God sucks!

[Exterminator]

That is exactly what he said: "Faith = Belief in possibilities."

I also found it interesting that he admits what I suspect is true of most who profess to follow the bible, that he hadn't ever read it all the way through.

[mcgonser]

Eh, exactly how many times have you read the Bible thru Ex; just curious since you claim, and I do mean claim, to know sooooooooo much about the bible, every believer, every church and God. Come on admit it. You have been a busy, busy ?????????? to have acquired all this knowledge.

[Exterminator]

Eh, exactly how many times have you read the Bible thru Ex; just curious since you claim, and I do mean claim, to know sooooooooo much about the bible, every believer, every church and God. Come on admit it. You have been a busy, busy ?????????? to have acquired all this knowledge.

Just once and it was the Dewey Rheims version.  You?

[mcgonser]

King James Version
Scofield-my favorite for bible study because of the references.
New American Version
I use Naves Topical Bible for reference and others too.
Each time I read the bible I use a different version. The Scofield is still my favorite:
I have been reading thru the bible, now on my fourth time for over 30 years.

[Locutus]

I've actually read the KJV cover to cover. 

Most people who come to the conclusions that Ex, Dan, and I have come to, do so by not only researching the bible itself, but also the history of Christianity, including outside influences of other belief systems on the formation of the religion.  The whole thing is a logical dead end except for those who are so blind that they won't see. 

[Henry Hawk]

I've actually read the KJV cover to cover. 

Most people who come to the conclusions that Ex, Dan, and I have come to, do so by not only researching the bible itself, but also the history of Christianity, including outside influences of other belief systems on the formation of the religion.  The whole thing is a logical dead end except for those who are so blind that they won't see. 

I WAS once blind, but now I see...

[Locutus]

I WAS once blind, but now I see...

That's questionable. 

[mcgonser]

Let me get this straight. You don't get your info from Gods word but from what other people are telling you he said. Why not read his total word and figure it out for yourself. God said it, I believe it, Amen. But at least I have spent years studying, reading and praying over his word. Do the work yourself and see what you learn.

[Locutus]

Let me get this straight. You don't get your info from Gods word but from what other people are telling you he said. Why not read his total word and figure it out for yourself. God said it, I believe it, Amen. But at least I have spent years studying, reading and praying over his word. Do the work yourself and see what you learn.

I've actually read the KJV cover to cover. 

Most people who come to the conclusions that Ex, Dan, and I have come to, do so by not only researching the bible itself, but also the history of Christianity, including outside influences of other belief systems on the formation of the religion.  The whole thing is a logical dead end except for those who are so blind that they won't see. 

Been there and done that. 

[Locutus]

BTW, perhaps the problem is that you've spent years with your nose stuck in "the book" and haven't spent enough time reading books about "the book" and about the period in general.   

[mcgonser]

BTW, perhaps the problem is that you've spent years with your nose stuck in "the book" and haven't spent enough time reading books about "the book" and about the period in general.   

Well you got that one wrong too. I don't expect too much from your group except jumping to the wrong conclusion. JMO

[Locutus]

Perhaps you missed the word perhaps at the beginning of my remarks. 

Well let's just look at the totality of your posts on this thread shall we?  Anyway, just for review, here are your posts thus far on this thread:

Well, I don't think God sucks. I believe in him, his son and his word., Amen

GOD Loves you!

Because it is true that there is a God. Not true that there is a Santa Claus even though it is a nice story. Seems to me that people believe what they want to anyway. I haven't tried to tell yoou what to think, just what I believe. Why is that such a problem for you? Me thinks maybe you do protest too much. JMO

Yet this story, Bible, has stood up over thousands of years and will continue to. There really is no reference to Santa in the bible so i don't put them in the same cateragory. My main question is: Could it be possible that you are wrong???? Why worry if I am delusional? Its no skin off your back. Leave me in peace and I will leave you in peace. God loves you and me!

