Democrats SUCK!!

[Bo D]

But your statement above, and its implications, expose the decay.

Decay? When it comes to them, it's flat out, downright ROT!

[Bo D]

The latest adventure from Barack Obama's truth-challenged campaign took place in Iowa, where the President accused Rep. Paul Ryan, vice presidential candidate on the Republican ticket, of being "one of those leaders in Congress standing in the way" of a farm bill that would "provide relief and certainty to U.S. farmers and ranchers."
"So, if you happen to see Congressman Ryan, tell him how important this farm bill is to Iowa and our rural communities.  It's time to put politics aside and pass it right away," the President urged Iowa voters.
Which is a nice sound bite... except for the fact that the House of Representatives passed the farm bill.  The Senate, which is controlled by do-nothing Harry Reid and the Democrats, decided to blow out of Washington without voting on it.
Among other things, they objected to a $16 billion cut in the massively bloated $770 billion food stamp program – whose funding makes up fully 80 percent of the "farm bill."  The size of the food stamp program has doubled since 2008, with approximately one in seven Americans now receiving food assistance.  The House bill accomplished this largely by means-testing food stamps to ensure certain asset and income limits were met – a measure whose necessity will come as a surprise to the vast number of American voters who think food stamps already work that way.
For the benefit of Obama supporters unclear about how Congress works, Paul Ryan is a "Representative," which means he serves in the House of Representatives, not the Senate.  And in any event, Ryan does not sit on the House Agriculture Committee, so while he would vote on any given agriculture bill, he would not have a pivotal role in "blocking" one.
The Senate did send a food stamp bill... er, excuse me, "farm bill"... to the House earlier this year, which reduced the food stamp program by only $4.5 billion, but the House voted on its own bill instead.  Such games of legislative tennis are not uncommon when the issue is hotly debated.  There's no doubt that the ball was in the Senate's court when the whistle for the August recess was blown.
The farm states are currently suffering through a drought, which adds urgency to the debate.  For this reason, the House separated drought relief from the rest of the highly contentious farm bill and passed $383 million in emergency disaster relief separately on August 2.  The ranking Democrat on the House Agricultural Committee, Rep. Collin Peterson of Minnesota, criticized this move, insisting that "weathering a natural disaster without the certainty of a five-year bill could damage one of the bright spots we have in this economy."  Paul Ryan voted for it.  The Senate refused to vote on the measure, so it joined the 30-plus pro-growth jobs bills passed by the House, only to gather dust on Harry Reid's desk.
But now Paul Ryan, who doesn't even sit on the Agriculture Committee, is blamed by President Obama for "blocking" that very drought relief!  And this is the same President who claims he cannot be held accountable for a single thing that has gone wrong in America since the day he took office.  Why not hold Democrats responsible for making farmers suffer, because they can't accept even a modest reduction in their precious food stamp program?
There have been a lot of twists and turns in the farm bill saga, but it's incredibly disingenuous of Obama to portray Ryan as the guy Iowa farmers should be angry with.  It reeks of sheer panic and desperation on the President's part.
Of course, he's betting that the media won't call him on it, and so far, he's right – very few mainstream press accounts have done much more than relay Obama's accusation, and occasionally the response from Romney campaign staff.  As reported by the Washington Times, Romney campaign spokesman Ryan Williams said, "The truth is no one will work harder to defend farmers and ranchers than the Romney-Ryan ticket.  After nearly four years of failure, it's no wonder that Barack Obama returns to the state that launched his presidential campaign with nothing more than broken promises and false attacks."
This is all part of a very old game played in Congress.  Many disparate subjects – such as food stamps and drought relief – are gathered into huge bills with pleasing names.  Those who object to any component of the massive bill and vote against are accused of voting against whatever benevolent impulse is described in the title of the bill, and hating whichever group of nominal beneficiaries sound most sympathetic to voters.  Thus, if you vote against the Crime Prevention and Single Mothers Act, you must want crime to get worse, and hate single mothers, regardless of what your specific objection to the actual text of the bill might be.
If there are competing bills covering the same topic, each party pretends that only legislation passed by the house of Congress under its control exists at all.  As you can see from the farm bill debate, few of our elected representatives are eager to give up that sort of valuable political obfuscation by breaking huge bills down into individual measures and casting clear votes on specific issues.
If the Republicans controlled both houses of Congress, and Obama vetoed a hundred bills they placed on his desk, he would still describe them as the "obstructionists."  One of the problems with Big Government is that it's very difficult to pin down individual accountability for anything it does.  Any given congressional representative can be said to have voted for, or against, a great many different things, with every single vote he casts.

Henry never did reveal the source of this lie.

Turns out it's from ....

