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Started by Locutus, May 09, 2007, 09:20:54 PM

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Henry Hawk

Dan, I know better that wasting MY time on anything you post, so I won't.  Other than to say, I am thankfull that I live in a country that has given me the freedom from people like you.....and that I have great pride and joy with that freedom.  I expect NO free pass nor will I give one either....YOU will HAVE to accept those of US, who freely, accept the Word of God....and I will ALWAYS stand behind MY choice and NEVER, EVER compromise myself or allow your fruitless efforts to even remotely TRY to persuade your delusional conclusions on me or my family.

btw, if THAT is your favorite lesson from the "good book".....then I have proved my point.

and with THAT said, If your life is fulfilled with scientist (which are the one's YOU depend on to interpret YOUR beliefs), then God-Bless ya, and more power to you!... ;) :)
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Elaine

I am pretty sure that was a love letter written to a young village girl by the king, where he expressed his love for her.

Some believe it is God's song of love for Israel, and some think it is simply a beautiful poem a man wrote to his beloved.

Would be interested in seeing if you have the gumption to actually look up some of the commentaries. 
Red meat is not bad for you, fuzzy green meat is bad for you.

dan foster

Quote from: Elaine on July 29, 2009, 12:12:47 PM
I am pretty sure that was a love letter written to a young village girl by the king, where he expressed his love for her.

Some believe it is God's song of love for Israel, and some think it is simply a beautiful poem a man wrote to his beloved.

Would be interested in seeing if you have the gumption to actually look up some of the commentaries.

You think the author is a man, talking about another man?  Ewww, not that there is anything wrong with that   :biggrin:

OR, worse, you think it is a man talking about an underage girl, as in:

Numbers 31 (King James Version)
17Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

So, it is OK to murder little boys and to rape little girls, by the word of the bible, but oral sex is just beyond the pale?  Isn't that just how you guys follow this crap; pick and choose what you want, but ignore the "other" stuff?  Although, you turned the Song of Solomon into a gay sexual act.  Not sure how you came to that interpretation and I don't need to look up or read anyone else's commentary.   Yours is goofier than most.  Why don't you provide the commentary from others that interprets it differently?  I don't think your interpretation is quite on the mark.




"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

dan foster

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 29, 2009, 08:15:55 AM
Dan, I know better that wasting MY time on anything you post, so I won't.  Other than to say, I am thankfull that I live in a country that has given me the freedom from people like you.....and that I have great pride and joy with that freedom.  I expect NO free pass nor will I give one either....YOU will HAVE to accept those of US, who freely, accept the Word of God....and I will ALWAYS stand behind MY choice and NEVER, EVER compromise myself or allow your fruitless efforts to even remotely TRY to persuade your delusional conclusions on me or my family.

btw, if THAT is your favorite lesson from the "good book".....then I have proved my point.

and with THAT said, If your life is fulfilled with scientist (which are the one's YOU depend on to interpret YOUR beliefs), then God-Bless ya, and more power to you!... ;) :)

Nope, I study the evidence of scientific facts (real, not imaginary; physical, not metaphysical) and draw my own conclusions based on my study of science.  YOU, study the words of others as that is the ONLY evidence you have for anything in your belief system; the words of others.  I don't take the word of anyone else for ANYTHING as people can be wrong about any, and everything!  That's all you have.
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

Henry Hawk

Quote from: dan foster on July 29, 2009, 09:47:18 PM
I don't take the word of anyone else for ANYTHING as people can be wrong about any, and everything! 

Including yourself.... ;)
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

dan foster

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 29, 2009, 10:13:20 PM
Including yourself.... ;)

I can be wrong, too.  Never excluded myself from that.  However, I don't lie to myself, either.
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

Palehorse

Only humankind would waste so much time and energy, and allow every act of war in recorded history, to be initiated by something it cannot prove exists anywhere except within the depths of the minds of those who would be deluded by it; religion. Killing humankind since it was created.
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

Quote from: dan foster on July 29, 2009, 11:10:50 PM
I can be wrong, too.  Never excluded myself from that.  However, I don't lie to myself, either.

My personal experiences with God may not be able to proved scientifically.......but it does NOT mean they are lies by any way, shape or form.....The Bible may have been 'written' by men, (and I say 'written') but it's content and messages has been ROCK solid in answering many, many life situations that have been thrown at me....there have been things that have happened to me, that have NOT been....'coincidence' or 'just happened' by chance....all this happened, once I began to put God first in my life...His word has never come back void...The Holy Spirit, that you have 'heard' about, has provided me with a sense of comfort that cannot be imagined or manufactured....I have been on both sides of the fences on this more than once....there was a period of time, where I began to have doubts IF what I was experiencing was real or not.........I drifted away from God, and my life was a disaster and out of control.......THEN, I recommitted my Life to putting God first, and trusting in the Holy Spirit, allowed my heart to follow, what God's plan IS for me...again, MORE life experiencing incidents happened to me, that confirmed, (to me) that He was truly working in my life...there is NO magic formula or scientific equation to confirm it.....but it was/is, as real as the clouds in the sky....

So, Dan, with THAT said, I have MY reasons for believing in the quotes from many of our forefathers, who revered God and deemed Him as significant in building this country.....and I know, that I, or no one can force this TRUST and way of life on anyone....and do not even want to try to....but I will not simply back down from what I KNOW is the truth either....despite what science teaches YOU.......the bottom line is, we will ALL know the TRUTH someday.....and what I have to support MY beliefs, is MORE than enough for me to satisfy my soul.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Palehorse on July 30, 2009, 08:15:42 AM
Only humankind would waste so much time and energy, and allow every act of war in recorded history, to be initiated by something it cannot prove exists anywhere except within the depths of the minds of those who would be deluded by it; religion. Killing humankind since it was created.

and I say (my opinion) that is Satan, a fallen angel of God, has created the delusions that have used God as the means of excuses of war........has allowed humankind all sorts of reasons to kill.....and that has included Christian followers....We ALL are sinners and capable of anything.....in my view, Satan's job was to distract humans from following God's word....and to fall short of the glory of God....just my opinion.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 30, 2009, 08:35:58 AM
My personal experiences with God may not be able to proved scientifically.......but it does NOT mean they are lies by any way, shape or form...

No, they're delusions.

QuoteThe Bible may have been 'written' by men, (and I say 'written') but it's content and messages has been ROCK solid in answering many, many life situations that have been thrown at me...

Too bad it didn't have a section on basic verb conjugation.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 30, 2009, 08:43:09 AM
and I say (my opinion) that is Satan, a fallen angel of God, has created the delusions that have used God as the means of excuses of war...

LMAO...satan...are you for real?

Quote...has allowed humankind all sorts of reasons to kill...

Like the global war on "terrorism"?

Quote..and that has included Christian followers....We ALL are sinners and capable of anything.....in my view, Satan's job was to distract humans from following God's word....and to fall short of the glory of God....just my opinion.

If God is all powerful, why does he allow Satan to exist?  It is patently ridiculous.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Locutus

Quote from: Exterminator on July 30, 2009, 10:13:23 AM
If God is all powerful, why does he allow Satan to exist? 

Refer to the title of the thread for your answer.  :yes: :biggrin:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Exterminator

Quote from: Locutus on July 30, 2009, 10:35:38 AM
Refer to the title of the thread for your answer.  :yes: :biggrin:

Ah, yes...the suckage factor.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

my answer was to Dan.......and I will not waste anymore time on this, because it is pointless in the firt place.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

dan foster

Quote from: Exterminator on July 30, 2009, 10:37:30 AM
Ah, yes...the suckage factor.

Yes, he doth sucketh; working "his" magic in the minds of people that see demons and devils all over the earth.
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke