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The Supreme Court Is Wrong!

Started by Exterminator, January 22, 2010, 08:11:35 AM

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Exterminator

Seriously...the biggest problem with our political system is that it is controlled by corporate interests and the Supreme Court finds that limits on how much money corporations can spend on political advertising are unconstitutional?  In which part of the Constitution are non-human entities granted rights?
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followsthewolf

One government for sale to highest corporate bidder.

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Locutus

Quote from: Exterminator on January 22, 2010, 08:11:35 AM
In which part of the Constitution are non-human entities granted rights?

It amazes me how much we think alike.  When I first heard of that decision yesterday, that was the first thing that crossed my mind.  If anything, this will further muddy the waters come election time.  Corporations already have a powerful voice in Washington via the various lobbyists.  Now, it seems, their voice has become more powerful.

Unfortunately, we still have several years of this kind of crap from the SCOTUS due to Bush appointing the likes of Roberts and Alito to the court.    >:(
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Palehorse

Sometimes I think the idiots in the Supreme Court are retarded. . . I know we are supposed to hire the handicapped but putting them into positions of authority seems a bit risky doesn't it?  :icon_evil: :mad:
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followsthewolf

What do you expect? There is a 5-4 conservative majority, courtesy of Bush.

5-4 was the vote; precisely down those lines
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Palehorse

Quote from: followsthewolf on January 22, 2010, 04:54:39 PM
What do you expect? There is a 5-4 conservative majority, courtesy of Bush.

5-4 was the vote; precisely down those lines

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?

Quote from: followsthewolf on January 22, 2010, 04:54:39 PM
What do you expect? There is a 5-4 conservative majority, courtesy of Bush.

5-4 was the vote; precisely down those lines

It's also a well known fact, as this ruling clearly shows, that the conservatives always favor the corporations over individuals.  It was on clear display during the health care debate, and it's on clear display with this ruling. 
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-- Voltaire

followsthewolf

Probably because they all think they're the next billionaire entrepreneur and don't want to lose a single dime to anyone else. Or, if they don't become rich, at least they won't have to give a dime to the gub'mint in taxes.

Most have an overinflated value of their own intelligence and talents.

The most brilliant people I have ever met are some of the most humble and giving.   
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Palehorse

Quote from: followsthewolf on January 22, 2010, 06:09:49 PM
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The most brilliant people I have ever met are some of the most humble and giving.

I have also found this to be very true!  :yes:
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

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Henry Hawk

okay, help me out here and explain to me, how exactly it is constitutional, to tell ANYONE (individuals or companies) that they cannot express their voice or spend their money to do so, simply because it is X number of days before and election?

The first admendment protects EVERYONE to the freedom of speech...and the Court simply stood behind it as the should have....
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Exterminator

Companies are not people, ergo, are afforded no rights by the Constitution or the Bill of Rights.  It really isn't that difficult to understand.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on January 27, 2010, 02:59:04 PM
Companies are not people, ergo, are afforded no rights by the Constitution or the Bill of Rights.  It really isn't that difficult to understand.

so that makes it okay for our government to stifle a company from spending it's money what THEY think is not fair...such as GM or Ford endorsing a candidate, but yet it is okay for the Media (MSNBC or FOX) to do the same thing?...

I think the law that was overturned was a bad law in the first place.....

Actually,  I don't particularly like ANY corporations or unions as far as that goes, to tell us who or who we cannot voter for.........but I like it even less that our government is telling us what we can and cannot say!  :rant:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
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"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

So you really don't have any issues with the influence that corporations already have in Washington and why not give them more?  Seriously?  Wow...I have no words...
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on January 27, 2010, 03:39:09 PM
So you really don't have any issues with the influence that corporations already have in Washington and why not give them more?  Seriously?  Wow...I have no words...

so your answer is for government to start telling the people HOW to spend their money?....and HOW and WHEN to speak?....What about the "Influences that the MEDIA" has in Washington?...is that next?.....Why don't they make laws to get rid of lobbyiests?......
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

You've taken a lot of really bad positions on this forum in the past but this one takes the cake.  :no:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.