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Should the US Continue Off Shore Drilling Despite The Spill?

Started by Palehorse, May 04, 2010, 01:38:32 PM

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Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 21, 2010, 03:35:35 PM
it seems to me that our gov HAS to get involved in this.....we need to be doing EVERYTHING possible to stop this, and begin a REAL clean up....we should not expect BP to do this alone....and I am not saying that BP should NOT be responsible for ALL costs, because the should be....I am NOT defending that at all.

The government is involved Henry, and have been since week one of this FUBAR situation. The amount of government resources being utilized toward this exceeds that expended toward Katrina already. . .
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The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 21, 2010, 01:13:45 PM
BP employs more than 29,000 people in the US....and I think there are plenty of people out there who would work for them about right now.....

I never claimed I hardly have two nickles to rub together....

and I never said I want BP to "get away" with anything.....I want to wait and see how they handle this...give them a chance to TRY to make this right (not that they can EVER make it right)....the media and the left are making them out as 100% guilty and ready to execute them.....and I don't think ALL corporations are out to screw folks....unfortunatly there ARE some out there that do....but, that does not make all of them bad.....the one's I do NOT trustis BIG GOVERNMENT!!!!....THEY ARE OUT TO SCREW US!!!!....the left is always defending them.....so, there you go.

  Tell me Henry, just what has the government personally screwed you out of.  I would like to know.

  You say they had a perfect safety record.  Well, you know what they say about that.  You can have a billion ATTABOYS, but one OH SHIT cancells all of them.

  Ford my plant got perfect safety awards every year.  Every year I seen so many close calls, near accidents.  The small one's, Ford would bring the person in and they would set in a chair on a very easy job or up at the hospital so the wouldn't have a loss hour accident report.

  Even the government admitted that they didn't check BP very close and took their word for everything.

  You say BP shouldn't have to pay for all of this by themselves.  Who in hell is suppose to pay for it.  They caused it.   What a Dip Stick.

LOsborne

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 21, 2010, 12:41:21 PM
....THAT is why there is going to be a major change in Washington in November...and why there is changes in Jersey, Mass and Penn....

And Kentucky, I guess. The voters there snubbed Mitch McConnell's hand-picked candidate to make Rand Paul their Republican candidate for Senate.  Not only does Paul think it's unfair to expect BP to clean up their own mess, he thinks it is wrong to hold coal mine owners accountable for deaths in their mines.

http://www.courierpress.com/news/2010/may/21/rand-paul-obamas-criticism-bp-un-american/?partner=popular


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Palehorse

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on May 21, 2010, 08:39:24 PM
niiiiiice :rolleyes:
Quote from: LOsborne on May 21, 2010, 08:05:01 PM
And Kentucky, I guess. The voters there snubbed Mitch McConnell's hand-picked candidate to make Rand Paul their Republican candidate for Senate.  Not only does Paul think it's unfair to expect BP to clean up their own mess, he thinks it is wrong to hold coal mine owners accountable for deaths in their mines.

http://www.courierpress.com/news/2010/may/21/rand-paul-obamas-criticism-bp-un-american/?partner=popular

That guy is a real jackass isn't he?!  :rolleyes: :mad:
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me

Where does he say that he thinks its unfair to make BP pay?

Quote"What I don't like from the president's administration is this sort of, 'I'll put my boot heel on the throat of BP,'" Paul said in an interview with ABC's "Good Morning America." ''I think that sounds really un-American in his criticism of business."

QuoteOn the oil spill, Paul, a libertarian and tea party favorite, said he had heard nothing from BP indicating it wouldn't pay for the spill that threatens devastating environmental damage along the Gulf of Mexico coast.

If these are the remarks you're referring to I see nothing like that in them.  What I see is his terminology of putting a boot heel to the throat of BP not that he doesn't think they should pay. 

And you tell me I have a comprehension problem?????????
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LOsborne

Quote from: me on May 21, 2010, 08:59:45 PM
What I see is his terminology of putting a boot heel to the throat of BP not that he doesn't think they should pay. 

Really? What do you think he is objecting to about the boot heel remark? The quality of the leather?

The "boot heal to the throat" metaphor means this administration is not going to let BP pass their culpability for this mess off to anyone else. Rand Paul thinks holding BP accountable is un-American. He says "sometimes accidents happen." And it's true that accidents happen. But when I have an accident that causes damage, I have to pay for it. BP should too.

My comprehension skills are just fine, me. You seem to have a problem taking figures of speech too literally.

me

What he was saying is he heard nothing that indicated they weren't going to pay for the oil spill so why say something as crass as he was going to put a boot heel to their throats like he was going to have to force them to pay. 
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LOsborne

Quote from: me on May 22, 2010, 09:40:41 AM
What he was saying is he heard nothing that indicated they weren't going to pay for the oil spill so why say something as crass as he was going to put a boot heel to their throats like he was going to have to force them to pay. 

Then I guess neither he, nor you, heard anything about this particular question and answer session a couple of weeks ago.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/05/10/93868/bp-transocean-halliburton-will.html

It's too bad you think "boot heel to the throat" is over the top in the crassness sweepstakes. Where does forcing the Deep Water Horizon survivors to sign hold-harmless statements before seeing their families fall on your not-polite scale?


The Troll

Quote from: me on May 22, 2010, 09:40:41 AM
What he was saying is he heard nothing that indicated they weren't going to pay for the oil spill so why say something as crass as he was going to put a boot heel to their throats like he was going to have to force them to pay.

  "ME" I don't want you to completely give up the Fox New Channel, because you would have withdrawal pains.

   But you are going to have to broaden you horizion a little.  Start watching some of the other new channels, they tell the truth.  Plumber, your brain is working like a inverted septic tank the :poop: is rising to the top and clogging your brain cells.  :rotfl: :rotfl: :wacko:

me

If you'll read further back you'll see what I think of the whole thing and I'm not the one who said that I thought "boot heel to the throat" was over the top. 


Quote from: LOsborne on May 22, 2010, 10:53:22 AM
Then I guess neither he, nor you, heard anything about this particular question and answer session a couple of weeks ago.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/05/10/93868/bp-transocean-halliburton-will.html

It's too bad you think "boot heel to the throat" is over the top in the crassness sweepstakes. Where does forcing the Deep Water Horizon survivors to sign hold-harmless statements before seeing their families fall on your not-polite scale?
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LOsborne

Quote from: me on May 22, 2010, 12:09:49 PM
....I'm not the one who said that I thought "boot heel to the throat" was over the top.

Yes, you were.

...why say something as crass as he was going to put a boot heel to their throats...

me

 :groan: Will you just please quit already.  For someone who is supposed to be so smooth and well spoken as Obama that was a crass remark. 

Quote from: LOsborne on May 22, 2010, 02:48:18 PM
Yes, you were.

...why say something as crass as he was going to put a boot heel to their throats...
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Palehorse

Quote from: me on May 22, 2010, 04:29:17 PM
:groan: Will you just please quit already.  For someone who is supposed to be so smooth and well spoken as Obama that was a crass remark.
:food24:

The POTUS never said that and I challenge you to produce something that proves he did. That closet nazi Rand Paul said it so he is the crass ass!
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me

How can a Libertarian who believes in very little government be a Nazi? 

Quote from: Palehorse on May 22, 2010, 06:47:27 PM
:food24:

The POTUS never said that and I challenge you to produce something that proves he did. That closet nazi Rand Paul said it so he is the crass ass!
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