I have asked this question to many Republicans and I have never gotten a straight answer. And here their are. Since 1948, name 5 things the Republicans have done for the common working man, the working woman, their families, and their country. If one of the answers is tax cuts and your income is less than $100,000 a year. How much money did you get back. The second group of questions is. Since 1948 name 10 things that the Republicans done for the corporations, banks, Wall Street stock market, foreign traders and the military complex. It seem to me that it doesn't take a rocket scientist to answer these question. But believe me when I say, I can get any Republican to answer the questions. All I get is another question.
The Troll
Welcome and good luck with that :biggrin:
They have allowed me to keep more of my money through tax cuts so I can make the choice of where to spend my money. They have allowed private enterprise to flourish and provide jobs. They have kept taxes low on large businesses and corporations so they can hire and pay wages and enable other smaller businesses to furnish supplies to them to further employment opportunities. They have kept down entitlements which encourage people to not do for themselves and places and unfair burden on those who have to fund them through their hard work. They have done their best to keep government small and not intrude into our lives and let us decide for ourselves what we eat, drive, watch, and listen to.
Sure there have been those who have gotten rich under the Republican way of doing things but isn't that the way it's supposed to work. Shouldn't people be allowed to have a chance to get rich and keep what they earn? Yes, all men are created equal but what happens through out their life does not guarantee that they stay that way. Yes, they are equal as far as being human beings but some will always have more than others and that is the way of life and the government is not responsible for us we are responsible for ourselves and those who have more should not be expected to share with those who aren't as fortunate.
See what I mean? ;D
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I see all of the baloney of the money they have let you keep and how many jobs you have created. Just how much money have you saved? Give me figure. How many jobs have you created? Give me a figure. You guys sure haven't created many jobs in the last 8 years have you? You say it is alright to deregulate rules that have keep the thieves from destroying this country, like they have in the last 8 years. You say it is alright to get rich through stealing, fraud, cheating people out of their money. Look at Bernie, he robbed from everybody and most of them "were" rich. We had a guy telling Bush's FTC about him and they did nothing. People like you who think they are the brightest
bulb in the pack have the right to take illegal advantage of someone else. Do you think it is right for the 10 % of the super-rich to own 90% of all the money in this country. What you need is to move to Mexico where the rich owns everything and we get the people that were starving down there. Your are one of those people that I would like to buy for what you are really worth to America and sell you for what you think your worth. Then I would be one of the super-rich. The Troll
Quote from: The Troll on March 06, 2010, 03:17:13 PM
I see all of the baloney of the money they have let you keep and how many jobs you have created. Just how much money have you saved? Give me figure. How many jobs have you created? Give me a figure. You guys sure haven't created many jobs in the last 8 years have you? You say it is alright to deregulate rules that have keep the thieves from destroying this country, like they have in the last 8 years. You say it is alright to get rich through stealing, fraud, cheating people out of their money. Look at Bernie, he robbed from everybody and most of them "were" rich. We had a guy telling Bush's FTC about him and they did nothing. People like you who think they are the brightest
bulb in the pack have the right to take illegal advantage of someone else. Do you think it is right for the 10 % of the super-rich to own 90% of all the money in this country. What you need is to move to Mexico where the rich owns everything and we get the people that were starving down there. Your are one of those people that I would like to buy for what you are really worth to America and sell you for what you think your worth. Then I would be one of the super-rich. The Troll
What?????? Are you for real? You can't possibly believe that tripe you're spewing. If you happened to be lucky enough to have a business that was doing well does that mean you would gladly hand over 50% or more of your earnings to the government? Wouldn't you move your business to a place where you could keep most of your earnings? Which makes more sense to you? Which one keeps people working? Common sense should apply here ya know and you sure aren't using it. US~high taxes/overseas~lower taxes.....duh where are the incentives? How would that keep employment up and help us here? Where is the government supposed to get the money to give us all those entitlements you think we deserve then?
Yes, I'm for real. Would I pay 50% of my money in taxes? Yes I would to keep this country the bastion of freedom and compassion. Here we go again, no answers, no figures. Just more questions. Answer my first questions aren't you smart enough take a little test and tell the truth for a change. Yes, I owned a business, for 40 years. A state licenced plumbing contractor. Would I move my business over seas so I can pay slave wages and pay no taxes. NO, NO, NO. You must be a very greedy person, a lamprey who wants to suck the life out of this country by not paying taxes and living of the backs of other people. Kid you think you know it all. You were born into this world with nothing and you will leave it with nothing. Just remember you are renting the thing you worship now, for just as long as you live. Just watch a funeral procession and see how much the guy that is leaving this world gets to take with him. Republican freedom, my ass, you guys want to stick your nose into a woman's right to do with her body what she wants to, it's nobody's business but hers, if she gets pregnant, what she does with that pregnancy. Now just answer these 15 questions with facts and figures or do you want me and the other Democrats in this forum answer them for you, in 60 seconds.
Quote from: The Troll on March 06, 2010, 09:50:46 PM
Yes, I'm for real. Would I pay 50% of my money in taxes? Yes I would to keep this country the bastion of freedom and compassion. Here we go again, no answers, no figures. Just more questions. Answer my first questions aren't you smart enough take a little test and tell the truth for a change. Yes, I owned a business, for 40 years. A state licenced plumbing contractor. Would I move my business over seas so I can pay slave wages and pay no taxes. NO, NO, NO. You must be a very greedy person, a lamprey who wants to suck the life out of this country by not paying taxes and living of the backs of other people. Kid you think you know it all. You were born into this world with nothing and you will leave it with nothing. Just remember you are renting the thing you worship now, for just as long as you live. Just watch a funeral procession and see how much the guy that is leaving this world gets to take with him. Republican freedom, my ass, you guys want to stick your nose into a woman's right to do with her body what she wants to, it's nobody's business but hers, if she gets pregnant, what she does with that pregnancy. Now just answer these 15 questions with facts and figures or do you want me and the other Democrats in this forum answer them for you, in 60 seconds.
I don't mind paying taxes at all and in fact have for quite sometime but not over half of what I make that is wrong any way you look at it. What exactly is wrong with wanting to keep money I earn? What is it with all of you entitlement people? Where is the incentive to even try if you are going to give over half of what you make to the government? You and your type need to quit making people feel guilty for wanting to make a profit and like they're doing something wrong. If this BS keeps up like it's going the whole country is going to be in the same shape that Cal is in right now. Hell even Opera Winfrey won't reside there because the taxes there are too high. If it doesn't work there why would it work on a larger scale for the whole country. Do you really want the entire country to go the way of California? You can give me hypothetical figures all day and it won't prove anything. Look at your theory in real life.
Just where do you get, I don't want a working man to make a profit. I was a plumbing contractor for 40 years, I made a profit, I was never sued, never audited (taxes) never had any complaint to the BBB. I did not advertise, my customer did it for me. No yellow pages, too expensive, if you are a good craftsman and do quality work and a good product, you don't need the YellowPages. But I have sure worked around a lot of cheating, stealing, robbing contractors. Who used substandard material, shoddy workmanship, working under the table so they can get cheaper labor, cheating the government out of taxes and the honest skilled worker out of work. Hiring illegal aliens then cheating them. Working unlicensed plumber to put in plumbing. If you own a new house and could see under the drywall, you would just get sick. But here we go again, another question. Can't "you people" Republicans (teabaggers) answer the 15 guestions I asked. Again NO ANSWERS, NO FACTS AND NO FIGURES. By chance do you know what a teabagger is? If you don't, have one of you friends that is in Porno for the answer. "You people sure know how to pick a name. Oh one more thing. "people like you" have already bet the taxman by moving all of the jobs overseas. They drove the American businesses out of business for their own greed. "Your people" have bought Washington to pass more tax breaks for you rich people and you have let the predatory corporations drive this country into depression. "Your the people' who said "WE DON'T NEED MANUFACTURING, WE NEED TO SEND MORE PEOPLE TO COLLEGE." Now we don't have jobs and a whole lot of unemployed dumbass college educated people looking for a job that doesn't require a college education. Just look what "you people " have done to America in just the last 8 years and "you" voted for him 2 times. Enough said. Answer my questions. The Troll.
Quote from: The Troll on March 07, 2010, 10:46:44 AM
Just where do you get, I don't want a working man to make a profit. I was a plumbing contractor for 40 years, I made a profit, I was never sued, never audited (taxes) never had any complaint to the BBB. I did not advertise, my customer did it for me. No yellow pages, too expensive, if you are a good craftsman and do quality work and a good product, you don't need the YellowPages. But I have sure worked around a lot of cheating, stealing, robbing contractors. Who used substandard material, shoddy workmanship, working under the table so they can get cheaper labor, cheating the government out of taxes and the honest skilled worker out of work. Hiring illegal aliens then cheating them. Working unlicensed plumber to put in plumbing. If you own a new house and could see under the drywall, you would just get sick. But here we go again, another question. Can't "you people" Republicans (teabaggers) answer the 15 guestions I asked. Again NO ANSWERS, NO FACTS AND NO FIGURES. By chance do you know what a teabagger is? If you don't, have one of you friends that is in Porno for the answer. "You people sure know how to pick a name. Oh one more thing. "people like you" have already bet the taxman by moving all of the jobs overseas. They drove the American businesses out of business for their own greed. "Your people" have bought Washington to pass more tax breaks for you rich people and you have let the predatory corporations drive this country into depression. "Your the people' who said "WE DON'T NEED MANUFACTURING, WE NEED TO SEND MORE PEOPLE TO COLLEGE." Now we don't have jobs and a whole lot of unemployed dumbass college educated people looking for a job that doesn't require a college education. Just look what "you people " have done to America in just the last 8 years and "you" voted for him 2 times. Enough said. Answer my questions. The Troll.
What? You don't even make sense. I gave you an example of what raising taxes can do to a state, California, they are broke and getting more broke. Don't tell me about plumbers because we have a good freind who has been in the plumbing business for over 30yrs and I know how that works and it doesn't compare to a large corporation and what I'm talking about. And don't even start on trying to do a put down on his plumbing business because you don't even know him or anything about him.
You keep yelling about facts and figures when all you have to do is pay attention to what's going on. Factories closing up and leaving or cutting back on production, businesses going under, construction projects slowing down, and it is getting worse not better. Don't give me that inherited BS either because we are in the 2nd year of Obama and the 4thyr of a democratic congress at this point.
Oh my god are you stupid. I'm not knocking you plumbing buddy, he was no more affected by taxes than me. Ask him how bad the insurance company took advantage him on his liability, truck and business insurance, just because he was a plumber. Light your torch in a house and it burns down two week later and "you people" will sue him, ask if him if I'm not right. Now you want to talk about high taxes in California. Well, if you take out the 8 million to 10 million illegal aliens that are there, which you buddy George W. didn't do anything about but talk. Plus all of the millions of dollars INRON stole from them. When Phil Graham , George W's buddy deregulated the energy industry and all of the foreign goods they buy out there, remember it goes through California before it get to you. You talk about all of the entitlements. I have seen so many of "you people" who worshiped the dollar, lived high on the hog, buying the most expensive stuff, get sick, have a stroke, have accident, get caught by the IRS for cheating on their taxes, go broke, lose every you stole. "you people" are are now on Social Security. Medicare and the government drug plan which "you Republicans" didn't fund. Then after you have lost your health, all of you expensive stuff and "you people' have go to a nursing home you will Medicaid. And all of these things were payed by taxes. Oprah, give me a break, about her leaving California. Hell, California is now a low rent state for her. She moved to Hawaii, have you goggled mapped in her house. WOW. Plus this one she has 4 or 5 more just as big and expensive. But then again, she a BILLIONAIRE, not bad for a black, woman who started as a TV reporter. Guess what, she paid her taxes and still did it. You don't have to steal, cheat, lie, not pay taxes to make it. You my friend have no conscience quite frankly braindead, you sure don't make sense with your reasoning. Plus your greedy. Now come on, it ain't hard. Since 1948 how many things or laws have the Republicans passed that were good for the common man and woman. Since 1948 how many laws have the Republicans passed for the corporations, banks, stockmarket, lobbyist, the free traders and the industrial military complex. Hummmmmm The Troll.
Quote from: The Troll on March 06, 2010, 09:50:46 PM
Yes, I'm for real. Would I pay 50% of my money in taxes? Yes I would to keep this country the bastion of freedom and compassion. Here we go again, no answers, no figures. Just more questions. Answer my first questions aren't you smart enough take a little test and tell the truth for a change. Yes, I owned a business, for 40 years. A state licenced plumbing contractor. Would I move my business over seas so I can pay slave wages and pay no taxes. NO, NO, NO. You must be a very greedy person, a lamprey who wants to suck the life out of this country by not paying taxes and living of the backs of other people. Kid you think you know it all. You were born into this world with nothing and you will leave it with nothing. Just remember you are renting the thing you worship now, for just as long as you live. Just watch a funeral procession and see how much the guy that is leaving this world gets to take with him. Republican freedom, my ass, you guys want to stick your nose into a woman's right to do with her body what she wants to, it's nobody's business but hers, if she gets pregnant, what she does with that pregnancy. Now just answer these 15 questions with facts and figures or do you want me and the other Democrats in this forum answer them for you, in 60 seconds.
I heard somebody in another t forum ask when we would elect our first atheist president. I responded we already have. At least three times.
All 3 Democrats elected since Roe v Wade are atheist in deed, if not word. Neither Carter, Clinton, nor Obama stand for any Christian or religious principles that I can see. All three punished the poor by keeping the down, keeping them dependent. All of them disrespect life with their abortion agenda, and all three believe it's OK to steal from achievers.
None of these men while in office displayed any action that resembles Christianity, rather, God is clearly absent from the workings of these men. Ergo, they have to be atheist.
I have heard a whole lot of bullshit out of you far right religious wackos. You need not worry about the atheist, they are not after you or your stupid religion. You got to worry about the lying, thieving, stupid, braindead teabagger. Would I like to live in a world controlled by you idiots. Hell no. I just can't see me kissing your ring and you can kiss my ass. The Troll.
Ah, you republican conservatives and your religious zealotry / hypocrisy. The next one of you lame brained whacknuts to start trying to utilize the "family values" platform better remember it was one of your very own that sat around back-dooring the 14 million+ unemployed families in this country like they were a piece of dog shit on your shoes.
That flag won't fly no more either! :rant:
Just like their leaders. Sociopathic.
Quote from: The Troll on March 07, 2010, 03:03:21 PM
Oh my god are you stupid. I'm not knocking you plumbing buddy, he was no more affected by taxes than me. Ask him how bad the insurance company took advantage him on his liability, truck and business insurance, just because he was a plumber. Light your torch in a house and it burns down two week later and "you people" will sue him, ask if him if I'm not right. Now you want to talk about high taxes in California. Well, if you take out the 8 million to 10 million illegal aliens that are there, which you buddy George W. didn't do anything about but talk. Plus all of the millions of dollars INRON stole from them. When Phil Graham , George W's buddy deregulated the energy industry and all of the foreign goods they buy out there, remember it goes through California before it get to you. You talk about all of the entitlements. I have seen so many of "you people" who worshiped the dollar, lived high on the hog, buying the most expensive stuff, get sick, have a stroke, have accident, get caught by the IRS for cheating on their taxes, go broke, lose every you stole. "you people" are are now on Social Security. Medicare and the government drug plan which "you Republicans" didn't fund. Then after you have lost your health, all of you expensive stuff and "you people' have go to a nursing home you will Medicaid. And all of these things were payed by taxes. Oprah, give me a break, about her leaving California. Hell, California is now a low rent state for her. She moved to Hawaii, have you goggled mapped in her house. WOW. Plus this one she has 4 or 5 more just as big and expensive. But then again, she a BILLIONAIRE, not bad for a black, woman who started as a TV reporter. Guess what, she paid her taxes and still did it. You don't have to steal, cheat, lie, not pay taxes to make it. You my friend have no conscience quite frankly braindead, you sure don't make sense with your reasoning. Plus your greedy. Now come on, it ain't hard. Since 1948 how many things or laws have the Republicans passed that were good for the common man and woman. Since 1948 how many laws have the Republicans passed for the corporations, banks, stockmarket, lobbyist, the free traders and the industrial military complex. Hummmmmm The Troll.
You really need to read something besides the Daily Kos and listen to someone other than Michael Moore and those types. What made that type of insurance so high is attorney's like John Edwards who decided it was good to sue companies or anyone else for stupid shit and award piles and stacks of money so they could get rich off the backs of insurance companies so naturally the rates had to raise to cover all the idiot law suits like the idiot woman who put the hot cup of coffee in her lap...duh...What was she thinking? Then there were the thousands of law suits against doctors who had to raise their rates because their coverage went up because of stupid law suits so in turn the insurance companies had to pay out more so they had to raise their rates for health insurance. Do you see a pattern here? Oh, of course the doctors have to order more tests now to cover their butts so that adds even more to what the insurance company has to pay out which helped increase the cost to the consumer. Insurance companies are not non for profit nor should they be. Don't give me that crap about Bush being responsible for high insurance premiums because my health insurance more than doubled in the last few months of the Clinton administration and I had to give it up because it rose from $225pr month with fairly decent coverage, including prescription and 80% of dr. visits, and a $700 deductable to $475 with basic medical, no prescription coverage no doctor visits covered, and $3000 deductable. Wouldn't have been so bad but I never used it the entire 2yrs I had it so it wasn't like I abused it and was getting to higher rates because I was a risk or something.
Now call me some more names and show how intelligent you are, or think you are, and how big your insult and cursing vocabulary is.
Oh, I didn't say Opera wasn't rich I said she doesn't have Cal as her state of residency because of the high taxes.
The influx of illegals started during the Clinton administration and the dems fought doing anything about it when Bush tried so he did what he could with the wall and guards. Those little groups that fight for the illegals are the dems pet groups ya know. They get votes for not doing anything about the increasing problem. It was the dems who decided illegals should get benefits even though they had never paid into the system. Now both sides are afraid of losing votes so neither side does anything. I didn't know illegals could vote so whats up with that anyway?
Juries awarded those sums, not political parties.
If the lawsuits didn't have merit, they would not have survived the legal system, right?
Are you unhappy with the legal system?
Quote from: followsthewolf on March 07, 2010, 06:40:56 PM
Juries awarded those sums, not political parties.
If the lawsuits didn't have merit, they would not have survived the legal system, right?
Are you unhappy with the legal system?
Yes, juries did award those large sums but that doesn't mean it was right. The point is the attorney's in congress wouldn't let any legislation pass that tried to put the skids to the types of lawsuits that caused all of this in the first place. Those attorney's were getting rich off the backs of insurance companies any way you look at it and John Edwards was one of them. Why do you think we are besieged with warnings on things about how to use a product? Remove clothes before ironing, don't stand on top step,( on step ladders), do not use in bath tub, (on hair dryers), and the list goes on. People blaming others for their own stupidity and attorney's cashing in. Are you old enough to remember when falling on a play ground a breaking your arm was not grounds to sue the equipment manufacturer for damages? Remember when getting drunk and injuring someone or worse in an automobile accident was the persons fault and not the fault of the person who might have served them or the establishment where they were last even though they might have left there fine and went somewhere else, even a package liquor store and drank after that which put them over the edge. The attorney's go for the deepest pockets which is the establishments not the people who are actually responsible. It is not done for the client it is done for their pockets period. And to answer your question no, I am not happy with a lot in our legal system and the way things are getting. Yes, there are some good and honest attorney's but they aren't the rich ones either.
Sounds like your irritation is with the juries (good American citizens, probably patriots all) who made these awards, not the laws that made these lawsuits possible.
If there were no bases for the suits, the money awards would not have been made, right?
Or maybe, I'm totally wrong, 'cuz you have lots of evidence to the contrary, right?
Quote from: me on March 07, 2010, 07:01:48 PM
Yes, juries did award those large sums but that doesn't mean it was right. The point is the attorney's in congress wouldn't let any legislation pass that tried to put the skids to the types of lawsuits that caused all of this in the first place. Those attorney's were getting rich off the backs of insurance companies any way you look at it and John Edwards was one of them. Why do you think we are besieged with warnings on things about how to use a product? Remove clothes before ironing, don't stand on top step,( on step ladders), do not use in bath tub, (on hair dryers), and the list goes on. People blaming others for their own stupidity and attorney's cashing in. Are you old enough to remember when falling on a play ground a breaking your arm was not grounds to sue the equipment manufacturer for damages? Remember when getting drunk and injuring someone or worse in an automobile accident was the persons fault and not the fault of the person who might have served them or the establishment where they were last even though they might have left there fine and went somewhere else, even a package liquor store and drank after that which put them over the edge. The attorney's go for the deepest pockets which is the establishments not the people who are actually responsible. It is not done for the client it is done for their pockets period. And to answer your question no, I am not happy with a lot in our legal system and the way things are getting. Yes, there are some good and honest attorney's but they aren't the rich ones either.
First of all we've been up and down this slippery slope a thousand times surrounding responsibility, and the republicans were one of the ones yelling for it the loudest. IIRC.
So in your mind the bartender who over-serves a patron, despite the man/woman's obviously being so drunk they can barely stand, should hold no responsibility if that same patron goes out and hits a crowd of school kids in the cross walk because he/she passed out behind the wheel? Bullshit!
And you guys cry for responsibility out of one side of your mouth while decrying the result of it out of the other! Surprise! More hypocrisy! :rolleyes:
To reiterate:
Quote from: followsthewolf on March 07, 2010, 07:08:29 PM
Sounds like your irritation is with the juries (good American citizens, probably patriots all) who made these awards, not the laws that made these lawsuits possible.
If there were no bases for the suits, the money awards would not have been made, right?
Or maybe, I'm totally wrong, 'cuz you have lots of evidence to the contrary, right?
My point in bringing that all up is to show a lot of the reason insurance rates have sky rocketed over the last few years. Law suits and huge payouts do not make for low insurance premiums.
And no, I don't think a bartender or establishment should be held responsible for a customer. Who is to say when a customer has had enough. I wouldn't be safe to drive after one and a half drinks where someone else might be able to drink 4 or 5 and be perfectly fine to drive. I have a friend who used to start drinking as soon as his feet hit the floor in the morning and he drank until he went to bed that night and you couldn't even tell he had been drinking. What about the bartender or establishment who might be sued for serving someone and then they find out later the person went somewhere else and drank and was actually fine when he left the establishment which was sued?
Coffee is hot....any person with half a brain should know not to put a styrofoam cup of hot coffee between their legs and try to drive.
Now I'm really confused.
Just what is "a lot of the reason insurance rates have sky rocketed over the last few years"?
If you showed it, I'm sorry, I missed it.
You just said that insurance rates go up when insurance companies have to pay a lot of claims.
What you didn't support was that legislation was the cause vs. jury awards being the cause.
Or, is that just a result of vast "life experience"?
Quote from: me on March 07, 2010, 07:35:50 PM
My point in bringing that all up is to show a lot of the reason insurance rates have sky rocketed over the last few years. Law suits and huge payouts do not make for low insurance premiums.
And no, I don't think a bartender or establishment should be held responsible for a customer. Who is to say when a customer has had enough. I wouldn't be safe to drive after one and a half drinks where someone else might be able to drink 4 or 5 and be perfectly fine to drive. I have a friend who used to start drinking as soon as his feet hit the floor in the morning and he drank until he went to bed that night and you couldn't even tell he had been drinking. What about the bartender or establishment who might be sued for serving someone and then they find out later the person went somewhere else and drank and was actually fine when he left the establishment which was sued?
Coffee is hot....any person with half a brain should know not to put a styrofoam cup of hot coffee between their legs and try to drive.
First of all, those very situations are what the legal process is designed to ferret out and bring to light. And you cannot tell me that you are going to bring up that coffee thing at McDonald's again?! Even after you were shown the facts of the case the media conveniently overlooked? (Yet another example surrounding why you often encounter name calling and insults - you believe the propaganda and refuse to even consider the facts despite empirical proof).
And you are still going to believe that insurance industry tripe too? So Katrina, ET AL, have nothing to do with insurance rates either do they? Hey, that industry is nothing more than legalized gambling; they're gambling nothing will happen to you and you gambling that something will. But if you try and welch on the bet they'll cancel you, and if you try to collect they'll welch and get away with it if they can!
Better educated juries (training and instruction) could help with what you see as excessive awards, however once again I will state that the judge sitting in each case has the ability to vacate or modify the award of a jury at his/her discretion, should it be found to be excessive or wrong. The fact is they usually don't because they, like the juries, know the true facts of the case, while armchair judiciaries only know what the media tells them . . .
Quote from: followsthewolf on March 07, 2010, 07:44:31 PM
Now I'm really confused.
Just what is "a lot of the reason insurance rates have sky rocketed over the last few years"?
If you showed it, I'm sorry, I missed it.
You just said that insurance rates go up when insurance companies have to pay a lot of claims.
What you didn't support was that legislation was the cause vs. jury awards being the cause.
Or, is that just a result of vast "life experience"?
Legislation to stop the frivolous law suits and huge awards is what was stopped. Juries are sometimes made up of those types of people who have the idea that no one is responsible for their own actions and therefore they are prone to go with the plaintiff whether right or wrong.
Now take away all the non essential parts out of this conversation and what it comes down to is simply the increase in insurance premiums are the result of what they have been having to pay out due to claims and the increase in costs of medicine and doctor visits plus the increased testing having to be done due to doctors not wanting to be sued due over a misdiagnosis. Also the chances of your family doctor sending you to a specialist is greater now just to be on the safe side. Those aren't all bad things but are a contributing factor in the high cost of insurance. Bottom line, insurance companies pay out more so they charge more just like any other business.
Oh just for the record I too think insurance is just legal extortion but the way things are today you almost have to have it, well you do have to have it for your auto and home since the mortgage companies and law requires it.
Well, Republicans I have waited several days for answers. Guess what, no answers, no name of bills in congress. No amount of tax money they got back, just the answer "The "Troll should know." Well, I don't know what bills the Republican have passed for the good of the working people. I don't know how much tax money "those people" got back, I know I didn't get any any money back. As far as bills the Republicans passed for the corporations and the super-rich, I do know them and tell, but "you guys", don't want to hear them and the truth.
So Democrats can you name any bills the the Republicans passed for the good of the common man and his family. I would really like to know. I do remember George W. going all over the country to get us, the America people to put "all" of our social security money in the stock market. Thank God we didn't fall for that B,S. ;D :) :yes:
The Troll.
Quote from: me on March 07, 2010, 08:04:58 PM
Legislation to stop the frivolous law suits and huge awards is what was stopped. Juries are sometimes made up of those types of people who have the idea that no one is responsible for their own actions and therefore they are prone to go with the plaintiff whether right or wrong.
Now take away all the non essential parts out of this conversation and what it comes down to is simply the increase in insurance premiums are the result of what they have been having to pay out due to claims and the increase in costs of medicine and doctor visits plus the increased testing having to be done due to doctors not wanting to be sued due over a misdiagnosis. Also the chances of your family doctor sending you to a specialist is greater now just to be on the safe side. Those aren't all bad things but are a contributing factor in the high cost of insurance. Bottom line, insurance companies pay out more so they charge more just like any other business.
I don't disagree with your "Bottom line. . . ." statement.
What I still want you to support is the "Legislation to stop the frivolous lawsuits and huge awards is what was stopped" statement.
Quote from: The Troll on March 08, 2010, 06:32:12 PM
Well, Republicans I have waited several days for answers. Guess what, no answers, no name of bills in congress. No amount of tax money they got back, just the answer "The "Troll should know." Well, I don't know what bills the Republican have passed for the good of the working people. I don't know how much tax money "those people" got back, I know I didn't get any any money back. As far as bills the Republicans passed for the corporations and the super-rich, I do know them and tell, but "you guys", don't want to hear them and the truth.
So Democrats can you name any bills the the Republicans passed for the good of the common man and his family. I would really like to know. I do remember George W. going all over the country to get us, the America people to put "all" of our social security money in the stock market. Thank God we didn't fall for that B,S. ;D :) :yes:
The Troll.
Um, the way I understood the Social Security was to be private bank accounts not tied to anything like the 401K's are. At any rate the dems would have none of that because they couldn't get their hands on it if it were in people's private bank accounts.
Just a 'curiosity' question......
Why would anyone want to put all their social security into the stock market? The stocks are a risky financial endeavor. They could bottom out at any moment and all your investment is lost. Granted, the way that social security is run there is the chance that some of us, our children or our grandchildren may pay into it and never receive any benefit when we reach SS age, but I would take the current way of managing it over a private account that could go bust without warning. And no, I certainly don't like the government dipping into those funds and using them for anything other than what we have always understood the intention to be.
Quote from: pariann on March 09, 2010, 05:50:00 AM
Just a 'curiosity' question......
Why would anyone want to put all their social security into the stock market? The stocks are a risky financial endeavor. They could bottom out at any moment and all your investment is lost. Granted, the way that social security is run there is the chance that some of us, our children or our grandchildren may pay into it and never receive any benefit when we reach SS age, but I would take the current way of managing it over a private account that could go bust without warning. And no, I certainly don't like the government dipping into those funds and using them for anything other than what we have always understood the intention to be.
I don't believe it was to be tied to the stock market like the 401k's. I also don't think it was a mandatory thing but a choice.
Quote from: The Troll on March 08, 2010, 06:32:12 PM
Well, Republicans I have waited several days for answers. Guess what, no answers, no name of bills in congress. No amount of tax money they got back, just the answer "The "Troll should know." Well, I don't know what bills the Republican have passed for the good of the working people.
well for starters, the Bush tax cuts WAS for the good of the working people....they were:
•A reduction of individual income tax rates from 15, 28, 31, 36, and 39.6 percent to 10, 15, 25, 28, 33, and 35 percent;
•An increase in the child tax credit from $500 to $1,000;
•A phased-in reduction in estate taxes, and a one-year repeal in 2010;
•A big expansion of tax-favored retirement savings plans.
these all expire in 2011, lets see how this effects the working people when they go back to the way they were.....
Quote from: pariann on March 09, 2010, 05:50:00 AM
Just a 'curiosity' question......
Why would anyone want to put all their social security into the stock market? The stocks are a risky financial endeavor. They could bottom out at any moment and all your investment is lost. Granted, the way that social security is run there is the chance that some of us, our children or our grandchildren may pay into it and never receive any benefit when we reach SS age, but I would take the current way of managing it over a private account that could go bust without warning. And no, I certainly don't like the government dipping into those funds and using them for anything other than what we have always understood the intention to be.
I guess it was tied to stocks but only diversified, approved mutual funds and not in single stocks or highly volatile stocks.
Dear Mr. Me. I really like your moniker, "ME". It has been like this for all of your life, it has been Me, Me, Me, Mine, Mine, Mine and AAA, AAA, AAA. IT'S MY MONEY AND I WANT IT NOW. You said I called you names. I did not call you stupid, I asked you a question. I asked, are you stupid, you didn't answer my question. Braindead, well maybe I went a little overboard. Let's put it this way, your brain was invaded with a virus, over loaded and it crashed from all of the B.S. information you got from Fox News, O'reilly, Hannity, Glen Beck, Sara Palin and all of your lying Republican leaders. You said I cussed, Hell, god, In the modern adult world and in an unmoderated forum, hell, god are baddie, no, no words. Question: What planet are you from. Now "ME", you can B.S. me, but I won't let you lie to me with your perverted recall of political history. You're talking to a old man who lived, served his time in the U.S. Army, worked and raised a family through all of the presidents. Roosevelt through Obama. You say you have not had health insurance since Clinton raised your health insurance, You sure have been lucky, healthwise. Question, How did Bill Clinton the best president you Republicans ever had raise your health insurance. Obama and the Democrats want you and the other people like you, who have no health insurance to be able to get health care. Question: Are you stupid? As for Oprah, her income for the year of 2006 to 2007 was $260 million. She also owns a store in California, I don't think she sold her house there because she couldn't afford the property tax with an income of $260 million.
FACT, There is no federal malpractice lawsuit law. Prove it. You say it's the trial lawyers fault. The cost of medical malpractice lawsuits and defensive medical care is less than 10% of the total cost of medical care. IT'S A RED HERRING. What about the CEO of America's largest healthcare insurance company who put into his own pocket $600 million in salary and bonus in 6 years. Plus the company made the largest profit in the history of the company. Oh, I forgot "you guys" are for making profits no matter who it hurts, it's the American Republican way. The Troll (In no way connected to Dick Cheney and his family) ;D :) :yes:
Finally got some answers of good Republican laws. Tax cuts, that didn't amount to chicken feed, just some sugar to sprinkle on the B.S. they have been feeding you. Give me some more laws, give me some Republican laws passed for the Super-rich predatory capitalist.
Quote from: The Troll on March 09, 2010, 12:14:04 PM
Dear Mr. Me. I really like your moniker, "ME". It has been like this for all of your life, it has been Me, Me, Me, Mine, Mine, Mine and AAA, AAA, AAA. IT'S MY MONEY AND I WANT IT NOW. You said I called you names. I did not call you stupid, I asked you a question. I asked, are you stupid, you didn't answer my question. Braindead, well maybe I went a little overboard. Let's put it this way, your brain was invaded with a virus, over loaded and it crashed from all of the B.S. information you got from Fox News, O'reilly, Hannity, Glen Beck, Sara Palin and all of your lying Republican leaders. You said I cussed, Hell, god, In the modern adult world and in an unmoderated forum, hell, god are baddie, no, no words. Question: What planet are you from. Now "ME", you can B.S. me, but I won't let you lie to me with your perverted recall of political history. You're talking to a old man who lived, served his time in the U.S. Army, worked and raised a family through all of the presidents. Roosevelt through Obama. You say you have not had health insurance since Clinton raised your health insurance, You sure have been lucky, healthwise. Question, How did Bill Clinton the best president you Republicans ever had raise your health insurance. Obama and the Democrats want you and the other people like you, who have no health insurance to be able to get health care. Question: Are you stupid? As for Oprah, her income for the year of 2006 to 2007 was $260 million. She also owns a store in California, I don't think she sold her house there because she couldn't afford the property tax with an income of $260 million.
FACT, There is no federal malpractice lawsuit law. Prove it. You say it's the trial lawyers fault. The cost of medical malpractice lawsuits and defensive medical care is less than 10% of the total cost of medical care. IT'S A RED HERRING. What about the CEO of America's largest healthcare insurance company who put into his own pocket $600 million in salary and bonus in 6 years. Plus the company made the largest profit in the history of the company. Oh, I forgot "you guys" are for making profits no matter who it hurts, it's the American Republican way. The Troll (In no way connected to Dick Cheney and his family) ;D :) :yes:
Finally got some answers of good Republican laws. Tax cuts, that didn't amount to chicken feed, just some sugar to sprinkle on the B.S. they have been feeding you. Give me some more laws, give me some Republican laws passed for the Super-rich predatory capitalist.
If I worked for money it is mine to put it bluntly. It is not yours or the governments to do with as they please nor is it up to them to tell me how to spend it. If you work for money it is yours and not mine. Insurance, even though it is legalized extortion, is a private enterprise and therefore none of the governments business or ours for that matter how much they pay their employees or agents. Since you have no idea what the job entails how can you say they don't deserve every penny they make?
No, I am not stupid I just don't think that someone who happens to make more money than I do owes me any of it just to make things equal between us. Why even bother to try to better yourself if you know you're going to have to pay someone else's way and if you just remain as you are someone else will pay your way? Don't you realize pretty soon there will be no one left to take from because they will be tapped out or just give up trying?
Now read what I said here:
Quote from: me on March 07, 2010, 08:04:58 PM
Now take away all the non essential parts out of this conversation and what it comes down to is simply the increase in insurance premiums are the result of what they have been having to pay out due to claims and the increase in costs of medicine and doctor visits plus the increased testing having to be done due to doctors not wanting to be sued due over a misdiagnosis. Also the chances of your family doctor sending you to a specialist is greater now just to be on the safe side. Those aren't all bad things but are a contributing factor in the high cost of insurance. Bottom line, insurance companies pay out more so they charge more just like any other business.
Quote from: The Troll on March 09, 2010, 12:14:04 PM
The cost of medical malpractice lawsuits and defensive medical care is less than 10% of the total cost of medical care. IT'S A RED HERRING.
anything YOU have to support that comment?
to me, it is just common sense, that frivolous lawsuits DRIVE up the the cost for insurances....Doctors are forced to order prescriptions and have unnecessary lab work and test run, to simply "cover" their ass....doctors have to carry a large liability insurance, which in return, they pass this cost to us....
also, we need to put an end to ambulance chasers, who are making a SWEET living off of forcing Insuance Companies into "settling" out of court for frivolous incidents....have you seen some of the obnoxious commercials on late at night of scum-bucket lawyers....
common sense is no longer a practice in washington anymore....
Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 09, 2010, 01:09:41 PM
anything YOU have to support that comment?
to me, it is just common sense, that frivolous lawsuits DRIVE up the the cost for insurances....Doctors are forced to order prescriptions and have unnecessary lab work and test run, to simply "cover" their ass....doctors have to carry a large liability insurance, which in return, they pass this cost to us....
also, we need to put an end to ambulance chasers, who are making a SWEET living off of forcing Insuance Companies into "settling" out of court for frivolous incidents....have you seen some of the obnoxious commercials on late at night of scum-bucket lawyers....
common sense is no longer a practice in washington anymore....
I'm afraid common sense, like being responsible for your own actions, has left the building.
Mr. Me, You say, If you earn the money, it is all yours. Well, here's a question, if the government came to you and said, Mr. ME, we will not charge you for any taxes, fees(a form of tax) of any kind if of hidden taxes of any kind, if you will. 1. Not use anything built by or paid for by the tax payers. 2. Your customers can't use anything built or payed for by the tax payers to get to your business. 3. When you get old, or sick, or disabled and have no food, you will not used any agents of healthcare services or charities that is payed for by the tax payers. Question is Mr. Me. Would you take the government up on their offer. This is one question I would really like to hear you answer. The Troll? ;) :'( The Troll
Mr...... ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: The Troll on March 09, 2010, 01:32:02 PM
Mr. Me, You say, If you earn the money, it is all yours. Well, here's a question, if the government came to you and said, Mr. ME, we will not charge you for any taxes, fees(a form of tax) of any kind if of hidden taxes of any kind, if you will. 1. Not use anything built by or paid for by the tax payers. 2. Your customers can't use anything built or payed for by the tax payers to get to your business. 3. When you get old, or sick, or disabled and have no food, you will not used any agents of healthcare services or charities that is payed for by the tax payers. Question is Mr. Me. Would you take the government up on their offer. This is one question I would really like to hear you answer. The Troll? ;) :'( The Troll
You just have no clue what you're saying here do you? You are blowing things waaaaaay out of proportion and you know it. Why don't you get a grip?
Why should I get a grip Mr. "ME" Its "people like you" who get us into two unfunded wars. Kill over 4,500 of our good and faithful young men and women and thousands of them horribly wounded, who will never, never made whole. :confused: :'( A unfunded drug plan. A president who for 8 years let pass every spending bill the Republican congress wanted, vetoing the Stem Cell research bill, that for one thing could have made him a new brain. After this Charlie, Foxtrot, (cluster f**k) "you people gave the super-rich a tax break, for anyone making over $300,000. How much money did you get back on your $300,000 income. I know I didn't get any tax break. Then after this Cluster-Foxtrot you want to blame Obama for the debt and depression we're in. Question, did your brain crash. And you don't want to pay your fair share, you're greedy because "ME" don't want to pay taxes. I sure have paid mine. I would you have cheated of your taxes, that if you were caught you would lose everything you have. The Troll.
Quote from: The Troll on March 09, 2010, 05:14:59 PM
Why should I get a grip Mr. "ME" Its "people like you" who get us into two unfunded wars. Kill over 4,500 of our good and faithful young men and women and thousands of them horribly wounded, who will never, never made whole. :confused: :'( A unfunded drug plan. A president who for 8 years let pass every spending bill the Republican congress wanted, vetoing the Stem Cell research bill, that for one thing could have made him a new brain. After this Charlie, Foxtrot, (cluster f**k) "you people gave the super-rich a tax break, for anyone making over $300,000. How much money did you get back on your $300,000 income. I know I didn't get any tax break. Then after this Cluster-Foxtrot you want to blame Obama for the debt and depression we're in. Question, did your brain crash. And you don't want to pay your fair share, you're greedy because "ME" don't want to pay taxes. I sure have paid mine. I would you have cheated of your taxes, that if you were caught you would lose everything you have. The Troll.
Go back to your Michael Moore book and movie and get some more facts 'cause I think that's where you're pulling this stuff from. You didn't bother to look at Henry Hawks post did ya? Now go ahead and give your Michael Moore arguments on that one. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 09, 2010, 08:35:27 AM
well for starters, the Bush tax cuts WAS for the good of the working people....they were:
•A reduction of individual income tax rates from 15, 28, 31, 36, and 39.6 percent to 10, 15, 25, 28, 33, and 35 percent;
•An increase in the child tax credit from $500 to $1,000;
•A phased-in reduction in estate taxes, and a one-year repeal in 2010;
•A big expansion of tax-favored retirement savings plans.
these all expire in 2011, lets see how this effects the working people when they go back to the way they were.....
Mr. Me and Mr. Henry Hawk. First about the tax laws the Republican passed. 1. My tax rate in 15% it hasn't change one bit. No tax breaks for the 15 percenters. The 28% braced has a 3% reduction and the rich ones 39.6% got a 4.6% tax reduction. Look who the Republican take care of first. 2. $500 savings for each kid. Great for people with kids. Me and my wife raised my son and we are still paying school tax for someone else's kids. I doesn't do a damn of the rest of the people like us. 3. Estate tax cuts, like I would give a damn since I'm dead. WOW. more place to save your money, if you got any making minimun wage. Plus you still have to pay tax when you take it out. My god, how you have bless me.
Yes, the total cost of medical malpractice lawsuits and defensive medical practice is less than 10% total. I asked you to prove me wrong and all I get is "can you prove that" Hey man you got a computer, goggle in the cost of medical malpractice lawsuits. See what your blind eyes won't see.
No I have not see any of Mr. Moore's movies. I sure heard you Republicans cry and bitch about him, Waaa, Waaa, Waaa. Question: Do you guys, get every morning emails of the Republican talking points. I have never talked to two guys that have so little knowledge about history and politics and you want me to think you are smart. NOT. The Troll. :yes: :yes: :yes:
You really need to get a life dude. You said in an earlier post you owned a plumbing business which means if you're in the tax bracket where you pay 15% you're doing a hell of a lot of creative bookwork when it comes tax time or your not a very good plumber.
Quote from: The Troll on March 09, 2010, 09:01:16 PM
Mr. Me and Mr. Henry Hawk. First about the tax laws the Republican passed. 1. My tax rate in 15% it hasn't change one bit. No tax breaks for the 15 percenters. The 28% braced has a 3% reduction and the rich ones 39.6% got a 4.6% tax reduction. Look who the Republican take care of first. 2. $500 savings for each kid. Great for people with kids. Me and my wife raised my son and we are still paying school tax for someone else's kids. I doesn't do a damn of the rest of the people like us. 3. Estate tax cuts, like I would give a damn since I'm dead. WOW. more place to save your money, if you got any making minimun wage. Plus you still have to pay tax when you take it out. My god, how you have bless me.
Yes, the total cost of medical malpractice lawsuits and defensive medical practice is less than 10% total. I asked you to prove me wrong and all I get is "can you prove that" Hey man you got a computer, goggle in the cost of medical malpractice lawsuits. See what your blind eyes won't see.
No I have not see any of Mr. Moore's movies. I sure heard you Republicans cry and bitch about him, Waaa, Waaa, Waaa. Question: Do you guys, get every morning emails of the Republican talking points. I have never talked to two guys that have so little knowledge about history and politics and you want me to think you are smart. NOT. The Troll. :yes: :yes: :yes:
Point 1: Mr. Me......LOL LOL LOL (Why aren't you correcting the troll?)
Point 2: Reading the trolls posts are hurting my grammar cells. UGH!!
Quote from: The Troll on March 09, 2010, 09:01:16 PM
Yes, the total cost of medical malpractice lawsuits and defensive medical practice is less than 10% total. I asked you to prove me wrong and all I get is "can you prove that" Hey man you got a computer, goggle in the cost of medical malpractice lawsuits. See what your blind eyes won't see.
I don't need to prove you wrong, because you ARE!!..now, if you want to try to persuade your misguided information is correct, other than just you saying it is, then go for it....
Americans are going to find out exactly how much those Bush tax cuts helped when they go away next year and most folks will be owing taxes next year instead of getting a refund....and, when a loved one dies next year, the gov is going to come in and take nearly half of what was left of his/her estate....the capital gains tax will increase during a down economy, this is NOT going to do the small business man ANY favors....and federal revenue will not grow with increased taxes, .... only economic growth will increase federal revenue....so, you have to look at the BIG picture of how tax cuts help the common man...and the facts will prevail themselves IF and WHEN these tax breaks go away in 2011.
Dear Parann, Now a sane person or persons would not put their money for Social Security into the stock market. Even "ME" and "Henry Hawk" even the people that make up the TeaBaggers didn't fall for that big tub of B.S. But ole George W. traveled the country to try to get the American people to do it. Why, his stock market, banker, super-rich friends wanted your money in their pockets. Greenspan of the Federal Reserve had lowered and lowered the interest on C.D's and loans that the people who had at one time lived off of the interest of their CDs were forced to put their money into the stock market. Which the Bernie Madoff, and the real estate crooks promptly stole plus to keep George W. afloat until he got out of office. Ole George W. didn't make it and you see what he and the Republicans have done to the country. :smitten:
Now "ME", using "DUDE are you telling me what you mental age is. You have not given me a answer on. If you did not have to pay any taxes, but you could not use anything that was paided for by the American taxpayers. WOULD YOU TAKE THEM UP ON THEIR OFFER? Hey, DUDE can I get your answer? :confused:
Yes, Me (Dude) I am in the 15% tax rate and I am proud of it. I am in the largest group of people in this country, that why we didn't get a tax cut. Somebody has to pay for the tax dead beats we have in this country. If everybody paid their taxes. Not working under the table and just flat cheating on their tax forms our taxes would be a lot lower. You have to stop the liers and the cheaters, know anything about that "ME". I have been retired for 10 years. I am helping to keep my widower brother-in-law who had a kidney transplant failure, he may of had Medicare, but it sure broke him. I am helping my son to try to keep him from loosing his home, who had lost his job and while he was layed off with no health insurance his wife gets sick with a huge medical bill. I have all ready lost $62,000 out of my retirement fund in the stock market. With a interrest rate of 1.6% on my CDs, I have lost some of my income. How about you Aholes. When I started my plumbing business I had a very rich man tell me, Son you can't do business with people who have no money. Don't think about and don't do it. Why, because you won't get rich. True story. Well, I didn't listen to him, I did cut my wages to help out poor people with their plumbing problems. I am not sorry.
The Troll ;D :) :yes:
Quote from: pariann on March 10, 2010, 08:51:53 AM
Point 1: Mr. Me......LOL LOL LOL (Why aren't you correcting the troll?)
Point 2: Reading the trolls posts are hurting my grammar cells. UGH!!
Just don't feel the need since he's so smart ya know. ;D
Ex would be sooo disappointed I'm sure. :biggrin:
Quote from: The Troll on March 10, 2010, 09:42:21 AM
Dear Parann, Now a sane person or persons would not put their money for Social Security into the stock market. Even "ME" and "Henry Hawk" even the people that make up the TeaBaggers didn't fall for that big tub of B.S. But ole George W. traveled the country to try to get the American people to do it. Why, his stock market, banker, super-rich friends wanted your money in their pockets. Greenspan of the Federal Reserve had lowered and lowered the interest on C.D's and loans that the people who had at one time lived off of the interest of their CDs were forced to put their money into the stock market. Which the Bernie Madoff, and the real estate crooks promptly stole plus to keep George W. afloat until he got out of office. Ole George W. didn't make it and you see what he and the Republicans have done to the country. :smitten:
Now "ME", using "DUDE are you telling me what you mental age is. You have not given me a answer on. If you did not have to pay any taxes, but you could not use anything that was paided for by the American taxpayers. WOULD YOU TAKE THEM UP ON THEIR OFFER? Hey, DUDE can I get your answer? :confused:
Yes, Me (Dude) I am in the 15% tax rate and I am proud of it. I am in the largest group of people in this country, that why we didn't get a tax cut. Somebody has to pay for the tax dead beats we have in this country. If everybody paid their taxes. Not working under the table and just flat cheating on their tax forms our taxes would be a lot lower. You have to stop the liers and the cheaters, know anything about that "ME". I have been retired for 10 years. I am helping to keep my widower brother-in-law who had a kidney transplant failure, he may of had Medicare, but it sure broke him. I am helping my son to try to keep him from loosing his home, who had lost his job and while he was layed off with no health insurance his wife gets sick with a huge medical bill. I have all ready lost $62,000 out of my retirement fund in the stock market. With a interrest rate of 1.6% on my CDs, I have lost some of my income. How about you Aholes. When I started my plumbing business I had a very rich man tell me, Son you can't do business with people who have no money. Don't think about and don't do it. Why, because you won't get rich. True story. Well, I didn't listen to him, I did cut my wages to help out poor people with their plumbing problems. I am not sorry.
The Troll ;D :) :yes:
The reason the interest rate on CD's decreased is because the interest banks collected on loans decreased. You can't get a high yield on CD's and also have a low interest loan from the bank it just doesn't work that way. If you are getting 1.6% interest on your CD's you have a tidy little sum deposited so don't cry to me about how broke you are. Mom just renewed her's and is getting less than 1% and I know how much she had so don't tell me I have no clue.
Your question to me is still ridiculous because I never said I didn't want to pay taxes.
My dear princess Pariann. I don't know how I missed the knife you slipped up and stuck in the Troll's back, It ran right through me where my heart used to be. You know Trolls don't have a heart.
Now Missy, if that is a picture of you, I see that we have another high maintaince blond. You know what you have when you take a group of stuck up blonds and put them ear to ear. YOU HAVE A WIND TUNNEL! ;D :yes: Well, you're on an adult unmoderated forum now. You have cut my butt and you have egged on "me" and the chicken hawk. So get your big girl panties on, if you can dish it out, you can take it. :wink: Now I will admit that I have only a high school diploma and a 4 year diploma from the Ford Motor Company and the UAW joint apprentice school in Industrail Pipefitting and Plumbing. I did good in science, chemistry, biology, economics, history, drafting, industrial arts, and math. But I DID NOT do good in English and for that, I am so sorry in so many ways and you don't count. I am a product of a bad education program. In my first 2 years of schooling, they decided that they were spending too much time teaching kids Phonics, they taught us sight reading. After 66 years I can't sound out a word worth a damn. But I am good at sight reading they taught us. Thank god for spell check. My grammer ugh, now this is just between you and me. I DON'T GIVE A DAMN WHAT YOU THINK, UGH. ;D ;D ;D Tell me, did daddy send you to college. Did you give 4 years of your life to the armed forces. Did you ever get really dirty unstopping toilets, when some princess flushed a towel down it, then used it several times and days after she did it let it ripen. Before calling me to fix it for her. Have you ever broken a nail from really working. Well, I can pipefit, plumb, I can restore old houses, fly a plane. Take my cuddycabin boat out into the Gulf of Mexico every winter and get back. I can enjoy going out to Las Vegas, and go on cruises and I did it all and paid my taxes too. So why should I care what you think. The Troll. :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: ;D P,S. Your quote. Change is a good thing. I'm ready, does that mean the clothes you bought last week are old and you need to buy new ones.
Attention: Attention" The Troll made a misstatement. The CEO of the largest insurance company in America, which I said that he pocketed $600 million in 6 years. I was wrong, I was wrong, he pocketed $600 million in 3 years not 6. Attention: :ME: and the chicken hawk.
Thought you owned your own plumbing business. Sounds more to me like you worked at GM or Guide and did plumbing on the side.
Don't know where you went to school but if you're really that old you were certainly in school for a long time because they didn't start the sight reading that far back. That wasn't started until sometime in the early 70's IIRC. I was taught phonics and so were my kids.
Quote from: The Troll on March 10, 2010, 03:24:08 PM
My dear princess Pariann. I don't know how I missed the knife you slipped up and stuck in the Troll's back, It ran right through me where my heart used to be. You know Trolls don't have a heart.
Now Missy, if that is a picture of you, I see that we have another high maintaince blond. You know what you have when you take a group of stuck up blonds and put them ear to ear. YOU HAVE A WIND TUNNEL! ;D :yes: Well, you're on an adult unmoderated forum now. You have cut my butt and you have egged on "me" and the chicken hawk. So get your big girl panties on, if you can dish it out, you can take it. :wink: Now I will admit that I have only a high school diploma and a 4 year diploma from the Ford Motor Company and the UAW joint apprentice school in Industrail Pipefitting and Plumbing. I did good in science, chemistry, biology, economics, history, drafting, industrial arts, and math. But I DID NOT do good in English and for that, I am so sorry in so many ways and you don't count. I am a product of a bad education program. In my first 2 years of schooling, they decided that they were spending too much time teaching kids Phonics, they taught us sight reading. After 66 years I can't sound out a word worth a damn. But I am good at sight reading they taught us. Thank god for spell check. My grammer ugh, now this is just between you and me. I DON'T GIVE A DAMN WHAT YOU THINK, UGH. ;D ;D ;D Tell me, did daddy send you to college. Did you give 4 years of your life to the armed forces. Did you ever get really dirty unstopping toilets, when some princess flushed a towel down it, then used it several times and days after she did it let it ripen. Before calling me to fix it for her. Have you ever broken a nail from really working. Well, I can pipefit, plumb, I can restore old houses, fly a plane. Take my cuddycabin boat out into the Gulf of Mexico every winter and get back. I can enjoy going out to Las Vegas, and go on cruises and I did it all and paid my taxes too. So why should I care what you think. The Troll. :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: ;D P,S. Your quote. Change is a good thing. I'm ready, does that mean the clothes you bought last week are old and you need to buy new ones.
Attention: Attention" The Troll made a misstatement. The CEO of the largest insurance company in America, which I said that he pocketed $600 million in 6 years. I was wrong, I was wrong, he pocketed $600 million in 3 years not 6. Attention: :ME: and the chicken hawk.
Hey Troll,
You came on here with both guns blazing and made assumptions about a lot of people here. You might do well to relax a bit and quit attacking like a bull in a china shop.
Not that we don't have some verbal donnybrooks here, but, the difference is that, at the end of the day, we respect each other because we have taken the time to get to know each other. You might try it.
Yeah, I know you call yourself The Troll. You also seem to think that by adopting that persona you are entitled to create as much verbal abuse as you can muster.
You do know, though, that it behooves you as a newcomer to try a little diplomacy in your disagreement, don't you?
No, I'm not the forum police. I just think you should show a little more respect for others.
My opinion, for what it's worth.
Take your best shot.
hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah amen! Mr. "Me" you are getting smarter and smarter. I started school in 1944 and my school for two yeas taught Sight Reading, at the the start of 1946 Sight reading was stopped, because the kids couldn't spell. Since I wasn't in the 1st and the 2nd grade but the third grade I wasn't given the change to take phonics. Did you understand that? I served two years active duty. Did you, and two years reserves. I attended all of the reserve meeting, I didn't pull a George W. and skip out. I have always played by the rules. I started my apprenticeship in 1966. Because Ford cut my pay and took all of my overtime made go to school four night a week, II need money. after two years on the apprenticeship I was smart enough to get my Indiana Plumbing Contractor Licence. How about that. Now if you think I was going to quite Ford Motor Co. to work full time and work for the public. Question: Are you NUTS? I sold, install over 150 water conditioners to Ford employees alone. I quite counting after I had sold and I stalled 400 water conditioner. I started my plumbing business in 1968. I will tell you that during Clinton times I was working at Ford 7 day a week and in a three month period I sold and installed 38 water conditioners. I still have the receipts to prove it. I would get up at 5:15AM get off at 3:30 go put in a conditioner get home at 8:30 to 10 PM. Now I did not work my plumbing full time because Ford came first I didn't do big jobs tearing out their plumbing and leaving it to go to Ford. But it paid for some really, really nice trucks. pilot training, my share in an airplane, many boats, ending with a 23 ft Cuddycabin Rinker 230 HP boat. Some cruises and a trip or two to Las Vegas. and a whole lot of really fine tools. I didn't mind work and I didn't mind paying taxes. That I why I get so mad when I hear "IT'S MY MONEY AND I WANT I NOW". ALL OF IT. By the way I worked for Ford 38 years and they treated me really good. That why I am so happy. You should see my pention and benefits. I was worth every one on those 38 years I spent at Ford. If you find an old Dunn and Bradstreet business book, you could see my company name, if you knew what it was.
So I'm awaiting for you next half Ass ass cutting. "ME" you and the chicken hawk sure are giving me good entertainment. The Troll. ;D ;D ;D :yes:
Troll - FTW is right. Sometimes...er...a lot of the time...some of us disagree on issues, but that aside the forum is full of wonderful people.
I like to disagree w/Henry and "me" on political issues because it's easy..they're normally wrong, BUT they are two of my very favorite people and you won't find anyone who is more fun or as nice as those two. It's a very different forum dynamic b/c I've participated in some where people are on the constant attack and that gets old.
Pari is a long time forum friend also. She doesn't normally get into political discussions at all, except to have some fun (at our expense) b/c we all get sloppy w/grammar, etc., from time to time. She doesn't mean it as a personal attack at all. I know that b/c I've posted w/her enough to know that she doesn't take the forum world serious and she has a very kind and gentle spirit. She enjoys herself here and I think most of us think she's fun to have around.
As for FTW, he's just special and you better not mess w/him 'cause I've got his back. :biggrin:
Seriously, welcome Troll. Give us a chance to get to know you and vice versa and I think you'll love it here as much as I do. :yes:
That was Clinton that did the skip out not Bush, Clinton was in college, Bush was a pilot in the reserves. Now slam the reserves to get at Bush and see how much they appreciate that.
It took you two years to learn plumbing code and how to lead solder a soil pipe joint????? Well, I guess in all fairness back then you did have to know how to solder copper tubing too since that was before plastic.
I'm real glad you were fortunate enough to have accumulated all that wealth and had the ability to do all you did but what you don't seem to understand is you are the people who are expected to pay the way for the less fortunate. I was not as fortunate as you and could not afford all you could and that is not your fault and you shouldn't and others who are as fortunate as you should not have to give to me or anyone else because I/we didn't have all that and don't have what you have in your retirement years. Yes, you have a duty to pay taxes for necessary things but not entitlement programs. If things are handed to people they do not appreciate them but rather expect more and take things for granted which is what I see happening. No one wants to work for anything anymore they think they are entitled just because they were born.
Quote from: The Troll on March 10, 2010, 06:12:59 PM
hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah amen! Mr. "Me" you are getting smarter and smarter. I started school in 1944 and my school for two yeas taught Sight Reading, at the the start of 1946 Sight reading was stopped, because the kids couldn't spell. Since I wasn't in the 1st and the 2nd grade but the third grade I wasn't given the change to take phonics. Did you understand that? I served two years active duty. Did you, and two years reserves. I attended all of the reserve meeting, I didn't pull a George W. and skip out. I have always played by the rules. I started my apprenticeship in 1966. Because Ford cut my pay and took all of my overtime made go to school four night a week, II need money. after two years on the apprenticeship I was smart enough to get my Indiana Plumbing Contractor Licence. How about that. Now if you think I was going to quite Ford Motor Co. to work full time and work for the public. Question: Are you NUTS? I sold, install over 150 water conditioners to Ford employees alone. I quite counting after I had sold and I stalled 400 water conditioner. I started my plumbing business in 1968. I will tell you that during Clinton times I was working at Ford 7 day a week and in a three month period I sold and installed 38 water conditioners. I still have the receipts to prove it. I would get up at 5:15AM get off at 3:30 go put in a conditioner get home at 8:30 to 10 PM. Now I did not work my plumbing full time because Ford came first I didn't do big jobs tearing out their plumbing and leaving it to go to Ford. But it paid for some really, really nice trucks. pilot training, my share in an airplane, many boats, ending with a 23 ft Cuddycabin Rinker 230 HP boat. Some cruises and a trip or two to Las Vegas. and a whole lot of really fine tools. I didn't mind work and I didn't mind paying taxes. That I why I get so mad when I hear "IT'S MY MONEY AND I WANT I NOW". ALL OF IT. By the way I worked for Ford 38 years and they treated me really good. That why I am so happy. You should see my pention and benefits. I was worth every one on those 38 years I spent at Ford. If you find an old Dunn and Bradstreet business book, you could see my company name, if you knew what it was.
So I'm awaiting for you next half Ass ass cutting. "ME" you and the chicken hawk sure are giving me good entertainment. The Troll. ;D ;D ;D :yes:
Hey Troll I just read Sandy's post because she was posting at the same time I was. I'm sure you had read down through the threads before you posted and read where we were going at it pretty hard at each other but, like Sandy said, some of us disagree on things and Henry and I are usually right, :razz: @ Sandy but we are buddy's in other parts of the forum. Please get to know us in other parts of the forum and let us get to know you too. We aren't argumentative all of the time and actually have fun. Come on over to the moderated side and relax and have some fun. :yes:
:smitten: Dear FTW and Sandy, I am new at this game. When I came in on this forum I asked 15 very simple questions, not hard and questions you don't have to be a genius to answer. And I get all of these smart ass remarks and backstabbings, egging others to do her dirty work. Make nasty remarks about my grammar UGH. I know it is, at my age it is to late to learn it. But does she get by with it , just because she a female, she gets to hit me below the belt. I don't thing so.
Here comes the the blessed peace makers trying to calm everthing. I ask a question and I get a question. I get something like "I don't need to prove anything to you", "Anyone with common sense knows you're wrong." No information, no answers. Just dumb smart ass remarks. Like one minute, I never had a business. I did have a legal state licenced business. If you are at a 15% tax rate you get "Why you ain't you paying more, because your a big plumbing contractor" or "Oh you sound like somebody that work for GM and part time." Like that's bad. :rant:
I am willing to carry a decent conversation if someone returns it. But I worked with some real tough and hard working men, if you weren't willing to get tough, back, they would eat you up. I have work for so real stupid authority figures who was always trying to take advantage of you. People you had to take to small court to collect your money. Show me authority figure and I will show you a lier. If they didn't lie they wouldn't have the job they had. They would rather lye to you than tell the truth.
Treat me with some respect and I'll give you respect. But I will tell you, I really like to take the gloves off when I am dealing with "ME(dude) and Henry the chicken hawk. Their just like having a George 42 doll. Pull the string and you get, "No new taxes" No matter how many times you pull it, it still comes "No new taxes.
Mr. FTW, they did a actual experiment and they taped it. They put a Mexican fighting bull in a china store and turned him loose. He came in, walked down every isle, walked out never breaking a thing. May I should be "The Bull" instead of "The Troll". I saw it and I believe it. So coming in like a bull into a china store may be overrated. :) :yes:
You know, I fell on glare ice a year and half ago breaking two ribs and really, really screwing up my back and can't do a lot thing I use to do. But I found this forum and I am really enjoying fighting with "ME" and the chicken hawk, their so easy and have little blond dogie biting at the big Troll heels. Yap, Yap, yap! What fun. ;D :yes: It to bad that some People can dish it out and not take it.
May you live as long as you want and not want as long as you live. The Troll :smitten:
Quote from: me on March 10, 2010, 06:43:30 PM
That was Clinton that did the skip out not Bush, Clinton was in college, Bush was a pilot in the reserves.
No, that was Bush. And he wasn't in the reserve. He was in the Texas National Guard. And ...
the payment and retirement records the White House handed out three days prior to Calhoun's claims show that Bush received no pay or attendance credits from April until the end of October 1972.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_military_service_controversy#Drill_attendance_in_1972_and_1973
I believe that adds up to a six month "skip-out." Remember, I always check.
Mr. "Me" I am sorry thing didn't turn out as good as it did for me. I sure had some good luck, I had no one pulling the string for me and really I don't like to brag about it. I do have some friend who didn't get the breaks. When someone goes after me, I fight back and I fight to win. Loosing just plain sucks. My son had some really bad luck with his wife getting sick without insurance. It will cost me a little more in taxes. But, believe me, I want everyone in this country to be able to get some medical care and not go bankrupt, like my son. I am going to save his home. So help me god. The Troll. What I like to say to people I am beginning to like. May you live as long as you want and may you not want as long as you live. Good Luck on your travels through the universe. :yes:
Mr "ME" Clinton did the same thing a Cheney and a whole lot of college men did and some ran for the Canada boarder. George W. Bush an Officer, jet pilot in the reserves went AWOL from his reserve unit. If I had did it, I would have went back into the regular army on the ground in Nam. George W. should have been sent to Nam and spent some combat jet flying. The Troll. :rant:
The Troll posted:
"Mr. FTW, they did a actual experiment and they taped it. They put a Mexican fighting bull in a china store and turned him loose. He came in, walked down every isle, walked out never breaking a thing. May I should be "The Bull" instead of "The Troll". I saw it and I believe it. So coming in like a bull into a china store may be overrated. "
First of all, I've seen the tape. And your reference to it in trying a "one-upmanship" game falls flat. The analogy (more precisely a simile) is just that: an analogy, not a truism. Your attempt to deflect is simply a weak defense of a position you know is untenable.
Secondly, that "I'm an old guy (especially one who has suffered an injury), so I get some deference" ploy isn't going to fly, either. I don't know about others here, but I'm about the same age as you, and none of us has even mentioned personal circumstances in seeking the sympathy vote.
What you have been through in life is unique to you, but hardly unique to the world. Your "When someone goes after me, I fight back and I fight to win" attitude is simply an overreaction to a FORUM. Verbal wordplay here is absolutely no threat to you in real life; it is simply a perception based on over-sensitivity.
Breathe deeply, count your blessings, and try some diplomacy.
Did I get you right. The Texas national guard and after you sign a contract with them you can just walk away. From what I heard, you better not try that with the Indiana National Guard. Break your contract, Full time regular army duty.
Dear Mr. Wolfie, your big over blown words are nothing but gas, gas and more gas. Do you possibly think I really care what you are thinking and I want your sympathy and I need your preaching servitude. Give me a break. You really sound like your one of those people who think the world in only 4000 years old.
I am a old guy, I have gone about every thing a man can do, but go to prison and get super-rich. If I would pass away today I can say I have never cheated anyone and I never mistreated a person that did not deserve it. I would have wished I had told off more over educated people that they were full of B.S. :yes: ;)
I am sorry, I thought when you were entered this site, that you were the peace maker. The devil comes in many forms doesn't he, Mr. Wolfie. ;)
After I heard you pass all of that gas. I really don't care if I debate with you again. I really like to talk to someone who you can talk to. Not someone who like to talk over a person, like you are better that them or everyone else in the universe. The Troll.
Oddly enough, normally I'm not the peacemaker :biggrin:
But I do love my forum buds and I love the Zone. Mainly because the constant rough and tumble lost it's appeal and this place was welcoming and a relaxed place to express myself without people making assumptions about my character based on my difference of opinion (nutshell). For that reason, I feel protective of those who have been so kind to me despite the fact that I don't always deserve it.
Having said that, let's see how the National Guard discussion goes :biggrin:
Let me set something straight here. I am not a Mr. me I'm a Ms. me and I'm close to your age and not nearly as lucky financially as you have been. Did I have missed opportunities, yes I did, but I'm not crying over spilled milk now I'm just doing what I can and making the best of what I have. I've had the things that made me happy and it didn't happen to include wealth but rather spending time with my family and trying to save for retirement which, due to the economy, went by the wayside last year. The tax breaks which Bush enacted did help me and if you check you'll find they helped you too.
I'm not here to fight but to give my opinion which I did. You asked a question and got an answer then you wanted to argue about it. I gave an answer one way, with a link and Henry gave it another with the figures. I did not "go after you" that is not my style.
To me this whole thing isn't a Republican vs. Democrat thing because when it comes down to it there are good and bad on both sides. At this point I don't care about what Bush did or didn't do it's what's going on now and what congress is trying to do to us and most has little to even do with Obama unless he starts the Executive order thing to by pass congress even voting on things. To me that pass it and then find out what's in it deal Nancy Pelosi said about the health care bill indicates there's something in there that isn't a good thing.
Quote from: The Troll on March 10, 2010, 08:02:04 PM
Mr. "Me" I am sorry thing didn't turn out as good as it did for me. I sure had some good luck, I had no one pulling the string for me and really I don't like to brag about it. I do have some friend who didn't get the breaks. When someone goes after me, I fight back and I fight to win. Loosing just plain sucks. My son had some really bad luck with his wife getting sick without insurance. It will cost me a little more in taxes. But, believe me, I want everyone in this country to be able to get some medical care and not go bankrupt, like my son. I am going to save his home. So help me god. The Troll. What I like to say to people I am beginning to like. May you live as long as you want and may you not want as long as you live. Good Luck on your travels through the universe. :yes:
Ok, National Guard but at least he served and Clinton attended college so he wouldn't have to serve at all. If it comes right down to it I have no clue why Troll even brought that up because it had nothing to do with anything other than being a bash Bush statement.
Quote from: LOsborne on March 10, 2010, 07:59:37 PM
No, that was Bush. And he wasn't in the reserve. He was in the Texas National Guard. And ...
the payment and retirement records the White House handed out three days prior to Calhoun's claims show that Bush received no pay or attendance credits from April until the end of October 1972.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_military_service_controversy#Drill_attendance_in_1972_and_1973
I believe that adds up to a six month "skip-out." Remember, I always check.
You know.....I have been judged by my avatar!! Isn't that a hoot. I'm a high maintenance blonde. I never knew!! Wonder if my 7 daughters that I've spent nearly 30 years raising (and of course THAT'S not work) think I'm high maintenance.
The Troll won't last long here if he doesn't learn how to interact with the 'established' community that already exists.
Quote from: me on March 10, 2010, 09:05:07 PM
Ok, National Guard but at least he served and Clinton attended college so he wouldn't have to serve at all. If it comes right down to it I have no clue why Troll even brought that up because it had nothing to do with anything other than being a bash Bush statement.
Did he
really serve? You may want to research that a little. :yes:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on March 10, 2010, 09:13:41 PM
Did he really serve? You may want to research that a little. :yes:
No he didn't serve he deserted just like they reported on CBS news. His dad bought and paid for his honorable discharge and he was playing golf and drinkin' the whole 6yrs. Hell he probably didn't even really go to college either.
CLUE
"Troll" is apparently literal, so unless you want to be hooked stop coming to the chum line! :biggrin:
To The Troll himself: Be careful making assumptions surrounding your quarry. As it stands now you are batting well below 500. The suggestions you've received are good ones. . .
I like your style thus far though, and you ask the right questions of the right people. Your expectations may be a little too high though; I've been trying to get some of those same answers for years now! :wink:
Wolfie: Breath man. . . :smile: And I deeply admire your intentions herein. You are one stand up guy! :yes: 8)
Sandy is a stand up gal too. :biggrin:
Quote from: pariann on March 10, 2010, 09:30:37 PM
Sandy is a stand up gal too. :biggrin:
I'd have said that but didn't want to fuel any further speculation or rumors of impropriety! :icon_twisted: :biggrin:
There are rumors? What have I been missing during my 'non-posting' period?
Quote from: pariann on March 10, 2010, 09:49:39 PM
There are rumors? What have I been missing during my 'non-posting' period?
Hell this forum's chock full of them! You may want to engage in a little "light reading" while your wrestle insomnia! :wink: :biggrin:
Quote from: pariann on March 10, 2010, 09:49:39 PM
There are rumors? What have I been missing during my 'non-posting' period?
I've been sworn to secrecy. :lipsrsealed2:
Quote from: Palehorse on March 10, 2010, 09:51:29 PM
Hell this forum's chock full of them! You may want to engage in a little "light reading" while your wrestle insomnia! :wink: :biggrin:
Well maybe I will, IF I wake up when Brent leaves to go deliver those papers. Which I seem to do a lot here lately. It's not so much insomnia as an out of sync sleeping pattern these days. I blame the Republicans. :wink:
Quote from: me on March 10, 2010, 09:53:00 PM
I've been sworn to secrecy. :lipsrsealed2:
Hmmmm......where did I put your phone number? :razz:
Laryngitis.......can't talk :biggrin:
:pop:
We know how to hijack a thread...huh??
Quote from: me on March 10, 2010, 09:53:00 PM
I've been sworn to secrecy. :lipsrsealed2:
Republican secrecy no doubt! :angel:
Yep that's 'zakly it and ya ain't even gonna water board it outta me. :razz: Hey pass the popcorn will ya Sandy?
Quote from: Palehorse on March 10, 2010, 10:06:05 PM
Republican secrecy no doubt! :angel:
If that's the case then it'll all come out when she gets a DUI after leaving a gay bar. :biggrin:
:spooked:
Quote from: me on March 10, 2010, 10:09:28 PM
Yep that's 'zakly it and ya ain't even gonna water board it outta me. :razz: Hey pass the popcorn will ya Sandy?
LMAO!
Oops! forgot about the waterboard ;D
Here you go... :party: you deserve a big bucket of popcorn ;D
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on March 10, 2010, 10:10:22 PM
If that's the case then it'll all come out when she gets a DUI after leaving a gay bar. :biggrin:
:food24: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
This thread just went to hell. LOL
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on March 10, 2010, 10:12:59 PM
LMAO!
Oops! forgot about the waterboard ;D
Here you go... :party: you deserve a big bucket of popcorn ;D
Thanks Sandy....
Quote from: pariann on March 10, 2010, 10:21:28 PM
This thread just went to hell. LOL
Just "went" to hell? It's about political parties and is that not THE definition of hell materialized? :biggrin:
Dear Mrs. Pariann, I hope its Mrs. You say that the Troll won't won't last long in this "established community". Is this forum a "Click"? You are going to shun me for telling the truth and standing up for the American way
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I guess that picture is not of you or a very, very old picture. :o 7 kids, 30 years in raising them that makes you 44 years old. If it is a fairly new one. WOW! Who is your chemist. :laugh: ;)
I am 48, and that is a picture of me...and it's only 3 years old. I've actually had 9 kids, just to keep the record straight. I am NOT a Mrs. Though I still carry the title. There is no chemist....I'm just high maintenance.
No this forum is not a click (clique), but it IS an established community. Like any community we welcome new people...but if you actually troll, you may well not enjoy your time here.
Your truth isn't necessarily THE truth. But of course as an old man, you are too set in your idea of what the truth is to be able to change now.
For the people who said Clinton dodge the draft. He did like Cheney with 8 deferments, he used 1 deferment got an education and became the Commander in Chief of all the armed forces. Salute Solider! 8)
Quote from: The Troll on March 10, 2010, 10:53:39 PM
Dear Mrs. Pariann, I hope its Mrs. You say that the Troll won't won't last long in this "established community". Is this forum a "Click"? You are going to shun me for telling the truth and standing up for the American way
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I guess that picture is not of you or a very, very old picture. :o 7 kids, 30 years in raising them that makes you 44 years old. If it is a fairly new one. WOW! Who is your chemist. :laugh: ;)
No, not a "click" - just a group of folks that have posted together for a very long time; and in that time we have got to know one another fairly well. That is not to say we agree on anything because the fact is this forum and its membership is a fairly accurate microcosm of American society and politics; and you will find we rarely agree on anything.
Some of the folks on here are open to considering different ideas and perspectives, some are good at providing empirical proof to support their positions, and still others wouldn't know empirical proof if it walked right up and bit them in the ass, and steadfastly refuse to even consider anything other than their views.
Cross sabers with whomever you like, but be careful in letting false assumptions cloud your view of others and their abilities . If you bark too loudly expect to be barked at, but nobody is going to exclude anyone from participating in dialog or heated discussions on topics they may disagree upon. We all do it and sometimes daily.
The folks here are seasoned vets in forum land, and perhaps if you just took some time to read a little of what they have to say you might better understand what their positions are as well as who they are. But if you jump out of the gate with fangs slashing a lot of them may take offense to it simply because they have not had the opportunity to get to know you yet.
If you have not read this yet, here's a link to something I've written and the related discussions. It might give you a better idea surrounding where I am coming from:
http://theunknownzone.us/smf/index.php?topic=13389.0 (http://theunknownzone.us/smf/index.php?topic=13389.0)
And another:
http://theunknownzone.us/smf/index.php?topic=13555.0 (http://theunknownzone.us/smf/index.php?topic=13555.0)
And another:
http://theunknownzone.us/smf/index.php?topic=15663.0 (http://theunknownzone.us/smf/index.php?topic=15663.0)
And finally:
http://theunknownzone.us/smf/index.php?topic=1656.0 (http://theunknownzone.us/smf/index.php?topic=1656.0)
There are all types out here and most of us have seen them all, so when a screen name starts flaming and engages in personal attacks right out of the gate without benefit of having had the time to acclimate, it sends a pretty clear signal that the individual's probably up to nothing good. I am not saying that you are, just trying to tell you how some of the folks here may be perceiving you.
Nothing wrong with an aggressive style, I suffer from the same thing myself. But don't jump to conclusions so quickly, or you'll just detract from your credibility in the end.
Example: Yes, that is Pari and it is an accurate representation of her when I last saw her face-to-face just a few months ago. Pari's a pretty easy going person who can be considered as suffering from OCD when it comes to spelling and grammar. It's her thing and she writes, so put on that rhino hide and prepare to endure it. (Or toss snide replies back at her if you like. But don't let that pretty woman fool you, she's smart as a whip on certain subjects and much like you is not shy about asking the right questions and expecting answers along with the proof). Your comment about her being "high maintenance" is so ironic to me. I cannot explain why because to do so would be to reveal personal aspects surrounding someone who is not only a friend in cyber space, but one I consider a friend in real life as well. She is one of maybe 2 or 3 people on here who I have actually met in real life.
So while we are not what I would call a clique, we've been around each other long enough to "get our backs up" when a newbie starts trying to throw his/her weight around prematurely. Then whatever differences we may have disappear and we will staunchly defend our brothers and sisters without reservation.
And all you need do to receive this same benefit is just take some of the suggestions these kind folks have put out there and implement them. You've already encountered one of us who take the scientific approach when it comes to supporting a statement, opinion, or perspective. There a several others and they will be just as demanding as you appear to be when it comes to obtaining answers. It should make for a very interesting set of conversations once we've all had the time to get to know you and you to know us.
IMHO this group welcomes opposing perspectives and opinions. And like society some of us are open to those views and some aren't. But if you are sincere it will come through within your posts and folks will see it. And that will earn you the respect of the membership here, whether we agree with you or not.
You put it out there quite well, PH. I personally, even with rhino hide, have taken offense to how quickly he jumped on one line I wrote and certainly take offense to being called high maintenance. If the troll should ever gain access to my personal area, and actually takes the time to read about me, he will be most surprised at how wrong his knee jerk reaction was.
Dearest Pariann, read Palehorse piece about you. He says that you are very smart. I don't doubt that. I really like and enjoy smart and intelligent women, I married one. Duhh, I do dah hard work and she took dah money, dah whole control of me and dats why i live pretty good now.
He also says your a "nut" par-don-aaa dar i go using wrong spellling and dah grammar. Stickler on spelling, bad grammar, sintax and so on and I have big hands and big fingers, from using big tools, I have an oversized key board and still don't type very good. If you're going to read my stuff, that's what you are going to get. Suggestion: Either take me with a grain of salt or get out your brass knuckles and join the battle or do what little yappy dogs do. Yap and bite at the paws of big dogs. I am not about to tie both arms behind my back and let a smart woman beat the hell out of me.
Question: What is your meaning of a Troll and I don't mean Dick Cheney.
Question: Clique, dah, dats a french word for click, ain't it.
The Troll :smitten: :smitten: ;D :yes:
And you, The Troll, just go with the flow when I point out grammar and spelling errors that I want to poke at. It's all in good fun, and in no way diminishes any intelligence you may have. I do it to everyone, it's just my thing. One day I just may take a whole post of yours and red pen it. It's just fun........smile and move on if I do it.
Quote from: pariann on March 11, 2010, 07:41:46 AM
It's just fun........
:clap: :clap: :clap:
And that's the whole point, isn't it?
:smitten: :smitten:
Quote; I laughed when I saw a man with one arm. When I lost one, I laughed no more.
Quote from: pariann on March 10, 2010, 11:03:06 PM
I am 48, and that is a picture of me...and it's only 3 years old. I've actually had 9 kids, just to keep the record straight. I am NOT a Mrs. Though I still carry the title. There is no chemist....I'm just high maintenance.
No this forum is not a click (clique), but it IS an established community. Like any community we welcome new people...but if you actually troll, you may well not enjoy your time here.
Your truth isn't necessarily THE truth. But of course as an old man, you are too set in your idea of what the truth is to be able to change now.
Hey now, watch that "old man" "too set in your idea of what the truth is" stuff!!
:smile: :smile:
You know I feel like the mouse in the cartoon, he's in a trap with the bar over the back of his neck, with all the so called good mice lined up behind him going to "do" him. while he is down and out.
It reminds of two old piperfitters that I worked with. Kenny and Edgar. They were working 12 hour shifts in the same department. So this day I was working with Kenny and I asked about his 12 hour shift. Kenny said it plain hell. That damn Edgar isn't doing a thing and I am having to carry the whole damn department by myself. "He is the laziest sonuvabitch I have ever seen." Just then a machine repairman walked and said that he had seen Edgar hiding and sleeping during his shift. The repairman said. "He the sonuvabitch I have seen". Kenny stood straight got in his face and Said "Look buddy, you don't call Edgar a sonuvabitch bitch or I'll wrap a 18 inch pipewrench around your head" The repairman stepped back and said sorry and he walked away.
I said Kenny you just got through calling Edgar a sonuvabitch -bitch and you go off on that guy. Why. Kenny looked at like I was half bright and said. Edgar is "our" sonuvabitch and he can't say anything about him. Could this be happening to me. :angel: :angel: :yes: The Troll
That sums it up quite nicely.
Quote from: The Troll on March 11, 2010, 10:31:32 AM
You know I feel like the mouse in the cartoon, he's in a trap with the bar over the back of his neck, with all the so called good mice lined up behind him going to "do" him. while he is down and out.
It reminds of two old piperfitters that I worked with. Kenny and Edgar. They were working 12 hour shifts in the same department. So this day I was working with Kenny and I asked about his 12 hour shift. Kenny said it plain hell. That damn Edgar isn't doing a thing and I am having to carry the whole damn department by myself. "He is the laziest sonuvabitch I have ever seen." Just then a machine repairman walked and said that he had seen Edgar hiding and sleeping during his shift. The repairman said. "He the sonuvabitch I have seen". Kenny stood straight got in his face and Said "Look buddy, you don't call Edgar a sonuvabitch bitch or I'll wrap a 18 inch pipewrench around your head" The repairman stepped back and said sorry and he walked away.
I said Kenny you just got through calling Edgar a sonuvabitch -bitch and you go off on that guy. Why. Kenny looked at like I was half bright and said. Edgar is "our" sonuvabitch and he can't say anything about him. Could this be happening to me. :angel: :angel: :yes: The Troll
Could be but the thing is if ya hang around and get to know us we would do the same for you. We don't argue as in fight to see who comes out on top we discuss, sometimes rather heatedly I'll have to admit, to try to get our points of view across.
Troll,
I feel just like that mouse you describe on here many times... ;D
It is all good here, even though you and I may never agree on ONE issue, I will read what you have to say and will usually respond, if you don't get to cranky with me... ;) :)
Quote from: me on March 11, 2010, 11:16:26 AM
Could be but the thing is if ya hang around and get to know us we would do the same for you. We don't argue as in fight to see who comes out on top we discuss, sometimes rather heatedly I'll have to admit, to try to get our points of view across.
Very true. It hasn't been all that long ago that I was a newbie here. I'm very happy that the group here has accepted me as a family member, even though I haven't always been the nicest of persons.
oh since when have you never been nice?
I've been sharing that bench with you for so long, I can't even remember when you were a newbie.
Quote from: pariann on March 11, 2010, 12:08:25 PM
oh since when have you never been nice?
I've been sharing that bench with you for so long, I can't even remember when you were a newbie.
Ahhhhhh.....yes, the bench! :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
Well .... There is at least one (probably more) here who would think that at times, I have been a bastard.
As far as the newbie comment ....
More then 35 years ago, I married into a "old-line" family in Southern Maryland. I was new to the area, and even though I married into the family, I was still regarded as somewhat of an outsider. Some family members still think that way.
How long have I been here? I think a little over three years.
Quote from: Olias on March 11, 2010, 12:33:47 PM
Well .... There is at least one (probably more) here who would think that at times, I have been a bastard.
ahh, but you are OUR bastard.... ;D :yes: :biggrin:
No wonder I don't remember you being a newbie. I registered on the 'new' site one day before you did. LOL
Of course I was a member of the Zone before that, when it was being hosted on another server.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 11, 2010, 12:46:06 PM
ahh, but you are OUR bastard.... ;D :yes: :biggrin:
ROFL Henry......THAT'S RIGHT!!!!
A bastard?
Geez, unali, here I thought your parents were married before you were born. :biggrin:
Quote from: followsthewolf on March 11, 2010, 12:53:39 PM
A bastard?
Geez, unali, here I thought your parents were married before you were born. :biggrin:
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 11, 2010, 12:46:06 PM
ahh, but you are OUR bastard.... ;D :yes: :biggrin:
Why, thank you, Henry! I didn't know you cared so much about me!
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Awwwww it's a love-fest Zone style. ;D
Let's all sing Kumbayah :biggrin:
Group hug :hug:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on March 11, 2010, 01:24:28 PM
Awwwww it's a love-fest Zone style. ;D
Let's all sing Kumbayah :biggrin:
Group hug :hug:
Only until Maryland plays Duke! :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:
That's SO wrong on any level! :mad: :biggrin:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on March 11, 2010, 01:24:28 PM
Awwwww it's a love-fest Zone style. ;D
Let's all sing Kumbayah :biggrin:
Group hug :hug:
Me too me too.......... :hug:
Quote from: Olias on March 11, 2010, 01:26:29 PM
Only until Maryland plays Duke! :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:
Am I gonna have to give you two a time out and sit ya in a corner? >:(
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on March 11, 2010, 01:27:36 PM
That's SO wrong on any level! :mad: :biggrin:
(http://blogs.citypages.com/sports/fear%20the%20turtle.jpg)
Think I'll just go back to drinkin' my coffee and readin' my book now. :coffee: 8)
That sounds like a great idea. Unfortunately I have some work to do. UGH......god help me if I happen to break a fingernail. :eek:
Hey, guys I'm a borderline diabetic and all of this sugar and sweetness is driving me to my doctor for insulin shots. I got something I want to ask Ms."Me" and this might be like what a friend did when we were kids.
We were out in the woods one day and we came across of a large Baldface hornet nest. It was the largest nest we had ever seen and it was only 5 feet from the ground.
Bubbles, my friend said let's get that nest. I said, bubbles those hornets will chew us up. :no: No said Bubbles I'll take this corn cob and push it in the bottom hole, we will take it home and put some gasoline on it, kill the hornets and we will take it to school. :yes:
Well, Bubbles crept ;) up on the nest and crammed the cob into the hole. :eek: Not knowing that these nest's have five or six hidden openings in the sides of the nest. You never saw such a cloud of angry hornets :rant: come swarming out of that nest and covering Bubbles. I swear I had never seen Bubbles scream so loudly and run so fast, there was a five foot fence between him and a corn field. He cleared the fence, I swear by at least three feet. I think the corn field saved him from death or the hospital. No more Hornet hunting for Bubbles. :angel: :angel: :angel: So we will see what happens with Ms. "ME" and the Troll ;D :yes:
I think the corn field saved him from death of the hospital. The hornest really ate him up.
Dude! Trust me on this! Sugar and sweetness is rare around here. I think you're safe.
:icon_twisted:
You're definitely safe Troll. When you get into the normal flow of things you'll find that Henry Hawk and me are the ones getting pounced on, even though we're right most of the time, because we have different opinions on things from most of the rest.
Senility Prayer. Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway. The good fortune to run into the ones I do and the eyesight of tell the difference. Somebody say amen!
amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wink: ;D
Troll might be your name, but it's Henry and "me's" game :biggrin:
Quote from: me on March 11, 2010, 04:50:57 PM
You're definitely safe Troll. When you get into the normal flow of things you'll find that Henry Hawk and me are the ones getting pounced on, even though we're right most of the time, because we have different opinions on things from most of the rest.
:bsflag:
:icon_twisted:
You guys start sucking face a swapping spit and I am out of here. WTF is going on around here? Next thing you know you will be "sexting" one another or something! :spooked: :spooked: :spooked: :spooked:
Who says we aren't already?
Quote from: Palehorse on March 11, 2010, 06:38:11 PM
You guys start sucking face a swapping spit and I am out of here. WTF is going on around here? Next thing you know you will be "sexting" one another or something! :spooked: :spooked: :spooked: :spooked:
eeewwwww
I'm having an urge to sanitize my screen :spooked:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on March 11, 2010, 07:47:08 PM
I'm having an urge to sanitize my screen :spooked:
I already did..... :razz:
Hi guys been gone today. Had some friends drop by and I took them up to the Hoosier Park Casino for the buffet. Three of the party played the slots, I played the Blackjack. I just don't like electronic Blackjack tables. I think they can be fixed and I think they are. I never see anyone win at the table when I am there. I have won and seen a lot of winning at French Lick and at the Hard Rock Casino in Tampa where they have a live dealers. To day the table dealt it's self in 10 hands, 4 Blackjacks (21), 2 (21) 1 (20) 1 (19) 1(18) and busted (1) I just got up from the table and found some where where you are not supposed to win at all. Slots. :rant: >:(
I am now trying to compose a Post for "ME" and the Chicken Hawk, the hawk that never gets Foghorn Rooster.
But they remind me a old, old joke. This kid found a fresh pile or rabbit turds. He pick one up and it was so round and a dark brownish, green in color. He thought they were neat. So he put them in a match box and was on his way home. A friend seen his match box and said, what you got in the box. The kid said, Smart Pills. Let me see one, so he took one and all of a sudden he put it in his mouth. The boy said, Hey, these pill taste like shit, which he replied, see you're smarter already. Well, George W. has been feeding this pills to ME and Henry and they think their are candy and tax cuts. ;D ;) :o The Troll. :biggrin:
It just amazes me that people don't/didn't realize there was less being taken from them for taxes after the Bush tax cut. I guess they'll get a sharp reminder come next year when the tax cuts fall off.
Me, Tell me where I got so much extra back for taxes. I went to my CPA this afternoon and got my tax returns, which he had emailed in. He said he could find anything outstanding for us. We don't have kids for the extra $1000 for being in school. We don't have to worry about estate taxes for the first $1,000,000 (million) is tax free for my kid. My wife don't have to pay taxes on any thing, we whole everything joint. My son will be lucky to get enough to bury me. My tax rate is the same, 15%. Do you get an extra check for being as damn poor as you say you are. I'll bet you are one of those old women who bury your gold. :razz: ;D :yes:
Tell me what tax breaks did you get that I didn't Aren't you glad you got Democrat Social Security and Medicare. How much did you doctor and hospital bill cost you. Hummmmmm. :rolleyes: :eek: You really don't know who really buttered your bread. :razz: :razz: The Troll
I know who's trying to take the bread and butter away from me though. :razz:
As Reagan said to George 42, "there you go, again, George! :no: The Troll must say again, there you go again "ME" with your Voo Doo economics, you won't answer or can't answer the questions. WHAT TAX CUTS did us old guys get, who are over 65 years old? Duh Troll wants to know. :confused: :'( The Troll.
You know I work so hard trying not to make typographical mistakes. Fearing that the disillusioned English and grammar teacher, hidding as an high maintanace blond with 9 kids will swoop down with her steel edge 12 inch ruler and break my typing finger. With her not fearing kryptonite, my only defense is to show her a broken fingernail, which she will break down into a puddle of tears. Only to return the next day to fight again. For good spelling, grammar and the American way. :razz: :razz: :smitten: This this forum is like a comic book of super heroes. ;D :yes: more on this later.
I laid it all out in one of the threads and I'll hunt for it later but this morning I have some things I have to get done so I can't look at the moment.
I could care less about your spelling or grammar because mine isn't so good either and in my eyes it isn't a mark of a persons intelligence, most men can't spell worth a darn but are good at math.
You have a great day and I'll, once again, show you how that trickle down theory works and why the trickle up one the dem's seem to be so fond of doesn't.
Some people are just too sensitive.
Quote from: The Troll on March 12, 2010, 06:18:40 AM
As Reagan said to George 42, "there you go, again, George! :no: The Troll must say again, there you go again "ME" with your Voo Doo economics, you won't answer or can't answer the questions. WHAT TAX CUTS did us old guys get, who are over 65 years old? Duh Troll wants to know. :confused: :'( The Troll.
You know I work so hard trying not to make typographical mistakes. Fearing that the disillusioned English and grammar teacher, hidding as an high maintanace blond with 9 kids will swoop down with her steel edge 12 inch ruler and break my typing finger. With her not fearing kryptonite, my only defense is to show her a broken fingernail, which she will break down into a puddle of tears. Only to return the next day to fight again. For good spelling, grammar and the American way. :razz: :razz: :smitten: This this forum is like a comic book of super heroes. ;D :yes: more on this later.
Dems took over the purse strings in 2006 and that's when the train went off the tracks completely.
Quote from: The Troll on March 12, 2010, 12:12:29 AM
Me, Tell me where I got so much extra back for taxes. I went to my CPA this afternoon and got my tax returns, which he had emailed in. He said he could find anything outstanding for us. We don't have kids for the extra $1000 for being in school. We don't have to worry about estate taxes for the first $1,000,000 (million) is tax free for my kid. My wife don't have to pay taxes on any thing, we whole everything joint. My son will be lucky to get enough to bury me. My tax rate is the same, 15%. Do you get an extra check for being as damn poor as you say you are. I'll bet you are one of those old women who bury your gold. :razz: ;D :yes:
Tell me what tax breaks did you get that I didn't Aren't you glad you got Democrat Social Security and Medicare. How much did you doctor and hospital bill cost you. Hummmmmm. :rolleyes: :eek: You really don't know who really buttered your bread. :razz: :razz: The Troll
The deficits were caused by SPENDING INCREASES. The cuts are not to blame, the spending is.
If a person spends more than they make, is it more logical to tell them to spend less, or to increase their income?
Clinton cut taxes too, on capital gains, in 1997. Why was that tax cut good? If Bush had done the same type of tax cut, wouldn't that be a good tax cut?
Clinton also bombed Iraq in 1998 on account of Saddam's WMD programs, but I digress.....
Plus, Obama's deficits dwarf Bush's. I look forward to your condemnation of his massive deficits that are far, far larger than Bush's.
Quote from: The Troll on March 12, 2010, 06:18:40 AM
This this forum is like a comic book of super heroes. ;D :yes: more on this later.
Maybe so. But you must admit it's a pretty good comic book.
I like that!
Maybe we should start a new thread? What superhero are you? What superhero is your fellow forum member?
I am RUMOR MAN!!!!! I swoop in with my deadly Snopes tool and reveal those e-mails to be the lies that they are!!!!!
Grapes in England!? Indeed!
:icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:
Ohhh Ohhh I love it!
Who would I be? I'm not very creative....please let it be someone cool! :biggrin:
Quote from: Olias on March 12, 2010, 09:44:35 AM
Maybe so. But you must admit it's a pretty good comic book.
I like that!
Maybe we should start a new thread? What superhero are you? What superhero is your fellow forum member?
I am RUMOR MAN!!!!! I swoop in with my deadly Snopes tool and reveal those e-mails to be the lies that they are!!!!!
Grapes in England!? Indeed!
:icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:
This is not the first time, but once again, I just shot Mt. Dew RIGHT out my nose!!!...THAT was a good one O!!.. ;D ;D
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on March 12, 2010, 09:58:51 AM
Ohhh Ohhh I love it!
Who would I be? I'm not very creative....please let it be someone cool! :biggrin:
Have a few more shots of Jameson! You'd be surprised how creative you can be! :biggrin:
Quote from: Olias on March 12, 2010, 09:44:35 AM
Maybe so. But you must admit it's a pretty good comic book.
I like that!
Maybe we should start a new thread? What superhero are you? What superhero is your fellow forum member?
I am RUMOR MAN!!!!! I swoop in with my deadly Snopes tool and reveal those e-mails to be the lies that they are!!!!!
Grapes in England!? Indeed!
:icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:
Hey gimmie a break I've learned to check things out since then >:(
Quote from: The Troll on March 12, 2010, 12:12:29 AM
Me, Tell me where I got so much extra back for taxes. I went to my CPA this afternoon and got my tax returns, which he had emailed in. He said he could find anything outstanding for us. We don't have kids for the extra $1000 for being in school. We don't have to worry about estate taxes for the first $1,000,000 (million) is tax free for my kid. My wife don't have to pay taxes on any thing, we whole everything joint. My son will be lucky to get enough to bury me. My tax rate is the same, 15%. Do you get an extra check for being as damn poor as you say you are. I'll bet you are one of those old women who bury your gold. :razz: ;D :yes:
Tell me what tax breaks did you get that I didn't Aren't you glad you got Democrat Social Security and Medicare. How much did you doctor and hospital bill cost you. Hummmmmm. :rolleyes: :eek: You really don't know who really buttered your bread. :razz: :razz: The Troll
Now read down through this and you'll find what the Bush tax cut did. http://usgovinfo.about.com/cs/taxes/a/bushtaxcuts.htm
Comic book super heroes in a new topic. I wrote one for Ms. "ME" and a short one for Henry Hawk.
The one on the hawk is. When little bitte Henry eats fermented corn, he becomes a 8 ft chicken hawk, with big talons with a big hard pecker. That what I heard. :o :o :biggrin: :biggrin: :yes:
The Troll. :wink: :razz: ;D
Did you happen to check out the link I posted for you while you were here? It concerns what you asked me this morning and gets back on topic.
Quote from: The Troll on March 12, 2010, 06:13:06 PM
Comic book super heroes in a new topic. I wrote one for Ms. "ME" and a short one for Henry Hawk.
The one on the hawk is. When little bitte Henry eats fermented corn, he becomes a 8 ft chicken hawk, with big talons with a big hard pecker. That what I heard. :o :o :biggrin: :biggrin: :yes:
The Troll. :wink: :razz: ;D
From The Troll from the hole under the bridge. I got several messages from you guys, but I don't know what a "New thread means" so I started a new topic on the Bitterguys den of iniquity. "Me", I dreamed up a super hero for you on the new topic site. If you don't like it and want it changed we will get something worse. :biggrin: :yes: :smitten:
Doc, Henry, Pariann, the rest of you. Let's get this road, if Marvel Comic Magazine can have Super heroes so can we. For right now, I am The SUPER TROLL, I live in a hole under a bridge, something like the Bat Cave. I don't have a super car yet and my powers are a secret right now. I got to see what I am going to have to fight. I fight for the poor and the downtrodden :angel: :angel: and against the predatory super-rich capitalist. :mad: Freedom for the common man. If you don't do it to yourself and going to do it to you. ;) :biggrin: :yes: The troll :yes:
Yes, I am still try to get a answers out of these Republicans. I just can't get them to tell me anything on the topic: Democrats VS Republicans.
Quote from: me on March 12, 2010, 03:23:38 PM
Now read down through this and you'll find what the Bush tax cut did. http://usgovinfo.about.com/cs/taxes/a/bushtaxcuts.htm
If you will click the link in this post which is the http:// in the quote you will see information I posted. It is too long to copy and paste.
Hey, Doc I been over to another site. Trying to find a super hero of "ME" and Pariann. I am in deep research of what you said on my Super Troll computer in the Troll Hole. Will get back to you. You be betcha ;) The Troll. :smile: ;D :biggrin: