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I think Obama and Pelosi had better rethink their approval of this bunch


SAN DIEGO (CBS) — A pair of Southland street cart vendors who were forced to shut down their businesses after "Occupy" protesters vandalized their carts are hoping to get some help from local residents.

KNX 1070′s Tom Reopelle reports a fundraiser in the Gas Lamp district in San Diego on Monday night is aimed at helping two vendors get back on their feet.



The coffee and hot dog carts were located in Civic Center Plaza, the same location as the Occupy San Diego protesters.

That group first settled in to the plaza Oct. 7 and set up a tent city which has since twice been taken down by police.

Coffee cart owner Linda Jenson and hot dog cart operators Letty and Pete Soto said they initially provided free food and drink to demonstrators, but when they stopped, the protesters became violent.


And according to one city councilman, bodily fluids were used in the attacks.

"Both carts have had items stolen, have had their covers vandalized with markings and graffiti, as well as one of the carts had urine and blood splattered on it," said Councilman Carl DeMaio.

The damages will likely require at least a complete cleaning if not a replacement of the cart covers, DeMaio said.

In addition to the attacks, the vendors also said they recently received death threats.

Proceeds from the fundraiser will go directly to help the two business owners.

After a relatively peaceful start, the "Occupy" movement has sparked violent clashes with police in Oakland and recently saw protesters push an elderly woman down a flight of stairs in D.C.






http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2011/11/07/socal-street-cart-vendors-hurting-after-occupy-group-splatters-blood-urine/?utm_source=co2hog

So you think David Brisard is representative of all police officers?

This is becoming the norm rather than the exception at these gatherings so don't bother to come back at me with that stupidity Ex. 

Quote from: me on November 08, 2011, 01:18:47 PM
This is becoming the norm rather than the exception at these gatherings so don't bother to come back at me with that stupidity Ex.

No, it isn't you uninformed half-wit, and if you'd like other examples of bad cops, I can provide thousands.

Quote from: Exterminator on November 08, 2011, 01:40:21 PM
No, it isn't you uninformed half-wit, and if you'd like other examples of bad cops, I can provide thousands.

And that has what to do with the "Occupy Wall Street" movement?  Oh wait I get it.....change the subject, deflect from the issue, and demean the other person by name calling.  Gooooood sheeple.....gooood sheeple.

Quote from: me on November 08, 2011, 03:45:40 PM
And that has what to do with the "Occupy Wall Street" movement?  Oh wait I get it.....change the subject, deflect from the issue, and demean the other person by name calling.  Gooooood sheeple.....gooood sheeple.

Are you really too stupid to get the analogy between a relatively small group of protestors tainting the image of the entire movement and a relatively small number of bad cops making all police officers look bad?  It should be a crime that we let you fucking retards breed...hell, you can't even spell, "demonstrator."

Quote from: Exterminator on November 08, 2011, 03:58:02 PM
Are you really too stupid to get the analogy between a relatively small group of protestors tainting the image of the entire movement and a relatively small number of bad cops making all police officers look bad?  It should be a crime that we let you fucking retards breed...hell, you can't even spell, "demonstrator."

Hey Mr. Smartass isn't that what you all did/are doing to the Tea Party movement?  If the shoe fits buckoo. 

  My brothers and sisters of American have you noticed how "ME" always comes out to belittle the people to who stand up against the super rich, corporations and the crooked banks and stock market.  Or the people to demonstrate against the Republican who wants to take the right to unionize.

  To Honey Poo and the Hawk they are a mob of unwashed white trash.  She so loves the super rich.  :jc:

Quote from: The Troll on November 08, 2011, 06:01:12 PM
  My brothers and sisters of American have you noticed how "ME" always comes out to belittle the people to who stand up against the super rich, corporations and the crooked banks and stock market.  Or the people to demonstrate against the Republican who wants to take the right to unionize.

  To Honey Poo and the Hawk they are a mob of unwashed white trash.  She so loves the super rich.  :jc:

Quote from: me on November 08, 2011, 07:29:29 PM

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/deerladie/Abetterargument.jpg)

JUST LOVE IT!

Quote from: me on November 08, 2011, 07:29:29 PM

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/deerladie/Abetterargument.jpg)

  I know one one thing, you are 99% full of shit.  The other 1% who in the hell knows.  Honey Dipper.   :wink: :smile:

There's more than a little irony in the person who made that picture's inability to spell, "argument."

Quote from: Exterminator on November 09, 2011, 12:39:43 PM
There's more than a little irony in the person who made that picture's inability to spell, "argument."

:rotfl:  :yes:

Quote from: Exterminator on November 09, 2011, 12:39:43 PM
There's more than a little irony in the person who made that picture's inability to spell, "argument."

Those animal pictures are always misspelled because they are jokes it's not a serious thing......lighten up Mr. Big Head.  :rolleyes:

Quote from: Exterminator on November 09, 2011, 12:39:43 PM
There's more than a little irony in the person who made that picture's inability to spell, "argument."

  Hallelujah, the sharp all seeing eye of the Exterminator caught the misspelled work.  I sure over looked it. :doh:   :wink: :biggrin:

Quote from: me on November 09, 2011, 02:23:32 PM
Those animal pictures are always misspelled because they are jokes it's not a serious thing......lighten up Mr. Big Head.  :rolleyes:

Uh, yeah, sorry but the spellings that are meant to be misspellings are obvious...."cheezburger" for example...that misspelling is unintentional.

Quote from: Exterminator on November 09, 2011, 02:30:43 PM
Uh, yeah, sorry but the spellings that are meant to be misspellings are obvious...."cheezburger" for example...that misspelling is unintentional.

Well xqzzzzzzz me for even posting it.  I shud hav non no one waz supozed to mak a jok in thez thredz. 

Quote from: me on November 09, 2011, 04:26:46 PM
Well xqzzzzzzz me for even posting it.  I shud hav non no one waz supozed to mak a jok in thez thredz.

  You don't make a joke of anything, unless it's making fun of someone or something.   :yes:

Quote from: The Troll on November 09, 2011, 07:44:03 PM
  You don't make a joke of anything, unless it's making fun of someone or something.   :yes:

Boy if that isn't the pot calling the kettle black I don't know what is.  Neither you nor Ex know how to have a civil conversation without putting someone down or calling them names.  Go back and read through the posts.  Hell, Ex even does the same to you Troll when you disagree with him but as long as you agree with him you're fine and he loves you to death.  Now that's a friend.....NOT!!!!

You call your tone here civil?

Quote from: me on November 09, 2011, 10:49:23 PM
Boy if that isn't the pot calling the kettle black I don't know what is.  Neither you nor Ex know how to have a civil conversation without putting someone down or calling them names.  Go back and read through the posts.  Hell, Ex even does the same to you Troll when you disagree with him but as long as you agree with him you're fine and he loves you to death.  Now that's a friend.....NOT!!!!

  As O0 Herman Cain says, "I don't recall" him saying anything that bad about me.   :wink:  But then and again with my water soaked skin from living in my Troll Hole I got rhino hide and I'm not so "SENSITIVE"   :biggrin:

so how bout those occupy people....

Quote from: damfast on November 10, 2011, 09:37:56 AM
so how bout those occupy people....

Guess they're on their way to D C now.   Wonder if Obama and Pelosi will still back them.   :biggrin:

Quote from: damfast on November 10, 2011, 09:37:56 AM
so how bout those occupy people....

  Oh, I for them, it gone on too long about letting crooked bankers and the Wall Street Gang get by with all of the stealing they have gone.

  I am quit sure the Obama, Reid and Pelosi will be more than glad to see them show off their constitutional right of freedom of speech.  Just like the damn Tea Baggers did.   :salute:

Wonder why the people who are attempting to slur the names and reputations of the occupy movement, are not doing the same with the bunch who rioted when they fired Joe Paterno?

Quote from: Palehorse on November 10, 2011, 08:38:45 PM
Wonder why the people who are attempting to slur the names and reputations of the occupy movement, are not doing the same with the bunch who rioted when they fired Joe Paterno?

That too is wrong because they are also tearing up other peoples property.  They definitely need to rethink their priorities which should be that 10yr old boy rather than a winning record.  Does not speak well for any of them.   

Quote from: me on November 10, 2011, 10:47:21 PM
That too is wrong because they are also tearing up other peoples property.  They definitely need to rethink their priorities which should be that 10yr old boy rather than a winning record.  Does not speak well for any of them.

  I personally think the damn cops :cowboy: are doing a better job of tearing up someones property and committing police :smash: abuse.  :mad:  This should really make you happy.  I wonder what the cops :cowboy: would do with some young adult was carrying, with a permit a pistol or a automatic assault weapon.  :confused:  The Tea Baggers did.   :rant:

Quote from: The Troll on November 11, 2011, 08:54:45 AM
  I personally think the damn cops :cowboy: are doing a better job of tearing up someones property and committing police :smash: abuse.  :mad:  This should really make you happy.  I wonder what the cops :cowboy: would do with some young adult was carrying, with a permit a pistol or a automatic assault weapon.  :confused:  The Tea Baggers did.   :rant:

The lawless abuse of protesters is just another symptom of how far down the road we have come as a "police state" for the rich; even the war on drugs is in support of the rich (big pharma), just as our middle east excursions are (big oil).  We lock up more people for drugs and black market drug activity than any other country in the world.  We have killed more people in the world over oil, than any other country in the world.  This "ain't" the country our founder's envisioned.  In fact, we revolted against such a country and the occupy movement is hopefully the beginning of the revolt required to get back to our foundation; the Constitution for the people, not bought by and for the wealthiest few.   

:clap: :thumbsup:

Quote from: dan foster on November 11, 2011, 09:49:46 AM
The lawless abuse of protesters is just another symptom of how far down the road we have come as a "police state" for the rich; even the war on drugs is in support of the rich (big pharma), just as our middle east excursions are (big oil).  We lock up more people for drugs and black market drug activity than any other country in the world.  We have killed more people in the world over oil, than any other country in the world.  This "ain't" the country our founder's envisioned.  In fact, we revolted against such a country and the occupy movement is hopefully the beginning of the revolt required to get back to our foundation; the Constitution for the people, not bought by and for the wealthiest few.   

So if the protesters are tearing shit up just let 'em go.  Is that what you're saying?  Stand back and let them overturn cars, burn the flag, break windows, trash property in general, and take over.  Ya, real smart dude.  :rolleyes:

LMAO!  The poster above me saw video of the Penn St. Riot and thinks it was the Occupy Wall St. crowd.

Tell ya what Ex why don't you just don your finest and take a trip to DC this weekend and join in with them.  Don't forget to take pictures so you can back up your eyewitness account of that peaceful movement. 

Just got back from D.C. two weeks ago.  The city was not on fire.

Quote from: Exterminator on November 11, 2011, 04:11:31 PM
Just got back from D.C. two weeks ago.  The city was not on fire.

Far from it. I live just outside of DC. The protesters have turned McPherson Square into an organized, peaceful hub of activity that many claim is good for the city.

(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/lifestyle/explore-occupy-dc/)

And in case you're harboring any doubts about my claims that I just came back from there, here's a picture of my truck near the tomb of the unknown soldier in the Arlington National Cemetery (we can drive in because we have family buried there):

(http://keithgrossman.com/arlingtruck.jpg)

And here's a picture of what the National Mall looked like when I stopped by (look it up):

(http://keithgrossman.com/mall.jpg)

Quote from: Exterminator on November 11, 2011, 04:11:31 PM
Just got back from D.C. two weeks ago.  The city was not on fire.

They weren't there two weeks ago they were still in NY.

Quote from: me on November 11, 2011, 07:04:06 PM
They weren't there two weeks ago they were still in NY.

LMAO!  Really?  So you're saying that there were no "Occupy" protestors in D.C. two weeks ago...so, no such protestors in the city as of, say, October 27th; right?

How about you just stick to shit that you know like baking cookies and changing the diapers of your retarded, inbred grand-children and leave the serious conversations to the adults who have an IQ above 70 and a clue about what's going on in the world around them; eh?

Quote from: Exterminator on November 11, 2011, 09:56:38 PM
LMAO!  Really?  So you're saying that there were no "Occupy" protestors in D.C. two weeks ago...so, no such protestors in the city as of, say, October 27th; right?

How about you just stick to shit that you know like baking cookies and changing the diapers of your retarded, inbred grand-children and leave the serious conversations to the adults who have an IQ above 70 and a clue about what's going on in the world around them; eh?

Hey ass wipe lay off the family I don't give a shit what you call me or say but you don't start that shit. 

Quote from: Exterminator on November 11, 2011, 09:56:38 PM
LMAO!  Really?  So you're saying that there were no "Occupy" protestors in D.C. two weeks ago...so, no such protestors in the city as of, say, October 27th; right?

How about you just stick to shit that you know like baking cookies and changing the diapers of your retarded, inbred grand-children and leave the serious conversations to the adults who have an IQ above 70 and a clue about what's going on in the world around them; eh?

