first off, i should stick a disclaimer in here. i am a conspiracy theorist. if you are not one, or if you consider 'conspiracy theorist' an insult, you may not want to keep reading. i get passionate, and emphatic about hypocracy, and what i see as the rewriting of history. at these times, i will swear. a lot. also, i am fairly topical. most of the stuff i write will be out of date in a couple of months. i'll leave it posted, so people can get a sence of where i stand, but i'm not going to respond to people who want to argue a point long after it has become moot. i've been known to make predictions, and i'm correct the usual 50% of the time, so if you are here to point out when i'm wrong, go start your own thrash thread. (i'll probably read it) otherwise, listen to me, join me, heckle me, or whatever.
let the festivities begin...
:rant:
Lets hear 'em!
history lesson boys and girls. does anyone remember 2001? not september, before that. we got a brand new appointee...er president or whatever. do you remember what happened to the economy? how it went in the shitter? the 'dot-com bubble burst', or whatever other excuse came up? it got so bad that if the planes hadn't hit the towers and stopped trading, we were in for a market crash that would have made the 20's look like a golden age by comparison. so, ok. we'll buy it. the dot-com bubble burst or whatever. (couldn't have had anything to do with anticipation of the shrubs influence...nahhhh) so anyhow there we are, repubs shouting about an 'inherited economy', and 'many factors at work'.
SO WHY THE FUCK IS IT NOW THE SHRUBS TAX POLICY GETTING CREDIT FOR THIS "BOOMING" (AND I USE THE TERM LOOSELY) COMEBACK???
FUCK THAT, YOU WANT CREDIT, YOU GET BLAME. WE HAD SIX YEARS OF HELL FOR YOU TO ANSWER FOR BEFORE YOU GET SHIT FROM THIS VOTER!
Quote from: awol on September 22, 2006, 07:48:17 PM
history lesson boys and girls. does anyone remember 2001? not september, before that. we got a brand new appointee...er president or whatever. do you remember what happened to the economy? how it went in the shitter? the 'dot-com bubble burst', or whatever other excuse came up? it got so bad that if the planes hadn't hit the towers and stopped trading, we were in for a market crash that would have made the 20's look like a golden age by comparison. so, ok. we'll buy it. the dot-com bubble burst or whatever. (couldn't have had anything to do with anticipation of the shrubs influence...nahhhh) so anyhow there we are, repubs shouting about an 'inherited economy', and 'many factors at work'.
SO WHY THE FUCK IS IT NOW THE SHRUBS TAX POLICY GETTING CREDIT FOR THIS "BOOMING" (AND I USE THE TERM LOOSELY) COMEBACK???
FUCK THAT, YOU WANT CREDIT, YOU GET BLAME. WE HAD SIX YEARS OF HELL FOR YOU TO ANSWER FOR BEFORE YOU GET SHIT FROM THIS VOTER!
I think he by far getting his share of blame of things...Katrina...that was a joke...911....even more of a joke...but, the economy IS better because of the TAX CUTS....period.......these are unusual times....I don't care how much you like to hate me....I like the repubs way of handling MOST things....not all, but most....I think America thinks so too....that is why they are in the white hous, the senate and congress....and even after all of the media's attempt to smear them....they will STILL be in charge after november.....(there's a prediction from me)
AWOL....I know that you and I will never agree when it comes to politics.....but, I think we could have a good, enjoyable time over a beer and a pizza, talkin family, kids and stuff....I respect your passion for your beliefs if anything else.....
you're wrong henry. (not just about bush either :wink:)
there are some folks i can't stand, but you aren't one of 'em. i'll bet you have one hell of a fourth of july cookout, and memorial day celebration. i'll bet you go to church, sing loud, and mean every word. i'll bet i'd get a kick out of hanging out with you, now, and i'll bet i woulda gotten a bigger kick out of it when you were a raising hell little punk kid who didn't know shit from shinola. now we just disagree on a couple of points.
but i like you.
that shit out of the way...
learn to argue poopiehead.
"...Katrina...that was a joke...911....even more of a joke..."
Fallacy: Appeal to Ridicule
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Also Known as: Appeal to Mockery, The Horse Laugh.
Description of Appeal to Ridicule
The Appeal to Ridicule is a fallacy in which ridicule or mockery is substituted for evidence in an "argument." This line of "reasoning" has the following form:
X, which is some form of ridicule is presented (typically directed at the claim).
Therefore claim C is false.
This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because mocking a claim does not show that it is false. This is especially clear in the following example: "1+1=2! That's the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard!"
"...but, the economy IS better because of the TAX CUTS....period......."
Correlation implies causation
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This article has been tagged since July 2006.
Correlation implies causation is a logical fallacy by which two events that occur together are prematurely claimed to have a cause-and-effect relationship. It is also known as cum hoc ergo propter hoc (Latin for "with this, therefore because of this") and false cause.
LMAO! :biggrin: thanks cookie! i had forgotten all about that!
Quote from: awol on September 22, 2006, 09:38:54 PM
you're wrong henry. (not just about bush either :wink:)
there are some folks i can't stand, but you aren't one of 'em. i'll bet you have one hell of a fourth of july cookout, and memorial day celebration. i'll bet you go to church, sing loud, and mean every word. i'll bet i'd get a kick out of hanging out with you, now, and i'll bet i woulda gotten a bigger kick out of it when you were a raising hell little punk kid who didn't know shit from shinola. now we just disagree on a couple of points.
but i like you.
that shit out of the way...
learn to argue poopiehead.
"...Katrina...that was a joke...911....even more of a joke..."
Fallacy: Appeal to Ridicule
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Also Known as: Appeal to Mockery, The Horse Laugh.
Description of Appeal to Ridicule
The Appeal to Ridicule is a fallacy in which ridicule or mockery is substituted for evidence in an "argument." This line of "reasoning" has the following form:
X, which is some form of ridicule is presented (typically directed at the claim).
Therefore claim C is false.
This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because mocking a claim does not show that it is false. This is especially clear in the following example: "1+1=2! That's the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard!"
"...but, the economy IS better because of the TAX CUTS....period......."
Correlation implies causation
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This article has been tagged since July 2006.
Correlation implies causation is a logical fallacy by which two events that occur together are prematurely claimed to have a cause-and-effect relationship. It is also known as cum hoc ergo propter hoc (Latin for "with this, therefore because of this") and false cause.
uh...but it is better....
hoc ergo propter hoc....things either get better or worse because of circumstances that present itself....hoc erog, taxes cut, people spent there extra money, the economy strengthens....and more taxes are generated through sales....hoc, hoc hoc....it IS as simple as 1+1=2.....really...
this is the same ole same old, but, Bush called Katriana a National Disaster 2 days before it hit....blame the Mayor, the Gov...because there was people still there when it hit....they had 1000 buses sitting there they could have gotten EVERYBODY who wanted to leave out of there, but the lack of leadership was present....911, How can you even possibley blame that on the Pres? that is like blaming FDR for the attack on Pearl Harbor....
poopiehead, poopiehead...if I'm one then you are two of them....hows that for arguement :wink:
still at square one, huh?
look, i don't give a shit if you wanna credit the prez for the change in the economy.
just be consistent. in other words...BLAME HIM WHEN IT'S BAD TOO. and it was bad. unless you guys wanna rewrite that too.
Quote from: awol on September 22, 2006, 10:08:28 PM
still at square one, huh?
look, i don't give a shit if you wanna credit the prez for the change in the economy.
just be consistent. in other words...BLAME HIM WHEN IT'S BAD TOO. and it was bad. unless you guys wanna rewrite that too.
don't want to rewrite anything, but pete sakes, we just went through the greatest attack on this countrys soil ever....that was very devasting to the economy, and then the largest hurricane to ever hit US soil strkes and that was pretty harsh also....we have a war going on....and all in all, it hung in there and is doing very well right now....
You want me to blame this pres on something, I will, he allow way, way too much spending, too much pork bills passed and he hasn't been very quick to do something about illeagle immigration.....those are legit complaint to me....
religion.
this crap is never gonna end. but this post ...
Quote from: Pa Kettle on September 29, 2006, 05:22:20 PM
The "opinions" of one so blatantly anti-Christian should certainly be viewed with not a small amount of skepticism.
You remind me of the people who just couldn't figure out what the "coloreds" were so up in arms about in the early 60's.
Your blatant refusal to recognize that there are people in high places (government, media, and secular society) who are attempting to alter the freedoms that Christians have enjoyed in this country since it's inception is far beneath both your intelligence, and that of the average forum member.
The freedoms that enable Christians to live out their faith as the Lord mandated ARE under attack---you simply posit that those freedoms should never have been allowed to take root in the first place.
Your attitude is understandable--your denial is not.
really gets under my skin. we 'non faiths' are now somehow the oppressors? ok, evangelists. defend it. c'mon, lets hear about all the freedoms of religion being stifled. how it's a doctrine of your faith to spread the word, not just live it.
oh, by the way. does that mean that a (purely hypothetical)
american islam extremist has the god-given (and therefore government sanctioned) right to slaughter as many of you as he can between ramshad-whatever and slakashti-yougethepoint?
oh, he doesn't? hmmm. kinda infringes on HIS FUCKING RELIGION THEN, DOESN'T IT? SO LETS HEAR IT, HYPOCRITES! C'MON, I'LL EVEN START... "apples and oranges..."
bullshit. anything commanded by your god is exactly equal to anything commanded by any other god.
Quoteyou certainly don't have my vote for the math literate
War=money
money=power
power=orgasm
so by a very simple math rule war=orgasm
I don't get why people cannot memorize simple numbers! My husband, who is stuck in Chicago just called because all he can find to eat are these pubs which are cash only. Well, he has cash in his bank and can get to an ATM, BUT...he can't remember the PIN. I have never even looked at the PIN for that card, so I surely don't know it. I know the one that goes to each of the cards I keep. Heck, he even doesn't know our home number -- duh-- and had to call my dad for that. How hard are those little things to remember???!!
well, the dems took the house & senate. did i miss the news reports where the terrorists were dancing in the street over this?
i can't find an avatar that i like. :mad:
Quote from: awol on September 29, 2006, 07:00:12 PM
religion.
this crap is never gonna end. but this post ...
really gets under my skin. we 'non faiths' are now somehow the oppressors? ok, evangelists. defend it. c'mon, lets hear about all the freedoms of religion being stifled. how it's a doctrine of your faith to spread the word, not just live it.
oh, by the way. does that mean that a (purely hypothetical) american islam extremist has the god-given (and therefore government sanctioned) right to slaughter as many of you as he can between ramshad-whatever and slakashti-yougethepoint?
oh, he doesn't? hmmm. kinda infringes on HIS FUCKING RELIGION THEN, DOESN'T IT? SO LETS HEAR IT, HYPOCRITES! C'MON, I'LL EVEN START... "apples and oranges..."
bullshit. anything commanded by your god is exactly equal to anything commanded by any other god.
What specifically about the post bothered you, awol?
Your comparison between what I was talking about and refusing an Islamoterrorist the right to kill as many of us as he wants is ludicrous, don't you think?
As for my origional statement that Christian freedoms are under attack in America, please google up "Alliance Defense Fund" (among others) and you'll see at least part of where I'm coming from.
those "freedoms" you spoke of were no more "freedoms" than oh, say anal raping a panda. prolly not a law against that. does that mean it is a constitutional right? you folks (evangelists) infringed. period. and now that you are being called on it, you want to compare your level of "suffering" to the black population of the 60's? while you live in the single most religiously free country? in the single most christian-friendly time in it's history??? get help.
Did you call up and investigate the cite I posted, awol?
How is America experiencing the most "Christian Friendly" years since it began?
why would i do that?
Why wouldn't you?
because that would extend to you a courtesy that you don't show anyone.
you are a small single-minded individual who believes he is living the best life possible, and therefore sees no particular harm in imposing that life on any and all he comes into contact with.
bout cover it?
I always read the provided sites, awol.
How am I small-minded--because I have passion and conviction?
As for "imposing " my beliefs on anyone---that's crap; pure and simple.
Anyone can and does choose to believe what they will, and live as they see fit, and for that I'm very grateful.
You can't impose Christianity on anyone, awol, even if the law caused the outward trappings of Christianity to be mandatory.
You can't make someone a Christian against their will, and besides, God does the "making"---not men or men's laws.
Quote from: Pa Kettle on November 13, 2006, 07:04:28 PM
How is America experiencing the most "Christian Friendly" years since it began?
just the existance of this should be disturbing.
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1058/is_4_122/ai_n11842271
Why?
Quote from: Pa Kettle on November 13, 2006, 07:23:36 PM
I always read the provided sites, awol.
How am I small-minded--because I have passion and conviction?
no. because you are not willing to have your convictions challenged. i would bet you never have.
Quote
As for "imposing " my beliefs on anyone---that's crap; pure and simple.
Anyone can and does choose to believe what they will, and live as they see fit, and for that I'm very grateful. You can't impose Christianity on anyone, awol, even if the law caused the outward trappings of Christianity to be mandatory.
i didn't say anything about imposing a belief. i know that is impossible. a lifestyle, that's completely different. a world with no more abortion, no pornography, no violent video games...
QuoteYou can't make someone a Christian against their will, and besides, God does the "making"---not men or men's laws.
"gods" - plural. there are many. just ask anyone non-christian.
Quote from: Pa Kettle on November 13, 2006, 07:29:24 PM
Why?
because the title wasn't "most influential jews", or athiests, or satanics, or buddists, or tao...
it's a sign of pandering to the evangelicals by a highly respected magazine.
I do read the provided sites, awol--I'm interested in anything that runs counter to my beliefs for several reasons, not the least of which is that I have a generally inquisitive mind.
As for having my convictions challenged; they're challenged every single day if you're a Christian living in a multi-cultural, secular society.
Also, in none of my posts have you/will you find a single incidence in which I stated that I think the laws should be changed to outlaw all abortions, pornography or violent video games--not one.
You've jumped to several conclusions, awol--you usually don't do that.
you're right. i made assumptions based on past experiences with others of your genre that may not apply to you.
so tell me. are you a pro-abortion evangelical christian?
Quote from: awol on November 13, 2006, 07:34:55 PM
because the title wasn't "most influential jews", or athiests, or satanics, or buddists, or tao...
it's a sign of pandering to the evangelicals by a highly respected magazine.
Reporting about influential leaders and personalities of the predominant religion in an America that is currently examining the role of Christianity within and without the halls of government, schools, and other aspects of American life is "pandering".
By that criteria Rolling Stone "panders" to rock, soul, and hip-hop audiences at the expense of all those accordion fans out there.
Quote from: Pa Kettle on November 13, 2006, 07:44:50 PM
Reporting about influential leaders and personalities of the predominant religion in an America that is currently examining the role of Christianity within and without the halls of government, schools, and other aspects of American life is "pandering".
your words. not mine. "the predominant religion". how can you possibly be opressed???
Quote
By that criteria Rolling Stone "panders" to rock, soul, and hip-hop audiences at the expense of all those accordion fans out there.
no, not exactly. see i would expect the article i posted to be found in "christian today".
in exactly the same way i would expect ozzy osborne to show up in rolling stone.
an article on ozzy osborne in "christian today" would be as unexpected as the article i posted.
ok, i gotta appologize for one thing. i've been 'hot-seating' this debate cuz i wanna boost the posts in my area so i don't have to scroll so far. usually i give it more thought.
Quote from: awol on November 13, 2006, 07:43:49 PM
you're right. i made assumptions based on past experiences with others of your genre that may not apply to you.
so tell me. are you a pro-abortion evangelical christian?
As you yourself stated previously--no one is "pro abortion".
Well, almost no one, anyway.
Let me repeat my stance on this terribly painful and complex issue for you, awol--maybe that will help.
In a theocratic America, of course abortion on demand as the laws currently read would be abolished, and I'd back it 100% because I BELIEVE that a "divine spark" is at the bottom of the exact moment of fertilization, and that "God knew mw in my mother's womb" as the bible teaches. I also am convinced that women are much more hurt than helped by abortions when examined over the long term.
That being said, America IS NOT a theocracy, and I'm VERY HAPPY that it isn't.
Our government past and present has proven time and again that they can screw up a two-car funeral procession----no WAY would I want them to have their collective hands on the reins of Christianity.
We Christians love the Lord, most of us are volunteers, and are motivated by Christ Himself and WE screw up the faith sometimes to the point of being unrecognizable, so obviously, paid beaurocrats aren't the answer.
Anyway, we live in a secular society that wants abortion available at least in some cases--I do too.
I'm a "majority rules" guy almost always in regard to governmental policy, and America clearly doesn't want abortions outlawed across the board.
However, America (the large majority) has also clearly articulated that they don't believe in later term abortions except in the EXTREMELY rare case in which the carrying of and delivery of a child to full term will truly endanger the actual physical life of the mother, and NEVER in a "partial birth" way. I agree.
Related to the whole abortion thing:
I'm not against the "morning after pill", I'm not against fetal stem cell research as long as the cells are collected from dead fetuses, and understand the felt need of some to allow for abortion in the first two months in cases of rape/incest, though again, I truly am convinced that the having of an abortion for those reasons will simply come back to haunt the recipient in a "two wrongs don't make a right" fashion way more often than not.
While I'm at it, you also made some assumptions about my feelings and wishes regarding whether or not pornography and violent video games should be abolished, and again you were wrong.
It's a free country, and if it even floats someoone's boat to watch a video of some naked woman rubbing herself all over with dead puppies--okay, go for it. BUT there should be REAL safeguards in place that would prevent kids from seeing it, and HUGE fines for any business or adult that tries to circumvent those safeguards.
As for violent video games, I'm perfectly happy with the current ratings/warning labels that are required by law.
I'm sorry this post is so long, but I wanted to make sure you understand at least partially what I'm all about, instead of continuing to try to cram me into the "Evangelical" pigeon-hole you've come to believe typifies common Christian thought and sensitivities.
You're one of the most even handed people from "your side of the aisle" in here, and have exhibited many times the ability to slow down, reread posts, and reacess both someone else's position as well as your own, and I sincerely commend you for that, awol.
Neither of us have to like or admire the other(though thatr would be great), but let's at least make sure that we base those likes or dislikes on what we REALLY are, instead of some erroneous suppositions made about the other because of interactions we've both had in the past with people who seem on the surface to be "the same".
:)
dude, i'm getting a dell. :rant: :rant: :rant:
my boss decided i needed a new laptop at work, so i asked what my budget was. they gave me a figure, and told me to go find the system i wanted. i found an alienware area51, and submitted the request and then purchasing took that request over to IT and shit a dell all over it. fuckers. :rant: :rant: :rant:
LMAO!!!
You guys don't get it. There's a difference between pro-abortion and pro-choice.
Quote from: MsMojo on November 16, 2006, 05:36:30 AM
You guys don't get it. There's a difference between pro-abortion and pro-choice.
Yes I do...but it still comes down to the same thing, the killing of a human fetus, that is the point as far as I'm concerned....
alright! who the hell smited me??
what for?
i had a perfect record, goddamnit! :rant:
Who'd you make mad today? :biggrin:
I was wonderin' the same thing.
Got a smite from the right, I think!!!
:yes: :yes: :yes:
hey don't be feeling all alone, someone out there hasn't liked what I had to say, THREE times!! I haven't looked in the last couple of minutes, might even be 4 or 5. LOL
There ya go.
A smackeroo to make up for the smiteroo!!
awwww...how sweet.....now, about my driveway when the snow hits? :biggrin:
OOOOooohhh
My achin' back.
It's all I can do to get my own clean.
Shew.
LOL, damnit!!
Nice of you to ask, though.
Haven't been asked to shovel someone's driveway for some time now.
:dance:
There are some things I'm not shy about, asking for help with my home is one of those things. I'm thinking I'm going to look pretty funny in that thermal coverall that the ex left behind at 5am out there shoveling snow though.
seriously. fes up. i wanna know who smited me, and what for!
Quote from: awol on December 19, 2006, 09:05:06 PM
seriously. fes up. i wanna know who smited me, and what for!
nobody gonna cop to it? :mad:
I didn't smack ya, but here's an "atta boy" to offset it.
Doesn't make up for whoever besmirched you, I know.
But, hey, just think of it as losing your virginity all over again.
Quote from: followsthewolf on December 20, 2006, 11:03:53 AM
I didn't smack ya, but here's an "atta boy" to offset it.
Doesn't make up for whoever besmirched you, I know.
But, hey, just think of it as losing your virginity all over again.
thanks. dammit though, i had a perfect record going! then somebody comes in and whacks me right before i had 100. why? who did i piss off? how? :mad:
LOL what makes you think you pissed anyone off? Maybe that's why they did it, just because you DIDN'T have any smites.
I dunno who smited ya, but I applauded ya. :)
Don't say I never gave you nuthin.
Quote from: ~Daisy~ on December 20, 2006, 02:21:49 PM
I dunno who smited ya, but I applauded ya. :)
Don't say I never gave you nuthin.
right back atcha, thanks.
but i still wanna know! it's like i got 1 smite. somebody musta felt pretty strongly to 'break the seal'. i gotta know why!
I don't really know what I did to deserve getting ate, er eight. oops. LOL
Quote from: ~Daisy~ on December 20, 2006, 02:28:13 PM
I don't really know what I did to deserve getting ate, er eight. oops. LOL
slip of the tounge? ;D
Yeah, must be!
Wishful thinking.
Hey poopiehead, a Christmas present for you....I gave you your 100th applaud.....seemed like the least I can do....me being a conservative, christian-minded, republican, nice-guy hawk and all....
What?? Just because my man is 2000+ miles away doesn't mean I'm not looking forward to getting some.
cold shower....quick...!!
LOL Chicken Bath!
Yeah, she needs one....wishful thinking outloud, that could get to be a problem in the wrong company, young lady. :biggrin:
"soup's on"?
Quote from: ~Daisy~ on December 20, 2006, 02:40:01 PM
Do you know how to make a hawk squawk?
Ive been known to squawk once in a while.. ;)
ROFLMAO
FUCK!!!!!!!!!! :mad:
NOW I GOT 2 OF THEM!!!!!!!!!!
WHO IS DOING THIS, AND WHY?
now I'm thinking it's about the countdown. LOL
Somebody's messin' with your head, Dude.
just saw my new favorite t-shirt:
i pledge a grievence to the flag
of the united states of america
and to the republicans
which i can't stand
one nation, under smog,
with liberty - just not for us all.
I kinda' like it too. :biggrin:
Quote from: awol on December 28, 2006, 02:13:39 PM
just saw my new favorite t-shirt:
i pledge a grievence to the flag
of the united states of america
and to the republicans
which i can't stand
one nation, under smog,
with liberty - just not for us all.
;D
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!....NOT! :no:
That is clever, awol :biggrin:
Where can I get one of those? (I'd change republicans to politicians though)
http://www.interpunk.com/item.cfm?Item=100101&
selected song lyrics:
lou reed - walk on the wild side
Candy came from out on the Island
In the backroom she was everybody's darlin'
But she never lost her head
Even when she was giving head
She says, Hey babe
Take a walk on the wild side.
grateful dead - truckin'
What in the world ever became of sweet Jane?
She lost her sparkle you know she isn't the same
Living on reds and vitamin C and cocaine
All her friends can say is ain't it a shame
ok, given the bolded sections of these songs, why the hell do they bleep out this song?
third eye blind - semi charmed life
I'm packed and I'm holding,
I'm smiling, she's living, she's golden and
she lives for me, She says she lives for me,
Ovation, She's got her own motivation,
she comes round and she goes down on me,
And I make her smile, It's like a drug for you,
Do ever what you want to do,
Coming over you,
Keep on smiling,
what we go through.
One stop to the rhythm that divides you,
And I speak to you like the chorus to the verse,
Chop another line like a coda with a curse,
And I come on like a freak show takes the stage.
We give them the games we play, she said,
I want something else, to get me through this,
Semi-charmed kind of life,
I want something else,
I'm not listening when you say, Good-bye.
The sky it was gold, it was rose,
I was taking sips of it through my nose,
And I wish I could get back there,
Some place back there,
Smiling in the pictures you would take,
Doing crystal myth,
Will lift you up until you break,
It won't stop,
I won't come down, I keep stock,
With a tick tock rhythm and a bump for the drop,
And then I bumped up. I took the hit I was given,
Then I bumped again,
And then I bumped again.
How do I get back there to,
The place where I fell asleep inside you?
How do I get myself back to,
The place where you said,
I want something else to get me through this,
semi-charmed kind of life,
I want something else,
I'm not listening when you say, good-bye,
I believe in the sand beneath my toes,
The beach gives a feeling,
An earthy feeling,
I believe in the faith that grows,
And the four right chords can make me cry,
When I'm with you I feel like I could die.
And that would be all right,
All right, When the plane came in,
She said she was crashing,
The velvet it rips,
In the city we tripped,
On the urge to feel alive,
But now I'm struggling to survive,
The days you were wearing,
That velvet dress,
You're the priestess,
must confess,
Those little red panties,
They pass the test,
Slide up around the belly,
Face down on the mattress,
One,
Now you hold me,
And we're broken.
Still it's all that I want to do.
Feel myself with a head made of the ground,
I'm scared but I'm not coming down.
And I won't run for my life,
She's got her jaws just locked now in smile
but nothing is all right,
All right, I want something else,
To get me through this,
Semi-charmed kind of life,
I want something else,
I'm not listening when you say,
good-bye.
what do you value more - politeness or consideration?
example: polite - fart and say "excuse me", considerate - leave the room to fart and say "damn beans".
considerate first...polite if necessary
thanks.
not a real popular topic it seems.
I'm all about not popular....I play with the underdogs. :wink:
Neither--just fart and blame it on the chick with the big boobs standing next to you!
Sooooo.........what does the chick with the big boobs do when she farts?
(straight line)
misinformation.
dangerous in certain situations, harmful in others, but in trivia, its...well...trivial.
does it matter whether the guy in the statue was killed in battle and you can tell 'cuz the horse he is on has 2 feet in the air?
nope. not one bit. unless yer doin' a paper on "this guy", and you happen to be wrong about this detail of his life, and yer major is "the life and times of this guy". then you'll be the laughingstock of the "the life and times of" department of the college. you'll never get your masters degree in "this guy", much less yer phd.
but i digress.
who does it hurt to say "golf" originated from an acronym, or the kid from the wonder years is marylin manson? (other than marylin manson)
get a grip, fuckers.
choose yer battles. some don't make a shit-bit of difference.
Quote from: awol on January 26, 2007, 04:47:35 PM
misinformation.
dangerous in certain situations, harmful in others, but in trivia, its...well...trivial.
does it matter whether the guy in the statue was killed in battle and you can tell 'cuz the horse he is on has 2 feet in the air?
nope. not one bit. unless yer doin' a paper on "this guy", and you happen to be wrong about this detail of his life, and yer major is "the life and times of this guy". then you'll be the laughingstock of the "the life and times of" department of the college. you'll never get your masters degree in "this guy", much less yer phd.
but i digress.
who does it hurt to say "golf" originated from an acronym, or the kid from the wonder years is marylin manson? (other than marylin manson)
get a grip, fuckers.
choose yer battles. some don't make a shit-bit of difference.
Nobody said it was serious. Just a bit of harmless word play and pi$$in' around.
And you're right. It isn't serious. But, man, don't you bust a gut over such a harmless little diversion.
Throw back another one and relax.
Quote from: IYT IYT IYT on February 20, 2007, 08:46:17 AM
If I owned shares of Halliburton, I'd be a hypocrite, and a hypocrite I am not (or try not to be).
this quote got me thinkin'. what's yer price? what do you sell your credibility for?
anyone?
Quote from: Locutus on February 26, 2007, 01:54:51 AM
...It is my opinion that you have to disengage a large part of your brain to believe in such malarky.
:yes:
you wanna get rich? invent something that takes away the need to think. when mcdonalds started out, there were many people who thought it would go under - "why would i pay someone to make something i can make at home?" why.
linux is superior to any microsoft operating system in almost every way. and much cheaper. why would anyone use windows? you don't have to think about it.
people don't like to have to think for themselves or do for themselves, and if they can throw money at someone to do/think for them, they will.
Quote from: awol on February 26, 2007, 07:30:33 AM
:yes:
you wanna get rich? invent something that takes away the need to think. when mcdonalds started out, there were many people who thought it would go under - "why would i pay someone to make something i can make at home?" why.
linux is superior to any microsoft operating system in almost every way. and much cheaper. why would anyone use windows? you don't have to think about it.
people don't like to have to think for themselves or do for themselves, and if they can throw money at someone to do/think for them, they will.
Do you know why Microsoft is king in the business world? It's precisely because of what you said - people don't/can't think for themselves. They wnat everything to be "compatible" with their Word or Excel, etc. Yes, I know. You can produce "compatible" documents with Open Office.
But try to send an attachment via e-mail to someone who doesn't know how to do anything but click on the attachment to open it. They're lost. They don't know how to setup assocations for attachments and heaven forbid you tell them to save the attachment and then open it with their application.
Been there, Dude!
Quote from: awol on February 26, 2007, 07:30:33 AM
people don't like to have to think for themselves or do for themselves, and if they can throw money at someone to do/think for them, they will.
that sounds like democrats....let's let Government do the thinking for us...they know how to spend our hard earned money better than we do....just tax us, and distribute it to those who need it....yeah that's it!... ;D
politicize it. spoken like a true sheep. baaaa henry. baaaaa.
Quote from: awol on February 26, 2007, 06:37:25 PM
politicize it. spoken like a true sheep. baaaa henry. baaaaa.
and how is this different than every other issue?....just made a point, and I did not expect you to get it...but, it is true.... ;) :)
ok, back on poly-tics then...
any bets on how long before scooter is quietly pardoned?
He'll appeal it for a couple of years and Bush will pardon him just before he leaves office, since the boy "took one for the team."
Saved Rove's and Cheney's a$$es.
alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllrighty then.
i been told some of you are sick of my avatar, so i'm now accepting submissions for a new one.
post pics, vote on yer fav's and i'll pick one based on my personal preferance. :razz:
Quote from: awol on March 09, 2007, 02:53:50 PM
alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllrighty then.
i been told some of you are sick of my avatar, so i'm now accepting submissions for a new one.
post pics, vote on yer fav's and i'll pick one based on my personal preferance. :razz:
http://www.infernosoft.com/images/AWOL-Chickenseal.jpg (http://www.infernosoft.com/images/AWOL-Chickenseal.jpg)
(http://www.infernosoft.com/images/AWOL-Chickenseal.jpg)
perfect...
I like your avatar :(
thanks pari! :biggrin:
is this what you were talkin' 'bout, henry?
:confused:
(http://www.infernosoft.com/images/ah-ah-ah.jpeg)
this went to a new page....one post (until ths one comes up) not sure if I want to go up or go down...I can see them both. :wink:
naw, i like the one i picked much better... ;)
Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 09, 2007, 06:52:09 PM
naw, i like the one i picked much better... ;)
i couldn't see the one you picked...
can you try another meathod?
btw pari, yer new avatar caught me off guard...
gave me a full-on rock-solid! :eek:
Quote from: awol on March 09, 2007, 06:53:39 PM
i couldn't see the one you picked...
can you try another meathod?
hmmm....
did ya try the link.........cause it is really cool.....specialy from a chicken hawk.. ;)
Quote from: awol on March 09, 2007, 06:55:51 PM
btw pari, yer new avatar caught me off guard...
gave me a full-on rock-solid! :eek:
no crap!.... ;D
Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 09, 2007, 06:56:28 PM
hmmm....
did ya try the link.........cause it is really cool.....specialy from a chicken hawk.. ;)
yeah! and that's where i got the picture i posted! it sent me to a "no,no,no" page. i don't have permission.
I seem to get that reaction. I'm not quite sure what it is.
Quote from: pariann on March 09, 2007, 06:58:03 PM
I'm not quite sure what it is.
well, right now it's about 8 1/2 inches, and pointing at my chin!
Ya must be eatin' a carrot.
ROFL!!! I'm SOOOOOOO sorry!!!! NOT!!
Quote from: awol on March 09, 2007, 06:57:33 PM
yeah! and that's where i got the picture i posted! it sent me to a "no,no,no" page. i don't have permission.
lemme try again...
(http://www.infernosoft.com/images/AWOL-Chickenseal.jpg)
Quote from: pariann on March 09, 2007, 07:00:15 PM
ROFL!!! I'm SOOOOOOO sorry!!!! NOT!!
afk for a while...
Quote from: followsthewolf on March 09, 2007, 07:00:08 PM
Ya must be eatin' a carrot.
If that's what they call them these days, but...ahem....eatin'? LOL
Quote from: awol on March 09, 2007, 07:02:41 PM
afk for a while...
And that seems to happen a lot too. I have a hard time holding a conversation with anyone. :(
Quote from: pariann on March 09, 2007, 07:04:00 PM
And that seems to happen a lot too. I have a hard time holding a conversation with anyone. :(
ok, i'm back.
I hope you got eveyrthing taken care of that you need to. :wink:
everything is well in hand. ;)
That's good to hear, I think. :wink:
Hmmm...I got a smite..can I rant about it here, or must I rant over in the Venting thread? :rant:
Quote from: pariann on March 10, 2007, 01:37:32 AM
That's good to hear, I think. :wink:
Hmmm...I got a smite..can I rant about it here, or must I rant over in the Venting thread? :rant:
feel free, mi rantas es su rantas.
Well I'll be damned, I got another one!! What the hell for?
looks like the applause and smiting is gone.
weird. I forgot it was there, actually.
Do you miss it? I don't. I paid very little attention to it myself. . . :smile:
pfft, I'm glad it's gone, if someone doesn't like what I have to say, and they have nothing nice to say about it...keep their thoughts to themselves...if they want to express that they don't like it....we got pm's. This annonymous smiting...pffft
pfft!
pffft...pffft...
Henry farted.
how rude! >:(
Hey.....those who smelt it delt it..... ;)....................DAISY!! :yes:
pull one from the repub playbook. blame yer predicessor. nice. next you'll blame the dog, and call anyone who challenges the dog's right to fart a "cat-lover".
pretty much how i feel about politics...
john mayer "waiting on the world to change"
me and all my friends
we're all misunderstood
they say we stand for nothing and
there's no way we ever could
now we see everything that's going wrong
with the world and those who lead it
we just feel like we don't have the means
to rise above and beat it
so we keep waiting
waiting on the world to change
we keep on waiting
waiting on the world to change
it's hard to beat the system
when we're standing at a distance
so we keep waiting
waiting on the world to change
now if we had the power
to bring our neighbors home from war
they would have never missed a Christmas
no more ribbons on their door
and when you trust your television
what you get is what you got
cause when they own the information, oh
they can bend it all they want
that's why we're waiting
waiting on the world to change
we keep on waiting
waiting on the world to change
it's not that we don't care,
we just know that the fight ain't fair
so we keep on waiting
waiting on the world to change
and we're still waiting
waiting on the world to change
we keep on waiting waiting on the world to change
one day our generation
is gonna rule the population
so we keep on waiting
waiting on the world to change
once more on the war...for those who don't get it.
we have to set a time table and goals for troop withdrawl.
to paraphrase bill maher - "what? we're gonna bluff the iraqi insurgents into thinking we're more stubborn? while we're at it, how about we enter a drinking contest with northern ireland?"
Bill Maher is great
Who's Bill Maher?
he hosts a show called "real time" on hbo friday nights.
ahhh..I don't do HBO
google him.
don't you think that might annoy him?
Nope. He likes it. :biggrin:
he's shared with you that little tidbit? "Google me, baby, just one more time." LOL
Quote from: pariann on April 06, 2007, 11:24:23 AM
he's shared with you that little tidbit? "Google me, baby, just one more time." LOL
No. He's a shill for HBO and shills love that kind of thing! :biggrin:
I"m just getting all kinds of visuals on this..LOL I can't decide if googling is a form of goosing or something else that keeps flashing through my demented brain. :wink:
woohoo! 'awol's rants' is at the top of the list now! :biggrin:
:rant: :rant: :rant:
reaches out and googles awol, blames it on henry
:spooked:
oh, henry!
i didn't know you liked me that way... :eek:
i'd be a lucky man if i were into googling dudes.
can we still be friends?
Are we still googling here? I'm in the mood for a little google. Who's game?
awol, if I was a dude googler, It would be a privilege and an honor to be able to google together.....
Man that even felt a little weird, just jokin around........ :eek:....I need to go watch a few minutes of the 700 club.....I'll be back... ;D
*sneaks off with pariann to give her a full on five hour googling*
googling for 5 hours eh? I reckon I had better come back with a LOT of new information!! :wink:
You haven't had a rant in a month, surely there is something you want to get off of your chest??
:wink:
i'll have something to talk about just as soon as you "get something off of your chest"... :wink:
there must be a rule somewhere that complete morons drive blue pt cruisers.
that is all.
Quote from: awol on May 14, 2007, 07:39:03 AM
i'll have something to talk about just as soon as you "get something off of your chest"... :wink:
I seem to have missed this. LOL I don't know if have anything to get off of my chest. I'm not even sure I have one anymore :wink:
Quote from: awol on March 07, 2007, 07:33:46 AM
ok, back on poly-tics then...
any bets on how long before scooter is quietly pardoned?
here it is...
I seem to be having difficulty explaining this elsewhere on the forums, so I will attempt to put my thoughts together here.
First, let me say that I am environmentally conscious. The car I drive most often is a flex-fuel vehicle. I recycle bottles, cans, paper, and anything else. I keep my thermostat above 75 in the summer, and below 65 in the winter. I hike out my trash. I don't waste much of anything, least of all energy, and I believe that conservation is a good idea. It may spare some trees, and keep some rivers and lakes cleaner, and the dolphins will hug me when they see me and all that.
There are a multitude of good reasons for being responsible with your usage of the materials we have. I don't believe that global warming is one of them.
Fossil fuels are not being replenished, plastics degrade very slowly, and you can see the air in Los Angeles. None of these facts are in dispute. Global warming is. The arguments seem to center around the amount and nature of the data collected with regard to global warming, and the fact that our global environment changes naturally. Both good arguments.
So don't argue the global warming aspect. That dog won't hunt. Argue for cleaner air and water. Argue for the development and use of alternate energy sources before we run out. Argue for the next generation to be able to enjoy the things you do.
And maybe you'll get a "conservative" to consider "conserving".
Quote from: awol on August 14, 2007, 09:44:23 PM
I seem to be having difficulty explaining this elsewhere on the forums, so I will attempt to put my thoughts together here.
First, let me say that I am environmentally conscious. The car I drive most often is a flex-fuel vehicle. I recycle bottles, cans, paper, and anything else. I keep my thermostat above 75 in the summer, and below 65 in the winter. I hike out my trash. I don't waste much of anything, least of all energy, and I believe that conservation is a good idea. It may spare some trees, and keep some rivers and lakes cleaner, and the dolphins will hug me when they see me and all that.
There are a multitude of good reasons for being responsible with your usage of the materials we have. I don't believe that global warming is one of them.
Fossil fuels are not being replenished, plastics degrade very slowly, and you can see the air in Los Angeles. None of these facts are in dispute. Global warming is. The arguments seem to center around the amount and nature of the data collected with regard to global warming, and the fact that our global environment changes naturally. Both good arguments.
So don't argue the global warming aspect. That dog won't hunt. Argue for cleaner air and water. Argue for the development and use of alternate energy sources before we run out. Argue for the next generation to be able to enjoy the things you do.
And maybe you'll get a "conservative" to consider "conserving".
Hey poopie head...I missed this one....and tend to agree with you except that environmentalism is basically a misconception by the democrats as something they only respect, but it is more of a republican issue ... you go back to Teddy Roosevelt and National Parks....the EPA which was started by Richard Nixon...and the vast majority of the regulations that strengthen how we protect the environment today were signed by GOP presidents...
Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 12, 2008, 09:44:38 AM
environmentalism is more of a republican issue ...
:bsflag:
What?!? I wish I'd have seen this sooner. Maybe "anti-environmentalism is more of a republican issue". :mad:
do they really have to put "may cause drowsiness" on NyQuill anymore?
it's the "night-time, sniffling, sneezing, coughing, aching, stuffy-head, fever, oh-my-god-what-am-i-doing-in-omaha!" medicine.
LMAO! :biggrin:
Quote from: awol on March 17, 2008, 08:04:13 PM
do they really have to put "may cause drowsiness" on NyQuill anymore?
it's the "night-time, sniffling, sneezing, coughing, aching, stuffy-head, fever, oh-my-god-what-am-i-doing-in-omaha!" medicine.
uh-huh, using Nyquil for the excuse of why you had to run away. :wink:
How's that newest family member doing? Apparently keeping you too busy to spend much time online these days. :)
Quote from: awol on March 17, 2008, 08:04:13 PM
do they really have to put "may cause drowsiness" on NyQuill anymore?
it's the "night-time, sniffling, sneezing, coughing, aching, stuffy-head, fever, oh-my-god-what-am-i-doing-in-omaha!" medicine.
let alone not to operate heavy machinery...
awol......why do you have to cause such controversy? Did you know you are my pal? LOL
Quote from: pariann on March 25, 2008, 10:11:03 AM
awol......why do you have to cause such controversy? Did you know you are my pal? LOL
i get irate at a few people :icon_twisted:
i feel so special now!:biggrin:
Well, I think people just want to jump at their first thought at what others say, rather than delve a little deeper into the OP's topic and question back. Come to an understanding, maybe, before actually espousing their opinion.
This guy though, he went around to all the forums and ASKED other vets to come see your thread. That's a rumble in my opinion, when someone seems to expect all others of the same group to back him up. I gotta say though, and I will be hammered by someone somewhere, I don't think a uniform and a gun automatically affords someone respect. I remember a time when those same people were forced to join the military with their only choice being cross the border if they didn't want to. And others given the choice of prison or the service. No, I don't think everyone who joins does so with honor in mind, so why should I automatically honor and respect them. Especially when a so called Marine comes out of the service and beats on me every time I turn around for nearly 4 years??
pariann, why do women stay with abusive men, often for years? I have seen this over and over. While I now understand that it happens I still do not understand why.
One woman I knew was choked to unconsciousness twice that I know of (by her Desert Storm vet husband) but they stayed together. That is, they stayed together until one day while he slept she took his pistol and shot him in the head. She should be getting out of prison soon.
My stepdaughter's husband has not worked in over a year. He is a drug addict and a thief. She sometimes gives us some stuff so he will not pawn it. He lives off her, a full time student with a job and baby. He is sometime physically abusive but often psychologically controlling and abusive. She is smart and sexy and a hard worker. He quit school in 10th, a loser. She does not need him for support and as a man/male he could be easily be replaced by a better version. Why the hell?
Quote from: Monroe on March 25, 2008, 06:42:51 PM
pariann, why do women stay with abusive men, often for years? I have seen this over and over. While I now understand that it happens I still do not understand why.
One woman I knew was choked to unconsciousness twice that I know of (by her Desert Storm vet husband) but they stayed together. That is, they stayed together until one day while he slept she took his pistol and shot him in the head. She should be getting out of prison soon.
My stepdaughter's husband has not worked in over a year. He is a drug addict and a thief. She sometimes gives us some stuff so he will not pawn it. He lives off her, a full time student with a job and baby. He is sometime physically abusive but often psychologically controlling and abusive. She is smart and sexy and a hard worker. He quit school in 10th, a loser. She does not need him for support and as a man/male he could be easily be replaced by a better version. Why the hell?
Because most generally they are mentally abusive too and have convinced the woman she couldn't do any better because no one else would have her. They know what buttons to push and push them to the max.
SHIT!!!!
NOW I'M MOTHER-FUCKING DR. PHIL!?!?!?!
ok, i had to get that out.
back to regularly scheduled programming.
up next, how to take charge of you life without maxxing your credit cards.
As me said, the psychological component of their sick and twisted games plays a major hand in keeping the woman within reach. It may sound strange to say this but it is the old Marine Corps method of breaking down the recruit and then building them back up, taken to its extreme and leaving off the building back up part.
These women are most often psychologically addicted to the abuser. They are convinced that without them they would die, either through dependence issues or actual physical fear of being killed for leaving him. They are sick and in need of intense debriefing and counseling in order to even see the twisted situation they are in most of the time. And even then, there are no guarantees.
There is help available and if you happen to live near Hancock or Madison counties Please pm me if you know someone who needs help or is in an abusive relationship, or if you yourself are being subjected to this kind of environment. I can personally put you in touch with someone to help you take those first, hard steps toward moving your life onto the path of what it was meant to be, and make sure you are safe from danger.
Confidentiality is the law. If you do not trust even me (Yep, I'm a "man") then I encourage you to get the help you need any way you can. Get out before it is too late!
You can start here:
http://www.prevailinc.com/ (http://www.prevailinc.com/)
(Note: This is a link to a not for profit entity that specializes in providing women and children in abusive relationships a safe haven, protection, and legal assistance in removing the threats from your lives.)
One call can get you back to a life free from abuse.
Quote from: Monroe on March 25, 2008, 06:42:51 PM
pariann, why do women stay with abusive men, often for years? I have seen this over and over. While I now understand that it happens I still do not understand why.
One woman I knew was choked to unconsciousness twice that I know of (by her Desert Storm vet husband) but they stayed together. That is, they stayed together until one day while he slept she took his pistol and shot him in the head. She should be getting out of prison soon.
My stepdaughter's husband has not worked in over a year. He is a drug addict and a thief. She sometimes gives us some stuff so he will not pawn it. He lives off her, a full time student with a job and baby. He is sometime physically abusive but often psychologically controlling and abusive. She is smart and sexy and a hard worker. He quit school in 10th, a loser. She does not need him for support and as a man/male he could be easily be replaced by a better version. Why the hell?
I was once one of those women. My ex husband was not so much physically abusive as he was mentally abusive towards me. He wore me down every day that I was with him. In his eyes, I didn't amount to anything....I could do nothing right. I was the worst mom ever....couldn't keep house right....never cooked dinner on time or right...I was ugly..I was fat...nobody else would want me. If I left, I couldn't take my kids with me. But he didn't want them either...he liked it when they were out of sight. I finally got the courage to leave in 1989 after 15 years of marriage. But he convinced me that what I was doing was wrong and after a few weeks...yep..I went back. Stayed for another year. Finally left and haven't been back since. I met my 'Now" husband in 1994. We became very good friends and stayed that way. I would not commit myself to another relationship. I was scared....but after a while I did learn to love again. My hubby and I have been married for 9 years now and he is the total opposite of my ex. I am still fat...still ugly....but my hubby now tells me that in his eyes I am beautiful.....and if I want to lose weight....well then do it for me and nobody else. He tells me that I am smart....heck I even made the Dean's List at college twice now....and he tells me that I can do anything that I set my mind too. Abuse can be overcome.....but it takes a while to learn to trust again. I know...I have been there.
Quote from: smokeykat on March 25, 2008, 07:44:55 PM
I was once one of those women. My ex husband was not so much physically abusive as he was mentally abusive towards me. He wore me down every day that I was with him. In his eyes, I didn't amount to anything....I could do nothing right. I was the worst mom ever....couldn't keep house right....never cooked dinner on time or right...I was ugly..I was fat...nobody else would want me. If I left, I couldn't take my kids with me. But he didn't want them either...he liked it when they were out of sight. I finally got the courage to leave in 1989 after 15 years of marriage. But he convinced me that what I was doing was wrong and after a few weeks...yep..I went back. Stayed for another year. Finally left and haven't been back since. I met my 'Now" husband in 1994. We became very good friends and stayed that way. I would not commit myself to another relationship. I was scared....but after a while I did learn to love again. My hubby and I have been married for 9 years now and he is the total opposite of my ex. I am still fat...still ugly....but my hubby now tells me that in his eyes I am beautiful.....and if I want to lose weight....well then do it for me and nobody else. He tells me that I am smart....heck I even made the Dean's List at college twice now....and he tells me that I can do anything that I set my mind too. Abuse can be overcome.....but it takes a while to learn to trust again. I know...I have been there.
Were you married to my ex too? From the sounds of it we both lucked out only it took me 35yrs to get smart. The only thing good I can say about my former marriage is it helped me appreciate what I have now even more. Its a shame it can't work out for all abused spouse's like it has for us smokeykat. The reason I say spouse's instead of women is because there are men who are married to abusive spouse's too.
Monroe, I can't answer for other women. I wasn't brainwashed by techniques. I could leave anytime. I had support from family. The thing was, I didn't want my family to know I made a mistake. So I never talked about the abuse, or his temper. I didn't have to wear long pants and long sleeves in the summer to hide bruises. But I suffered physical abuse.
There were two other reasons why I stayed. One was that I refused to believe that my marriage was a failure. I was going to stick it out until death do us part, because that is the vow I made. The second reason, I had a situation with my children back then, related to his abusiveness If I left him and gave the reason why, I would have to admit I lied about how my daughter was hurt. Which I did to protect both her and I. The day he told me he wanted a divorce.....I had had enough, and I told him fine. 2 months later, 3 days later I was packed up and on my way back to Indiana, 3 weeks later, I was divorced. It was a lot easier for me, than it is for most women.
I'm sorry pari but I don't see a valid argument but rather, self validation within your post. If (and I believe you) you were in an abusive relationship you stayed because you made a choice to, which you are now trying to validate.
Vanity? NOT a reason to stay.
If your family supported you, then they had to know or suspect right? If they didn't know then how could they support you in an effort or desire to remove yourself and your child from such an environment?
You lied to the authorities? (Take a number on that one. Women and children in similar and worse situations do the very same thing every day.) Shame on you, but it is your choice. A choice I suspect you now regret in hindsight? (Or should).
Was it faith or pride that prevented you from making an intelligent choice? Either one is an empty reason to make such a decision.
Bravo for you that you made the choice to finally break free. Bravo! But please don't try to validate your reasoning for the time it took you to make the choice, when for the "average" woman such a delay has a high probability of ending in severe physical injury at best, and increasingly death.
Sorry, this is a very emotional topic for me. I have strong feelings on the subject. . . and I am sticking to them. Nothing personal intended.
I have strong feelings on the subject too. But those are exactly the reasons I was there. Look how easily I left. I'm not saying I was not afraid/scared. I was much of the time. But I could have left and he wouldn't have hunted me down and tried to bring me back.
My family is always supportive of us kids, as long as we don't abuse their generosity. I'm also not saying they didn't suspect, but they didn't ask, and I didn't tell. There is a huge element of the old fashioned from my generation backwards. There are just things you don't talk about. Thank God it's not there going forwards. I wish my kids were NOT as open with me as they are. But they are, and so I'm in a better position to advise and help them if they need it.
The very basis of your perspective is the backbone of hundreds of thousands of stories told to the authorities each and every day across this nation. And, it is the same hollow method of creating that self-fulfilling prophecy that leads to the physical and mental attrocities these women and children are subjected to each and every day.
It is the reason we hear so many "breaking-news" reports from cities coast-to-coast that surround the murder of a woman. It is a predictable and accelerating time-line that more often than not leads to one of these stories. (Whether it is covered by the media or not).
There is no valid reason to subject yourself or your children to such a situation. Ever. Thats not saying I am somehow putting you down for making the decision. The point is you made it and were able to get out in time. The whole idea is to Break the cycle before it breaks you!
I'm glad you were able to leave your situation too pari.
Quote from: Palehorse on March 25, 2008, 09:16:14 PM
It is the reason we hear so many "breaking-news" reports from cities coast-to-coast that surround the murder of a woman. It is a predictable and accelerating time-line that more often than not leads to one of these stories. (Whether it is covered by the media or not).
Like I said, concerning the kids, there is a backstory there that I prefer not to talk about. My daughter was hurt, ONCE. Never again. He was not even allowed to physically discipline, though he tried..........which is where a number of my physical abuses came in. I didn't allow him to touch my kids in anger. And to this day no one else is allowed to either. If they even look to be threatened, I will step up in between them. Had a chance to do that just yesterday. I don't know what I'm thinking when I do that, it just seems to be automatic. If I see my kids being threatened, step between and dare them. While my hand is on my cell phone ready to dial the police. Something that I never did in those years of marriage.
I'm lucky to be here today, and to have the other 5 girls to try to protect. I, too, was choked unconscious twice. And you don't know it until you manage to come to. I also had the opportunity to shoot him once and put him out of everyone's misery, but my mind was working. Had I pulled that trigger when the gun was pointed at him, I probably wouldn't be here today for that reason either. And I would be a grandmother without knowing my grandchildren.
What I think is that a lot of people can learn about abuse, and think they know why we who are abused do what we do, but unless you are the abused, you will never fully understand. There are people who are stronger than the abuse, who simply believe that they made a choice and have to see it through to the end. I will say that for most of my marriage to that man, my children didn't live with me and 4 months after they came home permanently, when I wouldn't give them up for adoption, he said he wanted a divorce. I chose my kids over my vows. I will choose my kids over anything. Oh yeah, he was not the father of my children. The only child I had with him, died about 8 hours after he was born. Tell's me a lot about the connection with him, it wasn't supposed to remain intact.
Until you walk a mile in someone else's shoes you don't what you would do. I think Pariann handled it the best way she could. She loves her children more than anything else in the world, like a Mom should. I wish my Mom would have stuck up for me when I was a child. She is a very weak woman. Kudos to you Pariann for getting out of that situation, and being able to live your life, for your children. :thumbsup:,
new rant
entitlement programs. i want a complete list of them, along with costs. then i want the cost of bush's tax cuts.
Quote from: awol on April 18, 2008, 06:57:42 PM
new rant
entitlement programs. i want a complete list of them, along with costs. then i want the cost of bush's tax cuts.
For?
Conversation and debate most likely. :wink:
Or to rant and rave about. :biggrin:
Probably. I doubt very seriously that he wants it to rave about.... :rolleyes:
He might, some people are complicated and a little hard to figure out. :wink:
Quote from: pariann on April 22, 2008, 10:07:49 AM
He might, some people are complicated and a little hard to figure out. :wink:
Good point. :yes:
he needs a secretary... :yes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 22, 2008, 02:32:01 PM
he needs a secretary... :yes:
i keep telling my boss that, but the staffing req's never make it past him.
Hire one on your own. I'm available. (I almost said "I'm free", but I would rather be paid. :wink:)
OOOOOOOOOOOKAYYYYYYYYYY.
hush
ok, getting back to business...
http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/president/17913984.html
john mclame apparently sucks the teet of an "entitlement program" even though he and his wife are together worth more than 100 mil.
some poster child for cleaning up the system huh?
"WASHINGTON - Republican presidential candidate John McCain has a Senate salary, a Navy pension, monthly Social Security income, book royalties, and a wealthy wife."
And your point is?
He's rich.
Aren't they all though?
I don't know....in my book...if you aren't me.....you are rich. LOL
Boy can I identify with that. :'(
Quote from: me on April 27, 2008, 10:14:43 AM
And your point is?
he shouldn't be taking social security.
Quote from: awol on April 29, 2008, 10:09:56 AM
he shouldn't be taking social security.
then NOBODY in Washington should be taking any...............there are more RICH democrats in DC than republican......but that is moot point.............Clintons mad over a $100 Milll last year..........how much is Ted making?.............your arguement is correct but, don't throw it as a McCain problem....
Heck at least he served in action and was a pow and wounded and deserves something from our Gov.........
Aren't conservatives "anti entitlement/social programs? Makes you wonder why he applied if he doesn't need it. And if Joe Schmoe were living on SS and he got a job, wouldn't his benefits be reduced? And doesn't her income/worth count as his, since they are married?
After about age 70 you can make any amount of money without a reduction in SS. McCain is not very conservative. Maybe spouse's income does not matter.
Quote from: Monroe on April 29, 2008, 03:25:03 PM
After about age 70 you can make any amount of money without a reduction in SS.
The Social Security Administration website makes no mention of that.
http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10069.html#howmuch (http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10069.html#howmuch)
I believe its after the age of 72 that you can earn any amount and, no, a spouse's income does not matter or figure into it in any way.
Quote from: Bo D on April 29, 2008, 03:31:49 PM
The Social Security Administration website makes no mention of that.
http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10069.html#howmuch (http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10069.html#howmuch)
I'm sorry I misread my papers I just received from SS about that and it says after full retirement age your benefits will not be reduced not matter how much is earned.
new rant:
picosecond - A picosecond is one millionth of one millionth of a second (0.000 000 000 001 seconds). See also times of other orders of magnitude.
1 picosecond – half-life of a bottom quark
1.66 picoseconds – switching time of the world's fastest transistor (604 GHz, as of 2005)
3.3 picoseconds (approximately) – time taken for light to move 1 millimeter
1 picosecond also seems to be the ammount of time between opening the door, and your five-year-old sitting in front of the television watching "go diego go".
cartoons were special when i was five. they weren't on 24 hours, i had to wait until saturday.
Not to mention the fact that they were real cartoons.
Saturday mornings were the BEST....even the commercials where great... :yes:
My favorites are finest ones by Max Fleischer. I find his best work far better than Disney's.
Lantz's and Harveytoons' characters were good with Harveytoons' artwork being better, but Hanna-Barbera brought about the real decline in the art of cartoons.
There have been few bright spots since.
Quote from: Y on May 22, 2008, 08:28:24 PM
My favorites are finest ones by Max Fleischer. I find his best work far better than Disney's.
Lantz's and Harveytoons' characters were good with Harveytoons' artwork being better, but Hanna-Barbera brought about the real decline in the art of cartoons.
There have been few bright spots since.
Isn't Yogey Bear Hanna-Barbera?
Yup! Their art/animation stinks.
Thats the whole idea of a cartoon. They aren't supposed to look real. :razz:
They certainly don't have to look like construction paper cut-outs stuck on the erasers of pencils either. :razz:
Quote from: Y on May 23, 2008, 12:56:47 AM
They certainly don't have to look like construction paper cut-outs stuck on the erasers of pencils either. :razz:
LMAO!!!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Horton Hears a Who - so cute!!
Do you know I hated Dr. Seuss until I grew up and read it to the kids. :biggrin:
Kinda off topic, but while I'm thinking of it...Kimmi what's an average class size in your school/grade?
That is tough to answer. Before going year round, the 4th grade team averaged between 25 - 29 a year. This year we went year round and we had as few as 22 to as many as 27. These numbers could go back up once all the lawsuits and rulings are final.
22 was Heaven to me!! Only 22 report cards, 22 pieces of writing to grade, 22 projects to grade, I could buy 2 dozen whatevers and have enough!!! Heaven!
Last night at my daughter's middle school orientation I found out the average class size is 33-37. That seems like a lot to me. Her elementary school class is in the low 20's, but obviously it's a smaller school. Her "class" will have a total of 400 students next fall. All of the 6th graders eat lunch at the same time. Can you imagine 400 students all trying to get lunch? Anyway, maybe because they rotate, that isn't considered a huge amount? They're trying a new program where the 6th graders are mostly kept segregated from the 7th and 8th graders. That way they take a babystep into the new school, get used to maneuvering it and are able to feel comfortable doing so and learning. Some of the classes will rotate none 3, 4 or all 7 classes. The kids that rotate all 7 will interact w/the older kids. The ones who don't rotate will only go to electives outside the classroom and the in betweens will rotate out to the "math college", "science college" and electives. They're setting up the middle school like a university. Each grade level gets to pick a university for their grade (PAC 10 - No Duke :'( ) and they will be that university until they graduate from middle school. They adopt the colors, mascot and that university will serve as a "big sister/brother" to that class and sponsor different events at the schools for them. It sounds cool and a good way to get them college focused w/out forcing it down their throat. Although, they do have college prep courses, even on this level.
Anyway, sorry for the hijack. I'm excited for her and her new adventure, but I still can't believe my baby is a middle schooler!
That sounds very much like how middle school is run here. The 6th graders are still walked to class. They are placed in a "team" and go through school with that team until high school. 33 - 34 in a class really should be okay since they are probably placed by ability. Good luck! Middle school is a weird and wild ride!
Quote from: kimmi on May 28, 2008, 09:01:26 AM
Middle school is a weird and wild ride!
I once asked a middle school principal the difference between a middle school and an insane asylum. He didn't know. Neither did I.
Puberty drives them mad. Then as a cruel joke, menopause does it again.
Quote from: Monroe on May 28, 2008, 09:40:34 PM
Quote from: kimmi on May 28, 2008, 09:01:26 AM
Middle school is a weird and wild ride!
I once asked a middle school principal the difference between a middle school and an insane asylum. He didn't know. Neither did I.
Puberty drives them mad. Then as a cruel joke, menopause does it again.
Now that is funny right there! :biggrin:
Quote from: Monroe on May 28, 2008, 09:40:34 PM
I once asked a middle school principal the difference between a middle school and an insane asylum. He didn't know. Neither did I.
Puberty drives them mad. Then as a cruel joke, menopause does it again.
:biggrin:
this whole "start seeing motercycles" campaign has me pissed. :rant:
not just because i can't drive a motercycle (and put the kids where?), but because bikers choose a vehicle with zero rollover protection, then dodge and weave through traffic because being small and quick and agile is what driving a motercycle is all about. but then blame ME when you get schmucked???
here's a thought: START SEEING BIG ASS TRUCKS!
it's ALOT EASIER TO SEE BIG ASS TRUCKS, and it's probably in YOUR best intrest, since if you do colide with one, he can HOSE OFF HIS GRILL and get on with his life, while you lie in traction for 7 months!
As a rider I take that campaign seriously. It never ceases to amaze me how people fail to see a brightly lit and loud motorcycle on a bright sunny day, and pull right out in front of you as if you aren't there. Even when you are observing the speed limit and all other traffic laws.
Why would a motorcycle require rollover protection when it is not designed to be rolled over?
As for the dodging and weaving, and general breaking of every traffic law on the books; I've seen those riders myself, and I too curse them. But they are no more prolific than the bad driving 4 wheelers and 18 wheelers out there. The only difference is when they make a mistake in judgment they'll pay a very heavy price for it. . . But then, that's what they get for driving like an asshole.
Now you know darned good and well if you drive a big assed truck, then the green people will publicly humiliate you over the fact that vehicle is not environmentally friendly. (I hate scraping those things off my friggin grill!) :biggrin:
it runs on e85 :biggrin:
Mine's diesel. 3/4 ton Chevy 2500 HD. An imposing presence on the road. My wife finally drove it a few times to work over the last week or so. She loves the hight, etc. She said, I love driving that truck. . . Until she had to fill it up! :biggrin: :biggrin:
ok, so i'm watching this episode of "flip that house" where a guy is doing a total renovation of a 100 year old house in los angeles. (i'm kind of a fan of the old construction) when he gets the inspector there, the inspector tells him "this house has a brick foundation, so it won't pass" and that there is "about a 90% chance this house will fall in on itself".
REALLY?!?!?
you're gonna stand there and say on national television that this house - which has stood for a hundred years in earthquake central - has a 90% chance of falling in on itself because it's built on brick?
code is code, and it's there for a reason, but what a stupid bastard.
I watched that one too. My questions is how was putting up ply wood to cover the brinks going to save the house? It looked pretty bogus to me!
Quote from: Palehorse on June 21, 2008, 04:18:16 PM
As a rider I take that campaign seriously. It never ceases to amaze me how people fail to see a brightly lit and loud motorcycle on a bright sunny day, and pull right out in front of you as if you aren't there. Even when you are observing the speed limit and all other traffic laws.
Why would a motorcycle require rollover protection when it is not designed to be rolled over?
As for the dodging and weaving, and general breaking of every traffic law on the books; I've seen those riders myself, and I too curse them. But they are no more prolific than the bad driving 4 wheelers and 18 wheelers out there. The only difference is when they make a mistake in judgment they'll pay a very heavy price for it. . . But then, that's what they get for driving like an asshole.
Now you know darned good and well if you drive a big assed truck, then the green people will publicly humiliate you over the fact that vehicle is not environmentally friendly. (I hate scraping those things off my friggin grill!) :biggrin:
I understand that. I am not a rider and never will be, because as a trauma nurse I have seen way to much. But, you can bet your life and I mean that... that I go out of my way to give these bikes all the room they want. I would never forgive myself ( even if it was there fault) if I hurt or killed anyone on a bike. Any one on a bike is as safe with me driving my car as a babe in mamma's arms. :yes:
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HABANERO PEPPERS ARE EVIL!!!
Quote from: awol on August 22, 2008, 05:52:34 PM
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HABANERO PEPPERS ARE EVIL!!!
I take it your mouth is on fire at the moment......
it was my mouth, eyes, nose...
pretty much everything.
Better follow up with ice cream.... :biggrin:
yeah, why do i get the feeling that ice cream is about as good an idea as any advice you have given?
Are you pickin' on me..... :spooked:
Seriously, dairy is the way to go. :yes:
:biggrin:
Hey awol how ya doin'? :biggrin:
i'm fine.
are we really such base creatures that we're gonna vote mclame into power for the chance at seeing some vice-presidential knockers? i'm starting to lose faith in society.
LOL, well I already know I'm not voting for him. If I had no specific reason for not voting before, I have one now. I truly don't think that a woman should be in the white house yet. And now especially not this one. Before I was worried about one that suffers PMS, now I'm worried about one that is still in the time frame to suffer post partum depression. Woman hormones can be KILLERS.
Quote from: awol on September 01, 2008, 09:55:13 AM
i'm fine.
are we really such base creatures that we're gonna vote mclame into power for the chance at seeing some vice-presidential knockers? i'm starting to lose faith in society.
THAT is probably the MOST raciest/sexist remark I have ever heard you say..............I was, First excited that McCains VP was a Conservative....that is what I wanted...second, I am impressed that despite her being a woman/mother, she was a bulldog against corruption, even against fellow republicans...I like her integrity that she has displayed throughout her tenure as a politician...
and for you to simply claim that all she is worth to this country is that she has a pair of knockers is pretty sexist and THAT is making me lose my faith in society... :no: it proves to me that all you care about is your party NOT the country...
Henry please don't try and give Awol all the credit in that statement because I have heard it several hundred times since the announcement. The term "cougar" continues to be used in the conversations about her.
pfft, cougar...what a term. Implies older women are prowling, when mostly it's the stupid young guys that can't get a woman their own age.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 01, 2008, 10:19:42 AM
THAT is probably the MOST raciest/sexist remark I have ever heard you say..............I was, First excited that McCains VP was a Conservative....that is what I wanted...second, I am impressed that despite her being a woman/mother, she was a bulldog against corruption, even against fellow republicans...I like her integrity that she has displayed throughout her tenure as a politician...
and for you to simply claim that all she is worth to this country is that she has a pair of knockers is pretty sexist and THAT is making me lose my faith in society... :no: it proves to me that all you care about is your party NOT the country...
actually, my comments are in response to this (and countless others out there on the forums)...
Quote from: Monroe on August 31, 2008, 11:00:34 PM
This makes it more interesting.
She smoked pot.
The VP debates will be worth watching. Maybe she'll wear something low cut. Organs to produce baby milk can be nice to see for some reason. I didn't make things that way. It's just an observation.
another...
QuoteOriginally posted by xxxx:
...Oh yeah,... she wears skirts versus pantsuits and isn't nearly has hard on the eyes as Hillary.
seems among many of her supposed supporters, she is little more than a joke:
QuoteOriginally posted by xxxxx:
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The Sheeple will love her,
I could see myself er.......eh......you know....loving her, but then again I am a self proclaimed pig who is anal retentive, explains much....no?
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Let's face it, he choose Palin, because she is a woman. This is a brilliant move by McCain, however shrewd it might have been. Can this election be saturated by identity politics any more? McCain might actually now have a chance.
Yep!Bet he is stocking up on cigars as we speak. ;)
they don't care who she is, or what she's about. just that she's a "milf". and they'll vote that side in the hopes that the paparazzi gets the goods. sad.
even you, hank, couldn't comment on her without mention of her looks...
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 18, 2007, 11:08:06 PM
Sarah Palin, a 43 year old,well-spoken..."rookie" governor of Alaska.....She's a pro-life Conservative Christian....she's cut the state budget...she's pro-life....believes in marriage between men and women, yet strongly supports gay rights....a card-carrying member of the NRA has a reputation for integrity....and has an approval rating in the 90 percent range....she's served as Chairman of Alaska's Oil and Gas Conservation Commission...mayor of Wasilla at the ageof 32....led her underdog team to the state basketball championship....competed in the Miss Alaska pageant....she's a nice lookin, mom of four, and married to a former dog sled racer
i know she is not presidential material, but maybe a good potential running mate for Fred Thompson or maybe Rudy....
remember....you heard it from ole Henry first.. ;)
go ahead. tell me that a "nice lookin" former beauty pageant contestant is what you consider qualifications for vp.
I didn't mention her rack............heck, I even said Michelle Obama is nice looking.........that is a compliment........not drooling over her boobs.......
and don't blame others..........you are the one who is judgmental of others and their political party.........had she been a democrat...you would not have made the comment...imo.
nice try at trying to make me the heavy in this one.........but it aint working.......she is a very brilliant woman, who happens to be very pretty....she would STILL be qualified even if she looked like margret thatcher
i've had it with radio alltogether.
"NEXT UP WE HAVE AC-DC, AEROSMITH, LED ZEPPLIN, AND ZZ TOP, AND KICKIN' IT ALL OFF..."WHAM" FROM 1985 WITH "RIO"".
really?
one of these things is not like the others....
Finally, after a week, I got my voice back today and went outside for a while to water the flowers and garden and its gone again...... :rant: WE NEED RAIN!!!!!! Dance PH dance....... :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:
Quote from: awol on September 02, 2008, 06:32:57 PM
i've had it with radio alltogether.
"NEXT UP WE HAVE AC-DC, AEROSMITH, LED ZEPPLIN, AND ZZ TOP, AND KICKIN' IT ALL OFF..."WHAM" FROM 1985 WITH "RIO"".
really?
one of these things is not like the others....
LOL...you've been watching too much sesame street. :wink:
Quote from: pariann on September 01, 2008, 10:17:39 AM
I truly don't think that a woman should be in the white house yet.
Why? :confused:
I'm interested in the answer to this, because I honestly can't think of one substantial reason why a woman wouldn't be able to perform the duties of president or veep. There is nothing about the female gender which precludes her from having the knowledge, skills or ability to perform those jobs.
I'm not defending either Clinton or Palin, but women in general.
To me, a statement like that, especially coming from a woman, is more sexist and inexcusable than a man saying Palin has nice ta tas
It's the way I feel. More than once I've said why. It's all about female hormones. I don't know which women run on emotions, and which ones can overcome that and remain objective. I know that I'm a good decision maker when it comes to the welfare of my home and family, but sometimes......hormones get in the way and I say and do things that are not objective and I regret them afterwards. Do that as someone running the country, and an apology and excuse that it's rag time isn't going to cut it.
Quote from: pariann on September 03, 2008, 12:26:41 PM
It's the way I feel. More than once I've said why. It's all about female hormones. I don't know which women run on emotions, and which ones can overcome that and remain objective. I know that I'm a good decision maker when it comes to the welfare of my home and family, but sometimes......hormones get in the way and I say and do things that are not objective and I regret them afterwards. Do that as someone running the country, and an apology and excuse that it's rag time isn't going to cut it.
wow. that's an amazingly honest statement. but i wonder what you think a woman leader would do that might be blamed on hormones? you'd actually start a war 'cause your friend was visiting? how many times do you think the president has to come up with some important decision "this instant"?
Exactly, I wonder how many snap decisions have been made based on testosterone? ;D
I don't know what kind of decisions might need to be made on the spur of the moment. I just know that women can piss someone off in an instant simply because she is going through pms and probably doesn't mean a word she's said OR realize she's offending others. I'm just saying...that is the reason I am not ready for a woman to be in the white house.
As for male hormones......men have been running this country since it's inception. We only have two genders to choose from. Male or female...the men are already there. What is to be done about it? And I'm sure that there have been many rash decisions based on the big bad testosterone. Might be why we are in Iraq.
This is nothing more than my opinion, and my opinion doesn't amount to a hill of beans when it comes right down to it.
:biggrin:
CC, if you want to sell yourself short by saying that you're less capable of making decisions or being responsible for your words or actions during your cycle, then knock your socks off, however to apply that "logic" to the entire gender IS sexist. I'm a female and it's my opinion that anyone who uses their cycle as a excuse for poor behavior is doing just that...finding an excuse to shirk responsibility. Of course it's just an opinion based on my own personal experiences.
What about the female prime minister's of other countries? Margaret Thatcher? Indira Gandhi? Golda Meir? Did they have someone step in for them once a month? What about women who've held positions of high importance in our government, our current secretary of state? I'd consider supreme court justice, senator, governor, mayor all very important positions of leadership. Are the states w/women in such positions falling apart at the seams?
No, of course they're not.
However, Bush has opened his trap and p^ssed off just about everyone.
Well, you had me right up until that last comment.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on September 04, 2008, 12:19:40 AM
CC, if you want to sell yourself short by saying that you're less capable of making decisions or being responsible for your words or actions during your cycle, then knock your socks off, however to apply that "logic" to the entire gender IS sexist. I'm a female and it's my opinion that anyone who uses their cycle as a excuse for poor behavior is doing just that...finding an excuse to shirk responsibility. Of course it's just an opinion based on my own personal experiences.
What about the female prime minister's of other countries? Margaret Thatcher? Indira Gandhi? Golda Meir? Did they have someone step in for them once a month? What about women who've held positions of high importance in our government, our current secretary of state? I'd consider supreme court justice, senator, governor, mayor all very important positions of leadership. Are the states w/women in such positions falling apart at the seams?
No, of course they're not.
However, Bush has opened his trap and p^ssed off just about everyone.
Then you're not paying attention.
I don't suffer from pms....but I have other hormonal situations, so I don't blame the bad crap on that. I do know that when I'm going through a hormonal situation, I am more apt to not be a pleasant person. . But I'd much rather tick off my kids, ex-husband, best friend than the leader of another country!
The other thing is, I don't live in those other countries....so I really don't know how they were run by those leaders. I do live in this country, and I am just not ready to trust a woman to run the whole country.
I'm not trying to give anyone any logic. I'm just expressing my opinion. (I'm also concerned about post-partum depression in the case of this woman who could possibly be VP. It doesn't necessarily appear in the first few weeks after a pregnancy ends.)
And it's my opinion that your opinion is very sexist because you're assuming that all women react to hormones and/or their cycle the same way that you do.
It doesn't matter that those women are from other countries because your premise is that a women in control would be biologically incapable of performing the duties of her job at least once a month, menopausal and/or postpartum. If we were talking about how they actually "ran" those countries then we MAY have basis to compare their political career to that of a female president here, but we're not. Besides that, I also mentioned women in this country who are leaders in the executive branch of the government, governors for their states and mayors for their towns, do you think that once a month all of that goes to hell in hand-basket? You don't think that those people make major decisions that can impact a lot of lives? The Senate is there to make sure that our government don't rush into any bad legislation or laws. We have 16 women in the Senate. What about Condoleezza Rice? She's Secretary of State and serves as a member of the President's "inner cabinet" of advisers and, by law, as a member of the National Security Council. That would be a precarious position for a woman to be in if hormones/cycle were a factor.
Seriously, I understand it's your opinion and you're entitled to your opinion, but that doesn't mean it's right.
my personal feeling for me is....if the person that wants my vote and respect... will display passion, integrity, and enthusiasism for basic conservative beliefs.....i really don't care what sex, race OR religion they are.....they will have my interest in them....
I think Margaret Thatcher is a REAL icon for conservatives.....Elizabeth Dole was a strong woman/leader.....
I didn't say it was once a month. There are menopausal women, women on hormone medications, I was even on hormones during a pregnancy. My opinion is I DON'T KNOW what women are affected by it, so I don't trust a woman at this point in time to run an entire country. So far those women in other positions do not affect the WHOLE country....women in leadership do not affect the country that I live in.
I'm not trying to offend anyone, I just feel this way. And my monthly cycle does not make me nuts, ever...I have other hormonal situations that crop up, ANY time of the month. So I'm not basing it on me......I'm basing it on being around women my whole life and seeing how they act and react. I don't much care for men either.....they all have freaking ego's and I wish I didn't have to make a choice of the lesser of two evils every time I vote.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on September 04, 2008, 03:19:13 AM
Then you're not paying attention.
Ok, I reread it and understand what you meant now.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 04, 2008, 09:48:13 AM
my personal feeling for me is....if the person that wants my vote and respect... will display passion, integrity, and enthusiasism for basic conservative beliefs.....i really don't care what sex, race OR religion they are.....they will have my interest in them....
I think Margaret Thatcher is a REAL icon for conservatives.....Elizabeth Dole was a strong woman/leader.....
how's that "abstinance" thing workin' for palin? :biggrin:
Quote from: awol on September 04, 2008, 01:33:55 PM
how's that "abstinance" thing workin' for palin? :biggrin:
it happens to the best of families... ;)..abstinence practice is STILL the best and surest way to avoid STD's and pregnancy.... :yes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 04, 2008, 01:45:25 PM
it happens to the best of families... ;)..abstinence practice is STILL the best and surest way to avoid STD's and pregnancy.... :yes:
abstinence is an easy thing for old folks to talk about who might be a bit too far removed from those teenaged hormones.
But I wonder if Bristol would find herself in this unenviable position if she'd had parents who took a more realistic approach to sex ed?
Of course, it seems that Gov. Palin herself may have put the cart before the horse in her younger days, so we may have a case here of where her politics dont match her personal views...I dont know.
I do know, being only a decade or so removed from my teenaged years, and having had the privelage of watching my younger siblings and their friends go through the same time, that the kids who behave most responsibly are the ones that get a real-life approach to sex at home.
Quote from: Gryphon on September 04, 2008, 03:09:01 PM
abstinence is an easy thing for old folks to talk about who might be a bit too far removed from those teenaged hormones.
But I wonder if Bristol would find herself in this unenviable position if she'd had parents who took a more realistic approach to sex ed?
Of course, it seems that Gov. Palin herself may have put the cart before the horse in her younger days, so we may have a case here of where her politics dont match her personal views...I dont know.
I do know, being only a decade or so removed from my teenaged years, and having had the privelage of watching my younger siblings and their friends go through the same time, that the kids who behave most responsibly are the ones that get a real-life approach to sex at home.
what makes you think that they was NOT taught safe sex?..........my, older kids know all about it......but, I STILL emphisize abstinenance..as a mater of fact....I demand it out of them.....it worked for my two oldest sons anyway.....I (about half joking and half serious) threatened to beat them from an inch of their lives IF they ever had sex with a girl, that they had no plans on marrying...My oldest son is 21 years old...and IS in a serious relationship with a girl, whom they have discussed marriage....and, I assuming they have, but they keep their intimate feelings to themselves....and I have no, nor will not ask....
a recent little quote from mccain seems to have gone largely unnoticed, yet seems too much like a freudian slip to me ...
He called on his party members to "take off our Republican hats and put on our American hats."
Doesn't it seem like he's inadvertently admitting that business as usual is the bullshit express?
soooo...to put it in other words...
"we know we haven't been acting in the best intrest of our country lately, but rest assured if you give us another chance, we'll do our best to act like americans. when it's important. really."
Quote from: awol on September 04, 2008, 01:33:55 PM
how's that "abstinance" thing workin' for palin? :biggrin:
Doesn't appear that it worked too well at all. :no: ;D
Quote from: awol on September 04, 2008, 08:16:31 PM
a recent little quote from mccain seems to have gone largely unnoticed, yet seems too much like a freudian slip to me ...
He called on his party members to "take off our Republican hats and put on our American hats."
Doesn't it seem like he's inadvertently admitting that business as usual is the bullshit express?
soooo...to put it in other words...
"we know we haven't been acting in the best intrest of our country lately, but rest assured if you give us another chance, we'll do our best to act like americans. when it's important. really."
What he meant was forget about parties and think about whats best for America not for one party or the other. He was, to put it bluntly, saying screw party politics if the Dems are right I'm going with them and if the Republicans are right I'll go with them. He is going to do whats best for the people NOT the party.
Quote from: me on September 04, 2008, 09:25:52 PM
What he meant was forget about parties and think about whats best for America not for one party or the other. He was, to put it bluntly, saying screw party politics if the Dems are right I'm going with them and if the Republicans are right I'll go with them. He is going to do whats best for the people NOT the party. just this once. for a change. since he's trying to get elected and all that.
fixed it for you.
Did anyone ever tell you you're impossible awol? :razz:
Quote from: me on September 04, 2008, 09:50:21 PM
Did anyone ever tell you you're impossible awol? :razz:
Quote from: awol on September 04, 2008, 08:16:31 PM
He called on his party members to "take off our Republican hats and put on our American hats."
How about your quote?
"Sure...you go first." ;D
Quote from: awol on September 04, 2008, 08:16:31 PM
a recent little quote from mccain seems to have gone largely unnoticed, yet seems too much like a freudian slip to me ...
He called on his party members to "take off our Republican hats and put on our American hats."
Doesn't it seem like he's inadvertently admitting that business as usual is the bullshit express?
soooo...to put it in other words...
"we know we haven't been acting in the best intrest of our country lately, but rest assured if you give us another chance, we'll do our best to act like americans. when it's important. really."
I think his point IS.........neither party is acting like they SHOULD....remember Pelosi and friens have a 19% approval rating...i think THEY need to take off THEIR hats and put on an AMERICAN hat TOO!!!...
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 05, 2008, 08:28:36 AM
I think his point IS.........neither party is acting like they SHOULD....remember Pelosi and friens have a 19% approval rating...i think THEY need to take off THEIR hats and put on an AMERICAN hat TOO!!!...
you do a good job of making it sound like congress is only dems. it is not.
http://www.mydd.com/story/2007/1/16/16545/9786
here are the only numbers i could find on pelosi. if you can find an approval rating for her that is 19%, i'll look at it. but till then, i hold that her approval is 50% or more.
Quote from: me on September 04, 2008, 09:50:21 PM
Did anyone ever tell you you're impossible awol? :razz:
Turnabout is fair play! What's good for the goose is good for the gander! Payback is heck! etc. etc.
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Quote from: awol on September 05, 2008, 09:32:31 AM
you do a good job of making it sound like congress is only dems. it is not.
http://www.mydd.com/story/2007/1/16/16545/9786
here are the only numbers i could find on pelosi. if you can find an approval rating for her that is 19%, i'll look at it. but till then, i hold that her approval is 50% or more.
naw, i grant you...it is congress...both dems and repubs....suck...it was pelosi, who said she was going to fix washington when she became leader....it got worse when she did...that's what I'm sayin.....
again..i am down on many of the repubs as well as most of the dems..we need McCain/Palin to clean up the corrupt and mis use of tax dollars.....
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 05, 2008, 10:20:08 AM
naw, i grant you...it is congress...both dems and repubs....suck...it was pelosi, who said she was going to fix washington when she became leader....it got worse when she did...that's what I'm sayin.....
again..i am down on many of the repubs as well as most of the dems..we need McCain/Palin to clean up the corrupt and mis use of tax dollars.....
I hear ya, Henry! :yes:
But how is the choice of Palin going to convince anyone (except blind loyalists) that corruption will end (Troopergate) and misuse of tax dollars will end. (Bridge to Nowhere, Wasilla $20 million in debt)?
Quote from: Bo D on September 05, 2008, 10:25:48 AM
I hear ya, Henry! :yes:
But how is the choice of Palin going to convince anyone (except blind loyalists) that corruption will end (Troopergate) and misuse of tax dollars will end. (Bridge to Nowhere, Wasilla $20 million in debt)?
troopergate is STILL just a wild ass story...but, from what i have read, the guy tazed his 12 year old stepson.....threatened the life of sarah's father as well as her self...he was caught drunk driving in his AST cruiser...it was her prerogative to fire that guy, part of the perks of being Gov.....bridge to nowhere is STILL pretty much one-sided on that story...I have never heard it explained yet, other than the tabloid versions....and for supposedly a $20 mill debt....she had a popularity rating at 85% when she left office...so, I need to hear more about that....
She did blow the whistle on the Alaska Gas and Oil Regulatory Commissioner...who was a republican, btw...
she worked with the FBI and had four legislators sent to prison..
she defeated the well known corrupt Governor Murkowski....
sold the very expensive private jet used by Murkowski on ebay...
to just name a few off of the cuff
McCain is a champion at NOT attaching earmarks to bills....and is set on making that mandatory..for everyone...
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 05, 2008, 11:03:03 AM
troopergate is STILL just a wild ass story...but, from what i have read, the guy tazed his 12 year old stepson.....threatened the life of sarah's father as well as her self...he was caught drunk driving in his AST cruiser...it was her prerogative to fire that guy, part of the perks of being Gov.....bridge to nowhere is STILL pretty much one-sided on that story...I have never heard it explained yet, other than the tabloid versions....and for supposedly a $20 mill debt....she had a popularity rating at 85% when she left office...so, I need to hear more about that....
She did blow the whistle on the Alaska Gas and Oil Regulatory Commissioner...who was a republican, btw...
she worked with the FBI and had four legislators sent to prison..
she defeated the well known corrupt Governor Murkowski....
sold the very expensive private jet used by Murkowski on ebay...
to just name a few off of the cuff
McCain is a champion at NOT attaching earmarks to bills....and is set on making that mandatory..for everyone...
You dismiss the facts as "a wild ass story" and call them "tabloid versions" yet all you present is heresay and headlines for the National Enquirer.
You're smarter than that Henry. Wake up! Do the research!
Quote from: Bo D on September 05, 2008, 11:15:01 AM
You dismiss the facts as "a wild ass story" and call them "tabloid versions" yet all you present is heresay and headlines for the National Enquirer.
You're smarter than that Henry. Wake up! Do the research!
your right, unfortunatly...there are no good reliable resorces imo...at this time.....the info i got was from a pro palin supporter...I am doing some research on this whole thing..and I think, I am right, based upon what I have read so far...BUT...i know we need more concrete proof...
Quote from: Bo D on September 05, 2008, 09:45:49 AM
Turnabout is fair play! What's good for the goose is good for the gander! Payback is heck! etc. etc.
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
But I'll admit I'm hard headed and impossible..... :biggrin: :razz:
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Quote from: me on September 09, 2008, 05:23:54 PM
You sure do smile a lot.... ;D
I have nice teeth and I am happy. :biggrin: ;D :smile:
Quote from: American_Woman on September 12, 2008, 03:27:40 PM
I have nice teeth and I am happy. :biggrin: ;D :smile:
I love it!!!!!!
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Quote from: Bo D on September 12, 2008, 03:50:05 PM
I love it!!!!!!
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Me too. :biggrin:
Last night my little girl woke up with both eyes swelled shut. Yesterday evening she looked as if there were a few mosquite bites on her eye lids, so I thought that I would take her to the Doc today, which I did. She woke me up about 4 am with both eyes almost swelled shut.
He told me that it may be "orbital cellulitis" which is 99 precent deadly. He scared me to death. He told me that since I was an R.N. that he was going to give her oral medications and send her home. I would keep a close watch on her and if nothing changed by 10 am tomorrow I was to go to the hospital and he would have her a room. Needless to say I cried while she slept ( once we got home.) He said he wouldn't give a definite dx because he had never seen it in both eyes.
Anyway she slept for about 4 hours and everytime I looked at her... her eyelid swelling had gone down and by the time she woke up it was gone.
I am so mad at him for scaring me like that. Next time I see him I am going to tell him that he had me crying and on my knees for hours. Not fair.
I have had that happen in college. I found out it was a weird food allergy to instant coffee believe it or not. The top half of my face swelled - eyes, ears (weird feeling) and nose - not inside, but outside. They had to give me a few shots of Benedryl and adrenalin and within the next 24 hours it was completely gone. So weird.
I hope they figure out what caused that.
My granddaughter came home from school a couple of weeks ago and her face was swollen and when she got up next morning she was swollen so bad she could barely open her eyes. My daughter took her to the Dr. and he said it looked like poison ivy and gave her a shot and some pills. When she went back to school she found out that there were other kids who had the same thing happen. The school traced the problem back to someone who was burning out a fence row close to the school and there was poison ivy along it.
Thanks guys.. I still think that it was nothing but mosquite bites and he had no right to scare me to death.
Quote from: Isabelle on September 13, 2008, 09:48:11 AM
Thanks guys.. I still think that it was nothing but mosquite bites and he had no right to scare me to death.
I'd say he has a sick sense of humor. What he did was inexcusable IMO.
i'm sick too butcha don't hear me bitchin'!
I think I will cause a fuss about being sick. I knew I was getting worse when I had my little girl at the doctors. I was breathing very badly, but I was far more worried about her.
Last night I left her with my son for the night and went to ER My. O2 sat was 89. Most people have 99 to 100. I was in kinda bad shape.They all jumped on me and made me be able to breath better. I know I should have stayed but I had to be home for Kayla. I don't want her to know I am sick. I am basically all all she has.
One day soon she will have to know but she has had some trauma in her life and I am putting that time off..
Me, I agree I think that doctor did a mean thing.
Yes he did and I think he should apologize to you.
I think so too, but every time I say anything to him he just says I aman Rn (I worked with him) and that I should be used to it. Ok I was an RN but I am not taking my child to him as an RN but I am taking my little girl to a doctor.
Quote from: Isabelle on September 13, 2008, 08:02:33 PM
I think so too, but every time I say anything to him he just says I aman Rn (I worked with him) and that I should be used to it. Ok I was an RN but I am not taking my child to him as an RN but I am taking my little girl to a doctor.
I guess he don't understand being a scared mother but thats still no excuse for what he did.
very true.. but she is fine....
Oh hell, I thought this was awol's rants. If I had known I could bitch in here..I would have done it a long time ago.....or did I? I've been reading old posts of mine on this forum that I don't even remember making. LOL
file this under opportunities missed...
obama mccain debate:
QuoteMCCAIN: And I want to tell you that now that we will succeed and our troops will come home, and not in defeat, that we will see a stable ally in the region and a fledgling democracy.
The consequences of defeat would have been increased Iranian influence. It would have been increase in sectarian violence. It would have been a wider war, which the United States of America might have had to come back.
So there was a lot at stake there. And thanks to this great general, David Petraeus, and the troops who serve under him, they have succeeded. And we are winning in Iraq, and we will come home. And we will come home as we have when we have won other wars and not in defeat.
(emphasis added)
after this, obama went on about how we shouldn't have been in iraq in the first place...how he voted against it even when it wasn't popular...yadda yadda yadda.
what he SHOULD have said (in my opinion) is:
"I am ready to bring our troops home NOW, and honor thier sacrifices over the last six years in a conflict that has had NO defined victory parameters. The sectarian violence will continue in Iraq whether we are there in the middle of it, or not. Our efforts will be better spent increasing security at home, rather than providing a target abroad."
I agree. I remember thinking during the debates that Obama missed several opportunities to put McCain away for good - and I didn't think Obama's continued use of "I agree" was a good debate tactic, but maybe he was trying to appeal to that side of the aisle.
I've read rumors that except for the candidates specific words, practically everything else was scripted and subject to contractual agreement between the parties beforehand.
Should that be true, one might discern why there wasn't a more determined debate with an easily proclaimed victor.
thanks for the vote of confidence, Y.
that said, new issue...
QuotePresident Osama? U.S. election ballot misspells Obama's name
A typographical error on a New York county absentee ballot gives voters there the option of electing "Barack Osama" as president in the upcoming U.S. election, instead of Barack Obama.
The incorrect ballots, issued to hundreds of voters in Rensselaer County, were first spotted by the Times Union of Albany newspaper.
Local election officials said they regret the mistake. The one-letter typo evokes the name of Osama bin Laden, the notorious al-Qaeda leader said to be the mastermind behind the Sept. 11 attacks on the United States.
"It's human error, it's very unfortunate," commissioners Edward McDonough told the Associated Press in a telephone interview. "It's an embarrassment to our office, obviously."
"We wish we could turn back the clock, but we can't."
When the elections office discovered the mistake, officials shredded the remaining "Osama" ballots and mailed correct versions to all absentee voters, who vote by mail rather than voting in person at a polling station.
Voters who received both versions will be allowed to send in either one and have it counted, McDonough said.
Obama spokesman Blake Zeff said the campaign is "glad officials are working to correct this error and we assume it won't happen again."
http://www.cbc.ca/world/usvotes/story/2008/10/10/osama-obama.html
how much did the repub's pay for this "typographical error"?
(where is the "b" and where is the "s" on any keyboard)
LOL. well you do use the same hand to type both letters. I do anyway. But as I was reading it, I was thinking the same thing, the typesetter may have been trying to send a subliminal message, and it wasn't a typo after all.
rant at the dems:
you are banging your head against a wall with the race issue and comparing qualifications and record. i understand that you feel that Obama must be twice as good to seem half as good compared to McCain, but that's not the case. the reality is that Obama will never say "lower taxes for everyone! *not just the 95% of us...", or "no more abortions, ever!", or "guns for everyone!" or "war with everyone who opposes us doing whatever we feel like doing!". these are the ONLY qualifications that the neocons need or want in a candidate, and they don't care if he's less qualified, less intelligent, less capable, or even if he has one foot in the grave.
awol are you the one and same I use to see on the hey martha Anderson forum? Hello Awol :biggrin:
that's me. the one and only. :razz:
I always liked reading your posts..I know I haven't seen you on there for a while..well I am suspended until the middle of next month! LOL :razz:
Quote from: awol on October 26, 2008, 08:15:31 PM
that's me. the one and only. :razz:
Quote from: pariann on September 22, 2008, 09:17:40 AM
Oh hell, I thought this was awol's rants. If I had known I could bitch in here..I would have done it a long time ago.....or did I? I've been reading old posts of mine on this forum that I don't even remember making. LOL
No sh!t chick. I couldn't have my own area cause the admin here would all agree my ranting area wouldn't help. LOL! They'd agree to send me to get meds! That stupid lee thall and some others need a good thwacking! >:(
No kidding!!! I find it amusing that so many that I think are overly cracked, like to wink and smile at me, like I'm in on their joke or something. :spooked:
this was posted by a republican on another forum about the election:
QuoteThis is like getting castrated. It hurts now because I know we just lost potential but I guess in the future we will be a little more comfortable. Kinda like the smoking ban too. I am more comfortable as a non smoker in the bars but I know it has come at the expense of others.
Socialism will keep us comfortable but it's too bad for those of us that could have achieved so much more. They could have made this country great again. I suppose though, the average man only lost where uncommon people could have guided this country but now we will all be taken care of no matter how much we under perform. Maybe the right to happiness will be better then the right to pursue happiness. I wonder what government job I will get.
So Republicans, even though we won't be shooting for the stars anymore, maybe we'll all get lucky enough to have Saturday Night Live on every night to keep us numb to reality. Oh, oh, and if that doesn't do it, hopefully we'll be getting some soma as well. It certainly will be A Brave New World.
blaming others for a personal lack of achievement - i guess we all become what we despise.
under the heading "whatever happened to":
polling has indicated for some time that bush and co. are a disgrace that we'd sooner forget. by and large.
but polling has been deemed an inacurate measure by the right. i suspect as the data indicates failure.
so where are all the republicans shouting "the only poll that matters is nov. 4th"?
keep in mind that the "democratic congress with the lowest approval rating in history" as you like to point out were RE-ELECTED WITH SOME NEW FRIENDS TO PLAY WITH.
Quote from: awol on November 06, 2008, 10:05:32 PM
under the heading "whatever happened to":
polling has indicated for some time that bush and co. are a disgrace that we'd sooner forget. by and large.
but polling has been deemed an inacurate measure by the right. i suspect as the data indicates failure.
so where are all the republicans shouting "the only poll that matters is nov. 4th"?
keep in mind that the "democratic congress with the lowest approval rating in history" as you like to point out were RE-ELECTED WITH SOME NEW FRIENDS TO PLAY WITH.
And the stock market made the largest post election drop in history which don't show much confidence in the new administration, especially congress if ya ask me.
gee, i thought our elected officials weren't responsible for the stock market fluctuations...at least that's all i've heard FROM YOU for the last 8 years.
we'll see what happens when obama ACTUALLY TAKES OFFICE.
IIRC the stock market has done quite well for most of the last 8yrs.
Quote from: me on November 07, 2008, 05:43:16 PM
IIRC the stock market has done quite well for most of the last 8yrs.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!
THANKS! i needed that!
you think you're gonna rewrite history?!?!
kinda following along awol's idea of bringing posts that encountered elsewhere to rant about here's a few:
Quote from: poster1When the supreme court gave Bush the win last time,people said it was GODS will. Maybe GOD decided to make some changes.
Quote from: poster2<quoted text>He did indeed! And, I believe the election of Obama as president God's perfect Will. God uses certain men with particular views, beliefs and persuasions to fulfill the prophecies of His Word. And, Obama is simply another chess piece in His plan to bring about the end of time as we know it. Mark my words!
Quote from: poster3<quoted text>
I don't think God did it, I think man brought on the end of time by the road they choose to travel.
God's words were a warning to all mankind. Man has turned away from God and will create his own demise.
So, now that Obama has been elected the prophecy in Revelations is coming to pass. Seriously (and sadly), I'm reading this all over the place particularly in places influenced by the bible belt.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on November 10, 2008, 09:11:53 AM
kinda following along awol's idea of bringing posts that encountered elsewhere to rant about here's a few:
So, now that Obama has been elected the prophecy in Revelations is coming to pass. Seriously (and sadly), I'm reading this all over the place particularly in places influenced by the bible belt.
We can only hope they're wrong.
There's not a doubt in my mind that they're wrong and crazy as an added bonus. All that I hope for is that they're sane enough to feel really ridiculous when the 4 (or 8 years) are over and the world is still standing.
I am truly hoping that you guy's are the ones saying "I told you so" and not us.
Are you seriously entertaining that idea there's a prophecy being fullfilled? Perhaps we should ask the easter bunny and Santa to help us.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on November 10, 2008, 12:21:57 PM
Are you seriously entertaining that idea there's a prophecy being fullfilled? Perhaps we should ask the easter bunny and Santa to help us.
a day WILL come, when life as you/we know it will no-longer exist....It may be 100-years from now....or it may be this afternoon.....based upon scripture from the Bible....many Bible prophecies has been fulfilled....just as they say they would....to believers, it is something that CANNNOT be ignored or simply dismissed...
I also, know, God ordains all rulers/leaders who take political and/or religious offices....and before I get jumped on, I am NOT saying Obama is evil or a saint....but, he is the leader, who God has chosen to rule.....THAT is my belief....backed up by scripture....which I hold in high regards...
No but I'm seriously entertaining the idea that we're all going to see our tax's increase, the military go downhill, government handouts run rampant, political correctness get even worse, and the size of government increase to the point of ridiculous. That's the short version.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on November 10, 2008, 12:21:57 PM
Are you seriously entertaining that idea there's a prophecy being fullfilled? Perhaps we should ask the easter bunny and Santa to help us.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 10, 2008, 01:06:11 PM
a day WILL come, when life as you/we know it will no-longer exist....It may be 100-years from now....or it may be this afternoon.....based upon scripture from the Bible....many Bible prophecies has been fulfilled....just as they say they would....to believers, it is something that CANNNOT be ignored or simply dismissed...
I also, know, God ordains all rulers/leaders who take political and/or religious offices....and before I get jumped on, I am NOT saying Obama is evil or a saint....but, he is the leader, who God has chosen to rule.....THAT is my belief....backed up by scripture....which I hold in high regards...
:end:
Of course the earth will someday come to an end, but not because of a biblical prophecy.
Quote from: me on November 10, 2008, 01:11:21 PM
No but I'm seriously entertaining the idea that we're all going to see our tax's increase, the military go downhill, government handouts run rampant, political correctness get even worse, and the size of government increase to the point of ridiculous. That's the short version.
You could have made it even shorter than that by saying, "I don't care who it is, if anyone other than a Republican wins, I'm going to expect the worst". Which is kinda funny (and sad) considering the past 8 years.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 10, 2008, 01:06:11 PM
a day WILL come, when life as you/we know it will no-longer exist....It may be 100-years from now....or it may be this afternoon.....based upon scripture from the Bible....many Bible prophecies has been fulfilled....just as they say they would....to believers, it is something that CANNNOT be ignored or simply dismissed...
I also, know, God ordains all rulers/leaders who take political and/or religious offices....and before I get jumped on, I am NOT saying Obama is evil or a saint....but, he is the leader, who God has chosen to rule.....THAT is my belief....backed up by scripture....which I hold in high regards...
Narrator: Chicken Little was in the woods one day when an acorn fell on her head. It scared her so much she trembled all over. She shook so hard, half her feathers fell out.
Chicken Little: "Help! Help! The sky is falling! I have to go tell the king!"
Narrator: So she ran in great fright to tell the king. Along the way she met Henny Penny.
Henny Penny: "Where are you going, Chicken Little?"
Chicken Little: "Oh, help! The sky is falling!"
Henny Penny: "How do you know?"
Chicken Little: "I saw it with my own eyes, and heard it with my own ears, and part of it fell on my head!"
Henny Penny: "This is terrible, just terrible! We'd better hurry up."
Narrator: So they both ran away as fast as they could. Soon they met Ducky Lucky.
Ducky Lucky: "Where are you going, Chicken Little and Henny Penny?"
Chicken Little & Henny Penny: "The sky is falling! The sky is falling! We're going to tell the king!"
Ducky Lucky: "How do you know?"
Chicken Little: "I saw it with my own eyes, and heard it with my own ears, and part of it fell on my head."
Ducky Lucky: "Oh dear, oh dear! We'd better run!"
Narrator: So they all ran down the road as fast as they could. Soon they met Goosey Loosey walking down the roadside.
Goosey Loosey "Hello there. Where are you all going in such a hurry?"
Chicken Little: "We're running for our lives!"
Henny Penny: "The sky is falling!"
Ducky Lucky: "And we're running to tell the king!"
Goosey Loosey: "How do you know the sky is falling?"
Chicken Little: "I saw it with my own eyes, and heard it with my own ears, and part of it fell on my head!"
Goosey Loosey: "Goodness! Then I'd better run with you."
Narrator: And they all ran in great fright across a field. Before long they met Turkey Lurkey strutting back and forth..
Turkey Lurkey: "Hello there, Chicken Little, Henny Penny, Ducky Lucky, and Goosey Loosey. Where are you all going in such a hurry?"
Chicken Little: "Help! Help!"
Henny Penny: "We're running for our lives!"
Ducky Lucky: "The sky is falling!"
Goosey Loosey: "And we're running to tell the king!"
Turkey Lurkey: "How do you know the sky is falling?"
Chicken Little: "I saw it with my own eyes, and heard it with my own ears, and part of it fell on my head!"
Turkey Lurkey: "Oh dear! I always suspected the sky would fall someday. I'd better run with you."
Narrator: So they ran with all their might, until they met Foxy Loxy.
Foxy Loxy: "Well, well. Where are you rushing on such a fine day?"
Chicken Little, Henny Penny, Ducky Lucky, Goosey Loosey, Turkey Lurkey (together) "Help! Help!" It's not a fine day at all. The sky is falling, and we're running to tell the king!"
Foxy Loxy: "How do you know the sky is falling?"
Chicken Little: "I saw it with my own eyes, and heard it with my own ears, and part of it fell on my head!"
Foxy Loxy: "I see. Well then, follow me, and I'll show you the way to the king."
Narrator: So Foxy Loxy led Chicken Little, Henny Penny, Ducky Lucky, Goosey Loosey, and Turkey Lurkey across a field and through the woods. He led them straight to his den, and they never saw the king to tell him that the sky is falling.
how orignal awol....did you cut-n-paste from HM?... :rolleyes:
The big difference is, I'm not going around shouting the end is near....I'm just telling you what is said in the Bible...a book, that I find amazing, and has many, many wonderful TRUTHS in it.....
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on November 10, 2008, 02:48:03 PM
You could have made it even shorter than that by saying, "I don't care who it is, if anyone other than a Republican wins, I'm going to expect the worst". Which is kinda funny (and sad) considering the past 8 years.
You mean when tax's went down, government got smaller, handouts were getting harder to get, something was actually done about the terrorist attacks on the US, business was expanding, the jobless rate was less than it had been in years? You mean that 8yrs?
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on November 10, 2008, 02:46:21 PM
:end:
Of course the earth will someday come to an end, but not because of a biblical prophecy.
in your opinion.. ;) and nothing else.
There is also Nostradamus who seems to pretty well hit a lot of things pretty close.
Quote from: me on November 10, 2008, 04:17:34 PM
You mean when tax's went down, government got smaller, handouts were getting harder to get, something was actually done about the terrorist attacks on the US, business was expanding, the jobless rate was less than it had been in years? You mean that 8yrs?
No, I was living in
this country.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on November 10, 2008, 04:38:20 PM
No, I was living in this country.
High on (http://www.rrsd.mb.ca/douglas/jcline/koolaid.jpg) no doubt.... :razz:
Quote from: me on November 10, 2008, 04:17:34 PM
You mean when tax's went down, government got smaller, handouts were getting harder to get, something was actually done about the terrorist attacks on the US, business was expanding, the jobless rate was less than it had been in years? You mean that 8yrs?
"government got smaller" ?
What planet are you from? Or have you just been drinking some of your own kool aid for way too long?
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=95704973 (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=95704973)
"Know this: The greatest contemporary enemy of the Era of Small Government was George W. Bush.
It was Bush who insinuated the federal government into education on a mass scale; before Bush, schools were for states and municipalities. It was Bush who created a new and whopping homeland security agency after Sept. 11. It was Bush who took a balanced budget and turned it into Reaganesque deficits. And it was Bush who called off the regulatory dogs in a pioneer of Wall Street buccaneering that at least contributed to the mess we're in now."
Quote from: me on November 10, 2008, 04:58:37 PM
High on no doubt.... :razz:
Not high enough to have the same fantasy experience you did. Perhaps I shoulda tried some of yours. :razz:
Here's more. :rolleyes:
Quote from: poster4After having thoughts that Obama might be the antichrist (before I even knew anyone else even thought this), I did some research on my own. The following is what I have found that suggests that Obama fits the puzzle. The beast, or antichrist, "was given a mouth speaking great things" (Rev 13:5). The beast will have seven heads that are symbolized as seven hills (Rev 17:9). People have thought that was Rome, since Rome sits on seven hills. However, another city has seven hills--Honolulu, where Obama was born. It's true, but don't take my word for it--look it up yourself. Furthermore, the beast will speak of hope and peace. I believe these three factors fit Obama.
Furthermore, the beast will suffer a deadly wound to the head, but will heal. He will also be given authority for 42 months. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens ...
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 10, 2008, 04:24:37 PM
in your opinion.. ;) and nothing else.
Let's see:
Using the earth's resources faster than nature can replenish them leading to the eventual destruction of mankind
Or
The sun eventually burning out leading to the death of all things living which rely on sunlight
Or
the Rapture and/or the Millennium
Opinion, yes, but life experience tells me that either of the 1st two are much more likely and NONE of the above has a thing to do with Obama.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on November 10, 2008, 10:17:17 PM
Let's see:
Using the earth's resources faster than nature can replenish them leading to the eventual destruction of mankind
Or
The sun eventually burning out leading to the death of all things living which rely on sunlight
Or
the Rapture and/or the Millennium
Opinion, yes, but life experience tells me that either of the 1st two are much more likely and NONE of the above has a thing to do with Obama.
oh yeah, it is all Geroge Bush's fault....I forgot.
Every religion thinks IT is THE right one, the chosen one, the only one to follow. Which is wrong? (Hint: the word "ALL" comes to mind).
Once again we are forced to deal with the fallout that is the direct result of centuries of "conditioning" brought about by humankind's fervor for spiritual guidance disguised ; religion.
End of times, end days? Perhaps, but not because of any of humankind's God like creations.
Too many zealots have been claiming the end days for centuries now, based upon that book that humanity assembled, edited, and has been using to control the masses for centuries.
What'cha gonna do? Get over it, accept the fact that the human God is a tool, and start looking inwardly for the true guidance that has been there all along folks. This president, these days, these times are not the end of it all. Tomorrow the sun will rise again, and zealots world wide will join the ranks of Chicago Cubs fans around the world in saying, "maybe next year". :rolleyes:
first of all, I am not an alarmist...saying the 'sky is falling'...but, it is my belief, that a day WILL come...according to scripture...when this "human God" will cease our way of life, the way we know it.......for those of you familiar with scripture, know what I am talking about....for those of you who don't...blow the dust off of your Bible and take a read....if anything it is a pretty good read....PH, I respectfully disagree with you, from the bottom of my heart.
btw...the Cubs WILL win it all ...... NEXT YEAR!!.. :yes: maybe :confused:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 11, 2008, 09:22:03 AM
oh yeah, it is all Geroge Bush's fault....I forgot.
Well, he wasn't a friend to the environment, but I never implied it was all his fault. I was simply illustrating that I think all of the babbling BS about Obama being the antichrist or fullfilling some biblical end of the world biblical prophecy is nonsense.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on November 11, 2008, 10:55:33 AM
Well, he wasn't a friend to the environment, but I never implied it was all his fault. I was simply illustrating that I think all of the babbling BS about Obama being the antichrist or fullfilling some biblical end of the world biblical prophecy is nonsense.
I have NEVER implied that Obama is the antichrist nor am I suggesting that he is going to be the cause of the end of the world................I do think, EVERY leader we have had, is there because God wanted that particular person there...to fullfill His Will....be THAT what it may...Biblical Prophecy will be fullfilled...
and, there ARE folks out there who do blame the destruction of this earth because George Bush was against kyoto......
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 11, 2008, 11:05:50 AM
I have NEVER implied that Obama is the antichrist nor am I suggesting that he is going to be the cause of the end of the world................I do think, EVERY leader we have had, is there because God wanted that particular person there...to fullfill His Will....be THAT what it may...Biblical Prophecy will be fullfilled...
and, there ARE folks out there who do blame the destruction of this earth because George Bush was against kyoto......
It's common sense, you take care of the earth IF you want the human race to survive. Not a lot of thought processes required to figure that one out. Bush wasn't "for" very many environmental initiatives. Not just the Kyoto Protocol. There is some truth to Bush not making conservation and protection of the earth a priority.
I didn't say that you did say Obama was the antichrist :biggrin: my original rant was about the idiots trying to make a case for it. ;D There's NO truth to that.
To everything there is a season, and I strongly suspect that the earth is not immune to this line of thinking. The problem is religion attempts to lay claim to it happening, and it thus far has not. The only problem is that when it does, none of them (or anyone else for that matter) will be around to do the victory dance! :biggrin:
The creator will not end the earth and our lives. We will. Eventually. And when we get to what is next there are going to be legions of folks pretty pissed off over the fact they lead their lives in this place based upon a false and human-constructed premise that was very flawed from the get-go; thusly waisting the time they had here working for somethign that they had all along - their spiritual existance.
It isn't their fault really. That blame lays squarely at the feet of those individuals that have undertaken the power and wealth building initiative that religion was created for int he first place. It will suck to be them on the other side. Their spirits have not evolved enough to allow them to move forward.
QuoteTheir spirits have not evolved enough to allow them to move forward.
That is the whole purpose of life. To evolve. To get to that point where your spirit lives it's eternal life in peace.
(I'm a believer in reincarnation.)
Quote from: pariann on November 11, 2008, 11:32:20 PM
That is the whole purpose of life. To evolve. To get to that point where your spirit lives it's eternal life in peace.
Exactly my point. These zealots want to threaten our eternal spirit with eternal damnation lest you toe the line and do as they say; supporting their greed for personal power and wealth within the physical world. Hence, their spirits are not evolving properly or as planned and they are destined to repeat the physical stage of life within a lower life form, (for those believing in such), or repeating yet again their life plan blueprint, (for those who believe in that).
Quote from: Palehorse on November 12, 2008, 03:13:33 PM
Exactly my point. These zealots want to threaten our eternal spirit with eternal damnation lest you toe the line and do as they say; supporting their greed for personal power and wealth within the physical world. Hence, their spirits are not evolving properly or as planned and they are destined to repeat the physical stage of life within a lower life form, (for those believing in such), or repeating yet again their life plan blueprint, (for those who believe in that).
and just where did you get these set of rules from PH?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 12, 2008, 03:38:24 PM
and just where did you get these set of rules from PH?
Partially from various middle eastern beliefs, and still others from people like Sylvia Browne. You really ought to read her books Henry. At least read "Life on the Other Side".
Sure, I cherry pick sometimes from various beliefs; but when it is right you can feel it. Or at least I can. :wink: :biggrin:
EDIT: And before you say it, your "feeling it is right" is being brought on by centuries of preconditioning. (AKA Brainwashing) :wink: :biggrin:
Quote from: Palehorse on November 12, 2008, 03:41:27 PM
Partially from various middle eastern beliefs, and still others from people like Sylvia Browne. You really ought to read her books Henry. At least read "Life on the Other Side".
Sure, I cherry pick sometimes from various beliefs; but when it is right you can feel it. Or at least I can. :wink: :biggrin:
EDIT: And before you say it, your "feeling it is right" is being brought on by centuries of preconditioning. (AKA Brainwashing) :wink: :biggrin:
I have watched Sylvia Browne on TV and have found her interesting....but, after googling her, her ability to predict the future is comical....
PH, all the information you have collected to form your opinions have been written by men....and human-constructed premises...and, people like Sylvia Browne are making money, selling their human contructed ideas for a great deal of cash....and yet you find a great deal of pleasure in ripping apart Christian beliefs? :confused:
btw, I do find Sylvia Browne's topic of the "other side" very, very interesting...I have NOT read her book, but, someday, I may...
From Dan Foster's signature line:
Quote"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."
--Roberts
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 12, 2008, 04:13:59 PM
I have watched Sylvia Browne on TV and have found her interesting....but, after googling her, her ability to predict the future is comical....
PH, all the information you have collected to form your opinions have been written by men....and human-constructed premises...and, people like Sylvia Browne are making money, selling their human contructed ideas for a great deal of cash....and yet you find a great deal of pleasure in ripping apart Christian beliefs? :confused:
btw, I do find Sylvia Browne's topic of the "other side" very, very interesting...I have NOT read her book, but, someday, I may...
I, personally, am not real thrilled with Sylvia Brown, nor the multitude of other psychics out there. In my belief system, those that are gifted with the ability to contact the other side, should do so with no expectation of a reward. The gift is given freely to us, we should freely use it to help others when necessary. That's just my opinion though.
Quote from: pariann on November 12, 2008, 05:14:06 PM
I, personally, am not real thrilled with Sylvia Brown, nor the multitude of other psychics out there. In my belief system, those that are gifted with the ability to contact the other side, should do so with no expectation of a reward. The gift is given freely to us, we should freely use it to help others when necessary. That's just my opinion though.
And mine as well. I never said I liked the woman or believed her 100% ability to predict things. But she can indeed speak to those that have crossed over. I know from first hand experience. And in person the woman truthfully makes my flesh crawl. (yes, I HAVE met her twice, but that's another topic).
I agree with a lot of her writings around the other side, and a lot of her "philosophy" around that topic clicks with me.
Henry, I'm not trashing xtians inasmuch as I am taking the zealots to task, and I take far less enjoyment from pshawing their practices than the practitioners do themselves. They fleece the flock every week!
My opinions and personal beliefs are based upon real life experience that tempers the words of humankind. I have rid my system of the brainwashing of mainstream xtian propaganda and now listen only to my true guide, my inner self. While never perfect, it does always steer me true and most times from the morons of society and its belief system.
You know. . . really. I'm quite tempted to just keep my beliefs to myself these days. I would be most content to watch humanity creep and crawl about; bleating in agony as one ass weasel after another fleeces them of their earnings and strips them of their spirit.
Would that be selfish do you think? :biggrin:
Yes, if someone is interested in hearing your belief, there is nothing wrong with sharing. It may be something that they have never heard before. We aren't going to go knocking on doors and inviting people to church, or telling them that our way of believing is the only true way, but if THEY knock on the door, wouldn't it be great to just preach right back at them. LOL
Quote from: Palehorse on November 12, 2008, 08:17:46 PM
You know. . . really. I'm quite tempted to just keep my beliefs to myself these days. I would be most content to watch humanity creep and crawl about; bleating in agony as one ass weasel after another fleeces them of their earnings and strips them of their spirit.
Would that be selfish do you think? :biggrin:
anymore selfish than me presenting the Gospel? and you ARE trashing Christians, at least I "feel" you are...when you make the bold statements like you make, with the assumption those who believe in Christ and practice his teachings in a Church are "fools", because of the corruption by man for financial gain...of course I am paraphrasing, but that is the jest I get.....but, then you exert your beliefs, on your "inner soul"..when, basically, that is how "most" Christians that I know are lead....by what I/we call the Holy Spirit, which guides "my/our" inner soul...
I for one do not go "preachin"...I don't feel any "calling" to do such a thing.......I have NO problem with others telling me of their beliefs, I find it facinating to be honest.....In my opinion...we ALL have to find our own way throught this world....
PH, I find your belief system really facinating, and agree with alot of your theories....or beliefs......I hope you do NOT keep your beliefs to your self, I enjoy reading about your ideas....especially about those who have 'crossed'....
We've been down this path many times before so I will leave it at that. I need a change of scenery . . . :biggrin:
Quote from: Palehorse on November 13, 2008, 02:08:50 PM
We've been down this path many times before so I will leave it at that. I need a change of scenery . . . :biggrin:
fair enough ;)
I just felt the need to express my views, once again....the way I see it.
I need a nice change too.... ;D
let me know when you find one... ;)
Nice Change (http://www.google.com/search?q=%27nice+change%27&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a)
Quote from: pariann on November 13, 2008, 04:09:37 PM
Nice Change (http://www.google.com/search?q=%27nice+change%27&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a)
:biggrin: :razz:
LOL, well you know what they say. You can find ANYTHING on the internet.
Thanks Pari..... :)........not EXACTLY what I had in mind...but,..................................................................I asked... :yes:
anything hmmm? :icon_twisted:
Yes ANYTHING.....did you see this site. I'm very disappointed that someone is making money off of cheating spouses.
www.ashleymadison.com
You have got to be kidding. Surely those shows I seen mentioned don't advertise that garbage.
I only heard it mentioned on the Today show yesterday. And they were not building it up. They were expressing what a shame it was. They almost didn't reveal the url for it. Hoda had to actually say it, because it was blurred out when they showed the billboards that are being displayed advertising it.
(http://www.cheatingways.com/wp-content/uploads/life_is_short_have_an_affair.jpg)
They actually have a television advertisement for it too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZLjwhEp7nU
Life is short; have an affair, and ruin what little you have left of it! :biggrin:
Blur it out for who? Seriously, if you're with the person you should be with then the billboard is hardley threatening....right?
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on November 15, 2008, 01:41:47 AM
Blur it out for who? Seriously, if you're with the person you should be with then the billboard is hardley threatening....right?
Yep. If all it takes is a billboard then do me a favor and STAY gone! :biggrin:
Quote from: American_Woman on November 17, 2008, 07:18:14 PM
Yep. If all it takes is a billboard then do me a favor and STAY gone! :biggrin:
No kidding!
One thing about it, it takes the BS out of the cheating for the cheaters. No more, "my wife/husband left, died," or whatever. They go into it knowing they are both cheating dogs. At least they can be honest with someone.
I was tempeted to sign up and see who was in there that I might know, but then again I'm better off not knowing. I'll just wait to read about the divorce filing in the court news. :wink:
There's very little chance that you would be able to tell if you know anyone. Most people don't display a photo of themselves. i've also noticed that few will message someone in their own backyard. They usually choose neighboring areas where the anonymous person they are initially messaging is less likely to be someone they already know.
Reminds me of a gal here at work. She was married, and had a rendevous with her married boyfriend, 300 miles from home. What did they do, but stepped out of their motel room and run smack into a couple they both knew from home! :eek:
She laughs about it now.
I guess that's all that they can do at that point lol
That would definitely be an uncomfortable situation for both parties.
temp: -6f
it could get 35 degrees warmer, and the water would STILL BE FRIGGIN' FROZEN!
:icon_evil:
Quote from: awol on December 15, 2008, 05:53:31 PM
temp: -6f
it could get 35 degrees warmer, and the water would STILL BE FRIGGIN' FROZEN!
:icon_evil:
We've got 3-6 inches of snow on the way tomorrow. Yesterday, we got a half an inch of ice, and 2 inches of snow. I'll trade that for your -6. :biggrin:
I literally might cough a lung out. Of course the doctor said she couldn't do anything for me!! Can I please get some cough syrup with codene? Please!
Quote from: Dexter Morgan on December 15, 2008, 05:57:31 PM
We've got 3-6 inches of snow on the way tomorrow. Yesterday, we got a half an inch of ice, and 2 inches of snow. I'll trade that for your -6. :biggrin:
it's not an "either/or" here. we got 2 inches of snow monday, we're getting 3 today, another inch or so over night...
possibly more thursday.
Quote from: awol on December 16, 2008, 12:49:18 PM
it's not an "either/or" here. we got 2 inches of snow monday, we're getting 3 today, another inch or so over night...
possibly more thursday.
Dontcha just love Winter? :rolleyes:
Quote from: Dexter Morgan on December 16, 2008, 12:55:01 PM
Dontcha just love Winter? :rolleyes:
:no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :no:
Quote from: me on December 16, 2008, 12:56:58 PM
:no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :no:
I'm sick to death of it already. :rolleyes:
Heck, I'm still waiting for the snow!
Quote from: pariann on December 18, 2008, 05:37:33 PM
Heck, I'm still waiting for the snow!
Unfortunately I think ice will be coming first.
Am I still waiting on the ice? I didn't go to that 2010 workshop because i didn't want to get caught driving home in it, and last I looked, we were getting nothing. I could have went to the meeting!
Quote from: pariann on December 18, 2008, 09:04:25 PM
Am I still waiting on the ice? I didn't go to that 2010 workshop because i didn't want to get caught driving home in it, and last I looked, we were getting nothing. I could have went to the meeting!
I think it must be moving slower than they expected which might not be so good. It is on its way though and it looks pretty big. We can only hope it will dissipate some.
Hello awol...I dropped in to say hello and to wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New year! :biggrin2:
(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/Anitacook_13/Holidays/Christmas/merrychristmas-redsleigh.gif)
thank you! and a very merry christmas and happy new year to you and yours!
Merry Christmas to you and all those close to you, awol
the vike's are in the playoffs!
Quote from: awol on December 29, 2008, 10:12:31 AM
the vike's are in the playoffs!
:biggrin: My wife and I are excited about that too. :biggrin: The vikes were one of our childhood favorite teams. . . :yes:
Looks like it's the Bolts vs the Colts too! Again. . . :rolleyes:
Quote from: Palehorse on December 29, 2008, 10:17:50 AM
:biggrin: My wife and I are excited about that too. :biggrin: The vikes were one of our childhood favorite teams. . . :yes:
I think of Bud Grant, The Purple People Eaters, led by Alan Page, Carl Eller...Fran Tarkenton, Chuck Foreman, Bobby "Ahmad Rashād" Moore..back when I was a kid watch them and the Bears going at it...though I was a Bears fan...that was some GREAT football. :yes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 29, 2008, 10:30:09 AM
I think of Bud Grant, The Purple People Eaters, led by Alan Page, Carl Eller...Fran Tarkenton, Chuck Foreman, Bobby "Ahmad Rashād" Moore..back when I was a kid watch them and the Bears going at it...though I was a Bears fan...that was some GREAT football. :yes:
Indeed Hank! :yes: :yes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 29, 2008, 10:30:09 AM
I think of Bud Grant, The Purple People Eaters, led by Alan Page, Carl Eller...Fran Tarkenton, Chuck Foreman, Bobby "Ahmad Rashād" Moore..back when I was a kid watch them and the Bears going at it...though I was a Bears fan...that was some GREAT football. :yes:
ditka and da bears!
ahhh memories! :yes:
Quote from: awol on December 29, 2008, 12:43:56 PM
ditka and da bears!
ahhh memories! :yes:
AND, the GREATEST RUNNING BA...I'M MEAN THE GREATEST
PLAYER OF ALL TIME...............WALTER "SWEETNESS" PAYTON...
Man, I miss watching that guy play football.... :(
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 29, 2008, 12:54:14 PM
AND, the GREATEST RUNNING BA...I'M MEAN THE GREATEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME...............WALTER "SWEETNESS" PAYTON...
Man, I miss watching that guy play football.... :(
God rest his soul!
Who is gonna win?
not to mention william "the refrigerator" perry!
:-\
if it's 60 degrees warmer than it was last week, and the snow still isn't melting...
yooooooooouuuuuuu might be in minnesota.
change has come to america!
march 2007 -
"Now every American, including media people, should evaluate the president and form conclusions. That is our duty as citizens. But this hate stuff, this rooting for the administration to fail in Iraq and other areas is un-American, unbecoming and unacceptable. Like him or not President Bush is the elected leader of this country."
january 2009 -
"So I shamelessly say, no, I want him to fail, if his agenda is a far- left collectivism, some people say socialism, as a conservative heartfelt, deeply, why would I want socialism to succeed?"
Rush has become a babling fucking idiot. He has as much credibilty as Jerry Springer does at this point......correction less credibilty than Springer. I used to like to listen to him. He has become a hate monger. Repubs need to somehow cut the cord on his line.
This forum has been a wonderful outlet for my anger and frustration over my misrepresentation during the last eight years. Now that the torch has been passed, and the ones with functional brains are in charge, I find little to be angry about anymore. This isn't a goodbye, I'm sure I'll find some amusing bits here and there to add my two cents to, for instance when someone claims we are "vilifying" Rush Limbaugh or Ann Coulter. Not that terrible things aren't being said about them, but they are in fact villains - enemies of our country, and its government.
But I digress.
Thanks for listening to me rant about what's wrong for so long, and look forward to fewer rants...at least for the next 4 years...(fingers crossed for 8)
Quote from: awol on March 04, 2009, 06:24:11 PM
This forum has been a wonderful outlet for my anger and frustration over my misrepresentation during the last eight years. Now that the torch has been passed, and the ones with functional brains are in charge, I find little to be angry about anymore. This isn't a goodbye, I'm sure I'll find some amusing bits here and there to add my two cents to, for instance when someone claims we are "vilifying" Rush Limbaugh or Ann Coulter. Not that terrible things aren't being said about them, but they are in fact villains - enemies of our country, and its government.
But I digress.
Thanks for listening to me rant about what's wrong for so long, and look forward to fewer rants...at least for the next 4 years...(fingers crossed for 8)
I wouldn't bet the farm on that awol. I'm thinkin' the longer this current trend continues the more you're going to find to rant about.
Yeah, like how the previous administration left us in such poor shape that it will be near impossible for us to recover. :razz:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on March 04, 2009, 08:11:23 PM
Yeah, like how the previous administration left us in such poor shape that it will be near impossible for us to recover. :razz:
That is pure BS and I'm getting real sick of hearing it. Why is it the stock market takes a dive every time Obama speaks? Bush might not have been perfect but the last two years of the Dem congress did a lot of damage too. For that matter every time Bush tried to do something right the Dems pulled that filibuster thing or put things in bills that there was no way Bush was going to sign them during his entire presidency. Get the stars out of your eyes and the George Soros left wing propaganda BS out of your ears and wake up and smell the coffee before you end up having to be fitted for a burka. Congress is heading you right for it and Obama is being put in the trick bag real quick by them. He is beholden to too many of the wrong people if you'll look back at his campaign contributors and who financed his college education. Bush is being used as a smoke screen to distract from what's really happening. It's time to lay off the kool aid. :yes:
Quote from: me on March 04, 2009, 09:41:11 PM
That is pure BS and I'm getting real sick of hearing it. Why is it the stock market takes a dive every time Obama speaks? Bush might not have been perfect but the last two years of the Dem congress did a lot of damage too. For that matter every time Bush tried to do something right the Dems pulled that filibuster thing or put things in bills that there was no way Bush was going to sign them during his entire presidency. Get the stars out of your eyes and the George Soros left wing propaganda BS out of your ears and wake up and smell the coffee before you end up having to be fitted for a burka. Congress is heading you right for it and Obama is being put in the trick bag real quick by them. He is beholden to too many of the wrong people if you'll look back at his campaign contributors and who financed his college education. Bush is being used as a smoke screen to distract from what's really happening. It's time to lay off the kool aid. :yes:
Probably not as sick as I am of the right wing pretending that Bush and Co had NOTHING to do with this as if Obama is to blame for our current crisis.
1. Did they wipe your memory clean at the last loyal Republican meeting so that you forgot that the Republican held the majority for 6 years. That gave "the Dems" two years to attempt to fix things, but SURPRISE Bush found out that he could veto. :rolleyes:
2. Just for fun, what great bill introduced by the Repubs was it that the Democrats fillibustered which would have kept us from the horrible state we're in today?
3. Let's have some more fun. Let's discuss the Republican pork added to each bill during Republican control of congress.
4. Since we're having such a good time, let's discuss the unnecessary spending associated with the war. Specifically the profiteers that have gone unchecked during the Bush Administration. For a bonus, we can speculate as to why they went unchecked.
5. Let's even things out with your explanation of how exactly Obama speaking causes the stock market to drop. Cause and effect ... 'splain it Lucy.
Don't forget that up until a month ago, you and all the other kool aid drinkers said that the economy was better than it's ever been...it was great...there weren't any problems. Pah! Recession?!? Suddenly your tune has changed.
Your concern about Obama's associates and contributors reeks of hypocrisy, because I'd lay odds that you can't say who Bush was beholden to. Who contributed to his campaigns. Even if you did, then I seriously doubt you'd admit having a problem with any of his contributors. :rolleyes:
Maybe you should rub some of the OHannity and Limbaugh out of your eyes and Fox news out of your ears and learn to think for yourself.
You don't have the first notion why you believe the way you do. If it's Republican then it has the "me" stamp of approval. It makes you happy.
The truth of the matter is that Obama has been in office one month and you and the rest of the Right wing dings are ready to lay the problems of the past 8 years in his lap as if he caused any of this. That doesn't even pass the common sense test.
:rolleyes:
If the Dems and Repubs could quit spending so much energy laying blame and pointing fingers....they might actually be able to get something done.....wait, the Dems are getting things done in spite of all that.....scary. Don't confuse activity with results!
Quote from: DannyBoy on March 08, 2009, 10:53:40 PM
If the Dems and Repubs could quit spending so much energy laying blame and pointing fingers....they might actually be able to get something done.....wait, the Dems are getting things done in spite of all that.....scary. Don't confuse activity with results!
Problem is what they are getting done is not a good thing. :no:
you're free to leave at any time!
(now, where have i heard that...?)
hey, awol. I like your thinking. I'll post more when i get my bearings on this forum. i just movedhere from that crap forum called hey martha.
Howdy xman. Never was there but I've been here for sometime now. Guess ya might say I'm the resident alien,<see avatar>..... :biggrin:
howdy me.
Quote from: me on March 09, 2009, 01:41:22 AM
Problem is what they are getting done is not a good thing. :no:
Because you don't understand it?
Quote from: Exterminator on March 13, 2009, 04:20:38 PM
Because you don't understand it?
I understand it all too well I'm afraid and I'm not liking it one bit.
Quote from: DannyBoy on March 08, 2009, 10:53:40 PM
If the Dems and Repubs could quit spending so much energy laying blame and pointing fingers....they might actually be able to get something done.....wait, the Dems are getting things done in spite of all that.....scary. Don't confuse activity with results!
:biggrin: ;D :smile: :yes:
:spooked:
thought much of the religion in politics would go away now that the bright ones control the govt...
it's not. unfortunately.
the battle for our souls wages on.
so you all kind of have a picture of what happens if we win... nobody will know about anyone else's beliefs, it won't be a factor in daily life... yadda yadda yadda...
tell us what happens if you win? yellow stars on cloathes to mark jews? "retraining" of those who don't conform to your beliefs? eventual elimination of all ideas that oppose yours?
then who will you hate?
:rant:
it's that time of year again... when the leaves begin to turn, and the nights are too cool to sleep with the windows open. you can hear the faint mating call of the endangered "deranged bush parrot"... "9/11!... 9/11!"
LOL....hey you. :biggrin:
Hey pari! how goes?
hey you old moose gooser!!...how da heck you doing?... :confused: :)
Quote from: awol on September 15, 2009, 10:00:17 AM
Hey pari! how goes?
Same old same old. How goes it with you and the family?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 15, 2009, 10:03:21 AM
hey you old moose gooser!!...how da heck you doing?... :confused: :)
moved on to "elk"... less gamey... :biggrin:
jest out there playin'. still workin', which is a good thing in this economy...
older boy started first grade... his teacher is way more impressed with him this year than his kindergarten teacher was! i'm glad of that, cuz i thought i was just being one of those proud parents who thought his kid was... awww you know.
Pretty much the same way I feel about itty bitty. What a bright child I have. Nothing wrong with being a proud parent. :biggrin:
Quote from: awol on September 15, 2009, 09:38:06 AM
it's that time of year again... when the leaves begin to turn, and the nights are too cool to sleep with the windows open. you can hear the faint mating call of the endangered "deranged bush parrot"... "9/11!... 9/11!"
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Dude!!!! Good to see you!
amen to that!
got a story to share:
i was cooking dinner, and trying to clean up the kitchen a bit, and hold on to the threads of a conversation with my wife... Tanner was asking questions rapid fire at me... "how does the stove get hot?" ... "why do we have to boil the water first" ... "who discovered this recipe?" ... and finally i shot back at him "ANYONE EVER TELL YOU THAT YOU ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS???"
he says "ANYONE EVER TELL YOU THAT YOU ARE THE SMARTEST MAN IN THE WORLD??"
i say "QUICK!!! GO TELL YOUR MOTHER!!!"
from the other room... "i heard. sounded like sarcasm to me..."
:biggrin:
It sounds like the apple didn't fall far from the tree at all! That was a GREAT answer. ;)
Similar scenario with my daughter 'cept her response was "you said that I'm supposed to". I love/hate it when my advice comes back to haunt me ;D
Good to see you. :yes:
Quote from: awol on September 15, 2009, 10:36:44 AM
amen to that!
got a story to share:
i was cooking dinner, and trying to clean up the kitchen a bit, and hold on to the threads of a conversation with my wife... Tanner was asking questions rapid fire at me... "how does the stove get hot?" ... "why do we have to boil the water first" ... "who discovered this recipe?" ... and finally i shot back at him "ANYONE EVER TELL YOU THAT YOU ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS???"
he says "ANYONE EVER TELL YOU THAT YOU ARE THE SMARTEST MAN IN THE WORLD??"
i say "QUICK!!! GO TELL YOUR MOTHER!!!"
from the other room... "i heard. sounded like sarcasm to me..."
Ab-so-freakin'-lutely PERFECT!! :biggrin: :biggrin:
Now, that 'ere wuz funneh!
Spit muh root beer.
Quote from: awol on September 15, 2009, 10:36:44 AM
amen to that!
got a story to share:
i was cooking dinner, and trying to clean up the kitchen a bit, and hold on to the threads of a conversation with my wife... Tanner was asking questions rapid fire at me... "how does the stove get hot?" ... "why do we have to boil the water first" ... "who discovered this recipe?" ... and finally i shot back at him "ANYONE EVER TELL YOU THAT YOU ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS???"
he says "ANYONE EVER TELL YOU THAT YOU ARE THE SMARTEST MAN IN THE WORLD??"
i say "QUICK!!! GO TELL YOUR MOTHER!!!"
from the other room... "i heard. sounded like sarcasm to me..."
I just received this email joke....it made me think of this post.....of course it is not true NOR funny, I thought I would share....
THE MAMA TEST
I was out walking with my 4-year-old daughter.
She picked up something off the ground and started to put it in her mouth.
I took the item away from her and I asked her not to do that.
Why? my daughter asked.
Because it's been on the ground; you don't know where it's been, it's dirty,
and probably has germs, I replied.
At this point, my daughter looked at me with total admiration and asked,
Mama, how do you know all this stuff? You are so smart.
I was thinking quickly and replied, All moms know this stuff. It's on the Mama Test.
You have to know it, or they won't let you be a Mama.
We walked along in silence for 2 or 3 minutes, but she was evidently pondering this new information.
Oh.....I get it! she beamed, So if you don't pass the test you have to be the dad.
Exactly, I replied with a big smile on my face.
What do you mean it's not funny? I think it is quite funny!! :biggrin:
Quote from: pariann on September 15, 2009, 01:40:40 PM
What do you mean it's not funny? I think it is quite funny!! :biggrin:
i just KNEW you would.... :rolleyes: ;D
I've been told I have a strange sense of humor.....usually by men. :wink:
Quote from: pariann on September 15, 2009, 01:40:40 PM
What do you mean it's not funny? I think it is quite funny!! :biggrin:
You forgot to mention that it's also true.... :biggrin:
OM-freakin'-G! It's going to snow in Miami! me disagreed with Henry! :biggrin:
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ROFLMAO Hey, I couldn't help myself what can I say..... :biggrin:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on September 15, 2009, 04:07:55 PM
OM-freakin'-G! It's going to snow in Miami! me disagreed with Henry! :biggrin:
LOL that was a gender issue, not a political one. How many women agree with men on that kind of thing. :wink: