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The Troll

Quote from: me on December 13, 2011, 03:06:26 AM
Sold their stuff to other people for probably even less money and without the option for getting it back.  What don't you understand about it's a business and the owners aren't in it for a hobby?  You are always looking at only one side of the picture.  You come across like you think everything they make over what they payed for the merchandise is pure profit and it isn't.  They also don't sell everything they buy immediately and sometimes they have to take a loss because they make a bad buy and can't sell the merchandise at all.

  I understand business, that 50% to 80% is a ripoff for loaning money.  How much over head does it take to be able to charge that much and have a clear conscience.  But like you, someone has to do it. :rant:

me

Quote from: The Troll on December 13, 2011, 02:56:58 PM
  I understand business, that 50% to 80% is a ripoff for loaning money.  How much over head does it take to be able to charge that much and have a clear conscience.  But like you, someone has to do it. :rant:
That mark up is if they sell the item not the interest charged if the person reclaims it that's more like 5% to 10% over what they gave you if you reclaim it in a certain amount of time.  The mark up only applies if you sell the item to them or don't reclaim it in the period allotted if you pawn it.  If you pawn an item and they give you $50 for it and you leave it 2 months it takes $60 to get it back but if you don't come back for it they will sell it for anywhere from $125 to $200.  They start out at the higher dollar amount and reduce it each month they can't sell it. We used to get a lot of stuff from pawn shops 'cause you can get some pretty good deals if you watch but it's usually after they've had the item for a while.  Got ripped of a couple of times too 'cause I hadn't checked around and paid new price for a used item.  Now that irritated me and I didn't go back in there for a looooong time 'cause they wouldn't make it right. 
Trump 2020

The Troll

Quote from: me on December 14, 2011, 01:00:12 AM
That mark up is if they sell the item not the interest charged if the person reclaims it that's more like 5% to 10% over what they gave you if you reclaim it in a certain amount of time.  The mark up only applies if you sell the item to them or don't reclaim it in the period allotted if you pawn it.  If you pawn an item and they give you $50 for it and you leave it 2 months it takes $60 to get it back but if you don't come back for it they will sell it for anywhere from $125 to $200.  They start out at the higher dollar amount and reduce it each month they can't sell it. We used to get a lot of stuff from pawn shops 'cause you can get some pretty good deals if you watch but it's usually after they've had the item for a while.  Got ripped of a couple of times too 'cause I hadn't checked around and paid new price for a used item.  Now that irritated me and I didn't go back in there for a looooong time 'cause they wouldn't make it right.

  What is it that people say, if you're slow or you snooze, you lose.  :wink: :smile:

me

Quote from: The Troll on December 14, 2011, 10:38:48 AM
 

  What is it that people say, if you're slow or you snooze, you lose.  :wink: :smile:
Exactly and I did and I did so that was my fault.  Ain't gonna happen again though.  :wink:
Trump 2020

Y

Quote from: me on December 14, 2011, 01:00:12 AM
That mark up is if they sell the item not the interest charged if the person reclaims it that's more like 5% to 10% over what they gave you if you reclaim it in a certain amount of time.  The mark up only applies if you sell the item to them or don't reclaim it in the period allotted if you pawn it.  If you pawn an item and they give you $50 for it and you leave it 2 months it takes $60 to get it back but if you don't come back for it they will sell it for anywhere from $125 to $200.  They start out at the higher dollar amount and reduce it each month they can't sell it. We used to get a lot of stuff from pawn shops 'cause you can get some pretty good deals if you watch but it's usually after they've had the item for a while.  Got ripped of a couple of times too 'cause I hadn't checked around and paid new price for a used item.  Now that irritated me and I didn't go back in there for a looooong time 'cause they wouldn't make it right.

It's not quite like that, there is a fee plus interest.  If you don't redeem it within the allotted time period, you can renew it at least once, then the pawn shop owns it.

Now how they sell those articles is a little different too.  Most  pawn shops operate on the 'pawn shop principle' - that's how it was named  :biggrin: - which is that someone will pay any exhorbitant price for something sooner or later.  They make such a killing doing that, they don't need to sell much to make a ridiculously fat profit and also why you don't see their inventory turn over that much.  They also use auction sites and like to have a network of shops where they can send merchandise from one town to another or from state to state - EZ Pawn for example.  It allows them to acquire not quite legitimate merchandise and move it out of an area/state where it might be to warm to dispose of over the counter.  ; )

One of the local pawn shops - and prolly the one you're referring to  :biggrin: - used to not like me very well when I had my business(es) open because I advertised I bought pawn tickets for merchandise I was interested in.  It cut down on that pawn shop's ability to acquire primo merchandise and they didn't like it.   :biggrin:
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Y

Quote from: Olias on December 07, 2011, 01:30:29 PM
OH NO!!!!!!! I've just discovered that I'm a conservative Republican! KILL ME! NOW!!!!!!!

Most of my favorite shows are on the wrong side of this list.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/research-firm-breaks-down-politics-of-tv-this-old-house-vs-the-daily-show/2011/12/06/gIQAQPSkaO_story.html

TOP LIBERAL DEMOCRAT SHOWS


1. The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)
2. The Colbert Report (Comedy Central)
3. Masterpiece (PBS)
4. 30 Rock (NBC)
5. Parks and Recreation (NBC)
6. The View (ABC)
7. Glee (Fox)
8. Modern Family (ABC)
9. It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia (FX)
10. Treme (HBO)
11. Cougar Town (ABC)
12. The Late Show with David Letterman (CBS)
13. The Soup (E!)
14. The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson (CBS)
15. Aqua Teen Hunger Force (Adult Swim)
16. Outsourced (NBC)
17. Raising Hope (Fox)
18. Saturday Night Live (NBC)
19. The Office (NBC)
20. American Masters (PBS)
21. Project Runway (Lifetime)
22. United States of Tara (Showtime)
23. Shameless (Showtime)
24. Parenthood (NBC)
25. Conan (TBS)

TOP CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN SHOWS

1. Barrett-Jackson Collector Car Auction(Speed)
2. This Old House (PBS)
3. The 700 Club (syndicated)
4. Swamp Loggers (Discovery)
5. Top Shot (History)
6. The Bachelor (ABC)
7. Castle (ABC)
8. New Yankee Workshop (PBS)
9. Mythbusters (Discovery)
10. Only in America w/ Larry the Cable Guy (History)
11. American Pickers (History)
12. Swamp People (History)
13. Wheel of Fortune (syndicated)
14. Top Gear (BBC America)
15. The Middle (ABC)
16. Pawn Stars (History)
17. The Tonight Show (NBC)
18. Antiques Roadshow (PBS)
19. The Biggest Loser (NBC)
20. Hawaii Five-O (CBS)
21. Dancing With the Stars, results show (ABC)
22. Man vs. Wild (Discovery)
23. Auction Kings (Discovery)
24. NCIS (CBS)
25. The Mentalist (CBS)

'Demo' shows - Me: 3, 14, & 20    My wife: 3, 8, 20, & 24

'Repub' shows - Me: 7, 24, & 25    My wife: 7, 15, sometimes 21, & 25 - but she's starting to lose interest there

Now what all that really indicates about our politics, IMHO, is not much if anything.

We no longer watch anything that's not an 'on air' channel because we became tired of paying for tons of crap we had no intention of watching so we dumped pay TV, put up a mast, a high end antenna, a rotor, and a booster all totaling less than $300 and receive an amazing amount of channels - with shows we actually watch - for no charge.  ; )
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Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

me

Quote from: Y on December 14, 2011, 02:15:44 PM
It's not quite like that, there is a fee plus interest.  If you don't redeem it within the allotted time period, you can renew it at least once, then the pawn shop owns it.

