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How far do we go to keep America safe?...

Started by Henry Hawk, April 24, 2009, 08:44:59 AM

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Quote from: LOsborne on April 29, 2009, 07:25:34 PM
Quote from: me on April 29, 2009, 07:02:55 PM
Beheadings are meant to scare people into submission not obtain information to save lives.
So you admit you aren't interested in life-saving information.
What?????  Where did I say I approved of beheadings? Quit trying to twist things.
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LOsborne

Quote from: pariann on April 29, 2009, 07:10:06 PMI'm guessing you didn't see The Signal :wink:
Oh shit. I missed it. Thanks for the heads-up, Pari.

pariann

LOL, yeah...according to the one guy....just hook a battery generator up to the brain...and the head will tell you everything you want to know. :wink:
Looks like I've come full circle.


LOsborne

Your first source discusses a briefing four members of Congress received on waterboarding, SEVEN years ago. Seven years ago the United States had not yet started the second gulf war, so the discussion was academic. The source does not discuss legislation of any kind. The four members who received the briefing did not attempt to act on the information they received.

Your second source is an editorial (that's opinion, not news) discussing two efforts made by Congressional Democrats in 2006 and 2008 (the Bush years) to limit interrogation techniques to those defined in the Army field manual. The legislation (to prohibit waterboarding) passed, but was vetoed by President Bush.

Neither source contains ONE WORD about legislation to make waterboarding legal. You said (direct quote) "The method was ok'ed by congress, it was not done illegally." Show me the legislation in which Congress "ok'ed" waterboarding.
It's a simple request: SHOW (verb) LEGISLATION (direct object)

LOsborne

Quote from: pariann on April 29, 2009, 07:43:40 PM
....just hook a battery generator up to the brain...and the head will tell you everything you want to know.
Well sure, but how will we know that what the head said is true? :fortune:

pariann

The threat of disconnecting the battery generator?

Oh wait I forgot.   Never mind that you need to be able to breath to be able to talk....the head will most likely demand a cigarette before spilling the beans.  If you have a butt on ya, you will be in business. :wink:
Looks like I've come full circle.

LOsborne

Quote from: pariann on April 29, 2009, 08:20:58 PM
  If you have a butt on ya, you will be in business. :wink:
Considering the price of cigarettes today, that's pricey info. I'm gonna need a warranty.

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pariann

Looks like I've come full circle.

Sandy Eggo

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pariann

LOL.....sorry about the hijack.....but someone had to do something here.
Looks like I've come full circle.

Sandy Eggo

Quote from: Exterminator on April 29, 2009, 01:03:44 PM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on April 29, 2009, 12:57:02 PM
As for torture, I think you agree with Ex more than you think and perhaps the slight antagonism between you...keeps you from seeing it. You said that you don't support torture but you do support the right to interrogate. I don't think anyone would disagree with interrogation sans torture.

Not true...go back and re-read the thread; his attitude is that the ends justify the means.

Actually, I stand totally corrected...you're right. I saw a glimmer of hope, but I was mistaken.  :-\
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

Exterminator

Quote from: me on April 29, 2009, 04:30:56 PM
I hate to admit it but I could not pass a quize on the Bible because I have never read it so ya can't pull that "Christian" hypocrite stuff on me it won't work.

Hell, you can't even spell 'quiz'!
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Quote from: Exterminator on April 30, 2009, 07:26:39 AM
Quote from: me on April 29, 2009, 04:30:56 PM
I hate to admit it but I could not pass a quize on the Bible because I have never read it so ya can't pull that "Christian" hypocrite stuff on me it won't work.

Hell, you can't even spell 'quiz'!
Just wanted to give you something to do....you know...make you feel useful.... :razz:
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