tough teams they have faced.....so, the same argument can be made against them....
don't get me wrong...I think SD is a very good football team...but it is not like they are BETTER than the colts.
Quote from: Locutus on December 28, 2009, 02:14:24 PM
Let's also look at the Pats' season to date and who they've played:
Week 1: Pats 25 Buf 24 <--- SQEEEEEEK!
Week 2: Pats 9 Jets 16 <--- Lost to a mediocre team....
Week 3: Pats 26 Atlanta 10 <--- Beat a mediocre team.....
Week 4: Pats 27 Baltimore 21 <--- Sqeaked past a medioce team (8-7)
Week 5: Pats 17 Denver 20 <--- Lost.
Week 6: Pats 59 Tenn 0 <--- Nice...
Week 7: Pats 35 TB 7 <--- A pattern develops. Whipping another crappy team with a losing record. Bucs are 3-12
Week 8: (Bye)
Week 9: Pats 27 Miami 17 <--- Again, squeaking by in a close game against a mediocre team, with losing record.
Week 10: Pats 34 Colts 35 <--- Blame it on Bilicheck if you want....they STILL lost
Week 11: Pats 31 Jets 17 <--- Squeaked by again against a team with barely a winning record. The Jets are 8-7
Week 12: Pats 17 New Orleans 38 <--- GOT spanked on National TV.. to a REAL football team...
Week 13: Pats 21 Miami 22 <---- Lost to a team with a losing record.
Week 14: Pats 20 Carolina 10 <---- A win, but again against a losing team. The Panthers are 7-8.
Week 15: Pats 35 Jaguars 7 <---- beat another team with a losing record...7-8.
From the above, in the 15 weeks that the Pats ahve NOT went undefeated, and yet, who did they really play? They had an easy schedule and of the 10 games they won, only 1 was against teams with real winning records, the rest were against teams that barely have a winning record, or were against crappy teams with losing records.
I'm sorry, but given that, I don't see how they claim can be made that they're the best team in the AFC. Not by a long shot. I see trouble for them in the playoffs. Like PH said, depending on how the chips fall, they may go out in divisional round.
Sorry HH, the Pats aren't my team. I don't like cheaters and that's what I think they are. :no:
I think the Chargers are going to the Super Bowl from the AFC this year. I could be wrong; we'll see in a few weeks. ;D
I'm outta' here later to watch the last Monday night game of the season. I always hate the last MNF game of the season because I know it'll be 8 months or so before they're back. :(
I'll watch it from the confines of the local bowling alley, swilling Guinness! :biggrin2:
Hear, hear!!!
:food4:
In the local press I have read where some are asking for a refund from this last home game. The comments for and against are across the range of possibilities, but the most common against it has been it is the owners/managements job to make the call surrounding who plays, etc., and the usual fan degrading flotsam.
I'm sorry, but once you forced the citizens of this state to pay for your stadium, and suckered them into a sweetheart deal that pretty much rides them hard and puts them away wet, I have to think that with those sacrifices comes a voice in the day to day operation. . . (A small one but a voice none-the-less).
We're paying for your palace and providing you with a generous year round revenue stream. The least you could do is provide the fans with what they paid to see; the best you've got. Unless of course this whole stadium deal was nothing more than a ploy to rip off the taxpayers in exchange for nothing! (You make the call).
you know PH, I tend to agree with you...........IF, they had finished off the season...16 and 0 then lost in the playoffs....I think the FANS would STILL been extremely satisfied with their Colts....especially those who are PAYING to watch them.....I know I personally would have been exteremly pleased...and not only have they let the fans down, they have let the players down...they will NEVER know, "how good" they were....IF, they was good enough to endure such a record.
NOW, that they BLEW that opportunity...........they damn well better win the SB....or they SHOULD be giving refunds to the extremely loyal fans.
I know one thing, I had better not hear/read about them boo-hooing it up when the Luke is filled with the visiting teams fans, or when the season ticket holders refuse to fork over the double+ ticket prices for the ONE playoff game they are going to play this year. . . :rant:
My wife and I removed our names from the season ticket list once the plans on financing for the Luke were revealed. This last game just validates our thinking surrounding the ownership/management of the Colts; one greedy bunch of SOB's.
for me personaly, I WISHED they had gone for the undefeated season.....but, I also have a great deal of respect for Bill Polian.....I think, in hindsite, he may have done things differently...but this man has done NOTHING but wonderful things for the Indianapolis Colts....
He developed the most winning NFL team of the decade...
He has won the NFL's Executive of the Year award 5 times...
He brought us talent such as Peyton Manning, Edgerrin James, Joseph Addai, Reggie Wayne, Brandon Stokley Dwight Freeney, Bob Sanders, Jeff Saturday, Dominic Rhodes, Terrence Wilkins, Raheem Brock, James Mungro, Gary Brackett, Ben Utecht, Ryan Lilja, Melvin Bullitt, Mike Vanderjagt, Adam Vinatieri and of course, Coach Tony Dungy.
He has given us;
6 Division Titles (9 playoff appearances in 11 years)...
1 AFC title game loss...
1 Super Bowl Championship...
We also have a record 27 wins in a row...
A QB who may very well be the Greatest QB to ever play...
And as far as Jim Irsay, he, unlike his father, leaves much of player and game, decisions to be made by his General Manager and Coach...and even though building Lucas Oil Stadium has been very controversial, it will host the Men's and Women's NCAA Basketball Tournaments and will serve as the back up host for all NCAA Final Four Tournaments. The stadium will host the Super Bowl for the 2012 season (Super Bowl XLVI) and has a potential economic impact estimated at $286,000,001. It will also host the Drum Corps International World Championships from 2009 until 2018....
So all in all, I think Jim Irsay and Bill Polian have been a very positive for the city of Indianapolis and the Colts fans of Indiana...So, maybe this last decision to NOT go for the PERFECT season may NOT have been a popular one, but the man who has done SO much for this team and it's fans, might deserve a break, because we may very well be on our way to our second Super Bowl....and THAT, is what every team plays for, in the first place.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 30, 2009, 08:46:20 AM
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And as far as Jim Irsay, he, unlike his father, leaves much of player and game, decisions to be made by his General Manager and Coach...and even though building Lucas Oil Stadium has been very controversial, it will host the Men's and Women's NCAA Basketball Tournaments and will serve as the back up host for all NCAA Final Four Tournaments. The stadium will host the Super Bowl for the 2012 season (Super Bowl XLVI) and has a potential economic impact estimated at $286,000,001. It will also host the Drum Corps International World Championships from 2009 until 2018....
So all in all, I think Jim Irsay and Bill Polian have been a very positive for the city of Indianapolis and the Colts fans of Indiana...So, maybe this last decision to NOT go for the PERFECT season may NOT have been a popular one, but the man who has done SO much for this team and it's fans, might deserve a break, because we may very well be on our way to our second Super Bowl....and THAT, is what every team plays for, in the first place.
And he also brought us the "to hell with the fans" strategy.
As for the hosting of all those events, any idea just who it is that is going to benefit the most from all of that? (Hint: It isn't the city, or taxpayers, nor even the CIB).
The Colts will derive just under 100% of the profits from all revenues generated by the stadium, including parking and food sales, beer, sales, etc., etc., etc.! The only thing the citizens get is the collateral damage!
Quote from: Palehorse on December 30, 2009, 03:25:48 PM
And he also brought us the "to hell with the fans" strategy.
As for the hosting of all those events, any idea just who it is that is going to benefit the most from all of that? (Hint: It isn't the city, or taxpayers, nor even the CIB).
The Colts will derive just under 100% of the profits from all revenues generated by the stadium, including parking and food sales, beer, sales, etc., etc., etc.! The only thing the citizens get is the collateral damage!
but that is NOT Irsay's fault in any way shape or form....He gave $100 million for using it 19 days a year.....Blame the politicians for this...but NOT Irsay....at least that is the way I clearly see it.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 30, 2009, 03:28:08 PM
but that is NOT Irsay's fault in any way shape or form....He gave $100 million for using it 19 days a year.....Blame the politicians for this...but NOT Irsay....at least that is the way I clearly see it.
50/50 blame on both sides of the fence in this one; and
both are 100% to blame for the fleecing of the taxpayers. That crap they just pulled is salt in the gaping wound that stadium left.
Quote from: Palehorse on December 30, 2009, 03:42:13 PM
50/50 blame on both sides of the fence in this one; and both are 100% to blame for the fleecing of the taxpayers. That crap they just pulled is salt in the gaping wound that stadium left.
I too, am pissed at what they did last week, but looking at the big picture.....if NOT for the fine managment, we could very well be the Bears or Bengals.....with humdrum seasons and hoodlums playing for us...
and btw, Irsay did NOT ask for a new stadium, the City approached him....and he divied in $100 mill for 19 days worth of it....seems VERY generous....Irsay is not a politician and had NOTHING to do with WHO else had to belly up their $$$.
Bart Peterson for starters should be hanging his head low on this....but, I fail to see how you can but much of the blame on the Colts.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 30, 2009, 03:56:39 PM
I too, am pissed at what they did last week, but looking at the big picture.....if NOT for the fine managment, we could very well be the Bears or Bengals.....with humdrum seasons and hoodlums playing for us...
and btw, Irsay did NOT ask for a new stadium, the City approached him....and he divied in $100 mill for 19 days worth of it....seems VERY generous....Irsay is not a politician and had NOTHING to do with WHO else had to belly up their $$$.
Bart Peterson for starters should be hanging his head low on this....but, I fail to see how you can but much of the blame on the Colts.
Bull hockey! The Colts organization made it clear to the leadership of Indianapolis that the Dome was not cutting it and they were looking for another venue; including out of state locations. Indpls had to pony up or the Mayflower trucks were going to be scheduled in, just like in Baltimore.
Tell me you don't remember that! :spooked:
Number1: The Colts always say "they appreciate the fans", but not enough to keep them from shoving it up their kiester when it comes to revenue. Ownership knew the deal and what it meant to the fans and taxpayers, and knew all too well it was a sweet-heart deal and they grabbed it. Of course they did. And when you factor in the over runs of the entire project the Colts organization only coughed up 10% of the revenue to pay for the project, and they own the whole thing as far as revenue generation from it goes. The city gets squat, and on top of it they are still paying for the friggin dome too!
It is the same end run ploy the NFL utilizes in holding up the citizens of cities across this country, only this time the "home team" got their cake and get to eat it too.
Everybody yaps about the "multi-uses" of the facility, well the fact remains that had the Colts paid for the entire thing themselves, they'd still realize
exactly what they are getting by paying for only 10% of the costs! The NFL ran their "NFL city" play on the leadership of this state/city of Indpls, then "leaked" the "leaving propaganda" to the fans to get them hyped up and emotional. The rest is history. . .
I blame the Colts, the NFL, and the leadership of this state and the city of Indianapolis. They conspired to fleece the taxpayers of nearly a billion dollars when it is all said and done, (including that stupid convention center). Between the Luke and the CC they will combine to bring about the financial ruin of the city, just watch. The CIB
already cannot afford them, and the Colts yapped to the high heavens when they asked them to pony up to help make up the difference. (Despite the sweet heart deal).
It was all in the press.
QuoteHere is the email sent to Colts' season ticket holders:
Dear Colts Fans:
Much has been reported and communicated about the Colts over the past several months, including several statements which have been either misleading or simply untrue. We would like to set the record straight by sharing with you facts of the Colts' financial contributions to the State of Indiana and the City of Indianapolis and the club's significant investment in the building and on-going operation of Lucas Oil Stadium.
First and foremost, the Indianapolis Colts have not sought in the past, nor is the club currently seeking, any special favors from the CIB, the City of Indianapolis, or the State of Indiana. The Colts never asked for a new stadium. In 2004, the City of Indianapolis approached the Colts about the possibility of a new stadium, not the other way around. The City's need for an expanded convention center and desire to accommodate the NCAA for future Final Fours prompted its exploration of a facility to replace the RCA Dome. At no time did the Colts threaten to leave Indianapolis or otherwise "hold the city hostage."
The Colts negotiated in good faith with the State and the City and eventually entered into a development agreement with the Indiana Stadium and Convention Building Authority (ISCBA), governing the construction of Lucas Oil Stadium, and a lease with the CIB, governing the Colts' use of the stadium.
The Colts made a 30-year commitment to the community. Those written agreements, signed nearly four years ago, committed the team to this community for the next 30 years with no option to renegotiate, regardless of any financial downturns that might arise.
The Colts agreed to take the risk and responsibility to achieve financial success in Indianapolis. The new agreements also removed the financial guarantees for the Colts that existed in our RCA Dome lease that could have cost the city tens of millions of dollars on a regular basis. In essence, the risk of financial success in a small market has been shifted from the city solely to the Colts.
The Colts have been meticulous in meeting and, indeed, often exceeding the requirements of those agreements. We have contributed over $100 Million to the construction of the facility and it is simply untrue for anyone to suggest we don't have "skin in the game."
It is also important to note that, from the very beginning, Lucas Oil Stadium was designed to be a multi-use facility to accommodate many users, not just the Colts. Already, the stadium has successfully hosted many events having nothing whatsoever to do with professional football and many more are already scheduled for years to come. While we are immensely proud to be able to call Lucas Oil Stadium our home field, the fact of the matter is the Colts only use the stadium a maximum of nineteen days a year; and the facility is available for use by virtually anyone else the remaining 346 days.
Second, the Colts have been engaged in extensive dialogue, based upon facts and equity, with those leaders who are working hard to find a solution to the CIB funding shortfall. Jim Irsay has personally met with Senator Luke Kenley and Mayor Greg Ballard to discuss these matters. Our representatives have also been in frank, open, and continuing communication with the CIB and the financial leaders of the state legislature since this issue began to emerge early last winter.
Third, our understanding of the CIB's history is that the CIB's budget shortfall is neither new nor unexpected. In fact, only a relatively small portion of the predicted shortfall can be directly attributed to the increase in actual maintenance and operations expense required by Lucas Oil Stadium. What is particularly puzzling is that the shortfall appears to have only become a crisis when the CIB concluded it might be obliged to assume all the operating costs of Conseco Fieldhouse to avoid an early termination of the Pacers' lease.
Fourth, the Colts believe recent criticism of its civic involvement to be unwarranted and unfair. We are extremely proud to have one of professional sports' most comprehensive community outreach programs. While we are deeply involved statewide, we have not predicated charitable giving and civic involvement upon how much public acclaim the club gets in return. The Colts remain committed to that approach.
Fifth, the Colts' commitment to the City of Indianapolis and the State of Indiana has also included providing an exemplary football team on and off the field. The club has invested heavily in recruiting players and coaches of which Indianapolis and the State of Indiana can be proud -- on game days and all the other days they make positive contributions to our communities. There are no more positive role models than Peyton Manning, Gary Brackett, and Jeff Saturday. We believe the Colts' record in wins as well as community leadership speaks for itself. In anticipation of this weekend's NFL Draft, the Colts are preparing to make multi-year and multi-million dollar commitments to the next generation of leaders like those three.
The Colts remain optimistic that a fair and equitable solution will be found that assures the fiscal good health of the CIB, an organization that is very important to the long-term success of Indianapolis and the entire State of Indiana. We hope, though, that the public discussions of the issues will be based upon facts.
Sincerely,
The Indianapolis Colts
Hank, since you claim you're a conservative, with all the supposed beliefs that entails, how is it you're not up in arms over all the corporate welfare sports teams - and in this specific instance, the Colts - receive? Why is that?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 30, 2009, 04:22:54 PM
Blah, blah, blah. . .
Read it when it was first sent out, and its more manure on top of the mountain. The fact is they don't tell you anything in that propaganda, and try to lay it all on the Pacers and the City. Translation? Pony up Marion county, 9 collar counties, and State of Indiana. . .
I want to know why the State didn't just enact a tax to bring the Harley Davidson manufacturing facility to Indiana from PA, and create 400-500 jobs with far less revenue than was required to build the Colts new palace and that giant dance hall?
Quote from: Y on December 30, 2009, 04:27:07 PM
Hank, since you claim you're a conservative, with all the supposed beliefs that entails, how is it you're not up in arms over all the corporate welfare sports teams - and in this specific instance, the Colts - receive? Why is that?
who says I am not?......I am ONLY pointing out that this is JUST not Irsay's problem..........the CIC and Peterson, along with the UNION, (who got very rich off of this)....are as much if not more to blame.....Irsay is a business man....Peterson is a Politician...
I think sports teams such as the Colts and Pacers are very good for Indianapolis...without them, I think our city would suffer even more.....
the bottom line is......we AGAIN, had very poor leadership involved in making important decisions for the people.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 30, 2009, 04:46:35 PM
who says I am not?......I am ONLY pointing out that this is JUST not Irsay's problem..........the CIC and Peterson, along with the UNION, (who got very rich off of this)....are as much if not more to blame.....Irsay is a business man....Peterson is a Politician...
I think sports teams such as the Colts and Pacers are very good for Indianapolis...without them, I think our city would suffer even more.....
the bottom line is......we AGAIN, had very poor leadership involved in making important decisions for the people.
Sports in Indy are soaking the taxpayers yet you say they are 'good' for Indianapolis and without them the city would 'suffer' more?
Lessee, if we follow your logic then if the taxpayers give them more money the city would suffer less. Have I got that right? :wink:
<click!> :biggrin:
Quote from: Y on December 30, 2009, 05:05:28 PM
Sports in Indy are soaking the taxpayers yet you say they are 'good' for Indianapolis and without them the city would 'suffer' more?
Lessee, if we follow your logic then if the taxpayers give them more money the city would suffer less. Have I got that right? :wink:
<click!> :biggrin:
you better buy yourselves some better traps cuz these things are cheap and break easy.... :wink: :razz:
Again, YOU sure love to put words in my mouth......I said the sport teams are GOOD.....POOR leadership is BAD....that is ALL I have really said..... :yes: ;D
I'm having a lot of fun watching you set your traps and they keep springing in your hand..... :biggrin:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 30, 2009, 05:09:40 PM
Again, YOU sure love to put words in my mouth......I said the sport teams are GOOD.....POOR leadership is BAD....that is ALL I have really said..... :yes: ;D
I'm having a lot of fun watching you set your traps and they keep springing in your hand..... :biggrin:
No, here are your words:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 30, 2009, 04:46:35 PM
I think sports teams such as the Colts and Pacers are very good for Indianapolis...without them, I think our city would suffer even more.....
And I pointed out: if we follow your logic then if the taxpayers give them more money the city would suffer less.
Something your words imply.
My traps are doing quite well. :biggrin:
Quote from: Y on December 30, 2009, 05:19:07 PM
And I pointed out: if we follow your logic then if the taxpayers give them more money the city would suffer less.
Something your words imply.
My traps are doing quite well. :biggrin:
AGAIN, you are missing my point.............the leadership made a bad deal.......the Colts, Pacers, Indians all should have POSITIVE effects on Indianapolis....this leadership has created a mess, that may never get cleaned up, without bankruptcy or worse.....raising taxes more is NOT going to fix this problem.....
Just say it, Hank, you really didn't mean to say what you did. :biggrin:
Of course, I still don't get your idea that sports teams should all have a positive effect on Indy. If you're trying to say they have a positive to the city's financial ledger sheet, that's been hashed out here many times before and even the best research in your favor of your idea stated that it was, at best, unquantifiable. The rest - and the majority - showed it to be of negative value. In other words, a net loss.
Quote from: Y on December 30, 2009, 06:44:59 PM
Just say it, Hank, you really didn't mean to say what you did. :biggrin:
Of course, I still don't get your idea that sports teams should all have a positive effect on Indy. If you're trying to say they have a positive to the city's financial ledger sheet, that's been hashed out here many times before and even the best research in your favor of your idea stated that it was, at best, unquantifiable. The rest - and the majority - showed it to be of negative value. In other words, a net loss.
let me put it this way....the Colts and Indy was QUITE successful for years......until they wasted MILLIONS on a stadium they did NOT have to have...or at the least should have negotiated a better resolution than what we got.......
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 30, 2009, 06:48:13 PM
let me put it this way....the Colts and Indy was QUITE successful for years......until they wasted MILLIONS on a stadium they did NOT have to have...or at the least should have negotiated a better resolution than what we got.......
Er, no, the Colts, being financed on the backs of the taxpayers, have always been a net loss to the taxpayers, and thus a net loss to the city - same as the Pacers etc..
And as far as a 'better deal', the only deal should have been: if you'se guys (the Colts, Pacers, etc.) are profitable businesses then you pay for your own business location. If you're not profitable businesses, close your doors.
Isn't that the way conservatives see it, Hank?
<clicky, clicky!> :biggrin:
Quote from: Y on December 30, 2009, 06:55:17 PM
Er, no, the Colts, being financed on the backs of the taxpayers, have always been a net loss to the taxpayers, and thus a net loss to the city - same as the Pacers etc..
And as far as a 'better deal', the only deal should have been: if you'se guys (the Colts, Pacers, etc.) are profitable businesses then you pay for your own business location. If you're not profitable businesses, close your doors.
Isn't that the way conservatives see it, Hank?
<clicky, clicky!> :biggrin:
Uh, NO, the Colts was NOT finaced by taxpayers........maybe the stadium, but the colts paid a set amount for it USAGE of it.....Indy opted to use it for other venues the remaining time....again NOT the Colts problems.....it is City Management problems...if THEY want a sports team in town, there is a price to pay......I say, IF they don't invest in sports teams, then this city has NOTHING to offer...and the ramifications OF NOT having a sports team goes very deep.....from restaurants, night clubs, and Hotels....the work and jobs that has been generated because of these teams has meant millions to the city....(traps are flining everywhere....empty) :razz:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 31, 2009, 07:59:12 AM
Uh, NO, the Colts was NOT finaced by taxpayers........maybe the stadium, but the colts paid a set amount for it USAGE of it.....Indy opted to use it for other venues the remaining time....again NOT the Colts problems.....it is City Management problems...if THEY want a sports team in town, there is a price to pay......I say, IF they don't invest in sports teams, then this city has NOTHING to offer...and the ramifications OF NOT having a sports team goes very deep.....from restaurants, night clubs, and Hotels....the work and jobs that has been generated because of these teams has meant millions to the city....(traps are flining everywhere....empty) :razz:
Gosh, you drank a keg of that Kool Aid didn't you? Along with an IV or two and an enema from the sound of it. :spooked:
I just find it amazing how some people want to blame the States problems on the Colts...........there are hundreds in front of this guy....I shutter to think what this city would be without the Colts, Pacers and Indians....I think they are necessities in a City doing buisiness these days.....
