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Republican Party, Teabag Party and the Libertarian Party absolutely SUCK!

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Bo D

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

me

Quote from: Olias on November 18, 2011, 10:10:58 AM
"Most people do not pay a monthly Part A premium because they or a spouse has 40 or more quarters of Medicare-covered employment."
And that covers almost nothing. 
Trump 2020

me

Quote from: Exterminator on November 18, 2011, 07:43:51 AM
If you receive more from it than you paid in, it is an entitlement.
It will be quite sometime to receive more than I paid in and that is true for most people. 
Trump 2020

Bo D

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Olias on November 18, 2011, 10:15:08 AM
You MUST be a US citizen or a lawfully admitted immigrant to get Medicaid.
https://www.cms.gov/MedicaidEligibility/02_AreYouEligible_.asp#TopOfPage



"H.R. 3963 does away with the requirement to provide documentation of citizenship. Applicants who claim citizenship and possess a valid Social Security number are deemed eligible if they appear to meet the Medicaid income limits."

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2007/12/schip-bill-increases-illegal-immigrants-access-to-medicaid-and-undermines-welfare-reform#_ftn7

also, if a child is born here by two illegal immigrants, the child is covered by several programs.....should this be right?

the bottom line is we have a real mess, that there is NO real good way to clean it up, but it does need cleaned up.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: me on November 18, 2011, 10:23:24 AM
It will be quite sometime to receive more than I paid in and that is true for most people.

One serious illness is all it takes...one.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 18, 2011, 10:56:07 AM
"H.R. 3963 does away with the requirement to provide documentation of citizenship. Applicants who claim citizenship and possess a valid Social Security number are deemed eligible if they appear to meet the Medicaid income limits."

This bill never became law but it does raise an interesting question...if they are eligible, in other words, they have paid into the fund, shouldn't they be able to use it?  According to 'me' it's not even an entitlement but a benefit!   :rolleyes:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 18, 2011, 10:56:07 AM
"H.R. 3963 does away with the requirement to provide documentation of citizenship. Applicants who claim citizenship and possess a valid Social Security number are deemed eligible if they appear to meet the Medicaid income limits."

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2007/12/schip-bill-increases-illegal-immigrants-access-to-medicaid-and-undermines-welfare-reform#_ftn7

also, if a child is born here by two illegal immigrants, the child is covered by several programs.....should this be right?

the bottom line is we have a real mess, that there is NO real good way to clean it up, but it does need cleaned up.

:groan: :sm39:

That bill never passed!

"H.R.3963
Latest Title: Children's Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act of 2007
Sponsor: Rep Dingell, John D. [MI-15] (introduced 10/24/2007)      Cosponsors (23)
Related Bills: H.RES.774, H.R.976
Latest Major Action: 1/23/2008 Failed of passage in House over veto. Status: On passage, the objections of the President to the contrary notwithstanding Failed by the Yeas and Nays: (2/3 required): 260 - 152 (Roll no. 22).
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on November 18, 2011, 11:34:40 AM
This bill never became law but it does raise an interesting question...if they are eligible, in other words, they have paid into the fund, shouldn't they be able to use it?  According to 'me' it's not even an entitlement but a benefit!   :rolleyes:

Medicaid, is strictly an entitlement........many never pay into it and receive it.  That is what it was designed for.  My argument is more with the fraudulent abuse, allowing those not qualified to receive it.

Medicare is more of a benefit, but you make a point of it becoming an entitlement for many possible reasons.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Olias on November 18, 2011, 11:50:46 AM
:groan: :sm39:

That bill never passed!

"H.R.3963
Latest Title: Children's Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act of 2007
Sponsor: Rep Dingell, John D. [MI-15] (introduced 10/24/2007)      Cosponsors (23)
Related Bills: H.RES.774, H.R.976
Latest Major Action: 1/23/2008 Failed of passage in House over veto. Status: On passage, the objections of the President to the contrary notwithstanding Failed by the Yeas and Nays: (2/3 required): 260 - 152 (Roll no. 22).

and I never said it passed, but it's intentions was what I was pointing.....and it may still yet pass...at least a modified version of it.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 18, 2011, 11:57:35 AM
and I never said it passed, but it's intentions was what I was pointing.....and it may still yet pass...at least a modified version of it.

Oh, give me a break! Your post was a direct (wrong) answer to my statement "You MUST be a US citizen or a lawfully admitted immigrant to get Medicaid."

You never mentioned "intentions" in your post. Admit it, for once for goodness sakes. You and "me" just keep posting half-truths, innuendos, and outright lies because of your pitiful lack of knowledge on the subject.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Henry Hawk

then you are saying that ALL NON-Citizens have NEVER got any medicaid benefits?

if they did, then you are a liar, spreading mis-information.....
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

Quote from: me on November 18, 2011, 02:08:14 AM
What don't you understand about there are violent people who have joined in this OWS group anyway?  Some, a few, are peaceful, yes, but there is a bunch who are not and they are wreaking havoc. They are dangerous and hell bent on tearing shit up.

  What shit are they tearing up.  The only thing I seen torn up, if that's what you call it was some police barricades.  I sure see the damn cops tearing up the people.  :smash:

  I suppose you think it alright to beat, pepper spray an old 80 year old women in the face like it was a water hose.   Pregnant woman, a woman in wheel chair and was going to send her to jail until the dumb ass thugs cops decided they couldn't transport her.

  Bring in bulldozers, police horses.   My god how many damn cops does New York City have.  I think they ought to have a budget cut in the police and give the white shirt cops brown shirts just like the Nazi used.   :rant:

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 18, 2011, 12:10:45 PM
then you are saying that ALL NON-Citizens have NEVER got any medicaid benefits?

if they did, then you are a liar, spreading mis-information.....

are YOU a Liar???  YOU said....You MUST be a US citizen or a lawfully admitted immigrant to get Medicaid.

do you stand on those remarks?.............are YOU that naive to believe those words?
are YOU  a liar?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

Quote from: The Troll on November 18, 2011, 12:33:24 PM
  What shit are they tearing up.  The only thing I seen torn up, if that's what you call it was some police barricades.  I sure see the damn cops tearing up the people.  :smash:

  I suppose you think it alright to beat, pepper spray an old 80 year old women in the face like it was a water hose.   Pregnant woman, a woman in wheel chair and was going to send her to jail until the dumb ass thugs cops decided they couldn't transport her.

  Bring in bulldozers, police horses.   My god how many damn cops does New York City have.  I think they ought to have a budget cut in the police and give the white shirt cops brown shirts just like the Nazi used.   :rant:

I give up........the blind, hyporcits from the left will only see what they want to see........and YOU guys have the nerve to say what you do about me and me.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW