General Election 2016 - Trump v. Clinton

[Palehorse]

The problem with your party is that they, like you, never learn from their mistakes.  Rather than taking something away from your past failures and making changes, you all have actually doubled up on the strategy that caused you to lose previous elections.  It's almost be funny if it weren't so pathetic.

Yup! Amazing how they cannot see the forest for the trees isn't it?

That's so true.  And now, in the candidacy of Trump, they're reaping what they've sown. 

Indeed. Only when they lose it will be 4 - 8 more years of a do nothing congress; once again based upon a mash of sour grapes. These people will truly cut their noses off to spite their faces. They will nurture the rapid decline of this nation no matter who wins this election, and blame it upon the winner.

They believe themselves to be above the legal authorities in this nation and will not accept any adjudication that does not directly support their twisted world view. 

[Palehorse]

I'm going with 53 pages by the time the election is decided.

We are up to 5 pages with just over 3 months to go. . . 

[Exterminator]

Only when they lose it will be 4 - 8 more years of a do nothing congress; once again based upon a mash of sour grapes.

Maybe, maybe not.  The division in their party will surely affect the down-ballot, to what extent is anyone's guess.

[Palehorse]

Maybe, maybe not.  The division in their party will surely affect the down-ballot, to what extent is anyone's guess.

What truly needs to happen is for each and every single incumbent to be elected out of office within the next several election cycles. And in the process a clear, loud, and consistent demand for term limits upon each and every single congressional office in this nation! 

They want some cuts? Lets stop this lifetime salary crap for congress and let them go out and seek employment after their term is over. 

[The Troll]

   

    This next election will be the largest landslide win for the Democrats in the history of America.   

[me]

   

    This next election will be the largest landslide win for the Democrats in the history of America.   

Depends on how many dead people vote. 

[The Troll]

Depends on how many dead people vote. 

  We all know that one dead head will vote Republican and that's you    

[me]

Here ya go.......

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/pay-for-the-wall

[libby]

This is for Me and HH: "The republican candidate is one of the few politicians in the United States capable of making Hillary Clinton appear sympathetic on the worst day of her campaign. Donald Trump -- again falling off the teleprompter wagon -- accused the attorney general of bribery, obsessively defended an anti-Semitic meme and praised Saddam Hussein for being "really good at killing terrorists." On the evidence of Halabja, Hussein was also really good at killing women and children with mustard gas, tabun and VX. "Saddam Hussein throws a little gas," Trump mocked in December, "everyone goes crazy, 'Oh, he's using gas!"

Just to be clear: Any leader who makes light of the largest chemical weapons attack on civilians in history -- which, among other horrors sent children into convulsions and respiratory failure -- has a moral screw loose, a sickness of the soul. Paul Ryan and Reince Priebus, meet the man you have endorsed."

From: The Triumph of Cynicism, by Michael Gerson (R) 
The Washington Post, Friday, July 8, 2016

www.washingtonpost.com

[Exterminator]

Here ya go.......

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/pay-for-the-wall

And here, again, is the reality of Trump's wall from an engineering perspective.

In the link you provided, Trump states, "It's an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year after year," ostensibly suggesting that the cost of this wall would be no more than $10 billion.  Here another engineer estimates the cost of the materials involved based on national average costs:

Going off of materials estimate we have...
167,272,000 cubic yards of cast-in-place concrete at $93/cubic yard = $15,556,296,000
1,030,000 segments of 10' pre-cast panels at $17/panel = $17,510,000
2,500,000 tons of steel rebar at $600/ton = $1,500,000,000

Total Material Cost Estimate: $17,073,806,000

So, that's almost double before labor, machinery, logistical support, etc. are even factored in.  Trump's wall is a bullshit pipe dream that will never be built.  Anyone who believes otherwise is an idiot and really, really bad at math.

[me]

Didn't read the article did ya?

[Exterminator]

Didn't read the article did ya?

Yes, I did, stupid.  How else would I have quoted it?  Did you?  Did you bother to read either of the articles which illustrate how infeasible this wall is?

[me]

Yes, I did, stupid.  How else would I have quoted it?  Did you?  Did you bother to read either of the articles which illustrate how infeasible this wall is?

Hey dumb ass why doesn't it make sense if Mexico is going to lose revenue and lots of it? What you put forth is nothing but guess work, costwise, on what he plans to do so therefore not set in stone as an absolute. Hum, seems like old Hill was for the wall at one time when she thought it benifited her. Is she racist for the statements she made to mention another thing that's been said of Trump? I really think you should watch both of these.
https://www.youtube.com/v/kDvEgV8AzP4



https://www.youtube.com/v/Ezaw-g6TIQI

[Henry Hawk]

All I can say is, Trump in most of his ventures, comes in UNDER budget and AHEAD of schedule.  He is a highly successful businessman, and building things are his area of expertise.  If he says he can do it, then I have no reason not to give him the benefit of the doubt....If he doesn't, he will have to answer for it.   

[Exterminator]

All I can say is, Trump in most of his ventures, comes in UNDER budget and AHEAD of schedule.

Please prove this.

If he says he can do it, then I have no reason not to give him the benefit of the doubt....If he doesn't, he will have to answer for it.

Then you're as stupid as she is.  Trump can't shit rebar and concrete.