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Republican Party, Teabag Party and the Libertarian Party absolutely SUCK!

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Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 18, 2011, 12:10:45 PM
then you are saying that ALL NON-Citizens have NEVER got any medicaid benefits?

if they did, then you are a liar, spreading mis-information.....

When will you learn to read? I quoted the regulations from a gov't website.

"You MUST be a US citizen or a lawfully admitted immigrant to get Medicaid."
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Olias on November 18, 2011, 12:44:43 PM
When will you learn to read? I quoted the regulations from a gov't website.

"You MUST be a US citizen or a lawfully admitted immigrant to get Medicaid."

but that is STILL NOT TRUE!!.......you know as well as I do.......the fraud commited by immigrants to obtain services is rampart...

Houston Chronicle reported in 2005 that 70 percent of the births in Houston and Dallas public hospitals were to undocumented immigrants...

http://www.chron.com/news/article/Immigration-may-dominate-Texas-Legislature-1669485.php

The Medicaid Strike Force has recovered over $371 million in fraudulent Medicaid claims..


Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/independent-in-columbia/how-much-will-covering-health-care-for-illegals-cost-rampant-medicaid-fraud-gives-an-indication#ixzz1e54f63pj
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 18, 2011, 12:56:32 PM
but that is STILL NOT TRUE!!.......you know as well as I do.......the fraud commited by immigrants to obtain services is rampart...

Houston Chronicle reported in 2005 that 70 percent of the births in Houston and Dallas public hospitals were to undocumented immigrants...

http://www.chron.com/news/article/Immigration-may-dominate-Texas-Legislature-1669485.php

This article doesn't say anything at all about Medicaid but it does say that illegals are responsible for up to $97 million in unreimbursed health care costs, i.e., not Medicaid fraud.

QuoteThe Medicaid Strike Force has recovered over $371 million in fraudulent Medicaid claims..


Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/independent-in-columbia/how-much-will-covering-health-care-for-illegals-cost-rampant-medicaid-fraud-gives-an-indication#ixzz1e54f63pj

This article talks about illegals and about rampant Medicaid fraud but fails to explain how, exactly, the illegals are obtaining benefits under a program for which they must apply when they don't meet the requirements?

It attempts to explain this as a result of H.R. 3693 (sic): "In a previous article I mentioned H.R. 3693, a bill introduced by the Democrats that has greatly contributed to Medicaid fraud. Before that bill became law proof of citizenship was required when appying for Medicaid. H.R. 3693 changed that when it was passed in 2007."

I quit reading after that paragraph because, as has already been pointed out here...twice...that bill never became law, ergo, the entire article is a fucking lie.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Bo D

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Olias on November 18, 2011, 01:47:36 PM
BINGO!

Seems to me that it is only "Lies" when YOU guys disagree with it............PROVE to me where the LIES are in this ENTIRE article.....

do it are YOU MUST BE LIARS!

show me the lies....with facts to support YOUR reasons....or STFU!
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on November 18, 2011, 02:22:31 PM
Seriously?  LMAO...wow, uh...I'm speechless...   :rolleyes:

You are NOW saying the entire article is a lie................is it or isn't it?  Or are YOU just lying?  which is it?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 18, 2011, 02:15:23 PM
Seems to me that it is only "Lies" when YOU guys disagree with it............PROVE to me where the LIES are in this ENTIRE article.....

do it are YOU MUST BE LIARS!

show me the lies....with facts to support YOUR reasons....or STFU!

If you could just follow along, you could see that we have already shown the lie.

Your article says .....

"In a previous article I mentioned H.R. 3693, a bill introduced by the Democrats that has greatly contributed to Medicaid fraud. Before that bill became law proof of citizenship was required when appying for Medicaid. H.R. 3693 changed that when it was passed in 2007."

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-3693
H.R. 3693: Ensuring the Future Physician Workforce Act of 2009
This bill never became law.

In just in case we admit that the doofus who wrote the article really meant H.R. 3963
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-3963
H.R. 3963: Children's Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act of 2007
This bill never became law.


NEXT!!!!!
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Bo D

Quote from: Exterminator on November 18, 2011, 02:22:31 PM
Seriously?  LMAO...wow, uh...I'm speechless...   :rolleyes:

Yeah .... I know, right? When confronted with hard, cold facts he tends to go off the deep end.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Exterminator

Quote from: Olias on November 18, 2011, 02:31:50 PM
If you could just follow along, you could see that we have already shown the lie.

Your article says .....

"In a previous article I mentioned H.R. 3693, a bill introduced by the Democrats that has greatly contributed to Medicaid fraud. Before that bill became law proof of citizenship was required when appying for Medicaid. H.R. 3693 changed that when it was passed in 2007."

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-3693
H.R. 3693: Ensuring the Future Physician Workforce Act of 2009
This bill never became law.

In just in case we admit that the doofus who wrote the article really meant H.R. 3963
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-3963
H.R. 3963: Children's Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act of 2007
This bill never became law.


NEXT!!!!!

And just in case you're still having trouble grasping the obvious, the entire article is predicated on that bill having become law which, again, it did not.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Locutus

Quote from: Exterminator on November 18, 2011, 02:40:02 PM
And just in case you're still having trouble grasping the obvious, the entire article is predicated on that bill having become law which, again, it did not.

Still tryin', eh?  :biggrin:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

so you are still sticking to your guns with your comment....You MUST be a US citizen or a lawfully admitted immigrant to get Medicaid.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 18, 2011, 04:57:19 PM
so you are still sticking to your guns with your comment....You MUST be a US citizen or a lawfully admitted immigrant to get Medicaid.

That's what the law says.

https://www.cms.gov/medicaideligibility/
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Locutus

One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson