This could be a win if they don't notify anyone when they open the gates and let the water in! (http://heraldbulletin.com/bigstory/x620874989/Reservoir-proposed-for-area) :biggrin:
Figures Ocky would have thought that was a good idea. I'm sure glad Smith isn't for it I think somebody hit their head.
The sad reality is that if something isn't done to control the storm water, and better control implemented over the flooding of the White River, the county may not have to spend a dime and get a reservoir anyway.
"When the levee breaks, momma you got to move. . . " :music1: :rock:
http://www.youtube.com/v/wEKkJHSO8A0
Quote from: Exterminator on March 15, 2013, 12:29:35 PM
This could be a win if they don't notify anyone when they open the gates and let the water in! (http://heraldbulletin.com/bigstory/x620874989/Reservoir-proposed-for-area) :biggrin:
Anderson would do what Indianapolis did with Morse and Geist Reservoirs. Steal the land under eminent domain and then make it a private lake by selling million dollar lots for super rich people to build million dollar houses.
Since old King Smith couldn't steal 27 acres of farm land, I guess he wants to drown part of Anderson. Nice try on stealing farm ground King Kevin. :haha: :haha: And old "ME" and Henry just loves King Kevin. :haha:
Quote from: The Troll on March 15, 2013, 12:47:23 PM
Anderson would do what Indianapolis did with Morse and Geist Reservoirs. Steal the land under eminent domain and then make it a private lake by selling million dollar lots for super rich people to build million dollar houses.
Since old King Smith couldn't steal 27 acres of farm land, I guess he wants to drown part of Anderson. Nice try on stealing farm ground King Kevin. :haha: :haha: And old "ME" and Henry just loves King Kevin. :haha:
This wasn't Smith's idea and from what little I have read about it he is not in favor of it. It did however obtain the support of Ocky and his "Farm Team". . . . :rolleyes:
Again I will state that sooner or later this will become reality when that levee breaks. . .
Quote from: me on March 15, 2013, 12:35:35 PM
I'm sure glad Smith isn't for it I think somebody hit their head.
Where does it say that Smith isn't for it?
Quote from: Exterminator on March 15, 2013, 12:51:38 PM
Where does it say that Smith isn't for it?
Read the article.
Quote from: me on March 15, 2013, 11:30:31 PM
Read the article.
I did...twice; it doesn't say that at all.
From the article posted: . . .Anderson Mayor Kevin Smith said he's been aware of the concept for about a year. But Smith said his administration has played no role in the project's development and that it wasn't a factor in his Anderson Fast Forward Annexation proposals. Sparks said he first discussed the idea with Kris Ockomon, who was Anderson mayor 2008-11, and that the Ockomon administration was supportive of developing the proposal. . . "It's an interesting project," Smith said Thursday. "Obviously, this has some long-term ramifications for the City of Anderson. It sounds logical, and its seems viable for the city."
He noted that the project's scope would be challenging, but he said such an attraction would make Anderson a recreational destination and improve the city's quality of life, drawing new housing and retail opportunities and other economic development to Anderson and surrounding areas. . .
http://heraldbulletin.com/bigstory/x620874989/Reservoir-proposed-for-area (http://heraldbulletin.com/bigstory/x620874989/Reservoir-proposed-for-area)
So it would seem this project was "hatched" under the Ocky Administration; the same one that brought us the busted Farm project. However that isn't the end of things it would seem.
Madison County politics being what they are, the powers that oppose the current administrations "Fast Forward" project are now diligently at work spinning the reservoir project and trying to connect it directly to fast forward and the current Mayor's administration.
This smacks of payback for the dead farm project, and most certainly is business as usual surrounding Madison County politics. Accusations of back room dealings and closed door politics abound, and the mud slinging is reaching a fever pitch with Mike Gaskill going so far as to create a web site specifically to undermine the current administration and its plans by throwing about innuendo, half truths, and in some cases outright lies in his effort to do so.
http://www.madisoncountyalert.com (http://www.madisoncountyalert.com)
And Madison County, being what it is, has no shortage of individuals ready, willing, and able to pile on and whip the whole county into a frenzy of emotional turmoil; with little to no thought surrounding what should be done to ensure the future of the citizens of the county and the city of Anderson. In fact little to no constructive dialog surrounding any of the plans on the table is to be found. Instead, we get an endless stream of one-upmanship commentary from mostly both sides; and the whole while the city of Anderson and Madison County itself continues to decline.
The people of this city and county have to ask themselves a question; Do you want to be able to live here for the next 20 years or more, enjoying the county and city service levels you current have,( or heaven forbid improved levels of service), or do you want to see those service levels slashed even further?
Your answer should dictate your position on both of these "plans". The rest of this is nothing more than flotsam!
It would behoove all elected officials to remember that you work for us and at our discretion. Stop the political games and get busy with the jobs you were elected to do.
(Sorry Ex. I was not trying to answer for her. This post came as a direct result of my personal frustration with Madison County politics.)
And now the state and federal alphabet soup groups are delving into the proposal.
Seems this may be something that will become a reality within the next 5-10 years. . . :spooked:
Can you believe this???? LOL
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y286/deerladie/LemonDrop_zps4541ca8e.jpg)
LOL...that's awesome!
Quote from: Exterminator on March 20, 2013, 09:25:16 AM
LOL...that's awesome!
If the brains in Anderson build the lake they will fill it with shad and carp so nobody will fish the their private lake. :yes: :biggrin:
The project is going to be a mess, and if it actually goes forward it will be on the backs of the taxpayers and a limited group of rich folks will get even richer using them. We've seen that same scenario played out again and again here in Indiana. Think of the 69 project as one of the recent. The road's already falling apart in places, but those on the in are making money hand over fist with land speculation - which is what that road was all about anyway. It will be the same thing with this project.
IIRC, Pari's Brent had a house down by the river off Cincinnati Ave. that .gov - or someone using the auspices of .gov - bought from him ostensibly for flood plain reasons - .gov was buying everyone's house in that area - but now it appears that was being done to clear the way for the dam and reservoir.
Greater Indianapolis Metro area is going to need water and the current supplies aren't enough now, much less to sustain any further growth, so .gov or .biz is going to be looking for any feasible sites for large reservoirs and prolly has been for years. (I know of a plan that has existed since the 50s or 60s for Pipe Creek up this way to be turned into a reservoir - that will also prolly come to fruition in the future.) With Anderson becoming a relative ghost town and losing it's state political clout, I'd wager this reservoir idea to actually happen sooner than later. It also has the added boon of flood control on the lower White River.
The real problems I see are crossing access and pollution. The mall and surrounding area sits on several dumps and you have a junkyard and a GM dump site out east at Rangeline Road. I'd also like to see what it would do to the archeological sites at Mounds.
I've canoed the river a multitude of times, including all the way from Nebo Road to Perkinsville, and there are some beautiful stretches of river from Muncie to Anderson with some fantastic wildlife, including blue herons, which also might present problems for the plan.
I don't know if I have an opinion for or against it as yet.
How it's to be developed is one reason I'd really like to see a detailed plan. Without that, it's going to be hard to assess any positive economic impact outside of available water.
I suspect state government sees Anderson as a lost cause. I'd really like to see an honest population count because I'd just about lay money Anderson proper has barely 20 - 30k left and that's going to be a prime factor I think.
I haven't been out that way, but from what I gather from talk is that Chesterfield's plant is north of 32 but I don't know if it's on the low ground by the river or up on the higher ground towards the veterinary clinic. I would assume it's on the high ground due to flood concerns so it shouldn't be a problem.
I think the environmental concerns are where the big problems will lie. If we have another scorching summer then this project will start moving forward like a steamroller.
I think the fact Anderson property values, including commercial property, have gone in the toilet also makes this project feasible. Property owners will be glad to take their money and run to a better climate.
A water emergency this summer will do the deed. I think that the annexation was why this project was leaked. Personally, I think that in light of the reservoir project the annexation makes perfect sense for the future of Anderson. Create the reservoir and move the city proper to the southwest along the 69 corridor where all the development is happening anyway. Anderson would then end up swallowing Lapel and Pendleton and become the metro area for Madison County which would mean increased economic development on the order of what has happened to Fishers and Noblesville. The economics of it certainly would help the area.
The thing meets too many needs that really don't have anything to do with Anderson, and Anderson is too far down the tubes, so this is the perfect storm.
Just as soon as this is set in concrete, I thoroughly suspect the annexation will see another go round and will pass and then plans for Anderson proper to move southwest will surface.
Anderson doesn't present anything resembling viability for new business unless they annex to the southwest. There are several areas from which to draw traffic away from Marion and Hamilton counties if Anderson gets that done and it will make those businesses interested.
I expect the northern two-thirds of the county to slowly fade back into sleepy farming communities and the county's southwest 69 corridor to become really active.
I just read that article for the first time today after seeing it discussed on this forum for days now. The one thing that jumped out at me was this sentence:
"The idea was first suggested by Ricker Oil Co. President and CEO Quinn Ricker during a Leadership Academy of Madison County class in 2010. Sparks was also a participant in that class."
Now we all know that no oil company CEO is going to have an idea of his own unless he can make money on it. How would Ricker benefit from the development of the reservoir?
Quote from: Locutus on March 20, 2013, 09:37:32 PM
I just read that article for the first time today after seeing it discussed on this forum for days now. The one thing that jumped out at me was this sentence:
"The idea was first suggested by Ricker Oil Co. President and CEO Quinn Ricker during a Leadership Academy of Madison County class in 2010. Sparks was also a participant in that class."
Now we all know that no oil company CEO is going to have an idea of his own unless he can make money on it. How would Ricker benefit from the development of the reservoir?
He owns several convenience stores in town and one in Chesterfield. Not sure about other properties he may own.
Does he own the Lemon Drop Drive In and Marina? :biggrin:
I don't think so, last I knew he only owns practially all the gas stations and convenience stores in and around Anderson. Heck, the Lemon Drop might do even better if it was lakeside, all those fishermen could drive their boats up and get lunch!
Quote from: Locutus on March 20, 2013, 09:52:58 PM
Does he own the Lemon Drop Drive In and Marina? :biggrin:
The last I knew a local realtor owned that.... LOL
Is the food good there? ;D
Quote from: Locutus on March 20, 2013, 09:59:08 PM
Is the food good there? ;D
They have what you might call a cult following. I tried it once thought it pretty much sucked and haven't been back since. I mostly went to support a fellow realtor and he happened to be in there cooking the day I was there. That may have been the problem.....LOL
Skating on the réservoir? I doubt it.
More than likely there will be so many people drowning from such an activity, they'll write tickets for anyone venturing out onto any ice that may form there. . . :rolleyes:
Quote from: Locutus on March 20, 2013, 09:59:08 PM
Is the food good there? ;D
Depends on what you are looking for. It really is a 50's diner. I don't think the menu has changed since it opened except they don't have malts anymore. Their onionburger was voted best in Indiana. I like their ham sandwiches and fries. If you go at lunch or dinner time you will have to wait for a table. The waitresses never write down your order and I have never had them mess up my order.
Quote from: me on March 20, 2013, 09:58:52 PM
The last I knew a local realtor owned that.... LOL
I am not sure, but I think the only people who owned it were Jack Lemon, and Bill Pitts. Another guy had it for awhile but he was making a mess of it and it went back to Mr. Pitts.
Quote from: Anne on March 21, 2013, 12:44:04 PM
I am not sure, but I think the only people who owned it were Jack Lemon, and Bill Pitts. Another guy had it for awhile but he was making a mess of it and it went back to Mr. Pitts.
Bill Pitts is the person I was referring to.
And now come the days of the greedy. . .
And the ball is rolling.
I'm waiting to hear how the proponents of this reservoir intend to deal with toxins etc. that lie underneath the areas lining the bypass south of the river to Mounds Road. I don't care what the Cooks have said, that area was multiple dumps - including the mall area.
Pipe were sunk back in the late 70's early 80's to vent off the methane gas that was seeping up from those old dumps...which puts the lie to Cooks claims that the mall area was never a dump. Besides, I went to all those dumps - including the mall area one - with my old man when I was young.
If they flood that area, all those toxins are going to contaminate the reservoir for who knows how long. I know I certainly wouldn't want to drink the water.
Quote from: Y on April 11, 2013, 04:03:38 PM
And the ball is rolling.
I'm waiting to hear how the proponents of this reservoir intend to deal with toxins etc. that lie underneath the areas lining the bypass south of the river to Mounds Road. I don't care what the Cooks have said, that area was multiple dumps - including the mall area.
Pipe were sunk back in the late 70's early 80's to vent off the methane gas that was seeping up from those old dumps...which puts the lie to Cooks claims that the mall area was never a dump. Besides, I went to all those dumps - including the mall area one - with my old man when I was young.
If they flood that area, all those toxins are going to contaminate the reservoir for who knows how long. I know I certainly wouldn't want to drink the water.
The area which holds the Sports complex was still a dump in the when I moved here which was in the mid 60's and looked terrible. Do they not think people can remember back that far or what? Maybe they think all those contaminates have dissipated by now. The problem with that is who knows what may have been thrown in there. Batteries (car), tires, TV's, paint, the possibilities are very good all of the above are in there plus more. There were no restrictions back then that I remember.
Quote from: me on April 11, 2013, 04:21:32 PM
The area which holds the Sports complex was still a dump in the when I moved here which was in the mid 60's and looked terrible. Do they not think people can remember back that far or what? Maybe they think all those contaminates have dissipated by now. The problem with that is who knows what may have been thrown in there. Batteries (car), tires, TV's, paint, the possibilities are very good all of the above are in there plus more. There were no restrictions back then that I remember.
Are you talking about the East side of the Bypass where Big Lots is or the West side North of 18th Street (Wendy's)?
Quote from: Y on April 11, 2013, 04:24:49 PM
Are you talking about the East side of the Bypass where Big Lots is or the West side North of 18th Street (Wendy's)?
That Sports complex which has the health club, chiropractor, eye doctor, and dentist offices. That was built in the 90's. It's north of Wendy's and on the same side.
Quote from: me on April 11, 2013, 04:27:56 PM
That Sports complex which has the health club, chiropractor, eye doctor, and dentist offices. That was built in the 90's. It's north of Wendy's and on the same side.
There was stuff still being dumped there just prior to that being built. That entire area was WAY below road level.
Quote from: Y on April 11, 2013, 04:03:38 PM
...which puts the lie to Cooks claims that the mall area was never a dump.
They're seriously making that claim? Aside from those dumps, who knows what is where that was left from decades of GM polluting the city.
Quote from: me on April 11, 2013, 04:27:56 PM
That Sports complex which has the health club, chiropractor, eye doctor, and dentist offices. That was built in the 90's. It's north of Wendy's and on the same side.
Keith Berger...good chiropractor!
Quote from: Exterminator on April 11, 2013, 04:35:37 PM
They're seriously making that claim? Aside from those dumps, who knows what is where that was left from decades of GM polluting the city.
Old man Cook, Virgil, always claimed the mall area was never a dump. I knew the family and it didn't bother me to tell them it was a lie.
The family has money and IIRC most of it was made by the old man taking advantage of people's misfortune during the depression. I think he was on the board or an owner/investor in the main bank in town. He acquired massive amounts of land at theft prices and made fortunes farming it and selling it and using it for business.
Quote from: Exterminator on April 11, 2013, 04:35:37 PM
They're seriously making that claim? Aside from those dumps, who knows what is where that was left from decades of GM polluting the city.
Oh and by the way, out on Rangeline Road just North of the river is a junkyard that has been there as long as I can remember and the family has ties to city politics/government, and I can guarantee you that property is contaminated to the hilt.
Also GM had a couple of dump sites there on both sides of Rangeline. One has been turned into some sort of nature preserve, IIRC. That's on the West side, and on the East side rumor had it GM had illegally dumped all sort of toxic contaminants.
Quote from: Exterminator on April 11, 2013, 04:36:34 PM
Keith Berger...good chiropractor!
Yes, he is. I've been going to him since he was across the street.
Quote from: Y on April 11, 2013, 04:43:14 PM
Old man Cook, Virgil, always claimed the mall area was never a dump. I knew the family and it didn't bother me to tell them it was a lie.
The family has money and IIRC most of it was made by the old man taking advantage of people's misfortune during the depression. I think he was on the board or an owner/investor in the main bank in town. He acquired massive amounts of land at theft prices and made fortunes farming it and selling it and using it for business.
Damn, how does he expect to sell that anyway? There are too many people who remember what was there. Maybe he's senile.
Quote from: me on April 11, 2013, 05:40:05 PM
Yes, he is. I've been going to him since he was across the street.
I don't go to him now that I haven't lived in Anderson for years but I also went to him for years while I was in town and started when he was across the street adjacent to the old Phar-Mor store after a particularly rough skydiving parachute opening while I was wearing a camera on my helmet. I remember seeing a sign on the side of a liquor store when Phar-Mor went out saying, "now honoring all Phar-Mor beer, wine and liquor prescriptions!" :biggrin:
Quote from: Exterminator on April 11, 2013, 06:22:58 PM
I don't go to him now that I haven't lived in Anderson for years but I also went to him for years while I was in town and started when he was across the street adjacent to the old Phar-Mor store after a particularly rough skydiving parachute opening while I was wearing a camera on my helmet. I remember seeing a sign on the side of a liquor store when Phar-Mor went out saying, "now honoring all Phar-Mor beer, wine and liquor prescriptions!" :biggrin:
LOL He still has the same receptionists except for Toni and Danny Manes is no longer there since he moved to Marion.
Quote from: me on April 11, 2013, 06:34:34 PM
LOL He still has the same receptionists except for Toni and Danny Manes is no longer there since he moved to Marion.
Danny is a good massage therapist and a pretty good guitar player with whom I made music from time to time.
Quote from: Exterminator on April 11, 2013, 06:47:50 PM
Danny is a good massage therapist and a pretty good guitar player with whom I made music from time to time.
I was surprised the first time I went to Berger and he was there because I had only known him as a musician since he played in a couple of bands with some friends of mine. I do miss him though since he always did the deep massage and the women there now are always afraid they're gonna hurt me, well that or they just don't have the strength in their hands he does. Last time I ran into Dan he said he wasn't playing out anymore and was working on originals and recording them at home.
That was my understanding as well. He was my Facebook friend some time ago but seems to have disappeared from there.
That's strange. Wonder if he moved to Tn where his mother is. I never thought about looking him up on FB but I guess there's no point now.
I've decided I'm agin' it. On wildlife/nature concerns and the improbability/impossibility of addressing the very real environmental issues.
Not that any of that will matter to those who stand to make money from the reservoir.
Quote from: Y on April 25, 2013, 07:21:43 PM
I've decided I'm agin' it. On wildlife/nature concerns and the improbability/impossibility of addressing the very real environmental issues.
Not that any of that will matter to those who stand to make money from the reservoir.
Yep, they're pretty much gonna do what they're gonna do and worry about the consequences later as usual. I can't really say that fighting it is useless though 'cause Helen Wean did one hell of a job of rallying the forces to fight that landfill.
The owner of the mall and the owners of all that future lake bottom property all stand to make too much money over this deal. Then there are the "chain" stores that will trample each other to get into the new mall along I69.
A lil garbage and some bats aren't going to matter with all that going on and the state needing additional fesh water reserves for central Indiana. They'll just grab some superfund money from the Feds and figure the bats will go to Delaware county.
Then there's the increases to the revenue stream for Andertard. Umm, I don't think anything short of a living T Rex is going to stop the flooding of the Mounds.
Chesterfield says yes!
It sounds to me like ONE way of revitalizing Anderson.....and Chesterfield. I haven't really followed much of this except on here.
Is it a good thing or a bad thing PH?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 07, 2013, 12:49:11 PM
It sounds to me like ONE way of revitalizing Anderson.....and Chesterfield. I haven't really followed much of this except on here.
Is it a good thing or a bad thing PH?
IMHO it is (long term) a good thing. . .
It will force reorganization of the city's business zones, and potentially create high value real estate with waterfront property alongside a much larger body of water.
It will create a water reserve that HOPEFULLY will allow the city to reduce the price we pay for water. (NOT likely).
It will provide recreational opportunities beyond fishing for carp and kayaking / canoeing down the shallow White River.
It will provide habitat for waterfowl that will place them within a "safe zone" surrounding hunting.
It will make good use of what is now marginally useful commercial property and force those businesses to relocate to an area that makes them more competitive with regionally located retailers. (I-69 between exit 222 and the Pendleton exit).
It will marginalize or altogether eliminate the risks associated with the levee that is dilapidated and at risk of failure.
It will also create about 5-10 years of bitching and moaning from the local residents as the ongoing construction takes place. . . :biggrin:
Okay, you sold me! I think Anderson MUST do something...those all seem like valid reasons.
Quote from: Palehorse on May 07, 2013, 12:58:26 PM
It will create a water reserve that HOPEFULLY will allow the city to reduce the price we pay for water. (NOT likely).
Not likely indeed. You really don't pay that much for water; it's the sewer bills that are killer.
Quote from: Exterminator on May 07, 2013, 01:40:57 PM
Not likely indeed. You really don't pay that much for water; it's the sewer bills that are killer.
You've got that right. I think we have one of the lowest water rates in the state.
Quote from: me on May 07, 2013, 03:53:42 PM
You've got that right. I think we have one of the lowest water rates in the state.
Sewer bills weren't bad either until the fish kill.
Quote from: Exterminator on May 07, 2013, 04:08:49 PM
Sewer bills weren't bad either until the fish kill.
Sewer is almost triple the water bill now and then there's the trash fee and that wonderful $3.50 charge that was supposed to be to upgrade the sewer system the Lawler started. Minimum bill for lights and water is now around $100 pr month.
Quote from: Exterminator on May 07, 2013, 01:40:57 PM
Not likely indeed. You really don't pay that much for water; it's the sewer bills that are killer.
Yes. Those charges, when added to the per gallon cost of water each month, make the amount we pay for water among the highest in the Midwest . (If not the highest)
The reason I look at it that way is that is the way they charge us. You get charged sewer fees for every gallon of water you use; whether it goes onto your grass, into your pool, or into the sewers. It all costs the same.
Our neighbors have an in-ground pool and whenever they need to add water to it they call the water company and get a credit on their bill. We use well water for our lawn, we didn't close our well when we hooked up to city water.
Quote from: Palehorse on May 07, 2013, 09:57:58 PM
Yes. Those charges, when added to the per gallon cost of water each month, make the amount we pay for water among the highest in the Midwest . (If not the highest)
The reason I look at it that way is that is the way they charge us. You get charged sewer fees for every gallon of water you use; whether it goes onto your grass, into your pool, or into the sewers. It all costs the same.
They do adjust for pools and lawn watering. Also if you have a leak and the water didn't go into the sewer they will adjust the sewage bill as long as you take them proof the leak has been fixed.
Quote from: me on May 07, 2013, 10:36:48 PM
They do adjust for pools and lawn watering. Also if you have a leak and the water didn't go into the sewer they will adjust the sewage bill as long as you take them proof the leak has been fixed.
Yeah. You try it out and let me know how it works out for you. There's a reason I let my grass burn up in last years drought.
Quote from: Palehorse on May 07, 2013, 10:54:26 PM
Yeah. You try it out and let me know how it works out for you. There's a reason I let my grass burn up in last years drought.
I've done it before but you have to go up there. If your water bill is higher than normal during a dry period and you don't have a leak they do it on the average bill and if you have a leak and tell them what it was and they're satisfied it didn't go into the sewer and you show them where you paid to get it fixed and the consumption goes back to normal they adjust the sewage on the next bill. They don't adjust the water though because it was actual usage.
Quote from: Palehorse on May 07, 2013, 10:54:26 PM
Yeah. You try it out and let me know how it works out for you. There's a reason I let my grass burn up in last years drought.
I have actually taken a plumbing bill proving I had a pipe burst into the Anderson utilities office and gotten my bill adjusted.
Quote from: Exterminator on May 08, 2013, 09:47:38 AM
I have actually taken a plumbing bill proving I had a pipe burst into the Anderson utilities office and gotten my bill adjusted.
Oh I am sure it would work in the case of leaks and pool filling.
But I've tried to get credits for watering my lawn to no avail. Several times. So I don't do it.
Quote from: Palehorse on May 08, 2013, 12:06:24 PM
Oh I am sure it would work in the case of leaks and pool filling.
But I've tried to get credits for watering my lawn to no avail. Several times. So I don't do it.
I was thinking back and you're right about the lawn thing. They used to adjust the bill but last time I tried, which was 3 or 4yrs ago, they said they automatically adjusted the bills for that. Somehow I don't think they ever really did though.
Was talking to some folks yesterday who have got the idea in their head that this is another "Farm" project that is seeking to dig into the local taxpayers pockets.
1. What pockets? Anybody looked around this town and seen the empty homes, the citizens scraping by on 10 dollar an hour jobs while having to pay 30% of their weekly wages for healthcare insurance for which they receive nothing?
2. It isn't the city of Anderson or Madison county that is hawking this project; but rather the state of Indiana and the city of Indianapolis specifically. Because that is where the water shortage is. They need a reservoir and the citizens of madison county do not. (yet).
3. The local water utility will be footing the bill, in part, and the balance will come from the state and feds.
Then they started yapping about there being no recreational use allowed because it will be a drinking water resource.
Really?
1. Take a look at lake Michigan lately? It serves as the drinking source for the city of Chicago and most of it's suburbs. And they ski, fish choke, puke, and piss in it all day long, all year long.
2. Geist? Morse? Eagle Creek? Boats galore, fishing, skiing, peeing. All drinking water resources.
Wow. The people of Madison county have got their heads so far up GM's ass, that they will drown in their own bullshit. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
It needs to be flooded! :yes: