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Abortion - Planned Parenthood

Started by Bo D, August 10, 2015, 01:24:43 PM

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Bo D

I saw this on a Facebook post this morning.

"Abortion seems to be the only medical procedure that people want to deny you based on how you got in that situation.

Drove drunk, got in an accident and need an organ transplant? No problem.

Messing around with a gun, accidentally shoot yourself in the leg and need surgery? Of course.

Smoke tobacco for most of your life and need treatment for lung cancer? Yep.

Climb a tree, fall out and break your leg? We'll fix that right up.

Have sex and get pregnant when you don't want to be? YOU GOT YOURSELF INTO THIS SITUATION AND YOU DESERVE NO MEDICAL HELP OR COMPASSION! THIS IS YOUR FAULT AND YOU WILL DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES!"
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Bo D on August 10, 2015, 01:24:43 PM
Have sex and get pregnant when you don't want to be? YOU GOT YOURSELF INTO THIS SITUATION AND YOU DESERVE NO MEDICAL HELP OR COMPASSION! THIS IS YOUR FAULT AND YOU WILL DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES!"[/i]
But that is wrong!  There are plenty of services for medical help.  There are large groups out there with an enormous amount of compassion.  Yes, it IS that persons fault.  Yes, there ARE consequences (why is this so hard for people to understand?)

Many of us would love to see NOT killing of that unborn baby, yet lets provide a home to some loving parents, who are unable to have a child of their own.

I understand it is a tough choice...and it IS a choice...but lets provide MORE encouragement to do the right thing, instead of KILLING a life.

My heart goes out to anyone facing this decision.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

libby

Quote from: Bo D on August 10, 2015, 01:24:43 PM
I saw this on a Facebook post this morning.

"Abortion seems to be the only medical procedure that people want to deny you based on how you got in that situation.

Drove drunk, got in an accident and need an organ transplant? No problem.

Messing around with a gun, accidentally shoot yourself in the leg and need surgery? Of course.

Smoke tobacco for most of your life and need treatment for lung cancer? Yep.

Climb a tree, fall out and break your leg? We'll fix that right up.

Have sex and get pregnant when you don't want to be? YOU GOT YOURSELF INTO THIS SITUATION AND YOU DESERVE NO MEDICAL HELP OR COMPASSION! THIS IS YOUR FAULT AND YOU WILL DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES!"


I remember thinking, when I was growing up, that I did not want to have children. I imagine growing up in a small house with 4 sisters and sometimes a cousin or two had something to do with that.

I have two children, a boy and a girl. The boy came first, before I was ready emotionally,  but I never considered abortion. And that was the right decision for me, because having that little boy, who was born 5 months after my father died, taught me what it was like to love unconditionally.   

I remember when it began:  I was changing his diaper, and he was crying and kicking and I was in a hurry (for what I don't remember).  He was less than a year old. I raised my hand to hit him, and just before my hand got to his little body, something stopped me --  and then I had the thought: If I had hit him in anger I could've killed him.

Having said that, it is my opinion that not every child who could be born should be born. The mother's instinct and wishes should be the only decision that matters. If a girl or woman wants an abortion, there is a reason. Sometimes it's simply that she does not want the child, or at least not that child by that man.

Some unwanted children, not long after birth and afterwards, die horribly. Others live to adulthood while being physically and/or emotionally abused.

One more thing about what it means to be a mother: I read somewhere that wounded or dying military most often call for their mothers.



All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 10, 2015, 01:53:38 PM
But that is wrong!  There are plenty of services for medical help.  There are large groups out there with an enormous amount of compassion. 

But yet, the Republicans are fighting to defund Planned Parenthood for providing just such services.  :rolleyes:
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

me

Quote from: Bo D on August 10, 2015, 03:37:48 PM
But yet, the Republicans are fighting to defund Planned Parenthood for providing just such services.  :rolleyes:
They are fighting to defund planned parenthood for selling body parts of the babies after the abortions.
Trump 2020

Bo D

Quote from: me on August 10, 2015, 03:41:44 PM
They are fighting to defund planned parenthood for selling body parts of the babies after the abortions.

And we both know how true that is ...  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Bo D on August 10, 2015, 03:37:48 PM
But yet, the Republicans are fighting to defund Planned Parenthood for providing just such services.  :rolleyes:
They are willing to divert the money to women's hospitals and community centers. 
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 10, 2015, 04:02:57 PM
They are willing to divert the money to women's hospitals and community centers.

Only as long as those "women's hospitals and community centers" kowtow to the beliefs of the conservatives.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Purplelady1040

I could never have kids but we adopted our son and daughter! I am not for abortion, mainly because there are tons of people out there who would love to adopt! Now if it was a medical decision, I would say do it but besides that I can't. It is not a religious reason but just my own beliefs!

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Bo D on August 10, 2015, 04:05:04 PM
Only as long as those "women's hospitals and community centers" kowtow to the beliefs of the conservatives.
Any proof of that?

We DO know that Planned Parenthood, according to our Senate Majority Leader, is a ...."scandal-plagued political lobbying giant"
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on August 10, 2015, 04:08:36 PM
I could never have kids but we adopted our son and daughter! I am not for abortion, mainly because there are tons of people out there who would love to adopt! Now if it was a medical decision, I would say do it but besides that I can't. It is not a religious reason but just my own beliefs!
8)
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

libby

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 10, 2015, 04:14:11 PM
Any proof of that?

We DO know that Planned Parenthood, according to our Senate Majority Leader, is a ...."scandal-plagued political lobbying giant"
I strongly disagree. I have a very good friend, a nurse, who has worked for Planned Parenthood for years.  And know others in the profession who routinely refer troubled young and older women to them.
All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

Henry Hawk

Quote from: libby on August 10, 2015, 04:19:03 PM
I strongly disagree. I have a very good friend, a nurse, who has worked for Planned Parenthood for years. 

and how does that prove that they are not scandal plagued and are lobbyists?  I'm not saying anything bad about people who work for them....I'm sure there are lots of great people there.  As a large group...it gets money from Federal Tax Dollars.....it then gives back to democrat politicians campaign funds....that is lobbying.  Selling baby parts IS scandalous.....it NEEDS to be investigated at the least.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

libby

Henry, If you're going to insinuate that I don't know what I'm talking about, do me a favor and include my entire post. It was only two lines long  :rolleyes: Here it is again: (the part in bold is what you left out).
Quote from: libby on August 10, 2015, 04:19:03 PM
I strongly disagree. I have a very good friend, a nurse, who has worked for Planned Parenthood for years.  And know others in the profession who routinely refer troubled young and older women to them.
All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

Henry Hawk

Quote from: libby on August 10, 2015, 06:31:54 PM
Henry, If you're going to insinuate that I don't know what I'm talking about, do me a favor and include my entire post. It was only two lines long  :rolleyes: Here it is again: (the part in bold is what you left out).
That part of the sentence doesn't change my point Libby....I didn't INSINUATE anything, other than what I stated.  Just because YOU know people there, who do good things, does NOT negate the BAD things that DOES go on there.  PERIOD.

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW