Should the US Continue Off Shore Drilling Despite The Spill?

[Anne]

You are so "for" drill baby, drill, why don't you move down to the Gulf Shores and lap up some of that black gold yourself? 

I think the government (read President Obama and his cap and trade group) over reacted and misrepresented a report they presented. Current restrictions led to the deep water drilling. They don't want to drill anyplace and are using this "accident" if it was one to push their agenda. As long as you want someone to move, why don't you go down and help clean it up in your electric car and live in your wind powered house. You can sell all your carbon credits to Mr. Gore.

[Palehorse]

I think the government (read President Obama and his cap and trade group) over reacted and misrepresented a report they presented. Current restrictions led to the deep water drilling. They don't want to drill anyplace and are using this "accident" if it was one to push their agenda. As long as you want someone to move, why don't you go down and help clean it up in your electric car and live in your wind powered house. You can sell all your carbon credits to Mr. Gore.

Puh-lease! 

Go try and pass that emotional BS on the thousands of shrimpers, fishermen, resort owners, business owners, and their families, that have had their livelihoods taken away from them. I suppose you are a seafood hater so it has no impact upon you and your tiny little world.

And for your edification, it is the LACK of restrictions, oversight, and enforcement that germinated over the course of the last 3 decades that truly "led" to this incident and the one in 1979 as well.  And as far as deep water drilling goes, no one told them they had to go out there, that was a business decision they made all on their own in the pursuit of less than 2% of the worlds oil reserves, and the revenues they've been raping the world to achieve.

Under what administration did BP ET AL obtain the lease to drill in that location? Under what administration did they submit their remediation plan for a potential spill scenario? The current administration did not misrepresent anything, nor did they over-react. (Which brings another point into play; Which is it? Did the administration under react or over react? Guess that depends on what you want it to mean huh?)

Anyone who has a scintilla of sanity knows darned good and well that those things BP / Trans Ocean / Halliburton did or failed to do are pretty much wide spread and unspoken standards across the industry when conducting operations within the United States and its possessions; or have been up to this point.

Moreover, the approach the POTUS and his administration have taken toward implementing a moratorium on all deep water offshore drilling, until a proper root cause analysis, failure analysis, remediation course of action, and corrective action/preventative action and engineered solutions are identified and implemented, is the only acceptable course of action that ensures the ongoing safety of all workers in the industry and secures the sanctity and health of our environment. Anything less than that is patronization of the families who lost their loved ones and of the industry.

I'm not the one spewing the "drill baby, drill" propaganda. You are. So you move your ass down there and lap it up.

[Anne]

Sorry. love some seafood, where did that come from?
What emotional bs as you put it.
Ok, you tell me where they are allowed to drill besides in water, deep or otherwise? Where have drilling permit been given in the several years? Not in Alaska, not out west, only in water.
Like it or not, they misrepresented a report given to them and got caught. They did not follow the recommendations, just went off on a tangent and over reacted, putting hundreds of additional people out of work. They could have ordered inspections, etc. instead of a knee jerk reaction.
I'll keep my ass right where I am thank you very much.

[Palehorse]

Sorry. love some seafood, where did that come from?

So obviously you don't care that this black death is killing off billions and billions of marine life, sea life, and mammals!

What emotional bs as you put it.
Ok, you tell me where they are allowed to drill besides in water, deep or otherwise? Where have drilling permit been given in the several years? Not in Alaska, not out west, only in water.
Like it or not, they misrepresented a report given to them and got caught. They did not follow the recommendations, just went off on a tangent and over reacted, putting hundreds of additional people out of work. They could have ordered inspections, etc. instead of a knee jerk reaction.

There are presently 1,426 ON shore rotary drilling rigs in operation within the US as of April 2010 - of the 1,816 total active rigs. Of these 508 currently target crude oil only, with the balance drilling for oil and gas.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=E_ERTRR0_XR0_RUSON_C&f=M

Alaskan oil fields accounted for 20,030 (thousand of barrels) in the month of April this year, with the entire lower 48 producing 288,060 (thousands of barrels) during the same month.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_sum_crdsnd_k_m.htm

The US owns less than 2% of the proven oil reserves in the entire world, and accelerating the removal of that oil from the earth will do nothing except move the date we are screwed forward in time, leaving our children and their children to deal with the fact we (in general) are too greedy and ignorant to have considered alternative energy sources and implemented them before we depleted our oil reserves.  If production averages continue to increase as they are currently averaging, US oil reserves will be depleted ( according to some estimates from within the industry itself) within the next 8 to 12 years. Then what?

And fyi, they have ordered inspections and made substantial changes to the governing departments. . .

I'll keep my ass right where I am thank you very much.

That's what I thought! 

[The Troll]

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They did not follow the recommendations, just went off on a tangent and over reacted, putting hundreds of additional people out of work. They could have ordered inspections, etc. instead of a knee jerk reaction.

I'll keep my ass right where I am thank you very much.

  Where was your ass when they were sending our jobs over seas, to China and where there was slave labor.  Shopping at Wal-Mart.

[Anne]

Worrying my husband would not have a job, where were you?

[The Troll]

Worrying my husband would not have a job, where were you?

  Writting my Senators and Congressman which I knew wouldn't work, Lugar and Pence.

  Watching all of the Republican Predatory Capitalist, free trader and corporations sending them over seas.

[Anne]

Haven't seen any move by the democrats making any changes. Are you writing to them?

[Anne]

So obviously you don't care that this black death is killing off billions and billions of marine life, sea life, and mammals!

There are presently 1,426 ON shore rotary drilling rigs in operation within the US as of April 2010 - of the 1,816 total active rigs. Of these 508 currently target crude oil only, with the balance drilling for oil and gas.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=E_ERTRR0_XR0_RUSON_C&f=M

Alaskan oil fields accounted for 20,030 (thousand of barrels) in the month of April this year, with the entire lower 48 producing 288,060 (thousands of barrels) during the same month.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/pet_sum_crdsnd_k_m.htm

The US owns less than 2% of the proven oil reserves in the entire world, and accelerating the removal of that oil from the earth will do nothing except move the date we are screwed forward in time, leaving our children and their children to deal with the fact we (in general) are too greedy and ignorant to have considered alternative energy sources and implemented them before we depleted our oil reserves.  If production averages continue to increase as they are currently averaging, US oil reserves will be depleted ( according to some estimates from within the industry itself) within the next 8 to 12 years. Then what?

And fyi, they have ordered inspections and made substantial changes to the governing departments. . .


That's what I thought! 

How many of these are new or recent permits?
They could have done the inspections without closing everything down. They are just using this to further their agenda. They misrepresented a report by experts because they didn't like their conclusion.

[The Troll]

How many of these are new or recent permits?
They could have done the inspections without closing everything down. They are just using this to further their agenda. They misrepresented a report by experts because they didn't like their conclusion.

  Damn "Anne"  your going to have to watch something else than Fox News.  You need to  be brought up to date.

  When Obama order the stop of deep water drilling, it was for just six (6) months and it was for wells drill in water over 200 ft.  That was less than 1-tenth of all of the wells being drilled.

  Well, one of Reagan appointment judges, over ruled him and was going to turn the oil companies loose.  Well, so sad to bad, Obama stopped all water drilling and filed a suit against that ruling.  I might add the judge had a lot (17) energy stocks, oil stocks.

  It so amazing how you Republicans can come to the defense of these corporations that by cutting corners to save money can do so much damage.  Do you like seeing the Gulf of Mexico damaged so badly.  There must be some kind of a malfuction of the brain cells of Republicans.

[Anne]

You have no idea what I watch or read so quit trying to to characertize me. You need to watch something besides President Obama's Chicago criminal cronies.

[The Troll]

You have no idea what I watch or read so quit trying to to characertize me. You need to watch something besides President Obama's Chicago criminal cronies.

  Jesus Christ are you bring all of that unproven bullshit up again.  Well, I know what you don't watch or read.  Your watching and reading bullshit some where.  You're not getting the facts.  That a proven fact every time you open you mouth. 

  Would you please tell who the criminal cronies I am watching.  Certainly no one from Chicago.

   Drinking and watchng Glen Beck is a sure way to ruin you brain.  It sound like it's both with you.  Go on beat the dead horse of criminal cronies and look like a dumbass. 

  I don't have to characertize you, you characertize yourself in your post.


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[Bo D]

They could have ordered inspections, etc. instead of a knee jerk reaction.
I'll keep my ass right where I am thank you very much.

And what happens when they discover a flaw in the backup safety systems on a 747? Or cracks in a wing?

They shut down the whole damn fleet until they determine the cause and fix it!

That'll keep your ass where it is for a while.

[Palehorse]

And what happens when they discover a flaw in the backup safety systems on a 747? Or cracks in a wing?

They shut down the whole damn fleet until they determine the cause and fix it!

That'll keep your ass where it is for a while.

Just like they have today on the two AA 767 engine pylons! 

[Anne]

And what happens when they discover a flaw in the backup safety systems on a 747? Or cracks in a wing?

They shut down the whole damn fleet until they determine the cause and fix it!

That'll keep your ass where it is for a while.

The oil rigs are not airplanes, apples to oranges.