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 31, 2009, 10:39:35 AM
I just find it amazing how some people want to blame the States problems on the Colts...........there are hundreds in front of this guy....I shutter to think what this city would be without the Colts, Pacers and Indians....I think they are necessities in a City doing buisiness these days.....
No one is trying to blame the states problems on the Colts and Irsay, just
this problem.
The fact is those entities are much more of a drain on this city than anything else. But they do entertain. . . :rolleyes:
Quote from: Palehorse on December 31, 2009, 10:43:44 AM
No one is trying to blame the states problems on the Colts and Irsay, just this problem.
The fact is those entities are much more of a drain on this city than anything else. But they do entertain. . . :rolleyes:
but they are only a drain, because of poor leadership who put us in this position....not because Irsay didn't pay the full price for something that they only need 19 days a year...
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 31, 2009, 10:56:12 AM
but they are only a drain, because of poor leadership who put us in this position....not because Irsay didn't pay the full price for something that they only need 19 days a year...
He didn't have to, and still realizes the benefits as if he had!
Well it is looking like Colts vs Chargers - - - Again. . . and the Colts will lose. . .Again. . . :rolleyes:
The Ravens are in the process of spanking the Pats, 24 - 0 in the first quarter! :biggrin:
Quote from: Palehorse on January 10, 2010, 01:51:01 PM
Well it is looking like Colts vs Chargers - - - Again. . . and the Colts will lose. . .Again. . . :rolleyes:
The Ravens are in the process of spanking the Pats, 24 - 0 in the first quarter! :biggrin:
To get to the Chargers the Colts will have to beat the Ravens though. . . :rolleyes:
Well the Packers got screwed last night.
Quote from: Locutus on January 11, 2010, 12:49:36 PM
Well the Packers got screwed last night.
Boy did they ever! I feel sorry for their QB Rogers. . . The guy did a great job of putting his team back into the game and giving them an opportunity to win it, only to have a pass deflected at close range and intercepted. Suxs to be him today! :yes:
It was a great game though, but I didn't dare listen to the post game interviews. No need to hear the PTL club customer. . . :biggrin:
Let alone the fact that there was a FLAGRANT face mask on that play that wasn't called. Look at the video of that last play. Rogers is taken to the ground by the face mask. Instead of the turnover for the win, it should have been a 15 year penalty and a Green Bay first down. :mad:
Quote from: Palehorse on January 11, 2010, 12:55:43 PM
No need to hear the PTL club customer. . . :biggrin:
No doubt he was praisin' Jeebus for making those officials blind to that face mask. :mad:
Quote from: Palehorse on January 11, 2010, 12:55:43 PM
Boy did they ever! I feel sorry for their QB Rogers. . . The guy did a great job of putting his team back into the game and giving them an opportunity to win it, only to have a pass deflected at close range and intercepted. Suxs to be him today! :yes:
It was a great game though, but I didn't dare listen to the post game interviews. No need to hear the PTL club customer. . . :biggrin:
Boy that WAS a great game though!!!...very little defense but plenty of offensive action....some great runs and catches and passes....THEN a BIG defensive play win's it....
btw.....Peyton Manning is proving his greatness before our very eyes as he collects his 4th MVP....and, I believe his second SB victory is only a few weeks away.
I don't think it was FLAGRANT facemask, but it WAS a facemask all the same....and could have easily changed EVERYTHING.....(His hand hit the football then deflected into his facemask, then he let go pretty quickly....)....I really didn't care WHO won this game....I was back and forth on this one the whole game.
both sides played pretty darn good...
I don't know what video you watched, but in the one above, he has his hand on the face mask all the way to the ground. I didn't see him let go at all. I just watched it again to confirm.
Okay, I reviewed it again and you are right...at the 35 second mark you can clearly see a arm by his stomach...but, on closer review...it was Rogers arm, NOT the defenders.....
I think, Arizona got by with one. :yes:
Indeed they did! :mad:
Wow, and the announcer even called it that way too! (Hand in the face). Face mask it was and had the officials called it GB would have retained possession 15 yards further toward the goal. That's just salt in the wound man! ! !
I knew it looked squirrely to me when it happened, but once AZ ran into the end zone I switched it off. Glad I did too or I'd have been a little pissed over it! :smile: How the hell did they miss this when they were whipping out the snotty hankies all night long???? And at such a crucial juncture of the game too! :mad:
Bet there are a LOT of cheeseheads hittin the schnapps and cussing a blue streak this day! :yes:
Quote from: Palehorse on January 11, 2010, 01:34:40 PM
Bet there are a LOT of cheeseheads hittin the schnapps and cussing a blue streak this day! :yes:
;D :yes:
Now we know the Colts are playing the Ravens, again. . . The Ravens gave them a hard way to go in week eleven of the season, and I expect that if they come out like they did yesterday, they'll give them a spanking.
Lost thus far in all of this, are the sour grapes the fans nurture over the Colts midnight move from their town a few years ago. The fans and media are going to have the team whipped into a frenzy by Saturday, imploring upon them to enact revenge upon the traitorous Colts organization for their historical abandonment of them. (The fact the Colts organization showed their ass to the fans here over the last two to three weeks of the season is not going to be of any help to their karma either).
The Ravens have the desire, they have the emotion, they have the skill, and they have Ray Lewis; who I predict is going to savagely harass 4 x MVP Manning like a ravenous beast.
The Colts have 3-4 weeks of rest under their belts, and a lot of rust in their joints. Indianapolis fans had better hope that they can clear it off a lot quicker than the second half Saturday, or Baltimore will never let them live it down! :smile:
wonder if they pat down Ray Lewis before they let him enter the stadium
Oh, and another thing. . . Anyone else notice that the pro-bowl is taking place the weekend before the super bowl this year?
So I'm wondering just how the owners are going to accept this little piece of news? For the two teams in the super bowl it could spell disaster, should their star players obtain an injury during the pro bowl, and the loss of the super bowl champion title.
I'm betting IF the Colts get into the super bowl the entire organization are going to be filling their diapers while manning is on the field. . . :biggrin:
Quote from: followsthewolf on January 11, 2010, 01:45:45 PM
wonder if they pat down Ray Lewis before they let him enter the stadium
:biggrin: Ray's a great player who gives 110% during each and every game. I respect that and admire him for it. I just wish these guys (all NFL players) would get their personal lives in order
before the skeletons are let out of the closet!
Quote from: Palehorse on January 11, 2010, 01:48:32 PM
Oh, and another thing. . . Anyone else notice that the pro-bowl is taking place the weekend before the super bowl this year?
So I'm wondering just how the owners are going to accept this little piece of news? For the two teams in the super bowl it could spell disaster, should their star players obtain an injury during the pro bowl, and the loss of the super bowl champion title.
I'm betting IF the Colts get into the super bowl the entire organization are going to be filling their diapers while manning is on the field. . . :biggrin:
I hate to use this word.....but, this may be the most "retarded" idea EVER in the NFL......how stupid is this?...there is NO way, If I am a player, heading for the SB, would participate in the worthless ProBowl....it is pointless, except for the fact you have been selected by the fans as the best at your postition....other than that it is supposed to be a fun weekend for the players to get together in Hawaii for a little R&R.....and be recognized.
Quote from: Palehorse on January 11, 2010, 01:50:49 PM
:biggrin: Ray's a great player who gives 110% during each and every game. I respect that and admire him for it. I just wish these guys (all NFL players) would get their personal lives in order before the skeletons are let out of the closet!
i believe his problems occurred after he joined the ravens
Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 11, 2010, 01:54:47 PM
I hate to use this word.....but, this may be the most "retarded" idea EVER in the NFL......how stupid is this?...there is NO way, If I am a player, heading for the SB, would participate in the worthless ProBowl....it is pointless, except for the fact you have been selected by the fans as the best at your postition....other than that it is supposed to be a fun weekend for the players to get together in Hawaii for a little R&R.....and be recognized.
I have to agree on this being one of the worst ideas the NFL has floated in a long time.
The fact that the players who are in the SB are going to have to be distracted by learning/teaching new plays from/to others almost ensures a fiasco during the game, or super bowl, or both. . . (Of course, the NFL is probably just trying to generate extra revenue for their latest crown jewel, the Cowboy Stadium, for Jerry). :mad:
Quote from: followsthewolf on January 11, 2010, 01:57:28 PM
i believe his problems occurred after he joined the ravens
Indeed they did. Vic's were after he had played for the Falcons too. A lot of these guys just thug it up because they are bored during the down time. . . Idle hands and all that. . .
Quote from: Palehorse on January 11, 2010, 01:59:37 PM
I have to agree on this being one of the worst ideas the NFL has floated in a long time.
The fact that the players who are in the SB are going to have to be distracted by learning/teaching new plays from/to others almost ensures a fiasco during the game, or super bowl, or both. . . (Of course, the NFL is probably just trying to generate extra revenue for their latest crown jewel, the Cowboy Stadium, for Jerry). :mad:
you're not talkin' about jerry jones, the texas turd, are ya?
why, they're " 'murica's team," don't 'cha know?
Quote from: Palehorse on January 11, 2010, 01:59:37 PM
I have to agree on this being one of the worst ideas the NFL has floated in a long time.
The fact that the players who are in the SB are going to have to be distracted by learning/teaching new plays from/to others almost ensures a fiasco during the game, or super bowl, or both. . . (Of course, the NFL is probably just trying to generate extra revenue for their latest crown jewel, the Cowboy Stadium, for Jerry). :mad:
I bet NONE of the players heading to the SB will attend this fiasco.... :no:
I think it was the intention of the league that the players on the teams contending for the Super Bowl would not participate in the Pro Bowl game. They knew that going in.
Quote from: followsthewolf on January 11, 2010, 02:03:28 PM
you're not talkin' about jerry jones, the texas turd, are ya?
why, they're " 'murica's team," don't 'cha know?
Oh #$%&##%*! Man I hate the Cowboys propaganda machine almost as much as I hate Jerry Jones. That pompous #%$ hat! Of course I'm talkin bout dat moron! :yes: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:
Texas (the state) hasn't been nearly as impacted by this economic downturn as the rest of the country, since it owes the lifeblood of its economy to the one thing that this country cannot seem to do without; oil.
So Jerry gets a new temple on the backs of the great state of Texas and nobody seems to care there. But they will. . .
And the NFL sets another gold standard for their future temples by helping King Jerry into a state of the art temple. . . :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Quote from: Locutus on January 11, 2010, 02:10:16 PM
I think it was the intention of the league that the players on the teams contending for the Super Bowl would not participate in the Pro Bowl game. They knew that going in.
I've not heard or seen that in any of their advertising or promo's thus far. It'll hurt Jerry's gate take if Manning doesn't show. . . :icon_twisted:
I always liked the Cowboys in the Tom Landry days.....but when Jones bought them and Landry found out he was no longer the coach, by listening to the radio.....I no longer had ANY respect for the new owner...and have despised them ever since... :rant:
Yeah, Jerry is a hyena to say the least!
The thing is I'm not too sure the Irsay's are any better than he is either! They're just more secretive about how they do things, and already demonstrated to me that they are just as much a scavenger as the Cowboy organization, via their treatment of their fans and the citizens of the state.
wouldn't it be lovely if...
all the pro bowl players who were also going to the super bowl would suddenly......
pull a muscle, twist an ankle, or otherwise become physically incapacitated on the weekend of the pro bowl?
geez
sometimes accidents happen....when you least expect them
Quote from: Palehorse on January 11, 2010, 02:17:12 PM
Yeah, Jerry is a hyena to say the least!
The thing is I'm not too sure the Irsay's are any better than he is either! They're just more secretive about how they do things, and already demonstrated to me that they are just as much a scavenger as the Cowboy organization, via their treatment of their fans and the citizens of the state.
I agree that the old man irsay was in the same league as jones....I am on the fence about the younger irsay.....I think as an organization, young irsay has done a good job of getting good people around him to build a winner.....ie...Polian (who has done a first class job of bringing "good" people to indy...and dungy able to bring in HIS kind of players to build a winning organization...for THAT I give him props....
as far as this last episode of "giving" up on winning games.....I am very disappointed in him.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 11, 2010, 02:22:23 PM
. . .
as far as this last episode of "giving" up on winning games.....I am very disappointed in him.
And THAT is why the Colts will lose to the Ravens. . .
Quote from: Palehorse on January 11, 2010, 02:40:23 PM
And THAT is why the Colts will lose to the Ravens. . .
I think you are miscalculating Peyton Manning..and I think he is THAT good, that he will lead the Colts to a victory.......and least that is my gut feeling.
tend to agree with you here, hawk
You guys are overlooking the fact that the Ravens pretty much pounded their opponents yesterday on the offensive side by running the football; something the Colts are challenged in preventing.
On the Ravens defensive side I believe you are underestimating Ray Lewis and company, and their ability to get into the backfield and harass the QB; something that historically has been shown to be a key in defeating the Colts. Rattle Manning's cage and he'll freak out, throwing interceptions and ducks to the wind. . .
On top of this add to the mix the fact they've not really played in three weeks, and you have a huge potential for one of those "one and out" playoff appearances for the Colts.
Personally I would love nothing more than to see the Colts go to the championship round; but I am realistic about their chances of doing so. The Colts would have been better served had the Jets been their opponent this week. The Ravens are the worst possible scenario for the Colts. In my opinion.
Why does Jerry get a gate take? The Super Bowl (and the Pro Bowl) is here in Miami. :confused:
Quote from: Locutus on January 11, 2010, 02:55:34 PM
Why does Jerry get a gate take? The Super Bowl (and the Pro Bowl) is here in Miami. :confused:
I thought the pro bowl was being held in Cowboy Stadium this year? (I swear that's what the announcers said during the game this weekend).
Huh, guess that was wrong. . . figures. . . Still a stupid idea though.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/010309dnmetprobowl.36e39e5.html (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/010309dnmetprobowl.36e39e5.html)
Oh, I guess this was what they were talking about. . .
Probably so. JJ was promised a Super Bowl post haste once his new venue was ready.
Looks like Pete Carroll is heading back to the NFL. This time, to Seattle.
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/34809095/ns/sports-nfl/
Chargers, Colts, Ravens, Jets, Cowboys, Vikings, Saints, or Cardinals?
This one's for you HH. I say Chargers. :icon_twisted:
Quote from: Locutus on January 12, 2010, 03:48:14 PM
Chargers, Colts, Ravens, Jets, Cowboys, Vikings, Saints, or Cardinals?
This one's for you HH. I say Chargers. :icon_twisted:
You know, seriously....there is a good group of teams left....all of them are very capable of going, I think the jets are lucky to be there, but they have been playing pretty good....
I personally like the Chargers....and Farve and the Vikings are pretty impressive....the Saints have kind of hit the wall here lately....I hate the Cowboys, but they are playing HOT....IF, the Ravens get past the Colts, they are proving to be pretty damn hot too.....awwwwwwwwwwww......what am I thinking
DA COLTS!!...all the way.....Manning is going to prove WHY he is a 4-time NFL MVP!! :icon_twisted: :razz: :yes:
Well according to the Jets' coach, they're going to win it all.
...and I saw it's going to snow in Fort Lauderdale tomorrow. :wink:
Of course, being a Maryland resident, I like the Ravens. I know ... a long shot ... but .....
Maybe you should get a side bet going with Hank for the game Saturday night. ;D
Quote from: Locutus on January 12, 2010, 04:06:30 PM
Well according to the Jets' coach, they're going to win it all.
...and I saw it's going to snow in Fort Lauderdale tomorrow. :wink:
and I'm pretty sure according to the Saint's Coach and the Cowboys Coach and the Cardinals Coach and the Vikings Coach and the Ravens Coach and the Chargers Coach.....THEY are going to win it all..... :razz:
who knows what the Colts are thinking......the BLEW their chance to go undefeated....so, I'm not SURE what HE is saying... :rolleyes:
Quote from: Locutus on January 12, 2010, 04:11:46 PM
Maybe you should get a side bet going with Hank for the game Saturday night. ;D
naw, I don't bet on teams I want to win......it always backfires on me..........and, the Raven DO have me a little nervous....but, once we get past them....we are Florida bound.... :wink:
btw, it REALLY isn't suppose to snow is it?... :spooked:
No. I was just comparing the Jets' chances of winning the Super Bowl to that of it snowing in Fort Lauderdale tomorrow.
Thankfully, tomorrow is the first day in about 12 days that the temperature will surpass 70 degrees again. 8)
Quote from: Locutus on January 12, 2010, 04:11:46 PM
Maybe you should get a side bet going with Hank for the game Saturday night. ;D
I only bet on college basketball .....
GO TERPS!!!!!!
Quote from: Olias on January 12, 2010, 04:20:25 PM
I only bet on college basketball .....
GO TERPS!!!!!!
Go Hoosiers.............I'm mean......NEVER MIND!!! :rant:
we need Bobby Knight back... :yes: ..............just isn't the same around here anymore.... :no:
Quote from: Locutus on January 12, 2010, 04:19:16 PM
No. I was just comparing the Jets' chances of winning the Super Bowl to that of it snowing in Fort Lauderdale tomorrow.
Thankfully, tomorrow is the first day in about 12 days that the temperature will surpass 70 degrees again. 8)
duh, I get it......(little slow here.... :rolleyes: :razz: ).......I'm heading to orlando in one week.... :yes: ..then off for a cruise...and I am WAY too excited.... :yes: :smitten:
Excellent. The warm weather should be back by then.
Yeah.
Too many empty chairs that need to be thrown in a childish tantrum.
Quote from: followsthewolf on January 12, 2010, 04:25:03 PM
Yeah.
Too many empty chairs that need to be thrown in a childish tantrum.
ahh, say what you want......the man KNOWS Basketball and KNOWS how to win.......and he SURE makes it interesting... :yes: :biggrin:
See.......character means NOTHING.
JUST WIN, BABY, WIN!!!!!!
Maybe that's why Gary Williams is always handicapped. He refuses to participate in the NCAA debacle called recruiting in the way that other "coaches" do.
Quote from: followsthewolf on January 12, 2010, 04:29:45 PM
See.......character means NOTHING.
JUST WIN, BABY, WIN!!!!!!
he had PLENTY of Charactor, just ask the 95% of his players that graduated.........they ADORE him...and these guys have turned out to be outstanding citizens as well.....Charactor mean everything.....but sometimes, some people go to the extreme to make their point......Lombardi, Ditka, Lasorda...to name a few....
and he always had a clean program....
Everybody's happy when you win.
Quote from: followsthewolf on January 12, 2010, 04:43:29 PM
Everybody's happy when you win.
and we (the hoosiers) are NOT winning....like we USED to in the Knight days....it just is NOT the same.
go Ravens
Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 12, 2010, 04:46:43 PM
and we (the hoosiers) are NOT winning....like we USED to in the Knight days....it just is NOT the same.
exactly *sniff*
By this time tomorrow Colt fans will either be celebrating or engaging in "I told you so" philosophical lashings of the team leadership; dependent upon the outcome of this evening's activities at the Luke. . .
Either the Colts historical midnight scat from Baltimore will be vindicated, or Baltimore's former fans will. Either way, "somebody's gonna' hurt someone, before the night is through. Somebody's gonna' come undone; there's nothing we can do. . ."
:biggrin:
I'm not much of a Colts fan, so I'll say "Go Ravens!" :razz:
Manning, although he is not as sharp as he normally is, he is still showing WHY he is the MVP, he is playing solid and smart, ......they have a 20-3 lead with 9 minutes left in the 4th quarter...and the Colts Defense has played outstanding...making some great BIG plays....I'm starting to feel pretty good right now......I think there IS going to be a heartache tonight....especially with John Harbaugh and the the folks in Baltimore...
Well before Indianapolis gets too full of themselves, they'd better understand that THEY didn't beat Baltimore, Baltimore did. Take away the interference call on the second interception, and that crappy call on Ray Lewis in the end zone, and Baltimore has two touchdowns. But for Garcon's heads up (and somewhat lucky) play on Reid's first interception they could very well have walked out of the Luke the winners.
Karma has a bad way of coming back to you at the least opportune moment, and should the Jets somehow beat the Chargers tomorrow, how "meaningless" does that game against the Jets seem then????
Newsflash _ Addai jerseys on sale at the colts pro shop. Anybody think he'll be around next year? :rolleyes:
Go Chargers!
Quote from: Palehorse on January 17, 2010, 12:05:05 AM
Well before Indianapolis gets too full of themselves, they'd better understand that THEY didn't beat Baltimore, Baltimore did. Take away the interference call on the second interception, and that crappy call on Ray Lewis in the end zone, and Baltimore has two touchdowns. But for Garcon's heads up (and somewhat lucky) play on Reid's first interception they could very well have walked out of the Luke the winners.
Karma has a bad way of coming back to you at the least opportune moment, and should the Jets somehow beat the Chargers tomorrow, how "meaningless" does that game against the Jets seem then? ???
Newsflash _ Addai jerseys on sale at the colts pro shop. Anybody think he'll be around next year? :rolleyes:
I don't disagree that the Raven's BLEW some golden opportunities...but, they Colts defense did stop them in their tracks for the most part....and Manning was NOT his usual self, but made some very nice throws and led his team to a sounding victory...and I agree Addai has NOT had a stellar year, and I think it is time to allow that Hart guy or bring in someone new....
I would LOVE to play the Jets again and play them like we SHOULD have the first time....JUST, to clear the air.............but, I got my money on the Chargers to beat the Jets soundly....
Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 17, 2010, 02:17:13 PM
. . .
I would LOVE to play the Jets again and play them like we SHOULD have the first time....JUST, to clear the air.............but, I got my money on the Chargers to beat the Jets soundly....
Well, yah lost that money didn't yah! :biggrin:
The Colts playing a team that bases its entire offense on the run, for the division championship. A team they rolled over and let into the mix, and a team that they will be sorely sorry for allowing in. . .
This has implosion written all over it. . .
HH, I'm going to head you off at the pass. They way the Chargers looked tonight, the Colts would have beaten them hands down. :(
Quote from: Palehorse on January 17, 2010, 08:42:00 PM
Well, yah lost that money didn't yah! :biggrin:
and THAT!, is why I don't bet!!..(in real life anyway.. :redface: :razz: )...but, I am glad we are getting the opportunity to play the Jets again....but this time, playing to win....and even though they are playing very well....I gotta think that the experienced Manning AT home can outlast the rookie qb Sanchez.....
I guess at this point I'm going to have to be a Colts fan next week. :-\
Quote from: Locutus on January 18, 2010, 10:05:13 AM
I guess at this point I'm going to have to be a Colts fan next week. :-\
you are making a WISE choice.... :yes: you have the MVP of the NFL at home vs. a rookie qb from NEW YORK!...
who do you think it will be between NO and MINN?.....
Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 18, 2010, 10:13:07 AM
you are making a WISE choice.... :yes: you have the MVP of the NFL at home vs. a rookie qb from NEW YORK!...
who do you think it will be between NO and MINN?.....
I don't really care too much. I'd kinda' like to see Minnesota go, but I wouldn't mind if New Orleans went. I usually pull for the AFC team in the Super Bowl, but that won't be the case if the Jets somehow beat the Colts.
I
HATE the Jets.
Kinda glad to see the rookie QB Sanchez have a good season, but I'm not much of a Jets fan either.
THIS will be the true test as to whether the Colts Defense has really improved against the run. The Jets are the #1 run team in the league, their ground attack consisting of 59% of their offensive package. And they have the horses for it too, as they've shown the last few weeks.
IF the Colts win it'll be because everybody catches every pass Manning throws, and due to the efforts of special teams which are going to HAVE to come through big Sunday.
The Jets are going to run the ball, hard and often. They're going to eat up the clock like Pac Man, and Manning's time on the field will be limited severely. They are going to come after Manning and rattle his cage. All tactics that have been proven to be the winning formula against the Colts.
Could be a very long game for everyone involved.
The Colts have to hit their marks, catch every pass, and the twins on the D have to be on top of Sanchez early and often throughout the game. . .and of utmost importance to the Colts is stopping the run every time! (Snatch the ball!)
I'd love to see Minnesota and Brett Favre go to the big show this year. Call me sentimental, but I would love nothing more than to see Favre add the crowning jewel to the exclamation point of his career. (Serves the cheeseheads right).
Anyway you slice it, this weekend's match ups should make for a very interesting contest! :yes:
I agree...
I also think we are in for some top-notch football next Sunday... :yes:
I am so glad to see Jerry Jones all happy on the sidelines.
Keith Brookings was a real gem at the end of the game, wasn't he? Hey Keith, if you don't want to get a butt-kicking, then PLAY BETTER DEFENSE.
Otherwise, shut up and suck it up.
I seem to recall a few years back (maybe 10 or so) when the Cowboys laid a 41-0 whuppin' on the Vikings. No one did a whine-and-cry dance then. Grow up, Cowboys -- you have no special privileges, nor are you a special team.
Quote from: followsthewolf on January 18, 2010, 12:42:06 PM
I am so glad to see Jerry Jones all happy on the sidelines.
Keith Brookings was a real gem at the end of the game, wasn't he? Hey Keith, if you don't want to get a butt-kicking, then PLAY BETTER DEFENSE.
Otherwise, shut up and suck it up.
I seem to recall a few years back (maybe 10 or so) when the Cowboys laid a 41-0 whuppin' on the Vikings. No one did a whine-and-cry dance then. Grow up, Cowboys -- you have no special privileges, nor are you a special team.
Indeed! Sux to be Wade Phillips today I'm betting. Jerry's kids got their asses handed to them and the Vikings got some well deserved payback for past transgressions at the hands of those Cowboys. . . Ol Jerry's face was a sour as they come yesterday, and Brooks just needed a diaper change.
"If you don't want them to score then do something to prevent it!" :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:
Absolutely
:yes: :biggrin:
In fact, I am surprised that Jerry has not fired Wade yet. (Must be those pictures Wade has of Jerry and his steers). You know that ol' sourpuss is just chompin' at the bit to cut him.
Speaking of Wade, anybody ever seen a more desperate looking individual on the sidelines? That guy always looks like he's anticipating root canal without the anesthetic! Sometimes he even looks like he's going to bust out crying for Pete's sake!
When Jerry was on the sidelines he took off the headgear and acted like he was ready to throw in the towel. . . You know Jerry wants to cut his ass bad. . .
WELL ACCORDING TO THIS:
Jerry Jones will bring Wade Phillips back as Cowboys coach....
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2010/01/espn-jerry-jones-will-bring-wade-phillips-back-as-cowboys-coach/1 (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2010/01/espn-jerry-jones-will-bring-wade-phillips-back-as-cowboys-coach/1)
Yeah, and so the story has gone for weeks now. . . Someone somewhere is holding something over Jerry's head to make him keep "Mr. Personality" on the payroll. It probably doesn't hurt Wade's cause when Jerry has just spent a bunch of money to build his new temple and probably is in the red revenue wise. IF he keeps him its only because he has that last year (option year) left in his contract, and Jerry doesn't have the money to bring a new lamb to the altar right now.
Quote from: Palehorse on January 18, 2010, 01:44:42 PM
Yeah, and so the story has gone for weeks now. . . Someone somewhere is holding something over Jerry's head to make him keep "Mr. Personality" on the payroll. It probably doesn't hurt Wade's cause when Jerry has just spent a bunch of money to build his new temple and probably is in the red revenue wise. IF he keeps him its only because he has that last year (option year) left in his contract, and Jerry doesn't have the money to bring a new lamb to the altar right now.
I think this is a pretty good analysis.....probably spot on.... :yes:
The day of reckoning is but 48 hours from now. Will the Colts be able to overcome the running game of the Jets, and quiet the throwing arm of Sanchez? Will Manning and Company fire off a quick grouping of points to move on to the Super Bowl? Will Favre and the Vikings be able to pound the Saints into oblivion and meet with the Colts in Florida?
The answers to these questions are only hours away now! :icon_twisted:
I'm pulling for the Colts this week. I loathe the Jets, but everyone knows that by now. ;D
Quote from: Locutus on January 22, 2010, 04:45:54 PM
I'm pulling for the Colts this week. I loathe the Jets, but everyone knows that by now. ;D
Me too. I hope they spank their ass long and hard.
I'm also pulling for the Vikings. Favre has done an outstanding job with them this year, as has the defense. I think they've earned a trip to the big show.
GO COLTS! GO COLTS! GO COLTS! GO COLTS!
GO COLTS! GO COLTS! GO COLTS! GO COLTS!
GO COLTS! GO COLTS! GO COLTS! GO COLTS!
GO COLTS! GO COLTS! GO COLTS! GO COLTS!
GO COLTS! GO COLTS! GO COLTS! GO COLTS!
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As bad as I hate to say it, the Jets may have a shot. The Colts can't run very effectively, so the Jets don't have to respect that. All they have to do is defend the pass, and that's what they do best anyway. They have the top ranked pass defense in the NFL. If they keep Manning in check, they punch their ticket to Miami.
Quote from: Locutus on January 24, 2010, 12:44:56 PM
As bad as I hate to say it, the Jets may have a shot. The Colts can't run very effectively, so the Jets don't have to respect that. All they have to do is defend the pass, and that's what they do best anyway. They have the top ranked pass defense in the NFL. If they keep Manning in check, they punch their ticket to Miami.
Not to mention they are number 1 in run offense as well. I have no doubt the Jets can beat the Colts, but they'll have to be at the top of their game on both sides of the ball. Otherwise, Manning and Company will run up the score on them.
There's no doubt in my mind the Jets have a very real shot at sending the Colts packing, and in their own house, this afternoon. It will suck if it happens, but I've been saying that letting them in by laying down and pulling the starters was a mistake in the first place. They brought the Jets to the dance, so they might as well go ahead and kiss them!
Yup! The Jets get to "dance with the one that brung ya'!" ;D
I'm fairly certain that unless something extraordinary happens, this is going to be an NFC year insofar as the Super Bowl Champ goes.
Quote from: Locutus on January 24, 2010, 02:42:19 PM
Yup! The Jets get to "dance with the one that brung ya'!" ;D
I'm fairly certain that unless something extraordinary happens, this is going to be an NFC year insofar as the Super Bowl Champ goes.
IF the Colts beat the Jets, I think they can beat the Saints. Minnesota is a tossup.
Here we go! :icon_twisted:
Quote from: Palehorse on January 17, 2010, 12:05:05 AM
Well before Indianapolis gets too full of themselves, they'd better understand that THEY didn't beat Baltimore, Baltimore did. Take away the interference call on the second interception, and that crappy call on Ray Lewis in the end zone, and Baltimore has two touchdowns. But for Garcon's heads up (and somewhat lucky) play on Reid's first interception they could very well have walked out of the Luke the winners.
Karma has a bad way of coming back to you at the least opportune moment, and should the Jets somehow beat the Chargers tomorrow, how "meaningless" does that game against the Jets seem then????
Newsflash _ Addai jerseys on sale at the colts pro shop. Anybody think he'll be around next year? :rolleyes:
Sanchez has nothing to hang his head over. His team may have lost but the Jets made it a fight.
Sanchez is worth watching in the years to come. He made some pretty stupid/risky throws that he was lucky didn't cost them anything, but he demonstrated he has the talent necessary to make a name for himself in the NFL, IMHO.
Sorry Jets, but Herr Manning figured you out in the 2nd half and sent yah back home to watch the superbowl!
Garcon, what a game! Collie and Wayne too. And my man Dallas Clark (44) got a touch in there too finally!
Congrats COLTS!
Irsay, shut the #%&# up and sit down!
Colts verses Saints in the super bowl this year!
Yep! My early money is on the Saints. ;D
Quote from: Locutus on January 24, 2010, 10:43:33 PM
Yep! My early money is on the Saints. ;D
The odds in Vegas are not.
Manning has proved WHY, he is the MVP of the NFL....and will continue to do so in two weeks.... :yes:
If the Saints play in the Super Bowl like they did yesterday, they will lose to the Colts. If the Colts cough up the football the way the Vikings did, they'll lose in the Super Bowl.
Concerns for the Colts:
1. Addai - the guy has a nasty habit of losing the football, and the Saints are after it on every play.
2. Addai - while he showed some promise and production in yesterdays game, his yards per carry leaves a lot to be desired.
3. Offensive Line - The Saints are big, mean and nasty, and the Colts are built for speed. I'm thinking this may be a problem in protecting Manning from the Saints massacre. They gimped up Favre and he's a lot more durable than Manning is. I worry he'll get hurt and be out of the game in the first half.
4. Defense - pressure is the key to putting Drew off his game plan. Can the Colts get inside and into the backfield?? Lets hope so, otherwise he'll burn the Colts like he did the Vikings a few times yesterday.
I believe the Colts can beat the Saints, and beat them handily. The "X" factor is Manning and his ability to figure out their schemes. Whether any of the above come into play remains to be seen. . .
The Saints were given 5 turnovers on their home field and still only won by 3 points...in overtime no less. If they play that way in two weeks, they don't stand a chance.
I think the key words to your analysis is "Mannings ability to figure out schemes"....and I think THIS is why they have lost only 9 games the last three years...
He amazes me with his ability to come back in the second half, after looking at films and snapshots and find weakness's and attack defenses.....he is at the top of his game....maybe not with his deep passes but simply moving his team down the field....
I like our chance's better with the Saints than I did with the Vikings....
Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 25, 2010, 01:05:06 PM
I think the key words to your analysis is "Manning's ability to figure out schemes"....and I think THIS is why they have lost only 9 games the last three years...
He amazes me with his ability to come back in the second half, after looking at films and snapshots and find weakness's and attack defenses.....he is at the top of his game....maybe not with his deep passes but simply moving his team down the field....
I like our chance's better with the Saints than I did with the Vikings....
The Vikings only lost to them due to the fact their players couldn't hold onto the ball. 6 turnovers is no way to win a championship game. I feel for Favre in that he had such a career season only to have it end that way. Still, they made a game of it.
I don't think anyone questions Manning's ability and his high level of impact upon the team's ability to win games. He is the reason guys like Garcon, Wayne, Collie, and Clark raise their own games to the next level. Remove him from the mix and they'll sink faster than a ton of lead, and that's why it is going to be imperative for the receivers to get open quick and get the ball in the air within no more than 3 seconds after the snap, preferably less.
The Saints are going to be in the backfield and hunting quarterback, loaded for elephant. If they get to Manning he is going to get hurt. . .
The Colts proved they can stop the run, but in the process they leave themselves open to the big throws, and Drew can make those kinds of throws as well as Manning. Maybe even a little more consistently than Manning right now.
Its going to be a great match up if both teams report at the top of their respective games. The Colts edge out the Saints in the experience category, and that could be the difference in the game if this is the case. The Saints are used to blowing out their opponents and the Colts can keep up and even set the pace if given an opening.
Manning is a master at identifying weaknesses and exploiting them, no doubt about that. I just think the Saints are pretty good at it as well.
Favre's line didn't protect him enough -- no sacks but way, way too many hits, especially for a 40 y.o.
I'd bet that the punishment he took prevented him from executing pass plays like he would normally.
Possibly it caused him to be split-seconds too slow throwing the ball, allowing defenders to cut in front and intercept, or causing Favre to throw behind the receiver.
Quote from: followsthewolf on January 25, 2010, 02:40:10 PM
Favre's line didn't protect him enough -- no sacks but way, way too many hits, especially for a 40 y.o.
I'd bet that the punishment he took prevented him from executing pass plays like he would normally.
Possibly it caused him to be split-seconds too slow throwing the ball, allowing defenders to cut in front and intercept, or causing Favre to throw behind the receiver.
Exactly the point, the Colts are not any better than the Vikings offensive line when it comes to protecting the qb, and I suspect they'll be just as leaky. . . The key will be Manning's ability to get the ball out quickly.
Manning is a lot younger and hasn't been beaten up nearly as much as Favre.
I'm thinking that if Reggie Bush doesn't come through for the Saints in a big way, Indy is looking at another trophy.
Quote from: followsthewolf on January 25, 2010, 02:54:30 PM
Manning is a lot younger and hasn't been beaten up nearly as much as Favre.
I'm thinking that if Reggie Bush doesn't come through for the Saints in a big way, Indy is looking at another trophy.
Maybe. But I've seen him take hits far less in severity than the ones Brett took yesterday, and come up limping. The Saints D is out for blood every time. Manning will be man-handled to the extreme. . .
Reggie may not get the chance if the Colts D holds true to form. . .
One thing that is definitely going to happen over the next two weeks, is the media blitz that is going to hoist the New Orleans Saints onto its shoulders and parade them around as the team to beat. They are going to play up the Katrina angle, as was evident by the post game interviews I saw yesterday with Drew Brees and Reggie Bush. The media see's only the gold in that angle, and to demonstrate that they are doing their best to be "fair and balanced" they'll be sure to show clips of the Manning boys schlepping supplies post Katrina, to their former friends and neighbors. They are going to present their case to the Karma Gods that the people of New Orleans deserve to have their Saints come marching home with nothing less than a Super Bowl Championship, and in the process get a huge chunk of America to go right along with it.
The fans who for years wore bags over their heads proclaiming themselves "Aint's" fans, can now remove the bags and bask in the glory of their Saints, so the storyline will begin. The city that has been ravaged by Mother Nature, (roll the tape of dead bodies and destruction), and endured decades of a lackluster teams cellar dwelling performance, can finally hold their heads high as that same team marches toward a super bowl championship. . . . Blah, blah, blah. . .
Truth be told here, America is probably as sick of hearing about the Colts and Manning, as most Hoosiers are sick of hearing about the Patriots, and the media knows it. There's a "human" angle in the Katrina storyline, and they are going to play it up big time. America is going to be rooting for the Saints, the abused underdogs from the abused city, in their first ever trip to the big show.
Corporate Amerika is going to join the gravy train too, and I predict Reggie Bush and Drew Brees are going to be gracing our television screens hawking everything from batteries to razor blades. Hell, they may even hawk a few women's personal care products if the money is right. And Reggie's mom may even get into the act by hounding Reg to eat his Chunky Soup or else!
Hoosiers are going to be so sick of seeing and hearing about the Saints that it may very well be dangerous for me to take my Harley out this coming spring. (It is after all, Black and Gold, and has always made me think of the Saints from the moment I first set eyes on it).
Get ready folks, the propaganda blitz is coming!
(I may have to see how much a new set of tins will cost for my Harley!) :spooked:
The wife and I just got back from a cruise, and I was sporting my Colts attire MOST of the time...and it seems to me that there is a LOVE/HATE relationship with the Indy Colts....about half the folks was kind and were rooting for the Colts....the other half, had real issues with the Colts...especially a couple of Jets fans from NY, was very nasty with their thoughts of the Colts...(this was before the game)...to the point were my wife grabbed a hold of my arm VERY firmly, because I was getting the dander stirred up with these "lovely" folks...I was having fun, and these guys was getting VERY SERIOUS with our coversation...to where my wife was getting uncomfortable, so we walked away....
PH, I agree, the media is going to play up the Saints and put them on a pedestal....and I hope they do!...I like the way Manning said their approach to the Jets game was..."to let them trash talk all they want, we will do our talking on the field"....
Having spent many years as a player and coach, I have a more-than-passing interest in football, but I am still extremely surprised to read about or encounter a "fan" who wants to take a discussion to the physical level.
These are disturbed "wanna-be's."
Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 25, 2010, 04:37:48 PM
The wife and I just got back from a cruise, and I was sporting my Colts attire MOST of the time...and it seems to me that there is a LOVE/HATE relationship with the Indy Colts....about half the folks was kind and were rooting for the Colts....the other half, had real issues with the Colts...especially a couple of Jets fans from NY, was very nasty with their thoughts of the Colts...(this was before the game)...to the point were my wife grabbed a hold of my arm VERY firmly, because I was getting the dander stirred up with these "lovely" folks...I was having fun, and these guys was getting VERY SERIOUS with our coversation...to where my wife was getting uncomfortable, so we walked away....
PH, I agree, the media is going to play up the Saints and put them on a pedestal....and I hope they do!...I like the way Manning said their approach to the Jets game was..."to let them trash talk all they want, we will do our talking on the field"....
I wore a Colts hat and Pullover to suburban Chicago the fall following the Colts super bowl win over the Bears. My wife and I went to the grocery store (Jewel) and I got stopped at least a dozen times by folks asking me if we were from Indy, then complementing the Colts and sharing their well wishes and congrats on the super bowl win. (I never even thought about it potentially being a conflict inducing action to to wear that stuff. I was too preoccupied with my grand daughter's b-day). Having grown up in Chicago I somehow was not surprised by this though.
New Yorkers are rude and obnoxious individuals. They cannot help it, they have to be that way to survive there. :wink: You did the right thing. No need to fan the flames of jealousy afloat. :smile:
Quote from: followsthewolf on January 25, 2010, 04:51:58 PM
Having spent many years as a player and coach, I have a more-than-passing interest in football, but I am still extremely surprised to read about or encounter a "fan" who wants to take a discussion to the physical level.
These are disturbed "wanna-be's."
It has been my first hand observation, that those from N.Y. seem to be the one's who take their sports a TAD too serious...
Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 25, 2010, 04:55:03 PM
It has been my first hand observation, that those from N.Y. seem to be the one's who take their sports a TAD too serious...
What do you expect from folks for which the only diversion from the killing, raping, and pillaging of every day life in their native surroundings is a professional sports team? :wink:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 25, 2010, 04:55:03 PM
It has been my first hand observation, that those from N.Y. seem to be the one's who take their sports a TAD too serious...
Weeeeellllll...............Most of the huge rivalries in football seem to breed a fair number of the huffing, puffing, drooling "wanna piece a me?" kind of moron.
Not to mention the granddaddy of 'em all for violence -- soccer.
Soccer! No kidding! I hope I never find myself at one of those events! :spooked:
Yep. Those guys are so nuts that they will literally kill each other over championship games.
Quote from: followsthewolf on January 25, 2010, 08:01:24 PM
Yep. Those guys are so nuts that they will literally kill each other over championship games.
didn't one of the big soccer stars get killed by the mafia a few years ago, because he lost a big game for them?....
Sorry, Hank. Don't know anything about that.
Was referring to rioting fans who get so carried away (read: drunk) that they get into savage brawls with fans of opposing teams.
Quote from: followsthewolf on January 25, 2010, 08:23:39 PM
Sorry, Hank. Don't know anything about that.
Was referring to rioting fans who get so carried away (read: drunk) that they get into savage brawls with fans of opposing teams.
I think this is what I remember seeing...http://deadspin.com/5055453/brazil-mourns-murdered-soccer-player
Here we go: :icon_evil:
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New Orleans defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, speaking earlier in the week on a Tennessee sports talk radio show, said the Saints will need to deliver some "remember me" shots on Manning and added, "you hope he doesn't get back up and play again" at Sun Life Stadium on Feb. 7th. . .
. . ."You kill the head and the body will die," Williams said. "That's usually how it goes, you hit the quarterback and the whole team feels it.
"This guy's got a great clock in his head. The big thing is that he throws the ball so early that we're going to have to do a good job of finding ways to get to him and when we do get to him we're going to have to make sure he gets a couple 'remember me' shots when we get there.". .
http://www.indystar.com/article/20100129/SPORTS03/1290398/ (http://www.indystar.com/article/20100129/SPORTS03/1290398/)
Like I said earlier, they're hunting quarterbacks!
I think the Saints' defensive coordinator is a douche and this is poor sportsmanship. What he is effectively saying is that his team isn't good enough to beat the Colts fairly so he's willing to play dirty and accept the penalties for doing so hoping that he can injure the opposing team's quarterback.
Quote from: Exterminator on January 29, 2010, 03:31:50 PM
I think the Saints' defensive coordinator is a douche and this is poor sportsmanship. What he is effectively saying is that his team isn't good enough to beat the Colts fairly so he's willing to play dirty and accept the penalties for doing so hoping that he can injure the opposing team's quarterback.
Yup, and I expected nothing less. After watching the way they man-handled Favre, I knew what to expect from them when it came to the Super Bowl and Peyton Manning.
Here's the results of a New Orleans poll asking which Colts player beside Manning will be the biggest threat to the Saints:
Reggie Wayne, receiver 16% (376 votes)
Joseph Addai, running back 11% (256 votes)
Dallas Clark, tight end 30% (732 votes)
Pierre Garcon, receiver 18% (435 votes)
Austin Collie, receiver 5% (127 votes)
Dwight Freeney, defensive end 15% (368 votes)
Clint Session, linebacker 1% (20 votes)
Gary Brackett, linebacker 1% (32 votes)
Antoine Bethea, safety 1% (21 votes)
Other, tell us below 2% (55 votes)
Total Votes: 2,422
Looks like they're afraid of Dallas Clark, as well they should be. He finally made the pro bowl for his ability to make the big plays, catches, and not the least of his talents, his blocking. The guy is a great all around threat and if they leave an opening he and Manning will team up to burn their asses.
They have several polls posted. You can see them here:
http://topics.nola.com/tag/new-orleans-saints-poll/index.html (http://topics.nola.com/tag/new-orleans-saints-poll/index.html)
Wow. At least one Saints fan agrees surrounding Williams yapping:
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the saints have a loud-mouthed defensive coach doing alot of gum flapping about hurting peyton manning. what an idiot.
i would think that would put drew brees in jeopardy at the hands of dwight freeney and robert mathis.
these guys are animals who are as relentless as a terminator and they will stalk brees all day until they get him.
they love the taste of thier own blood but they love a quarterbacks blood even more. they will hit, hurt and pound his carcass into the miami turf.brees will cry and beg but it wont matter, these guys dont have feelings or show remorse on the football field.
brees will know first hand what suffering and misery are all about, the colts will open up an entire 55 gallon drum of whoopass.
when they get thier hands on brees it wont be a hit, it will be a felony.
colts-44
aints-21
Quote from: Palehorse on January 29, 2010, 03:38:58 PM
Looks like they're afraid of Dallas Clark, as well they should be. He finally made the pro bowl for his ability to make the big plays, catches, and not the least of his talents, his blocking.
I wish he had the ability to pick a better paint color for his house...it is butt ugly. :biggrin:
Quote from: Exterminator on January 29, 2010, 04:29:35 PM
I wish he had the ability to pick a better paint color for his house...it is butt ugly. :biggrin:
Maybe he'll change it after the super bowl, if they win. He probably can afford it then! :biggrin:
I hope he sticks around awhile. I bought his jersey. Last time I did that they traded the person I chose! (Stokley)
I think he is an outstanding player myself. . . :yes: (Voted for him in the pro bowl countless times) :smile:
Trying to decide if I want to watch the Pro Bowl this evening. I'll probably go to a sports bar to watch it if I even watch it at all. The Pro Bowl has never really excited me.
Actually, I could go and see it live and in person. It's only about 7 miles as the crow flies to the stadium where both the Pro Bowl and Super Bowl will be played here in Miami. Tickets to the Pro Bowl are relatively cheap and there are some still available. Nose bleed of course.
I may tune it in if I think of it. Funny it isn't televised except for ESPN. You'd think if the NFL actually wanted to do something to increase fan interest they'd put it on network programming. . .
I really think that by scheduling it so close to the Super bowl they've tripped themselves up. Especially considering that the #1 seeds in both conferences are in the event this year, meaning high profile players that are with those teams will not even be participating.
I rarely, if ever, watch it anyway since it is after the season ends typically. I don't see it much different now. They should take a hint from MLB and move it to mid season, giving the "bye" week to each team the week it is held. . .
Of course, there are other advantages to having the Super and Pro Bowls here in South Florida.
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:trustme:
Yeah, I bet there's plenty of eye candy about. . .
I admit I got kind of jealous seeing so many people in shorts and short sleeves this time of year. . . :rant:
Heck, if I tried that here right now I'd get frostbite, or suffer hypothermia in short order. :rant:
Personally I have to admire Ray Lewis and his enthusiasm for the game. There he was playing alongside men he played against all season long, and still he chatted them up, getting in their tails when he needed to and whooping it up when someone made a play. He helped everybody have a good time from what I saw and heard.
And the AFC comes out with a win too. :smile:
Quote from: Palehorse on January 31, 2010, 10:02:12 PM
Yeah, I bet there's plenty of eye candy about. . .
I admit I got kind of jealous seeing so many people in shorts and short sleeves this time of year. . . :rant:
Heck, if I tried that here right now I'd get frostbite, or suffer hypothermia in short order. :rant:
C'mon down! The weather's fine. ;D
Quote from: Palehorse on January 31, 2010, 10:50:00 PM
Personally I have to admire Ray Lewis and his enthusiasm for the game. There he was playing alongside men he played against all season long, and still he chatted them up, getting in their tails when he needed to and whooping it up when someone made a play. He helped everybody have a good time from what I saw and heard.
And the AFC comes out with a win too. :smile:
They all seemed to have a good time and even did their best to give the other side a chance to win on several plays.
And I like the AFC win!
Quote from: Locutus on January 31, 2010, 11:04:29 PM
C'mon down! The weather's fine. ;D
Nah. I'll revel in the cold while I can. Won't be much longer and it'll be hotter than Hades up here. :smile:
Quote from: Palehorse on January 31, 2010, 10:50:00 PM
Personally I have to admire Ray Lewis and his enthusiasm for the game. There he was playing alongside men he played against all season long, and still he chatted them up, getting in their tails when he needed to and whooping it up when someone made a play. He helped everybody have a good time from what I saw and heard.
And the AFC comes out with a win too. :smile:
I agree with some of what you said, but, personally, I think Ray Lewis belongs in prison.
I swear, the local news coverage of the Colts arrival in Miami made me sick. They were acting like it was some kind of BIG news event or something! :rolleyes: (I'm relatively sure the players were rolling their eyes too) :biggrin:
Yeah. They did the same with the Saints, too.
I could do without all the hype, but it gives a lot of people jobs.
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 02, 2010, 07:01:49 AM
Yeah. They did the same with the Saints, too.
I could do without all the hype, but it gives a lot of people jobs.
Good point!
GO COLTS! GO COLTS! GO COLTS! GO COLTS!
GO COLTS! GO COLTS! GO COLTS! GO COLTS![/b]
OK, who's gonna be first?
I'd have been more entertained by a good bowel movement rather than listen to those geezers at halftime! :rolleyes:
Now, don't be jealous.
Quote from: Palehorse on February 07, 2010, 08:23:30 PM
I'd have been more entertained by a good bowel movement rather than listen to those geezers at halftime! :rolleyes:
I was just thrilled it wasn't Lady Gaga or black eyed peas.............it is good to see the old dudes STILL do their thing...
Joseph Adaii is working very hard for a MVP....
Isn't his contract up this year?
Yes it is. And there's a reason his jersey is on sale at the pro shop.
The Colts are going to lose this game unless they stop the Saints on THIS drive! :icon_evil:
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 07, 2010, 08:55:07 PM
Isn't his contract up this year?
I think he has one more year left...
Congratulations New Orleans Saints - Super Bowl 44 Champs!
Sean Payton....deserves a big pat on the back....he coached a great game.
Who dat?
The people of New Orleans can get rid of the bags now. . . :biggrin:
Quote from: Palehorse on February 07, 2010, 09:50:48 PM
The people of New Orleans can get rid of the bags now. . . :biggrin:
not the sandbags though...
Well you just knew when it was decided that it would be the Saints verses the Colts, that the Saints were going into this with the edge; or at least I did anyway.
First there was the beating New Orleans took from mother nature, then the fact they had never been to a super bowl in their history. Add to that the Manning connection, (hailing from New Orleans) and the fact his daddy was the New Orleans QB, and one couldn't help but feel that karma was weighing in heavily in New Orleans favor in this game.
Not to take away from the teams ability to get the job by any stretch, but if that was what it was all about then the game would have been a lot closer than it was. But when you have that great karma on your side, there just isn't any way to lose . . .
Once again NFL films gets a great storybook setup when it puts together the super bowl 44 highlight film. Something to inspire generations of the future and suck them into the great money machine that is the NFL.
It was a good game. I'm glad that the Saints won on their first visit. Congratulations New Orleans Saints!
The Colts had better hurry up and get on the plane in teh morning bright and early. If they don't they may not get here until Thursday sometime! :icon_twisted:
I wouldn't be surprised if they're already at KMSY. :wink:
Saints simply outplayed 'em.
Ravens signed Dante Stallworth, who was released by the Browns.
(He was released because he just got out of jail for killing a pedestrian while driving under the influence.)
Just add him to Ray Lewis's total.
Wow. . . that is disappointing!
Looks like they're going to be filing charges against Ben Roethlisberger.
Link (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/09/da-to-announce-decision-in-roethlisberger-case-on-monday/?related=1)
Ruthlessburger?
Quote from: Locutus on April 09, 2010, 04:10:18 PM
Looks like they're going to be filing charges against Ben Roethlisberger.
Link (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/09/da-to-announce-decision-in-roethlisberger-case-on-monday/?related=1)
The Hamburgler, as I like to call him, may be going to the big house?
Looks that way guys! District attorneys don't usually call press conferences to announce that they're NOT going to file charges.
I wonder what Kimmi will say when she sees this. The Steelers are her team.
Man. At first I suspected it was an end run someone was trying to initiate against him, but apparently there must be some validity to the claim! :spooked:
If so he's a first class idiot for allowing that to happen!
Or maybe not.......
http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=5071769&top
ESPN says no charges. He's lucky.
Quote from: Locutus on April 09, 2010, 08:20:23 PM
Or maybe not.......
http://m.espn.go.com/nfl/story?storyId=5071769&top
ESPN says no charges. He's lucky.
Probably some skank gold digger looking for a meal ticket. It's a damned shame that men with means have to isolate themselves from these morons or risk having to give up some of their pie! :rant:
Well, it appears that the NFL may have a lil somethin tuh say about ol Hamburglers behavior, even if the law doesn't. . .
AND he has lost a sponsor - "Big Ben's Beef Jerky" . . . already. . .
Givin' this one a bump since this is preseason weekend kickoff. The NFL will be in full swing again before we know it.
I am anxious to have a look at Painter under pressure. The Colts vs the 49ers on right now! 8)
Colts up 10 -0 with a little over 6 left in the first quarter. Manning has played first 2 series. Suspect Painter is up for the rest of the game.
:biggrin:
SanFran has finally reached Colts territory for the first time in the game! Smith has burned them long once on this drive and just missed burning them again!
:biggrin: 27 - 10 49ers! :food24: :rotfl:
UPDATE 34-10 49ers - in the 4th.
Anyone else take a look at the Colts Helmets today? Given their dismal performance on the scoreboard I thought the helmets were quite appropriate. The two horse shoes on the back of the helmet were a clear indication of why it was they got their rear ends handed to them; they got kicked in the back of the head by a mule! :biggrin:
That must have only been broadcast locally there. I looked for the game once the rain started here, but couldn't find it.
Quote from: Locutus on August 15, 2010, 08:53:53 PM
That must have only been broadcast locally there. I looked for the game once the rain started here, but couldn't find it.
You didn't miss much, from a Colts fan perspective anyway. :biggrin:
Favre watch 2010 is about to create a significant announcement! :biggrin:
I'm SO sick him!
He'll end up playing like he always does. :rolleyes:
The Minnesota Vikings QB said Wednesday that the specter of the team's overtime loss in last season's NFC title game hung over him all offseason and helped drive his decision to return for a 20th NFL season on Tuesday.
"I couldn't help but think about football all the time, but I didn't want to think about it," Favre said after practicing with the Vikings for the first time since training camp opened. Brett Favre returned to the Vikings on Tuesday.
"I was so close, so close to getting these guys to the Super Bowl." . . .
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Somebody must have missed telling Brett that close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. ;D
Quote from: Locutus on August 18, 2010, 09:51:02 PM
Somebody must have missed telling Brett that close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. ;D
:biggrin:
Quote from: Locutus on August 18, 2010, 09:51:02 PM
Somebody must have missed telling Brett that close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. ;D
Well, yeah. An' nuclear weapons.
Game 1 of the 2010 season tomorrow night.
Brett Favre invades NOLA to kick off the season. Go Saints!
8)
I hope it is a great game!
Houston is going to take the pipe today!!!!!!!! :yes: 8)
GO COLTS! Light Them UP!
88 for Houston got his knee blown out! That looked VERY bad!!!! :spooked:
And the Colts are playing terribly! :rant:
Dolphins scratched out a win today at Buffalo. The way the Bills were playing, they should have won by more, but the offense appeared to still think it was the preseason.
Colts played better in the pre-season than they did today, with the same result - got their butts handed to them and they were manhandled. Houston lived in the Colts backfield and Manning never really had a decent set of downs because of it. Combined with butterfingers being the name of the game for the receivers, and an offensive line that couldn't remember the plays or snap counts, the Colts spent more time going backwards than they did toward the goal line.
A truly shabby showing to say the least. So much for the perfect season! Got that out of the way in game one!
Vick is putting on a show in trying to tie the pack at the 2 minute warning!
Sux to be the Cowboys at the half! Skins have them halfway scalped!
(But I am happy for McNab) :biggrin:
Yeah me too. The Cowboys gave 'em that touchdown there with 4 seconds to go in the half. ;D
:biggrin:
MNF double header tonight. I'm going to see if the Jets can back up all of the trash they've been talking and then watch another one of my favorite teams (the Chargers) in the second game. :yes:
Jets got punked and the chargers. . . well. . . they got grounded! :biggrin:
I'm glad about the Jets. They were talkin' too much trash and got taken down a couple of notches. :yes:
Quote from: Locutus on September 14, 2010, 02:37:51 PM
I'm glad about the Jets. They were talkin' too much trash and got taken down a couple of notches. :yes:
An awful lot of last years contenders came out of the gates rusty and looking inept! And they got their asses handed to them.
I really think that these pre-season games are not being utilized correctly. While I understand the need to evaluate those candidates that are new to the teams, the need to shake off the rust is being ignored in the vet players to the point where they are really nasty in a lot of cases!
It was never any clearer when I observed most of the players sucking air in the first quarter of every single game I watched. These guys were/are not ready for NFL football! I expect it will be week 4 or 5 before things get back to where they were at the end of the season last year. And those teams (like the Colts) who rested their players in the last 2 or 3 games last year, those players have not seen a real game in 8 or 9 months! Are we really doing them any favors in sitting them and then ignoring them during the pre-season????
Manning bowl 2010 this Sunday.
My money is on the Giants in this one! :yes:
Sanders is out and I predict he will be traded/released soon. . .
Time to dust off that Manning drinking game.
Jets are taking it to the Pats, and I hope they spank em! :yes:
Bears looked good today, going 2 and 0! :spooked:
Houston punked the Redskins big time in OT. Called a time out at the instant the kicker was going for the game winning field goal, which he made but it didn't count. He missed the next try. Then the Texans went back down field and kicked a FG of their own to win it!
And Favre goes 0 and 2! :rolleyes:
Peyton took Eli to the wood shed tonight! :biggrin:
Quote from: Palehorse on September 19, 2010, 11:44:58 PM
Peyton took Eli to the wood shed tonight! :biggrin:
The Giants looked like crapola.
Dolphins = MASSIVE FAIL! :mad:
NFL shamed into major fines for helmet-to-helmet hits.
Finally caught up w/Harrison.
I don't think fines are going to do it. They're going to have to start hitting them with suspensions for several games to put a serious dent in the problem. If a coach knows he's going to lose a player for a few games because of that crap, only then will they take notice and do something about it.
Quote from: Locutus on October 19, 2010, 08:31:41 PM
I don't think fines are going to do it. They're going to have to start hitting them with suspensions for several games to put a serious dent in the problem. If a coach knows he's going to lose a player for a few games because of that crap, only then will they take notice and do something about it.
Agreed! These guys are multi millionaires and I am sure most of them budget a certain amount out of each years revenues for work related fines; writing them off as necessary costs associated with being a marquee player and maintaining that status. They know that big hits get big playtime on the highlight reels, and their perceived popularity rises with each entry.
Suspend them for multiple games for each infraction, and when they stop seeing those game checks they'll stop the crap!
I agree too, I'm mean if you are going to penalize them, hit them where it hurts....a suspension will get everyone's attention....
I think the NFL is getting like NASCAR...they are making equipment too safe...to the point where there is no longer any fear factor....NASCAR, those guys have no problem wrecking at 200 mph any longer, so they are way more aggressive and less driving ability is required....with the NFL, these defensive players are like kamikaze's out there...it seemed like it was safer back when they had leather helmets...they respected each other better...
What I don't understand is the Harrison hit was not a penalty on the field but the NFL took it upon themselves to fine him anyway. He also was fined higher than the rest because they consider him a chronic abuser of the rule.
This is football people! You signed up for this. :rolleyes:
Because the referees were negligent does not make the hit legal (according to rules, not the law).
Accidental hits are understandable. Deliberate attempts to injure (despite the denials by Harrison) are not within the rules.
I played the game through college. Even when we played our fiercest rivals, no one that I knew at the time tried to destroy any opponent and hurt them badly enough to take them out of the game.
If Harrison's situation were reversed and he was the person being blind-sided or hit from behind, I have a sneaking suspicion that he would be singing a different tune.
Of course, Steeler fans will certainly disagree.
But, then, look at their quarterback.
Indianapolis Colts punter Pat McAfee has been arrested on suspicion of public intoxication this morning after he reportedly took a predawn swim in the Central Canal in Broad Ripple.
Indianapolis Metropolitan Police were called to the canal at Broad Ripple and College shortly before 5 a.m. after a report of a man swimming in the canal of the popular nightlife district.
A 911 call was received about 4:45 a.m. this morning from a woman who said a wet, shirtless man tried to get into her car at a traffic signal at Broad Ripple Avenue, according to WTHR (Channel 13). The woman said he had "blond, shaggy hair wearing jeans," and that he "looks like he's freezing."
"I think he's out of it," the caller told the dispatcher.
Police later found McAfee, 23, in the area, shirtless and soaking wet, and arrested the second-year Colts player at the corner of Broad Ripple and College avenues, IMPD spokesman Lt. Jeff Duhamell said.
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Police say McAfee smelled of alcohol, his eyes were watery and bloodshot and his speech slurred. When police asked McAfee if he had been swimming in the canal, he replied, "I'm not sure," according to an IMPD report. He later said, "it was raining," and said his shirt was "in the water," according to the report.
When asked how much he had to drink McAfee replied, "A lot because I am drunk."
McAfee asked if he could hail a cab or walk home but the officer told him there were no cabs that late and that it wasn't safe for him to walk.
"I know I am drunk but does that mean I cannot walk home?" McAfee asked, according to the report. Police also said the kicker had a hard time standing up.
Police say McAfee took a portable breathalyzer test and recorded a blood-alcohol content of 0.15 — nearly twice the level to be considered legally intoxicated if driving.
Duhamell said McAfee might have been in the canal, which runs alongside Westfield Boulevard but no witnesses saw him in the water.
http://www.indystar.com/article/20101020/SPORTS03/101020001/Colts-punter-Pat-McAfee-held-in-public-intoxication-case?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|IndyStar.com (http://www.indystar.com/article/20101020/SPORTS03/101020001/Colts-punter-Pat-McAfee-held-in-public-intoxication-case?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Ctext%7CIndyStar.com)
Dallas Clark's season is over. The Indianapolis Colts' Pro Bowl tight end will undergo wrist surgery next week and be placed on injured reserve.
http://www.indystar.com/article/20101022/SPORTS03/101022014/Dallas-Clark-out-for-the-season?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|IndyStar.com (http://www.indystar.com/article/20101022/SPORTS03/101022014/Dallas-Clark-out-for-the-season?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Ctext%7CIndyStar.com)
Colts are dropping like flies. . . :mad:
Green Bay vs Minnesota is looking to be a shootout! 8)
Well, well, well. . . Looks like Dallas is getting a new coach sometime soon. . . :biggrin:
Giants beat the Cowboys and took ol Romo out in the process! :smile: The coach will take the blame and ol Jones will fire him. . . Just watch. . .
(um....Giants took out the Cowboys)
Could not have happened to a nicer group; especially good ol' boy J. Jones.
Quote from: followsthewolf on October 26, 2010, 06:15:23 PM
(um....Giants took out the Cowboys)
Could not have happened to a nicer group; especially good ol' boy J. Jones.
Opps. . . glad you were paying attention! Obviously I wasn't! :biggrin:
Romo might just be OFTS. :yes:
Good for the Cowgirls. :rotfl:
Quote from: Locutus on October 26, 2010, 06:18:23 PM
Romo might just be OFTS. :yes:
Good for the Cowgirls. :rotfl:
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Broken collar bone will do that to yah! :biggrin:
I was watching off and on at the bowling alley last night. I got some pretty nasty looks from some of the bowlers when I "yahoo'd" it up when I saw Romo wincing in pain on his back last night! :biggrin: ( i should have spied the cowboys jersey on them beforehand I suppose). . . :rolleyes:
Quote from: Locutus on October 26, 2010, 06:18:23 PM
Romo might just be OFTS. :yes:
Good for the Cowgirls. :rotfl:
From the sound of it, I'd bet you're right -- and I agree with the sentiment you expressed.
I don't see how ol Jerry can keep his pet coach now though. Those Dallas fans will lynch him for sure if he doesn't toss him out! :yes:
But I can see Jerry keeping him on for the rest of the season though. That way he can blame him for Romo's fragility and the teams self destruction!
Bet a lot of cowboy fans are out searching for a voodoo queen to resurrect ol' Tom (the hat) Landry to return them to their halcyon days.
Man. . . is there an NFL coach that is worse than Wade Phillips?
The Cowboys are getting pounded by Jacksonville and all sad sack Phillips can do is sit on the sidelines looking like he is going to cry! :biggrin:
Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch.
Quote from: followsthewolf on October 31, 2010, 04:46:09 PM
Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch.
Well I have to agree. I wonder what Phillips has on Jerry? Maybe pictures of him participating in naked cow tipping? :biggrin:
Favre just got laid out and carted off. ;D
He shoulda' stayed in retirement. :yes:
Quote from: Locutus on October 31, 2010, 06:51:56 PM
Favre just got laid out and carted off. ;D
He shoulda' stayed in retirement. :yes:
10 stitches later and he's good to go next game. . . You aren't going to put the QB Zombie out that easily! :biggrin:
Someone needs to give him a season ending injury.
:icon_twisted:
Quote from: Locutus on October 31, 2010, 06:51:56 PM
Favre just got laid out and carted off. ;D
He shoulda' stayed in retirement. :yes:
He may be one of the toughest SOB's to have ever played this game....MORE of these punk premadonna's need to pay attention to this guy, and take few lessons to what the NFL is supposed to be about. I admire the hell out of him, and hope he has a great, season, despite the slow start.
Eugene, Oregon - Along with being an analyst on NBC's Football Night in America, Dungy is enjoying being a fan.
Eyewitness Sports Director, Dave Calabro, went to Dungy's new turf in Oregon where he now has a special interest in college football.
Eugene, Oregon is Duck Country, where Tony Dungy and his family have really taken to the local scene, like Ducks take to water.
No Colts blue and white here. It's all about supporting their son, number 19 is freshman Eric Dungy.
They even bought a second home in this small town, where it has nothing to do with the family's last name.
"I think that's what Eric kind of sensed when he came out here to visit. He wasn't the coach of the Bucs son,or whatever, he was just another recruit from Florida and we feel the same way it's a small town atmosphere. Some people recognize you, but they aren't really into pro football here, they are into the Ducks," Tony Dungy said. "Just being one of the Duck dads, a Duck family has been great."
For the Dungy's this is pure joy, simple family fun, a time to bond and make memories.
Five years ago they suffered thru the tragic death of their oldest son James. Now, they embrace the present, watching Eric grow into a young man.
"Its pretty neat, I remember my dad coming to watch me play and just being that kind of proud papa and to get back into the college atmosphere is so much different than the NFL. The Bands, cheerleaders , students, it was special, but it is nice to just be able to blend in and just enjoy life," Dungy said.
Remember how Tony Dungy was on the sidelines when he was coaching the Colts? He was very calm. Well guess what? As a fan, he is also mellow yellow.
"I am pretty mellow most of the time watching, looking for the replays. I know the offense a little bit from Eric and him describing it to me," Dungy said. "So I kind of see what is going , but as much as I enjoy being a fan, there is still that coach in me I guess."
Just a few miles from the rowdy Oregon Stadium, the Dungy's enjoy their privacy in a modest home.
Dungy talks about being home a little more these days with his kids.
1-year-old Jason is the youngest of seven children. There is a picture of Jason being held by President Obama on a table. On the wall, drawings of the Dungy's children. They have adopted four.
"As a Christian, you always think we have to be pro-life and encourage women to not have abortions. When you profess that, then what are the alternatives what do you do to help when women do make that decision and that's what my wife hit me with and it made so much sense we have the ability to do it, " Dungy said.
He's a proud father, soaking up the moment, enjoying a new chapter of his life, far away from the bright lights of the NFL spotlight.
http://www.wthr.com/story/13421457/dungys-new-turf?ref=nf (http://www.wthr.com/story/13421457/dungys-new-turf?ref=nf)
I have to say that Dungy, once again, seems to have got it right. Here is one Christian I actually admire!
LMAO!! Vikings waive Randy Moss.
Report: Vikings waive Randy Moss
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on November 1, 2010 2:58 PM ET
Randy Moss' bizarre press conference Sunday night wound up being his farewell to the Minnesota Vikings. It's safe to say this time is for good.
NFL Network's Michael Lombardi reports that the Vikings waived Moss on Monday. At his Monday press conference, Vikings coach Brad Childress mentioned that he allowed Moss to stay back in Boston for a few days before re-joining the team. It looks like he can stay there.
We have no reason to believe the story is not true, but PFT can report via a league source that Moss is not yet aware that he's been released.
Moss would now be subject to leave waiver rules and could be claimed by any team. (After the trade deadline, even veterans are subject to waivers.) The Bills would have the first crack at him because they have the worst record.
Lombardi writes that Childress inform the Vikings in a team meeting that Moss was out. Vikings linebacker Ben Leber has since confirmed the news.
Perhaps there was more to the story of Moss not returning with the team on Sunday night. It's more likely that Moss' press conference frustrated Childress more than he let on. The team saw the direction his lack of cooperation with the team was going.
Either way, two different teams have decided in the last month that Moss' declining production was no longer worth all the trouble of keeping him around.
At least the Patriots got a third-round pick out of it.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/01/report-vikings-waive-randy-moss/?related=1
Moss - punked again! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Houston - You have a problem!
GO COLTS!
Just saw an interview with Coach Dungy on WTHR. I have to say the more I hear from Dungy, the more I read his books, the more I see of him, the more I admire him.
I once spoke to Jeff Saturday about him and he had nothing but staunch praise for him. No cameras, no lights, no audience, just a few moments of discussion between him and I and he couldn't say enough good things about him!
He is the only argument for leading a Christian life that I believe stands the test of credibility. While he may very well be the exception to that lifestyle, he is one credible exception as far as I am concerned.
He talks the talk and he walks it each and every day;publicly and privately. I am sure he is not perfect but in my mind he represents the best hope for Christianity on the planet this day! So much so that if he were to hold the position of pastor at a church near me I would go to that church each and every week! :spooked: :yes:
Quote from: Palehorse on November 01, 2010, 06:43:52 PM
Just saw an interview with Coach Dungy on WTHR. I have to say the more I hear from Dungy, the more I read his books, the more I see of him, the more I admire him.
I once spoke to Jeff Saturday about him and he had nothing but staunch praise for him. No cameras, no lights, no audience, just a few moments of discussion between him and I and he couldn't say enough good things about him!
He is the only argument for leading a Christian life that I believe stands the test of credibility. While he may very well be the exception to that lifestyle, he is one credible exception as far as I am concerned.
He talks the talk and he walks it each and every day;publicly and privately. I am sure he is not perfect but in my mind he represents the best hope for Christianity on the planet this day! So much so that if he were to hold the position of pastor at a church near me I would go to that church each and every week! :spooked: :yes:
I had a unique opportunity to meet him at an "Easter Breakfast" that our company hosted a few years back. He was the keynote speaker. I went up to talk to him after it was over, there was only a few people left, so I went for it...and he spoke to me like we was friends from the past. I asked him about IF he ever got to know Walter Payton, and his eyes lit up, and he spoke to me for about 10 minutes, about his playing days against him and some personal time he spent with him....He told me that was the most refreshing question that anyone has asked him in a long time. I saw him at another speaking function that I got to attend, and when I walked up to him and introduced my self, he said.."OH, yeah, the sweetness fan!!"...and shook my hand. Palehorse, I agree with you he does talk the talk and he walks it each and every day;publicly and privately. He is a really great guy.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 02, 2010, 08:53:40 AM
I had a unique opportunity to meet him at an "Easter Breakfast" that our company hosted a few years back. He was the keynote speaker. I went up to talk to him after it was over, there was only a few people left, so I went for it...and he spoke to me like we was friends from the past. I asked him about IF he ever got to know Walter Payton, and his eyes lit up, and he spoke to me for about 10 minutes, about his playing days against him and some personal time he spent with him....He told me that was the most refreshing question that anyone has asked him in a long time. I saw him at another speaking function that I got to attend, and when I walked up to him and introduced my self, he said.."OH, yeah, the sweetness fan!!"...and shook my hand. Palehorse, I agree with you he does talk the talk and he walks it each and every day;publicly and privately. He is a really great guy.
I have met him a couple of times through my alma matter, which is the same way I met Jeff Saturday. I found both of these guys to be VERY credible and down to earth. My experiences are very similar to yours Hank. It also amazed me that in Dungy's case he remembered our conversation and me though a year or more had passed between!
I had a very positive impression of him and so when I met Saturday I asked him specifically if Coach Dungy is really the person his public persona projects, or if he is like everybody else. Saturday did not hesitate to say that with Dungy what you see is exactly what you get with him. He is not one to hide who and what he is and he is the same at work as he is at home. . . :smile:
I am also impressed by his honest support of pro life, even though I do not agree with it. He not only says he supports pro life views, but he lives it as well. In an interview I saw this week, he said that his wife is the one who pointed out the contradiction in their lives and their message where this is concerned. She said, "If we are telling women not to abort their pregnancies, then how are we providing the support necessary to allow them to do so?" The have adopted 4 children as result of that dialog. . . He said in the interview, I was astonished to find I had overlooked that aspect and we made a commitment to do what we could.
I hope society doesn't try to tear him down as they do almost everyone else. And I hope that if they do they fail miserably.
Local press is asking whether Randy Moss is going to be pursued by the Colts. . . :spooked:
WHY would they want to do that? :confused:
Austin Collie just got hurt after being rammed helmet to helmet by an Eagles player. It looks VERY serious and I have to say I am afraid for the young man!
Quote from: Palehorse on November 07, 2010, 05:33:18 PM
Austin Collie just got hurt after being rammed helmet to helmet by an Eagles player. It looks VERY serious and I have to say I am afraid for the young man!
http://www.indystar.com/article/20101107/SPORTS03/101107011/Colts-WR-Austin-Collie-recovering-after-being-taken-off-field-on-stretcher (http://www.indystar.com/article/20101107/SPORTS03/101107011/Colts-WR-Austin-Collie-recovering-after-being-taken-off-field-on-stretcher)
There is a replay of the incident at the link above. Right now the only word I have heard is that he has a concussion. However, if you watch the replay you will see that Collie assumes a seizure like posture once he is hit. This could be career ending for this young man if it is that serious! :spooked:
Eagles were penalized 15 yards for the hit because it was helmet to helmet contact of a defenseless player. . . Right or wrong, this young man may potentially be in very serious trouble! (Collie) :spooked:
First of all, I hope and pray that Collie is okay and it is nothing too serious, secondly, I hope he can return to the Colts very soon. Thirdly, I think that they hit he received should not have been penalized. There is only so much a defender can do. It looked to me that there was not much he could have done to avoid the hit, the way Austin bounced around. I think it was a manner of being hit in an awkward way that caused the problem. There IS a certain risk involved in playing this game that everyone in the NFL is quite aware of.
What I did find as a classless act was the defender who was prouncing around the field with anger because of the call, while a motionless person was laying on the field.....and the Philly fans who was booing....the are on my official..."They Suck" list. :rant:
Hey Henry, this will probably stun you, but I must say I agree totally with your last two posts. :yes: :biggrin:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 08, 2010, 09:01:08 AM
First of all, I hope and pray that Collie is okay and it is nothing too serious, secondly, I hope he can return to the Colts very soon. Thirdly, I think that they hit he received should not have been penalized. There is only so much a defender can do. It looked to me that there was not much he could have done to avoid the hit, the way Austin bounced around. I think it was a manner of being hit in an awkward way that caused the problem. There IS a certain risk involved in playing this game that everyone in the NFL is quite aware of.
Yep, I agree too.
In fact I felt it was wrong to penalize them until:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 08, 2010, 09:21:00 AM
What I did find as a classless act was the defender who was prouncing around the field with anger because of the call, while a motionless person was laying on the field.....and the Philly fans who was booing....the are on my official..."They Suck" list. :rant:
THAT was worthy of unsportsman like conduct and IMHO was worthy of the 15 yard penalty! :rant:
Well, well, well. . . After a 45-7 pounding from the Pack, the cowboys owner Jones finally pulled the trigger on that bawling Wade Phillips! He is out and and interim coach has been appointed. . . Too little, too late as far as the cowboys are concerned. But, cannot say I am sorry for them at all! :smile:
Yeah, geez, isn't that a cryin' shame for "America's Team"?
:sarcasm:
If the Colts play the way they did today against New England next week, they are toast!
LMAO!
Giants stadium had a transformer blow and the field faded to black! :biggrin: Cowgirls are kicking their ass too! 16 -20 minute delay due to the resulting power outage, and now they still don't have all systems up and running either! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
The only thing they have running is the scoreboard. No Big screens, no graphics, no replays, no ref mics, nothing! :biggrin:
Great! :rolleyes: NE vs Pittsburg - Hamburgler verses The Pretty Boy. . . :rolleyes:
I wonder what is on the movie channels tonight. . .
Vicks spanking McNabb and the Redskins. :biggrin: 59 - 21 Eagles in the 4th! :biggrin:
Michael Vick made a mistake a few years back. He went to prison and paid his debt. He continues his work against animal cruelty and publicly speaks out against it, while admitting to his past mistakes. The Philadelphia Eagles took a chance on him when no one else dared to, and the past couple of weeks he has shown that their risk was not ill conceived.
Nothing silences your critics better than a job well done! I hope Vick can continue to perform at the levels he has demonstrated the last two weeks. I wish him success equal to his commitment and dedication, and forgiveness.
If he keeps this up he may very well be in the running for MVP at the end of the season!
Quote from: Palehorse on November 16, 2010, 11:27:55 AM
Michael Vick made a mistake a few years back. He went to prison and paid his debt. He continues his work against animal cruelty and publicly speaks out against it, while admitting to his past mistakes. The Philadelphia Eagles took a chance on him when no one else dared to, and the past couple of weeks he has shown that their risk was not ill conceived.
Nothing silences your critics better than a job well done! I hope Vick can continue to perform at the levels he has demonstrated the last two weeks. I wish him success equal to his commitment and dedication, and forgiveness.
If he keeps this up he may very well be in the running for MVP at the end of the season!
I am in agreement with you on this...
Quote from: Palehorse on November 14, 2010, 04:11:23 PM
If the Colts play the way they did today against New England next week, they are toast!
Stick a fork in them! The Colts move to 6-4 on the back of devastating injuries this season, and a bunch of inexperienced replacements. . . :rolleyes:
They almost pulled it off though and made a game of it anyway against the <gack> Pats. . . . :mad:
I started out this season saying that the Dolphins were an 8-8 team at best. They're currently 5-5, so my prediction is holding thus far. Looking at the remaining schedule, I think 8-8 may be EXACTLY where they end up. Stay tuned and see my analysis below.
12 Nov 28 MIA @ OAK Oakland Coliseum 4:05 PM Tickets CBS 713 91 (MIA)
123 (OAK)
I say that's a loss. Record 5-6
13 Dec 05 CLE @ MIA Sun Life Stadium 1:00 PM Tickets CBS 705 126 (CLV)
153 (MIA)
Probably a win. Record 6-6
14 Dec 12 MIA @ NYJ New Meadowlands Stadium 4:15 PM Tickets CBS 715 122 (MIA)
153 (NYJ)
Loss. Record 6-7
15 Dec 19 BUF @ MIA Sun Life Stadium 1:00 PM Tickets CBS 706 127 (BUF)
144 (MIA)
I'll put this in the win column. Record 7-7
16 Dec 26 DET @ MIA Sun Life
Stadium 1:00 PM Tickets FOX 708 122 (DET)
Win. The Lions suck. Record 8-7.
155 (MIA)
17 Jan 02 MIA @ NE Gillette Stadium 1:00 PM Tickets CBS 704 123 (MIA)
157 (NE)
Definite loss unless the Pats end up with home field throughout before this game and rest starters. Record 8-8.
:biggrin:
The Vikings have fired head coach Brad Childress. . . Among the mis-steps he has committed this season: Failing to confer with ownership before releasing Randy Moss, fighting with Brett Favre, and getting pimp - slapped by the Packers last night, 31- 3, taking his team to 3-7 for the season and all but ensuring they are out of the playoffs this year. . .
Bears barely win over the Eagles. They lead most of the game (Bears) but if Vick had just another 2 minutes in the game the Eagles would have beat them.
Colts are getting pimp slapped already! :spooked:
33 to 14 Bolts right now, and the Bolts are knocking on the door again. . . now 36-14 Bolts! :spooked:
and yet we are STILL in a tie for first.....................IF, we can get our act together, we can still make something of this season.
13 12/5 DALLAS COWBOYS 4:15 PM FOX SHOULD be win.
14 12/9 @ Tennessee Titans 8:20 PM NFL Network Maybe a win?
15 12/19 JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS 1:00 PM CBS Loss in the crystal ball!
16 12/26 @ Oakland Raiders 4:05 PM CBS Another loss in the crystal ball.
17 1/2 TENNESSEE TITANS 1:00 PM CBS MAYBE
I think we beat Dallas
and the Titans,
Jacksonville will be our real test, but would not bet on the Colts..
Hopefully by the time we get to the Raiders, we have Clark back and some problems worked out...
again, we SHOULD beat the Titans....
I predict...10-6 at the worst.....
and how bout dem BEARS!!!....played REALLY GOOD yesterday and finally acted like a REAL winning team.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 29, 2010, 12:16:32 PM
I think we beat Dallas
and the Titans,
Jacksonville will be our real test, but would not bet on the Colts..
Hopefully by the time we get to the Raiders, we have Clark back and some problems worked out...
again, we SHOULD beat the Titans....
I predict...10-6 at the worst.....
and how bout dem BEARS!!!....played REALLY GOOD yesterday and finally acted like a REAL winning team.
The Titans historically have been problematic at times for the Colts, and with the sick, lame, and lazy list so long for the Colts starters I believe this will be the case in both games against them to end the season. (8 - 8 is a very real possibility for the Colts unless these rookies get the practice time in to get the timings in sync. Clearly that is a HUGE challenge facing the Colts. Where the starters that are disabled are concerned, most of them have been out for so long now that timing is going to be a key challenge for them as well, and this deep into the season there is little hope of them achieving it in time to salvage the season).
Dallas Clark is out until next season, so there is no help there. We MIGHT get Collie back, but to tell you the truth I believe the boy has a major issue with the concussion thing and it may be a career ending issue where he is concerned. Adai, who knows and at least he can block. . . .
That the Colts are tied for 1st in the division is as much an indication of the sorry state of the teams in it as it is for the Bears. Both teams, should they make the playoffs, will be eliminated in the first round. That's my prediction. The AFC South and NFC North do not contain a team that is capable of winning it all the way things stand now.
Yesterday the Bears got lucky because the Eagles didn't come out of the gate with their A game. It took them too long to adjust to the Bears and they paid for it with a 5 point loss. Had they achieved it 3 minutes sooner the Eagles would have snatched the game from them by game end. . .
And now the Cowgirls are beating up on the Colts today! Manning has already thrown 2 interceptions, 1 for a touchdown, as the Cowgirls are 3:18 from taking a 17 - 7 lead into the half. . . :eek:
Hope the Colts pull it out.
Can't stand Jerry Jones.
Quote from: followsthewolf on December 05, 2010, 05:21:13 PM
Hope the Colts pull it out.
Can't stand Jerry Jones.
Yup! I agree. Though I am glad they fired that sad sack of a head coach they had, it does little to improve my perception of them thanks to JJ and his greedy and selfish persona. . .
I know the Cowgirls have improved since the firing, but sweet baby Jeebus hangin on the cross! Now they are suddenly capable of pounding the Colts?
Colts lose this one stick a fork in them they are done for the season!
The Cowboys are the Yankees of football.
The Colts have so many injuries, I don't hold too much hope; then again, the Cowboys just missed the field goal, so there is a shot.
Quote from: followsthewolf on December 05, 2010, 05:29:30 PM
The Cowboys are the Yankees of football.
The Colts have so many injuries, I don't hold too much hope; then again, the Cowboys just missed the field goal, so there is a shot.
All I have to say is they had better come out for the second half locked and loaded for bear, or they're going to lose this one.
Yeah, I forget the percentage of starters the Colts have on the lame list, but it is very high and certainly enough to drastically screw them up.
But then again, it just goes to prove that the quarterback is not the only key position. . .
Quote from: Palehorse on December 05, 2010, 05:32:02 PM
All I have to say is they had better come out for the second half locked and loaded for bear, or they're going to lose this one.
Yeah, I forget the percentage of starters the Colts have on the lame list, but it is very high and certainly enough to drastically screw them up.
But then again, it just goes to prove that the quarterback is not the only key position. . .
It was a team game years ago when I played it in high school and college, and it hasn't changed in that respect.
It's just that when you've won as many MVP awards as Manning has, everyone expects miracles.
Well, they came out on fire - TD pass to Wayne i just over a minute to pull within three.
It is indeed a team sport, and sometimes fans forget that fact; especially when they have never played a minute of organized football in their lives! :biggrin:
Manning just threw another int.
Looks like he's having trouble locating his noobie receivers so he can go through his progressions.
Quote from: followsthewolf on December 05, 2010, 06:11:29 PM
Manning just threw another int.
Looks like he's having trouble locating his noobie receivers so he can go through his progressions.
Yeah, the noobs are not running the routes correctly, and Manning's game is all about the timings. We see that with Reggie's two catches in this game.
The problem now is that IF any of the vets get well and can return, they're not going to be any better than the noobs at first, and I am not sure there is enough time for them to get back up to speed at this stage of the season.
Same old, same old.
Usually comes down to who is injured and how deep the bench is.
HOLY SHIAT!!!!
Blocked punt and recovered for a td.
WOW!!!!!
Quote from: followsthewolf on December 05, 2010, 06:31:22 PM
Same old, same old.
Usually comes down to who is injured and how deep the bench is.
HOLY SHIAT!!!!
Blocked punt and recovered for a td.
WOW!!!!!
:hamster: :hamster: :hamster: :hamster: :hamster: :hamster: :hamster: :hamster: :hamster: :hamster: :hamster: :hamster: :hamster: :hamster: :hamster: :hamster: :hamster: :hamster: :hamster: :hamster: :hamster: :hamster: :hamster: :hamster: :hamster: :hamster: :hamster:
Special teams baby!
BUT. . . the cowgirls are making the colts look stupid and they are now ahead by 7 thanks to a 2 point conversion on a touchdown that should have been a field goal except for a stupid leverage penalty on the field goal. . . :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
See what I mean about Wayne and Manning? :biggrin:
OT baby!
DAMMIT! Interception number 4! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Colts are toast now. Cowgirls are already in FG range. . .
Cowgirls win! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Thanks to Manning. :rotfl:
Quote from: Palehorse on November 29, 2010, 11:49:48 AM
13 12/5 DALLAS COWBOYS 4:15 PM FOX SHOULD be win.
14 12/9 @ Tennessee Titans 8:20 PM NFL Network Maybe a win?
15 12/19 JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS 1:00 PM CBS Loss in the crystal ball!
16 12/26 @ Oakland Raiders 4:05 PM CBS Another loss in the crystal ball.
17 1/2 TENNESSEE TITANS 1:00 PM CBS MAYBE
Cowboys - LOSS 6-6PredictionsTitans - will be another loss 6-7
Jacksonville - another loss 6-8
Oakland - yet another loss 6-9
Titans - maybe a win. . . 7 - 9
For the first time in 9 years the colts will not make the playoffs! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Wonder whether the rookie who made the interception was lucky or that good.
And, btw, what IS wrong with the Dolphins?
Maybe a better question is -- what is right with them?
Quote from: followsthewolf on December 05, 2010, 07:30:36 PM
Wonder whether the rookie who made the interception was lucky or that good.
And, btw, what IS wrong with the Dolphins?
Maybe a better question is -- what is right with them?
My vote is luck, but who really knows?
The fish??? They're still around? :icon_twisted:
Quote from: followsthewolf on December 05, 2010, 07:30:36 PM
And, btw, what IS wrong with the Dolphins?
Maybe a better question is -- what is right with them?
The Dolphins blow. I still say they're 8-8 this year, and serve as a prime example of the fallacy of Bill Parcells magic fix up for whatever ails ya'. :mad:
I still hold out some hope for the Packers though since my other team (the Chargers) also lost today.
Rothlesburger just got his nose broke! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
He's out. . .
LMAO!!
AH but he wasn't out!! :biggrin:
If Goodall doesn't announce a huge fine for the hit on Heath Miller, then we can go ahead and label him a Steeler hater!
Steelers steal another one! :razz:
Quote from: kimmi on December 06, 2010, 08:02:57 AM
AH but he wasn't out!! :biggrin:
If Goodall doesn't announce a huge fine for the hit on Heath Miller, then we can go ahead and label him a Steeler hater!
He was out for several plays anyway. And he looked to have been on the losing end of a hickey fight with all that blood on him. :biggrin:
BUT, if they don't fine that jackass that did that to him it will be clear they are biased against the Steelers for sure!
That was uncalled for and it looked to be intentional to me. . .
You can call it stealing another one, but just remember we not only had to steal it from the Ravens, but also the refs and Goodall too!
I have not heard of a fine in either hit yet. Ben had surgery on his nose today.
I'm just yankin' your chain Kim. :razz: :biggrin:
I knew his nose was broken!
Jets get emBARRassed.
(http://i56.tinypic.com/wsp9h4.jpg)
:rotfl:
haha Nice one Loc!
I figured the Colts fans would like that one Kim. ;D
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Sanders is now on the damned lame list. I look for the Titans to kick their ass tonight. . .
Quote from: Locutus on December 09, 2010, 11:55:46 AM
(http://i56.tinypic.com/wsp9h4.jpg)
:rotfl:
wow, makes you wonder, doesn't it.... :biggrin:
Quote from: Palehorse on December 09, 2010, 02:53:14 PM
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Sanders is now on the damned lame list. I look for the Titans to kick their ass tonight. . .
I don't think we will see Sanders in a Colts uniform ever again.... :no:
and it is a MUST win tonight... :spooked:
If Manning throws a few more cherries like he's been doing, it could turn into a long night.
Quote from: Locutus on December 09, 2010, 03:10:29 PM
If Manning throws a few more cherries like he's been doing, it could turn into a long night.
What is still amazing to me is.....how bad they are playing and they STILL nearly won 3 out 4 of their last losses, it was always a bone head play with a few seconds to go that cost them....
I don't think it is so much Manning as it is the second string and practice squad receivers he's trying to throw to. He's throwing to the right spots but the receivers aren't getting there. . .
Quote from: Palehorse on December 09, 2010, 04:36:49 PM
I don't think it is so much Manning as it is the second string and practice squad receivers he's trying to throw to. He's throwing to the right spots but the receivers aren't getting there. . .
I agree.............and they are still not really playing all that bad.....If we get Collie back and adai back, they could still be a force to reckon with...
I'm not ready to give up on the yet...
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 09, 2010, 04:57:34 PM
I agree.............and they are still not really playing all that bad.....If we get Collie back and adai back, they could still be a force to reckon with...
I'm not ready to give up on the yet...
I am . . . they're toast!
Quote from: Palehorse on December 09, 2010, 04:59:54 PM
I am . . . they're toast!
they control their own destiny right now, if they win out, they win the division.
I'm not holding my breath though... :no:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 09, 2010, 05:01:08 PM
they control their own destiny right now, . . .
That's the problem. With all those second stringers and practice squad members playng, they aren't going anywhere.
Yeah, I think they're toast too. Although I am going to watch the game tonight anyway.
Okay, so we squeaked past the Titans...I will take it. It looked as if the offense is looking a little more like it should.
Now we have 10 days to prepare for the Big Game....got to take this one week at a time.
:yes:
Viking vs Giants game was cancelled due to the blizzard up north. Then this morning the roof to the stadium collapsed under the weight of the snow. . . :biggrin:
Why can't WE get that kind of snow? :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Is that crazy or what!?!
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on December 12, 2010, 01:11:17 PM
Is that crazy or what!?!
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :yes: :yes: :yes:
Jax beat Oakland. . . :'(
Bears are getting bitch slapped by the Pats. . . :mad: :mad: :mad:
It may be "bear weather" but the pats are leading 27 - 0 with 320 to go in the 2nd! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Video from inside the stadium at the time of the collapse.
http://www.youtube.com/v/IxuxNLf87_Y
:spooked: :spooked:
Quote from: Locutus on December 12, 2010, 05:39:38 PM
Video from inside the stadium at the time of the collapse.
http://www.youtube.com/v/IxuxNLf87_Y
:spooked: :spooked:
Holy crap!!!!!!
ROTFLMAO! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
The network switched from the Pats vs bears game to the Mia vs Jets game! :biggrin:
Quote from: Palehorse on December 12, 2010, 05:42:02 PM
Holy crap!!!!!!
Good thing that it collapsed last night as opposed to during the game today. There would have been mass panic and perhaps serious injuries or even deaths.
Quote from: Locutus on December 12, 2010, 06:02:32 PM
Good thing that it collapsed last night as opposed to during the game today. There would have been mass panic and perhaps serious injuries or even deaths.
Could have been, but that would not have happened anyway. The league had previously cancelled the game due to weather yesterday and had postponed it until Monday.
Now it seems they are scrambling to find a domed venue in which to hold the game. . .
But had there actually been a game going on during that collapse, it would have been VERY dangerous indeed! :yes: :spooked:
That's always been a fear of mine, especially when attending games in domed stadiums that utlize those inflated roofs. I'm betting that they are going to lose popularity real quick now!
I just heard they're having the game in Detroit on Monday night.
Yeah.
The Colts offered, but the NFL decided to send the game to Motown.
Quote from: Locutus on December 12, 2010, 06:23:28 PM
I just heard they're having the game in Detroit on Monday night.
Bet that pisses off the home team fans!
One would think they could find a University nearby in which to play the game. . . But then, I'm betting the NFL doesn't want to give up the revenue stream on the sales of logo items. . . :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: But I guess most, if not all of the University facilities up there are outdoor facilities. . .
The Colts probably wanted to charge too much for the use of the facility and likely would have profited financially due to their "arrangement with the city" from the game being held there.
. . .
University of Minnesota officials told the NFL that TCF Bank Stadium was shut down for the winter and would take several days to prepare for another game. Removing all the snow, figuring out how to cram 64,000 Metrodome fans into a 50,000-seat stadium, and the fact that the Giants didn't bring any cold-weather gear with them all combined to make that site problematic.
"The one thing I was not crazy about was playing at the University of Minnesota, where they were predicting the wind chill would be minus-11," Mara said. "That would have created a lot of issues for us.". . .
. . .The NFL said Detroit was the best logistical fit given that Fox camera crews already were in town for the Lions' game against the Green Bay Packers on Sunday.
"There are still a lot of logistics up in the air, but we will do everything we can to make this a quality NFL game for the Vikings and Giants," Lions president Tom Lewand said.
The Vikings are refunding the cost of the tickets for the game for any fans who can't make it to Detroit. Those who do will be given priority seating along the 50-yard line at Ford Field, and the Lions will distribute free general admission tickets starting at 9 a.m. ET Monday.
The game will be broadcast in both local markets on Fox affiliates and also will be available as part of DirectTV's Sunday Ticket package.
It will be the first Monday night game at Ford Field and the first in Michigan since the Pontiac Silverdome hosted one in 2001... .
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81cd264d/article/metrodome-unsafe-so-vikingsgiants-game-moved-to-detroit?module=HP_headlines (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81cd264d/article/metrodome-unsafe-so-vikingsgiants-game-moved-to-detroit?module=HP_headlines)
According to the same article above, the metrodome roof has collapsed 4 times thus far! :eek:
They have been "lobbying" for a new stadium in which to play for at least 10 years, but thus far the state legislature has been unable or unwilling to fund such a venture. (GREAT IMHO!)
The Vikings lease runs through 2011 at the metrodome, but already a couple of investment groups from Los Angeles are looking to lure the Vikings from Minnesota and bring football back to LA. (Note: A subtle use of the NFL's favorite tactic - scare thm into compliance). The state legislature, like most across the country, is hard pressed to validate spending upwards of 700 million dollars on a footbal stadium in the present economy.
My guess is that this may very well be the last season for the Vikings to play in Minnesota. When the strike happens next year, that will finish out their lease on the metrodome, and unless the good people of the state of Minnesota are willing to pay for 2/3 of the cost of building a new facility for them, they are LA bound. . .
2012 - Can you say Los Angeles Vikings? :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Quote from: Palehorse on December 12, 2010, 07:12:43 PM
According to the same article above, the metrodome roof has collapsed 4 times thus far! :eek:
They have been "lobbying" for a new stadium in which to play for at least 10 years, but thus far the state legislature has been unable or unwilling to fund such a venture. (GREAT IMHO!)
The Vikings lease runs through 2011 at the metrodome, but already a couple of investment groups from Los Angeles are looking to lure the Vikings from Minnesota and bring football back to LA. (Note: A subtle use of the NFL's favorite tactic - scare thm into compliance). The state legislature, like most across the country, is hard pressed to validate spending upwards of 700 million dollars on a footbal stadium in the present economy.
My guess is that this may very well be the last season for the Vikings to play in Minnesota. When the strike happens next year, that will finish out their lease on the metrodome, and unless the good people of the state of Minnesota are willing to pay for 2/3 of the cost of building a new facility for them, they are LA bound. . .
I don't care what they do. But I don't want any taxpayer money used to pay for Multi-millioniare's stadiums to play their millionaire ball players. What a waste of taxpayer dollars.
Quote from: The Troll on December 12, 2010, 07:28:57 PM
I don't care what they do. But I don't want any taxpayer money used to pay for Multi-millioniare's stadiums to play their millionaire ball players. What a waste of taxpayer dollars.
I couldn't agree any stronger! :yes:
The sweet heart deal the Colts and Irsay got on the taxpayers backs to build the Luke is a prime example of that kind of bull crap! And every single city that has caved in to the NFL and the Team ownership now finds itself on the rocks financially. Even the CIB of Indianapolis is struggling to find a way to pay for the Luke, and its other venues like Conseco and Victory Field. . .
I love football as much as anyone, but I do not believe it is in any way fair to subsidize private enterprise, especially when that enterprise is within the entertainment genre, at the expense of the taxpayers! It is wrong, and it will be wrong forever. I said as much when the building of the Luke was first presented to the public, and I am still saying it.
The people of Cincinnati know exactly what I am talking about too, and several other cities across this nation. The NFL goes in there to impose its scare tactics upon the leadership groups at the request of the multimillionaire ownership, and they have been usually fairly successful in shaming the leadership into compliance, despite what the citizens say.
And as Indianapolis has seen here recently, the "tactic" is now beginning to spread to other professional sporting venues, with the Pacers negotiations seeing the use of the Colts deal as a comparison to their own deal with the city, and attempting to utilize it as a lever with which to "threaten" the city into compliance with their desires.
This is crap. If these owners so desperately need or want new stadiums in which to conduct their operations, then why aren't they trying to put together a private financing consortium that consists of some of their multi-million dollar players and private investors? If it is such a lucrative venture, why aren't these people jumping on board to do so? Because, as Indianapolis and other cities have seen it is NOT a lucrative venture and in fact one rift with risk and very marginal returns, minus a third party onto whom the bulk of the responsibility for the operation of the facilities can be piled upon. (Citizens). The ROI timeline on a new facility has to be ponderous, and in most cases a losing proposition. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
From my perspective, the thrill is gone surrounding professional sports. It's owners and practitioners are multimillionaires who refuse to pay to play.
I really burns my butt to have to pay 1% on any meal I buy out at Noblesville, Hamilton County to pay for the Colts. :wall:
Quote from: The Troll on December 13, 2010, 08:13:32 AM
I really burns my butt to have to pay 1% on any meal I buy out at Noblesville, Hamilton County to pay for the Colts. :wall:
then don't buy a meal at Noblesville, hamiltong county..........pretty simple, really.
Quote from: Palehorse on December 12, 2010, 07:55:41 PM
From my perspective, the thrill is gone surrounding professional sports. It's owners and practitioners are multimillionaires who refuse to pay to play.
This part I agree with 100%.....
What kind of bull crap officiating is this going on in the Colts game??? :mad:
3rd down play for Jax and the officials throw a flag and decide no foul. The play was completed and resulted in a no gain, and instead of being 4th and 4, the officials say "down goes over"?????!!!!!! What the hell is that????
As result they get 5 downs and are now knocking at the door for a score!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Quote from: Palehorse on December 19, 2010, 01:36:21 PM
What kind of bull crap officiating is this going on in the Colts game??? :mad:
3rd down play for Jax and the officials throw a flag and decide no foul. The play was completed and resulted in a no gain, and instead of being 4th and 4, the officials say "down goes over"?????!!!!!! What the hell is that????
As result they get 5 downs and are now knocking at the door for a score!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
THEN there's the kick off return that clearly looked as if he was signaling a fair catch, the Colts let up, and he ran it back for a TD. . . That was bull#%&*!!!
Now Austin Collie (17) with 2 TD catches and 8 receptions in the first half, gets whacked hard and is again hurt!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
:yeah: Colts win, one down and two to go. :pink: :pink: :pink: :colts:
Next game, my wife and I are going to our neighbor's to watch. They are devout Raiders fans. Should be fun! :biggrin:
If the Colts are going to take their division it is going to require an astounding effort by their rookie receiver corp. As we saw yesterday, having an available array of seasoned receivers makes the difference in the offense and their ability to put up points. Now with Collie out this aspect of their game takes another hit.
Austin Collie needs to seriously reconsider his chosen career path, in my opinion. Yes, the hits he has taken were horrendous, but at the same time, most of them are within the norm for any NFL player. As he seems to have a very pronounced weakness to concussion type injury, this represents a very stark and serious danger to his personal safety and quality of life; and Austin has to accept the fact that playing this game will eventually kill him unless he steps away from playing it.
The Colts offense relies heavily upon the timing routes, and for this to be effective the receivers have to know the routes and understand the timing to the point that it becomes "automatic". Clearly this is not the case with their backups and it is the main driver behind the losses this team has experienced this season. If the Colts truly desire to win their division this season then the backup receivers need to vastly improve their understanding of the timing routes and in short order.
That is a very tall order for any team, and although these backup players may indeed show promise toward becoming an integral part of the Colts system in the future, it is going to take far more than a week to get them there. A week they do not have. Unless one or two of them steps up to the plate and somehow demonstrates a far above average ability to learn and execute, the Colts are not going to get there this season. . .
I couldn't agree more with every word you just said.... :yes:
Watched the game verses The Raiders today, with my neighbors who are left coast transplants and devout Raiders fans. . . At their house. . . :biggrin:
The Colts were lucky they won given the Raiders inability to capitalize on the two turnovers, as well as their inability to get into the end zone. . .
I think the Titans are the fly int he ointment for their season this year. . . And even if they do win their division I predict a 1 and out in the playoffs. . .
Singletary - TOAST. . . (Wonder where he will end up?)
It looks like Jim Harbaugh may be the replacement in SF.
Favre gets fined 50K over the text-gate issue. . .
Colts offensive line is leaking like a sieve!!!
Looks like the Colts will be playing the Jets next week. . . one and out is my prediction!
PH, I disagree. I think I like the Colts situation much better this way. The have scrapped and clawed their way most of this season. I think the defense is playing very solid, and the offense is getting better, and this fighting attitude is something they have not had to do in past seasons. I don't think they will win the AFC Championship because of the Patriots, but then again, I think anything is possible during post season.
GO COLTS...AND I am pumped up for my Bears too.
I didn't see anything today that would instill confidence in their beating the Jets. In fact, it just bolsters my opinion that the Colts will end up getting spanked by the Jets.
They barely beat the next to worst team in their division today, and they were damned lucky that the Titans fumbled the ball back to them in the waining minutes of the 4th quarter, AFTER the Colts (Rhodes) fumbled to them within field goal range!
85 dropped more passes than he caught again today, and had he caught them the end result may have been more convincing. But he didn't. . . and it wasn't. The Colts offensive line could not keep the Titans out of the backfield, and Manning was under intense pressure every single play of the game.
The Jets on the other hand, are far more of a threat on offense and defense, than the Titans are. Which means that there will be even more penetration into the Colts backfield against the Jets.
One and out. . . watch. . .
Saints vs Seahawks is the early game Saturday. . . Anyone doubt the Saints will be eating Seahawk for dinner Saturday? :rolleyes:
Former Colts quarterback Jim Harbaugh's next stop is San Francisco.
The Stanford head coach will turn pro again and join the 49ers, the AP, NFL.com and ESPN reported. The 49ers scheduled a news conference for today at 6:30 p.m. ET.
Quote from: Palehorse on January 07, 2011, 08:26:05 PM
Former Colts quarterback Jim Harbaugh's next stop is San Francisco.
The Stanford head coach will turn pro again and join the 49ers, the AP, NFL.com and ESPN reported. The 49ers scheduled a news conference for today at 6:30 p.m. ET.
So, the real key to Harbaugh's future success with the 9 ers, is going to be the QB position I am thinking. Yeah, they need some good offense and defense coordinators, but in my honest opinion they'll need the QB first. I was thinking that Luck would follow Harbaugh. but since he has declared he will stay at Stanford for his senior year, I expect that the 9'ers will get someone to get them through the next 2-3 seasons, and in the meantime do their best to obtain a draft pick high enough in next years draft to snag Luck. But the question is who will that be??
McNabb comes to mind. After his dismal season with the Skins, and the team telling him he can stay as a backup, I believe that where ever McNabb ends up he's going to be on fire next year. He has something to prove now and he will do so next year. He'd also make a good mentor for Luck once they draft him next year.
The Eagles are more than likely going to try to keep Vick, but the 49ers would be wise to give him due consideration. Vick's star is on the rise, as are his skills. He is mobile and a QB that makes things happen, and he has a LOT to prove to the fans and the NFL; all huge motivators to do well. The Eagles are only going to give him another 1 year contract, and the 49ers could easily lure him to the west coast with a multi-year deal.
Vick would provide leadership, and with Luck as his understudy the 49ers would place themselves in the catbirds seat surrounding longevity and future success in the QB position. Just as they are securing the same in the head coaching position with the hiring of Harbaugh. Yes, Vick is a gamble but he is proving in each and every game that he is a viable risk worth gambling upon.
The 49ers could turn themselves around and transform from a used to be, bunch of also played twits, to a force to be reckoned with within the span of a season or two. But first they have to make the right choices in order to do so.
Oh my! Brandon Stokely just caught a touchdown pass for Seattle, and the Hawks lead at the half (1:15 from it) 24 - 17. . . :spooked:
Rot Roh - Drew Brees throws a 40 yard pass out of the gate and takes the Saints down to the Hawks 40 yard line! :spooked:
58 seconds to the half!
Wouldn't ya think NBC could find an announcer who didn't have slipping false teeth and can pronounce an "s" without the shower?
Quote from: followsthewolf on January 08, 2011, 06:14:48 PM
Wouldn't ya think NBC could find an announcer who didn't have slipping false teeth and can pronounce an "s" without the shower?
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One would think they'd at least provide some super polygrip!
Holy Moly! The Seahags beat the Saints! :spooked: :spooked: :spooked: :spooked:
Here we go - - - will it be the feet or a feat? :icon_twisted:
3 and out by the Colts, and the resulting punt draws focus upon the feet of Holmes? Coincidence or foreshadowing? :icon_twisted:
One more of those on the big screen at the Luke and I'm betting Ryan has to run to the locker room! :biggrin:
2:57 left in the 4th and the Jets up by 1 point. 4th down and one of the Colts runs into the kicker. 1st down Jets!
Buh Bye Colts. . . Like I said. . .
Quote from: Palehorse on January 02, 2011, 07:51:14 PM
I didn't see anything today that would instill confidence in their beating the Jets. In fact, it just bolsters my opinion that the Colts will end up getting spanked by the Jets.
They barely beat the next to worst team in their division today, and they were damned lucky that the Titans fumbled the ball back to them in the waining minutes of the 4th quarter, AFTER the Colts (Rhodes) fumbled to them within field goal range!
85 dropped more passes than he caught again today, and had he caught them the end result may have been more convincing. But he didn't. . . and it wasn't. The Colts offensive line could not keep the Titans out of the backfield, and Manning was under intense pressure every single play of the game.
The Jets on the other hand, are far more of a threat on offense and defense, than the Titans are. Which means that there will be even more penetration into the Colts backfield against the Jets.
One and out. . . watch. . .
And the Pack punks the Eagles in their own house. . .
(I hear rumblings that the Eagles will indeed hang the franchise tag on Vick)
The Ravens Scalped the Chiefs . . .
Quote from: Palehorse on January 08, 2011, 10:45:19 PM
2:57 left in the 4th and the Jets up by 1 point. 4th down and one of the Colts runs into the kicker. 1st down Jets!
Buh Bye Colts. . . Like I said. . .
like I said, it would be another scrap and claw game.....the jets got lucky and the Colts made a few key mistakes or it very could have been different results. I give Rex Ryan a big salute, I think he did a great job of preparing his team for this game and he made some great calls.
Ravens end the first half with 21 unanswered points, leading 21 - 7 over Pittsburg. . . But they start the second half with a fumble and Pittsburg made them pay. . . It is now 21 - 14 Ravens, but the momentum seems to have swung at this point!
Ravens imploded - 1st and goal for Pittsburg at the ravens 5 yard line. 2 minutes left and they are tied at 24 all. . .
Buh bye Ravens. . .
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WHICH ONE IS THE CLONE?
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Looks like the Bears are going ot be eating seahawk for dinner this evening. . . 21 - 0 Bears at the half.
Cutler seems to be "on" this game and has hit a number of long passes for big yardage, while the Seahawks seem to be hard pressed to put together an effective strategy on defense or offense!
We'll see what the second half brings. . .
Patriots go home! Patriots go Home! PATRIOTS GO HOME! PATRIOTS GO HOME!
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Quote from: Palehorse on January 16, 2011, 08:20:23 PM
Patriots go home! Patriots go Home! PATRIOTS GO HOME! PATRIOTS GO HOME!
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LOVE THIS!
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LOVE THIS!
I know a whole LOT of people who love that! :biggrin:
The bears have come out flat and the pack is handing them their lunch. 14 zip at the half and now to open the 3rd quarter the bears go three and out for the third time in the game.
Cutler is choking, having under thrown or over thrown the majority of the passes he has thrown. He has a few good passes but not nearly enough to make any kind of difference. . . Looks like the pack is going to the bowl!
Now Cutler is out due to injury and Collins just threw a pick! :rolleyes: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Packers are in, and if the Jets beat the Squealers the super bowl will be :
THE FOOT CHEESE BOWL
Looks like the Jets are toast as well. . . 1st and goal on the 3 yard line and they get denied 4 times and turn the ball over on downs. . . :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Steelers vs the Packers = Game over. . . Steelers win. . . :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:
Titans fire Jeff Fisher, although they termed it "parting ways".
Manning named most "powerful" athlete in sports - saying his drawing power (ads) is greater than any other athlete.
Manning also is rumored to be obtaining a new contract with the Colts that will make him the highest paid player in the NFL - ever.
I am SOOOOOOOOOOO happy to see the Jone's superbowl get covered in snowman poop! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Safe Auto gets my vote for best commercial during the first half! Thos ekicks to the seeds had me rolling! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Quote from: Palehorse on February 04, 2011, 06:12:17 PM
I am SOOOOOOOOOOO happy to see the Jone's superbowl get covered in snowman poop! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
that WAS rather amusing!!!.. :razz: :yes: :biggrin:
How nice! Christina Aguilera pooched the national anthem in front of millions world wide!
She should have focused on the words instead of jazzing it up!
Bwah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! :biggrin:
I think it shoud be in our Constitution, that our National Anthem MUST be sung to a certain key, as written, and with a time limit.
IF, one sings it and fails to sing it correctly....it will carry out the maxium penalty...................................
DEATH!!! >:(
just kiddin....... :redface: :razz:
It just kills me when singers blow the words to the national anthem. It would be a far better practice to just let an orchestra play the music! :yes:
Colts released Bob Sanders today! :spooked:
Loved him when he played for Iowa and was a great player his 1st 2 years in the league but man is this guy injury prone.
WASHINGTON -- Lawmakers from Indiana, home of next season's Super Bowl, are urging the NFL and players union to avoid a work stoppage that would have a "devastating impact" on the state's economy.
"We are especially troubled that a failure to complete a new agreement could lead to a work stoppage affecting the upcoming 2011 NFL season and Super Bowl XLVI in Indianapolis," wrote Indiana GOP Sens. Dan Coats and Richard Lugar, along with all nine House members from the state, in a letter Thursday to NFL commissioner Roger Goodell and union head DeMaurice Smith.. . .
http://www.indystar.com/article/20110224/NEWS05/102240464/Save-Indy-s-Super-Bowl-lawmakers-urge-NFL-union?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|IndyStar.com (http://www.indystar.com/article/20110224/NEWS05/102240464/Save-Indy-s-Super-Bowl-lawmakers-urge-NFL-union?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Ctext%7CIndyStar.com)
The NFL is going to laugh all the way to the bank. While they fight over the division of 9 BILLION in annual licensing revenues, the suckers, aka the citizens of Indianapolis and its nine collar counties, are quickly starting to realize they have been taken for a HUGE ride! (BIG surprise eh? :rolleyes: )
The NFL knew this was a possibility back when they first strong armed the state of Indiana and the citizens of Indianapolis into footing the bill for the Luke, and no one can tell me anything different.
Think they'll give 365 million dollars to the citizens of Indy to compensate them for the non event called the super bowl that is supposed to be played here? :food24: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
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Chicago will get a super bowl before Indy ever does! Lockout starts tomorrow folks! Wonder what the CIB is going to do now??? :biggrin:
I found this clip from the late great Walter Payton doing an old Beatles tune.....pretty cool... 8)
http://www.youtube.com/v/Nraq_lJ9RgE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nraq_lJ9RgE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nraq_lJ9RgE)
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/michael_mccann/03/11/whatnext/index.html?hpt=T2 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/michael_mccann/03/11/whatnext/index.html?hpt=T2)
Meanwhile. . . back on the ranch. . .
Players Union has moved to decertify, increasing the likelihood of the demise of the 2011 season, and Indy's Superbowl prospects. . . (Possible scenarios in the attached link). . .
Payton Manning and his wife are now parents to their first child......film at 11.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 08, 2011, 04:04:30 PM
Payton Manning and his wife are now parents to their first child......film at 11.
Make that two. . . they had twins; one of each! :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
And brother Eli and his wife ha their first about 10 days before! :biggrin:
Well, a federal judge sided with the NFLPA and issued an order to end the lockout by the owners today. . . SHORT lived no doubt. . .
http://www.cnn.com/2011/SPORT/football/04/25/nfl.lockout/index.html?hpt=T1 (http://www.cnn.com/2011/SPORT/football/04/25/nfl.lockout/index.html?hpt=T1)
In reading the linked article, I did find reason to question the sanity of the presiding judge. . . I quote the passage below. See if you can spot my reason for concern. . .
". . .In her ruling Monday, U.S. District Judge Susan Richard Nelson said the decision by the players to disband their union meant the case no longer came under federal labor law that prohibits injunctions, as claimed by the owners. . .
. . . ."Her"? Or is it "His"? Does "it" even know itself? :spooked:
. . . And then there is this little gem:
. . ."The owners say that the current labor deal doesn't take into account the rising costs related to building stadiums and promoting the game. The players argue that the league has not sufficiently opened up its books to prove this. . ."
Awww come on! Seriously?
Let's see. . . the NFL and its various franchises tour the country holding up the citizens of its team cities by threatening to move unless the citizens foot the bill for a brand spanking new, state of the art, stadium; then force those same citizens to cough up even more cash because the teams cannot "afford" the upkeep for these buildings? And now they want the players to submit to concessions in salary and compensation (implied) in order to pay for the upkeep??? "Where's the beef?"
A 9 BILLION dollar industry, that takes a cool billion right off the top, and then takes 40% of the remaining 8 billion, and they can't afford the upkeep for their palatial facilities which they DO NOT even pay to have constructed? (This is the nice area, but let me assure you I am NOT thinking very nice words for this diversion play!) :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
And what's that you say? You won't open the books? (Wonder why???? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: )
I'll say this much though; they mess around and lock the players out, ending the 2011 season, and in this individual's opinion they are destined for failure and HUGE fan base losses, from which many of these franchises may NEVER recover. . .
I say the taxpayers of the NFL cities around this country are owed a HUGE debt for funding the construction of these blasted stadiums, and it is high time we begin meeting these threats of moving with an offer to pay for the damned trucks to get them out of town! It'd be cheaper! :mad: :mad: :mad:
Tonight on MSNBC there was fellow football fan who want the football teams NFL owned by the cities and fans they are in.
I didn't know it but he said that the Green Bay Packers are owned by the fans. He also said that 80% of the concessions went to charity in Green Bay.
Can you imagine Jim Irsay giving any money to the 5 counties that pay taxes to the Colts and the Million dollar players. They only take, not give.
The only one that I know that gives is Payton Manning, he give a lot of money and time to sick children and many other charities. :smile:
Quote from: The Troll on April 25, 2011, 10:39:49 PM
Tonight on MSNBC there was fellow football fan who want the football teams NFL owned by the cities and fans they are in.
I didn't know it but he said that the Green Bay Packers are owned by the fans. He also said that 80% of the concessions went to charity in Green Bay.
Can you imagine Jim Irsay giving any money to the 5 counties that pay taxes to the Colts and the Million dollar players. They only take, not give.
The only one that I know that gives is Payton Manning, he give a lot of money and time to sick children and many other charities. :smile:
Irsay gives around $2 Million every year to local charities......throw that in along with Mannings contributions and the other Colt players who give their time and money....you would be surprised at how much we would NOT have if it were NOT for the Colts existence in Indianapolis.....How much money would leave this area if we would lose them. I think the City made some bad moves in the negotioations in building the stadium, but we need better leadership involved at that level.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 26, 2011, 08:37:34 AM
Irsay gives around $2 Million every year to local charities......throw that in along with Mannings contributions and the other Colt players who give their time and money....you would be surprised at how much we would NOT have if it were NOT for the Colts existence in Indianapolis.....How much money would leave this area if we would lose them. I think the City made some bad moves in the negotioations in building the stadium, but we need better leadership involved at that level.
Yep, that is what you always say, "All we need is leadership.: :blah: :blah: When it come to big money for big moneyed people nothing happens. The taxpayer get in the rear every time. Leadership, :azz:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 26, 2011, 08:37:34 AM
Irsay gives around $2 Million every year to local charities......throw that in along with Mannings contributions and the other Colt players who give their time and money....you would be surprised at how much we would NOT have if it were NOT for the Colts existence in Indianapolis.....How much money would leave this area if we would lose them. I think the City made some bad moves in the negotioations in building the stadium, but we need better leadership involved at that level.
Irsay. . . At that rate it'll take him 100 years to make up what his teams palatial digs cost the taxpayers of Marion and the collar counties; and that's not counting any interest! 2 mill is pocket change to that guy. . . And there is NO classifying what the team members contribute along with his contributions. The motivations are entirely different in each case. . . and in some cases are mandated by the NFL. . .
If you ask me, Indianapolis and Indiana would be far better off without the anvil (Colts) around their neck!
Well, like I said: "Short lived no doubt". . . :rolleyes:
"NFL lockout back on, as owners win ruling from appeals court"
http://www.cnn.com/2011/SPORT/football/04/29/nfl.lockout/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1 (http://www.cnn.com/2011/SPORT/football/04/29/nfl.lockout/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1)
Sure sounds like a good start for Indianapolis to host the Super Bowl. :smile:
Quote from: The Troll on April 30, 2011, 09:00:22 AM
Sure sounds like a good start for Indianapolis to host the Super Bowl. :smile:
Yeah. . . another component of the bill of goods force fed the citizens of Marion county and the collar counties, in order to fund Irsay Palace on their backs. . . :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Quote from: Palehorse on April 30, 2011, 09:04:39 AM
Yeah. . . another component of the bill of goods force fed the citizens of Marion county and the collar counties, in order to fund Irsay Palace on their backs. . . :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
When you come to think about it. Just look at the map and see how close we came to being in this ripoff. :smile:
Quote from: The Troll on April 30, 2011, 09:42:44 AM
When you come to think about it. Just look at the map and see how close we came to being in this ripoff. :smile:
No kidding! :yes:
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ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL!!!
It looks like a deal is near and another season will soon be on its way.... :yes:
Indeed!
Can't say I'm as optimistic about the situation in the NBA though.
Quote from: Locutus on July 26, 2011, 04:06:47 PM
Indeed!
Can't say I'm as optimistic about the situation in the NBA though.
ah, that's okay with me....I'm ready for some FOOTBALLLLL!!!!
This is going to be a NFL first when Peyton Manning and company win a SB in front of the home crowd.... :yes:
As far as the "Dolts" go, my money is on Manning going down within the first 4 games with a "neck injury". Most likely in the game against the Steelers.
Once that happens, stick a fork in em!
Quote from: Palehorse on July 26, 2011, 11:58:55 PM
As far as the "Dolts" go, my money is on Manning going down within the first 4 games with a "neck injury". Most likely in the game against the Steelers.
Once that happens, stick a fork in em!
Gee, man that's cold. Where is the Colts spirt. :colts: You tired of paying tax to the Colts every time you eat out in Indianapolis. :colts:
If the reports in the IndyStar are to be believed, (and they quote Peyton Manning directly), then I have no choice but to respect him as the epitome of the team player.
Irsay has pledged very publicly to "make him the highest paid player in the NFL" in his new contract which is being negotiated.
Manning has publicly stated within the media, as well as within personal conversations with the Colts owner, that he doesn't want to be or care about being the highest paid player. He stated that he would rather they use that money to keep key players and sign new ones! He just wants his contract done today, tomorrow, or by Sunday, so he can get to work, and for the money to be used to field a competitive team.
I know, the guy is already a millionaire, but it is nice to see someone who puts the team first, and greed out onto the curb.
I hope he has their attention and that they put together a team that tears up the league this year.
I totally respect him for his choices and willingness to make his career a team oriented one; instead of the almighty dollar!
Manning's "availability" for the season opener is in doubt. Looks like the qb is not healing as expected. . .
Quote from: Palehorse on August 20, 2011, 10:03:57 PM
Manning's "availability" for the season opener is in doubt. Looks like the qb is not healing as expected. . .
My question, what happens if Manning can't play anymore? Does he get to keep all of the money he bargain for in his new contract. :biggrin:
:colts: :rotfl: :rotfl:
I had to quit football. injuries....
Colts looked like trash with Collins at the helm. Although, with most of the offensive line being rookies he sure didn't have any time to do much!
NIGGA UNDERSTANDS THE OFFENSES PROBLEMS!
BUT THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THE DEFENSE AND THEIR PERFORMANCE!
THEY ARE USED TO GAMES LIKE THAT!
THEY WERE JUST PLYING WITH THEIR HEADS UP THEIR ASSES AND NOT ON THE FIELD OR IN THE GAME!
NO EXCUSE FOR THE WAY THE DEFENSE PLAYED IN THE FIRST HALF!
IT'S LIKE THEY READ TO MANY NEWSPAPERS AND WATCHED TOO MUCH NEWS!
AND JUST REFUSED TO SHOW UP!
CAN'T PUT THE DEFENSIVE PLAY ON THE BACK OF THE OFFENSE OR NEW QUARTERBACK!
THEY JUST PUNKED OUT!
Yeah Don, they were believing their own press, that's for sure. They had better put their big boy pants back on. I am already seeing season ticket holders seats on the market for sale. I think the "Luke" may be a ghost town this season. . . :yes:
Especially if they play at home the way they played yesterday.
I watched some World Cup Rugby from New Zealand. The U.S. vs. Ireland. Organized mayhem. :biggrin:
The only thing crazier is either Australian Rules Football or Lacrosse. :biggrin:
What, no comments on the game?
Go Browns!!!!!!! :smitten: :yes: :party: :beer:
Quote from: followsthewolf on September 18, 2011, 05:30:49 PM
What, no comments on the game?
Go Browns!!!!!!! :smitten: :yes: :party: :beer:
I watched the game and I think a good college team could beat them. What happened to the receivers. I didn't see them in action. :( :yes:
I had the opportunity to go to the game and take my 11-year old son, who is a miniture NFL expert/analysis. This was his first time ever to go to a game and he was THRILLED, despite the horrible performance by the Colts. We sat on the forth row up in the endzone. You can hear the players talking to one another.
It is amazing how this team can be so revolved around one player (Manning) that they can go from a SB Contender to being lucky to win ONE game, just because of his absence.
The place was packed until 10 minutes left in the forth quarter....then the folks began to head for the doors.....it was about half full when the game was over, and MOST of those were Browns fans.
Troll, that is a good question...what happened to those receivers, because there was some easy to catch passes that were dropped.
The Colts were built by the owner around a franchise player. Not a quality QB backup in sight for years. They were incredibly lucky that he played so many games without an injury. Now they have to live with Kerry Collins, and the rest of the team is going through the motions because they are whipped before they get out of the gate. Receivers are dropping balls they should catch. Without a quality QB backup, the Colts are playing like just about every other team in the NFL that has lost its #1 QB.
Welcome to the real world.
Oh, and blame your owner for not drafting a quality backup and getting him ready to step in if it became necessary.
Quote from: followsthewolf on September 19, 2011, 02:25:31 PM
The Colts were built by the owner around a franchise player. Not a quality QB backup in sight for years. They were incredibly lucky that he played so many games without an injury. Now they have to live with Kerry Collins, and the rest of the team is going through the motions because they are whipped before they get out of the gate. Receivers are dropping balls they should catch. Without a quality QB backup, the Colts are playing like just about every other team in the NFL that has lost its #1 QB.
Welcome to the real world.
Oh, and blame your owner for not drafting a quality backup and getting him ready to step in if it became necessary.
I agree, we should have at the least, a QB that understands the offense, with a "decent" arm....too many eggs put into one basket.
Collins has never played under this system at all.
Yup. To be fair about things, the Colts are a "timing route" team, and when a key component to the timing is removed (manning) the timing goes down. Same held true when Manning was in, but his key receivers were out and replaced by backups. (IE No time together in practice means disconnects and blown timing).
Collins would not have been my personal choice, but it was the choice of those in control of the team. To be fair, the man has not worked with this team, or system, before; but he spent plenty of time on the other side of it and thus should know how effective it is when the timing is achieved.
To that end, a large percentage of the offensive line are newbies themselves, and although I did NOT watch this past Sunday's games, (nor highlights), I expect the result was virtually the same as game one; Collins was under siege and barely had time to get a decent throw in. Although, I suspect he must have had some opportunities due to the dropped ball comments.
Might as well face it, the team is toast right now, and if they couldn't beat Cleveland the odds are they will not beat anybody in the next 6-8 weeks at a minimum. (If at all).
Even if Manning almighty returns, (which I HIGHLY doubt), the timing aspect of the game is toast.
I absolutely agree that the team SHOULD have been a lot more proactive in grooming a backup to help remediate the inevitable Manning injury. But the best we can do now is hope that they have learned the fallacy in their worship of an individual player instead of a team. (I won't hold my breath on that one).
And for the record, I am not at all optimistic surrounding the return of Manning to take another snap. . . ever. His injury is a VERY serious one, and the odds are against him. Given his record, I believe it is a safe assumption to state that he is a smart man, and when he sees the odds of his incurring a more serious condition should he ever take another snap, I have to believe he'll look to fill a coaching role with this team and another, as opposed to risking paralysis or worse.
There's a LOT to be gained with him stepping into a coaching role, for any team and for the league itself. He may not take another snap, but the possibilities surrounding him sharing his knowledge of the game, position, and strategy, represent a huge opportunity to take the game itself to a higher level. And that will at the end of the day, become the achievement in his lifetime that will outshine his performance on the field itself.
I may be wrong, but that is the way I see it. And if it comes to pass that Manning is indeed finished playing, lets just hope the Colts organization isn't too blind to see things the same way! If they are, I predict the citizens of this State will regret the day they backed any effort to prevent those Mayflower trucks from returning to Indianapolis a few short years ago. . . :yes:
I agree with you on Peyton Manning, he shouldn't play. One good hit and he could become a paraplegic. :(
How can the Colts over come this. It sure seems dark for the team. :( :colts:
Quote from: The Troll on September 20, 2011, 04:39:36 PM
I agree with you on Peyton Manning, he shouldn't play. One good hit and he could become a paraplegic. :(
How can the Colts over come this. It sure seems dark for the team. :( :colts:
They need a new QB, and the likelihood of them finding another college prospect on par with the Manning brothers is very slim indeed. And I don't see them going very far with a reactivated retiree, current or other. (Brett).
Combine that with the rookie laden offensive line with the effectiveness of swiss cheese, and we've got the makings of a decades long drought surrounding a winning season; but they sure have a mighty fine palace within which to suck! (And it isn't costing them a dime either). :mad:
I LMAO at all of the season tickets being offered up for sale each week by holders that work where I do. I could have bought some sweet seats at 50% of face value for the Cleveland game last week, and additional tix are on the boards this week! :biggrin:
I might break down and go to see them get beat up one of these weekends. . . just for giggles! :biggrin:
Indy fans are the most fickle than any other city in the NFL. They LOVE those Colts when they are winning, but da hell with them when things get tough.....Da Bears have some REAL fans.....they LOVE their BEARS! Rain, snow or sucky teams...they STILL sell them tickets and fill the seats.
I think it would behove the colts to either utilize Curtis Painter or another young QB, let them get their licks in and learn....ending up with the worst record may not be such a bad thing for the next draft, with the likes of Standford QB Andrew Luck.
I was all ready to yell go Colts this year. Now what do I do? I know! I will have a cookie!! I like cookies. :biggrin:
Quote from: damfast on September 22, 2011, 12:56:20 PM
I was all ready to yell go Colts this year. Now what do I do? I know! I will have a cookie!! I like cookies. :biggrin:
;D
Go Eagles!
I hope Vick and company take it all this year.
And now that the retiree Collins is also hurt, its up to Painter; and the Steelers are comin! :biggrin:
:fortune:
I see Mcafee taking snaps in the near future! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
A running back on the New England Patriots has been ordered to do his patriotic duty - and report immediately aboard a Navy ship.
Eric Kettani, who became a feel-good story after making the team's practice squad, and who is an alum of the U.S. Naval Academy, was ordered to return to his Navy ship in Jacksonville, the Boston Herald reported. He said he hopes to get back to his career in the NFL, but knows he must follow orders.
"I love my country and I'm happy to serve it, but I'm also happy to be a New England Patriot," Kettani told Mike Reiss of ESPN.com.
The Chiefs are making Painter look like Manning so far! :biggrin:
And now the Colts are blowing it!
Quote from: Palehorse on October 09, 2011, 03:48:46 PM
And now the Colts are blowing it!
Yep. . . they blew it!
They can't even beat the Chiefs! They won't beat anybody!
Go Pack Go!!
Getting ready to watch the Pack/Atlanta game!
Quote from: Locutus on October 09, 2011, 07:48:51 PM
Go Pack Go!!
Getting ready to watch the Pack/Atlanta game!
I'll watch the first quarter, and maybe to the half, but that's it. Early start to the week tomorrow.
The Pack is kicking butt and taking names thus far. They may have more than a good shot at getting back to the big show this year!
Quote from: Palehorse on October 09, 2011, 07:50:41 PM
I'll watch the first quarter, and maybe to the half, but that's it. Early start to the week tomorrow.
The Pack is kicking butt and taking names thus far. They may have more than a good shot at getting back to the big show this year!
The way I see it, the Colts won't be in the Super Bowl in Indianapolis. :yes:
The colts can too be in the superbowl!! cheering on the patriots....like all the other winners.
Quote from: The Troll on October 10, 2011, 01:43:26 PM
The way I see it, the Colts won't be in the Super Bowl in Indianapolis. :yes:
They don't have to be in the super bowl. They'll reap every red cent of profit out of the event thanks to the sweetheart deal they got along with getting the taxpayers to foot the bill for their stadium!
"Winning". . . :mad:
Quote from: Palehorse on October 11, 2011, 08:32:45 PM
They don't have to be in the super bowl. They'll reap every red cent of profit out of the event thanks to the sweetheart deal they got along with getting the taxpayers to foot the bill for their stadium!
"Winning". . . :mad:
:yes: :yes: :yes: It's a damn shame that multi-millionaires owners and million dollar players get to have the taxpayers to pay for their stadium. Plus get all of the money from the things they sell there. :mask: :007:
Quote from: The Troll on October 11, 2011, 11:40:38 PM
:yes: :yes: :yes: It's a damn shame that multi-millionaires owners and million dollar players get to have the taxpayers to pay for their stadium. Plus get all of the money from the things they sell there. :mask: :007:
Not only that, but they get all revenues generated by parking, vendor fees, and concessions, including NFL fees paid for the facility use!
The Dolts, 0-6 after getting slapped by the Bengals today! :biggrin:
Suck for Luck question for the group:
Hypothetically speaking, let's say the Colts, the Dolphins, and the Rams continue their "suck for Luck" 2011 campaigns and all 3 end up 0-16 at the end of the year. I know that's probably not likely, but it could happen.
If it does, what criteria come into play in determining the order in which those three teams would pick in the 2012 draft?
Quote from: Locutus on October 17, 2011, 03:02:26 PM
Suck for Luck question for the group:
Hypothetically speaking, let's say the Colts, the Dolphins, and the Rams continue their "suck for Luck" 2011 campaigns and all 3 end up 0-16 at the end of the year. I know that's probably not likely, but it could happen.
If it does, what criteria come into play in determining the order in which those three teams would pick in the 2012 draft?
good question and I don't have a clue...but I wonder what the odds are that three teams would actually end up 0-16?...I'm thinking my Colts have a great chance...they blew there opportunities already as their schedule only gets tougher.
Quote from: Locutus on October 17, 2011, 03:02:26 PM
Suck for Luck question for the group:
Hypothetically speaking, let's say the Colts, the Dolphins, and the Rams continue their "suck for Luck" 2011 campaigns and all 3 end up 0-16 at the end of the year. I know that's probably not likely, but it could happen.
If it does, what criteria come into play in determining the order in which those three teams would pick in the 2012 draft?
What is the tie breaker(s)? That is an excellent question and one I don't have the slightest idea as to an answer to! Do they go to the stats like totals points, yards, etc? :confused:
My money is on the Dolts having the BEST chance at going 0 - 16. The fish and rams will probably win at least one!
Quote from: Palehorse on October 17, 2011, 09:19:47 PM
What is the tie breaker(s)? That is an excellent question and one I don't have the slightest idea as to an answer to! Do they go to the stats like totals points, yards, etc? :confused:
My money is on the Dolts having the BEST chance at going 0 - 16. The fish and rams will probably win at least one!
I agree, but after the way the fish played last night, I'm not to sure.
Yup, HH!! And Tim Tebow brings the Broncos to town this Sunday. That will be another one in the L column.
Quote from: Locutus on October 18, 2011, 12:31:44 PM
Yup, HH!! And Tim Tebow brings the Broncos to town this Sunday. That will be another one in the L column.
I like that Tebow guy!!...He is going to be fun to watch develop...
The fish may be 0-6, but the Dolts go 0-7 tonight when they face the Saints. (They couldn't beat them with Manning, and they certainly are not going to beat them without him!)
Rumor mill is saying the fish will fire their coach in favor of the guy I like to call the "spitter", Bill Cowher!
(http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2010/01/15/sports/photos_stories/cropped/086_bill_cowher--300x300.jpg)
Well that didn't take long. . . Colts give up the ball on an early snap fumble, resulting in a Saints TD!
Quote from: Palehorse on October 23, 2011, 07:52:43 PM
The fish may be 0-6, but the Dolts go 0-7 tonight when they face the Saints. (They couldn't beat them with Manning, and they certainly are not going to beat them without him!)
Rumor mill is saying the fish will fire their coach in favor of the guy I like to call the "spitter", Bill Cowher!
(http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2010/01/15/sports/photos_stories/cropped/086_bill_cowher--300x300.jpg)
I'd actually like to see that, but the ownership sucks here and the rest of the front office staff is even worse. Suck for Luck!!
Quote from: Palehorse on October 23, 2011, 08:40:18 PM
Well that didn't take long. . . Colts give up the ball on an early snap fumble, resulting in a Saints TD!
14-0 N'awlins!
Quote from: Locutus on October 23, 2011, 08:45:21 PM
I'd actually like to see that, but the ownership sucks here and the rest of the front office staff is even worse. Suck for Luck!!
The Colts will beat the fish in the suck for luck race!
Quote from: Palehorse on October 23, 2011, 09:06:58 PM
Soon to be 21-0 ! :biggrin:
Yup! 21-0 before the end of the 1st quarter. :rotfl:
28-0 N'awlins!
Quote from: Locutus on October 23, 2011, 09:21:44 PM
28-0 N'awlins!
1st half will be a shut out, and I predict the second half won't be much different!
So much for that. . . 1:56 to the half and the goose egg is broken! :biggrin:
This is getting really ugly.
55-7 N'awlins!
Holy cow!!! A pick 6!! :eek:
62-7 N'awlins!
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 17, 2011, 03:10:00 PM
good question and I don't have a clue...but I wonder what the odds are that three teams would actually end up 0-16?...I'm thinking my Colts have a great chance...they blew there opportunities already as their schedule only gets tougher.
Quote from: Palehorse on October 17, 2011, 09:19:47 PM
What is the tie breaker(s)? That is an excellent question and one I don't have the slightest idea as to an answer to! Do they go to the stats like totals points, yards, etc? :confused:
My money is on the Dolts having the BEST chance at going 0 - 16. The fish and rams will probably win at least one!
AH!!! Me has the answer after today's meltdown by the Dolphins.
Quote
1. If the season ended today, the Dolphins would have the No. 1 overall draft pick. And you know what that means. Of course, it doesn't end today and there are a million variables to play out. Indianapolis, St. Louis and the Dolphins are the three winless teams right now. The tie-breaker is based on strength of schedule. The team with the easier schedule gets the higher pick - the idea naturally being they must be a worse team than one with a tougher schedule. Indianapois' opponent records are 24-15. St. Louis' opponent records are 23-13. And the Dolphins? Their opponents are 22-16. So it's a slim lead and, with 10 weeks ago, anything can happen. But right now a fan base looking for some good news might as well embrace this much.
http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports/columnists/hyde/blog/2011/10/hyde5_five_thoughts_on_dolphin_4.html
Wow. . . so looks like the Dolts will have to suck for another 3 years before it actually pays off!
NO shamed the Dolts last night, and the look on Manning's face last night said it all; frustration, anger, disgust.
That had to be a living hell for him.
The Luke is going to be known as the palace of pain, and for the idiots who were railroaded into bankrolling its construction this is a nightmare come true!
Looks like you were right PH. The "spitter" has been contacted.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/15834419/dolphins-approach-cowher-concerning-potential-vacancy
(http://sports.cbsimg.net/u/photos/football/nfl/img15835635.jpg)
:confused: :confused: What are the scalping price for a local Colt's game??? :wink: :rolleyes: :colts: :rolleyes:
Quote from: The Troll on October 28, 2011, 01:07:23 PM
:confused: :confused: What are the scalping price for a local Colt's game??? :wink: :rolleyes: :colts: :rolleyes:
free
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 28, 2011, 01:26:08 PM
free
:rotfl: :biggrin: :biggrin:
We should put a Colts ticket alongside a Dolphins ticket on eBay and see which fetches a higher price. ;D
Heading to the Ale House shortly to catch the afternoon games, some food, and libations of course!
Quote from: Locutus on October 30, 2011, 12:21:25 PM
:rotfl: :biggrin: :biggrin:
We should put a Colts ticket alongside a Dolphins ticket on eBay and see which fetches a higher price. ;D
The only bidders would be those desperate for toilet paper! :biggrin:
The fish are at least making a game of it! The Dolts are getting hammered again, 20 - zip at the half!
Quote from: Locutus on October 25, 2011, 09:54:11 PM
Looks like you were right PH. The "spitter" has been contacted.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/15834419/dolphins-approach-cowher-concerning-potential-vacancy
(http://sports.cbsimg.net/u/photos/football/nfl/img15835635.jpg)
The Spitter is saying he will not coach next year and that he likes his job and co-workers. But if the Fish show him enough money, we all know where he'll be next year and it won't be the booth or studio! :biggrin:
The Fish and the Rams are both leading, and may be ending their winless seasons today; leaving the Dolts as the ONLY winless team in the NFL! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
0-8 Dolts!
At least the Rams took themselves out of the first pass at the "Suck for Luck!" campaign. They picked up a W today.
Quote from: Locutus on October 30, 2011, 07:22:29 PM
At least the Rams took themselves out of the first pass at the "Suck for Luck!" campaign. They picked up a W today.
Yeah, I thought the fish were gong to do the same for awhile there today!
Quote from: Palehorse on October 30, 2011, 07:27:38 PM
Yeah, I thought the fish were gong to do the same for awhile there today!
I have a friend who keeps telling me that I have to keep that faith that they'll always find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, thus keeping them in the "Suck for Luck!" race. :yes:
Quote from: Locutus on October 30, 2011, 07:30:30 PM
I have a friend who keeps telling me that I have to keep that faith that they'll always find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, thus keeping them in the "Suck for Luck!" race. :yes:
:biggrin:
I'm not so sure "Luck" will transfer to the NFL easily though. . . The odds are against it.
Quote from: Palehorse on October 30, 2011, 07:31:46 PM
:biggrin:
I'm not so sure "Luck" will transfer to the NFL easily though. . . The odds are against it.
Well since the Dolphins haven't just "sucked for Luck," but simply sucked for SO many years now, I'm willing to take a chance on it. :yes:
Quote from: Locutus on October 30, 2011, 07:37:57 PM
Well since the Dolphins haven't just "sucked for Luck," but simply sucked for SO many years now, I'm willing to take a chance on it. :yes:
Better to trust in "luck" than nothing at all! :biggrin:
The Eagles are taking it to the cowgirls! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Colts are 0 - 9 !
And the ONLY winless team in the NFL! :rolleyes:
The damn Dolphins won! :mad:
But my Packers are 8-0!
Go Green Bay!!
Quote from: Locutus on November 06, 2011, 08:21:05 PM
But my Packers are 8-0!
Go Green Bay!!
And in stark contrast to the Dolts, my money says that if the Pack has a chance to go 16 - 0, ALL their starters will be playing each and every game! :biggrin:
and then there are the girls from cincinnati. that new kid does okay, bui i was hoping for a tennessee win, they are such cute uniforms.....
C ount O n L osing This S unday!
Quote from: Palehorse on November 13, 2011, 11:49:04 AM
C ount O n L osing This S unday!
I hope they win one so the Dolphins can get back into the "Suck for Luck!" campaign. Although Luck didn't have much luck with the Ducks last night. :no:
Quote from: Locutus on November 13, 2011, 11:52:25 AM
I hope they win one so the Dolphins can get back into the "Suck for Luck!" campaign. Although Luck didn't have much luck with the Ducks last night. :no:
I got a feeling the fish will win another two or three before it is all said and done. The Dolts are ready for the glue factory!
I bet even if they win the suck for luck campaign, they pass on him. At best they'll draft him and trade him for another higher pick or two. . .
Bears are eating Lion for dinner! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Oh boy. . . First the Lions thrash Cutler by grabbing him by the helmet and ripping it off his head in the first half. Now, they did it to another Bear player, and it resulted in a hockey fight breaking out at a football game! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Both benches basically cleared and they were pounding on each other! :biggrin: :biggrin:
Smashmouth football! Knocking the snot out of each other!
ya gotta love that black and blue division!!!! and da bears! ;D :yes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 14, 2011, 08:48:21 AM
ya gotta love that black and blue division!!!! and da bears! ;D :yes:
What is worse than being a Colts fan? Owning 4 Colt season tickets. :colts:
The Pack Vs The Vikes. . . Should be a good game! Can the Pack survive another week? :biggrin:
how bout that new bengals qb and his passing pal? could be a good thing comin there....
The only good thing about working saturday and sunday is that I don't have to watch the Dolts get their butts kicked!
Quote from: Palehorse on November 19, 2011, 08:37:38 PM
The only good thing about working saturday and sunday is that I don't have to watch the Dolts get their butts kicked!
they will not lose this week anyway.............they have a bye week.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 19, 2011, 08:41:40 PM
they will not lose this week anyway.............they have a bye week.
Oh boy! :biggrin:
Quote from: Palehorse on November 19, 2011, 09:11:36 PM
Oh boy! :biggrin:
I think there may be a Doris Day movie on in its place!!! :spooked:
personally, I'm gonna nestle down and root for my BEARS! :yes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 19, 2011, 09:26:25 PM
I think there may be a Doris Day movie on in its place!!! :spooked:
personally, I'm gonna nestle down and root for my BEARS! :yes:
I'm working. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Palehorse on November 19, 2011, 09:39:54 PM
I'm working. :rolleyes:
hey, on a postivie note, you are banking more money to buy those grandkids some special Christmas toys, right? :yes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 19, 2011, 11:19:35 PM
hey, on a postivie note, you are banking more money to buy those grandkids some special Christmas toys, right? :yes:
Nope. I get the same pay if I put in 40 hours or 100.
Quote from: Palehorse on November 20, 2011, 10:18:40 AM
Nope. I get the same pay if I put in 40 hours or 100.
Oh boy, the old white shirt salary rip off. When are the salary people going to realize that they need a union.
I know some of the salary people who didn't want one. They know they can and will brown nose their way up and kiss ass the boss :kissit:
And the company and the people around him will suffer. :yes: :@#%&:
It is what it is. It still beats where I was this time last year!
Bears took it to the Chargers. . . only problem; Cutler broke the thumb on his throwing hand in the process!
And the Packers are 10-0! ;D
And the Dolts are still 0 - 10 ! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Quote from: Palehorse on November 21, 2011, 09:22:55 AM
And the Dolts are still 0 - 10 ! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
on a positive note, they did NOT get beat yesterday!!! :biggrin:
i still like the new kid on the bengals. i dont like them much, but he might be worth watchin.
Ndamukong Suh is a punk!
What he said.
http://www.youtube.com/v/n3CG9OVO1ng
Quote from: Locutus on November 24, 2011, 05:10:42 PM
Ndamukong Suh is a punk!
No doubt about that. And how he could scream at the coach that his disqualification was "BS" afterwards just confirms it.
How his stomping of that player could be interpreted as anything other than totally unacceptable to anyone is beyond me! :mad:
They need to hand his ass a multiple game suspension and quit slapping him on the wrist with fines that are nothing more than a pittance for someone like him. And his sponsors (including Chrysler and Omaha Steaks) need to drop that thug too. :yes:
Quote from: Locutus on November 25, 2011, 11:29:19 AM
They need to hand his ass a multiple game suspension and quit slapping him on the wrist with fines that are nothing more than a pittance for someone like him. And his sponsors (including Chrysler and Omaha Steaks) need to drop that thug too. :yes:
Agreed. Not doing so will only assure that the NFL turns into a haven for thugs like the NBA has turned into!
Quote from: Locutus on November 25, 2011, 11:29:19 AM
They need to hand his ass a multiple game suspension and quit slapping him on the wrist with fines that are nothing more than a pittance for someone like him. And his sponsors (including Chrysler and Omaha Steaks) need to drop that thug too. :yes:
I agree too, the lions are making it difficult to root for them....I WAS at first kind of happy to see them start off 5 and 0....but after some of the cheap shots and the Lions coach whinning about Harbaughs handshake......screw em.
I heard the commentators in this 49-24 clubbing that the Saints are laying on the Giants say that, "Eli can't do it all himself." That's true. But it certainly appears, given the Colts record this season, that's exactly what his brother Peyton has been doing in Indy for who knows how long now. :yes:
Lions DT Ndamukong Suh suspended 2 games....
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 29, 2011, 12:52:30 PM
Lions DT Ndamukong Suh suspended 2 games....
^^ What really needs to happen to that guy is to have his sponsors drop him. He needs a serious hit in the wallet.
Quote from: Locutus on November 29, 2011, 01:37:44 PM
^^ What really needs to happen to that guy is to have his sponsors drop him. He needs a serious hit in the wallet.
I can see that happening actually, now that he has this fine.....I would NOT think he is too marketable except maybe in the Detroit metro area.
0 - 12
Quote from: Palehorse on December 04, 2011, 03:50:43 PM
0 - 12 Indpls
12 - 0 Green Bayhttp://www.youtube.com/v/TfW1FdTnQJ0
Lions vs Saints. . . Saints are eating Lion for dinner this Sunday evening!
Quote from: Locutus on November 29, 2011, 01:37:44 PM
^^ What really needs to happen to that guy is to have his sponsors drop him. He needs a serious hit in the wallet.
he just took a serious hit to a tree with his car...
Ndamukong Suh crashes car into tree...http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7310399/ndamukong-suh-detroit-lions-unharmed-crashing-car-tree
Good! I also see where his appeal of the two game suspension was denied.
7 - 5 Da bears...
never mind... :-[
Sux to be Oakland today! :biggrin: (43 - 7 Green Bay in the 3rd quarter))
GO PACK!
Hey, the Colts WON! Anyone else happy about that besides me?
Hey, God loves Tom Brady too!! :razz:
Quote from: Anne on December 18, 2011, 08:02:28 PM
Hey, the Colts WON! Anyone else happy about that besides me?
I glad the won, I don't like to see anyone for Indiana get skunked. They finally got of the pot. :spot: :biggrin:
Apparently they need candles at Candlestick tonight!!
Quote from: Locutus on December 19, 2011, 09:47:41 PM
Apparently they need candles at Candlestick tonight!!
:food24: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Well, the Colts won another one, by stealing a win out of the hands of the Texans last night.
I think the refs must have been paid off by one of the other two teams in the suck for luck running, because they pimp slapped Houston with at least a couple of highly questionable calls in the last 2 minutes, that resulted in the Colts eventually scoring the game winner with about 19 ticks left on the clock. . .
Ole' Jeebus is a Buffalo fan!! :rotfl:
are ya ready for some foooooootballlllllllllallllll?
Colts win the suck for Luck sweepstakes, but lose the game!
i like the colts, i dont care if they win or lose, they are close to home, and i am not an ohio team fan. i do like the steelers, and miami. lol, i am just not loyal am i?? :rolleyes:
(http://sports.cbsimg.net/u/photos/football/nfl/img15835635.jpg)
Which guy will be the next head coach for the Indpls Colts?
(http://www.nflpassers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/large_jeff-fisher324.jpg)
Okay, here is the latest "rumor" from a friend just told me he had heard on AM radio. ;)
That Jeff Fisher IS interested in coming here, BUT, would NOT be micro-manged by any GM. Polian is well known to be a micro manager.
Caldwell will be gone, none the less.
Houston is winning in the 4th!
My eleven year old son and I had a blast Saturday night as we ventured down to see what exactly all the hoopla was all about at the NFL Village downtown Indy. We decided NOT to do the NFL Experience as the crowd was pretty big, and my son was not too excited about waiting in lines. We went to Champs and amazingly got right in. My son was wanting to see some celebrities, so we made our way over to St. Elmo's and the crowd looked like a red carpet event at the Oscars. As we were walking along, a golf cart drove righ next to us, and Jessica Simpson was in it....it was going slow through the crowd, she rubbed my son's head and smiled really big at him...that made HIM smile. We saw Tim Teabow and the back of Brad Pitt. Cris Collensworth walked right past us along with Chris Evans (Captin America). So, my son was tickled to death.
The zip line was very cool, as about every 2 minutes along went a screaming victim with the crowd below chreering them on. It was 80' in the air and was 650' long.....all below was astro turf with food and beer vendors set up all along the street. It was the biggest party I had ever witnessed. The people was all very kind and having a great time.
Indy set the bar very high for the upcoming SB's. I am quite certain we WILL see another SB here in the near future.
The whole event was really amazing.
Glad your son enjoyed it.
Will be a great memory for him to talk about for the rest of his life.
Good job, dad.
Glad you had a good time HH. I knew you guys would enjoy it if you ventured down there. The only bad thing is the crowds, but if you got to see some celebrities, then it was worth it.
I am not a person who likes crowds...and if it was not for my son, I probably would not have went....but, after the fact, I am very glad I did.
We both had a very good time....and it WAS incredibly crowded.
My oldest son, works for a security company and was backstage of the NFL Honors and got to meet many of the stars. He said Alec Baldwin was really nice and very funny. He also said Broadway Joe Nameth came up to him and just started talking to him....that he was really cool with him.
He also did security for the Patriot "after" party....he shook Steven Tylers hand, and that made my son's night pretty cool.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 06, 2012, 01:09:30 PM
He also said Broadway Joe Nameth came up to him and just started talking to him....
Was ole' Joe sober? :rotfl:
http://www.youtube.com/v/Gc65NC44dSk
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Now that is funny...
I didn't ask him...but I will.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 06, 2012, 01:09:30 PM
I am not a person who likes crowds...and if it was not for my son, I probably would not have went....but, after the fact, I am very glad I did.
We both had a very good time....and it WAS incredibly crowded.
My oldest son, works for a security company and was backstage of the NFL Honors and got to meet many of the stars. He said Alec Baldwin was really nice and very funny. He also said Broadway Joe Nameth came up to him and just started talking to him....that he was really cool with him.
He also did security for the Patriot "after" party....he shook Steven Tylers hand, and that made my son's night pretty cool.
WOW! All of these little pennies from heaven. :haha:
I heard that guy really sobered up. Sure hope it is true. Is nice to see a story that says, "I DID IT".
So what comes next year? Who is moving? Who quit? Who unquit?
Is Peyton now Eli's older brother?
I think they should have a super bowl, then a super duper bowl so i can use up all these paper plates and stuff.
Or not.
:smile: