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Started by Bo D, December 07, 2011, 01:30:29 PM

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The Troll

Quote from: me on December 09, 2011, 02:50:25 AM
If there were no demand for that type of business there wouldn't be any.  Yes, they may be taking advantage of people but they are also giving the people a service who don't have the connections to sell their items for what they're worth.  Hell, you get the same thing in a music store or anyplace else that deals in used merchandise not just pawn shops although they may be a little worse since that is their business.  You two sure seem to have a problem with people making money don't ya?  Well, anyone but yourselves that is.

  No problem of people making money.  But, sure have a problem with people ripping off other people to make a buck.

  Pawn shops, like pay day loans, car title loan companies with their 50% or higher interest loans are immoral.  That probably why you like them.  We're going to have to get you a job of buying blood from homeless people and giving them $10 for a pint of blood.  We then could call  you a business woman instead of vampire. :bat: :jester:

me

Didn't say I liked them just saying if there weren't a demand they wouldn't exist is all.  They are giving people a service and you shouldn't expect them to do it free or for less than minimum wage by the time you figure their time and expenses.  They have to keep a certain amount of cash on hand to be able to purchase, pay help, either rent or mortgage on their building, utilities, bookkeeper, insurance, and other misc, before they get anything so it isn't all profit. If you have more people selling than buying that is not a good thing ya know.  You have to look at both sides of the business not just one.
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The Troll

Quote from: me on December 09, 2011, 02:36:18 PM
Didn't say I liked them just saying if there weren't a demand they wouldn't exist is all.  They are giving people a service and you shouldn't expect them to do it free or for less than minimum wage by the time you figure their time and expenses.  They have to keep a certain amount of cash on hand to be able to purchase, pay help, either rent or mortgage on their building, utilities, bookkeeper, insurance, and other misc, before they get anything so it isn't all profit. If you have more people selling than buying that is not a good thing ya know.  You have to look at both sides of the business not just one.

  Hey Lady, I owned my own private business for over 40 years.  I was a plumber and I could have ripped all of my customers, but I didn't and I am proud of it.  I charge for my labor and material.  Just plan and simple.

.  Since you were around plumbing you know that most people don't know one damn thing about plumbing and the quality or fixtures or installations, it would be very easy to rip off all of the people.  If I wouldn't have fixtures or material in my house I sure wouldn't sell them to my customers.  No unhappy customers, no law suits and happy.  :biggrin:

Henry Hawk

I think the words of Reagan apply to business........."Trust by verify".  I think as consumers, you have got to beware of what you buy.    I was raised with the addage, 'you get what you pay for'....and I fully believe that.  There have been times where I compromised and settled for the cheaper way out, and I usually regretted it.
People needs to be accountable for there own actions....and quit blaming others if they get ripped off.  If they do, then they need to deal with it, directly with the party who ripped them off...I agree that Pawn shops, pay day loans, car title loan companies with their 50% or higher interest loans may not be moral, but they have a right to do what they do, and if there was not a market, they would not be in business....and the last thing we need is MORE LAWS....we have enough that we don't enforce as it is.
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The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 09, 2011, 03:08:37 PM
I think the words of Reagan apply to business........."Trust by verify".  I think as consumers, you have got to beware of what you buy.    I was raised with the addage, 'you get what you pay for'....and I fully believe that.  There have been times where I compromised and settled for the cheaper way out, and I usually regretted it.
People needs to be accountable for there own actions....and quit blaming others if they get ripped off.  If they do, then they need to deal with it, directly with the party who ripped them off...I agree that Pawn shops, pay day loans, car title loan companies with their 50% or higher interest loans may not be moral, but they have a right to do what they do, and if there was not a market, they would not be in business....and the last thing we need is MORE LAWS....we have enough that we don't enforce as it is.

  Yeah Henery, a true Conservative.  Let the crooked immoral bastards get by with it.  Just because it's legal now doesn't mean that it should continue.  Just like you want to deregulate the banks and the stock market so the crooked bastards can put us in a depression again.  It happened under Hoover and George W. created another.

  Yes sir, the need some more good Republicans like Reagan, Nixon, Ford, Bush 1 and George W who set the depression up.  But that's alright.  You will get to vote for good old Newt Gingrich to screw us again.  :groan:  You sure don't know your history and you really don't know how bad the Republican Party is for the middle class.  :groan:

me

Quote from: The Troll on December 09, 2011, 02:57:32 PM
  Hey Lady, I owned my own private business for over 40 years.  I was a plumber and I could have ripped all of my customers, but I didn't and I am proud of it.  I charge for my labor and material.  Just plan and simple.

.  Since you were around plumbing you know that most people don't know one damn thing about plumbing and the quality or fixtures or installations, it would be very easy to rip off all of the people.  If I wouldn't have fixtures or material in my house I sure wouldn't sell them to my customers.  No unhappy customers, no law suits and happy.  :biggrin:
That is a totally different thing Troll.  Yes, you had to have a certain amount of capitol to work with but you also had to charge to replace it and most of your business was labor not buying things and having to sell them at a higher cost to replace or enlarge your capitol.  In a lot of instances your charge was entirely labor with no parts involved so it was free and clear.  There is no free and clear money in the pawn shop business unless something is just given to them and they have absolutely no cost involved which rarely if ever happens.
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damfast

Lets open a pawn shop.   We can sell stuff.  I get to be the greeter tho.
It's always darkest before the dawn.  So if you're going to steal your neighbor's newspaper, that's the time to do it.

The Troll

Quote from: damfast on December 10, 2011, 09:43:14 AM
Lets open a pawn shop.   We can sell stuff.  I get to be the greeter tho.

  Honey :bee: you could be my greeter.  We'll get a pawn and con, stiff, steal, trick everybody that comes in and we will get rich together.  Why?  Because you don't have to have a conscience or morals to be a pawn shop owner.   :yes: :biggrin: :thumbsup:

damfast

OHH COOL!   i always wanted to be a consciousless, immoral, greedy individual.   i am already rich. lmao
It's always darkest before the dawn.  So if you're going to steal your neighbor's newspaper, that's the time to do it.

me

Quote from: damfast on December 11, 2011, 03:03:06 PM
OHH COOL!   i always wanted to be a consciousless, immoral, greedy individual.   i am already rich. lmao
Oh no, don't tell me you're actually part of the 1%'ers.   :eek:
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damfast

Quote from: me on December 11, 2011, 08:11:11 PM
Oh no, don't tell me you're actually part of the 1%'ers.   :eek:

lol! my richness comes from stuff so much more valuable than money!!
It's always darkest before the dawn.  So if you're going to steal your neighbor's newspaper, that's the time to do it.

me

Quote from: damfast on December 12, 2011, 09:08:33 AM
lol! my richness comes from stuff so much more valuable than money!!
Oh, thank goodness had me worried there for a minute.  You meant the kind of richness that really means something and that money can't replace.   :hug:
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The Troll

Quote from: me on December 09, 2011, 02:50:25 AM
If there were no demand for that type of business there wouldn't be any.  Yes, they may be taking advantage of people but they are also giving the people a service who don't have the connections to sell their items for what they're worth.  Hell, you get the same thing in a music store or anyplace else that deals in used merchandise not just pawn shops although they may be a little worse since that is their business.  You two sure seem to have a problem with people making money don't ya?  Well, anyone but yourselves that is.


  What did the people do before these business came along?  Tell me "ME".  I think there should be business that do this service, but they should be closely monitored and regulated. 

me

Quote from: The Troll on December 12, 2011, 07:35:49 PM

  What did the people do before these business came along?  Tell me "ME".  I think there should be business that do this service, but they should be closely monitored and regulated.
Sold their stuff to other people for probably even less money and without the option for getting it back.  What don't you understand about it's a business and the owners aren't in it for a hobby?  You are always looking at only one side of the picture.  You come across like you think everything they make over what they payed for the merchandise is pure profit and it isn't.  They also don't sell everything they buy immediately and sometimes they have to take a loss because they make a bad buy and can't sell the merchandise at all. 
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damfast

Quote from: me on December 12, 2011, 01:41:49 PM
Oh, thank goodness had me worried there for a minute.  You meant the kind of richness that really means something and that money can't replace.   :hug:

darn tootin. i dont use money as a personal goal anymore.  it is just a tool...
It's always darkest before the dawn.  So if you're going to steal your neighbor's newspaper, that's the time to do it.