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[The Troll]

  The cave don't look that bad to me, unless it is full of water.  There is no place to get lost in it.  I wonder what they used in lighting to get that far back inside.  But, then and again, you can't fix stupid. 

[Exterminator]

You obviously haven't been to Squire Boon or Marengo then.
https://www.indianacavetrail.com/

Do you have to crawl to get into those caves?

[me]

Do you have to crawl to get into those caves?

No they are roomy. Here is another one. I've been through this one 4 times. The first time was a school trip in the 6th grade and the tour guides carried lanterns because there was no electric yet and when we went with the kids they had ran electricity and, although you could see things better, it wasn't as interesting. Of course as with all cave tours they turn the lights out to show what total darkness is like in all the caves. I've never been in one where they didn't do that.

http://www.greensburgdailynews.com/opinion/columns/re-opening-of-wyandotte-caves/article_7695c7fb-64ee-5673-b082-8a0354710e50.html

[Palehorse]

Happy birthday Jason Voorhees!

[Exterminator]

No they are roomy. Here is another one. I've been through this one 4 times. The first time was a school trip in the 6th grade and the tour guides carried lanterns because there was no electric yet and when we went with the kids they had ran electricity and, although you could see things better, it wasn't as interesting. Of course as with all cave tours they turn the lights out to show what total darkness is like in all the caves. I've never been in one where they didn't do that.

http://www.greensburgdailynews.com/opinion/columns/re-opening-of-wyandotte-caves/article_7695c7fb-64ee-5673-b082-8a0354710e50.html

Yeah, I don't mind those at all. 

[me]

Yeah, I don't mind those at all.

You should visit them sometime.

[The Troll]

You should visit them sometime.

  I have been several and when you see one, you seen them all.  cold, wet and can be very dark.    

[me]

  I have been several and when you see one, you seen them all.  cold, wet and can be very dark.    

Each cave has it's own unique beauty, Squire Boone has a waterfall for instance. The only cave I was ever in that was a huge disappointment was the one in Illinois and I don't think it's even open anymore. They had put a restaurant in the huge entryway which killed the formations in the cave and the guides knew nothing about the cave and only talked about Mark Twain during the cave tour.

[Palehorse]

I'm tired and this weather is exacerbating things. . .

[me]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/33609/real-reason-white-house-barred-cnn-reporter-joseph-curl?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=KenBlackwell
There is a video of the incident in the article


Here's The REAL Reason The White House Barred That CNN Reporter
To hear the liberal media tell it, the horrible Trump administration, bent on destroying the First Amendment, has barred a legitimate journalist from covering the White House.
Or as The New York Times put it: "The White House barred a CNN journalist from attending a public appearance by President Trump in the Rose Garden on Wednesday, an apparent act of retaliation that drew immediate rebuke from news organizations and signaled the latest escalation of Mr. Trump's hostilities toward the news media."
But once again, that's not the full story (and just for the record, a lie of omission is still a lie).
The Times quotes Kaitlan Collins, a White House correspondent for CNN, saying she was chastised for asking "inappropriate" questions. "They did not like the questions I asked President Trump about the news of the day," Collins said.
That, she claimed, led to the White House barring her from the following press event in the White House Rose Garden.
But White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders offered a very different account.
"At the conclusion of a press event in the Oval Office a reporter shouted questions and refused to leave despite repeatedly being asked to do so," Sanders said in a statement. "Subsequently, our staff informed her she was not welcome to participate in the next event, but made clear that any other journalist from her network could attend."
She "refused to leave" the Oval Office.
Far different from the versions you're hearing in the MSM. And Collins herself noted that CNN wasn't barred from the event. She said on CNN that she was told, "We're not banning your network. Your photographers can still come. Your producers can still come. But you are not invited to the Rose Garden today."
The Times reports that in the Oval Office, Collins shouted: "Did Michael Cohen betray you, Mr. President?" and then: "Mr. President, are you worried about what Michael Cohen is about to say to the prosecutors?" She actually asked six questions (lie of omission).
But it wasn't the questions Collins asked, it was the venue.
"To be clear, we support a free press and ask that everyone be respectful of the presidency and guests at the White House," Sanders said. Trump had just concluded an Oval Office meeting with European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker in the White House when the press was allowed in.
Having covered the White House for 12 years, I know a bit about this. To be sure, reporters do yell questions at the president all the time, say, on the White House lawn, at Andrews Air Force base, in a White House press conference or just about anywhere other than the Oval Office. And it's not only right for them to do so, it's their job, one the American people expect them to do.
In the Oval, though, reporters are expected to handle themselves with a bit of decorum. It's the man's office, after all, and the press was invited in. Yelling repeated questions at the president and refusing to leave is absolutely inappropriate.
Collins asked that fifth question twice, so six questions. In an Oval Office spray, it's cool to ask one question, maybe a second on your way out — but six?!
Just as fellow CNN White House correspondent Jim Acosta has been doing since Day 1 of the Trump administration, Collins is clearly trying to get famous by being "tough" on the president. But she's not being tough, she's being rude. Ask a question, maybe two, then get out.
So now, that's a new tactic by the press: Get into the Oval, then simply refuse to leave.
When Trump tires of the tactic (he will) and bars the entire press corps from his office, the MSM will be up in arms.
And when that happens, they should, perhaps, direct some of their ire toward Collins and Acosta. There's a way to do the job, a very difficult job, without being rude. Give it a try, White House press corps, you just might like it.

[The Troll]

  Rude?!!!  Donald Trump is the rudest son of  bitch that America has had for president in its history.       

                       

[Exterminator]

There is a video of the incident in the article

Yes, a video that clearly shows that virtually none of the reporters present started leaving when first asked, despite how your (actual) fake news source attempts to present it.  If it was as this article presents it, why was she singled out for exclusion from the next event when the others were not?

BTW, even Fox News defended her.  Fox News, anchor Bret Baier read a statement from the network on their station: "Just because the White House is uncomfortable with a question regarding the news of the day doesn't mean the question isn't relevant and shouldn't be asked. This decision to bar a member of the press is retaliatory in nature and not indicative of an open and free press. We demand better. As a member of the White House press pool, Fox stands firmly with CNN on this issue of access."

Fox News President Jay Wallace issued his own statement, reading: "We stand in strong solidarity with CNN for the right to full access for our journalists as part of a free and unfettered press."

[The Troll]

  Trump tried to tell his wife that her television had to be on Fox News.  She said, she would have it on any station she wanted and she turned of CNN.        

[me]

  Trump tried to tell his wife that her television had to be on Fox News.  She said, she would have it on any station she wanted and she turned of CNN.        

Not true.

[The Troll]

Not true.

  I sure heard it on TV.  It happened on our big airplane.  You tell me why it isn't true.  I know I will believe you.      You never lie.