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Republican Party, Teabag Party and the Libertarian Party absolutely SUCK!

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Exterminator

Quote from: Anne on November 17, 2011, 03:20:09 PM
Medicare was formed exactly for the reason that older people are not as able to work and provide for themselves and with the decline of the family unit there are many who have no help. Younger people should be able to work and provide for themselves, and I know it isn't easy now. It never was as easy as some people think.

Were you ever self em[ployed and responsible for paying your own insurance premiums?  They can be pretty salty.

QuoteMaybe we should all get the same insurance the President gets. Then we would all be good.

Do you want his stress as well?
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Bo D

Quote from: me on November 17, 2011, 02:22:40 PM
Then I guess they'd better start paying everyone back what they put into it and quit charging for the medicare coverage 'cause if you don't pay in you sure as hell don't get it.  Remember, that money is supposed to already be there and would be if they hadn't started dipping into it.

Now as for medicaid, yes, that is an entitlement program because you don't have to pay into it or for it to get it.

You have a source for any of that blather?
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me

Quote from: Olias on November 17, 2011, 03:51:55 PM
You have a source for any of that blather?
There is no charge for medicaid and there is for medicare, it comes directly out of your check every month.  You have to work to get Social Security, which comes with medicare, and you don't have to with medicaid and is part of welfare or for someone who has medical needs and can't afford insurance.  There is nothing wrong with that until it comes to the illegals who are collecting it and some here who are citizens, either natural or who have gone through the proper channels, who can't get it because of various loopholes. 

If you have never paid into something and you collect it is a give away, freebie, entitlement, or whatever you want to call it.  If you pay into something it is a benefit.
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The Troll

Quote from: me on November 17, 2011, 05:20:58 PM
There is no charge for medicaid and there is for medicare, it comes directly out of your check every month.  You have to work to get Social Security, which comes with medicare, and you don't have to with medicaid and is part of welfare or for someone who has medical needs and can't afford insurance.  There is nothing wrong with that until it comes to the illegals who are collecting it and some here who are citizens, either natural or who have gone through the proper channels, who can't get it because of various loopholes. 

If you have never paid into something and you collect it is a give away, freebie, entitlement, or whatever you want to call it.  If you pay into something it is a benefit.

  Yes, there is no charge for Medicaid.  But this only happen after you have spent all of your assets and you are declared destitute.

  This for the poor people who have spent all of their money and need some help.  But you Republican/Teabaggers want to do away with Medicaid and put in on charities, churches and donations.  As far as getting anything out of the last three.  :azz:




me

Quote from: The Troll on November 17, 2011, 05:36:05 PM

  Yes, there is no charge for Medicaid.  But this only happen after you have spent all of your assets and you are declared destitute.

  This for the poor people who have spent all of their money and need some help.  But you Republican/Teabaggers want to do away with Medicaid and put in on charities, churches and donations.  As far as getting anything out of the last three.  :azz:
You are allowed a certain amount of assets and still get medicaid. 
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Anne

Quote from: Exterminator on November 17, 2011, 03:36:03 PM
Were you ever self em[ployed and responsible for paying your own insurance premiums?  They can be pretty salty.

Do you want his stress as well?

No, but several members of my family have. They all manged one way or another. As far as stress, if everyone deserves coverage why don't they deserve what the President and Congress get. Why would they be deserving of better medical care than the average person.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

The Troll

Quote from: Anne on November 17, 2011, 08:41:08 PM
No, but several members of my family have. They all manged one way or another. As far as stress, if everyone deserves coverage why don't they deserve what the President and Congress get. Why would they be deserving of better medical care than the average person.

  Because they have made all of the rules over the years.  So we are at the first step of a long trail to make the rules equal.   :rant:  And you can bet it won't be the Republicans to do it.  :@#%&:

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  I'm so happy :bliss:  I'm so happy :bliss:  Old Mayor Billionaire Dumb-Berg cops using chemicals, clubs, bulldozers, arrest with big white wire ties couldn't shut down the OWS.  The dumb ass made things worse with making 30,000 people mad. :doh: I think he stepped on his little circumcised peter.  :rotfl:  :rotfl:  :rotfl: :trustme:  :grin2:

The Troll

Quote from: me on November 17, 2011, 08:21:47 PM
You are allowed a certain amount of assets and still get medicaid.

  Butter Cup, I think you are wrong.  Please tell me what assets you can keep.  I know you can't keep your house, car, farm, life insurance, money in the bank.  I only things I found that you could keep was your cloths, because they aren't worth anything to the government.  Please tell me, Butter Cup.   :wink: :biggrin:

me

Quote from: The Troll on November 17, 2011, 09:54:15 PM
  Butter Cup, I think you are wrong.  Please tell me what assets you can keep.  I know you can't keep your house, car, farm, life insurance, money in the bank.  I only things I found that you could keep was your cloths, because they aren't worth anything to the government.  Please tell me, Butter Cup.   :wink: :biggrin:
Well, smart guy.  You can keep your house, car, and a certain amount in the bank, although not much, and your furniture.  You are talking about nursing home care not medicaid where they take everything.
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me

Quote from: The Troll on November 17, 2011, 09:46:14 PM
  I'm so happy :bliss:  I'm so happy :bliss:  Old Mayor Billionaire Dumb-Berg cops using chemicals, clubs, bulldozers, arrest with big white wire ties couldn't shut down the OWS.  The dumb ass made things worse with making 30,000 people mad. :doh: I think he stepped on his little circumcised peter.  :rotfl:  :rotfl:  :rotfl: :trustme:  :grin2:
What don't you understand about there are violent people who have joined in this OWS group anyway?  Some, a few, are peaceful, yes, but there is a bunch who are not and they are wreaking havoc. They are dangerous and hell bent on tearing shit up. 
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Exterminator

Quote from: me on November 17, 2011, 05:20:58 PM
If you have never paid into something and you collect it is a give away, freebie, entitlement, or whatever you want to call it.  If you pay into something it is a benefit.

If you receive more from it than you paid in, it is an entitlement.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Bo D

Quote from: me on November 17, 2011, 05:20:58 PM
There is no charge for medicaid and there is for medicare

"Most people do not pay a monthly Part A premium because they or a spouse has 40 or more quarters of Medicare-covered employment."
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan