Another East Coast Mass Shooting Incident

[Henry Hawk]

I'm sort of with you on this.  The whole gun control issue butts up against the Second Amendment anyway, so that conversation is probably going to be moot unless they reinstate the assault weapons ban.  An outright ban on guns wouldn't pass constitutional muster in any court in the land, so I don't know why people are so up in arms about someone taking their guns away. 

That said, I would personally like more programs on the state and federal level directed to help people like the poor mother in that article Palehorse shared a few posts ago.  If you haven't read it, I would encourage you to do so.  That woman knows both she and her son are in trouble, but they can't get any help.  The system doesn't care.

She knows very well that her son, based on his current behavior, may just be the one we're reading about who's committed some future atrocity.  The signs are there, and she sees them.  There are countless others, all around the country, who are in similar circumstances, but can't get help.

That's where every resource we can provide needs to be directed.  These kids with mental health issues do show signs, and they're recognized by those close to them who don't bury their heads in the sand and ignore them.  They need help desperately.  Until we as a society find a way to effectively provide it, we're going to see more carnage.

Thanks PH for posting that link, and thanks Locutus for pointing it out....I too, agree that state and federal programs would be the best way to solve this problem.  Unfortunately, I think locking them up, is the only solution.  A prison as we know it is not the answer.  I think it is at the best interests of taxpayers to accomadate such individuals.  For they are the problem, not guns.

A very sad and alarming story that in my opinion, nails it head on.

[Locutus]

Holy cow!  Everyone's on the same page for once???   

[Henry Hawk]

Holy cow!  Everyone's on the same page for once??? 

Perhaps the end of the world REALLY IS GOING TO HAPPEN!!!

[Locutus]

Perhaps the end of the world REALLY IS GOING TO HAPPEN!!!

Don't get too excited just yet.  I see the Troll is posting. 

[Locutus]

 The Troll   11:57:43 AM    Posting in Another East Coast Mass Shooting Incident.

[Henry Hawk]

The Troll   11:57:43 AM    Posting in Another East Coast Mass Shooting Incident.

The world awaits......

[Locutus]

..... still waiting. 

[Henry Hawk]

I'm getting nervous now!! Friday will be here before we know it!!   

Troll, enough spellchecking.......... 

[The Troll]

Here's a link to the article in case you missed it the first time.  Read it, and then read it again.

http://gawker.com/5968818/i-am-adam-lanzas-mother

  Yep, I have seen this on Dr. Phil many times.  The little monster completely out of control.  The family can't get help from the state, no help from doctors.  The family has spent a fortune on them and are broke.

  The parents have the knifes locked up, their bed room door locked at night, because they can't not lock the kid up.  The house torn up, their brother and sisters are in danger and still no one will help.   

  I have seen many times that Dr. Phil has offered very expensive care camp for these kids.  The kids wouldn't go and by law they can't make them go.  They got to commit a crime.   But by the time these monster commit a crime it's murder.   

  What good would it have done in this case.  Back ground checks, registering the weapons, finger printing, picture taken.  The kid was smart, if he didn't have a gun he would have been smart enough to have something more deadly. 

  He stole the gun from his mother, who probably told him couldn't have it.  So he shot her 3 times in the face, this little bastard shot his mother in the face with a 223 caliber rifle three times.

  The only thing that could have helped in this case would have been, it the teachers or the principle had a gun.  The principle made a grab for the gun and missed and he shot her.  If she had a gun and knew how to use it, he would have been the dead one.   

  The teachers in Israel carry assault rifles on their backs when they're outside and a weapon handy in the class room.  So they can kill these crazy Ragheads when they try to kill the Jewish children and yes the kids don't seem to mind it.  Their lives depend on protection.   

  We need a place, if you want to call it a prison to put these kids, fine.  We need to get these kids out of society where they can't hurt themselves, they get medical and drug treatment and psychiatric treatment and they can't get out until cured.  That would be better than a bunch of ill thought out gun laws.  Let's stop the news media from making laws and money off of such crimes.   

[Henry Hawk]

Right on Troll!.....we DO agree on SOME things.

As you stated, Israel teachers carry and are prepared.  I think that is another solution, along with aiding these kids and parents.

[Exterminator]

If Adam Lanza's first victim, his mother, had been a gun owner, she could have stopped this tragedy before it started.

[followsthewolf]

If Adam Lanza's first victim, his mother, had been a gun owner, she could have stopped this tragedy before it started.

Not sure if this is irony. ??

[Exterminator]

Irony, sarcasm...whatever.

[Palehorse]

No parent wants to believe their child is a mass-murderer or serial killer, or that they are capable of such. And they will give their lives to prove it. (Right, wrong, or indifferent).

[followsthewolf]

Irony, sarcasm...whatever.

Yeah.

She sure was a dyed-in-the -wool doomsday prepper.

Gotta be the ultimate irony.