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Started by Henry Hawk, February 16, 2016, 12:35:26 PM

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Henry Hawk

Just curious but.....Hillary won Iowa by a half a percent and lost New Hampshire by 40 points so how is it that she has a 300 delegate lead?  In election parlance that's called being rigged.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


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Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 16, 2016, 12:35:26 PM
Just curious but.....Hillary won Iowa by a half a percent and lost New Hampshire by 40 points so how is it that she has a 300 delegate lead?  In election parlance that's called being rigged.

You really don't understand the process very well; do you?  Hide and watch how it all plays out at the Republican National Convention because it will be an ugly display.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 16, 2016, 12:35:26 PM
Just curious but.....Hillary won Iowa by a half a percent and lost New Hampshire by 40 points so how is it that she has a 300 delegate lead?  In election parlance that's called being rigged.

Al Gore beat G.W. Bush by 540,000 popular votes in the 2000 election. Does that mean the election was rigged?
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Henry Hawk

Either you can't or won't answer the question.........hmm, interesting.  :yes:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 16, 2016, 02:31:24 PM
Either you can't or won't answer the question.........hmm, interesting.  :yes:

We're trying to teach you to fish.  Are you familiar with superdelegates?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on February 16, 2016, 02:47:04 PM
We're trying to teach you to fish.  Are you familiar with superdelegates?
yep, and it is just another way the democrats have to 'stack' the deck to get who they want instead of going with the will of the people, who VOTE.

the republicans don't do that shit...and that is exactly what it is.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

Quote from: Exterminator on February 16, 2016, 02:47:04 PM
We're trying to teach you to fish. 


  Trying to teach Henry to fish?  :haha:  That is like when scientist thought they would make a better fish.  They took a Polk and a Musky and breed them together.  Well the fish really tasted good and they fought like hell.   :yes: :smile:  But the problem they had was, they had to teach each fish to swim.   :wink: :yes: :smile:

                                                    Swim Henry, swim!   :shrk:

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 16, 2016, 03:52:30 PM
yep, and it is just another way the democrats have to 'stack' the deck to get who they want instead of going with the will of the people, who VOTE.

the republicans don't do that shit...and that is exactly what it is.

Really?  Would you like to put your money where your mouth is and place a bet?  If Trump is leading going into the national convention but has less than 50% of the delegates, he will not be your party's nominee.  In fact, given the way the system works, it is entirely possible that the eventual nominee could be someone who isn't even in the current primaries.  Your statement that, "the republicans don't do that shit," only underscores how little you understand about our election process.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on February 17, 2016, 08:25:21 AM
Really?  Would you like to put your money where your mouth is and place a bet?  If Trump is leading going into the national convention but has less than 50% of the delegates, he will not be your party's nominee.  In fact, given the way the system works, it is entirely possible that the eventual nominee could be someone who isn't even in the current primaries.  Your statement that, "the republicans don't do that shit," only underscores how little you understand about our election process.

Give me a real life example in recent times where a nominee won the primary that didn't win the states.  It would be unprecedented at the least.

Give me a logical reason as to WHY the democrats feel it is important to have a SUPER DELEGATE. Why can't they just let the people who vote decide?  It is indeed SHIT.  PERIOD.  And the republican party doesn't to that.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 17, 2016, 08:50:48 AM
Why can't they just let the people who vote decide? 

This is EXACTLY why I asked what I did yesterday and you didn't answer. "Al Gore beat G.W. Bush by 540,000 popular votes in the 2000 election. Does that mean the election was rigged?"
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 17, 2016, 08:50:48 AM
Give me a real life example in recent times where a nominee won the primary that didn't win the states.  It would be unprecedented at the least.

Unprecedented indeed but it can happen.

QuoteGive me a logical reason as to WHY the democrats feel it is important to have a SUPER DELEGATE. Why can't they just let the people who vote decide?  It is indeed SHIT.  PERIOD.  And the republican party doesn't to that.

Remember these words.  You can have them as a side with the crow you'll be eating in July.   :biggrin:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on February 17, 2016, 09:39:28 AM
Remember these words.  You can have them as a side with the crow you'll be eating in July.   :biggrin:

That is not really a logical reason.  I don't think you have one.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Bo D on February 17, 2016, 09:13:34 AM
This is EXACTLY why I asked what I did yesterday and you didn't answer. "Al Gore beat G.W. Bush by 540,000 popular votes in the 2000 election. Does that mean the election was rigged?"
No, Bush won the Electoral College as established by our forefathers, in the Constitution.  That has NOTHING to do with the primary votes and the "SUPER" delegates, that I am discussing.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 17, 2016, 10:34:39 AM
No, Bush won the Electoral College as established by our forefathers, in the Constitution.  That has NOTHING to do with the primary votes and the "SUPER" delegates, that I am discussing.

But you raised the question - "Why can't they just let the people who vote decide?" and I think it has implications beyond the primaries. If "the people who vote" decide a general election, then Bush wouldn't have been elected.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Bo D on February 17, 2016, 11:06:29 AM
But you raised the question - "Why can't they just let the people who vote decide?" and I think it has implications beyond the primaries. If "the people who vote" decide a general election, then Bush wouldn't have been elected.

Again, I see where you are going...that is for a different discussion as far as I am concerned.  I am talking on HOW is it Bernie, loses by a twat hair in Iowa and beat that dog crap out of her in NH (by 40%), in EVERY category (age, race, sex, ect) and she has 300 delegate lead....All because of Super Delegates........which seems to me to be very, very shady.....
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW