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Flags or Symbols of Hate and Racial Discrimination?

Started by Palehorse, June 23, 2015, 06:10:06 PM

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Palehorse

Quote from: Exterminator on June 26, 2015, 07:33:16 AM
The two forum clowns do that with virtually every subject here because they're good little Fox News minions.

Yup!
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Bo D

Quote from: me on June 25, 2015, 05:32:00 PM
There is still the fact that a democrat designed it and the party adopted it, check the links I posted. In spite of what ya'll chose to believe there are liberal racists they just try to baffle with B S and talk their way around it. The accuser is almost always the doer and that happens to be so in this case. We have a true divide and conquer thing going on and those of you who call yourselves "critical thinkers" don't even see it.

At least the "critical thinkers" are thinking.

Who gives a $hit about who designed the flag? What does that matter in the current scheme of things? The point is that it has become a symbol of hatred and racism.

Who designed the swastika? It was used for thousands of years as a symbol of good luck and is a sacred symbol in Hinduism. Would you fly it in your front yard?
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Y

Quote from: me on June 23, 2015, 10:50:15 PM
I've seen blacks wear it on their clothing and have it in the rear windows of their vehicles.

I call BS! 
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Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Y

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on June 24, 2015, 08:25:20 PM
Personally, I think there is a whole lot more wrong with the world than a 150 year old piece of fabric.
Children are hungry, there is poverty, income inequality and human trafficking.

My argument exactly concerning the American flag - it's nothing but a piece of fabric.

©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Y

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 25, 2015, 12:40:31 PM
Okay, just to prove my point that liberals are merely demagoguing the Charleston shooting for political points are NOW calling for "Gone with the Wind" to be chastised. 

Really...don't get me wrong, I never liked the movie....it is too long and boring, but it is STILL a classic film that won eight academy awards.....what is next?  The American Flag?

Regurgitating Breitbart et al, I see.   :rolleyes:

You should have gone to the original source and actually read the author's premise:

http://nypost.com/2015/06/24/gone-with-the-wind-should-go-the-way-of-the-confederate-flag/

If the Confederate flag is finally going to be consigned to museums as an ugly symbol of racism, what about the beloved film offering the most iconic glimpse of that flag in American culture?

Now tell us again how you do your research, think for yourself, and really aren't an idiot and mouthpiece for the RW noize machine.
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Y

Quote from: me on June 25, 2015, 05:32:00 PM
There is still the fact that a democrat designed it and the party adopted it, check the links I posted...

You know, that spiel just shows your ignorance of history. 

The Southern Democrats of the Reconstruction are not the Democrats of today.  The Republicans of the Civil War and Reconstruction are not the Republicans of today.  The parties effectively switched positions on race in the 1950s - 1960s, especially in the South.

With the advent of the Cold War and the rise of Republicans as conservatives/reactionaries with the influx of McCarthyism and John Birch Society ideology the Republican party took racism to its bosom.  That's not even to mention the influence of the Klan on the Republican party starting in the early 1900s.
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

me

Quote from: Y on June 30, 2015, 09:43:33 PM
You know, that spiel just shows your ignorance of history. 

The Southern Democrats of the Reconstruction are not the Democrats of today.  The Republicans of the Civil War and Reconstruction are not the Republicans of today.  The parties effectively switched positions on race in the 1950s - 1960s, especially in the South.

With the advent of the Cold War and the rise of Republicans as conservatives/reactionaries with the influx of McCarthyism and John Birch Society ideology the Republican party took racism to its bosom.  That's not even to mention the influence of the Klan on the Republican party starting in the early 1900s.
What a crock of B S.
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Exterminator

Quote from: me on June 30, 2015, 11:44:21 PM
What a crock of B S.

Now you're anti-history along with being anti-science and anti-literacy?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

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Bo D

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Exterminator

Quote from: Bo D on July 01, 2015, 11:03:39 AM
I suppose next you'll post a link to a website showing that Hitler was really a saint!

Absolutely clueless but it's understandable why people like her would like him as they are guilty of the same types of tactics: "The term McCarthyism, coined in 1950 in reference to McCarthy's practices, was soon applied to similar anti-communist activities. Today the term is used more generally in reference to demagogic, reckless, and unsubstantiated accusations, as well as public attacks on the character or patriotism of political opponents."
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

QuoteMcCarthy's enemies also followed his activities with a strong interest. Determined to stop McCarthy from spreading the truth about their communist agenda, many anti-American Hollywood insiders found willing accomplices in the budding liberal media. These propaganda-mongers added a new word to the dictionary, defining "McCarthyism" as a senseless political witch hunt. In fact, McCarthy had exposed scores of known communists in the capital without a single known false accusation. Joseph McCarthy's critics were never interested in the truth however.

QuoteThe VENONA Project files, declassified in 1995, provided indisputable evidence that nearly all of those McCarthy accused were traitors to America. Not surprisingly, the media ignored these documents completely, instead choosing to run yet another round of anti-McCarthy propaganda. As if that wasn't enough, in 2005 Hollywood released the greatest propaganda film since "Triumph of the Will", an anti-McCarthy slander picture known as "Good Night and Good Luck". Dead for fifty years, McCarthy's body has now been tarred, feathered, crucified, cremated, and his ashes shot into space by a leftist media who cannot handle the truth of their own miserable existence. The anti-McCarthy media claims the Senator wrongly implicated many. Despite their accusations, no critic has ever brought forth a single documented case of someone being wrongly accused by McCarthy.
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Exterminator

As is typical for you, you are getting all of your information from a single source whose agenda is to pretend McCarthy wasn't an idiot.  You might want to dig a little deeper before making yourself look more ignorant than you already have.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Bo D

Quote from: Exterminator on July 01, 2015, 11:49:38 AM
making yourself look more ignorant than you already have.

That would be a difficult task!  :icon_twisted:
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Purplelady1040

Quote from: Y on June 30, 2015, 09:43:33 PM
You know, that spiel just shows your ignorance of history. 

The Southern Democrats of the Reconstruction are not the Democrats of today.  The Republicans of the Civil War and Reconstruction are not the Republicans of today.  The parties effectively switched positions on race in the 1950s - 1960s, especially in the South.

With the advent of the Cold War and the rise of Republicans as conservatives/reactionaries with the influx of McCarthyism and John Birch Society ideology the Republican party took racism to its bosom.  That's not even to mention the influence of the Klan on the Republican party starting in the early 1900s.
Y is exactly right on this. Had a History professor in college who even said this almost exact same thing that Y posted  about the Dems and Republicans from the Civil War.