   :wink: :biggrin:  You have such a way with words.  :thumbsup:

Quote from: The Troll on November 12, 2011, 09:11:19 AM
   :wink: :biggrin:  You have such a way with words.  :thumbsup:

He sure does sounds right about kindergarten level.

Quote from: me on November 12, 2011, 10:00:30 AM
He sure does sounds right about kindergarten level.

  He makes more sense to me than you do.   :rolleyes: :yes:

Quote from: The Troll on November 12, 2011, 10:17:35 AM
  He makes more sense to me than you do.   :rolleyes: :yes:

That's because, even though you aren't as bad most times, you both use the same tactics so you would understand rude, crude, and socially unacceptable before you would understand reasonable, civil, and sociable conversation. I have a feeling though that neither of you voice your opinions to anyone face to face in the same manner or your would both be toothless and in the hospital a lot with broken noses and jaws.

Here's a clue for you: I don't know your family any more than you know the Occupy Wall Street protestors.  How is my talking shit about people I don't know worse than your doing so?

Quote from: Exterminator on November 12, 2011, 10:43:45 AM
Here's a clue for you: I don't know your family any more than you know the Occupy Wall Street protestors.  How is my talking shit about people I don't know worse than your doing so?

Uh, read what you said about my family and even me for that manner.  I have said nothing that derogatory about the OWS people, as a matter of fact I have said nothing about any one of them as an individual.  I have only posted stories about things they have been doing the same as was done by you and others about the Tea Party so don't even try that one.

Quote from: me on November 12, 2011, 10:38:48 AM
That's because, even though you aren't as bad most times, you both use the same tactics

And your tactics? Throw out lies for us to wade through.  :rolleyes:

Quote from: Olias on November 12, 2011, 11:14:32 AM
And your tactics? Throw out lies for us to wade through.  :rolleyes:

Nope, voice my opinion just like the rest of you based on what I believe the same as the rest of you.  Opinions differ which is as it should be and no one should be put down for having a different opinion in a way some do on here.  Disagreed with, yes, but called names and put down, no.  It serves no purpose other than to make the one doing the name calling and put downs look juvenile and like they don't have a valid response so that's what they have to resort to.

Quote from: me on November 12, 2011, 11:12:01 AM
Uh, read what you said about my family and even me for that manner.  I have said nothing that derogatory about the OWS people, as a matter of fact I have said nothing about any one of them as an individual.  I have only posted stories about things they have been doing the same as was done by you and others about the Tea Party so don't even try that one.

You're a lying bitch.  And inasmuch as you are clearly retarded, it only stands to reason that your hell-spawn and theirs would be as well.

Quote from: Exterminator on November 12, 2011, 11:05:53 PM
You're a lying bitch.  And inasmuch as you are clearly retarded, it only stands to reason that your hell-spawn and theirs would be as well.

See what I mean Troll...nuf said? 

So what you really mean is not that someone shouldn't be put down for having a different opinion but that someone shouldn't be put down for continuing to spread garbage even after it has been proven to be absolute lies?  Sorry about your luck there, loser, but when you spread lies, you should expect to be called a liar.  Thye simple solution to the problem you're experiencing is to get some fucking integrity...like that's ever going to happen.

Quote from: Exterminator on November 13, 2011, 01:02:03 AM
So what you really mean is not that someone shouldn't be put down for having a different opinion but that someone shouldn't be put down for continuing to spread garbage even after it has been proven to be absolute lies?  Sorry about your luck there, loser, but when you spread lies, you should expect to be called a liar.  Thye simple solution to the problem you're experiencing is to get some fucking integrity...like that's ever going to happen.

Calling a person a liar and doing what you're doing are two different things.  I did not say those things I simply posted a news report so if it is not the truth call the source a liar and dispute it not me and to include my family in such a manner is uncalled for. 

Oh, and on a side note that was a CBS report not Fox.

Quote from: me on November 13, 2011, 01:20:35 AM
Calling a person a liar and doing what you're doing are two different things.  I did not say those things I simply posted a news report so if it is not the truth call the source a liar and dispute it not me and to include my family in such a manner is uncalled for. 

Oh, and on a side note that was a CBS report not Fox.

  I got to say one thing EX.  "ME" and Turd Blossom is on the same page.   :yes: :rolleyes:

Quote from: me on November 12, 2011, 12:16:55 PM
Nope, voice my opinion just like the rest of you based on what I believe the same as the rest of you.  Opinions differ which is as it should be and no one should be put down for having a different opinion in a way some do on here.  Disagreed with, yes, but called names and put down, no.  It serves no purpose other than to make the one doing the name calling and put downs look juvenile and like they don't have a valid response so that's what they have to resort to.

And is this your opinion about the Occupy DC protesters?

Quote from: me on November 11, 2011, 07:04:06 PM
They weren't there two weeks ago they were still in NY.

When in fact they were in DC as early as October 6?

Yep. Opinion! Like your opinion that grapes can't grow in England!

:rolleyes:

Quote from: me on November 13, 2011, 01:20:35 AM
I did not say those things I simply posted a news report

When you spread the lies of others, they become your own.

Quote from: me on November 11, 2011, 11:14:55 AM
So if the protesters are tearing shit up just let 'em go.  Is that what you're saying?  Stand back and let them overturn cars, burn the flag, break windows, trash property in general, and take over.  Ya, real smart dude.  :rolleyes:

They should only break stuff used against them.  As to burning the flag; have at it.  Every right to do so.

Quote from: Exterminator on November 11, 2011, 03:43:07 PM
LMAO!  The poster above me saw video of the Penn St. Riot and thinks it was the Occupy Wall St. crowd.

That's what I thought as well. Goofy Penn St rioters were out breaking stuff.  I haven't seen any occupy group break anything, although they may have.  Penn St rioters are a bunch of right-wing types who were out to protest PA's firing for what appear to be criminal acts.  Those same assholes defend Cain on the same kinds of acts.  Pathetic fascist bastards all. 

  :yes:

Quote from: Exterminator on November 12, 2011, 11:05:53 PM
You're a lying bitch.  And inasmuch as you are clearly retarded, it only stands to reason that your hell-spawn and theirs would be as well.

:yes:

Quote from: dan foster on November 13, 2011, 10:10:38 AM
They should only break stuff used against them.  As to burning the flag; have at it.  Every right to do so.

I would like to add:

There were plenty of colonists burning British flags leading up to our revolution against same.  As to destruction of property....you teabaggers sure like to point to the destruction of personal property (boston tea party) as a symbol of YOUR revolt against the government.  Of course, YOUR revolt is against a black man as president.

Quote from: me on November 13, 2011, 01:20:35 AM
Calling a person a liar and doing what you're doing are two different things.  I did not say those things I simply posted a news report so if it is not the truth call the source a liar and dispute it not me and to include my family in such a manner is uncalled for. 

Oh, and on a side note that was a CBS report not Fox.

Its good you at least recognize the Fox only lies.  There may be hope for you, after all.

i wonder if occupy wall street will move to occupy days inn when the weather gets cold?

Quote from: damfast on November 13, 2011, 10:55:25 AM
i wonder if occupy wall street will move to occupy days inn when the weather gets cold?

I would imagine so especially if they serve a continental breakfast.

Oh gee I found more lies about the wonderful OWS movement.  Imagine that.  :rolleyes:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2060989/Occupy-Philadelphia-Woman-raped-police-crack-protesters-US.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

http://www.standard.net/topics/occupy-wall-street   There's a bunch of them here

  People of America, take a rest.  "ME" is watching the Occupy Wall Street Gang.  Why she so interested in what is going on, she must be trying to figure out how to put this on Obama and the Democrats.

  It seem that anything the Tea Party did was OK.  Even carrying assault automatic rifles to their party.  What a D. A.  :jester:

Quote from: The Troll on November 13, 2011, 05:24:43 PM
  People of America, take a rest.  "ME" is watching the Occupy Wall Street Gang.  Why she so interested in what is going on, she must be trying to figure out how to put this on Obama and the Democrats.

  It seem that anything the Tea Party did was OK.  Even carrying assault automatic rifles to their party.  What a D. A.  :jester:

Oh no Troll.  don't you know those are all lies?  The media is just picking on those poor OWS people.  That's a bunch of kids just expressing their dissatisfaction with the system.  Oh and they take their little kids with them so it must be safe. 

Now the Tea Party on the other hand was a bunch of old social security drawing scum sucking rednecks who carry assault rifles and went around destroying everything in their site and leaving trash and filth behind when they left.  Oh yes, and they also raped, killed, and defecated on things and threw bodily fluids at concession stands who set up to help them because they expected them to pay for their food and drink. Not to mention the drug dealers and gangs who joined them.  Damn man didn't you see the Huffington reports?

LMAO!  Some sources you've got there...a British tabloid and some unknown newspaper in Utah.  How many hours a day do you spend trying to find news stories that will support what you want to believe?

Quote from: Olias on November 13, 2011, 09:53:31 AM
When you spread the lies of others, they become your own.

Exactly...not that it would matter much to someone with zero integrity anyway.

Quote from: Exterminator on November 13, 2011, 07:45:53 PM
LMAO!  Some sources you've got there...a British tabloid and some unknown newspaper in Utah.  How many hours a day do you spend trying to find news stories that will support what you want to believe?

Hey dude I was just showing the lies that everyone but NBC and the mainstream media is telling about those OWS people ya know.  Such a shame they're picking on those poor innocent people. 

Quote from: Exterminator on November 13, 2011, 07:45:53 PM
LMAO!  Some sources you've got there...a British tabloid and some unknown newspaper in Utah.  How many hours a day do you spend trying to find news stories that will support what you want to believe?

Probably some local rag that just reports the local news and needed to use sensationalism to sell so they had to invent something since they're probably so little they don't get news feeds.  Heck they might even still use a printing press.   

Quote from: Exterminator on November 13, 2011, 07:45:53 PM
LMAO!  Some sources you've got there...a British tabloid and some unknown newspaper in Utah.  How many hours a day do you spend trying to find news stories that will support what you want to believe?

  Come on Man, she looking for a blessing from the Sky Daddy.  :pray: :preach: :pope:   :rolleyes: :biggrin:

Quote from: The Troll on November 13, 2011, 08:59:43 PM
  Come on Man, she looking for a blessing from the Sky Daddy.  :pray: :preach: :pope:   :rolleyes: :biggrin:

Boy are you wrong on that one Trolly baby. I knew you didn't pay any attention to anything but just ran your mouth.

Quote from: me on November 13, 2011, 10:17:33 PM
Boy are you wrong on that one Trolly baby. I knew you didn't pay any attention to anything but just ran your mouth.

  You sure going to have to come up with something better than this.  :sun: Sun Shine.   :wink: :smile:

Quote from: The Troll on November 13, 2011, 11:18:45 PM
  You sure going to have to come up with something better than this.  :sun: Sun Shine.   :wink: :smile:

If you paid any attention at all you'd know I'm an agnostic and would have known that sky daddy comment did not apply.

Quote from: me on November 14, 2011, 12:17:39 AM
If you paid any attention at all you'd know I'm an agnostic and would have known that sky daddy comment did not apply.

  You know what an Agnostic is a person who is too chicken :chick: to just come out and say she is a Atheist.

  Why, because there might be a Sky Daddy and he might come down and smite you and burn you in Hell for ever and ever, because he LOVES :love: You.  Right, Tinker Bell ?   :tink:

  Being a Teabagger would be enough for that treatment.   :biggrin: 

Quote from: The Troll on November 14, 2011, 07:56:11 AM
  You know what an Agnostic is a person who is too chicken :chick: to just come out and say she is a Atheist.

  Why, because there might be a Sky Daddy and he might come down and smite you and burn you in Hell for ever and ever, because he LOVES :love: You.  Right, Tinker Bell ?   :tink:

  Being a Teabagger would be enough for that treatment.   :biggrin:

Ya know what?  I have a daughter and two grandson's who are atheists and they are much more tolerant of other peoples beliefs and religions than you, Ex, and Dan could possibly ever be.  But then again they aren't ass holes either.

Quote from: me on November 14, 2011, 02:03:53 PM
Ya know what?  I have a daughter and two grandson's who are atheists and they are much more tolerant of other peoples beliefs and religions than you, Ex, and Dan could possibly ever be.  But then again they aren't ass holes either.

The issue is that those who can successfully cast off the whole concept of the "sky daddy" generally are more intelligent than those who continue to wallow in that belief system.  There are data that support that. 

The issue is that it becomes more and more difficult to dumb down the discourse to that level.  When you have people who believe in non-existent fantasy, and then they try and control national discourse and vote based on that fantasy, it really becomes dangerous to the common good.

Religion really is one of the vilest memes to ever come down the pike.  :yes:

Quote from: Locutus on November 14, 2011, 02:12:57 PM
The issue is that those who can successfully cast off the whole concept of the "sky daddy" generally are more intelligent than those who continue to wallow in that belief system.  There are data that support that. 

The issue is that it becomes more and more difficult to dumb down the discourse to that level.  When you have people who believe in non-existent fantasy, and then they try and control national discourse and vote based on that fantasy, it really becomes dangerous to the common good.

Religion really is one of the vilest memes to ever come down the pike.  :yes:

But they still shouldn't be put down for their beliefs.  Disagreed with, yes, put down and shamed, no.

Quote from: me on November 14, 2011, 02:03:53 PM
Ya know what?  I have a daughter and two grandson's who are atheists and they are much more tolerant of other peoples beliefs and religions than you, Ex, and Dan could possibly ever be.  But then again they aren't ass holes either.

  You know if the religious people would keep it to theirselves I could go along with it.  But OH no, the want to shove their religion down everyone throat.

  Pass laws to better their stature in life ad give them more power.  The want to take their holy book and with all of the bullshit in it as the law book in this world.

  For I don't care what they worship, a golden calf, mushrooms, holy water, holy smoke, narcissism, the sun, Allah or what ever it is.  Don't fuck around with me or my ilk.

  And I will tell you when you mess with me on this stupid religion crap, I will be an ASSHOLE!  :jc:

Quote from: me on November 14, 2011, 02:03:53 PM
Ya know what?  I have a daughter and two grandson's who are atheists and they are much more tolerant of other peoples beliefs and religions than you, Ex, and Dan could possibly ever be.  But then again they aren't ass holes either.

Because it's hard to be an asshole when your IQ is 70.

Quote from: Exterminator on November 15, 2011, 08:00:14 AM
Because it's hard to be an asshole when your IQ is 70.

  Watching the police, the way they handle the removal of the OWS demonstrates made me think of the way the Nazi Storm Troopers handed the Jews in Germany.

  Full battle gear, storm trooper boots, clubs, gas masks, chemical and automatic weapons.  Just like I have said, we are living in a police state and the sheeple don't know it.

  The police is nothing more that a military force.  We better never the bastard take our guns.   :mad: :mad: :mad: :rant:

Quote from: Exterminator on November 15, 2011, 08:00:14 AM
Because it's hard to be an asshole when your IQ is 70.

You don't seem to have a problem with it but then yours isn't quite that high judging from the content of most of your posts.

Quote from: The Troll on November 15, 2011, 08:30:34 AM
  Watching the police, the way they handle the removal of the OWS demonstrates made me think of the way the Nazi Storm Troopers handed the Jews in Germany.

  Full battle gear, storm trooper boots, clubs, gas masks, chemical and automatic weapons.  Just like I have said, we are living in a police state and the sheeple don't know it.

  The police is nothing more that a military force.  We better never the bastard take our guns.   :mad: :mad: :mad: :rant:

Ya, awful isn't it.  They should have left them alone in all their filth and stink to further their cause and disrupt the lives of others not to mention destroy the park they took over. 

Quote from: The Troll on November 15, 2011, 08:30:34 AM
  Watching the police, the way they handle the removal of the OWS demonstrates made me think of the way the Nazi Storm Troopers handed the Jews in Germany.

  Full battle gear, storm trooper boots, clubs, gas masks, chemical and automatic weapons.  Just like I have said, we are living in a police state and the sheeple don't know it.

  The police is nothing more that a military force.  We better never the bastard take our guns.   :mad: :mad: :mad: :rant:

http://tv.breitbart.com/caught-on-video-occupy-protester-defecates-in-public-street/ (http://tv.breitbart.com/caught-on-video-occupy-protester-defecates-in-public-street/)

Yeah, I guess the police should wipe their @sses too!........... those poor people just trying to do what is right.... :rolleyes:

Do you have any proof that that is an OWS protestor and not just some random crazy street person?  Let me answer that for you...no.  Heck, I can't even see crap on the sidewalk after the person allegedly defecated?

 :rolleyes:

You're spreading allegations as fact, otherwise known as lying.

Quote from: Exterminator on November 15, 2011, 10:29:18 AM
You're spreading allegations as fact, otherwise known as lying.

the guy who took the video states: Caught On Video: #Occupy Protester Defecates In Public Street......

You decide.........I'm not holding a bible swearing this is the truth, but I think the guy in the video is at a minumum pulling his pants down in public, and squating as if he is crapping...........that alone is breaking the law.

I have heard enough first hand accounts of such act going on...........so, there is NO real surprise here. 

Quote from: Exterminator on November 15, 2011, 10:29:18 AM
You're spreading allegations as fact, otherwise known as lying.

so are the girls allegating about sexual harrassment by Cain also Liars?

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 15, 2011, 10:34:25 AM
the guy who took the video states: Caught On Video: #Occupy Protester Defecates In Public Street......

And who is that guy, how does he know whether or not that person is one of the protestors and why should I believe him?

QuoteYou decide.........I'm not holding a bible swearing this is the truth, but I think the guy in the video is at a minumum pulling his pants down in public, and squating as if he is crapping...........that alone is breaking the law.

I can't even tell from the video if that is a man or a woman or whether or not the person actually drops trou.  For all you know, the event is entirely staged and the person appearing on the video could very well be working with the person shooting the video to make it appear that person is with the protestors (even though the person doesn't seem to originate from the encampment or return to it).  It isn't as though you whack jobs haven't proven your willingness to flat out lie to make a point...you, yourself do it here all of the time.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 15, 2011, 10:35:46 AM
so are the girls allegating about sexual harrassment by Cain also Liars?

That's exactly why I asked the question...you seem to be pretty selective in whose allegations you believe and whose you dismiss.

You could be right about Cain's accusers, though; it could very well be that over a decade ago, several women independently came to the conclusion that Herman Cain might some day run for president and decided to file sexual harassment charges against him so they'd have some dirt on him if that ever came to pass.  That scenario sounds perfectly feasible.   :rolleyes:

  Isn't it amazing how we have two ass hole hicks in sticks of Indiana complaining about what is going on in New York.

  You always can tell who is the Republicans.  Nibshits, know it all ass holes.   :rant:

Quote from: The Troll on November 15, 2011, 12:22:55 PM
  Isn't it amazing how we have two ass hole hicks in sticks of Indiana complaining about what is going on in New York.

  You always can tell who is the Republicans.  Nibshits, know it all ass holes.   :rant:

would you like a handkerchief to wipe those tears off?

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 15, 2011, 12:39:33 PM
would you like a handkerchief to wipe those tears off?

  Hawk baby, you and "ME" are doing the crying.  :cry:  :cry:   :cry:       :cry:

Quote from: The Troll on November 15, 2011, 12:41:35 PM
  Hawk baby, you and "ME" are doing the crying.  :cry: :cry:   :cry:       :cry:

Not me, I got something to look forward too next year, when American takes back this Nation.....with some conservatism. :yes:

We'll see!

Quote from: Exterminator on November 15, 2011, 01:29:16 PM
We'll see!

yes, we will.

Quote from: Exterminator on November 15, 2011, 11:13:53 AM
And who is that guy, how does he know whether or not that person is one of the protestors and why should I believe him?

I can't even tell from the video if that is a man or a woman or whether or not the person actually drops trou.  For all you know, the event is entirely staged and the person appearing on the video could very well be working with the person shooting the video to make it appear that person is with the protestors (even though the person doesn't seem to originate from the encampment or return to it).  It isn't as though you whack jobs haven't proven your willingness to flat out lie to make a point...you, yourself do it here all of the time.

You believe all the allegations against the Tea Party so what's the difference in our believing the allegations against the OWS?

(Stay tuned for the same old same old reply drummed into the heads of the left wingers.  It will start with a put down and go downhill from there I'm sure.)  :rolleyes:

Quote from: me on November 15, 2011, 02:11:39 PM
You believe all the allegations against the Tea Party so what's the difference in our believing the allegations against the OWS?

(Stay tuned for the same old same old reply drummed into the heads of the left wingers.  It will start with a put down and go downhill from there I'm sure.)  :rolleyes:

I believe half of what I see and none of what I hear; I saw the tea party in action, live and in person!  Also saw the beginning of the tea prty demonstration here in Indy...no comparison.

Wonder where those OWS people are getting their money.  They have been in that park in NY for 2 months now so it's obvious none of them have jobs and if they have the funds to be there with no visible means of support they are either on welfare, mom and dad are giving them money, or they aren't really part of the 99%.  Which do you think it is?

Quote from: me on November 16, 2011, 09:35:34 AM
Wonder where those OWS people are getting their money.  They have been in that park in NY for 2 months now so it's obvious none of them have jobs and if they have the funds to be there with no visible means of support they are either on welfare, mom and dad are giving them money, or they aren't really part of the 99%.  Which do you think it is?

Unlike you, 70% of the OWS protestors are employed.

You know, I have somewhat restrained myself from leaving my outright opinon on this topic........but, it seems to me, in a nutshell,  that these guys who are protesting actually believe that their survival and well-being, is at the mercy of our government and corporations to fix things for them.  They are entirely dependant on these guys, and want them to provide everything for them...............not just opportunities to pick themselves up by the boot straps and try to make a "go of it"......but to actually GIVE them handouts without earning them, but because they believe they are "entitled' to the things others had to work for.
All of this "parking" out on the streets, holding signs for days on end, seems for a lack of better words....stupid.  In my opinion, they are nothing more than puppets.....mindless puppets.  Many have NO CLUE to what our Constitution grants us, but are parroting venom.  The want something for nothing.
THAT is my 2 cents worth toward this whole fiasco.

Quote from: Exterminator on November 16, 2011, 09:55:09 AM
Unlike you, 70% of the OWS protestors are employed.

Then explain what kind of job they have that will allow them to take off for so long to protest.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 16, 2011, 11:19:09 AM
THAT is my 2 cents worth toward this whole fiasco.

And you're completely wrong.

While they are admittedly not very adept at delivering their message, the premise of their protest is that wealthy people in this country, by way of their ability to make large campaign contributions, are able to buy influence into our legislative process that common citizens don't have.  That influence has been used to enact and/or repeal legislation to the benefit of those people and to the detriment of the rest of society.

You people talk a good game about wanting a free-market economy and then bash the only people who have balls enough to stand up and demand it.

Quote from: Exterminator on November 16, 2011, 01:53:19 PM
And you're completely wrong.

While they are admittedly not very adept at delivering their message, the premise of their protest is that wealthy people in this country, by way of their ability to make large campaign contributions, are able to buy influence into our legislative process that common citizens don't have.  That influence has been used to enact and/or repeal legislation to the benefit of those people and to the detriment of the rest of society.

You people talk a good game about wanting a free-market economy and then bash the only people who have balls enough to stand up and demand it.

What they are demanding is their share and they don't have a share in it.  You either work for it and earn it or you don't it is not the governments job to make sure everyone is equal because they aren't, some by choice and some by chance, but everyone has the right to "earn" that opportunity it should not be just handed to them.  Didn't work in Greece, didn't work in the UK and it ain't gonna work here.

Quote from: me on November 16, 2011, 02:17:13 PM
What they are demanding is their share and they don't have a share in it.

That is not what they're demanding or even remotely suggesting at all.  Why don't you learn something about what their point is before you start making assumptions and spreading your lies?

Quotework in Greece, didn't work in the UK and it ain't gonna work here.

I see what's going on in Europe is equally out of your depth.   :rolleyes:

< Locutus sits back and watches Exterminator's comments fly right over me's head. >

:biggrin:

Quote from: Locutus on November 16, 2011, 02:30:00 PM
< Locutus sits back and watches Exterminator's comments fly right over me's head. >

:biggrin:

Why do I even try?

Quote from: Exterminator on November 16, 2011, 02:32:58 PM
Why do I even try?

Perhaps it springs out of the frustration that this forum is a microcosm of society in general.  Our country is full of people who are all too willing to vociferously opine on things they clearly know nothing about.   

Quote from: Locutus on November 16, 2011, 02:37:32 PM
Perhaps it springs out of the frustration that this forum is a microcosm of society in general.  Our country is full of people who are all too willing to vociferously opine on things they clearly know nothing about.   

Locutus,
lay off of exterminator.  He tries his best.....he just does not get it.  No sense in being rude, RIGHT in front of him!!

Ah!  A commodian in the house!

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=commodian

:biggrin:

Quote from: Locutus on November 16, 2011, 02:30:00 PM
< Locutus sits back and watches Exterminator's comments fly right over me's head. >

:biggrin:

You don't have to aim very high for that when the head is up the proverbial .....  well, you know....  :wink:

Quote from: Olias on November 16, 2011, 03:37:15 PM
You don't have to aim very high for that when the head is up the proverbial .....  well, you know....  :wink:

:rotfl:  :biggrin:

QuoteQuote from: Exterminator on Today at 09:55:09 AM

    Unlike you, 70% of the OWS protestors are employed.

Quote from: me on November 16, 2011, 01:11:21 PM
Then explain what kind of job they have that will allow them to take off for so long to protest.

Still don't see an answer to this one Ex.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 16, 2011, 02:41:02 PM
Locutus,
lay off of exterminator.  He tries his best.....he just does not get it.  No sense in being rude, RIGHT in front of him!!

Your statement pretty much hits the nail on the head HH.  There are a bunch on here who just don't/won't get it.
And they call us sheeple??????  Go figure.   :rolleyes:

Quote from: me on November 16, 2011, 05:24:04 PM
Your statement pretty much hits the nail on the head HH.  There are a bunch on here who just don't/won't get it.
And they call us sheeple??????  Go figure.   :rolleyes:

  Hey, "ME" don't go out into the woods.  The squirrels are gathering nut for the winter.  :doh:

Quote from: Exterminator on November 16, 2011, 02:32:58 PM
Why do I even try?

Because boredom must be relieved, and when relief presents itself it must be taken advantage of!  :biggrin:

Quote from: me on November 16, 2011, 05:11:31 PM
Still don't see an answer to this one Ex.

While you're waiting for his answer maybe you could find time to answer mine over here ....
http://theunknownzone.us/smf/index.php?topic=16971.msg418435#msg418435 (http://theunknownzone.us/smf/index.php?topic=16971.msg418435#msg418435)

Quote from: Olias on November 15, 2011, 12:51:29 PM
If that someone goes to the ER, then I pay.

"The American Hospital Association reports that U.S. hospitals lost $34 billion in 2007 to bad debt and charity cases."

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/06/17/nine-texans-2-678-emergency-room-visits-its-time-to-say-no/ (http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/06/17/nine-texans-2-678-emergency-room-visits-its-time-to-say-no/)

somebody has to pay for all that care, so who does?

"It is spread out on the population of people that has private insurance," Earls said.

http://www.katu.com/news/specialreports/40852722.html (http://www.katu.com/news/specialreports/40852722.html)

Health care costs for the uninsured are paid for in higher costs, higher premiums, and government programs paid for with tax dollars.  We already pay for the uninsured.  The question is, how do we reduce health care costs we already pay for?  We reduce costs with preventive medicine and keeping Americans healthy.
http://www.greenbusinessowner.com/public/Health_Care_Costs_for_the_Uninsured_and_Who_Pays.cfm (http://www.greenbusinessowner.com/public/Health_Care_Costs_for_the_Uninsured_and_Who_Pays.cfm)

Quote from: Olias on November 15, 2011, 03:21:14 PM
Would you rather believe the CDC? These figures are from 2007, so they are a little dated. Still, they confirm my earlier post.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db38.pdf (http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db38.pdf)

Quote from: me on November 16, 2011, 05:11:31 PM
Still don't see an answer to this one Ex.

Most people only work 40 hours a week.  You would know this had you ever held a job.

  :music1: Crazy :music1: Crazy :music1:  That's "Meeeeee" :music1: :music1:  :bliss:   :music1:    :bliss:     :music1: to the tune of "CRAZY"  :biggrin:

Quote from: me on November 16, 2011, 01:11:21 PM
Then explain what kind of job they have that will allow them to take off for so long to protest.

  Dummy, they're unemployed, they can't find a job.  Some are just out of college, huge college loans and unemployed.  Some are old people who have lost their homes and their jobs.  The OWS are a diverse group of people and they are not just dirty hippies.  There are some people in this country that cares what happen to it.  Not you, you're blind to the injustice.

  But in watching the cops hose down college kid with military grade pepper spray on their own college grounds and are peaceful.  I'll bet it makes you really happy these kids got their just due. 

  "ME" you're a real sick puppy.  :puke:

Quote from: The Troll on November 22, 2011, 08:40:31 PM
    But in watching the cops hose down college kid with military grade pepper spray on their own college grounds and are peaceful.  I'll bet it makes you really happy these kids got their just due. 

  "ME" you're a real sick puppy.  :puke:

Those kids were ASKED by college officials to leave.  They are on College property.  The College Cops decided to use pepper spray instead of force.  They had their chance to leave.  The opted not too....they got what they deserved.  The college police were doing the job asked by college administrators. 
Quit reading teh Huffington post for your news will ya?

Have you watched the video of the pepper spraying of those students HH?   

Quote from: Locutus on November 22, 2011, 10:52:19 PM
Have you watched the video of the pepper spraying of those students HH?

  If the Hawk seen it, it was on Fox.  Where the dumb blond and O'Riley said that it was actually a food produce made from hot peppers and cause mild burning.  Not so it is a military grade pepper spray made from Capsaicin, hotter than any know pepper know to man.

  Henery, I bought my wife a large of pepper spray it called Grizzly Bear Stopper.  Come over to where I live and I will be more happy and please to hose you down and I will do it free.

  Or you could go to Marshes and buy some Habanero peppers, mash them in a bowl and pour the peppers into you eyes.  You will find the amount of heat is only about 1 tenth of what military pepper spray.

  Henery did you ever hear of the Constitution.   My god what a dumb ass.  :wacko:

Quote from: The Troll on November 22, 2011, 08:40:31 PM
  Dummy, they're unemployed, they can't find a job.  Some are just out of college, huge college loans and unemployed.  Some are old people who have lost their homes and their jobs.  The OWS are a diverse group of people and they are not just dirty hippies.  There are some people in this country that cares what happen to it.  Not you, you're blind to the injustice.

  But in watching the cops hose down college kid with military grade pepper spray on their own college grounds and are peaceful.  I'll bet it makes you really happy these kids got their just due. 

  "ME" you're a real sick puppy.  :puke:

Hum, if they're unemployed and have no money how are they affording to eat and stay away from home for so long?  Also why aren't they looking for employment instead of disrupting the lives of others who are trying to get to their jobs? 

Oh, and as for the cops using pepper spray on those kids...Did you see the footage where they had the cops surrounded and wouldn't let them leave?  I thought not....Maybe that's why they got sprayed ya think?  When ya see the footage from a different angle ya understand a little better what really happened. 

Quote from: The Troll on November 22, 2011, 11:27:59 PM
  If the Hawk seen it, it was on Fox.  Where the dumb blond and O'Riley said that it was actually a food produce made from hot peppers and cause mild burning.  Not so it is a military grade pepper spray made from Capsaicin, hotter than any know pepper know to man.

  Henery, I bought my wife a large of pepper spray it called Grizzly Bear Stopper.  Come over to where I live and I will be more happy and please to hose you down and I will do it free.

  Or you could go to Marshes and buy some Habanero peppers, mash them in a bowl and pour the peppers into you eyes.  You will find the amount of heat is only about 1 tenth of what military pepper spray.

  Henery did you ever hear of the Constitution.   My god what a dumb ass.  :wacko:

They were asked to leave private property.  They were being disobedient and disruptive.  Where is the right to disturb the peace and rally on private property covered in the constitution? 

How do you know what kind of pepper spray was being used?  Were you there? 

Quote from: me on November 23, 2011, 12:44:47 AM
They were asked to leave private property.  They were being disobedient and disruptive.  Where is the right to disturb the peace and rally on private property covered in the constitution? 

How do you know what kind of pepper spray was being used?  Were you there?

  Three sent to the hospital.  Jesus Christ are you one of the meanest asshole I have ever seen.  God damn I love to give you a hosing down with the same pepper spray and say, "why it's just a food product."  You really make me sick.  :puke:  :puke:  :puke:

Quote from: The Troll on November 23, 2011, 09:17:58 AM
  Three sent to the hospital.  Jesus Christ are you one of the meanest asshole I have ever seen.  God damn I love to give you a hosing down with the same pepper spray and say, "why it's just a food product."  You really make me sick.  :puke:  :puke:  :puke:

Troll, those kids was given a notice 24 hours before that if they did not stop the occupy position, they would be moved and pepper sprayed.  They were on private property and they was blocking traffic for students and teachers...........they knew this was going to happen.  I say screw them.  They are brats who did not want to be told NO.  They thought they were above the law, and they found out the hard way they are not.

People like YOU make me sick...had this been a tea party group being pepper sprayed you would LOVE IT!

that is called a hypocrit!

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 23, 2011, 09:34:28 AM
Troll, those kids was given a notice 24 hours before that if they did not stop the occupy position, they would be moved and pepper sprayed.  They were on private property and they was blocking traffic for students and teachers...........they knew this was going to happen.  I say screw them.  They are brats who did not want to be told NO.  They thought they were above the law, and they found out the hard way they are not.

People like YOU make me sick...had this been a tea party group being pepper sprayed you would LOVE IT!

that is called a hypocrit!

  As usual you wrong again Hawk.  I don't want anyone sprayed with pepper spray, teargassed, beat with clubs, kicked in the legs ans shins with steel toe boots, lead weighted gloves, lead weighted flash lights, women hit in the face by some big dumb goon cop.

  What is so funny is that you Conservatives Republicans want to wave the flag, the Constitution around.  But then you want to put the Constitution on toilet paper and whip your ass on it when you think things aren't going your way.

Quote from: The Troll on November 23, 2011, 01:07:51 PM
 

  As usual you wrong again Hawk.  I don't want anyone sprayed with pepper spray, teargassed, beat with clubs, kicked in the legs ans shins with steel toe boots, lead weighted gloves, lead weighted flash lights, women hit in the face by some big dumb goon cop.

  What is so funny is that you Conservatives Republicans want to wave the flag, the Constitution around.  But then you want to put the Constitution on toilet paper and whip your ass on it when you think things aren't going your way.

Where in the constitution does it give one the right to disrupt and wreak havoc on private property? 

Quote from: me on November 23, 2011, 02:10:03 PM
Where in the constitution does it give one the right to disrupt and wreak havoc on private property?

Where in the Constitution does it give you the right to spew your tripe on an internet forum?

Quote from: Exterminator on November 23, 2011, 02:14:55 PM
Where in the Constitution does it give you the right to spew your tripe on an internet forum?

Same place it gives you your right to spew yours.  That's just a wee tad different than creating a disturbance on private property. 

Quote from: me on November 23, 2011, 02:48:33 PM
Same place it gives you your right to spew yours.  That's just a wee tad different than creating a disturbance on private property.

Not in my mind it isn't; you should pepper spray yourself.

If they come and demonstrate, camp and trash your property, its ok and you wouldn't want the police to make them leave?

Quote from: Anne on November 23, 2011, 04:30:50 PM
If they come and demonstrate, camp and trash your property, its ok and you wouldn't want the police to make them leave?

  All of you ass holes and I mean you Anne too.  It's not your property, it not costing you anything and the kids at the college were paying students there.  Just were do you get that just because they were sitting on the sidewalk that the police have the right to use the force they used.  Do you see anything like this in Washington DC, no because the police are trained to handle crowds. 

  But what don't you people that the first admendent is the right to assemble and freedom of speech and freedom.  You damn religious and stupid Conservative Republican make me sick.  You people are responsible for the goon squad cops.  Paramilitary thugs.  All of you are sickening cry babies.  :cry:  :cry:  Damn, I wish all you people could run into a rogue cop.   :yes:

Quote from: The Troll on November 23, 2011, 05:03:32 PM
  All of you ass holes and I mean you Anne too.  It's not your property, it not costing you anything and the kids at the college were paying students there.  Just were do you get that just because they were sitting on the sidewalk that the police have the right to use the force they used.  Do you see anything like this in Washington DC, no because the police are trained to handle crowds. 

  But what don't you people that the first admendent is the right to assemble and freedom of speech and freedom.  You damn religious and stupid Conservative Republican make me sick.  You people are responsible for the goon squad cops.  Paramilitary thugs.  All of you are sickening cry babies.  :cry:  :cry:  Damn, I wish all you people could run into a rogue cop.   :yes:

That college is private property and they were disrupting and disturbing not peacefully demonstrating.  It doesn't matter if they were paid students or not it is still private property and they had been asked to leave.

Quote from: me on November 23, 2011, 05:39:25 PM
That college is private property and they were disrupting and disturbing not peacefully demonstrating.  It doesn't matter if they were paid students or not it is still private property and they had been asked to leave.

  It all boils to one thing, YOU ARE A GOD DAMN FOOL!  :finger1:

Quote from: me on November 23, 2011, 05:39:25 PM
That college is private property and they were disrupting and disturbing not peacefully demonstrating.  It doesn't matter if they were paid students or not it is still private property and they had been asked to leave.

That was the same "reasoning" they used to validate shooting those students at Kent State. Didn't work then, and it ain't working now. . .

Acts of peaceful, civil disobedience are constitutionally protected within public areas. (Of which a college campus is one. Especially if students are amongst the assembly).

They made their decision to use force via chemicals, upon those assembled there, so lets see how much their student head count goes down next year. I'm betting it will drop, even as college attendance is increasing nationwide.


http://www.youtube.com/v/6AdDLhPwpp4

Quote from: Palehorse on November 23, 2011, 06:37:54 PM
That was the same "reasoning" they used to validate shooting those students at Kent State. Didn't work then, and it ain't working now. . .

I'm sure our resident morons will support what they're doing to these protestors and what happened at Kent State even while they pretend to abhor what the Chinese government did in Tiananmen square.  They simply don't get it.

Disclaimer: "me" will surely pipe up about how we all need to wake up and quit drinking the kool-aid and see the big picture, blah, blah, blah...

Quote from: Palehorse on November 23, 2011, 06:37:54 PM
That was the same "reasoning" they used to validate shooting those students at Kent State. Didn't work then, and it ain't working now. . .

Acts of peaceful, civil disobedience are constitutionally protected within public areas. (Of which a college campus is one. Especially if students are amongst the assembly).

They made their decision to use force via chemicals, upon those assembled there, so lets see how much their student head count goes down next year. I'm betting it will drop, even as college attendance is increasing nationwide.

PH, acts of peaceful, civil disobedience are fine and good.....but, camping on a college campus is against city law.....they were kindly asked NOT to camp, but they did anyway......they were warned about the pepper spay, right or wrong....the college police was merely doing thier job.  The left loved it when this happened, they got exactly what they was hoping for.....

I sadly even believe there are those on the left who would welcome another Kent State incident, JUST for the headlines...

Like I said earlier, IF a tea party group was doing this, many on here would LOVE seeing them get pepper sprayed....

this whole thing is becoming very sad.....

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 23, 2011, 08:51:21 PM
PH, acts of peaceful, civil disobedience are fine and good.....but, camping on a college campus is against city law.....they were kindly asked NOT to camp, but they did anyway......they were warned about the pepper spay, right or wrong....the college police was merely doing thier job.  The left loved it when this happened, they got exactly what they was hoping for.....

I sadly even believe there are those on the left who would welcome another Kent State incident, JUST for the headlines...

Like I said earlier, IF a tea party group was doing this, many on here would LOVE seeing them get pepper sprayed....

this whole thing is becoming very sad.....

  All I got to say to you Hawk is,  YOU'RE A GOD DAMN FOOL.  :finger2:

Quote from: The Troll on November 23, 2011, 10:35:00 PM
  All I got to say to you Hawk is,  YOU'RE A GOD DAMN FOOL.  :finger2:

i figured that would be your response....

what did I say that was foolish, other than you just want to disagree?..... :confused: :rolleyes:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 23, 2011, 08:51:21 PM
PH, acts of peaceful, civil disobedience are fine and good.....but, camping on a college campus is against city law.....they were kindly asked NOT to camp, but they did anyway......they were warned about the pepper spay, right or wrong....the college police was merely doing thier job.  The left loved it when this happened, they got exactly what they was hoping for.....

I sadly even believe there are those on the left who would welcome another Kent State incident, JUST for the headlines...

Like I said earlier, IF a tea party group was doing this, many on here would LOVE seeing them get pepper sprayed....

this whole thing is becoming very sad.....

Did you watch the video I posted? You see any tents in it? IS it daylight or dark?

What they had done the previous night or planned to do that night was not applicable to the situation. They pepper sprayed students of UC Davis who were doing nothing more than conducting a sit in - an act of civil disobedience conducted to demonstrate their objections.

If we didn't live in an "at will" state, I'd friggin join those doing the same thing out here.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 23, 2011, 08:51:21 PM
PH, acts of peaceful, civil disobedience are fine and good.....but, camping on a college campus is against city law...

Uh, do you understand what civil disobedience is?

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 23, 2011, 08:51:21 PM
PH, acts of peaceful, civil disobedience are fine and good.....but, camping on a college campus is against city law.....they were kindly asked NOT to camp, but they did anyway......they were warned about the pepper spay, right or wrong....the college police was merely doing thier job.  The left loved it when this happened, they got exactly what they was hoping for.....

I sadly even believe there are those on the left who would welcome another Kent State incident, JUST for the headlines...

Like I said earlier, IF a tea party group was doing this, many on here would LOVE seeing them get pepper sprayed....

this whole thing is becoming very sad.....

You're just looking for ANY reason to criticize the protests.

Quote from: followsthewolf on November 24, 2011, 11:13:56 AM
You're just looking for ANY reason to criticize the protests.

People fear what they don't understand, hate what they fear and kill what they hate.

   This is Thanksgiving day and I am thankful for the men who formed this country and the freedom it gave us.

  But they did not give us a Authoritarians and corporate state where the authoritarians and the wealthy ruled the country like a kingdom.  Controlling the people with the power of a paramilitary police force to rule us with an iron fist.

  As Benjamin Franklin said, "Those who would give up liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserves neither liberty nor safety."   And I believe the people who believe the paramilitary/clubs/pepper spray response to the student who are  protesting the criminal action of Wall Street and the Bankers deserves neither liberty nor safety.

  The Republicans are always crying about class warfare.  Well if the Authoritarians wealthy don't release their iron grip from the throats of the people of United States of America.  I am willing to give all of my weapons, ammunition and myself to take our country back.


                                                                 :4th3:

A journalist recently solicited online responses from OWS protestors asking them what, exactly, they wanted.  He received 100 responses with the top three demands as follows:

"The No 1 agenda item: get the money out of politics. Most often cited was legislation to blunt the effect of the Citizens United ruling, which lets boundless sums enter the campaign process. No 2: reform the banking system to prevent fraud and manipulation, with the most frequent item being to restore the Glass-Steagall Act – the Depression-era law, done away with by President Clinton, that separates investment banks from commercial banks. This law would correct the conditions for the recent crisis, as investment banks could not take risks for profit that create kale derivatives out of thin air, and wipe out the commercial and savings banks.  No 3 was the most clarifying: draft laws against the little-known loophole that currently allows members of Congress to pass legislation affecting Delaware-based corporations in which they themselves are investors."

I don't see anything unreasonable about these demands nor do I see any of them having anything to do with any of these people expecting something for nothing as our Faux News brain-washed sheeple are constantly claiming.

Quote from: Exterminator on November 26, 2011, 01:22:36 PM
A journalist recently solicited online responses from OWS protestors asking them what, exactly, they wanted.  He received 100 responses with the top three demands as follows:

"The No 1 agenda item: get the money out of politics. Most often cited was legislation to blunt the effect of the Citizens United ruling, which lets boundless sums enter the campaign process. No 2: reform the banking system to prevent fraud and manipulation, with the most frequent item being to restore the Glass-Steagall Act – the Depression-era law, done away with by President Clinton, that separates investment banks from commercial banks. This law would correct the conditions for the recent crisis, as investment banks could not take risks for profit that create kale derivatives out of thin air, and wipe out the commercial and savings banks.  No 3 was the most clarifying: draft laws against the little-known loophole that currently allows members of Congress to pass legislation affecting Delaware-based corporations in which they themselves are investors."

I don't see anything unreasonable about these demands nor do I see any of them having anything to do with any of these people expecting something for nothing as our Faux News brain-washed sheeple are constantly claiming.

  I sure agree with you statement.  But what I don't understand is, these people who claim they love animals, kids, Jesus want to let the police and the administrators, mayors and powers that be.  Club, beat, use chemical weapons, chemical gas, Tazors on our own people in peaceful protest.  They would be the loyalist to the King in the Revolution and would have executed all of the founders of our Constitution.

  I just wonder if these so called "Humans" would like the police to be this to their themselves, children and relation.  Just maybe they believe in the Old Testament, where you kill, smite, stone, behead, be-hand any person but yourself and family.

  Even tho I declare myself as an Atheist.  I am a firm believer of do UN to others has you would have done to you.   Would someone please say, Amen!

Quote from: Exterminator on November 26, 2011, 01:22:36 PM
A journalist recently solicited online responses from OWS protestors asking them what, exactly, they wanted.  He received 100 responses with the top three demands as follows:

"The No 1 agenda item: get the money out of politics. Most often cited was legislation to blunt the effect of the Citizens United ruling, which lets boundless sums enter the campaign process. No 2: reform the banking system to prevent fraud and manipulation, with the most frequent item being to restore the Glass-Steagall Act – the Depression-era law, done away with by President Clinton, that separates investment banks from commercial banks. This law would correct the conditions for the recent crisis, as investment banks could not take risks for profit that create kale derivatives out of thin air, and wipe out the commercial and savings banks.  No 3 was the most clarifying: draft laws against the little-known loophole that currently allows members of Congress to pass legislation affecting Delaware-based corporations in which they themselves are investors."

I don't see anything unreasonable about these demands nor do I see any of them having anything to do with any of these people expecting something for nothing as our Faux News brain-washed sheeple are constantly claiming.

some of those demands may not be so bad....but some of them may be questionable:

Single-payer health care...
Increased environmental regulation...
Federal job-training programs...
Student loan debt forgiveness...
Amnesty for illegals...
Massive expansion of public works projects...

and the bottom line is, I STILL say the are protesting the wrong people.....then need to be in Washington protesting....THEY are the problem!  THEY are the ones who can fix it.  Wallstreet WON'T FIX it...they CAN'T fix it...only Washington can fix it.....put pressure on THEM.....both parties.

Weren't you a proponent of the SCOTUS decision vis-à-vis the Citizens United case HH?  Wasn't it right here on this very forum?

Quote from: Exterminator on November 26, 2011, 01:22:36 PM
A journalist recently solicited online responses from OWS protestors asking them what, exactly, they wanted.  He received 100 responses with the top three demands as follows:

"The No 1 agenda item: get the money out of politics. Most often cited was legislation to blunt the effect of the Citizens United ruling, which lets boundless sums enter the campaign process. No 2: reform the banking system to prevent fraud and manipulation, with the most frequent item being to restore the Glass-Steagall Act – the Depression-era law, done away with by President Clinton, that separates investment banks from commercial banks. This law would correct the conditions for the recent crisis, as investment banks could not take risks for profit that create kale derivatives out of thin air, and wipe out the commercial and savings banks.  No 3 was the most clarifying: draft laws against the little-known loophole that currently allows members of Congress to pass legislation affecting Delaware-based corporations in which they themselves are investors."

I don't see anything unreasonable about these demands nor do I see any of them having anything to do with any of these people expecting something for nothing as our Faux News brain-washed sheeple are constantly claiming.

Then why aren't they in D C instead of disrupting businesses and college campuses? 

Quote from: me on November 27, 2011, 01:02:55 AM
Then why aren't they in D C instead of disrupting businesses and college campuses?

Because based upon the SCOTUS decision, and as I've said numerous times here, the businesses now run the government based upon their unfettered ability to buy whatever / whomever they desire, (via political funding/contributions), to facilitate their businesses needs. Our votes no longer matter. They are toilet paper!

Quote from: Palehorse on November 27, 2011, 11:12:20 AM
Because based upon the SCOTUS decision, and as I've said numerous times here, the businesses now run the government based upon their unfettered ability to buy whatever / whomever they desire, (via political funding/contributions), to facilitate their businesses needs. Our votes no longer matter. They are toilet paper!

   Yes, no college girl, what don't you understand about this corporate world and the rich people who run it.  It doesn't take an rocket scientist to figure out that equation, "ME" :genius:

Quote from: Palehorse on November 27, 2011, 11:12:20 AM
Because based upon the SCOTUS decision, and as I've said numerous times here, the businesses now run the government based upon their unfettered ability to buy whatever / whomever they desire, (via political funding/contributions), to facilitate their businesses needs. Our votes no longer matter. They are toilet paper!

So they disrupt the businesses where people are trying to go to work to support their families.  Now that's real smart.  Who does that hurt the worst?

Quote from: me on November 27, 2011, 11:48:29 AM
So they disrupt the businesses where people are trying to go to work to support their families.  Now that's real smart.  Who does that hurt the worst?

Can you provide anything to support anyone not having been able to get to work because of OWS?

Quote from: me on November 27, 2011, 11:48:29 AM
So they disrupt the businesses where people are trying to go to work to support their families.  Now that's real smart.  Who does that hurt the worst?

  "ME", out of 23,990 posts, day after day.  You don't give a damn about workers.  Union workers, state workers, Walmart workers, minimum wage workers, unemployed workers, college kids.  If fact you only care about your personal family and kissing ass :kissit: with the rich 5%.

  Anything you say about workers rights is all bullshit.  You can :azz:

Quote from: The Troll on November 27, 2011, 12:56:43 PM
You don't give a damn about workers.

She can't relate because she's never been one.

Quote from: me on November 27, 2011, 11:48:29 AM
So they disrupt the businesses where people are trying to go to work to support their families.  Now that's real smart.  Who does that hurt the worst?

:bsflag:

Quote from: Exterminator on November 27, 2011, 01:17:22 PM
She can't relate because she's never been one.

Retake your reasoning class and maybe you can pass it this time.  :rolleyes:

Quote from: me on November 27, 2011, 03:34:59 PM
Retake your reasoning class and maybe you can pass it this time.  :rolleyes:

  I got to give you something.  You're the most hard headed, unintelligent, black hearted person I have ever come across here in Indiana.  No matter what people tell you about it, try to educate you, you are totally one of the most uncompassionate, inconsiderate dumbass that there is.  :jester:

Quote from: The Troll on November 27, 2011, 04:22:20 PM
  I got to give you something.  You're the most hard headed, unintelligent, black hearted person I have ever come across here in Indiana.  No matter what people tell you about it, try to educate you, you are totally one of the most uncompassionate, inconsiderate dumbass that there is.  :jester:

You can save your money and just not even bother to take the class 'cause you'd be certain to fail.

Quote from: me on November 27, 2011, 04:43:04 PM
You can save your money and just not even bother to take the class 'cause you'd be certain to fail.

  I hope so.  I'll never reach the depravity and pure hate you have for your fellow man and woman.   :rolleyes: :razz:  You are evil. :devil29:

Quote from: The Troll on November 27, 2011, 08:24:52 PM
  I hope so.  I'll never reach the depravity and pure hate you have for your fellow man and woman.   :rolleyes: :razz:  You are evil. :devil29:

You're the one spewing all the hateful things and I'm hateful???????   :rolleyes:

Quote from: Exterminator on November 27, 2011, 12:30:49 PM
Can you provide anything to support anyone not having been able to get to work because of OWS?

Google it, there are lots of articles from a lot of different places with stories of business who have lost money and customers because of them. There is even an article in today's newspaper.

Quote from: Anne on November 27, 2011, 09:12:04 PM
Google it, there are lots of articles from a lot of different places with stories of business who have lost money and customers because of them. There is even an article in today's newspaper.

That isn't what I asked.

Quote from: Anne on November 27, 2011, 09:12:04 PM
Google it, there are lots of articles from a lot of different places with stories of business who have lost money and customers because of them. There is even an article in today's newspaper.

  I'll bet more businesses have been put out of business by one company bringing in foreign products to sell them to Americans than anything the OWS has done by 10,000 times.  I'll bet that don't make you cry.  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:

                                                                 IT'S WALMART

Quote from: me on November 27, 2011, 11:48:29 AM
So they disrupt the businesses where people are trying to go to work to support their families.  Now that's real smart.  Who does that hurt the worst?

Quote from: Anne on November 27, 2011, 09:12:04 PM
Google it, there are lots of articles from a lot of different places with stories of business who have lost money and customers because of them. There is even an article in today's newspaper.

Read what I wrote again...There is a key word in there you obviously missed.

Quote from: Exterminator on November 27, 2011, 12:30:49 PM
Can you provide anything to support anyone not having been able to get to work because of OWS?

Quote from: me on November 27, 2011, 10:18:24 PM
Read what I wrote again...There is a key word in there you obviously missed.

http://occupywallst.org/article/thousands-occupy-wall-street-all-entry-points-new-/ - 368k - Cached - Similar pages

Scroll down to their schedule for Nov. 17, states the objective to shut down NYSE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzNmwXLgz1k - 88k - Cached - Similar pages

http://news.yahoo.com/photos/occupy-wall-street-protesters-play-drums-down-block-photo-201840130.html - 173k - Cached - Similar pages

Aw, they're trying to make it difficult for the people who work on the NYSE to get to their jobs so they'll have to rely on their taxpayer-bailout-funded multi-million dollar bonuses to feed their families.  You should send those poor people some tampons.

So, if the two or three of you are such astute thinkers with all of the answers, why is the town you live in so fucked up?  Rather than waste your time criticizing others who are trying to make a change, why not get off of your asses and clean up your own back yard?

QuoteQuote from: me on November 27, 2011, 11:48:29 AM

    So they disrupt the businesses where people are trying to go to work to support their families.  Now that's real smart.  Who does that hurt the worst?

QuoteQuote from: Anne on November 27, 2011, 09:12:04 PM

    Google it, there are lots of articles from a lot of different places with stories of business who have lost money and customers because of them. There is even an article in today's newspaper.

Read what I wrote again...There is a key word in there you obviously missed.

QuoteQuote from: Exterminator on November 27, 2011, 12:30:49 PM

    Can you provide anything to support anyone not having been able to get to work because of OWS?

Quote from: Exterminator on November 27, 2011, 11:20:25 PM
Aw, they're trying to make it difficult for the people who work on the NYSE to get to their jobs so they'll have to rely on their taxpayer-bailout-funded multi-million dollar bonuses to feed their families.  You should send those poor people some tampons.

So, if the two or three of you are such astute thinkers with all of the answers, why is the town you live in so fucked up?  Rather than waste your time criticizing others who are trying to make a change, why not get off of your asses and clean up your own back yard?

Since when do stockbrokers get multimillion dollar bonuses?  Ultimately this will end up hurting the little guy worse than it will hurt any corporation because if they shut down where is anyone going to work? 

I'd still like to know where these people, who are supposed to be out of work and destitute, are getting the money to stay away from home and do all this protesting.   Who's paying for their fancy cell phones you can see them using in some of the videos? 

Quote from: me on November 28, 2011, 01:59:28 AM
Since when do stockbrokers get multimillion dollar bonuses?  Ultimately this will end up hurting the little guy worse than it will hurt any corporation because if they shut down where is anyone going to work?

You're clueless. 

QuoteI'd still like to know where these people, who are supposed to be out of work and destitute, are getting the money to stay away from home and do all this protesting.   Who's paying for their fancy cell phones you can see them using in some of the videos?

Already been answered.

I see you're conveniently dodging the question about why you aren't active in your own back yard...typical.

Stockbrokers are not CEO's and those are the people getting the big bucks.  A stockbroker may work for a brokerage firm that pays their CEO big bucks so shouldn't they be at the brokerage firm or the business rather than the stock exchange?  Why hurt the stock holders and smaller businesses who are not ones who give their CEO's big bucks? 

As far as answering my question about how these people are managing without any means of support, no, that hasn't been answered.  If they are jobless where is their money coming from?  Welfare checks?  Unemployment?  SEIU? 

In what way do you mean active in my own back yard?  I shop local and patronize small businesses here in town.

Quote from: me on November 28, 2011, 09:11:26 AM
Stockbrokers are not CEO's and those are the people getting the big bucks.  A stockbroker may work for a brokerage firm that pays their CEO big bucks so shouldn't they be at the brokerage firm or the business rather than the stock exchange?  Why hurt the stock holders and smaller businesses who are not ones who give their CEO's big bucks? 

You might want to check and see who all got bonuses in the wake of the meltdown and how much those were.

QuoteAs far as answering my question about how these people are managing without any means of support, no, that hasn't been answered.  If they are jobless where is their money coming from?  Welfare checks?  Unemployment?  SEIU? 

You're confusing your own income stream with theirs.  70% of the OWS protestors are employed and protesting suring their time off.

QuoteIn what way do you mean active in my own back yard?  I shop local and patronize small businesses here in town.

What do you do to improve the quality of life for everyone in Anderson?  Oh, that's right, you only care about your friends and relatives so everyone else can just suck it!  You sure do pretend to have the solutions to all of the world's problems but can't raise a finger to solve any of the many plaguing the rathole you live in.
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Quote from: me on November 28, 2011, 09:11:26 AM
Stockbrokers are not CEO's and those are the people getting the big bucks.  A stockbroker may work for a brokerage firm that pays their CEO big bucks so shouldn't they be at the brokerage firm or the business rather than the stock exchange?  Why hurt the stock holders and smaller businesses who are not ones who give their CEO's big bucks? 

As far as answering my question about how these people are managing without any means of support, no, that hasn't been answered.  If they are jobless where is their money coming from?  Welfare checks?  Unemployment?  SEIU? 

In what way do you mean active in my own back yard?  I shop local and patronize small businesses here in town.

  Every time I hear you speak, I visualize an anis passing gas.   :yes: :razz:  Makes no sense, but it sure stinks.  :rotfl:

Quote from: Exterminator on November 28, 2011, 09:53:35 AM
You might want to check and see who all got bonuses in the wake of the meltdown and how much those were.

Show me where regular stockbrokers who work the floor got huge bonuses.

You're confusing your own income stream with theirs.  70% of the OWS protestors are employed and protesting suring their time off.

Guess a lot of those NY protesters have lots of vacation time coming then to camp out this long.

What do you do to improve the quality of life for everyone in Anderson?  Oh, that's right, you only care about your friends and relatives so everyone else can just suck it!  You sure do pretend to have the solutions to all of the world's problems but can't raise a finger to solve any of the many plaguing the rathole you live in.
Well, for starters I contribute to the food banks, help with and attend as many benefits as possible, especially cancer benefits, donate to the Christian Center and Operation Love, and do what ever else I can to help people who are down. How's that for starters?

Quote from: me on November 28, 2011, 11:36:28 AM
Show me where regular stockbrokers who work the floor got huge bonuses.

Do your own research or choose to remain ignorant; your choice.

QuoteGuess a lot of those NY protesters have lots of vacation time coming then to camp out this long.

There are 168 hours in a week, 40 of which are typically work hours.

QuoteHow's that for starters?

Not believable.

Quote from: me on November 28, 2011, 02:01:16 AM
If ya can't get 'em on the issues go for character assassination...

Hypocritical much?

Quote from: Exterminator on November 28, 2011, 12:24:30 PM
Do your own research or choose to remain ignorant; your choice.

There are 168 hours in a week, 40 of which are typically work hours.

And if they are out protesting they aren't working.  They're living in tents and staying there remember. Well, they were 'til they got ran off so now they're sleeping where ever they can.

Not believable.
Don't matter whether you believe it or not 'cause you don't matter.

Hypocritical much?
Yep ya sure are.

Quote from: Exterminator on November 28, 2011, 09:53:35 AM

You're confusing your own income stream with theirs.  70% of the OWS protestors are employed and protesting suring their time off.

Actually, I'm looking for the link now, but a Wall Street Journal survey found that 85% of them were employed.  One would think that the Wall Street Journal would know what's going on with the OWS protesters since they're protesting Wall Street. 

Quote from: Locutus on November 28, 2011, 01:37:42 PM
Actually, I'm looking for the link now, but a Wall Street Journal survey found that 85% of them were employed.  One would think that the Wall Street Journal would know what's going on with the OWS protesters since they're protesting Wall Street.

Found one ....

"The vast majority of demonstrators are actually employed, and the proportion of protesters unemployed (15%) is within single digits of the national unemployment rate (9.1%). "
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204479504576637082965745362.html (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204479504576637082965745362.html)

Thank you!!

Reads to me like they aren't the kind of people I'd want to endorse if I were POTUS. But my question still remains. Who is paying the way for the ones that are continually protesting and staying in those tents or where ever they are holing up now?

Quote from: me on November 28, 2011, 04:46:04 PM
Reads to me like they aren't the kind of people I'd want to endorse if I were POTUS. But my question still remains. Who is paying the way for the ones that are continually protesting and staying in those tents or where ever they are holing up now?

  WHO IN THE FUCK CARES.  But we know it isn't the Koch brothers.   :wink: :biggrin:  I think they are doing a good thing. :thumbsup:

Yer a Soros man aren't ya Punky?   :wink:

Quote from: Exterminator on November 27, 2011, 11:20:25 PM
Aw, they're trying to make it difficult for the people who work on the NYSE to get to their jobs so they'll have to rely on their taxpayer-bailout-funded multi-million dollar bonuses to feed their families.  You should send those poor people some tampons.

So, if the two or three of you are such astute thinkers with all of the answers, why is the town you live in so fucked up?  Rather than waste your time criticizing others who are trying to make a change, why not get off of your asses and clean up your own back yard?

I doubt everyone who works at the NYSE makes millions of dollars, if they do I will go mop floors for my millions. You asked a question and when you didn't like the answer you reverted to little boy name calling.

If you are so worried about our town why don't you do something besides tucking tail and running away?

Corporate profits are the highest they have been in 5 decades while income for the average working stiff is at the lowest it has been since 1929!  There is something VERY wrong with this picture, and what amazes me is the only ones I see "getting it" are the OWS protestors and their backers!

The only time any of their opposition is going to "get it" is when this picture finally buries their respective asses; and THEN they're going to cry like a woman with their tit caught in a wringer! Only then it will be too late.

If those "tax breaks" for the "job creators" (read rich and wealthy) are such a good idea, then wtf haven't they pulled this country out of this mess? Where are the jobs? They've had TEN years of them, a decade, and still nothing except the facade that taxing them will stifle job creation. WHAT job creation?

The OWS protestors are spot on with their cause. Eventually those of you pissing on them will become the next victims of the very things they are protesting!

Quote from: Palehorse on November 28, 2011, 08:20:36 PM
Corporate profits are the highest they have been in 5 decades while income for the average working stiff is at the lowest it has been since 1929!  There is something VERY wrong with this picture, and what amazes me is the only ones I see "getting it" are the OWS protestors and their backers!

The only time any of their opposition is going to "get it" is when this picture finally buries their respective asses; and THEN they're going to cry like a woman with their tit caught in a wringer! Only then it will be too late.

If those "tax breaks" for the "job creators" (read rich and wealthy) are such a good idea, then wtf haven't they pulled this country out of this mess? Where are the jobs? They've had TEN years of them, a decade, and still nothing except the facade that taxing them will stifle job creation. WHAT job creation?

The OWS protestors are spot on with their cause. Eventually those of you pissing on them will become the next victims of the very things they are protesting!

You think this is a good thing?

QuoteWhat binds a large majority of the protesters together—regardless of age, socioeconomic status or education—is a deep commitment to left-wing policies: opposition to free-market capitalism and support for radical redistribution of wealth, intense regulation of the private sector, and protectionist policies to keep American jobs from going overseas.

Sixty-five percent say that government has a moral responsibility to guarantee all citizens access to affordable health care, a college education, and a secure retirement—no matter the cost. By a large margin (77%-22%), they support raising taxes on the wealthiest Americans, but 58% oppose raising taxes for everybody, with only 36% in favor. And by a close margin, protesters are divided on whether the bank bailouts were necessary (49%) or unnecessary (51%).

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204479504576637082965745362.html

Quote from: me on November 28, 2011, 04:46:04 PM
Who is paying the way for the ones that are continually protesting and staying in those tents or where ever they are holing up now?

I read last week that they have received well over a half-million dollars in donations.

Quote from: Anne on November 28, 2011, 07:45:46 PM
If you are so worried about our town why don't you do something besides tucking tail and running away?

Not my trash heap to clean up.

Quote from: Exterminator on November 29, 2011, 09:53:16 AM
Not my trash heap to clean up.

Typical left leaner......blame it on everyone else, expect everyone else to clean up after them, and don't help fix it.  Gooooood sheeple.........gooooood sheeple

Quote from: me on November 29, 2011, 02:19:31 PM
Typical left leaner......blame it on everyone else, expect everyone else to clean up after them, and don't help fix it.  Gooooood sheeple.........gooooood sheeple

Speak old toothless one, fart, fart, fart, fart, fart, fart, fart, fart.  Rooty a toot, toot. 

Quote from: me on November 29, 2011, 02:19:31 PM
Typical left leaner......blame it on everyone else, expect everyone else to clean up after them, and don't help fix it.  Gooooood sheeple.........gooooood sheeple

Really?  I wasn't born in Anderson, didn't grow up in Anderson, never held a job in Anderson and have no connection to Anderson with the exception of my once having contributed to your tax base by living there for a few years.  How in the fuck would telling you hillbillies to clean up your home town fall into the category of my expecting you to clean up my mess?  Yes, I blame the state of your town on you because, get this, you are why it is the way it is.  A shocking revelation, I know.   :rolleyes:

Quote from: Exterminator on November 30, 2011, 09:00:45 AM
Really?  I wasn't born in Anderson, didn't grow up in Anderson, never held a job in Anderson and have no connection to Anderson with the exception of my once having contributed to your tax base by living there for a few years.  How in the fuck would telling you hillbillies to clean up your home town fall into the category of my expecting you to clean up my mess?  Yes, I blame the state of your town on you because, get this, you are why it is the way it is.  A shocking revelation, I know.   :rolleyes:

Well guess what punky I wasn't born or raised here either. 

Quote from: me on November 30, 2011, 11:53:35 AM
Well guess what punky I wasn't born or raised here either.

And how long have you been there now?

Quote from: Exterminator on November 30, 2011, 02:44:24 PM
And how long have you been there now?

The point is I chose to stay and not turn tail and run like you.  How long I have been here is neither here nor there.

Quote from: me on November 30, 2011, 02:58:57 PM
The point is I chose to stay and not turn tail and run like you.  How long I have been here is neither here nor there.

You chose to stay there because you belong there.  And, yes, how long you've been there is relative to whether or not that mess is yours.

Quote from: me on November 30, 2011, 02:58:57 PM
The point is I chose to stay and not turn tail and run like you.  How long I have been here is neither here nor there.

  The way I see, if you don't have them, you fold them and leave.  That's what winners do.   :biggrin:

Quote from: The Troll on November 30, 2011, 03:23:39 PM
  The way I see, if you don't have them, you fold them and leave.  That's what winners do.   :biggrin:

That is what chicken shits do.

Quote from: me on November 30, 2011, 04:25:37 PM
That is what chicken shits do.

  Fart, fart, fart, fart, loser.   :rolleyes: :razz:

Quote from: me on November 30, 2011, 04:25:37 PM
That is what chicken shits do.

Ever heard the phrase, "ride your winners and sell your losers"?

Occupy L.A.: 30 tons of debris left behind at City Hall tent city
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/11/occupy-la-30-tons-of-debris-left-behind-at-city-hall-tent-city.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/11/occupy-la-30-tons-of-debris-left-behind-at-city-hall-tent-city.html)

Quote from: Exterminator on December 01, 2011, 07:52:46 AM
Ever heard the phrase, "ride your winners and sell your losers"?

Difference is we aren't talking about a card game here and it still makes you a chicken shit. You could have stayed and helped the economy like you're expecting others to do.

Quote from: me on December 01, 2011, 09:41:43 AM
Difference is we aren't talking about a card game here and it still makes you a chicken shit. You could have stayed and helped the economy like you're expecting others to do.

No, we're talking about something a lot more important than a card game, things like quality of life and the futility of continuing to pay for and maintain and improve a piece of property that doesn't appreciate in value.  Persevering in a no-win situation isn't a sign of bravery; it's a sign of stupidity.

Quote from: Exterminator on December 01, 2011, 11:07:07 AM
No, we're talking about something a lot more important than a card game, things like quality of life and the futility of continuing to pay for and maintain and improve a piece of property that doesn't appreciate in value.  Persevering in a no-win situation isn't a sign of bravery; it's a sign of stupidity.

  Yes Sir, that's what we're talking about.  You do know what is worse than living in Anderson.  Owning a home in Anderson.   :yes:  I had someone living in Anderson tell me that one.   :biggrin:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 01, 2011, 08:36:21 AM
Occupy L.A.: 30 tons of debris left behind at City Hall tent city
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/11/occupy-la-30-tons-of-debris-left-behind-at-city-hall-tent-city.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/11/occupy-la-30-tons-of-debris-left-behind-at-city-hall-tent-city.html)

  30 tons? :azz:  I don't believe it.  Just think Henery it didn't cost you a dime.  You always worrying about something you don't have a thing in.  Just a nib nose.  :biggrin:

  Oh, yes Henery, with the money you didn't have to spend on the trash pickup.  You need to send some of your money to O0 Herman Cain.  He says that his donations have dried up.  Give your good buddy some money and I want him to run for president.   :wink: :biggrin:

Quote from: The Troll on December 01, 2011, 01:04:39 PM
30 tons?  I don't believe it.

I do and here is a perfect example of Henry being led around by the ring in his nose rather than actually thinking for himself.  30 tons...sounds like a shitload of trash; huh?  The people writing this crap intentionally do so in a way that makes it sound more sensational than it is.  The typical garbage truck you see driving through your neighborhood holds 12 to 14 tons of trash so 30 tons is conservatively 2 1/2 trucks full...not really that much now is it?

Quote from: Exterminator on December 01, 2011, 04:34:41 PM
I do and here is a perfect example of Henry being led around by the ring in his nose rather than actually thinking for himself.  30 tons...sounds like a shitload of trash; huh?  The people writing this crap intentionally do so in a way that makes it sound more sensational than it is.  The typical garbage truck you see driving through your neighborhood holds 12 to 14 tons of trash so 30 tons is conservatively 2 1/2 trucks full...not really that much now is it?

it is a whole lot when it is just left behind for others to clean.....THAT is my point it took 2 1/2 trucks to clean up after these folks trashed the area....THAT is a lot of trash, no manner whole you slice it.

Nobody had to make me realize that either....most of those folks, where there to party....and the crap they left behind proves it.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 01, 2011, 04:47:00 PM
it is a whole lot when it is just left behind for others to clean.....THAT is my point it took 2 1/2 trucks to clean up after these folks trashed the area....THAT is a lot of trash, no manner whole you slice it.

Nobody had to make me realize that either....most of those folks, where there to party....and the crap they left behind proves it.

The police raided the area and kicked them out.  Do you imagine they had time to clean up in the midst of being ousted by the cops?

Quote from: Locutus on December 01, 2011, 05:38:40 PM
The police raided the area and kicked them out.  Do you imagine they had time to clean up in the midst of being ousted by the cops?

I'm betting if they had tried to take the time to do so they'd have been pepper sprayed!

for most of those folks, it was nothing more than a party......not all, but most....and they could give a rats ass if they was tidy or not....

Quote from: Palehorse on December 01, 2011, 08:13:23 PM
I'm betting if they had tried to take the time to do so they'd have been pepper sprayed!

Do you think they would have cleaned up after themselves if they had been asked/told to do it?

Quote from: Locutus on December 01, 2011, 05:38:40 PM
The police raided the area and kicked them out.  Do you imagine they had time to clean up in the midst of being ousted by the cops?

If they had been keeping it clean in the first place it wouldn't have been an issue.

Fuck all of you...the amount of trash that each of you produces annually far surpasses any few garbage trucks necessary to clean up this park.  Go fuck yourselves...each of you produces far more trash than these few people possibly could...losers.

As I read these replies, it becomes ever more obvious that the sooner these old, wrinkled, out-dated fucks die, the better the world will be without them.

Gee what a guy.  I guess it is asking a bit much that people clean up after themselves and not let things pile up for others to have to take care of.   :rolleyes:

typical lib... :yes:

Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 02, 2011, 07:52:57 AM
typical lib... :yes:

Do you take your own trash to the dump or do you set it out in the street and wait for someone else to pick it up?

Which we pay for, how much do you take to the drump? They didn't leave it bagged for the garbage truck, they left it all over the ground.

Quote from: Anne on December 02, 2011, 10:23:54 AM
Which we pay for, how much do you take to the drump? They didn't leave it bagged for the garbage truck, they left it all over the ground.

How do you know this; were you there picking it up?  Perhaps the city should have placed refuse containers out once it was clear there would be a large population of people there?

And people from Anderson have no business talking about how trashy someone else is.  I actually saw a teenage girl throw an entire McDonald's bag out of her window in there once like it was perfectly ok and she wasn't an exception...I was constantly picking up trash that people had thrown out of their windows into my yard when I lived there.  Never had that problem living in Broadripple and I don't have it now in Zionsville either.  Seriously, who does that and what do you people teach your kids? 

Quote from: Exterminator on December 01, 2011, 11:47:33 PM
As I read these replies, it becomes ever more obvious that the sooner these old, wrinkled, out-dated fucks die, the better the world will be without them.

Problem is, a lot of them are teaching their kids to think in the same manner they themselves do. 

Quote from: Exterminator on December 02, 2011, 10:48:18 AM
How do you know this; were you there picking it up?  Perhaps the city should have placed refuse containers out once it was clear there would be a large population of people there?

And people from Anderson have no business talking about how trashy someone else is.  I actually saw a teenage girl throw an entire McDonald's bag out of her window in there once like it was perfectly ok and she wasn't an exception...I was constantly picking up trash that people had thrown out of their windows into my yard when I lived there.  Never had that problem living in Broadripple and I don't have it now in Zionsville either.  Seriously, who does that and what do you people teach your kids?

You are a lying sack of shit Ex.  I have been to Broadripple and Zionsville and it's no different there than anywhere else.  One difference would be that they might be snobby and arrogant like you though. The crime rate in Broadripple is unreal too and I don't mean low.

Quote from: me on December 02, 2011, 12:23:01 PM
You are a lying sack of shit Ex.  I have been to Broadripple and Zionsville and it's no different there than anywhere else.  One difference would be that they might be snobby and arrogant like you though. The crime rate in Broadripple is unreal too and I don't mean low.

Bullshit.  I've never seen anyone in either of those places blatantly just throw a bag of trash out of his/her car window and I am not constantly picking the shit up out of my yard like I had to in Andertucky.  If Broadripple and Zionsville aer so bad, why are they so desirable from a real estate perspective?  Madison County sure isn't.

And for the record, it's difficult to pick up your trash when you're being forcibly evicted.

Quote from: me on December 02, 2011, 12:23:01 PM
You are a lying sack of shit Ex.  I have been to Broadripple and Zionsville and it's no different there than anywhere else.  One difference would be that they might be snobby and arrogant like you though. The crime rate in Broadripple is unreal too and I don't mean low.

  She said, 'You are a lying sack of shit, Ex  Wow!  Ex you sure have hit all of her buttons and all of her switches.   :biggrin:  Keep up the good work.  :thumbsup:

Quote from: Exterminator on December 02, 2011, 01:11:54 PM
And for the record, it's difficult to pick up your trash when you're being forcibly evicted.

If they had been keeping it picked up to begin with it would not have been an issue. Why can't you get that through your thick head?

Quote from: The Troll on December 02, 2011, 01:12:29 PM
  She said, 'You are a lying sack of shit, Ex  Wow!  Ex you sure have hit all of her buttons and all of her switches.   :biggrin:  Keep up the good work.  :thumbsup:

Just gettin' sick of his holier than thou attitude.  I can definitely understand why he's single.

Quote from: Exterminator on December 02, 2011, 01:11:54 PM
And for the record, it's difficult to pick up your trash when you're being forcibly evicted.

they were asked to leave 24 hours before this happened.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 02, 2011, 03:46:52 PM
  Henery said, they were asked to leave 24 hours before. :rant:

  What I don't understand what you meat heads have in this OWS protest, "ME", Hawk and Anne.  It's no skin off your ass and no money out of you wallet.  :gha:

  You're just like three crows sitting on a fence jawing a cat that walks by.  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  bitch, bitch, bitch.  What you people want is a police state where the cops rule with an iron fist full of pepper spray, gas, clubs and guns.  :trustme: :yes: :yes: :laugh:

Quote from: The Troll on December 02, 2011, 04:27:21 PM

Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 02, 2011, 03:46:52 PM
  Henery said, they were asked to leave 24 hours before. :rant:

  What I don't understand what you meat heads have in this OWS protest, "ME", Hawk and Anne.  It's no skin off your ass and no money out of you wallet.  :gha:

  You're just like three crows sitting on a fence jawing a cat that walks by.  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  bitch, bitch, bitch.  What you people want is a police state where the cops rule with an iron fist full of pepper spray, gas, clubs and guns.  :trustme: :yes: :yes: :laugh:

You guys bitched a storm when there was a two hour Tea Party.

Personally, I can careless, as long as they are not breaking the law, which many OWS did.  They WANTED the pepper spray and tear gas...they WANTED the attention....THEY GOT IT.

All they had to do was let the cops through but they chose to sit there with their shirts pulled over their heads and dared the cops to do it.  They got what they asked for. Answer me this.  If your child disobeys and you tell them if they don't do as you say they are going to be punished and they continue to disobey do you just give them their way or do you give them whatever punishment they were told was coming? 

Quote from: me on December 02, 2011, 05:05:17 PM
All they had to do was let the cops through but they chose to sit there with their shirts pulled over their heads and dared the cops to do it.  They got what they asked for. Answer me this.  If your child disobeys and you tell them if they don't do as you say they are going to be punished and they continue to disobey do you just give them their way or do you give them whatever punishment they were told was coming?

  Being a Republican Teabagger, you won't believe this.  But I have never clubbed, teargassed, pepper sprayed, threw him to the ground on his face and put my knee in the back of his neck, hand cuffed, gave him a skull fracture with a teargas canister at anytime to  my boy.  Never thought about it.  But you again seem to condone such treatment.  I am sure glad the ilk like you, white trash don't control America.  You would have done good at the concentration camps in Nazi Germany.

  I can just see you standing in you Nazi uniform with a black whip, by the incinerator saying burn the god damn Jews.   :rant:

Quote from: me on December 02, 2011, 03:21:29 PM
Just gettin' sick of his holier than thou attitude.  I can definitely understand why he's single.

Well, I'm not married...yet...but have been living with my girlfriend for a couple of years so I'm not exactly single, either.  She's a beautiful and amazing woman...well educated...former IBM executive...currently semi-retired so she can help care for her mother, a retired teacher, whose eyesight is failing since her husband, the stepfather, a WWII paratrooper who was also a teacher and school principle died last year.  Her paternal father was shot down over Laos early in the Vietnam conflict when she was a baby; his name in in the 28th line of the first panel of the Vietnam Memorial in Washington D.C.  He was MIA for over 30 years.  Her mother's parents were simple people who grew up in small town Indiana near Peru.  Grandma was also a teacher and grandpa owned the local barber shop.  They were frugal and saved and invested their money...in companies like Standard Oil and the like and amassed a fortune...and died in the same house they bought shortly after they were married.  Both her parents and grandparents understood the concept of division of wealth, that is, whatever you accumulate in your life gets divided amongst your heirs, and chose to only have one child so that that one child could live better than they did...sort of the antithesis of you breeders cranking out kids with no real thought about their future or even how you might put them through school.  How many of your kids or grandkids will be rich because you spent your life focusing on nothing but the betterment of those you brought into the world?  None.

Even my grandmother, also a teacher, spaced my mother and my uncle's births four years apart so she wasn't trying to put two kids through college at the same time.  Never occured to you to do so, did it, because insuring that your children had a better life than you wasn't as important to you as cranking out kids...loser.

If you'll excuse me...my arrogant ass needs to be in the garage to finish changing the oil in my truck.

Yes, my children are wealthier than I am, partly because we made sure we put them through college and partly because they made good choices in their career paths.  Most of our friends did that too, even the ones that had more than one child. Don't talk to me about insuring the future of my children and grandchildren.

As far as the OWS people, you only had to look at one of many images of the areas they were in to see the trash. If most had jobs as you say they seemed to like living in trash.

Quote from: Exterminator on December 02, 2011, 08:04:06 PM
Well, I'm not married...yet...but have been living with my girlfriend for a couple of years so I'm not exactly single, either.  She's a beautiful and amazing woman...well educated...former IBM executive...currently semi-retired so she can help care for her mother, a retired teacher, whose eyesight is failing since her husband, the stepfather, a WWII paratrooper who was also a teacher and school principle died last year.  Her paternal father was shot down over Laos early in the Vietnam conflict when she was a baby; his name in in the 28th line of the first panel of the Vietnam Memorial in Washington D.C.  He was MIA for over 30 years.  Her mother's parents were simple people who grew up in small town Indiana near Peru.  Grandma was also a teacher and grandpa owned the local barber shop.  They were frugal and saved and invested their money...in companies like Standard Oil and the like and amassed a fortune...and died in the same house they bought shortly after they were married.  Both her parents and grandparents understood the concept of division of wealth, that is, whatever you accumulate in your life gets divided amongst your heirs, and chose to only have one child so that that one child could live better than they did...sort of the antithesis of you breeders cranking out kids with no real thought about their future or even how you might put them through school.  How many of your kids or grandkids will be rich because you spent your life focusing on nothing but the betterment of those you brought into the world?  None.

Even my grandmother, also a teacher, spaced my mother and my uncle's births four years apart so she wasn't trying to put two kids through college at the same time.  Never occured occurred(fixed it for you)  to you to do so, did it, because insuring that your children had a better life than you wasn't as important to you as cranking out kids...loser.

If you'll excuse me...my arrogant ass needs to be in the garage to finish changing the oil in my truck.

Two of my 3 daughters graduated with honors and one just barely missed being in the honor society and are all doing quite well. One was in both choir and drama club and one was in just drama club, and the other was in band and drama club.  They do not expect me to make them rich by leaving them "things" and money they are earning their own way.  I do not expect anything from my mom either and would rather she enjoy what she has herself, she worked for it and earned it I didn't, and my sister feels the same. 

Putting me and my family down has nothing to do with the trash left by the OWS it is just a way to deflect from the subject at hand.

Quote from: Anne on December 02, 2011, 09:14:17 PM
Yes, my children are wealthier than I am, partly because we made sure we put them through college and partly because they made good choices in their career paths.  Most of our friends did that too, even the ones that had more than one child. Don't talk to me about insuring the future of my children and grandchildren.

As far as the OWS people, you only had to look at one of many images of the areas they were in to see the trash. If most had jobs as you say they seemed to like living in trash.

I actually believe that your children are, Anne.  My perception of you based on your posts here is completely different from my perceptions of Henry and "me".  I think that you are a reasonable person but one with little knowledge of how the business world works today.  As such, I think your comments are generally out of your depth. 

Quote from: me on December 02, 2011, 09:36:42 PM
Two of my 3 daughters graduated with honors and one just barely missed being in the honor society and are all doing quite well. One was in both choir and drama club and one was in just drama club, and the other was in band and drama club.  They do not expect me to make them rich by leaving them "things" and money they are earning their own way.  I do not expect anything from my mom either and would rather she enjoy what she has herself, she worked for it and earned it I didn't, and my sister feels the same. 

Putting me and my family down has nothing to do with the trash left by the OWS it is just a way to deflect from the subject at hand.

You've been proven many times here to be an abject liar but assuming what you say is true, how do your grandchildren feel about our government working in the best interests of corporations instead of the citizens they took an oath to serve?

Quote from: Exterminator on December 02, 2011, 09:59:24 PM
You've been proven many times here to be an abject liar but assuming what you say is true, how do your grandchildren feel about our government working in the best interests of corporations instead of the citizens they took an oath to serve?

They don't like this administration either.  And on the liar part, having a different opinion does not make one a liar. 

Quote from: Exterminator on December 02, 2011, 09:53:12 PM
I actually believe that your children are, Anne.  My perception of you based on your posts here is completely different from my perceptions of Henry and "me".  I think that you are a reasonable person but one with little knowledge of how the business world works today.  As such, I think your comments are generally out of your depth.

I ran my own very small business for awhile, which isn't to say I could run a large one. However, I have worked with people in many different situations for most of my life and think I have a better than average grasp of what they face if they are homosexual, addicted, sick, mentally challenged or poor. I don't have all the answers. Some people can't be helped or don't want to be helped. Some people only want to be given everything. Some people just need a chance. You are younger than me and perhaps don't realize how much better it is for some people than it was 40 or 50 yers ago. There is still a lot to be done, but the progress that has been made should not be ignored. For the record, I still think the OWS people are in the wrong place. I think they should be at their government centers protesting instead of business, since it is the government that lets the business operate the way they do. I don't think they should interfere with other people either, blocking streets and sidewalks, etc.

Quote from: Anne on December 03, 2011, 11:32:51 AM
I ran my own very small business for awhile, which isn't to say I could run a large one. However, I have worked with people in many different situations for most of my life and think I have a better than average grasp of what they face if they are homosexual, addicted, sick, mentally challenged or poor. I don't have all the answers. Some people can't be helped or don't want to be helped. Some people only want to be given everything. Some people just need a chance. You are younger than me and perhaps don't realize how much better it is for some people than it was 40 or 50 yers ago. There is still a lot to be done, but the progress that has been made should not be ignored. For the record, I still think the OWS people are in the wrong place. I think they should be at their government centers protesting instead of business, since it is the government that lets the business operate the way they do. I don't think they should interfere with other people either, blocking streets and sidewalks, etc.

  What in hell do you have you panties bunched up are you neck and cutting off your blood supply to your brain.  Leave the OWS people alone.  Why don't you mind your own business.   :rant:

  That small business you had was probably a money making hobby, really didn't have to do it.  If your old man hadn't work for General Motors, I know you wouldn't have been able to send you kid to college and your times would have been a whole lot harder.  I hope you say thank god for General Motors and the UAW.   :yes:

  I think OWS is in the right place, not one of those cheating bastard went to jail.  You should blame old George W. for the stock market and the bank mess.  He and his and your party deregulated them and we have reaped the damn mess.  The :@#%&: Bastards. 

Well gee, the wonderful OWS people lobbed some smoke bombs at the White House yesterday.  Wonder if Pelosi and Obama still think they're wonderful.....  :biggrin:

Quote from: me on January 18, 2012, 11:25:40 AM
Well gee, the wonderful OWS people lobbed some smoke bombs at the White House yesterday.  Wonder if Pelosi and Obama still think they're wonderful.....  :biggrin:

   Can you prove it, the police didn't arrest anyone.  You sure are full of poison and hate.  May god love you, but I don't.  :finger2:

Quote from: The Troll on January 18, 2012, 12:17:39 PM
   Can you prove it, the police didn't arrest anyone.  You sure are full of poison and hate.  May god love you, but I don't.  :finger2:

White House locked down after smoke bomb thrown by protester

 

By Jay Korff
January 17, 2012 - 10:15 pm
Updated: January 18, 2012 - 01:01 pm



The Secret Service is looking for the person or persons who threw a smoke bomb at the White House during last night's "Occupy Wall Street" protests.


   

    'Occupy Congress' protesters converge on Capitol Hill

Hundreds of people marched to the White House, the Capitol and the Supreme Court Tuesday to protest corporate influence in politics.

POLITICO reported that the White House was temporarily put on lock-down Tuesday evening after a smoke bomb was thrown over the fence, according to an agent.

Occupy Congress protesters had been congregating outside the White House during the march.

The smoke bomb was thrown near the North Portico. Fire trucks and HazMat crews could be seen along Pennsylvania Avenue, which was closed down to pedestrians.

The North Side of the White House remained closed as of 11 p.m. as Secret Service and police conducted further investigations. People were allowed to leave from the South Side.

President Barack Obama was not at the White House during the incident.

Secret Service worked with MPD and Park Police to clear the scene.

No one was arrested in connection with the incident.





http://www.wjla.com/articles/2012/01/white-house-on-lockdown-after-smoke-bomb-thrown-by-protestor-71537.html


Just because there were no arrests doesn't mean it didn't happen it just means they haven't found the person responsible yet.

  It sure did happen, the person who threw it was probably was a Tea Bagger or an member of the Republican dirty tricks team.

  Trying to make the Occupy Wall Street demonstrators look bad.  I got to say you keep trying to make everybody look bad but the Republicans.


                                                   :zoners:

You just keep right on believing that Troll.  Yer such a good little sheeple.   

Quote from: me on January 19, 2012, 01:44:11 AM
You just keep right on believing that Troll.  Yer such a good little sheeple.   

  I rather be a good Democrat sheeple that a Republican Judus goat.  :kiss:   :zoners:        :haha:      :haha:       :haha:

 :flames:

Quote from: me on January 19, 2012, 01:50:34 PM

:bsflag:

  That's right, that is the only flag you got.  You don't know what fairness and honor is.         :zoners: