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Started by Locutus, August 13, 2009, 04:47:11 PM

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Bo D

#45
August 14, 2009, 11:52:16 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on August 14, 2009, 11:37:00 AM
He said meditation, not medication.   :biggrin:

Sometimes that works too!
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Locutus

#46
August 14, 2009, 01:20:42 PM
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~thanks to everyone who has prayed for the McGovern family. The service is today, but I can't bring myself to attend. My heart is just broken for them, and I don't think I could keep it together. I will be praying for them, though.


It's still going on.  :rolleyes:

I guess ole' Gawd can't give her enough strength to go to the service. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

#47
August 14, 2009, 02:33:04 PM
Quote from: pariann on August 14, 2009, 10:10:13 AM
My opinion doesn't involve going to church.  But I'm sure you wouldn't buy my belief any more than you do the one that they talk about there.

Probably not, but I would still be interested in hearing it.  That is, after all, what a forum is supposed to be about.  The exchange of ideas. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

dan foster

#48
August 14, 2009, 02:57:13 PM
Quote from: Locutus on August 13, 2009, 04:59:32 PM
Now this on Facebook:

See how irrational?  Edna Mae is healed because she croaked.  :rolleyes:  I just can't believe this kind of thinking.

Sounds like murder, to me.
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

dan foster

#49
August 14, 2009, 02:58:57 PM
Quote from: incognito on August 13, 2009, 11:23:38 PM
JUST my* OPINION----NOT AN ANSWER----NOR-----INTENT TO ENTICE YOU TO GOD OR CHURCH> EITHER GOD FINDS YOU OR YOU FIND GOD!

THAT IS BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR IDEOLOGY TOWARD THE GOD BELIEF!


IN SOME BELIEFS: THE DEATH OF CHILD INFANT IS A PURIFIED SOUL THAT HAS BEEN CLEANSED AND PURE!

A CHILD THAT DIES AT BIRTH IS A PURIFIED SOUL! IT HAS NOT SINNED!

WHEN GOD CALLS GODS OWN! ONLY GOD KNOWS THE CAUSE OR REASON!

NO ONE LIVES FOREVER!

MANKIND THINKS AND BELIEVES AS MANKIND IS TAUGHT. MANKIND DOES NOT HAVE THOSE ANSWERS!

BUT i* BELIEVE IN THE ONE(1)GOD AND HAVE LEARNED NOT TO QUESTION THOSE THINGS I AM NOT MEANT TO KNOW!

i* HAVE LEARNED TO LEAVE IT ALL IN THE HANDS OF GOD!

WHY ATTEMPT TO FATHOM THE UNFATHOMABLE?

DONALD D. CARTER
ANDERSON INDIANA USA
Not according to the bible.
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

pariann

#50
August 14, 2009, 04:01:19 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on August 14, 2009, 11:37:00 AM
He said meditation, not medication.   :biggrin:
Dude, I can spell.
Looks like I've come full circle.

pariann

#51
August 14, 2009, 04:04:00 PM
Quote from: Locutus on August 14, 2009, 02:33:04 PM
Probably not, but I would still be interested in hearing it.  That is, after all, what a forum is supposed to be about.  The exchange of ideas. 
My thoughts are that spiritual belief's are personal to each one of us.  What I believe doesn't demand that you go out and testify to others.  That's just a way of trying to convert others to what you believe. I believe everyone should have a faith that they feel comfortable with, especially when it does no harm to others.  And no I'm not Wiccan, though I'm sure there is a dab of pagan belief in my spirituality.
Looks like I've come full circle.

LOsborne

#52
August 14, 2009, 06:38:09 PM
Quote from: pariann on August 14, 2009, 04:04:00 PM
....I'm sure there is a dab of pagan belief in my spirituality.

Yeah. Pagans throw the best parties.

followsthewolf

#53
August 14, 2009, 08:13:12 PM
Ain't that the truth.
Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

Locutus

#54
August 14, 2009, 08:54:47 PM
Quote from: dan foster on August 14, 2009, 02:57:13 PM
Sounds like murder, to me.

Yup!  But that doesn't stop 'em from prayin' on.  :rolleyes:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

#55
August 14, 2009, 08:59:43 PM
Quote from: pariann on August 14, 2009, 04:04:00 PM
My thoughts are that spiritual belief's are personal to each one of us.  What I believe doesn't demand that you go out and testify to others.  That's just a way of trying to convert others to what you believe. I believe everyone should have a faith that they feel comfortable with, especially when it does no harm to others.  And no I'm not Wiccan, though I'm sure there is a dab of pagan belief in my spirituality.

Why is faith (basically an abdication of rational thought) even necessary?  I'm a fan of "do no harm" philosophies, however there are many "faith based" people out there doing plenty of harm. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

#56
August 14, 2009, 09:03:04 PM
Clearly, my relative who made those posts is off her 'effin rocker if she honestly believes even 10% of the BS that she posted.  She's so "faith based" that she's obviously disengaged her noodle.  :yes:   But then again, disengaging your noodle is a requirement of everyone who is "faith based." :yes:     
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

dan foster

#57
August 14, 2009, 09:58:58 PM
Quote from: Locutus on August 14, 2009, 08:59:43 PM
Why is faith (basically an abdication of rational thought) even necessary?  I'm a fan of "do no harm" philosophies, however there are many "faith based" people out there doing plenty of harm.

I personally believe it is ALL harmful.  From just not facing reality, to the resources wasted on spiritual masturbation (shrines of self adoration, money for the vatican, money for any church and it's leadership, loss of tax revenues, etc, etc, etc.) called worship.  Just the waste of time, itself.  Going to church is masturbation; the believer gets to "feel good" until the next service.
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

Locutus

#58
August 14, 2009, 10:36:24 PM
I was speaking in the general sense regarding do no harm.  If everyone on the planet subscribed to such, we'd all be better off.  The problem with many faith based people is they don't think they're doing any harm when they stick their noses into the business of others.
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Exterminator

#59
August 15, 2009, 11:47:32 AM
Quote from: pariann on August 14, 2009, 04:01:19 PM
Dude, I can spell.

Sure but it's no substitute for a sense of humor.    :razz:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.
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