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The Supreme Court Is Wrong!

Started by Exterminator, January 22, 2010, 08:11:35 AM

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Henry Hawk

#15
January 27, 2010, 04:15:59 PM
all I am saying is I do not trust the government to determine WHO gets the right to speak publicly and WHO should be silenced....and THAT was what was happening....before this ruling.

I DO think there should be a law that stipulates that ALL corparate money that is used for political purposes MUST be approved by the shareholders....

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#16
January 27, 2010, 04:36:54 PM
No, Henry, that is not what was happening.   :rolleyes:
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Henry Hawk

#17
January 27, 2010, 05:01:51 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on January 27, 2010, 04:36:54 PM
No, Henry, that is not what was happening.   :rolleyes:

Well, what WAS happening was the Government said that Corporations does not have the right of free-speech to engage in public debate of political issues.....and NOW, they can....as they SHOULD be.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

All I am saying is.....Freedom of speech has no restrictions on WHO or WHAT it applies to...
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

followsthewolf

#18
January 27, 2010, 06:03:46 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 27, 2010, 05:01:51 PM
Well, what WAS happening was the Government said that Corporations does not have the right of free-speech to engage in public debate of political issues.....and NOW, they can....as they SHOULD be.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

All I am saying is.....Freedom of speech has no restrictions on WHO or WHAT it applies to...

UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM...................YES, IT DOES, HENRY. DO SOME MORE RESEARCH.
Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

Palehorse

#19
January 27, 2010, 10:50:05 PM
Even the President of the United States understands how wrong this decision was, and said so right in front of the wise fools from the hill, and the American people, in tonight's State of the Union Address.

I found it very interesting and hilarious to see the frowns on their faces when he called them on it too!  :biggrin: (A couple of them even shook their heads to disagree with him during that portion of his speech!)

The POTUS's reasoning was exactly spot on and virtually mirrored the dissenting opinions expressed within this very topic! Almost verbatim!  :yes:

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Palehorse

#20
January 27, 2010, 10:51:38 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on January 22, 2010, 08:11:35 AM
Seriously...the biggest problem with our political system is that it is controlled by corporate interests and the Supreme Court finds that limits on how much money corporations can spend on political advertising are unconstitutional?  In which part of the Constitution are non-human entities granted rights?

The POTUS said the same thing this evening!
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Locutus

#21
January 27, 2010, 11:07:07 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on January 27, 2010, 10:50:05 PM
Even the President of the United States understands how wrong this decision was, and said so right in front of the wise fools from the hill, and the American people, in tonight's State of the Union Address.




He also said that in front of the members of the SCOTUS who rendered that decision. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

#22
January 27, 2010, 11:08:47 PM
Unfortunately, the SCOTUS is also politicized. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Palehorse

#23
January 27, 2010, 11:09:28 PM
Quote from: Locutus on January 27, 2010, 11:07:07 PM
He also said that in front of the members of the SCOTUS who rendered that decision.

:biggrin: And a couple of them sat there shaking their heads as he was spanking them over it!  :biggrin:

Not a smile crossed a single face in that group!
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

#24
January 27, 2010, 11:11:45 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on January 27, 2010, 11:09:28 PM
:biggrin: And a couple of them sat there shaking their heads as he was spanking them over it!  :biggrin:

Not a smile crossed a single face in that group!

because he was wrong....
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

#25
January 27, 2010, 11:15:05 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 27, 2010, 11:11:45 PM
because he was wrong....

I'm sorry but I strongly disagree. As Ex's opening statement made very clear, that is exactly what is wrong with our congress and political system today; too many insurance companies and big oil companies swaying the votes on key legislation, like healthcare reform for example.

This decision just "opened the floodgates" and will make it 100 times worse than it has been to this point!
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Locutus

#26
January 27, 2010, 11:29:54 PM
I said it once and I'll say it again.  Having corporations deciding what is and should be news is just as bad as having insurance companies deciding what is and should be health care. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

#27
January 27, 2010, 11:35:23 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 27, 2010, 11:11:45 PM
because he was wrong....

Henry, I'd love to hear just one cogent explanation as to how this decision by the SCOTUS benefits you, me, the members of the forum, and the American people.  Please tell me how this decision, which extends corporate influence into the political process of this country can possibly benefit you or anyone else. 

Please show me just once that you can weigh the pros and cons of an issue such as this. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Henry Hawk

#28
January 27, 2010, 11:52:15 PM
Quote from: Locutus on January 27, 2010, 11:35:23 PM
Henry, I'd love to hear just one cogent explanation as to how this decision by the SCOTUS benefits you, me, the members of the forum, and the American people.  Please tell me how this decision, which extends corporate influence into the political process of this country can possibly benefit you or anyone else. 

Please show me just once that you can weigh the pros and cons of an issue such as this. 

it comes down to simply acting according to our Constitution....McCain/Fiengold was constitutionally wrong...and it go revoked...period.

that is the pros and cons of this issue.....the scotus did what was right.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

#29
January 28, 2010, 12:07:37 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 27, 2010, 11:52:15 PM
....the scotus did what was right.

No. They just reduced our individual votes to nothing more than toilet paper.  :rant:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville
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