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Should the US Continue Off Shore Drilling Despite The Spill?

Started by Palehorse, May 04, 2010, 01:38:32 PM

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Quote from: Palehorse on June 11, 2010, 02:38:18 PM
If it's "seepage" it is far worse than what is "normal" since the plume(s) are similar in size and quantity to the Horizon's.

Another point, just what would these ships do surrounding the plumes? (They are underwater)

Henry: I'd piss my pants before stopping at a BP to piss! They are getting ZERO of my business and will not until this is fixed.
That's a two edged sword though PH.  It isn't the fault of the employee's or the business owner and it would be putting people out of work who are trying to make ends meet.  You are hurting the average citizen far more than you could ever hurt BP.
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Palehorse

Quote from: me on June 11, 2010, 02:41:09 PM
That's a two edged sword though PH.  It isn't the fault of the employee's or the business owner and it would be putting people out of work who are trying to make ends meet.  You are hurting the average citizen far more than you could ever hurt BP.

I will not adjust my principles to help those who would not do so if the situation were reversed, and certainly BP is very high on that list right now. (Where was that thought process when the factories were closing all around this country?)

Moreover, the same question could be asked of the tea party! 
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Quote from: me on June 11, 2010, 02:41:09 PM
That's a two edged sword though PH.  It isn't the fault of the employee's or the business owner and it would be putting people out of work who are trying to make ends meet.  You are hurting the average citizen far more than you could ever hurt BP.

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WTF!!!!  :rant:

http://www.swedishwire.com/politics/4377-sweden-helps-the-us-to-clean-up-oil-spill-

WASHINGTON (AFP) -Sweden is among those countries that have offered international assistance to the United States for the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

The United States said Thursday it had received offers of aid to clean up the Gulf of Mexico oil spill from Canada and Mexico, 10 European countries, South Korea and the United Nations.

Still, the US State Department said there was no immediate need for the assistance offered but that the US Coast Guard was trying to evaluate whether there would be in the future.

"These offers include experts in various aspects of oil spill impacts, research and technical expertise, booms, chemical oil dispersants, oil pumps, skimmers, and wildlife treatment," the State Department said in a statement.


Maybe the President needs to kick his OWN ASS!!... :rant:
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Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 11, 2010, 03:31:58 PM
WTF!!!!  :rant:

http://www.swedishwire.com/politics/4377-sweden-helps-the-us-to-clean-up-oil-spill-

WASHINGTON (AFP) -Sweden is among those countries that have offered international assistance to the United States for the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

The United States said Thursday it had received offers of aid to clean up the Gulf of Mexico oil spill from Canada and Mexico, 10 European countries, South Korea and the United Nations.

Still, the US State Department said there was no immediate need for the assistance offered but that the US Coast Guard was trying to evaluate whether there would be in the future.

"These offers include experts in various aspects of oil spill impacts, research and technical expertise, booms, chemical oil dispersants, oil pumps, skimmers, and wildlife treatment," the State Department said in a statement.


Maybe the President needs to kick his OWN ASS!!... :rant:

Again Hank, what are they going to do that is not already being done? Clean beaches? Really?! So screw the 21 million unemployed people in this nation and bring in foreigners? Hope they have a green card a valid visa and carry them with them at all times, lest they be arrested by Barney for being illegal!
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Quote from: Palehorse on June 11, 2010, 04:52:02 PM
Again Hank, what are they going to do that is not already being done? Clean beaches? Really?! So screw the 21 million unemployed people in this nation and bring in foreigners? Hope they have a green card a valid visa and carry them with them at all times, lest they be arrested by Barney for being illegal!
And how much work are they going to lose if this isn't cleaned up as quickly as possible?  Seems to me we should take them up on the help.
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Quote from: me on June 11, 2010, 05:00:04 PM
And how much work are they going to lose if this isn't cleaned up as quickly as possible?  Seems to me we should take them up on the help.

To do?????????????
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me

Quote from: Palehorse on June 11, 2010, 05:02:08 PM
To do?????????????
Anything that will help from pumping the oil to cleaning or keeping it from reaching the shore. 

On a side note they just said on the news they are figuring the oil coming out per day equals the EV spill every 8 days.  :spooked:

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This can't be cleaned up; the damage is already done.  Studies on the Exxon Valdez oil spill clean up illustrated that much of what was done while attempting to mitigate the damage was ultimately more harmful to the environment than if they had simply done nothing.  You can't steam or pressure wash oil out of an ecosystem without simultaneously killing millions of microorganisms crucial to its survival, microorganisms that will take decades to reestablish themselves.  The fact is that the gulf has been affected for at least the duration of most of our lives, if not permanently.  Spill, baby, spill!
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We destroy our planet because we hate ourselves. (Just threw that out there for comment. And, for those who are inclined to assign some ulterior motive to my posts:  Not designed to be an asscutter.)
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Quote from: followsthewolf on June 11, 2010, 09:28:34 PM
We destroy our planet because we hate ourselves. (Just threw that out there for comment. And, for those who are inclined to assign some ulterior motive to my posts:  Not designed to be an asscutter.)

I don't necessarily believe it is hatred, of ourselves or anyone else for that matter. I am more inclined to ascribe our stupidity to greed more than anything else. Our natural inclination to hoard as much of anything of value as possible and NOT to share.
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

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Quote from: Palehorse on June 11, 2010, 02:38:18 PM
If it's "seepage" it is far worse than what is "normal" since the plume(s) are similar in size and quantity to the Horizon's.

Another point, just what would these ships do surrounding the plumes? (They are underwater)

Henry: I'd piss my pants before stopping at a BP to piss! They are getting ZERO of my business and will not until this is fixed.

  It doesn't matter to Henry, he's an equal opportunity buyer.  The same type of item, one made in China and one made in the USA and the one made in China is a nickle cheaper, He'd buy the one made in China.  That the "market" at work.  Capitalism.