Ah!!!theres the rub, there comes a time when you have to let the heart in and accept things thru pure faith of belief.
Ephesians 2:8-10
For by grace are you saved thru faith, not of yourselves in case any man should boast. It is a gift from God

It is a combination of the mind and the heart silly,

I can't comment on the Morman belief/ don't know enough about it.

Ah, you forget, All Things Are Possible With God. 

God Is Love!

Oh you silly silly man. 

   God Loves You!

Good try Ex, but no cigar LOL

Eh, exactly how many times have you read the Bible thru Ex; just curious since you claim, and I do mean claim, to know sooooooooo much about the bible, every believer, every church and God. Come on admit it. You have been a busy, busy ?????????? to have acquired all this knowledge.

King James Version
Scofield-my favorite for bible study because of the references.
New American Version
I use Naves Topical Bible for reference and others too.
Each time I read the bible I use a different version. The Scofield is still my favorite:
I have been reading thru the bible, now on my fourth time for over 30 years.

Let me get this straight. You don't get your info from Gods word but from what other people are telling you he said. Why not read his total word and figure it out for yourself. God said it, I believe it, Amen. But at least I have spent years studying, reading and praying over his word. Do the work yourself and see what you learn.

Now given all of the above, which appears to be nothing more than cheerleading for god, there is absolutely no critical evidence offered up to support the inference of this claim here:

Well you got that one wrong too. I don't expect too much from your group except jumping to the wrong conclusion. JMO

The inference being that you've read other books about "the book", or about your religion (and I'm not talking about books supporting your belief system), or about the origins of christianity at all.  If you had, you would most likely come to the same conclusion that many of us have.  The whole thing is a logical dead end. 

Did you even know that ole' Jeebus doesn't have the market cornered on "Passion" related stories?  There were plenty of predecessors which the new testament authors were well aware of that could have influenced the authors of the new testament.  But you're studious and all, so I bet you already knew that. 

[Henry Hawk]

Locutus, you and I go ways back now, so I will ask you....what is your authority for truth?....Science?...Simply because science cannot prove the existence of God?...it seems to me, that you have taken great "pride" in that, and feel the need to tell EVERYONE who does NOT agree with YOUR, opinion, THEY ARE WRONG, they are being illogical?....they are wasting their time on a 'dead end'?...and, not so much you personally, but there are others on here, ( I won't mention names), LOVE to chastise those who believe.....

I can say that I have read the Bible through and through...and am only NOW beginning to grasp the message that it has....the many 'truths', the philosophical values, the RICH history, the fullfilled prophecies, the vast knowledge that is has to offer....It has become MY opinion, that it takes MORE than simply ... buzzing..through the many books and chapters...

I can go as far to say that I agree with your disdain for religion itself....I personally think religion is getting into the way of ALL of us humans, to finding and accepting the truth, that GOD wants us to find.

I'm not here to argue, because THAT is not going to win...anything...and I'm not out to 'prove' anything, but rather to support MY personal belief, and to encourage those others on here NOT to be discouraged in their desire to accept Christ.

[Bo D]

Locutus, you and I go ways back now, so I will ask you....what is your authority for truth?....Science?...Simply because science cannot prove the existence of God?...

I have purposely steered clear of this type of discussion lately. More and more it seems like people are just spittin' into the wind. Nothing I write is going to change anybody's mind and nobody's going to change mine.

But to claim that science is anti-God just rankles me.

Science can't prove there is a god. Science can't prove there is no god.

I still trying to sort all this out but I believe that science and God can co-exist quite nicely, thank you.

[Exterminator]

King James Version
Scofield-my favorite for bible study because of the references.
New American Version
I use Naves Topical Bible for reference and others too.
Each time I read the bible I use a different version. The Scofield is still my favorite:
I have been reading thru the bible, now on my fourth time for over 30 years.

Yeah, I believe that as much as I believe your story about being a retired educated professional (which you've pretty much disproven).  I'm betting you've never read a book in your life.   

Thou shalt not lie.