Vents: Random Acts of Venting!

[Sandy Eggo]

They don't deserve that dog. I'd call animal rescue.

[Palehorse]

That's just plain cruel.  He looks like he could be such a great dog too with the proper care.  People like them and my neighbors have no business with a dog.   

EXACLY! 

[The Troll]

   PH, I going to tell how I solved my dog barking problems and how two guys solved their dog problems. 

  I solve my problem with an old Daisy BB gun.  It was tired but would shoot.  Wouldn't shoot though a side of a aluminum beer can at 30  ft. 

  Both side of me these people would leave their dogs out when they left the house.   Then came the barking howling all day long.  I talked to the people, one threatened me and the said, Oh well I can't leave him in the house he tears it up and I talked to the police.  All bull shit and nothing

  Well, I shot them once of twice in the ass when they were barking and would scream Shut Up.  After the training period.  When I cock the gun, one would run and hide behind the air conditioning unit and the other would run behind the garage and hide and both would shut up.

  One guy had a dog tearing his garbage up at pickup time.  Told owned and owner said, "that what dogs do and laughed.  Trash day comes, Herb sets in his kitchen with front door open, dog come and starts tearing up garbage, Herb in kitchen take deer gun, shoot dog, goes out with garbage sack and puts dog in sack, garbage truck come by and takes dog and problem.

  Second dog, second guy.  Dog comes over and tears up property and garbage cans put on porch.  Talks to Neighbor and cops, nothing.  Guy puts out fresh garbage and antifreeze soaked hot dogs in front of cans.  Dog comes eat hot dogs and no more dog or dog problems.  Neither man wanted to kill dogs and couldn't kill owners, so welllllll, there are times when you have to take care of your own problems the best way you can.  Good luck, don't let some do gooder see  you.  I sure won't say nothing.

[Sandy Eggo]

For just as much effort any of you could have solved the problem humanely. It wasn't the dogs' fault, they don't think like we do.

Seriously, I'm appauled and that angers me and makes me sad that humans couldn't come up with a better way to handle those problems.

Superior species my ass!

[The Troll]

For just as much effort any of you could have solved the problem humanely. It wasn't the dogs' fault, they don't think like we do.

Seriously, I'm appauled and that angers me and makes me sad that humans couldn't come up with a better way to handle those problems.

Superior species my ass!

  Sweetie, just how would you handle it?  No help from  the law, no help from the owner and the dog doesn't give a damn.

  JUST WHAT WOULD YOU DO.  HUGGING A TREE WON'T HELP.  I'm with the the men and me 100%.

[me]

Ammonia on the trash bag, or in it, will keep all kinds of critters out of your trash and is much more humane than shooting them with a BB gun and you don't have to sit there and watch for them.

Paying attention to the barking dog just to show them someone is around and cares works wonders on a barking neighbor dog too.  We have the same problem next door to us and that's all it takes is for one of us to go out and talk to him and he quiets down.  Dogs get lonely too ya know.  If you listen to how the dog is barking you can tell what it is they are wanting or needing most times because dogs have different types of sounds for their different needs or wants.  Instead of getting upset with the dog be upset with the neighbors and make friends with the dog.  Even though it isn't your responsibility to care for the dog you'll get better results and doing the dog a favor.   

[Sandy Eggo]

Seriously Troll, are you and your friends so unresourceful that tormenting, shooting, or poisoning dogs are the only options that you can come up with?

What about animal control or a rescue? If a dog is being mistreated and being teathered and in distress (that's why they're barking) is mistreatment, then they'll come out.

A motion activated ultrasonic dog repeller ranging in price from $20 to $50 would keep them away from the yard. They come in battery and solar powered versions. There's some which work on barking dogs too.

I had a neighbor in an apartment complex who left his dogs to bark on the patio. I bought inexpensive dog toys and filled them w/peanut butter and tossed them over the railing. That lasted long enough for the owners to get home and take them inside.

There's Bitter Apple spray ranging in price from about $6 and $11 depending on size.

That's just off the top of my head.

[Palehorse]

Troll's solution is the very same one my father in law endorses. He even gave me some tools with which to implement these solutions. I'm not ready to resort to such yet. . . BUT, I do conduct a recon of the area prior to taking my dog out now, and I have a method at the ready to repel the dog should it get loose again and charge at my dog. (Pepper spray that the mail carriers use for the exact same problem).

While I do not necessarily want to cause the animal discomfort, he obviously is not responding to the pain being introduced upon him by my dog each time he has trespassed. I WILL get his attention and make it abundantly clear to him that he is NOT welcome here at any time. His owners refuse to work with the dog and obviously could not care less about him or the issues he causes.

Animal control does not respond in a timely manner, last time arriving 3 hours after the incident and saying unless they catch the animal in the act there is nothing they can do. Law enforcement will do nothing. . . until the incident results in injury. . . Then they'll want to put my dog down regardless of the circumstances. (FACT).

These people do not deserve the dog, that much is sure. While I agree that the dog is salvageable and just needs to be worked with, it is not my responsibility to do so. I do so with my own animals and expect other animal owners to do the same.

It is also my responsibility as the alpha male in this pack to assure the safety of the pack members. I will do so utilizing non-lethal means whenever possible, but can and will utilize lethal means if necessary.

[Sandy Eggo]

Yours is a little bit of a different circumstance, PH. This poor unfortunate dog is a victim already, but that's no reason why it should threaten the well-being of your home. I can't imagine hurting an animal or another person, but if my animals or child were in danger, I'm not sure I could stop myself.

Trash and noise are fixable and I don't think severe enough to justify the punishment they received.

[me]

Animal control does not respond in a timely manner, last time arriving 3 hours after the incident and saying unless they catch the animal in the act there is nothing they can do. Law enforcement will do nothing. . . until the incident results in injury. . . Then they'll want to put my dog down regardless of the circumstances. (FACT).

The shame of that is your dog would be acting in self defense and on a chain.  If he were a different breed it would be seen as just that too but not in the case of your dog because of its breed.  That is just not right any way you slice it.

[Lester Sasquatch]

A table top sound activated ultra sonic device will emit a burst of sound at a frequency too high for the human ear to detect when activated by the sound of the dog barking. The dog will find this burst of sound uncomfortable and will soon associate the sound with barking. Yes, these devices cost money and the costs is generally proportional to the its effective distance but they are extremely humane and work very well. I saw one once that the manufacturer claimed an effective range of 75 feet. They also make a model that is activated by a remote control. You can use this one to modify the dog's behaviors other than barking. For example say the dog is constantly chewing up the cushions on your lawn furniture. You would watch the animal and once it started touching the cushion, push the remote to activate the ultra sonic device. This model would work to train the dog from getting in your trash and, when put in the sound activated mode, also be effective to train the animal not to bark. The neighbor would not hear it and, as far as I know, it is not illegal to use them on a neighbor's animals. The sound, while uncomfortable to the animal, causes no permanent damage nor is it inhumane. The downside of a stand alone unit is that when more than one dog is within range, the dogs that aren't barking get confused because they have nothing to associate the burst of sound with.

I have two little Chihuahuas whose company I enjoy dearly. Instead of using a stand alone ultra sonic device to train them when it is not acceptable to bark, I use a collar instead. You see the male, Morty, only barks when someone is at the door or a stranger comes inside. But the little female barks at just about anything that she sees moving outside, even bugs or leaves blowing across the porch, so I put the collar on her because I don't want Morty to stop protecting his domain by barking. he is a good little watchdog. The little female has learned to associate the collar with barking and as soon as it is placed around her neck, she never barks. I wish I knew how train her to mimic Morty. I am hoping that she will learn from him when it is acceptable to bark.

Placing about 1/4 cup of bleach inside the trash bag to deter the animal from tearing it up is an accepted method from reputable dog trainers. Any animal that breaks open the trash bag and gets a good whiff of the bleach will soon associate the uncomfortable smell of bleach with trash bags. Depending upon how intelligent the animal is, it doesn't take long for it to stop tearing into the trash bag. This technique is not limited to canines either. It will train cats, raccoons, and other animals not to get in your trash but I have heard that this method isn't effective on members of the rodent family.

[Palehorse]

I'm actually for administering a beating to the owners of unruly dogs! 

[me]

Now that sounds like a plan.  Tie them up in the yard with no food or water and a cable that tangles every time they move.   

I'm actually for administering a beating to the owners of unruly dogs! 

[Palehorse]

Now that sounds like a plan.  Tie them up in the yard with no food or water and a cable that tangles every time they move.   

Or put them in a crate in the center of the yard, feed them raw meat and hose them down once a month. Like they do to their dogs! 

[me]

They actually feed the dog raw meat?  I know dogs eat raw meat in the wild but to feed a domesticated dog raw meat is just plain stupid and asking for trouble IMO.   

Or put them in a crate in the center of the yard, feed them raw meat and hose them down once a month. Like they do to their dogs!