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Title: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: Bo D on December 07, 2011, 01:30:29 PM
OH NO!!!!!!! I've just discovered that I'm a conservative Republican! KILL ME! NOW!!!!!!!

Most of my favorite shows are on the wrong side of this list.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/research-firm-breaks-down-politics-of-tv-this-old-house-vs-the-daily-show/2011/12/06/gIQAQPSkaO_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/research-firm-breaks-down-politics-of-tv-this-old-house-vs-the-daily-show/2011/12/06/gIQAQPSkaO_story.html)

TOP LIBERAL DEMOCRAT SHOWS


1. The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)
2. The Colbert Report (Comedy Central)
3. Masterpiece (PBS)
4. 30 Rock (NBC)
5. Parks and Recreation (NBC)
6. The View (ABC)
7. Glee (Fox)
8. Modern Family (ABC)
9. It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia (FX)
10. Treme (HBO)
11. Cougar Town (ABC)
12. The Late Show with David Letterman (CBS)
13. The Soup (E!)
14. The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson (CBS)
15. Aqua Teen Hunger Force (Adult Swim)
16. Outsourced (NBC)
17. Raising Hope (Fox)
18. Saturday Night Live (NBC)
19. The Office (NBC)
20. American Masters (PBS)
21. Project Runway (Lifetime)
22. United States of Tara (Showtime)
23. Shameless (Showtime)
24. Parenthood (NBC)
25. Conan (TBS)

TOP CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN SHOWS

1. Barrett-Jackson Collector Car Auction(Speed)
2. This Old House (PBS)
3. The 700 Club (syndicated)
4. Swamp Loggers (Discovery)
5. Top Shot (History)
6. The Bachelor (ABC)
7. Castle (ABC)
8. New Yankee Workshop (PBS)
9. Mythbusters (Discovery)
10. Only in America w/ Larry the Cable Guy (History)
11. American Pickers (History)
12. Swamp People (History)
13. Wheel of Fortune (syndicated)
14. Top Gear (BBC America)
15. The Middle (ABC)
16. Pawn Stars (History)
17. The Tonight Show (NBC)
18. Antiques Roadshow (PBS)
19. The Biggest Loser (NBC)
20. Hawaii Five-O (CBS)
21. Dancing With the Stars, results show (ABC)
22. Man vs. Wild (Discovery)
23. Auction Kings (Discovery)
24. NCIS (CBS)
25. The Mentalist (CBS)

Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: Henry Hawk on December 07, 2011, 01:40:44 PM
I must be an independent then....I like a few ( and I mean a few) from both groups....


TOP LIBERAL DEMOCRAT SHOWS


1. The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)
2. The Colbert Report (Comedy Central)
3. Masterpiece (PBS)
4. 30 Rock (NBC)
5. Parks and Recreation (NBC)

6. The View (ABC)
7. Glee (Fox)
8. Modern Family (ABC)
9. It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia (FX)
10. Treme (HBO)
11. Cougar Town (ABC)
12. The Late Show with David Letterman (CBS)
13. The Soup (E!)
14. The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson (CBS)
15. Aqua Teen Hunger Force (Adult Swim)
16. Outsourced (NBC)
17. Raising Hope (Fox
)
18. Saturday Night Live (NBC)
19. The Office (NBC)
20. American Masters (PBS)
21. Project Runway (Lifetime)
22. United States of Tara (Showtime)
23. Shameless (Showtime)
24. Parenthood (NBC)
25. Conan (TBS)

TOP CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN SHOWS

1. Barrett-Jackson Collector Car Auction(Speed)
2. This Old House (PBS)
3. The 700 Club (syndicated)
4. Swamp Loggers (Discovery)
5. Top Shot (History)
6. The Bachelor (ABC)
7. Castle (ABC)
8. New Yankee Workshop (PBS)
9. Mythbusters (Discovery)
10. Only in America w/ Larry the Cable Guy (History)
11. American Pickers (History)
12. Swamp People (History)
13. Wheel of Fortune (syndicated)
14. Top Gear (BBC America)
15. The Middle (ABC)
16. Pawn Stars (History)
17. The Tonight Show (NBC)
18. Antiques Roadshow (PBS)
19. The Biggest Loser (NBC)
20. Hawaii Five-O (CBS)
21. Dancing With the Stars, results show (ABC)

22. Man vs. Wild (Discovery)
23. Auction Kings (Discovery)
24. NCIS (CBS)
25. The Mentalist (CBS)


Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: Bo D on December 07, 2011, 02:27:23 PM
The one that did it for me was New Yankee Workshop. One of my all time favorites.

And where is Dirty Jobs? I like that show too.
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: Anne on December 07, 2011, 03:13:17 PM
There are two on each list I like to watch, (Modern Family, Project Runway, The Middle and NCIS). I guess that puts me "in the middle".  :)
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: Bo D on December 07, 2011, 03:24:34 PM
Quote from: Anne on December 07, 2011, 03:13:17 PM
There are two on each list I like to watch, (Modern Family, Project Runway, The Middle and NCIS). I guess that puts me "in the middle".  :)

Ok, I admit it. I watch Project Runway too.

Bring it on, guys. I can handle it. I am confident enough in my manhood to admit that I watch that show.





(but also because my wife likes it and I don't really have a choice.)  :smile:
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: Henry Hawk on December 07, 2011, 03:27:32 PM
Quote from: Olias on December 07, 2011, 03:24:34 PM

(but also because my wife likes it and I don't really have a choice.)  :smile:

Now it all makes sense!!  ;D
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: Bo D on December 07, 2011, 03:51:46 PM
Yeah. Come on guys. Admit it. I'll bet you guys sit down and watch Dancing with the Stars with your honey.

I'm so glad my wife hates that show.
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: Palehorse on December 07, 2011, 08:54:46 PM
What can I say. . . I don't watch traditional programming much, and very little network programming.

I dvr the one's that aren't struck through on the lists below.

So where's SOA?  :eek:


TOP LIBERAL DEMOCRAT SHOWS


1. The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)
2. The Colbert Report (Comedy Central)
3. Masterpiece (PBS)
4. 30 Rock (NBC)
5. Parks and Recreation (NBC)
6. The View (ABC)
7. Glee (Fox)
8. Modern Family (ABC)
9. It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia (FX)
10. Treme (HBO)
11. Cougar Town (ABC)
12. The Late Show with David Letterman (CBS)
13. The Soup (E!)
14. The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson (CBS)
15. Aqua Teen Hunger Force (Adult Swim)
16. Outsourced (NBC)
17. Raising Hope (Fox)
18. Saturday Night Live (NBC)
19. The Office (NBC)
20. American Masters (PBS)
21. Project Runway (Lifetime)
22. United States of Tara (Showtime)
23. Shameless (Showtime)
24. Parenthood (NBC)
25. Conan (TBS)

TOP CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN SHOWS

1. Barrett-Jackson Collector Car Auction(Speed)
2. This Old House (PBS)
3. The 700 Club (syndicated)
4. Swamp Loggers (Discovery)
5. Top Shot (History)
6. The Bachelor (ABC)
7. Castle (ABC)
8. New Yankee Workshop (PBS)
9. Mythbusters (Discovery)
10. Only in America w/ Larry the Cable Guy (History)
11. American Pickers (History)
12. Swamp People (History)
13. Wheel of Fortune (syndicated)
14. Top Gear (BBC America)
15. The Middle (ABC)
16. Pawn Stars (History)
17. The Tonight Show (NBC)
18. Antiques Roadshow (PBS)
19. The Biggest Loser (NBC)
20. Hawaii Five-O (CBS)
21. Dancing With the Stars, results show (ABC)
22. Man vs. Wild (Discovery)
23. Auction Kings (Discovery)
24. NCIS (CBS)
25. The Mentalist (CBS)
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: Palehorse on December 07, 2011, 08:56:07 PM
Quote from: Olias on December 07, 2011, 03:51:46 PM
Yeah. Come on guys. Admit it. I'll bet you guys sit down and watch Dancing with the Stars with your honey.

I'm so glad my wife hates that show.

Nope! With 5 tv's (and 3 of them big screens), that bullshit gets turned on, I go elsewhere!  :biggrin: :yes:
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: me on December 08, 2011, 03:35:15 AM
Out of that whole mess the only one we watch is Pawn Stars and only watch that occasionally.  We usually are watching a music video, a movie, or don't even have the TV on.
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: The Troll on December 08, 2011, 08:54:23 AM
Quote from: me on December 08, 2011, 03:35:15 AM
Out of that whole mess the only one we watch is Pawn Stars and only watch that occasionally.  We usually are watching a music video, a movie, or don't even have the TV on.

  Now I see what your problem is.  But you're getting your misinformation from some where.  Where?

  But, I like more shows from the Republican side than the Democratic side.  But, I know why "ME" likes the Pawn Stars is because the stupid come in to a pawn shop with valuable things and the the Stars cheat them out of it for nothing.

  I got to say one thing about the show is, they buy at the lowest price and sell it at the highest price.   If I had something of value I sure wouldn't take it to a pawn shop.  :no:  You're looking for a screwing.   :yes: :yes:
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: me on December 08, 2011, 10:26:08 AM
Quote from: The Troll on December 08, 2011, 08:54:23 AM
  Now I see what your problem is.  But you're getting your misinformation from some where.  Where?

  But, I like more shows from the Republican side than the Democratic side.  But, I know why "ME" likes the Pawn Stars is because the stupid come in to a pawn shop with valuable things and the the Stars cheat them out of it for nothing.

  I got to say one thing about the show is, they buy at the lowest price and sell it at the highest price.   If I had something of value I sure wouldn't take it to a pawn shop.  :no:  You're looking for a screwing.   :yes: :yes:
They aren't in the business for their health ya know.  If you owned a pawn shop would you give people exactly what you could resell it for?  Hell no you wouldn't 'cause you'd want to make a profit so you could pay yourself and your overhead like help, utilities, and rent or building payment.  Now since you're a union man you'd have to pay your employees union wages which means you'd have to give the people less than 1/3rd value for whatever they pawned. You'd really be a rip off joint.  :razz:
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: Exterminator on December 08, 2011, 09:04:23 PM
Quote from: me on December 08, 2011, 10:26:08 AM
They aren't in the business for their health ya know.  If you owned a pawn shop would you give people exactly what you could resell it for?

He's actually correct.  I co-owned a gold and silver shop in the 80's and we preyed on people's ignorance.
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: The Troll on December 08, 2011, 10:49:35 PM
Quote from: me on December 08, 2011, 10:26:08 AM
They aren't in the business for their health ya know.  If you owned a pawn shop would you give people exactly what you could resell it for?  Hell no you wouldn't 'cause you'd want to make a profit so you could pay yourself and your overhead like help, utilities, and rent or building payment.  Now since you're a union man you'd have to pay your employees union wages which means you'd have to give the people less than 1/3rd value for whatever they pawned. You'd really be a rip off joint.  :razz:

  Tell me something Sweety Pie.  If you had a Picasso painting, something actually owned by George Washington. a Colt Peace Maker owned by Lincoln would you take it the the Pawn Stars shop and sell it to them and take what they offered you. :doh:

  Well, you probably would because their in the business to make money and you're stupid enough to do it.  "ME" you don't make sense in anything you say.  Is it that you are just plain stupid or brain damaged.   :rolleyes: :razz:
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: me on December 09, 2011, 02:50:25 AM
If there were no demand for that type of business there wouldn't be any.  Yes, they may be taking advantage of people but they are also giving the people a service who don't have the connections to sell their items for what they're worth.  Hell, you get the same thing in a music store or anyplace else that deals in used merchandise not just pawn shops although they may be a little worse since that is their business.  You two sure seem to have a problem with people making money don't ya?  Well, anyone but yourselves that is.
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: The Troll on December 09, 2011, 08:13:56 AM
Quote from: me on December 09, 2011, 02:50:25 AM
If there were no demand for that type of business there wouldn't be any.  Yes, they may be taking advantage of people but they are also giving the people a service who don't have the connections to sell their items for what they're worth.  Hell, you get the same thing in a music store or anyplace else that deals in used merchandise not just pawn shops although they may be a little worse since that is their business.  You two sure seem to have a problem with people making money don't ya?  Well, anyone but yourselves that is.

  No problem of people making money.  But, sure have a problem with people ripping off other people to make a buck.

  Pawn shops, like pay day loans, car title loan companies with their 50% or higher interest loans are immoral.  That probably why you like them.  We're going to have to get you a job of buying blood from homeless people and giving them $10 for a pint of blood.  We then could call  you a business woman instead of vampire. :bat: :jester:
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: me on December 09, 2011, 02:36:18 PM
Didn't say I liked them just saying if there weren't a demand they wouldn't exist is all.  They are giving people a service and you shouldn't expect them to do it free or for less than minimum wage by the time you figure their time and expenses.  They have to keep a certain amount of cash on hand to be able to purchase, pay help, either rent or mortgage on their building, utilities, bookkeeper, insurance, and other misc, before they get anything so it isn't all profit. If you have more people selling than buying that is not a good thing ya know.  You have to look at both sides of the business not just one.
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: The Troll on December 09, 2011, 02:57:32 PM
Quote from: me on December 09, 2011, 02:36:18 PM
Didn't say I liked them just saying if there weren't a demand they wouldn't exist is all.  They are giving people a service and you shouldn't expect them to do it free or for less than minimum wage by the time you figure their time and expenses.  They have to keep a certain amount of cash on hand to be able to purchase, pay help, either rent or mortgage on their building, utilities, bookkeeper, insurance, and other misc, before they get anything so it isn't all profit. If you have more people selling than buying that is not a good thing ya know.  You have to look at both sides of the business not just one.

  Hey Lady, I owned my own private business for over 40 years.  I was a plumber and I could have ripped all of my customers, but I didn't and I am proud of it.  I charge for my labor and material.  Just plan and simple.

.  Since you were around plumbing you know that most people don't know one damn thing about plumbing and the quality or fixtures or installations, it would be very easy to rip off all of the people.  If I wouldn't have fixtures or material in my house I sure wouldn't sell them to my customers.  No unhappy customers, no law suits and happy.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: Henry Hawk on December 09, 2011, 03:08:37 PM
I think the words of Reagan apply to business........."Trust by verify".  I think as consumers, you have got to beware of what you buy.    I was raised with the addage, 'you get what you pay for'....and I fully believe that.  There have been times where I compromised and settled for the cheaper way out, and I usually regretted it.
People needs to be accountable for there own actions....and quit blaming others if they get ripped off.  If they do, then they need to deal with it, directly with the party who ripped them off...I agree that Pawn shops, pay day loans, car title loan companies with their 50% or higher interest loans may not be moral, but they have a right to do what they do, and if there was not a market, they would not be in business....and the last thing we need is MORE LAWS....we have enough that we don't enforce as it is.
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: The Troll on December 10, 2011, 12:06:32 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 09, 2011, 03:08:37 PM
I think the words of Reagan apply to business........."Trust by verify".  I think as consumers, you have got to beware of what you buy.    I was raised with the addage, 'you get what you pay for'....and I fully believe that.  There have been times where I compromised and settled for the cheaper way out, and I usually regretted it.
People needs to be accountable for there own actions....and quit blaming others if they get ripped off.  If they do, then they need to deal with it, directly with the party who ripped them off...I agree that Pawn shops, pay day loans, car title loan companies with their 50% or higher interest loans may not be moral, but they have a right to do what they do, and if there was not a market, they would not be in business....and the last thing we need is MORE LAWS....we have enough that we don't enforce as it is.

  Yeah Henery, a true Conservative.  Let the crooked immoral bastards get by with it.  Just because it's legal now doesn't mean that it should continue.  Just like you want to deregulate the banks and the stock market so the crooked bastards can put us in a depression again.  It happened under Hoover and George W. created another.

  Yes sir, the need some more good Republicans like Reagan, Nixon, Ford, Bush 1 and George W who set the depression up.  But that's alright.  You will get to vote for good old Newt Gingrich to screw us again.  :groan:  You sure don't know your history and you really don't know how bad the Republican Party is for the middle class.  :groan:
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: me on December 10, 2011, 12:31:38 AM
Quote from: The Troll on December 09, 2011, 02:57:32 PM
  Hey Lady, I owned my own private business for over 40 years.  I was a plumber and I could have ripped all of my customers, but I didn't and I am proud of it.  I charge for my labor and material.  Just plan and simple.

.  Since you were around plumbing you know that most people don't know one damn thing about plumbing and the quality or fixtures or installations, it would be very easy to rip off all of the people.  If I wouldn't have fixtures or material in my house I sure wouldn't sell them to my customers.  No unhappy customers, no law suits and happy.  :biggrin:
That is a totally different thing Troll.  Yes, you had to have a certain amount of capitol to work with but you also had to charge to replace it and most of your business was labor not buying things and having to sell them at a higher cost to replace or enlarge your capitol.  In a lot of instances your charge was entirely labor with no parts involved so it was free and clear.  There is no free and clear money in the pawn shop business unless something is just given to them and they have absolutely no cost involved which rarely if ever happens.
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: damfast on December 10, 2011, 09:43:14 AM
Lets open a pawn shop.   We can sell stuff.  I get to be the greeter tho.
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: The Troll on December 10, 2011, 12:16:24 PM
Quote from: damfast on December 10, 2011, 09:43:14 AM
Lets open a pawn shop.   We can sell stuff.  I get to be the greeter tho.

  Honey :bee: you could be my greeter.  We'll get a pawn and con, stiff, steal, trick everybody that comes in and we will get rich together.  Why?  Because you don't have to have a conscience or morals to be a pawn shop owner.   :yes: :biggrin: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: damfast on December 11, 2011, 03:03:06 PM
OHH COOL!   i always wanted to be a consciousless, immoral, greedy individual.   i am already rich. lmao
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: me on December 11, 2011, 08:11:11 PM
Quote from: damfast on December 11, 2011, 03:03:06 PM
OHH COOL!   i always wanted to be a consciousless, immoral, greedy individual.   i am already rich. lmao
Oh no, don't tell me you're actually part of the 1%'ers.   :eek:
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: damfast on December 12, 2011, 09:08:33 AM
Quote from: me on December 11, 2011, 08:11:11 PM
Oh no, don't tell me you're actually part of the 1%'ers.   :eek:

lol! my richness comes from stuff so much more valuable than money!!
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: me on December 12, 2011, 01:41:49 PM
Quote from: damfast on December 12, 2011, 09:08:33 AM
lol! my richness comes from stuff so much more valuable than money!!
Oh, thank goodness had me worried there for a minute.  You meant the kind of richness that really means something and that money can't replace.   :hug:
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: The Troll on December 12, 2011, 07:35:49 PM
Quote from: me on December 09, 2011, 02:50:25 AM
If there were no demand for that type of business there wouldn't be any.  Yes, they may be taking advantage of people but they are also giving the people a service who don't have the connections to sell their items for what they're worth.  Hell, you get the same thing in a music store or anyplace else that deals in used merchandise not just pawn shops although they may be a little worse since that is their business.  You two sure seem to have a problem with people making money don't ya?  Well, anyone but yourselves that is.


  What did the people do before these business came along?  Tell me "ME".  I think there should be business that do this service, but they should be closely monitored and regulated. 
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: me on December 13, 2011, 03:06:26 AM
Quote from: The Troll on December 12, 2011, 07:35:49 PM

  What did the people do before these business came along?  Tell me "ME".  I think there should be business that do this service, but they should be closely monitored and regulated.
Sold their stuff to other people for probably even less money and without the option for getting it back.  What don't you understand about it's a business and the owners aren't in it for a hobby?  You are always looking at only one side of the picture.  You come across like you think everything they make over what they payed for the merchandise is pure profit and it isn't.  They also don't sell everything they buy immediately and sometimes they have to take a loss because they make a bad buy and can't sell the merchandise at all. 
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: damfast on December 13, 2011, 07:08:02 AM
Quote from: me on December 12, 2011, 01:41:49 PM
Oh, thank goodness had me worried there for a minute.  You meant the kind of richness that really means something and that money can't replace.   :hug:

darn tootin. i dont use money as a personal goal anymore.  it is just a tool...
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: The Troll on December 13, 2011, 02:56:58 PM
Quote from: me on December 13, 2011, 03:06:26 AM
Sold their stuff to other people for probably even less money and without the option for getting it back.  What don't you understand about it's a business and the owners aren't in it for a hobby?  You are always looking at only one side of the picture.  You come across like you think everything they make over what they payed for the merchandise is pure profit and it isn't.  They also don't sell everything they buy immediately and sometimes they have to take a loss because they make a bad buy and can't sell the merchandise at all.

  I understand business, that 50% to 80% is a ripoff for loaning money.  How much over head does it take to be able to charge that much and have a clear conscience.  But like you, someone has to do it. :rant:
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: me on December 14, 2011, 01:00:12 AM
Quote from: The Troll on December 13, 2011, 02:56:58 PM
  I understand business, that 50% to 80% is a ripoff for loaning money.  How much over head does it take to be able to charge that much and have a clear conscience.  But like you, someone has to do it. :rant:
That mark up is if they sell the item not the interest charged if the person reclaims it that's more like 5% to 10% over what they gave you if you reclaim it in a certain amount of time.  The mark up only applies if you sell the item to them or don't reclaim it in the period allotted if you pawn it.  If you pawn an item and they give you $50 for it and you leave it 2 months it takes $60 to get it back but if you don't come back for it they will sell it for anywhere from $125 to $200.  They start out at the higher dollar amount and reduce it each month they can't sell it. We used to get a lot of stuff from pawn shops 'cause you can get some pretty good deals if you watch but it's usually after they've had the item for a while.  Got ripped of a couple of times too 'cause I hadn't checked around and paid new price for a used item.  Now that irritated me and I didn't go back in there for a looooong time 'cause they wouldn't make it right. 
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: The Troll on December 14, 2011, 10:38:48 AM
Quote from: me on December 14, 2011, 01:00:12 AM
That mark up is if they sell the item not the interest charged if the person reclaims it that's more like 5% to 10% over what they gave you if you reclaim it in a certain amount of time.  The mark up only applies if you sell the item to them or don't reclaim it in the period allotted if you pawn it.  If you pawn an item and they give you $50 for it and you leave it 2 months it takes $60 to get it back but if you don't come back for it they will sell it for anywhere from $125 to $200.  They start out at the higher dollar amount and reduce it each month they can't sell it. We used to get a lot of stuff from pawn shops 'cause you can get some pretty good deals if you watch but it's usually after they've had the item for a while.  Got ripped of a couple of times too 'cause I hadn't checked around and paid new price for a used item.  Now that irritated me and I didn't go back in there for a looooong time 'cause they wouldn't make it right.

  What is it that people say, if you're slow or you snooze, you lose.  :wink: :smile:
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: me on December 14, 2011, 01:57:56 PM
Quote from: The Troll on December 14, 2011, 10:38:48 AM
 

  What is it that people say, if you're slow or you snooze, you lose.  :wink: :smile:
Exactly and I did and I did so that was my fault.  Ain't gonna happen again though.  :wink:
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: Y on December 14, 2011, 02:15:44 PM
Quote from: me on December 14, 2011, 01:00:12 AM
That mark up is if they sell the item not the interest charged if the person reclaims it that's more like 5% to 10% over what they gave you if you reclaim it in a certain amount of time.  The mark up only applies if you sell the item to them or don't reclaim it in the period allotted if you pawn it.  If you pawn an item and they give you $50 for it and you leave it 2 months it takes $60 to get it back but if you don't come back for it they will sell it for anywhere from $125 to $200.  They start out at the higher dollar amount and reduce it each month they can't sell it. We used to get a lot of stuff from pawn shops 'cause you can get some pretty good deals if you watch but it's usually after they've had the item for a while.  Got ripped of a couple of times too 'cause I hadn't checked around and paid new price for a used item.  Now that irritated me and I didn't go back in there for a looooong time 'cause they wouldn't make it right.

It's not quite like that, there is a fee plus interest.  If you don't redeem it within the allotted time period, you can renew it at least once, then the pawn shop owns it.

Now how they sell those articles is a little different too.  Most  pawn shops operate on the 'pawn shop principle' - that's how it was named  :biggrin: - which is that someone will pay any exhorbitant price for something sooner or later.  They make such a killing doing that, they don't need to sell much to make a ridiculously fat profit and also why you don't see their inventory turn over that much.  They also use auction sites and like to have a network of shops where they can send merchandise from one town to another or from state to state - EZ Pawn for example.  It allows them to acquire not quite legitimate merchandise and move it out of an area/state where it might be to warm to dispose of over the counter.  ; )

One of the local pawn shops - and prolly the one you're referring to  :biggrin: - used to not like me very well when I had my business(es) open because I advertised I bought pawn tickets for merchandise I was interested in.  It cut down on that pawn shop's ability to acquire primo merchandise and they didn't like it.   :biggrin:
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: Y on December 14, 2011, 02:40:18 PM
Quote from: Olias on December 07, 2011, 01:30:29 PM
OH NO!!!!!!! I've just discovered that I'm a conservative Republican! KILL ME! NOW!!!!!!!

Most of my favorite shows are on the wrong side of this list.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/research-firm-breaks-down-politics-of-tv-this-old-house-vs-the-daily-show/2011/12/06/gIQAQPSkaO_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/research-firm-breaks-down-politics-of-tv-this-old-house-vs-the-daily-show/2011/12/06/gIQAQPSkaO_story.html)

TOP LIBERAL DEMOCRAT SHOWS


1. The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)
2. The Colbert Report (Comedy Central)
3. Masterpiece (PBS)
4. 30 Rock (NBC)
5. Parks and Recreation (NBC)
6. The View (ABC)
7. Glee (Fox)
8. Modern Family (ABC)
9. It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia (FX)
10. Treme (HBO)
11. Cougar Town (ABC)
12. The Late Show with David Letterman (CBS)
13. The Soup (E!)
14. The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson (CBS)
15. Aqua Teen Hunger Force (Adult Swim)
16. Outsourced (NBC)
17. Raising Hope (Fox)
18. Saturday Night Live (NBC)
19. The Office (NBC)
20. American Masters (PBS)
21. Project Runway (Lifetime)
22. United States of Tara (Showtime)
23. Shameless (Showtime)
24. Parenthood (NBC)
25. Conan (TBS)

TOP CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN SHOWS

1. Barrett-Jackson Collector Car Auction(Speed)
2. This Old House (PBS)
3. The 700 Club (syndicated)
4. Swamp Loggers (Discovery)
5. Top Shot (History)
6. The Bachelor (ABC)
7. Castle (ABC)
8. New Yankee Workshop (PBS)
9. Mythbusters (Discovery)
10. Only in America w/ Larry the Cable Guy (History)
11. American Pickers (History)
12. Swamp People (History)
13. Wheel of Fortune (syndicated)
14. Top Gear (BBC America)
15. The Middle (ABC)
16. Pawn Stars (History)
17. The Tonight Show (NBC)
18. Antiques Roadshow (PBS)
19. The Biggest Loser (NBC)
20. Hawaii Five-O (CBS)
21. Dancing With the Stars, results show (ABC)
22. Man vs. Wild (Discovery)
23. Auction Kings (Discovery)
24. NCIS (CBS)
25. The Mentalist (CBS)

'Demo' shows - Me: 3, 14, & 20    My wife: 3, 8, 20, & 24

'Repub' shows - Me: 7, 24, & 25    My wife: 7, 15, sometimes 21, & 25 - but she's starting to lose interest there

Now what all that really indicates about our politics, IMHO, is not much if anything.

We no longer watch anything that's not an 'on air' channel because we became tired of paying for tons of crap we had no intention of watching so we dumped pay TV, put up a mast, a high end antenna, a rotor, and a booster all totaling less than $300 and receive an amazing amount of channels - with shows we actually watch - for no charge.  ; )
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: me on December 14, 2011, 03:57:36 PM
Quote from: Y on December 14, 2011, 02:15:44 PM
It's not quite like that, there is a fee plus interest.  If you don't redeem it within the allotted time period, you can renew it at least once, then the pawn shop owns it.

Now how they sell those articles is a little different too.  Most  pawn shops operate on the 'pawn shop principle' - that's how it was named  :biggrin: - which is that someone will pay any exhorbitant price for something sooner or later.  They make such a killing doing that, they don't need to sell much to make a ridiculously fat profit and also why you don't see their inventory turn over that much.  They also use auction sites and like to have a network of shops where they can send merchandise from one town to another or from state to state - EZ Pawn for example.  It allows them to acquire not quite legitimate merchandise and move it out of an area/state where it might be to warm to dispose of over the counter.  ; )

One of the local pawn shops - and prolly the one you're referring to  :biggrin: - used to not like me very well when I had my business(es) open because I advertised I bought pawn tickets for merchandise I was interested in.  It cut down on that pawn shop's ability to acquire primo merchandise and they didn't like it.   :biggrin:
But they are still a business which needs to operate at a profit much like you did and if there wasn't a demand for that type of thing it wouldn't exist.  Why fault someone for trying to earn a living?  Don't know what kind of business you had so don't know how pawn tickets would have come into play but in Troll's way of thinking that would have made you part of the "rip off" scheme getting rich off of other peoples misfortune.
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: Y on December 14, 2011, 04:13:38 PM
Quote from: me on December 14, 2011, 03:57:36 PM
But they are still a business which needs to operate at a profit much like you did and if there wasn't a demand for that type of thing it wouldn't exist.  Why fault someone for trying to earn a living?  Don't know what kind of business you had so don't know how pawn tickets would have come into play but in Troll's way of thinking that would have made you part of the "rip off" scheme getting rich off of other peoples misfortune.

Business doesn't have to rape, pillage, and plunder in order to exist.

Maybe Troll might not see me in that light since I usually paid a small premium to the holder for the pawn ticket and then I also had to pay the redemption fees and interest on the ticket to the pawn shop in order to redeem the merchandise.
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: me on December 15, 2011, 03:43:16 AM
Quote from: Y on December 14, 2011, 04:13:38 PM
Business doesn't have to rape, pillage, and plunder in order to exist.

Maybe Troll might not see me in that light since I usually paid a small premium to the holder for the pawn ticket and then I also had to pay the redemption fees and interest on the ticket to the pawn shop in order to redeem the merchandise.
I do have a question though.  Don't you have to have an ID to show that you are the one who pawned the merchandise and didn't just happen to find the ticket? 

But they still have overhead and cost involved in the business so it isn't all profit and you were turning around and selling the item for probably as much as the pawn shop would have not having paid much more than the pawn shop did in the first place.  Yes, the pawn shop made less on their initial investment but you are the one who ultimately made the larger profit from the item of the person who pawned it.  You did almost the same thing to the pawn shop owner that he did to the person who pawned the merchandise to begin with, took advantage of a situation for a profit.
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: damfast on December 15, 2011, 08:35:26 AM
i thought we were watchin tv....sadly i dont watch any of those shows....i am an empty slate, a new frontier, clueless, (oh dont start), a clear sky, yeah, ok clueless. 
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: The Troll on December 15, 2011, 10:10:39 AM
Quote from: damfast on December 15, 2011, 08:35:26 AM
i thought we were watchin tv....sadly i dont watch any of those shows....i am an empty slate, a new frontier, clueless, (oh dont start), a clear sky, yeah, ok clueless.

  What I'd like to know is who came of with this dumbass "TV Shows and your your politics" poll.  :doh:  It must be a joke, cause it's dumb.  :doh:
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: Henry Hawk on December 15, 2011, 10:14:01 AM
Quote from: The Troll on December 15, 2011, 10:10:39 AM
  What I'd like to know is who came of with this dumbass "TV Shows and your your politics" poll.  :doh:  It must be a joke, cause it's dumb.  :doh:

WOW, you know something Troll, ever blue moon, you and I can find SOMETHING that we can agree on........and THIS one, we can agree on!!

WAHOOO!...  :yes:
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: damfast on December 16, 2011, 08:51:41 AM
we should start our own list.  books

troll you do the music.

Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
Post by: The Troll on December 16, 2011, 11:13:17 PM
Quote from: damfast on December 16, 2011, 08:51:41 AM
we should start our own list.  books

troll you do the music.

  The Republican Concerto.  :music1:  :cry:  :music1:  :cry:   :music1: Because we're going to lose :music1:   :wink: :smile:
Title: Re: TV Shows and your politics
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