General Election 2016 - Trump v. Clinton

[parkerdivine]

BS as usual about churches hiding monies.

Really? Then show me where the Faith Based money is in your community...or ANY community for that matter..show the program being funded and show the money being given.   

With State AND federal government funding it, it shouldn't be hard for you to find.

http://www.theocracywatch.org/faith_base.htm

How Much Money?

How much are taxpayers paying for what Barry Lynn, Executive Director of American's United calls "federally subsidized employment discrimination?" According to Daniel Zwerdling who produced two programs on faith-based initiative for Bill Moyers TV show NOW in September, 2003, "administration spokesmen say they can't break down how much money has gone so far to religious groups .. they claim they don't keep that information."

The March, 2004, issue of Church and State reports that the "Faith Czar" Jim Towey announced to reporters that $40 billion dollars was now available to religious charities.

By studying White House press releases and the White House web site, Daniel Zwerdling found that religious groups could apply to more than a hundred federal programs that gave out more than $65 billion. In addition, religious groups ccould apply for more money through state-administered programs.

From the Washington Post, January 4, 2005:

.. in 2003, groups dubbed "faith-based" received $1.17 billion in grants from federal agencies, according to documents provided by the White House to the Associated Press.

That's not enough, said H. James Towey, director of the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives. An additional $40 billion in federal money is given out by state governments, he said..

This is the text of an executive order signed by Bush on June 1.

On September 22, 2003, the White House announced new rules making $28 billion available to religious charities that proselytize and discriminate in hiring. Susan Jacoby, director of the Center for Inquiry in Metro New York claims "The White House has taken what may be its boldest step yet to blur the constitutional separation of church and state." While the White House announced these controversial new rules, the media hardly paid attention.

While religious charities receive billions of dollars, federal programs are experiencing funding cuts. The largest federally funded after-school program, the $1 billion-a-year 21st Century Community Learning Centers program is threatened with a budget reduction of $400 million for the Fiscal Year 2004. The resulting cuts in Washington D.C. alone could eliminate after-school services for 2,902 District children.

As reported in the Washington Post, Congress has ordered more than $3 million in grants since 2001 earmarked for respected former Redskins cornerback Darrell Green's Youth Life Foundation, with the goal in part of opening more Green learning centers here and in other cities. But his center is directly serving only 38 kids, in a city where 35,000 live in poverty.

From Church   and   State editorial, March 9, 2004:
The Corporation for National and Community Service has allocated $324,000 in Americorps funding for staffing at four daycare centers run by the Roman Catholic Diocese of Providence.

But The Children's Crusade, a mentoring program that has won national honors, lost all its budget of half a million dollars. The group had hoped to partner 35 young adults with poor minority children. That won't be happening now.

Pence's corp group got millions from the state.

http://www.ibj.com/articles/55291-pence-awards-35m-contract-to-anti-abortion-charity-group

Talk about stealing and hiding money, here's an article to help you understand it better.

http://www.alternet.org/how-religious-organizations-abuse-government-programs-and-duck-taxes

Your own state sought funds for the little museum which says dinosaurs and man lived together..what's the name of that con game?

[Purplelady1040]

Churches are modern cults aimed at brainwashing.

Their political involvement - if nothing else - should preclude their tax exempt status.

Government should not be in the business of subsidizing ANY religion.

Exactly and should pay taxes regardless where the money goes.

[Purplelady1040]

Really? Then show me where the Faith Based money is in your community...or ANY community for that matter..show the program being funded and show the money being given.   

With State AND federal government funding it, it shouldn't be hard for you to find.

http://www.theocracywatch.org/faith_base.htm

Pence's corp group got millions from the state.

http://www.ibj.com/articles/55291-pence-awards-35m-contract-to-anti-abortion-charity-group

Talk about stealing and hiding money, here's an article to help you understand it better.

http://www.alternet.org/how-religious-organizations-abuse-government-programs-and-duck-taxes

Your own state sought funds for the little museum which says dinosaurs and man lived together..what's the name of that con game?

Idiot that you are, they have financial statements sent out and it shows where money goes. Good try on trying to phish for information as usual but it won't work. If you were half as smart as you would try to be you would still be stupid.
By the way, dumbass that you are we aren't talking about museums but churches. Try to keep up if you are capable.

[The Troll]

  You know something Purple Lady, we are more alike than apart.   

[Purplelady1040]

  You know something Purple Lady, we are more alike than apart.   

I thought you would be interested in what I told you.

[Y]

No where does it show where the current law REQUIRES you to register.  Did you see it and I missed it?

Not only are you to lazy to read, you're too lazy and unwilling to Google anything that undermines your stupid conspiracy theories.

Here's another post you won't pay any attention to:

http://banksbrower.com/2014/04/18/indianas-sex-and-violent-offender-registry-and-the-crimes-that-require-it/

SEX OFFENDER REGISTRY CHART:

             As a general matter, if you are classified as a "sex or violent offender," registration is required for 10 years. If classified as a "sexually violent predator" or in select other situations, registration is required for life.

[parkerdivine]

Not only are you to lazy to read, you're too lazy and unwilling to Google anything that undermines your stupid conspiracy theories.

Here's another post you won't pay any attention to:

http://banksbrower.com/2014/04/18/indianas-sex-and-violent-offender-registry-and-the-crimes-that-require-it/

SEX OFFENDER REGISTRY CHART:

             As a general matter, if you are classified as a "sex or violent offender," registration is required for 10 years. If classified as a "sexually violent predator" or in select other situations, registration is required for life.

I'm neither lazy nor unwilling. But for you to accept that, you'd have to admit you were wrong about me all the time...and you certainly don't have the manhood for that.

I was wrong.  I presented false information.

[me]

Idiot that you are, they have financial statements sent out and it shows where money goes. Good try on trying to phish for information as usual but it won't work. If you were half as smart as you would try to be you would still be stupid.
By the way, dumbass that you are we aren't talking about museums but churches. Try to keep up if you are capable.

The thing with me is are they reporting all the money they collect since a lot of it is given in cash with no record to prove how much it was. Not saying they would do that but after shaking hands with some I count my fingers when done and feel my back. 

[Y]

You're right, but assigning my motive is completely off.  You don't know me, Y, so your assessment of me neither hits the mark or even tries to. Again, if you can't respond without being this ahole who thinks it is so important to attack my character, don't respond...as I won't respond back to one more instance of this.

Don't be ridiculous.

1) I - and others here - have known you for well over a decade and, unless you're going to claim you act differently online than you do IRL, we 'know' you.

2) I will respond to you in whatever manner seems appropriate to the content of your posts and within the forum guidelines.

3) I won't be fazed in any regard if you choose not to respond to me, and if you choose that line it won't place me under any obligation to ignore any of the tripe you post.

Have a good one.   

[The Troll]

The thing with me is are they reporting all the money they collect since a lot of it is given in cash with no record to prove how much it was. Not saying they would do that but after shaking hands with some I count my fingers when done and feel my back. 

  How about a few fact about the god fearing preachers.       

  Jole Osteen your Sunday morning preacher   Is worth $40 million.  He is paid $7.5 million a year and he lives in a $10.5 million mansion.  God sure is giving him a good life conning his flock.   

[parkerdivine]

  How about a few fact about the god fearing preachers.       

  Jole Osteen your Sunday morning preacher   Is worth $40 million.  He is paid $7.5 million a year and he lives in a $10.5 million mansion.  God sure is giving him a good life conning his flock.   

Well now, The Troll.....Olsteen is part of that good ol Born Again Evangelism..the group that has rewritten the Christian bible over 15 to make sure none of that nasty "helping the poor" remains. They say THEIR god loves the rich...hates the poor...why , they say, even CHRIST was given gold when he was born....

pretty screwed up and counter to what Christianity teaches but it apparently makes people feel good to judge others, not help the poor...and worship the rich.

So, for many born again evangelicals...Olsteen is nothing more than loved by God...on accounta he's rich.

[Palehorse]

  How about a few fact about the god fearing preachers.       

  Jole Osteen your Sunday morning preacher   Is worth $40 million.  He is paid $7.5 million a year and he lives in a $10.5 million mansion.  God sure is giving him a good life conning his flock.   

Preying on the desperate is their stock in trade. Fleece them and let GAWD sort them out.

[The Troll]

Preying on the desperate is their stock in trade. Fleece them and let GAWD sort them out.

  And another thing, I am so god damn sick of the platitudes of these politicians, especially Pence saying I will pray for you or pray for these poor people.  Anyone who who has a brain surely knows that praying don't work and it don't cost the person who says it a god damn thing.  It's all pure bullshit.   

[Henry Hawk]

  How about a few fact about the god fearing preachers.       

  Jole Osteen your Sunday morning preacher   Is worth $40 million.  He is paid $7.5 million a year and he lives in a $10.5 million mansion.  God sure is giving him a good life conning his flock.   

I'm with ya on this guy........he is a scam artist!  I only watched him a couple of times to see right through him.......but, he sure has a bunch fooled.......he fills up an arena!
Another thing I have noted on him is that he NEVER quotes scripture.........he swings his bible around but never quotes a word from it!  He always has a "Feel Good" message to make everyone the warm & fuzzies.....so they whip out their billfolds and purses.....

[The Troll]

I'm with ya on this guy........he is a scam artist!  I only watched him a couple of times to see right through him.......but, he sure has a bunch fooled.......he fills up an arena!
Another thing I have noted on him is that he NEVER quotes scripture.........he swings his bible around but never quotes a word from it!  He always has a "Feel Good" message to make everyone the warm & fuzzies.....so they whip out their billfolds and purses.....

                         Amen brother Hawk.