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Purplelady1040

#5025
June 11, 2015, 01:53:53 PM
Quote from: Locutus on June 11, 2015, 01:18:07 PM
Yup!  They have to be witnessed as well.
Yep, that is why I figured Thoroughbred racing doesn't do it! They want to make sure the stud is the actual stud!

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#5026
June 12, 2015, 04:01:50 PM
Quote from: Locutus on June 09, 2015, 05:30:15 PM
For anyone who missed watching American Pharoah win the Triple Crown this weekend, you can find the full race at this link:

Link

I told my wife during the hours long hoopla before the race that I thought it was odds on AP would win the TC.

One, because my cynical side said horse racing needed it to remain viable after years and recent disappointments.  Two, my intellectual side said that AP ran so well on that sloppy and muddy track, the 'Big Sandy' track wasn't going to be a problem, AND that AP had won going away and strong therefore the added distance shouldn't be a problem, AND AP had a jockey both experienced on that track and in the TC...

...I should have bet some money on him.   :biggrin:
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Sandy Eggo

#5027
June 12, 2015, 09:33:20 PM
It drives me crazy when people mix up "our" and "are".
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Sandy Eggo

#5028
June 12, 2015, 09:34:25 PM
Oh and horse racing is animal abuse ijs :yes:
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Palehorse

#5029
June 12, 2015, 09:38:33 PM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 12, 2015, 09:34:25 PM
Oh and horse racing is animal abuse ijs :yes:

A centuries long history of it. . .  :spooked:
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Exterminator

#5030
June 15, 2015, 08:02:06 AM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 12, 2015, 09:34:25 PM
Oh and horse racing is animal abuse ijs :yes:

Not as much as greyhound racing!
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Purplelady1040

#5031
June 15, 2015, 09:08:39 AM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 12, 2015, 09:34:25 PM
Oh and horse racing is animal abuse ijs :yes:
Yes, there is abuse in horse racing but not as much as in horse shows! Believe me the things to make your horse step higher in Tn. Walking and Saddlebred shows are horrible, in Arabian and Morgan shows they use very cruel halters to make the horses stretch the necks to look elegnat. Thoroughbred racing has come under a lot of scrutiny and now Thoroughbreds who tend to break down on the track or not perform as well as expected can be bought for next to nothing!
Greyhound racing is just as bad!

Purplelady1040

#5032
June 15, 2015, 09:55:36 AM
Elegant, LOL, tablet didn't catch that mistake and I didn't either!

Exterminator

#5033
June 15, 2015, 10:46:03 AM
Uh, I showed Morgans as a kid...to what halters are you referring?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Purplelady1040

#5034
June 15, 2015, 11:38:19 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on June 15, 2015, 10:46:03 AM
Uh, I showed Morgans as a kid...to what halters are you referring?
Chain type halters that they use. Morgan people don't use them as much as Arabian show people, although some have used them! I bet you didn't do yours that way! I will see if I can find a picture to show what I mean about Arabians.

Purplelady1040

#5035
June 15, 2015, 11:43:38 AM
Hope this works
See the metal braiding type halter that goes down the side. Show people jerk on it to make an Arabian stretch the neck!

Sandy Eggo

#5036
June 15, 2015, 12:03:27 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on June 15, 2015, 08:02:06 AM
Not as much as greyhound racing!

You're right.

None of it makes sense to me. You'd think they'd be treated like highly prized elite canine athletes. Then again, I don't agree that we should use animals for sport or show. I think there are probably a lot of really kind owners who treat their animals well, but it opens the door to abuse for some animals because humans tend to want to win despite what the animal must endure.
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Exterminator

#5037
June 15, 2015, 03:47:38 PM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on June 15, 2015, 12:03:27 PM
Then again, I don't agree that we should use animals for sport or show.

I can't agree with this.  I own a high-drive dog who was specifically bred to work.  He would not be happy if he didn't have a job to do and the sport of IPO (or schutzhund) gives him that outlet.  The favorite part of his day is when I come home from work and we head out to the field to train.  There are lots of other sports people and their dogs participate in depending on their breed and temperament...dock diving, flyball, lure coursing, agility, etc. and the dogs virtually all love what they're doing.  The dogs I feel sorry for are those who are little more than yard art or living rugs with whom owners do nothing.

Having said that, greyhound racing is not a sport; it is a gambling activity for whom the dogs are nothing more than a disposable commodity.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Purplelady1040

#5038
June 15, 2015, 04:12:14 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on June 15, 2015, 03:47:38 PM
I can't agree with this.  I own a high-drive dog who was specifically bred to work.  He would not be happy if he didn't have a job to do and the sport of IPO (or schutzhund) gives him that outlet.  The favorite part of his day is when I come home from work and we head out to the field to train.  There are lots of other sports people and their dogs participate in depending on their breed and temperament...dock diving, flyball, lure coursing, agility, etc. and the dogs virtually all love what they're doing.  The dogs I feel sorry for are those who are little more than yard art or living rugs with whom owners do nothing.

Having said that, greyhound racing is not a sport; it is a gambling activity for whom the dogs are nothing more than a disposable commodity.
I agree Ex. Even horses were bred to work whether it is racing, showing, trail riding or rounding cattle up. Some dogs are the same way! I don't agree with the gambling of animals!

Sandy Eggo

#5039
June 15, 2015, 05:26:38 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on June 15, 2015, 03:47:38 PM
I can't agree with this.  I own a high-drive dog who was specifically bred to work.  He would not be happy if he didn't have a job to do and the sport of IPO (or schutzhund) gives him that outlet.  The favorite part of his day is when I come home from work and we head out to the field to train.  There are lots of other sports people and their dogs participate in depending on their breed and temperament...dock diving, flyball, lure coursing, agility, etc. and the dogs virtually all love what they're doing.  The dogs I feel sorry for are those who are little more than yard art or living rugs with whom owners do nothing.

Having said that, greyhound racing is not a sport; it is a gambling activity for whom the dogs are nothing more than a disposable commodity.

Maybe "sport" was the wrong word to use. I was thinking more along the lines of "racing" because I run, I see racing as a "sport". Or maybe "show" was the wrong word? I was thinking of the beauty contests.

When I was growing up, my family owned hunting dogs and those dogs loved to hunt and train. They also received better treatment than I did. :biggrin:
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