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Started by Locutus, May 09, 2007, 09:20:54 PM

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Exterminator

#465
July 30, 2008, 10:02:05 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 29, 2008, 01:11:39 PM
the bottom line is...................it seems to me that there is some mercy upon the poor, single mother, who screws several partners and has several kids...........but, a married couple, who are Christians, decides to have a large family.....home-school them, raise them in a loving enviorment, clothes them, and teaches them to be responsible human-beings....are being trashed as scum, because they are over-populating the earth.....and not adopting other peoples kids.....

The reality is that most of the people like this who have litters of children can't afford to do so and do depend on public assistance to house, feed and clothe them.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

#466
July 30, 2008, 10:06:47 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 30, 2008, 09:44:01 AM
...my religion is mocked and made fun of...

So is mine but his noodly goodness is far too busy with important matters to be offended by it.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Sandy Eggo

#467
July 30, 2008, 10:17:59 AM
I read it Henry (thank you) and I'm still left w/questions.

Why would God allow the Devil to mess w/a someone so devoted? What did that prove exactly and to whom?

If God is stronger than Satan then he/she has nothing to prove. If God is secure that he/she is the supreme being then certainly he/she didn't need anything proved to him/herself. Besides, didn't he/she already know the outcome?

I don't understand the purpose of the "test" and the only person that suffered was the faithful devotee.
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

Henry Hawk

#468
July 30, 2008, 10:57:55 AM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on July 30, 2008, 10:17:59 AM
I read it Henry (thank you) and I'm still left w/questions.

Why would God allow the Devil to mess w/a someone so devoted? What did that prove exactly and to whom?

If God is stronger than Satan then he/she has nothing to prove. If God is secure that he/she is the supreme being then certainly he/she didn't need anything proved to him/herself. Besides, didn't he/she already know the outcome?

I don't understand the purpose of the "test" and the only person that suffered was the faithful devotee.

I know that my answer is only going to be replied as a 'cop' out..but, God tells us NOT to lean on our own understandings....but to TRUST in Him....

I think, people WANT answers to everything...it is our nature...........but, God has his reasos..........

I know for me, there are times I tell my kids to do something and they ask...WHY?...and sometimes, they don't need to know anything more, than just because I told you so.......they simply don't need to know EVERYTHING, rather just trust me and do it.....

maybe that is the logic I use, .... and I know, it does not settle well for those who don't believe...but, that is where the faith comes in for me...
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

#469
July 30, 2008, 10:59:07 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on July 30, 2008, 10:02:05 AM
The reality is that most of the people like this who have litters of children can't afford to do so and do depend on public assistance to house, feed and clothe them.

then that is wrong then....imo
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

#470
July 30, 2008, 10:59:27 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on July 30, 2008, 09:48:43 AM
The ones who lose their homes to foreclosure?

real classy...
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

dan foster

#471
July 30, 2008, 06:59:53 PM
Just a couple of notes:

- The church where the shooting was going on was a Univeralist church, which from my understanding, is a social club and not a religious institution, at all.  Point is: people kill others for their own reasons all the time and no god, devil, demon, or angel had anything to do with it.  The ignorance of religion is usually just a symptom of the problem, but far too often, it is the cause, but again, not by the hand of some invisible, imaginary creature.

- One can't be a racist (proper spelling) against a religion.  One can be a snob about ignorant people, including most religious types, but having a strong opinion about ignorant religious people doesn't make one a racist.  And, if one is a bigot about a religion (say, christianity), by definition; if you know the subject and understand it, your opposition to it doesn't make you a bigot.  Bigotry, by definition, is an uninformed opinion or hatred based in ignorance (the very problem with MOST religions).

- People are naturally curious and ask probing questions for which religions can't cope with.  So, the ultimate cop out for MOST religions is to discourage such questioning by saying; "god has his reasons", "it's god's will", "we aren't supposed to know everything", etc.  Again, statements that are only based in absolute ignorance.  Anyone that claims the bible has a 100% reliability rating, without caveatting the mindless killing, rape and pillage, sexual misconduct, etc, as disgusting, is absolutely ignorant about the writings in the book; also, the very problem with MOST religions and especially the modern result of the bible, christianity).

"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

incognito

#472
July 30, 2008, 08:51:17 PM
 :wink:

GOD I LOVE

christians CAN KISS MY BLACK ASS! >:(
DON CARTER ANDERSON INDIANA

dan foster

#473
July 30, 2008, 10:07:02 PM
Quote from: incognito on July 30, 2008, 08:51:17 PM
:wink:

GOD I LOVE

christians CAN KISS MY BLACK ASS! >:(

:biggrin:
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

Exterminator

#474
July 31, 2008, 12:58:09 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 30, 2008, 10:59:27 AM
real classy...

Hey, you were the one who took it upon himself to decide who could and couldn't have kids.  I'm just sayin'...
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

#475
July 31, 2008, 01:00:10 PM
Quote from: incognito on July 30, 2008, 08:51:17 PM
:wink:

GOD I LOVE

christians CAN KISS MY BLACK ASS! >:(

Quit holding back; tell us how you really feel.   :biggrin:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

#476
July 31, 2008, 01:09:44 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on July 31, 2008, 12:58:09 PM
Hey, you were the one who took it upon himself to decide who could and couldn't have kids.  I'm just sayin'...

whatever.... :rolleyes:

if you read everything....I'm the one who IS NOT saying that.........I said who cares how many kids a family has....as long as THEY are taking care of them....and NOT sticking their hands out for charity....other's on here was saying they thought the family having 18 kids was irresponsible....
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

incognito

#477
July 31, 2008, 08:27:52 PM
OH! HENRY (no pun intended):

don't know if you are aware of my personal ideology on earthly religions;

i have no problem with CHRISTIANS= FOLLOWERS OF THE WAYS AND WORDS OF CHRIST!

I DETEST christians= the believers in the words as taught by man!


i have no problem with MUSLIMS= FOLLOWERS OF THE WORD OF ALLAH AS GIVEN TO MOHAMMAD

i detest muslims= followers of the word as taught by man :wink: 8)
DON CARTER ANDERSON INDIANA

Henry Hawk

#478
July 31, 2008, 08:37:24 PM
Quote from: incognito on July 31, 2008, 08:27:52 PM
OH! HENRY (no pun intended):

don't know if you are aware of my personal ideology on earthly religions;

i have no problem with CHRISTIANS= FOLLOWERS OF THE WAYS AND WORDS OF CHRIST!

I DETEST christians= the believers in the words as taught by man!


i have no problem with MUSLIMS= FOLLOWERS OF THE WORD OF ALLAH AS GIVEN TO MOHAMMAD

i detest muslims= followers of the word as taught by man :wink: 8)

sounds reasonable.... :yes:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

dan foster

#479
July 31, 2008, 10:30:49 PM
Seems to me, the couple just like sex, a lot, and have found a divine justification for the "parting of the legs" on a routine basis.  They are obviously retarded with no "human" reasoning left in their heads (or just lost the ability to think on all the energy of being so irresponsible).  So, you can "praise god all day long", but they are just a puppy mill spitting out an obviously large group of future robots.

Like the catholic justification for large families (pope says we can't use birth control), the term "the wrong folks are having the most kids" certainly seems apropos.
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke
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