CORAL SPRINGS - A Coral Springs toddler pulled from a pool Monday afternoon remains in the hospital today, police said.
Edna Mae, who is 18 or 19 months old, is at Broward General Medical Center, where she is listed in critical condition.
Edna was in her family's home, on the 3400 block of Northwest 114th Lane, when she fell into a backyard pool shortly after 4 p.m., said city police spokesman Sgt. Joe McHugh.
The pool had a child-safety fence around it, but the toddler managed to get through an opened part of the fence, McHugh said.
The mother was home at the time of the accident.
Edna was first taken the Coral Springs Medical Center and moved to Broward General Medical Center, McHugh said.
Although police are investigating, no charges are expected so far against anyone.
"It appears to be a terrible accident," McHugh said.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/broward/coral-springs/sfl-child-in-pool-b080309,0,1670787.story
The above article was in the local newspaper last week on August 4th. After that showed up in the newspaper, a relative of mine posts this on Facebook:
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PLEASE...join us in prayer for a little girl named Edna Mae. She is a 19 month old baby girl who's family are members of our Church and she had a pool accident yesterday. She is currently in ICU and there have been no changes to her status.
Ok, so they're praying to ole' Gawd for help now that he let that poor little girl fall into the pool.
:rolleyes:
Then this later in the day:
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can't stop thinking about the family who's baby girl fell in the pool Monday. Praying hard!
Sure hope ole' Gawd is listening.
Then on the 5th:
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getting ready for our trip to Ft Myers Beach, and PRAYING for baby Edna Mae! Please say a prayer for her today!
Wow! Maybe I've been wrong all these years and Gawd does listen to the utterings of his children:
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here's the lastest on Edna Mae: "Her lungs are healing. The doctor said the healing is great but she still has a mountain to climb. Also they are reducing stuff cause she is learning to regulate herself - like her blood pressure. And the doctor was smiling." Please keep praying!
Uh oh! Minimal brain activity. This doesn't sound good.
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Edna's still in a very critical stage. Earlier we were informed that her lungs were healing well and she was learning to self-regulate her blood pressure...However, we've received another update that there is minimal brain activity reported...
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Acts 4:30 (NLT) "Stretch out Your hand with healing power; may miraculous signs and wonders be done through the name of Your Holy Servant, Jesus. " This is my prayer as I continue to pray for Edna Mae.
:eek:
Ole' Jeebus gonna' work a miracle if ya' just ask him??
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leaving for Ft. Myers Beach tomorrow - still so much to do, but I'm too tired! Time for a shower, and my bed! Also, still praying for Edna Mae - no new updates today - hopefully we'll hear something tomorrow! ACTS 4:30!
Off to the beach to continue praying!
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we're having a great time in Ft. Myers Beach, but our hearts are heavy thinking of Edna Mae and her family - we're praying at the beach!
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today is a critical day for Edna Mae. I was just informed that it doesn't look good. Her parents have to decide at 4:00 this afternoon if they are going to bring her out of the coma and see how she does. Her scan the other night wasn't good - PLEASE PRAY!
Scan wasn't good but keep a' prayin'.
Boom! That's all she wrote!
CORAL SPRINGS - A Coral Springs toddler who was hospitalized since being found unconscious in her family's pool last week has died, police said today.
Edna Mae McGovern, 19 months, was pronounced dead at Broward General Medical Center on Tuesday, Police Sgt. Joe McHugh said.
Edna's mother found her floating faceup in their pool on the 3700 block of Northwest 114th Lane on Aug. 3.
Edna was removed from the pool by her father, who immediately began CPR.
The child was taken to Coral Springs Medical Center in critical condition, and then transferred to Broward General.
The pool was equipped with a fence at the time of the accident, but one section of the fence had been left open, McHugh said.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/broward/coral-springs/sfl-coral-springs-toddler-bn081209,0,5231482.story
Now this on Facebook:
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Edna Mae is with Jesus - she is healed - thank you for all who prayed. Please keep her family in your prayers during this difficult time.
See how irrational? Edna Mae is healed because she croaked. :rolleyes: I just can't believe this kind of thinking.
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praying for peace, strength and comfort for the McGovern family as they face the coming days. So sad for their loss.
Now it didn't work before, so now we gotta' pray for peace, strength, and comfort from ole' Gawd after he offed the little girl. Correction: healed the little girl by killing her.
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" The Lord is close to the brokenhearted; he rescues those whose spirits are crushed" Psalm 34:18 Please join me in continuing to pray for the McGovern family.
:rolleyes:
That's the end of my diatribe. Now if anyone at all can explain to me how this is even remotely rational thinking, I'll be in church on Sunday. ;D
(crickets) . . .
Quote from: Palehorse on August 13, 2009, 05:08:19 PM
(crickets) . . .
I suspect it will remain that way. :biggrin:
You wouldn't want to hear my opinion
Quote from: Locutus on August 13, 2009, 05:02:16 PM
That's the end of my diatribe. Now if anyone at all can explain to me how this is even remotely rational thinking, I'll be in church on Sunday. ;D
I can't come up with any explanation which calls this rational thinking, but you should go to church this week. It's pot-luck Sunday. (I only go for the food.)
Quote from: pariann on August 13, 2009, 08:18:19 PM
You wouldn't want to hear my opinion
But of course I would.
Quote from: LOsborne on August 13, 2009, 08:19:24 PM
I can't come up with any explanation which calls this rational thinking, but you should go to church this week. It's pot-luck Sunday. (I only go for the food.)
Of course you can't. That's because it's simply irrational straight out of the gate.
I may go for the food, but I'm not sayin' the blessing. :razz: :biggrin:
Quote from: Locutus on August 13, 2009, 08:23:22 PM
I may go for the food, but I'm not sayin' the blessing. :razz: :biggrin:
You might want to re-think that too. I understand the feller that prays over the vittles gets to be first in line.
Quote from: Locutus on August 13, 2009, 08:23:22 PM
. . .
I may go for the food, but I'm not sayin' the blessing. :razz: :biggrin:
"To dah lawd let dah praises be. It's time for dinner now lets go eat! We got some beans and some good cornbread, and I listened to whut da preacher said!" ~ Lyle Lovett
You won't have to say the blessing. There are plenty of long winded individuals willing to hear themselves prattle on at these things.
Quote from: Palehorse on August 13, 2009, 08:33:38 PM
There are plenty of long winded individuals willing to hear themselves prattle on at these things.
That's why we need to have Locutus do it. He'll be brief. The food will still be warm.
Quote from: LOsborne on August 13, 2009, 08:36:19 PM
That's why we need to have Locutus do it. He'll be brief. The food will still be warm.
Naw. I'll just go to Bob Evans and skip the fractured fairy tales; thank you very much! :biggrin:
Don't want no hockin' on muh bread!
Bread? I'm guessing you didn't ever go to one of those churches where the communion wafers are these thin little wafers that stick to the roof of your mouth. Painful memory #23 -- trying to scrape the residue off my braces before I had to smile at the preacher-man.
Quote from: LOsborne on August 13, 2009, 08:45:33 PM
Bread? I'm guessing you didn't ever go to one of those churches where the communion wafers are these thin little wafers that stick to the roof of your mouth. Painful memory #23 -- trying to scrape the residue off my braces before I had to smile at the preacher-man.
Hell, I thought those things were crackers! :spooked: Used to smuggle a can of Cheeze Whiz in to put on em! :biggrin:
Favorite communion memory:
My grandparents 60th anniversary. The family had to sit in the front pews. The preacher said, "Take, eat." He put the wafer in his mouth and promptly choked. I mean gagging, snorting, tears and snot running down his face choked! I lost it. Turning to my mother, I said, "I always had trouble swallowing that fantasy, too." Then she lost it. We fell off the pew laughing, and rolled on the floor. The deacons asked us to leave.
Quote from: LOsborne on August 13, 2009, 08:57:27 PM
Favorite communion memory:
My grandparents 60th anniversary. The family had to sit in the front pews. The preacher said, "Take, eat." He put the wafer in his mouth and promptly choked. I mean gagging, snorting, tears and snot running down his face choked! I lost it. Turning to my mother, I said, "I always had trouble swallowing that fantasy, too." Then she lost it. We fell off the pew laughing, and rolled on the floor. The deacons asked us to leave.
LMFAO! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
If I say the blessing, we'll all get food poisoning. :yes:
BTW, I'll still await anyone who can refute the point I made on the first 13 posts or so on this thread. If you do, I'll go to church. ;D
JUST my* OPINION----NOT AN ANSWER----NOR-----INTENT TO ENTICE YOU TO GOD OR CHURCH> EITHER GOD FINDS YOU OR YOU FIND GOD!
THAT IS BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR IDEOLOGY TOWARD THE GOD BELIEF!
IN SOME BELIEFS: THE DEATH OF CHILD INFANT IS A PURIFIED SOUL THAT HAS BEEN CLEANSED AND PURE!
A CHILD THAT DIES AT BIRTH IS A PURIFIED SOUL! IT HAS NOT SINNED!
WHEN GOD CALLS GODS OWN! ONLY GOD KNOWS THE CAUSE OR REASON!
NO ONE LIVES FOREVER!
MANKIND THINKS AND BELIEVES AS MANKIND IS TAUGHT. MANKIND DOES NOT HAVE THOSE ANSWERS!
BUT i* BELIEVE IN THE ONE(1)GOD AND HAVE LEARNED NOT TO QUESTION THOSE THINGS I AM NOT MEANT TO KNOW!
i* HAVE LEARNED TO LEAVE IT ALL IN THE HANDS OF GOD!
WHY ATTEMPT TO FATHOM THE UNFATHOMABLE?
DONALD D. CARTER
ANDERSON INDIANA USA
Quote from: LOsborne on August 13, 2009, 08:57:27 PM
Favorite communion memory:
My grandparents 60th anniversary. The family had to sit in the front pews. The preacher said, "Take, eat." He put the wafer in his mouth and promptly choked. I mean gagging, snorting, tears and snot running down his face choked! I lost it. Turning to my mother, I said, "I always had trouble swallowing that fantasy, too." Then she lost it. We fell off the pew laughing, and rolled on the floor. The deacons asked us to leave.
I am sure your grandparents enjoyed it too.
Quote from: Locutus on August 13, 2009, 10:15:31 PM
BTW, I'll still await anyone who can refute the point I made on the first 13 posts or so on this thread. If you do, I'll go to church. ;D
^-------- :wink:
Quote from: Locutus on August 13, 2009, 05:02:16 PM
That's the end of my diatribe. Now if anyone at all can explain to me how this is even remotely rational thinking, I'll be in church on Sunday. ;D
^----- That's my point.
Quote from: Anne on August 14, 2009, 12:56:57 AM
I am sure your grandparents enjoyed it too.
Yes they did. These apples didn't fall far from the tree.
If these folks would redirect their praying to something more constructive, I might be able to win the lottery!
Quote from: Exterminator on August 14, 2009, 07:56:50 AM
If these folks would redirect their praying to something more constructive, I might be able to win the lottery!
How do you figure? Have you seen any positive results to their efforts?
Quote from: LOsborne on August 14, 2009, 07:58:09 AM
How do you figure? Have you seen any positive results to their efforts?
True...guess I'll have to rely on "God's will."
Quote from: Locutus on August 13, 2009, 10:15:31 PM
BTW, I'll still await anyone who can refute the point I made on the first 13 posts or so on this thread. If you do, I'll go to church. ;D
My opinion doesn't involve going to church. But I'm sure you wouldn't buy my belief any more than you do the one that they talk about there.
Dying is a very dull, dreary affair. And my advice to you is to have nothing whatever to do with it
quote of some real famous guy somewhere.
BTW: Sometimes people profess their faith loudly, for whatever reason. I agree that the person who posted those blog statements showed a degree of insanity. The thing is, faith is not loud, insane statements or turning of facts to suit the end. It is a firm, unyeilding belief that you must love as much as you are capable of, that you give yourself to your community, to your freinds and to your church, and you live up to a high standard of behavior. It is listening to a voice that guides you in daily living, one that gives you peace of mind, and joy in life for your days. It really isnt something that you can argue about, or justify to anyone else. But I can tell you, that many times, people i barely know have said to me, "I dont know what you have, but I need some of it". My faith is quiet, strong, and appropriate. I know God leads me, he fills my life, he blesses me every day. I wish for you, with all my heart, a blessing that will fill your heart with joy, and give you a peace that will give you a smile that bursts from your soul and shines on everyone around you. And just because you dont believe it, doesnt mean I cant request it for you.
Interesting ...
Do you all also think meditation sucks?
Quote from: Elaine on August 14, 2009, 10:16:53 AM
BTW: Sometimes people profess their faith loudly, for whatever reason. I agree that the person who posted those blog statements showed a degree of insanity. The thing is, faith is not loud, insane statements or turning of facts to suit the end. It is a firm, unyeilding belief that you must love as much as you are capable of, that you give yourself to your community, to your freinds and to your church, and you live up to a high standard of behavior. It is listening to a voice that guides you in daily living, one that gives you peace of mind, and joy in life for your days. It really isnt something that you can argue about, or justify to anyone else. But I can tell you, that many times, people i barely know have said to me, "I dont know what you have, but I need some of it". My faith is quiet, strong, and appropriate. I know God leads me, he fills my life, he blesses me every day. I wish for you, with all my heart, a blessing that will fill your heart with joy, and give you a peace that will give you a smile that bursts from your soul and shines on everyone around you. And just because you dont believe it, doesnt mean I cant request it for you.
Funny, I have most of these same qualities but there is no god leading me...the voice I hear is my inner self.
Quote from: Bo D on August 14, 2009, 10:20:10 AM
Interesting ...
Do you all also think meditation sucks?
I do. It puts me to sleep!!
Quote from: pariann on August 14, 2009, 10:26:27 AM
I do. It puts me to sleep!!
He said medi
tation, not medi
cation. :biggrin:
Quote from: Exterminator on August 14, 2009, 11:37:00 AM
He said meditation, not medication. :biggrin:
Sometimes that works too!
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~thanks to everyone who has prayed for the McGovern family. The service is today, but I can't bring myself to attend. My heart is just broken for them, and I don't think I could keep it together. I will be praying for them, though.
It's still going on. :rolleyes:
I guess ole' Gawd can't give her enough strength to go to the service.
Quote from: pariann on August 14, 2009, 10:10:13 AM
My opinion doesn't involve going to church. But I'm sure you wouldn't buy my belief any more than you do the one that they talk about there.
Probably not, but I would still be interested in hearing it. That is, after all, what a forum is supposed to be about. The exchange of ideas.
Quote from: Locutus on August 13, 2009, 04:59:32 PM
Now this on Facebook:
See how irrational? Edna Mae is healed because she croaked. :rolleyes: I just can't believe this kind of thinking.
Sounds like murder, to me.
Quote from: incognito on August 13, 2009, 11:23:38 PM
JUST my* OPINION----NOT AN ANSWER----NOR-----INTENT TO ENTICE YOU TO GOD OR CHURCH> EITHER GOD FINDS YOU OR YOU FIND GOD!
THAT IS BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR IDEOLOGY TOWARD THE GOD BELIEF!
IN SOME BELIEFS: THE DEATH OF CHILD INFANT IS A PURIFIED SOUL THAT HAS BEEN CLEANSED AND PURE!
A CHILD THAT DIES AT BIRTH IS A PURIFIED SOUL! IT HAS NOT SINNED!
WHEN GOD CALLS GODS OWN! ONLY GOD KNOWS THE CAUSE OR REASON!
NO ONE LIVES FOREVER!
MANKIND THINKS AND BELIEVES AS MANKIND IS TAUGHT. MANKIND DOES NOT HAVE THOSE ANSWERS!
BUT i* BELIEVE IN THE ONE(1)GOD AND HAVE LEARNED NOT TO QUESTION THOSE THINGS I AM NOT MEANT TO KNOW!
i* HAVE LEARNED TO LEAVE IT ALL IN THE HANDS OF GOD!
WHY ATTEMPT TO FATHOM THE UNFATHOMABLE?
DONALD D. CARTER
ANDERSON INDIANA USA
Not according to the bible.
Quote from: Exterminator on August 14, 2009, 11:37:00 AM
He said meditation, not medication. :biggrin:
Dude, I can spell.
Quote from: Locutus on August 14, 2009, 02:33:04 PM
Probably not, but I would still be interested in hearing it. That is, after all, what a forum is supposed to be about. The exchange of ideas.
My thoughts are that spiritual belief's are personal to each one of us. What I believe doesn't demand that you go out and testify to others. That's just a way of trying to convert others to what you believe. I believe everyone should have a faith that they feel comfortable with, especially when it does no harm to others. And no I'm not Wiccan, though I'm sure there is a dab of pagan belief in my spirituality.
Quote from: pariann on August 14, 2009, 04:04:00 PM
....I'm sure there is a dab of pagan belief in my spirituality.
Yeah. Pagans throw the best parties.
Ain't that the truth.
Quote from: dan foster on August 14, 2009, 02:57:13 PM
Sounds like murder, to me.
Yup! But that doesn't stop 'em from prayin' on. :rolleyes:
Quote from: pariann on August 14, 2009, 04:04:00 PM
My thoughts are that spiritual belief's are personal to each one of us. What I believe doesn't demand that you go out and testify to others. That's just a way of trying to convert others to what you believe. I believe everyone should have a faith that they feel comfortable with, especially when it does no harm to others. And no I'm not Wiccan, though I'm sure there is a dab of pagan belief in my spirituality.
Why is faith (basically an abdication of rational thought) even necessary? I'm a fan of "do no harm" philosophies, however there are many "faith based" people out there doing plenty of harm.
Clearly, my relative who made those posts is off her 'effin rocker if she honestly believes even 10% of the BS that she posted. She's so "faith based" that she's obviously disengaged her noodle. :yes: But then again, disengaging your noodle is a requirement of everyone who is "faith based." :yes:
Quote from: Locutus on August 14, 2009, 08:59:43 PM
Why is faith (basically an abdication of rational thought) even necessary? I'm a fan of "do no harm" philosophies, however there are many "faith based" people out there doing plenty of harm.
I personally believe it is ALL harmful. From just not facing reality, to the resources wasted on spiritual masturbation (shrines of self adoration, money for the vatican, money for any church and it's leadership, loss of tax revenues, etc, etc, etc.) called worship. Just the waste of time, itself. Going to church is masturbation; the believer gets to "feel good" until the next service.
I was speaking in the general sense regarding do no harm. If everyone on the planet subscribed to such, we'd all be better off. The problem with many faith based people is they don't think they're doing any harm when they stick their noses into the business of others.
Quote from: pariann on August 14, 2009, 04:01:19 PM
Dude, I can spell.
Sure but it's no substitute for a sense of humor. :razz:
Quote from: Locutus on August 14, 2009, 10:36:24 PM
I was speaking in the general sense regarding do no harm. If everyone on the planet subscribed to such, we'd all be better off. The problem with many faith based people is they don't think they're doing any harm when they stick their noses into the business of others.
Agree, but still suggest that even the do-no-harm "philosophies" out there, faith-based or not, are harmful; even if you just count the position those folks take in, "is god helping me, or punishing me" in the decisions they make. Ala, the Skinner Box they live in. I think that is harmful to progress, personal and societal.
Quote from: Exterminator on August 15, 2009, 11:47:32 AM
Sure but it's no substitute for a sense of humor. :razz:
I've
foregone all sense of humor until my dumbass half sister pays me the money the judge ordered her to pay nearly 2 weeks ago.
Quote from: pariann on August 15, 2009, 12:42:11 PM
I've foregone all sense of humor until my dumbass half sister pays me the money the judge ordered her to pay nearly 2 weeks ago.
Do you need me to go chop her in the throat?
Quote from: dan foster on August 15, 2009, 12:34:19 PM
Ala, the Skinner Box they live in. I think that is harmful to progress, personal and societal.
Hah! I remember studying Skinner boxes in Philo101. The was a young mother in my class. She confided to me that, should Skinner boxes be readily available, she would never take her kid out of it!
Quote from: dan foster on August 15, 2009, 12:34:19 PM
Ala, the Skinner Box they live in.
Just replace the ole' debbil and his pitchfork for the electrical grid. :devil4: :devil29:
Quote from: Locutus on August 15, 2009, 03:21:31 PM
Just replace the ole' debbil and his pitchfork for the electrical grid. :devil4: :devil29:
You got it. Hard to think that people believe there is a "great father" out there testing them, rewarding them, punishing them. Pretty goddamned self centered, don't you think?
Quote from: Exterminator on August 15, 2009, 01:54:16 PM
Do you need me to go chop her in the throat?
Would you? It might save us the trouble of firing her.
Uh oh!! The prayer warriors have been summoned up once again:
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I am calling on all you prayer warriors! My cousin Katie's boyfriend, Ben is in the Marines and stationed in Afghanistan. His company was hit by a roadside bomb yesterday. He is in serious condition after coming out of surgery- PLEASE PRAY for Ben and for Katie! Thanks!
:rolleyes:
Same relative, different circumstance. If it doesn't turn out any better this time, I'm going to invite her to join the Zone and post on my God sucks thread.
A response so far:
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Oh my gosh Michelle, please let Katie know I'm praying hard!
They're at it again!
I really want to go onto that post that she made and ask what makes her think it's going to turn out any better this time than it did for Edna Mae.
Hmmm.... that strategy didn't play so well with Edna Mae. Now they want to give it one more shot with Ben and Katie? Ya know, when the team is losing, you fire the coach. I guess they will wait for the buzzer before appointing a talent-search committee. Pele has been getting good press lately, but she mostly specializes in pyrotechnics.
That family sure does get smited a lot!
Quote from: Locutus on August 20, 2009, 12:08:17 AM
I really want to go onto that post that she made and ask what makes her think it's going to turn out any better this time than it did for Edna Mae.
Maybe it's like voodoo. It may actually work, if you believe it does. :biggrin: Thus, the reason somebody "NEEDS" to let them know they are prayed for. If you believe someone can cast a spell on you, and find out they did, you might just play it out as "real". Same "real" as the angels and demons that inhabit these folks' universe. People can be led to believe some really goofy stuff, and worse, can make it real in their minds.