Now how they sell those articles is a little different too.  Most  pawn shops operate on the 'pawn shop principle' - that's how it was named  :biggrin: - which is that someone will pay any exhorbitant price for something sooner or later.  They make such a killing doing that, they don't need to sell much to make a ridiculously fat profit and also why you don't see their inventory turn over that much.  They also use auction sites and like to have a network of shops where they can send merchandise from one town to another or from state to state - EZ Pawn for example.  It allows them to acquire not quite legitimate merchandise and move it out of an area/state where it might be to warm to dispose of over the counter.  ; )

One of the local pawn shops - and prolly the one you're referring to  :biggrin: - used to not like me very well when I had my business(es) open because I advertised I bought pawn tickets for merchandise I was interested in.  It cut down on that pawn shop's ability to acquire primo merchandise and they didn't like it.   :biggrin:
But they are still a business which needs to operate at a profit much like you did and if there wasn't a demand for that type of thing it wouldn't exist.  Why fault someone for trying to earn a living?  Don't know what kind of business you had so don't know how pawn tickets would have come into play but in Troll's way of thinking that would have made you part of the "rip off" scheme getting rich off of other peoples misfortune.
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Y

Quote from: me on December 14, 2011, 03:57:36 PM
But they are still a business which needs to operate at a profit much like you did and if there wasn't a demand for that type of thing it wouldn't exist.  Why fault someone for trying to earn a living?  Don't know what kind of business you had so don't know how pawn tickets would have come into play but in Troll's way of thinking that would have made you part of the "rip off" scheme getting rich off of other peoples misfortune.

Business doesn't have to rape, pillage, and plunder in order to exist.

Maybe Troll might not see me in that light since I usually paid a small premium to the holder for the pawn ticket and then I also had to pay the redemption fees and interest on the ticket to the pawn shop in order to redeem the merchandise.
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

me

Quote from: Y on December 14, 2011, 04:13:38 PM
Business doesn't have to rape, pillage, and plunder in order to exist.

Maybe Troll might not see me in that light since I usually paid a small premium to the holder for the pawn ticket and then I also had to pay the redemption fees and interest on the ticket to the pawn shop in order to redeem the merchandise.
I do have a question though.  Don't you have to have an ID to show that you are the one who pawned the merchandise and didn't just happen to find the ticket? 

But they still have overhead and cost involved in the business so it isn't all profit and you were turning around and selling the item for probably as much as the pawn shop would have not having paid much more than the pawn shop did in the first place.  Yes, the pawn shop made less on their initial investment but you are the one who ultimately made the larger profit from the item of the person who pawned it.  You did almost the same thing to the pawn shop owner that he did to the person who pawned the merchandise to begin with, took advantage of a situation for a profit.
Trump 2020

damfast

i thought we were watchin tv....sadly i dont watch any of those shows....i am an empty slate, a new frontier, clueless, (oh dont start), a clear sky, yeah, ok clueless. 
It's always darkest before the dawn.  So if you're going to steal your neighbor's newspaper, that's the time to do it.

The Troll

Quote from: damfast on December 15, 2011, 08:35:26 AM
i thought we were watchin tv....sadly i dont watch any of those shows....i am an empty slate, a new frontier, clueless, (oh dont start), a clear sky, yeah, ok clueless.

  What I'd like to know is who came of with this dumbass "TV Shows and your your politics" poll.  :doh:  It must be a joke, cause it's dumb.  :doh:

Henry Hawk

Quote from: The Troll on December 15, 2011, 10:10:39 AM
  What I'd like to know is who came of with this dumbass "TV Shows and your your politics" poll.  :doh:  It must be a joke, cause it's dumb.  :doh:

WOW, you know something Troll, ever blue moon, you and I can find SOMETHING that we can agree on........and THIS one, we can agree on!!

WAHOOO!...  :yes:
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Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


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damfast

we should start our own list.  books

troll you do the music.

It's always darkest before the dawn.  So if you're going to steal your neighbor's newspaper, that's the time to do it.

The Troll

Quote from: damfast on December 16, 2011, 08:51:41 AM
we should start our own list.  books

troll you do the music.

  The Republican Concerto.  :music1:  :cry:  :music1:  :cry:   :music1: Because we're going to lose :music1:   :wink: :smile:

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