Democrats SUCK!!

[Anne]

Is Arlington Cemetery closed?

[me]

The United States of America does not negotiate with terrorists; foreign or domestic.

Hum........   Maybe that's just for this year.....



Obama victory opens negotiating window with Iran

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/07/us-usa-campaign-iran-opportunity-idUSBRE8A61P920121107

[me]

Do you realize how much money is being spent by this administration to try to make this as hard as possible on people to get their way. No president has ever shut most of these things down before when this has happened. 

www.ktnv.com

Lake Mead property owners forced out until shutdown ends
BY JACQUI HEINRICH
video
Las Vegas, NV (KTNV) -- The government shutdown is being felt close to home for some locals. They say they're being forced out of private homes on Lake Mead because they sit on federal land.

Joyce Spencer is 77-years-old and her husband Ralph is 80. They've been spending most of their time in the family ice cream store since going home isn't an option.

The Spencers never expected to be forced out of their Lake Mead home, which they've owned since the 70s, but on Thursday, a park ranger said they had 24 hours to get out.

"I had to go to town today and buy Ralph undershirts and jeans because I forgot his pants," Joyce Spencer told Action News.

The Stewart's Point home sits on federal land, so even though the Spencers own their cabin outright, they're not allowed in until the government reopens.

Park officials said property owners can visit only to retrieve belongings; they sent Action News a statement which reads in part, "Unfortunately overnight stays are not permitted until a budget is passed and the park can reopen."

Joyce Spencer said she's alright in the meantime, staying with nearby family, but the move was a lot to handle as a senior citizen.

"I had to be sure and get his walker and his scooter that he has to go in," Spencer said. "We're not hurt in any way except it might cost me if I have to go buy more pants."

The Lake Mead properties are considered vacation homes; one of the lease requirements to own a plot is people must have an alternative residence.

Regardless, the Spencers said it's their property and they should be allowed in, shutdown or not.

http://www.ktnv.com/news/local/Lake-Mead-Property-Owners-Forced-Out-Until-Gov-Shutdown-Ends-226557661.html?lc=Smart

[me]

And once again a slap in the face.  Tell me this administration isn't being in our faces with this thing just trying to bully the conservatives into getting their way.  I'd sure like to hear the explanation for this little stunt.

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OCTOBER 7, 2013
This Week's Magazine
BELTWAY CONFIDENTIAL
Park Service OKs immigration reform rally on 'closed' National Mall
BY CHARLIE SPIERING | OCTOBER 7, 2013 AT 2:06 PM

A few scattered barriers around the National Mall have signs informing visitors that the area is...
A planned immigration reform rally will take place on the National Mall on Tuesday even though the site is closed due to the government shutdown.

Organizers for the "Camino Americano: March for Immigration Reform" were spotted Monday setting up a stage and equipment on the National Mall for the rally which will take place on Tuesday.

A few scattered barriers around the park have signs informing visitors that the area is closed as a result of the government shutdown.

Susana Flores, a spokesperson for the rally, confirmed for the Washington Examiner that the Park Service will allow the event to take place under the group's rights granted by the First Amendment.

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About 30 members of Congress are expected to attend the rally, including House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and Sen. Robert Menendez, D-N.J.

The event is hosted by several immigration activist groups, together with the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) and the AFL-CIO.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2536908
AND VETERANS ARE SHUT OUT OF AN OPEN MONUMENT ONE THAT'S A 24/7 365 THING AND THEY HAVE TO PAY TO KEEP PEOPLE OUT AND IT COSTS NOTHING TO LET THEM GO UP TO IT?????????????????   

[Palehorse]

Newsflash - The POTUS did not shut down the government, Congress did. Moreover, the POTUS is not holding the nation hostage to unrealistic ideals, Congress is. Finally, the POTUS is not illegally circumventing the legal process iin order to attempt to change the law of the land, Congress is. 

(And all of the rag published, opinion pieces in the world will not change those facts.)

[Locutus]

Is Arlington Cemetery closed?

Apparently not.

Arlington National Cemetery will be open if the federal government shuts down
9/30/2013 12:00:00 AM
Arlington National Cemetery remains operational for interment operations and will be open to the general public in the event of a lapse in appropriations for much of the federal government.  However, the National Park Service plans to curtail operations.  At Arlington National Cemetery, the Arlington House will be closed for the duration of the government shutdown, and the Martz Tour tram service managed by the National Park Service will be temporarily suspended.  Arlington National Cemetery will be open as usual for pedestrian access, and we strive to accommodate vehicular access to visitors with disabilities and physical limitations.  Drivers may apply for a temporary vehicular access pass at the visitor's desk in the Welcome Center lobby.

http://www.arlingtoncemetery.mil/News/NewsItem.aspx?ID=376a2906-6584-4468-89e5-0c697e28f662

[me]

Newsflash - The POTUS did not shut down the government, Congress did. Moreover, the POTUS is not holding the nation hostage to unrealistic ideals, Congress is. Finally, the POTUS is not illegally circumventing the legal process iin order to attempt to change the law of the land, Congress is. 

(And all of the rag published, opinion pieces in the world will not change those facts.)

Law of the lands ass.  It isn't even the bill that was passed originally because the POTUS gave waivers to big corporations and changed it which is one of the things the house wants changed and why they want this delayed for a year.  They want to give waivers to the citizens too in case some of the people can't afford this "free" healthcare.  And the POTUS is the one closing things and trying to make it as hard on people as he can to get his way.  That is not the way government works, it is checks and balances....(give and take)....and it is the POTUS who has said repeatedly he will not negotiate.  There is still money coming in to pay for these things that are being closed and, in some instances, it is costing more to close it than it would to leave it open.  How much do you suppose it is costing to have the DNR put gates up and stand guard over things which usually has no one in attendance not to mention places which ran by private funding and just happen to sit on government land.  That is going waaaay too far IMO. Bet his golf course is still open.   

[Exterminator]

Bullshit.  If the neocons want the law repealed, they should get the votes to do so or shut the fuck up, period.

[me]

Bullshit.  If the neocons want the law repealed, they should get the votes to do so or shut the fuck up, period.

They aren't trying to get it repealed they are wanting it delayed for a year is all and Reid won't even bring it up for a vote.  What they want did pass the House in case you failed to notice.

[Exterminator]

They aren't trying to get it repealed they are wanting it delayed for a year is all and Reid won't even bring it up for a vote.  What they want did pass the House in case you failed to notice.

They don't want it delayed, they want it gone.  They've tried 41 times to repeal it and failed.

[Henry Hawk]

The only reason why the republicans are doing this is because it is such HORRIBLE bill.  It was a bill that zero republicans supported.

It is not like this is a regular event that happens.....the majority of Americans are not in favor of this bill.........this bill was shoved down the throats, passed without congressmen even knowing what all is in it.........and it did not have the five day window that Obama PROMISE that all bills would have before it was to be voted on and passed.

The least republicans want is a delay and a chance to negotiate certain parts.  Try to make it a little more feasible for the average American.

[me]

The only reason why the republicans are doing this is because it is such HORRIBLE bill.  It was a bill that zero republicans supported.

It is not like this is a regular event that happens.....the majority of Americans are not in favor of this bill.........this bill was shoved down the throats, passed without congressmen even knowing what all is in it.........and it did not have the five day window that Obama PROMISE that all bills would have before it was to be voted on and passed.

The least republicans want is a delay and a chance to negotiate certain parts.  Try to make it a little more feasible for the average American.

It was done by reconciliation in the end. 

The Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010 (H.R. 4872) is a reconciliation bill passed by the 111th United States Congress to make changes to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. It was signed into law by President Barack Obama on March 30, 2010.[9]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconciliation_%28United_States_Congress%29


http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-111hr4872rh/pdf/BILLS-111hr4872rh.pdf

[Henry Hawk]

the bottom line is, if this is such a great bill, why did congress exempt themselves from it?

[Exterminator]

the bottom line is, if this is such a great bill, why did congress exempt themselves from it?

The bottom line is that this isn't a bill; it is a law.  If you want to repeal the law, get the votes and stop trying to circumvent the democratic process.

[me]

The bottom line is that this isn't a bill; it is a law.  If you want to repeal the law, get the votes and stop trying to circumvent the democratic process.

Can a law be changed without the act of congress, parts of it anyway?