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Started by Locutus, May 09, 2007, 09:20:54 PM

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Exterminator

Quote from: Locutus on April 18, 2008, 12:22:43 PM
She was taken to an area hospital for a mental evaluation.

No way!
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Locutus

One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

me

Typical male point of view..... :yes: :razz:
Trump 2020

Locutus

One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

me

Trump 2020

Sandy Eggo

Quote from: me on April 18, 2008, 07:51:55 PM
Typical male point of view..... :yes: :razz:

I know! There aren't ever any hot nutbar men that do crap like that and if they did, the fact they were nutty enough to attempt something like that and credit God for it would be such a turn off that it wouldn't matter if they were hot before they opened their mouths. ;D
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Locutus

Little League Inc. sues Pompano man over 'Christian Little League'

BY VANESSA BLUM

South Florida Sun-Sentinel

April 21, 2008

Little League Baseball Inc. is suing a Pompano Beach man in Fort Lauderdale federal court for trademark violation over the name of his youth baseball group, Christian Little League.

The weight of the law is on the side of Little League, experts agreed. But Jay Kaplan, a 46-year-old father who started the league in January, insists he answers to a higher authority.

"GOD is the ultimate judge and has the final say,"
he wrote in a March 15 letter to Little League's lawyers.

Before filing suit Thursday, the organization's lawyers contacted Kaplan in a March 7 letter demanding that he stop using the Little League tag. The similar names could mislead and confuse the public by suggesting an affiliation between the groups, the lawyers wrote.

Kaplan responded with a four-page letter declaring only God could judge the dispute. He said no one would confuse his Coral Springs group with a secular organization and argued the phrase "little league" had entered the common vernacular.

"Christian Little League was GOD's idea and it is a great and wonderful idea," wrote Kaplan, who grew up Jewish and converted to Christianity. "I have no plans on changing the name GOD gave me."

Reached Friday on his way to Marlins youth baseball night, Kaplan said he had not yet seen the lawsuit.

"My position is Little League should embrace the name of Jesus. Let's start with that," he said.

But Little League's attorneys said God should be left out of it.

"The dispute is not theological, it is legal," the lawyers stated in a second letter sent March 17. They added: "Our client has no objection to your preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ. ... Our client simply requests that you do so under a different name."

The letter suggested three alternatives — Christian Youth League, Christian Youth Baseball and Christian Baseball League — and threatened a lawsuit would follow if the name were not changed by March 28.

According to Kaplan, about 25 players have signed on to his fledging league, enough to field two teams.

"We play & we pray & we bible study," states the group's Web site at www.christianll.com, which notes the group is not affiliated with Little League Baseball Inc.

Christopher Downs, a spokesman for Little League headquarters in South Williamsport, Pa., said the Little League brand is often misused because it's so widely known.

"We have to be very protective of our trademark name and educate people that Little League is a trademarked entity that should not be used generically," Downs said. "Just because you have children playing youth baseball or youth softball doesn't mean they are playing Little League baseball or softball."

Little League, which got its start in 1939, has more than 2 million players in its baseball division and 400,000 participating in softball, according to its Web site.

It has a presence in 70 countries and at least 20 affiliated teams in Broward and Palm Beach counties.

It might seem odd that a group so entrenched in the American psyche would take notice of 25 players in Coral Springs.

However, trademark owners know they must be vigilant about protecting trademarks or risk losing them, said Matthew Nelles, a Fort Lauderdale trademark attorney at the law firm Ruden, McClosky, Smith, Schuster & Russell.

Nelles said trademark law does not treat religious entities any differently than nonreligious ones.

The basic principle is to protect the public from confusing one product with another, he said.

"Little League is a very strong trademark," Nelles said. "No one can contest the validity of that trademark."

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/sfl-flblittleleague0421sbapr21,0,5731885.story
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

I wonder what this asshole is going to tell ole' Gawd when he loses this suit in court.  :rolleyes:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

dan foster

Quote from: Locutus on April 21, 2008, 12:23:56 PM
I wonder what this asshole is going to tell ole' Gawd when he loses this suit in court.  :rolleyes:

Hope they can instill "damages" for his defamation of their name  :eek:
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

Locutus

Jeebus!!!  :mad: 

Here's more of this shit.

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Parents charged in death of diabetic daughter

    * Story Highlights
    * Girl, 11, died of complications from untreated diabetes
    * Parents prayed but did not take ailing child to a doctor
    * Dale and Leilani Neumann face reckless homicide charges
    * They are scheduled to appear in court on Wednesday

WESTON, Wisconsin (AP) -- Two parents who prayed as their 11-year-old daughter died of untreated diabetes were charged Monday with second-degree reckless homicide.

Family and friends had urged Dale and Leilani Neumann to get help for their daughter, but the father considered the illness "a test of faith" and the mother never considered taking the girl to the doctor because she thought her daughter was under a "spiritual attack," the criminal complaint said.

"It is very surprising, shocking that she wasn't allowed medical intervention," Marathon County District Attorney Jill Falstad said. "Her death could have been prevented."

Madeline Neumann died March 23 -- Easter Sunday -- at her family's rural Weston home. Her parents were told the body would be taken to Madison for an autopsy the next day.

"They responded, 'You won't need to do that. She will be alive by then,"' the medical examiner wrote in a report.

An autopsy determined that Madeline died from undiagnosed diabetic ketoacidosis, which left her with too little insulin in her body. Court records said she likely had some symptoms of the disease for months. VideoWatch prosecutors announce charges »

The Neumanns each face up to 25 years in prison if convicted. The couple and their attorney did not immediately return messages left Monday by The Associated Press.

Falstad said the Neumanns have cooperated with investigators and are not under arrest. They have agreed to make an initial court appearance Wednesday, she said.

Randall Wormgoor, a friend of the Neumanns, told police that Dale Neumann led Bible studies at his business, Monkey Mo Coffee Shop, and believed physical illness was due to sin, curable by prayer and by asking for forgiveness from God, the complaint said.

Wormgoor said he and his wife, Althea, were at the Neumann home when Madeline -- -- called Kara by her parents -- died. Wormgoor said he had urged the father to seek medical help and was told the illness "was a test of faith for the Neumann family and asked the Wormgoors to join them in praying for Kara to get well," the complaint said.

Althea Wormgoor said she "implored" the parents to seek medical help for the girl, the complaint said.

Leilani Neumann, 40, told the AP previously she never expected her daughter to die. The family believes in the Bible, which says healing comes from God, but they have nothing against doctors, she said.

Dale Neumann, 46, a former police officer, has said he has friends who are doctors and started CPR "as soon as the breath of life left" his daughter's body.

According to court documents, Leilani Neumann said in a written statement to police that she never considered taking the girl, who was being home-schooled, to a doctor.

"We just thought it was a spiritual attack and we prayed for her. My husband Dale was crying and mentioned taking Kara to the doctor and I said, 'The Lord's going to heal her,' and we continued to pray," she wrote.

The father told investigators he noticed his daughter was weak and slower for about two weeks but he attributed it to symptoms of the girl reaching puberty, the complaint said.

A day before Madeline died, according to the criminal complaint, the father wrote an e-mail with the headline, "Help our daughter needs emergency prayer!!!!." It said his daughter was "very weak and pale at the moment with hardly any strength."

The girl's grandmother, Evalani Gordon, told police that she learned her granddaughter could not walk or talk on March 22 and advised Leilani Neumann to take the girl to a doctor.

Gordon eventually contacted a daughter-in-law in California who called police on a non-emergency line to report the girl was in a coma and needed medical help. An ambulance was dispatched shortly before some friends in the home called 911 to report the girl had stopped breathing, authorities said.

One relative told police that the girl's mother believed she "died because the devil is trying to stop Leilani from starting her own ministry," the complaint said.

The Neumanns said they moved to Weston, a suburb of Wausau in central Wisconsin, from California about two years ago to open the coffee shop and be closer to other relatives. The couple has three other children, ages 13 to 16; they are living with relatives.

The family does not belong to an organized religion or faith, Leilani Neumann has said.

Everest Metro Police Chief Dan Vergin said the parents once belonged to the Lighthouse Pentecostal Church but later became what he called religious "isolationists" involved in a prayer group of five people.

"They have gone out on their own," he said. "... They have a very narrow view of Scripture and I would say not many people hold to that narrow of view."

In March, an Oregon couple who belong to a church that preaches against medical care and believes in treating illness with prayer were charged with manslaughter and criminal mistreatment in the death of their 15-month-old daughter. The toddler died March 2 of bronchial pneumonia and a blood infection that could have been treated with antibiotics, the state medical examiner's office said.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/04/28/prayer.death.ap/index.html
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

Quote

Randall Wormgoor, a friend of the Neumanns, told police that Dale Neumann led Bible studies at his business, Monkey Mo Coffee Shop, and believed physical illness was due to sin, curable by prayer and by asking for forgiveness from God, the complaint said.


Wonder what this asshole is going to expect from ole' Gawd now that he's hopefully looking at the maximum of 25 years of serving Gawd in prison.  :mad: :mad:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

pariann

QuoteFalstad said the Neumanns have cooperated with investigators and are not under arrest. They have agreed to make an initial court appearance Wednesday, she said.

For what reason would anyone make a court appearance when they are being criminally investigated if they are not under arrest?   This must be a juvenile court hearing concerning the other children and CPS.  Which has nothing to do with the possible criminal charges that may be brought against them.  The statement is misleading.
Looks like I've come full circle.

dan foster

Quote from: pariann on April 29, 2008, 08:01:54 AM
For what reason would anyone make a court appearance when they are being criminally investigated if they are not under arrest?   This must be a juvenile court hearing concerning the other children and CPS.  Which has nothing to do with the possible criminal charges that may be brought against them.  The statement is misleading.

Better yet, why aren't they already in jail?  No sign, or indication, they have posted bail.
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

pariann

I don't know the legalities for medical neglect and religious beliefs.  What I do know is that no one agrees to go stand in front of a judge unless they have been charged with a crime, or at the very least accused of something.  In this case, I can pretty much bet, the children have been taken from them, and there is a court hearing to determine if they will be wards of the state or returned home.  Here in Madison County, I can tell you straight up, if there is a criminal investigation, they will not return the children they have in their custody until the criminal portion has been resolved.  Been there, done that, no one died.....THANK GOD!!
Looks like I've come full circle.

dan foster

Quote from: pariann on April 29, 2008, 11:08:45 AM
I don't know the legalities for medical neglect and religious beliefs.  What I do know is that no one agrees to go stand in front of a judge unless they have been charged with a crime, or at the very least accused of something.  In this case, I can pretty much bet, the children have been taken from them, and there is a court hearing to determine if they will be wards of the state or returned home.  Here in Madison County, I can tell you straight up, if there is a criminal investigation, they will not return the children they have in their custody until the criminal portion has been resolved.  Been there, done that, no one died.....THANK GOD!!

Children should be taken and never returned and they should both be sterilized.
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke