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Measles Epidemic/Immunization

Started by Exterminator, February 04, 2015, 09:23:02 AM

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Anne

Quote from: me on February 05, 2015, 01:35:25 PM
When I was a kid measles was just part of growing up and not considered dangerous unless let get out of hand by not treating it properly, aspirin, (that's all there was then for fever), bed rest, lotion for the itching, and sulfa drugs.  Now if let go to go in or get in your ears that was a different story.  There was also gamma globulin shots one could take to lessen the severity of both measles and chicken pox.  As a matter of fact when my kids got both I took the two who didn't have it yet for a shot and they both had a very light case, in fact they hardly broke out at all with either measles or chicken pox and barely any itching at all. As an adult both can be more dangerous though if you didn't get them as a child and are exposed so I agree with possibly taking the shot as an adult.

When you had measles did you have to stay in a dark room and weren't allowed to watch tv because it would damage your eyes? I was 5 and it was early spring, just getting nice outside and we were stuck inside. My son had chicken pox over spring school break when he was 5, he had pox all over except for the soles of his feet and the palms of his hands, he was a sight. We probably infected half of Disneyworld. We went to FL to visit my husband's parents and our son woke up the morning we had been to Disneyworld covered in chicken pox. Thankfully he didn't have any complications. We drove straight through coming home, only eating from drive through restaurants.
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Quote from: Bo D on February 05, 2015, 02:24:21 PM
Medicine wasn't very advanced in the 19th century.

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Quote from: Locutus on February 05, 2015, 06:35:13 PM
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me

Quote from: Anne on February 05, 2015, 05:23:17 PM
When you had measles did you have to stay in a dark room and weren't allowed to watch tv because it would damage your eyes? I was 5 and it was early spring, just getting nice outside and we were stuck inside. My son had chicken pox over spring school break when he was 5, he had pox all over except for the soles of his feet and the palms of his hands, he was a sight. We probably infected half of Disneyworld. We went to FL to visit my husband's parents and our son woke up the morning we had been to Disneyworld covered in chicken pox. Thankfully he didn't have any complications. We drove straight through coming home, only eating from drive through restaurants.
Yep, I had to stay in a dark room but fortunately for my kids they discovered that wasn't necessary so they didn't have to endure that.  What ticked me off was I had them during spring break, it was nice out and I didn't feel bad.  I wanted out of that bed sooooo bad and mom had a heck of a time keeping me down.   :biggrin:
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Anne

Correction on my post to me, it was the day AFTER we went to Disneyworld my son broke out in chicken pox. I think faster than I type, I never would have knowingly exposed anyone like that.
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Y

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 04, 2015, 05:02:57 PM
I would bet this measles outbreak is started from an illegal immigrant.

And here you are regurgitating yet another one of the stupid RW/TP talking points you were spoon fed and that has no basis in reality.

First, IIRC, Mexico is close to the vaccination rate of the good ole' USA.

Second, are you really stupid enough to think that people sneaking across the border with nothing but the clothes on their back are somehow rushing from the border to Disneyland - to pass on diseases that they've most likely been vaccinated against.

Are you really that far gone that you're unable to see just how ludicrous that is?

Third, even you should be able to see just how racist that RW/TP talking point you're spewing is.

Good grief!
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me

Quote from: Y on February 08, 2015, 01:11:36 PM
And here you are regurgitating yet another one of the stupid RW/TP talking points you were spoon fed and that has no basis in reality.

First, IIRC, Mexico is close to the vaccination rate of the good ole' USA.

Second, are you really stupid enough to think that people sneaking across the border with nothing but the clothes on their back are somehow rushing from the border to Disneyland - to pass on diseases that they've most likely been vaccinated against.

Are you really that far gone that you're unable to see just how ludicrous that is?

Third, even you should be able to see just how racist that RW/TP talking point you're spewing is.

Good grief!
Just because it was traced back to Disneyland doesn't mean that's where it originated ya know. The person who spread it at Disneyland had to have been in contact with it somewhere else to have it in the first place so that would not be the point of origination and could likely have been spread though being somewhere an illegal had been. There are also carriers who never actually get the disease if you remember correctly.  :wink:
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Exterminator

Quote from: me on February 08, 2015, 01:57:42 PM
Just because it was traced back to Disneyland doesn't mean that's where it originated ya know. The person who spread it at Disneyland had to have been in contact with it somewhere else to have it in the first place so that would not be the point of origination and could likely have been spread though being somewhere an illegal had been. There are also carriers who never actually get the disease if you remember correctly. 

So, even after the racist aspect of blaming illegals has been illustrated to you, you decide it's a good idea to double down on that strategy?
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Quote from: Exterminator on February 08, 2015, 02:20:20 PM
So, even after the racist aspect of blaming illegals has been illustrated to you, you decide it's a good idea to double down on that strategy?
Think about it Ex, how many years has it been since there was a case here even with some not being vaccinated and now that there are countless illegals crossing the border, bingo, it rears it's ugly head again. Now what is the logical thing to suspect? Race has nothing what-so-ever to do with it.
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Quote from: me on February 08, 2015, 03:46:59 PM
Think about it Ex, how many years has it been since there was a case here even with some not being vaccinated and now that there are countless illegals crossing the border, bingo, it rears it's ugly head again. Now what is the logical thing to suspect? Race has nothing what-so-ever to do with it.

That argument doesn't hold any water.

Statistically the odds of what you put forth are against it, and morally you are just trashing a race of people that differ from you. That you persist in such endeavors makes the application of Occam's Razor germane.
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Exterminator

Quote from: me on February 08, 2015, 03:46:59 PM
Think about it Ex, how many years has it been since there was a case here even with some not being vaccinated and now that there are countless illegals crossing the border, bingo, it rears it's ugly head again. Now what is the logical thing to suspect? Race has nothing what-so-ever to do with it.

There are hundreds of cases of measles in the U.S. ev ery year including several fairly significant outbreaks involving large groups of people.  These are increasing recently because idiots aren't having their children vaccinated.  The last major outbreak traced to people coming from foreign countries was in 2011 and most of the cases that came in from other countries came from France. 

Race should not have anything to do with it.  It is you who continues to suggest that the recent increase in cases must be from brown people coming from countries whose whose vaccination rates are better than our own because you see them as unclean and disease ridden...because you're a racist.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

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me

Quote from: Exterminator on February 08, 2015, 05:17:33 PM
There are hundreds of cases of measles in the U.S. ev ery year including several fairly significant outbreaks involving large groups of people.  These are increasing recently because idiots aren't having their children vaccinated.  The last major outbreak traced to people coming from foreign countries was in 2011 and most of the cases that came in from other countries came from France. 

Race should not have anything to do with it.  It is you who continues to suggest that the recent increase in cases must be from brown people coming from countries whose whose vaccination rates are better than our own because you see them as unclean and disease ridden...because you're a racist.
If things are so much better in their country why are they coming here? Also I ask again, what does the color of their skin have to do with anything? You're the one that keeps bringing that up not me. They are dark because of the pigment of their skin due to where they live and other than that they are the same as a white, black, or yellow person, we all bleed red ya know.
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Exterminator

Quote from: me on February 08, 2015, 05:34:02 PM
If things are so much better in their country why are they coming here?

Clearly not to get vaccinated.

QuoteAlso I ask again, what does the color of their skin have to do with anything? You're the one that keeps bringing that up not me.

I'm only pointing out how racist it is that you continue to blame immigrants from Central America when it isn't true.  Hell, you didn't even know that we routinely have measles outbreaks in this country and pretty much always have!  Maybe you should stick to subject about which you know something?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

Interesting...here's what the CDC has to say about Measles: "Measles is still common in many parts of the world including some countries in Europe, Asia, the Pacific, and Africa."

Please note that Central America is not on that list.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.