Human Events
Powerful Conservative Voices
http://www.humanevents.com/2012/08/14/obama-falsely-attacks-paul-ryan-over-farm-bill/

They should change that to ..
Powerful Stench of Conservative Voices

[Palehorse]

*Crickets*

[Henry Hawk]

That poster should have stated that Ryan "addressed" the farm bill 2 weeks ago.......with a disaster relief bill...that will give $383 million to cattle and sheep ranchers who lost livestock in the drough and assist them with monthl feed costs....It reimburses ranchers up to 75% of their losses.
Most farmers have federally assisted insurance policies to help them along....

So, this ad DID not tell exactly correct.....congress did NOT pass the "Farm Bill" as introduced by the senate...it was a disaster relief bill by congress that address' the farmer and the drought.

[Bo D]

So, this ad LIED!  DID not tell exactly correct....

[Henry Hawk]

 

[Locutus]

Ok, just for those who are keeping count, and this is just recently I might add, we have two lies.  Both of them from "me's" keyboard. 

We have these two:

[Locutus]

We need to start a thread called the 'Lie Tracker' and every time someone posts a flat out lie, we should add it to that thread.  Kind of a shame on you type of thread. 

[Bo D]

We need to start a thread called the 'Lie Tracker' and every time someone posts a flat out lie, we should add it to that thread.  Kind of a shame on you type of thread. 

WOOOHOOO! Please do it!!!

Let's play Diogenes!

[Locutus]

WOOOHOOO! Please do it!!!

Let's play Diogenes!

[me]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703649004575437311393854940.html



How ObamaCare Guts Medicare
The president's pledge that 'If you like your health plan, you will be able to keep it' clearly does not apply to America's seniors.

By PETER FERRARA
AND LARRY HUNTER

The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee has attacked Senate Republican candidates for wanting "to end Medicare as we know it." And in Nevada's hotly contested Senate race, Majority Leader Harry Reid is attacking Republican Sharron Angle, saying she wants to "gut" Medicare. But Mr. Reid has already gutted it. He and his colleagues did so by passing ObamaCare.

Senior Editorial Writer Joseph Rago explains the increase in insurance premiums. Columnist Mary Anastasia O'Grady critiques the President's plan.

In his analysis accompanying the recently released Annual Report of the Medicare Board of Trustees, Richard Foster, Medicare's chief actuary, noted that Medicare payment rates for doctors and hospitals serving seniors will be cut by 30% over the next three years. Under the policies of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, by 2019 Medicare payment rates will be lower than under Medicaid. Mr. Foster notes that by the end of the 75-year projection period in the Annual Medicare Trustees Report, Medicare payment rates will be one-third of what will be paid by private insurance, and only half of what is paid by Medicaid.

Altogether, ObamaCare cuts $818 billion from Medicare Part A (hospital insurance) from 2014-2023, the first 10 years of its full implementation, and $3.2 trillion over the first 20 years, 2014-2033. Adding in ObamaCare cuts for Medicare Part B (physicians fees and other services) brings the total cut to $1.05 trillion over the first 10 years and $4.95 trillion over the first 20 years.

These draconian cuts in Medicare payments to doctors, hospitals and other health-care providers that serve America's seniors were the basis for the Congressional Budget Office's official "score"—repeatedly cited by the president—that the health-reform legislation would actually reduce the federal deficit. But Mr. Obama never disclosed how that deficit reduction would actually be achieved.

There will be additional cuts under ObamaCare to Medicare Advantage, the private option to Medicare that close to one-fourth of all seniors have chosen for their coverage under the program because it gives them a better deal. Mr. Foster estimates that 50% of all seniors with Medicare Advantage will lose their plan because of these cuts. Mr. Obama's pledge that "If you like your health plan, you will be able to keep it" clearly does not apply to America's seniors.

Moreover, there will be additional cuts to Medicare adopted by bureaucrats at the Medicare Independent Payment Advisory Board. ObamaCare empowers this board to close Medicare financing gaps by adopting further Medicare cuts that would become effective without any congressional action. Mr. Foster reports that "The Secretary of HHS is required to implement the Board's recommendations unless the statutory process is overridden by new legislation."

The drastic reductions in Medicare reimbursements under ObamaCare will create havoc and chaos in health care for seniors. Many doctors, surgeons and specialists providing critical care to the elderly—such as surgery for hip and knee replacements, sophisticated diagnostics through MRIs and CT scans, and even treatment for cancer and heart disease—will cease serving Medicare patients. If the government is not going to pay, then seniors are not going to get the health services, treatment and care they expect.

Mr. Foster reports that two-thirds of hospitals already lose money on Medicare patients. Under ObamaCare it will get much worse. Hospitals also will shut down or stop serving Medicare patients.

The president's concept of spreading the wealth includes sacking the Medicare system, on which America's seniors have come to rely for medical care, in favor of others the president's progressive vision deems more worthy.

Everyone should know by now that Medicare suffers dramatic long-term deficits and unfunded liabilities, and is in need of fundamental, structural reforms. But effectively refusing to pay the doctors and hospitals that provide the medical care the program promises to seniors is no way to solve that problem.

Mr. Ferrara is director of entitlement and budget policy at the Institute for Policy Innovation and author of "The ObamaCare Disaster," forthcoming from the Heartland Institute. Mr. Hunter is president of the Social Security Institute.

[Exterminator]

Learn the difference between opinion and fact, racist hag.

[me]

Learn the difference between opinion and fact, racist hag.

Then you do the same ass wipe.  You put an opinion piece on I put one on so what makes you so special?  Any of this is opinion until it actually takes effect, then and only then will it become fact.

[Bo D]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703649004575437311393854940.html



How ObamaCare Guts Medicare
The president's pledge that 'If you like your health plan, you will be able to keep it' clearly does not apply to America's seniors.

By PETER FERRARA
AND LARRY HUNTER

The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee has attacked Senate Republican candidates for wanting "to end Medicare as we know it." And in Nevada's hotly contested Senate race, Majority Leader Harry Reid is attacking Republican Sharron Angle, saying she wants to "gut" Medicare. But Mr. Reid has already gutted it. He and his colleagues did so by passing ObamaCare.

Senior Editorial Writer Joseph Rago explains the increase in insurance premiums. Columnist Mary Anastasia O'Grady critiques the President's plan.

In his analysis accompanying the recently released Annual Report of the Medicare Board of Trustees, Richard Foster, Medicare's chief actuary, noted that Medicare payment rates for doctors and hospitals serving seniors will be cut by 30% over the next three years. Under the policies of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, by 2019 Medicare payment rates will be lower than under Medicaid. Mr. Foster notes that by the end of the 75-year projection period in the Annual Medicare Trustees Report, Medicare payment rates will be one-third of what will be paid by private insurance, and only half of what is paid by Medicaid.

Altogether, ObamaCare cuts $818 billion from Medicare Part A (hospital insurance) from 2014-2023, the first 10 years of its full implementation, and $3.2 trillion over the first 20 years, 2014-2033. Adding in ObamaCare cuts for Medicare Part B (physicians fees and other services) brings the total cut to $1.05 trillion over the first 10 years and $4.95 trillion over the first 20 years.

These draconian cuts in Medicare payments to doctors, hospitals and other health-care providers that serve America's seniors were the basis for the Congressional Budget Office's official "score"—repeatedly cited by the president—that the health-reform legislation would actually reduce the federal deficit. But Mr. Obama never disclosed how that deficit reduction would actually be achieved.

There will be additional cuts under ObamaCare to Medicare Advantage, the private option to Medicare that close to one-fourth of all seniors have chosen for their coverage under the program because it gives them a better deal. Mr. Foster estimates that 50% of all seniors with Medicare Advantage will lose their plan because of these cuts. Mr. Obama's pledge that "If you like your health plan, you will be able to keep it" clearly does not apply to America's seniors.

Moreover, there will be additional cuts to Medicare adopted by bureaucrats at the Medicare Independent Payment Advisory Board. ObamaCare empowers this board to close Medicare financing gaps by adopting further Medicare cuts that would become effective without any congressional action. Mr. Foster reports that "The Secretary of HHS is required to implement the Board's recommendations unless the statutory process is overridden by new legislation."

The drastic reductions in Medicare reimbursements under ObamaCare will create havoc and chaos in health care for seniors. Many doctors, surgeons and specialists providing critical care to the elderly—such as surgery for hip and knee replacements, sophisticated diagnostics through MRIs and CT scans, and even treatment for cancer and heart disease—will cease serving Medicare patients. If the government is not going to pay, then seniors are not going to get the health services, treatment and care they expect.

Mr. Foster reports that two-thirds of hospitals already lose money on Medicare patients. Under ObamaCare it will get much worse. Hospitals also will shut down or stop serving Medicare patients.

The president's concept of spreading the wealth includes sacking the Medicare system, on which America's seniors have come to rely for medical care, in favor of others the president's progressive vision deems more worthy.

Everyone should know by now that Medicare suffers dramatic long-term deficits and unfunded liabilities, and is in need of fundamental, structural reforms. But effectively refusing to pay the doctors and hospitals that provide the medical care the program promises to seniors is no way to solve that problem.

Mr. Ferrara is director of entitlement and budget policy at the Institute for Policy Innovation and author of "The ObamaCare Disaster," forthcoming from the Heartland Institute. Mr. Hunter is president of the Social Security Institute.

Tell us EXACTLY how this differs from the Ryan Medicare plan?

[The Troll]

   Everything that comes out of "ME" and the Hawk mouth is from the Republican Talking Points.

  What I would like to hear from their mouths is what the twins have against Obama.  What has Obama done to "ME" and the Hawk and how he has harmed them.  If they could come up with some legitimate thing to criticize Obama for.  Something that he did that was wrong.  Some one thing that he slipped by the Republican House of Representives that has damaged this county. 

  Something that has happen to this country was bad and was not cause by the Republican Party and dumb ass and clown George W. Bush.   

  Tho they won't admit it is,  "ME" and the Hawk's  main problem with Obama is that he is black and that he's a Democrat and nothing else.