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Started by Bo D, August 10, 2015, 01:24:43 PM

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Purplelady1040

Quote from: me on August 12, 2015, 08:18:36 AM
Sure, they can say no to the abortion but they have no say in what happens to the baby. Yes, I said baby because if it has body parts to be distributed it is a formed baby not a lump of cells.
I know it is a baby but a woman can say no to the abortion and have a say so!

me

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on August 12, 2015, 08:37:10 AM
I know it is a baby but a woman can say no to the abortion and have a say so!
She should have thought about the possibility of becoming pregnant before the fact and prevented it. Yes, there are rape and incest caused pregnancys but that can be taken care of another way, before the fetus becomes a child in the womb. Yes, there are valid reasons to have an abortion but not just because you slept around and got pregnant or because it's inconvenient to be pregnant.
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Purplelady1040

Quote from: me on August 12, 2015, 09:30:30 AM
She should have thought about the possibility of becoming pregnant before the fact and prevented it. Yes, there are rape and incest caused pregnancys but that can be taken care of another way, before the fetus becomes a child in the womb. Yes, there are valid reasons to have an abortion but not just because you slept around and got pregnant or because it's inconvenient to be pregnant.
There is adoption! That is always the alternative to abortion even on rape and incests and along with the sleeping around!

Bo D

Quote from: me on August 12, 2015, 09:30:30 AM
She should have thought about the possibility of becoming pregnant before the fact and prevented it.

Yet the Republicans are against affordable contraception too!
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

me

Quote from: Bo D on August 12, 2015, 09:53:00 AM
Yet the Republicans are against affordable contraception too!
No, they are not that is a liberal talking point period.
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me

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on August 12, 2015, 09:33:49 AM
There is adoption! That is always the alternative to abortion even on rape and incests and along with the sleeping around!
But sleeping around or inconvenient should not be a reason for an abortion if the person becomes pregnant.
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Bo D

Quote from: me on August 12, 2015, 09:55:11 AM
No, they are not that is a liberal talking point period.

What planet are you from?  :rolleyes:

Here's just one example ...

Rick Santorum says that any form of birth control is immoral. "Many of the Christian faith have said, well, that's okay, contraception is okay," Santorum, a devout Catholic, said in October. "It's not okay. It's a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be."

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Bo D on August 12, 2015, 10:02:42 AM
What planet are you from?  :rolleyes:

Here's just one example ...

Rick Santorum says that any form of birth control is immoral. "Many of the Christian faith have said, well, that's okay, contraception is okay," Santorum, a devout Catholic, said in October. "It's not okay. It's a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be."



Rick Santorum is NOT the Republican Party. 
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


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Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 12, 2015, 11:27:26 AM
Rick Santorum is NOT the Republican Party.

Mike Huckabee - If the Democrats want to insult the women of America by making them believe that they are helpless without Uncle Sugar coming in and providing for them a prescription each month for birth control, because they cannot control their libido or their reproductive system without the help of the government, then so be it." 
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Bo D

Rush Limbaugh branded a law student a "slut" because she endorsed the medical necessity of birth control.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Bo D

Let me get this straight, Ms. Fluke, and I'm asking this with all due respect: You want me to give you my hard-earned dollars so you can have sex," Bill O'Reilly
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Bo D on August 12, 2015, 11:40:38 AM
Mike Huckabee - If the Democrats want to insult the women of America by making them believe that they are helpless without Uncle Sugar coming in and providing for them a prescription each month for birth control, because they cannot control their libido or their reproductive system without the help of the government, then so be it." 
If you think about it, it SHOULD be an insult to women. Many of them are DEPENDENT on the government for their sex lives.

Are we supposed to be talking about AFFORDABLE or FREE?  Why don't we give out free cigarettes? or tatoo's?  or booze? Many of these women seem to afford to pay for those items.  why shouldn't they be able to afford over the counter birth control?

I have a hard time getting my head wrapped around that.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Bo D

Ken Cuccinelli "birth control causes abortion."

John Boehner  - the Affordable Health Care Act's free birth control mandate "cannot stand and will not stand."

Mitch McConnell - your religiously devout boss has the right to deprive you of affordable birth control because it's his or her "religious liberty."

Bob Casey - does not believe religiously-affiliated organizations should have cover free birth control

Marco Rubio - fired back at the Affordable Care Act last year with his own bill—the Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 2012—which would have allowed employers to block free birth control—or, for that matter, any health service—based on religious or moral beliefs

Chris Christie  - In signing his state's budget earlier this year, he—for the fifth time—failed to include additional funding for family planning services that would have benefited clinics offering birth control, cancer screenings and STD testing

Paul Ryan - Obamacare's free birth control mandate is a "threat"

Rick Perry - gutted funding for family planning, leaving hundreds of thousands of Texas women without birth control (or, for that matter, basic reproductive healthcare),

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 12, 2015, 11:53:22 AM
If you think about it, it SHOULD be an insult to women. Many of them are DEPENDENT on the government for their sex lives.

Are we supposed to be talking about AFFORDABLE or FREE?  Why don't we give out free cigarettes? or tatoo's?  or booze? Many of these women seem to afford to pay for those items.  why shouldn't they be able to afford over the counter birth control?

I have a hard time getting my head wrapped around that.

The Pill can cost $850 per year when you include the cost of a doctor's visit. The patch and ring can set users back $1200 per year. And sterilization costs around $6,000 without insurance.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Bo D on August 12, 2015, 11:59:23 AM
The Pill can cost $850 per year when you include the cost of a doctor's visit. The patch and ring can set users back $1200 per year. And sterilization costs around $6,000 without insurance.

So the government should PAY for it then? 

You know Bo, I understand this whole argument. It is just frustrating to see a group of people be so dependent on certain things.  Like I said, I know these girls get tatoos, smokes, booze....but yet cannot take care of themselves on important stuff.

There is no "accountability" for their actions, for many young folks today....

Even with the FREE birth control, which IS available to many poor folks, there STILL is a problem with un-wanted pregnancies and abortions.

I hate that our country is turning into a dependent state.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW