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General Election 2016 - Trump v. Clinton

Started by Locutus, June 08, 2016, 02:30:20 PM

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Exterminator

We read that bullshit when you posted the link to it the first time.  It's garbage and you're gullible.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on July 12, 2016, 12:48:16 PM
We read that bullshit when you posted the link to it the first time.  It's garbage and you're gullible.

I notice the libs on here always make sure they stick together.......(we).....it is easy to act big on this forum....it is all liberal.  You need to get out into the real world....it isn't as liberal as it once was........people are coming out of the wood work right now, who are sick and tired of shit, that is why Trump is gaining strength.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 12, 2016, 01:05:08 PM
I notice the libs on here always make sure they stick together.......(we).....it is easy to act big on this forum....it is all liberal.

Intelligent, educated people prefer the company of people like them much in the same way as rednecks do.

QuoteYou need to get out into the real world....it isn't as liberal as it once was...

Out here in the real world, it is becoming more liberal every day.  I know you don't want to face facts but the reign of rural, white, christian voters is over and it's never coming back.  When you finally realize that your party is dead, go look in the mirror at one of the people that caused its demise and be proud that you finally actually did something positive for your country.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

libby

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 12, 2016, 01:05:08 PM
I notice the libs on here always make sure they stick together.......(we).....it is easy to act big on this forum....it is all liberal.  You need to get out into the real world....it isn't as liberal as it once was........people are coming out of the wood work right now, who are sick and tired of shit, that is why Trump is gaining strength.
:rolleyes:  Hey HH, out here in the real world, here's what Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg had to say about your hero, Donald Trump:

"I can't imagine what this place would be -- I can't imagine what the country would be with Donald Trump as our president," Ginsburg told the New York Times. "For the country it could be four years. For the court, it could be -- I don't even want to contemplate that."

She recalled a joke her late husband, Marty, used to make about unfortunate political outcomes: "Now it's time for us to move to New Zealand."

-- Did Ginsburg cross line with Trump remarks? by Aaron Blake and Robert Barnes, today's Washington Post

www.washingtonpost.com

All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

AbbyTC

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 12, 2016, 07:51:23 AM
Abbey don't lower yourself to that level........

HH, I don't get what you mean.  How am I lowering myself when Ex quotes the article me posts and then me says "Didn't read the article did ya?"? That's plain stupidity.
In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. Robert Frost

Perhaps the butterfly is proof that you can go through a great deal of darkness yet become something beautiful.

me

Quote from: AbbyTC on July 12, 2016, 10:43:54 PM
HH, I don't get what you mean.  How am I lowering myself when Ex quotes the article me posts and then me says "Didn't read the article did ya?"? That's plain stupidity.
Does what he posted even remotely resemble what I posted?
Trump 2020

AbbyTC

Quote from: me on July 12, 2016, 10:53:00 PM
Does what he posted even remotely resemble what I posted?

I'll say it again.  Ex quoted from the article you posted.  It's that simple.  Geesh, now I know why Ex and Locutus are always doing this:  :wall:
In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. Robert Frost

Perhaps the butterfly is proof that you can go through a great deal of darkness yet become something beautiful.

me

Quote from: AbbyTC on July 12, 2016, 11:10:03 PM
I'll say it again.  Ex quoted from the article you posted.  It's that simple.  Geesh, now I know why Ex and Locutus are always doing this:  :wall:
Look at what he posted and look at what was in the article I posted and tell me they're the same. Not even close.
Trump 2020

AbbyTC

Quote from: me on July 12, 2016, 11:11:20 PM
Look at what he posted and look at what was in the article I posted and tell me they're the same. Not even close.

Ex quoted from the article you posted!!  :mad:  If he quoted from the article, it was the same thing you posted.  That's how quoting works.  Seriously, can't you understand this?  Look what Ex said:  (I even underlined and bolded where he states where he got his information from to help you out.)

Quote from: Exterminator on July 11, 2016, 07:57:33 AM
And here, again, is the reality of Trump's wall from an engineering perspective.

In the link you provided, Trump states, "It's an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year after year," ostensibly suggesting that the cost of this wall would be no more than $10 billion.


In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. Robert Frost

Perhaps the butterfly is proof that you can go through a great deal of darkness yet become something beautiful.

me

Quote from: AbbyTC on July 12, 2016, 11:26:41 PM
Ex quoted from the article you posted!!  :mad:  If he quoted from the article, it was the same thing you posted.  That's how quoting works.  Seriously, can't you understand this?  Look what Ex said:  (I even underlined and bolded where he states where he got his information from to help you out.)
Then he went on to explain how so therefore what he, Ex, said made no sense when looking at the whole picture. Does it say anything about the length of the wall or what it's to be made from?


QuoteCompelling Mexico to Pay for the Wall

Introduction: The provision of the Patriot Act, Section 326 - the "know your customer" provision, compelling financial institutions to demand identity documents before opening accounts or conducting financial transactions is a fundamental element of the outline below. That section authorized the executive branch to issue detailed regulations on the subject, found at 31 CFR 130.120-121. It's an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year after year. There are several ways to compel Mexico to pay for the wall including the following:

Do you see anything in my article that states what type of wall or what length it will be? Those are figures taken out of thin air with no basis to go off of.

Quote from: Exterminator on July 11, 2016, 07:57:33 AM
And here, again, is the reality of Trump's wall from an engineering perspective.

In the link you provided, Trump states, "It's an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year after year," ostensibly suggesting that the cost of this wall would be no more than $10 billion.  Here another engineer estimates the cost of the materials involved based on national average costs:

Going off of materials estimate we have...
167,272,000 cubic yards of cast-in-place concrete at $93/cubic yard = $15,556,296,000
1,030,000 segments of 10' pre-cast panels at $17/panel = $17,510,000
2,500,000 tons of steel rebar at $600/ton = $1,500,000,000

Total Material Cost Estimate: $17,073,806,000


So, that's almost double before labor, machinery, logistical support, etc. are even factored in.  Trump's wall is a bullshit pipe dream that will never be built.  Anyone who believes otherwise is an idiot and really, really bad at math.
Trump 2020

Exterminator

Dear god, can anyone seriously be this fucking stupid?

I read the bullshit from the link you posted to Trump's website and I quoted his words.  I then provided a link to a different article that discusses exactly why what Trump suggests as it relates to that wall is not feasible.

If you're too senile to keep up, maybe you should stay out of grown up's conversations.   :rolleyes:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Quote from: Exterminator on July 13, 2016, 08:04:53 AM
Dear god, can anyone seriously be this fucking stupid?

I read the bullshit from the link you posted to Trump's website and I quoted his words.  I then provided a link to a different article that discusses exactly why what Trump suggests as it relates to that wall is not feasible.

If you're too senile to keep up, maybe you should stay out of grown up's conversations.   :rolleyes:
You tried to pull it off as though you got your info from the link I posted and failed to post the link to where you got your info, which was not in what I posted, from. Had you posted a link showing where your info came from rather than misrepresenting by quoting info from the link I posted and trying to make like that info was in that article it would have made a difference. 
Trump 2020

Exterminator

Quote from: me on July 13, 2016, 12:38:43 PM
You tried to pull it off as though you got your info from the link I posted and failed to post the link to where you got your info, which was not in what I posted, from. Had you posted a link showing where your info came from rather than misrepresenting by quoting info from the link I posted and trying to make like that info was in that article it would have made a difference.

I did no such thing, you whack job.  Here is my original post which clearly contains 2 links to the information I posted (hint: the words that appear in blue are links):

Quote from: Exterminator on July 11, 2016, 07:57:33 AM
And here, again, is the reality of Trump's wall from an engineering perspective.

In the link you provided, Trump states, "It's an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year after year," ostensibly suggesting that the cost of this wall would be no more than $10 billion.  Here another engineer estimates the cost of the materials involved based on national average costs:

Going off of materials estimate we have...
167,272,000 cubic yards of cast-in-place concrete at $93/cubic yard = $15,556,296,000
1,030,000 segments of 10' pre-cast panels at $17/panel = $17,510,000
2,500,000 tons of steel rebar at $600/ton = $1,500,000,000

Total Material Cost Estimate: $17,073,806,000


So, that's almost double before labor, machinery, logistical support, etc. are even factored in.  Trump's wall is a bullshit pipe dream that will never be built.  Anyone who believes otherwise is an idiot and really, really bad at math.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Locutus

Quote from: Exterminator on July 13, 2016, 01:15:41 PM
I did no such thing, you whack job.  Here is my original post which clearly contains 2 links to the information I posted (hint: the words that appear in blue are links):


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:biggrin:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Exterminator

Quote from: Locutus on July 13, 2016, 01:24:48 PM
:wall: :wall: :wall: :wall:

:biggrin:

I honestly don't think that she knows that blue text indicates a link which means that we've been posting links to information for years that she's never seen.  Disturbing but it sure would explain a lot! 

"That's not how this works.  That's not how any of this works."  :biggrin:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.