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Started by The Troll, March 05, 2010, 07:32:12 PM

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The Troll

I have asked this question to many Republicans and I have never gotten a straight answer. And here their are. Since 1948, name 5 things the Republicans have done for the common working man, the working woman, their families, and their country. If one of the answers is tax cuts and your income is less than $100,000 a year. How much money did you get back. The second group of questions is.  Since 1948 name 10 things that the Republicans done for the corporations, banks, Wall Street stock market, foreign traders and the military complex. It seem to me that it doesn't take a rocket scientist to answer these question. But believe me when I say, I can get any Republican to answer the questions. All I get is another question.
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Sandy Eggo

Welcome and good luck with that :biggrin:
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They have allowed me to keep more of my money through tax cuts so I can make the choice of where to spend my money.  They have allowed private enterprise to flourish and provide jobs.  They have kept taxes low on large businesses and corporations so they can hire and pay wages and enable other smaller businesses to furnish supplies to them to further employment opportunities.  They have kept down entitlements which encourage people to not do for themselves and places and unfair burden on those who have to fund them through their hard work.  They have done their best to keep government small and not intrude into our lives and let us decide for ourselves what we eat, drive, watch, and listen to. 
Sure there have been those who have gotten rich under the Republican way of doing things but isn't that the way it's supposed to work.  Shouldn't people be allowed to have a chance to get rich and keep what they earn?  Yes, all men are created equal but what happens through out their life does not guarantee that they stay that way.  Yes, they are equal as far as being human beings but some will always have more than others and that is the way of life and the government is not responsible for us we are responsible for ourselves and those who have more should not be expected to share with those who aren't as fortunate. 
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Sandy Eggo

Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

me

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Sandy Eggo

Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

The Troll

  I see all of the baloney of the money they have let you keep and how many jobs you have created.  Just how much money have you saved? Give me figure. How many jobs have you created? Give me a figure. You guys sure haven't created many jobs in the last 8 years have you? You say it is alright to deregulate rules  that have keep the thieves from destroying this country, like they have in the last 8 years.  You say it is alright to get rich through stealing, fraud, cheating people out of their money. Look at Bernie, he robbed from everybody and most of them "were" rich.  We had a guy telling Bush's FTC about him and they did nothing.  People like you who think they are the brightest
bulb in the pack have the right to take illegal advantage of someone else. Do you think it is right for the 10 % of the super-rich to own 90% of all the money in this country.  What you need is to move to Mexico where the rich owns everything and we get the people that were starving down there.  Your are one of those people that I would like to buy for what you are really worth to America and sell you for what you think your worth. Then I would be one of the super-rich.  The Troll

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Quote from: The Troll on March 06, 2010, 03:17:13 PM
  I see all of the baloney of the money they have let you keep and how many jobs you have created.  Just how much money have you saved? Give me figure. How many jobs have you created? Give me a figure. You guys sure haven't created many jobs in the last 8 years have you? You say it is alright to deregulate rules  that have keep the thieves from destroying this country, like they have in the last 8 years.  You say it is alright to get rich through stealing, fraud, cheating people out of their money. Look at Bernie, he robbed from everybody and most of them "were" rich.  We had a guy telling Bush's FTC about him and they did nothing.  People like you who think they are the brightest
bulb in the pack have the right to take illegal advantage of someone else. Do you think it is right for the 10 % of the super-rich to own 90% of all the money in this country.  What you need is to move to Mexico where the rich owns everything and we get the people that were starving down there.  Your are one of those people that I would like to buy for what you are really worth to America and sell you for what you think your worth. Then I would be one of the super-rich.  The Troll
What??????  Are you for real?  You can't possibly believe that tripe you're spewing.  If you happened to be lucky enough to have a business that was doing well does that mean you would gladly hand over 50% or more of your earnings to the government?  Wouldn't you move your business to a place where you could keep most of your earnings?  Which makes more sense to you?  Which one keeps people working?  Common sense should apply here ya know and you sure aren't using it.  US~high taxes/overseas~lower taxes.....duh where are the incentives?  How would that keep employment up and help us here?  Where is the government supposed to get the money to give us all those entitlements you think we deserve then?
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The Troll

  Yes, I'm for real.  Would I pay 50% of my money in taxes? Yes I would to keep this country the bastion of freedom and compassion.  Here we go again, no answers, no figures. Just more questions. Answer my first questions aren't you smart enough take a little test and tell the truth for a change.  Yes, I owned a business, for 40 years. A state licenced plumbing contractor. Would I move my business over seas so I can pay slave wages and pay  no taxes. NO, NO, NO. You must be a  very greedy person, a lamprey who wants to suck the life out of this country by not paying taxes and living of the backs of other people.  Kid you think you know it all. You were born into this world with nothing and you will leave it with nothing. Just remember you are renting the thing you worship now, for just as long as you live. Just watch a funeral procession and see how much  the guy that is leaving this world gets to take with him. Republican freedom, my ass, you guys want to stick your nose into a woman's right to do with her body  what she wants to, it's nobody's business but hers, if she gets pregnant, what she does with that pregnancy. Now just answer these 15 questions with facts and figures or do you want me and the other Democrats in this forum answer them for you, in 60 seconds.

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Quote from: The Troll on March 06, 2010, 09:50:46 PM
  Yes, I'm for real.  Would I pay 50% of my money in taxes? Yes I would to keep this country the bastion of freedom and compassion.  Here we go again, no answers, no figures. Just more questions. Answer my first questions aren't you smart enough take a little test and tell the truth for a change.  Yes, I owned a business, for 40 years. A state licenced plumbing contractor. Would I move my business over seas so I can pay slave wages and pay  no taxes. NO, NO, NO. You must be a  very greedy person, a lamprey who wants to suck the life out of this country by not paying taxes and living of the backs of other people.  Kid you think you know it all. You were born into this world with nothing and you will leave it with nothing. Just remember you are renting the thing you worship now, for just as long as you live. Just watch a funeral procession and see how much  the guy that is leaving this world gets to take with him. Republican freedom, my ass, you guys want to stick your nose into a woman's right to do with her body  what she wants to, it's nobody's business but hers, if she gets pregnant, what she does with that pregnancy. Now just answer these 15 questions with facts and figures or do you want me and the other Democrats in this forum answer them for you, in 60 seconds.
I don't mind paying taxes at all and in fact have for quite sometime but not over half of what I make that is wrong any way you look at it.  What exactly is wrong with wanting to keep money I earn?  What is it with all of you entitlement people?  Where is the incentive to even try if you are going to give over half of what you make to the government?  You and your type need to quit making people feel guilty for wanting to make a profit and like they're doing something wrong.  If this BS keeps up like it's going the whole country is going to be in the same shape that Cal is in right now.  Hell even Opera Winfrey won't reside there because the taxes there are too high.  If it doesn't work there why would it work on a larger scale for the whole country.  Do you really want the entire country to go the way of California?  You can give me hypothetical figures all day and it won't prove anything.  Look at your theory in real life.   
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The Troll

Just where do you get, I don't want a working man to make a profit.  I was a plumbing contractor for 40 years, I made a profit, I was never sued, never audited (taxes) never had any complaint to the BBB. I did not advertise, my customer did it for me. No yellow pages, too expensive, if you are a good craftsman and do quality work and a good product, you don't need the YellowPages. But I have sure worked around a lot of cheating, stealing, robbing contractors. Who used substandard material, shoddy workmanship, working under the table so they can get cheaper labor, cheating the government out of taxes and the honest skilled worker out of work. Hiring illegal aliens then cheating them. Working unlicensed plumber  to put in plumbing.  If you own a new house and could see under the drywall, you would just get sick. But here we go again, another question.  Can't "you people" Republicans (teabaggers) answer the 15 guestions I asked. Again NO ANSWERS, NO FACTS AND NO FIGURES. By chance do you know what a teabagger is? If you don't, have one of you friends that is in Porno for the answer. "You people sure know how to pick a name. Oh one more thing. "people like you" have already bet the taxman by moving all of the jobs overseas. They drove the American businesses out of business for their own greed. "Your people" have bought Washington to pass more tax breaks for you rich people and you have let the predatory corporations  drive this country into depression. "Your the people' who said "WE DON'T NEED MANUFACTURING, WE NEED TO SEND MORE PEOPLE TO COLLEGE." Now we don't have jobs and a whole lot of unemployed dumbass college educated people looking for a job that doesn't require a college education. Just look what "you people " have done to America in just the last 8 years and "you" voted for him 2 times. Enough said. Answer my questions. The Troll.

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Quote from: The Troll on March 07, 2010, 10:46:44 AM
Just where do you get, I don't want a working man to make a profit.  I was a plumbing contractor for 40 years, I made a profit, I was never sued, never audited (taxes) never had any complaint to the BBB. I did not advertise, my customer did it for me. No yellow pages, too expensive, if you are a good craftsman and do quality work and a good product, you don't need the YellowPages. But I have sure worked around a lot of cheating, stealing, robbing contractors. Who used substandard material, shoddy workmanship, working under the table so they can get cheaper labor, cheating the government out of taxes and the honest skilled worker out of work. Hiring illegal aliens then cheating them. Working unlicensed plumber  to put in plumbing.  If you own a new house and could see under the drywall, you would just get sick. But here we go again, another question.  Can't "you people" Republicans (teabaggers) answer the 15 guestions I asked. Again NO ANSWERS, NO FACTS AND NO FIGURES. By chance do you know what a teabagger is? If you don't, have one of you friends that is in Porno for the answer. "You people sure know how to pick a name. Oh one more thing. "people like you" have already bet the taxman by moving all of the jobs overseas. They drove the American businesses out of business for their own greed. "Your people" have bought Washington to pass more tax breaks for you rich people and you have let the predatory corporations  drive this country into depression. "Your the people' who said "WE DON'T NEED MANUFACTURING, WE NEED TO SEND MORE PEOPLE TO COLLEGE." Now we don't have jobs and a whole lot of unemployed dumbass college educated people looking for a job that doesn't require a college education. Just look what "you people " have done to America in just the last 8 years and "you" voted for him 2 times. Enough said. Answer my questions. The Troll.
What?  You don't even make sense.  I gave you an example of what raising taxes can do to a state, California, they are broke and getting more broke.  Don't tell me about plumbers because we have a good freind who has been in the plumbing business for over 30yrs and I know how that works and it doesn't compare to a large corporation and what I'm talking about.  And don't even start on trying to do a put down on his plumbing business because you don't even know him or anything about him. 
You keep yelling about facts and figures when all you have to do is pay attention to what's going on.  Factories closing up and leaving or cutting back on production, businesses going under, construction projects slowing down, and it is getting worse not better.  Don't give me that inherited BS either because we are in the 2nd year of Obama and the 4thyr of a democratic congress at this point.
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The Troll

  Oh my god are you stupid. I'm not knocking you plumbing buddy, he was no more affected by taxes than me. Ask him how bad the insurance company took advantage him on his liability, truck and business insurance, just because he was a plumber. Light your torch in a house and it burns down two week later and "you people" will sue him, ask if him if I'm not right. Now you want to talk about high taxes in California. Well, if you take out the 8 million to 10 million illegal aliens that are there, which you buddy George W. didn't do anything about but talk. Plus all of the millions of dollars INRON stole from them. When Phil Graham , George W's buddy deregulated the energy industry and all of the foreign goods they buy out there, remember it goes through California before it get to you. You talk about all of the entitlements. I have seen so many of "you people" who worshiped the dollar, lived high on the hog, buying the most expensive stuff, get sick, have a stroke, have accident, get caught by the IRS for cheating on their taxes, go broke, lose every you stole.  "you people" are are now on Social Security. Medicare and the government drug plan which "you Republicans" didn't fund.  Then after you have lost your health, all of you expensive stuff and "you people' have go to a nursing home you will Medicaid.  And all of these things were payed by taxes.  Oprah, give me a break, about her leaving California. Hell, California is now a low rent state for her. She moved to Hawaii, have you goggled mapped in her house. WOW.  Plus this one she has 4 or 5 more just as big and expensive. But then again, she a BILLIONAIRE, not bad for a black, woman who started as a TV reporter.  Guess what, she paid her taxes and still did it.  You don't have to steal, cheat, lie, not pay taxes to make it.  You my friend have no conscience quite frankly braindead, you sure don't make sense with your reasoning. Plus your greedy. Now come on, it ain't hard. Since 1948 how many things or laws have the Republicans passed that were good for the common man and woman.  Since 1948 how many laws have the Republicans passed for the corporations, banks, stockmarket, lobbyist, the free traders and the industrial military complex.  Hummmmmm The Troll.

Doc

Quote from: The Troll on March 06, 2010, 09:50:46 PM
  Yes, I'm for real.  Would I pay 50% of my money in taxes? Yes I would to keep this country the bastion of freedom and compassion.  Here we go again, no answers, no figures. Just more questions. Answer my first questions aren't you smart enough take a little test and tell the truth for a change.  Yes, I owned a business, for 40 years. A state licenced plumbing contractor. Would I move my business over seas so I can pay slave wages and pay  no taxes. NO, NO, NO. You must be a  very greedy person, a lamprey who wants to suck the life out of this country by not paying taxes and living of the backs of other people.  Kid you think you know it all. You were born into this world with nothing and you will leave it with nothing. Just remember you are renting the thing you worship now, for just as long as you live. Just watch a funeral procession and see how much  the guy that is leaving this world gets to take with him. Republican freedom, my ass, you guys want to stick your nose into a woman's right to do with her body  what she wants to, it's nobody's business but hers, if she gets pregnant, what she does with that pregnancy. Now just answer these 15 questions with facts and figures or do you want me and the other Democrats in this forum answer them for you, in 60 seconds.

I heard somebody in another t forum ask when we would elect our first atheist president. I responded we already have. At least three times.

All 3 Democrats elected since Roe v Wade are atheist in deed, if not word. Neither Carter, Clinton, nor Obama stand for any Christian or religious principles that I can see. All three punished the poor by keeping the down, keeping them dependent. All of them disrespect life with their abortion agenda, and all three believe it's OK to steal from achievers.

None of these men while in office displayed any action that resembles Christianity, rather, God is clearly absent from the workings of these men. Ergo, they have to be atheist.

The Troll

  I have heard a whole lot of bullshit out of you far right religious wackos. You need  not worry about the atheist, they are not after you or your stupid religion. You got to worry about the lying, thieving, stupid, braindead teabagger.  Would I like to live in a world controlled by you idiots.  Hell no.  I just can't see me kissing your ring and you can kiss my ass.  The Troll.