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Quote from: me on January 08, 2011, 08:40:53 PM
Has nothing to do with her politics period.  Has to do with this guy was a nut job LIBERAL, same party as the victim in case you didn't notice, who could have done this to anyone including a conservative.  He probably didn't even listen to Palin or the tea party.  He was busy reading books on communism.

. . .Giffords, a Democrat, was first elected in 2006. She has served as chairwoman of the House Space and Aeronautics Subcommittee and also holds seats on the House Science and Technology and Armed Services committees.
She won her third term in a closely contested race against a Tea Party-sponsored candidate and was one of three Democratic legislators who reported vandalism at their offices following the March vote on health care reform.
. . .

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/08/arizona.shooting/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1

Now, which victim are you referring to? One of the 12 wounded, or the federal judge or 9 year old child that were killed outright?

You keep saying the perp is a liberal, but from what I've read of his social networks postings he is the exact kind of nutjob the tea party's insidious political rancor inflames; by design or ignorance. I've said it before and I'll say it again, making statements that imply people should "lock and load" or "reload", or enact a "code red" will motivate individuals within the weeds to do these kinds of things. And that is exactly what has happened here. Watch and see.

Now, you have any proof surrounding your postulations on his political party? (The perp) No, I highly doubt it because where you more than likely got that from is the talking heads at Faux News! And that was bullshit the second they spoke it.  And the perp isn't talking to anyone since he has invoked his constitutional rights against self incrimination.

My position is based upon a solid possibility surrounding his potential motivation(s) for doing what he did. Is it proven? No, but it certainly is a lot more probable than some conservative and lying conservative news channel attempting to use this incident as a means to throw shit onto the opposition. (The courts will decide the who, what, where, when, and why of this incident, but my money is on the political rancor being spewed by the supposed "conservative" tea party as being a primary motivator for this obviously delusional and easily lead whack job).

My question here is just how many times does this kind of thing have to happen before you covert neocon conservatives realize you are feeding these monsters?  :mad:  This jackass killed a federal judge and a child, in cold blood, and the only thing you are worried about is what his political party or views are? How about worrying how your political propaganda incited him, and will incite others?
Quote from: Anne on January 08, 2011, 09:13:17 PM
So it is just your opinion with no fact to back it up.

Yes it is my opinion, but said opinion is based upon accepted criminal methodology too. While it doesn't mean it's absolute or correct, it still is based upon established and solid theory. And not the insidious speculations and pipe dreams of some talking head. . .

Quote from: Anne on January 08, 2011, 09:13:17 PM
Of course I am upset and disgused by the shooting, and I am not the one wishing death to anyone regardless of their party affiliation.

Are you saying that I am??? I'd love to see that proof you have of this wild speculation.  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Better crack another bottle
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Anne

Quote from: Palehorse on January 08, 2011, 09:53:30 PM
. . .Giffords, a Democrat, was first elected in 2006. She has served as chairwoman of the House Space and Aeronautics Subcommittee and also holds seats on the House Science and Technology and Armed Services committees.
She won her third term in a closely contested race against a Tea Party-sponsored candidate and was one of three Democratic legislators who reported vandalism at their offices following the March vote on health care reform.
. . .

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/08/arizona.shooting/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1

Now, which victim are you referring to? One of the 12 wounded, or the federal judge or 9 year old child that were killed outright?

You keep saying the perp is a liberal, but from what I've read of his social networks postings he is the exact kind of nutjob the tea party's insidious political rancor inflames; by design or ignorance. I've said it before and I'll say it again, making statements that imply people should "lock and load" or "reload", or enact a "code red" will motivate individuals within the weeds to do these kinds of things. And that is exactly what has happened here. Watch and see.

Now, you have any proof surrounding your postulations on his political party? (The perp) No, I highly doubt it because where you more than likely got that from is the talking heads at Faux News! And that was bullshit the second they spoke it.  And the perp isn't talking to anyone since he has invoked his constitutional rights against self incrimination.

My position is based upon a solid possibility surrounding his potential motivation(s) for doing what he did. Is it proven? No, but it certainly is a lot more probable than some conservative and lying conservative news channel attempting to use this incident as a means to throw shit onto the opposition. (The courts will decide the who, what, where, when, and why of this incident, but my money is on the political rancor being spewed by the supposed "conservative" tea party as being a primary motivator for this obviously delusional and easily lead whack job).

My question here is just how many times does this kind of thing have to happen before you covert neocon conservatives realize you are feeding these monsters?  :mad:  This jackass killed a federal judge and a child, in cold blood, and the only thing you are worried about is what his political party or views are? How about worrying how your political propaganda incited him, and will incite others?
Yes it is my opinion, but said opinion is based upon accepted criminal methodology too. While it doesn't mean it's absolute or correct, it still is based upon established and solid theory. And not the insidious speculations and pipe dreams of some talking head. . .

Are you saying that I am??? I'd love to see that proof you have of this wild speculation.  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Better crack another bottle
Nope, wasn't talking particularly about you. You are the one who said he had to be a republican or a tea party member. Maybe you are the one who should either "crack another bottle" or maybe lay off the bottle for awhile.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

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Quote from: Palehorse on January 08, 2011, 09:53:30 PM
. . .Giffords, a Democrat, was first elected in 2006. She has served as chairwoman of the House Space and Aeronautics Subcommittee and also holds seats on the House Science and Technology and Armed Services committees.
She won her third term in a closely contested race against a Tea Party-sponsored candidate and was one of three Democratic legislators who reported vandalism at their offices following the March vote on health care reform.
. . .

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/08/arizona.shooting/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1

Now, which victim are you referring to? One of the 12 wounded, or the federal judge or 9 year old child that were killed outright?

You keep saying the perp is a liberal, but from what I've read of his social networks postings he is the exact kind of nutjob the tea party's insidious political rancor inflames; by design or ignorance. I've said it before and I'll say it again, making statements that imply people should "lock and load" or "reload", or enact a "code red" will motivate individuals within the weeds to do these kinds of things. And that is exactly what has happened here. Watch and see.

Now, you have any proof surrounding your postulations on his political party? (The perp) No, I highly doubt it because where you more than likely got that from is the talking heads at Faux News! And that was bullshit the second they spoke it.  And the perp isn't talking to anyone since he has invoked his constitutional rights against self incrimination.

My position is based upon a solid possibility surrounding his potential motivation(s) for doing what he did. Is it proven? No, but it certainly is a lot more probable than some conservative and lying conservative news channel attempting to use this incident as a means to throw shit onto the opposition. (The courts will decide the who, what, where, when, and why of this incident, but my money is on the political rancor being spewed by the supposed "conservative" tea party as being a primary motivator for this obviously delusional and easily lead whack job).

My question here is just how many times does this kind of thing have to happen before you covert neocon conservatives realize you are feeding these monsters?  :mad:  This jackass killed a federal judge and a child, in cold blood, and the only thing you are worried about is what his political party or views are? How about worrying how your political propaganda incited him, and will incite others?
Yes it is my opinion, but said opinion is based upon accepted criminal methodology too. While it doesn't mean it's absolute or correct, it still is based upon established and solid theory. And not the insidious speculations and pipe dreams of some talking head. . .

Are you saying that I am??? I'd love to see that proof you have of this wild speculation.  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Better crack another bottle
That statement was made over or close to a year ago and he most likely didn't even know who the judge was because he just happened to be there it wasn't planned.  The propaganda that incited him was the books he was reading and the fact that he imagined that it was really happening.  If it is as you say then neither political should ever go on TV, radio, or to a public place and disagree with the other party or express their views because it may incite someone.  Why are you so eager to place blame on Palin and the Tea Party without knowing all the facts especially since none of them are pointing in that direction?      What incited people who did the other political shootings?  You know like, Lincoln, Kennedy, (both Bobby and Jack), and the others.  It damn sure wasn't Palin or the Tea Partiers then.  He was a nut job pure and simple. 
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QuoteThere has been a rush to determine what had prompted the massacre in a state that has been roiled by incendiary debate over illegal immigrants and has also become ground zero for those questioning Obama's birthplace.

"It's not a good atmosphere right now, though I'm not saying that's what prompted this," said University of Arizona law professor Andy Silverman, who knew Roll well. "But things in Arizona are very tense, and we've become the incubator for a lot of immigration-related matters and now for the birthers, too."

Giffords' fellow Arizona congressman, Republican Jeff Flake, recalled that she was unfazed after her Tucson office had been targeted by vandals who broke a window on the eve of last year's health care vote.

During an interview with MSNBC after her office was vandalized, Giffords noted that her district was on Sarah Palin's "crosshairs" list of targeted congressional races. And it had been reported that in 2009, Roll and his wife received 24-hour protection for at least a month after receiving death threats after certifying a multimillion-dollar lawsuit illegal immigrants had filed against an Arizona rancher.

http://www.npr.org/2011/01/09/132780010/vitriol-cited-as-possible-factor-in-arizona-tragedy

I don't deny he's a nut, but that doesn't change anything. If a nut is incited by the words of another, then I think the other should be a little more cautious with the things they say. He's responsible for pulling the trigger, but there are multiple layers of responsibility. If you're in the public eye and have a following, then it's important to consider how your published/spoken words might inspire them. To do otherwise is irresponsible. Of course, she's a couple nuggets short of a happy meal herself.

Having said that, if there weren't some guilt feelings, then why did Palin take the crosshairs off her website AFTER the shooting?
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The Troll

Quote from: me on January 09, 2011, 04:03:45 AM
That statement was made over or close to a year ago and he most likely didn't even know who the judge was because he just happened to be there it wasn't planned.  The propaganda that incited him was the books he was reading and the fact that he imagined that it was really happening.  If it is as you say then neither political should ever go on TV, radio, or to a public place and disagree with the other party or express their views because it may incite someone.  Why are you so eager to place blame on Palin and the Tea Party without knowing all the facts especially since none of them are pointing in that direction?      What incited people who did the other political shootings?  You know like, Lincoln, Kennedy, (both Bobby and Jack), and the others.  It damn sure wasn't Palin or the Tea Partiers then.  He was a nut job pure and simple.

  Well, you Republicans should be happy your poison kool-aid has finally worked.

  Your poison dogma of "Just reload"  "Using the 2 Amendent Cure", "Crosshairs of a gun telescope on Rep. Gabrille voting district,  Bill O'Reilly calling out on Fox New that Dr. Teller was a baby killer and beat him night after night with the name of Dr. Teller the baby killer, Dr. Teller the Baby Killer, Dr. Teller the baby killer until one of the Far Right Wingnuts (Republican) killed him while he was unarmed in a church.  My god, you Republicans are gutless.  Shooting unarmed Doctors,  Women and kids.

  Then this Crazy Nut shoots her and many other unarmed people.  Now we don't know if he is a Republican, but I'll bet he's been listening to Palin, Beck and Angle and other poison Kool-Aid sellers and they have been putting it out for years.

  I have said, you haven't seen nothing yet until the next two years with the Republicans.  I hope you Republicans and Teabagger, you believers and followers of:

  Fox News
  Sarah Palin  "Just reload" and the "Crosshairs" on Rep. Giffords.
  Glen Beck  with just pure hate and stupidity.
  Sharron Angle  "Using the 2ND Amendent  Cure"
  Rush Limbaugh  3 hour of hate, 5 days a week.
  Sean Hannity  Pure hate 1 hour a day, 5 days a week.
  Bill O'Reilly who got Dr. Teller killed.

  And many, many more Republican hate monger.  Are you happy now?  You got what you wanted, a Democrat killed.

  One more reason I hate and despise the Republican Party so much.  And the poor dumb ass sheeple who vote for them can't see them for what they are.  Super rich, corporation loving Democrat killers.

 

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Palehorse

Quote from: Anne on January 08, 2011, 11:38:13 PM
Nope, wasn't talking particularly about you. You are the one who said he had to be a republican or a tea party member. Maybe you are the one who should either "crack another bottle" or maybe lay off the bottle for awhile.

You need another class in reading comprehension? I said he was moved to do what he did by the republican and tea party rhetoric. . .  :rolleyes:

Have another drink. . .
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

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Palehorse

We can't say we weren't warned about Arizona shooting tragedy
Jan 9, 2011 11:25AM

We cannot walk away from this one.

We cannot blame one nutjob for the shooting of 19 people Saturday in Tucson, Ariz., and wash our hands of it.

We cannot pretend that this is only about him and not about us.

Worst of all, we cannot say we were not warned.

For more than two years, sensible people have been pleading with their fellow Americans to tone down the rhetoric, to quit with the demonizing, to end the fear-mongering.

In what kind of country, the sensible people asked, do political leaders across the board not condemn a sign at a rally that reads: "We left our guns at home — this time"?

In what kind of country do people show up at presidential speeches with guns on their hips?

In what kind of a country do callers to radio shows routinely smear those with whom they disagree — beginning with our president — as "traitors" and "un-American," while pandering hosts say only, "Thanks for the call."

If we continue this way, the sensible people warned, something will happen.

And now something has happened.

U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, an Arizona Democrat, was meeting with constituents outside a supermarket Saturday — a "Congress on Your Corner" event — when a young man walked up, aimed a gun at her head and started shooting.

As we wrote this, Giffords was fighting for her life in a Tucson hospital. Six people were dead. Twelve others were wounded.

What drove the killer, who police say might have had an accomplice? Was it the reckless rhetoric of our times? As of yet, we don't know. Maybe, though improbably, politics had nothing to do with this.

Only in time will we know if the killer was among those who threatened Giffords with physical harm last year when she voted in favor of President Obama's health-care reforms. We may never know whether he was the one who shattered the windows of her Tucson office. And it's entirely possible that he was not among those — the many — who threatened her with death after she spoke out against Arizona's harsh new immigration law.

But would any intelligent person be surprised to learn otherwise?

The safe observation for us to make now — you will hear it from others all week — is that the angry and irresponsible talk that might lead an unhinged person to pick up a gun is common across the political landscape, from right to left.

But that simply is not true.

Overwhelmingly today, the fear-mongering and demonizing flow from the right, aided and abetted by cable TV and talk-radio hosts. They may represent only the irresponsible fringe of conservatism in America, but they are drowning out the thoughtful voices of the vast majority of conservatives.

Giffords, as she showed by meeting constituents outside that supermarket, dared to believe that Americans can disagree with each other without turning on each other.

Maybe that was a mistake.

http://www.suntimes.com/3220146-417/giffords-cannot-tucson-ariz-saturday.html
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

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The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 09, 2011, 11:34:23 AM
please, please.......for the love of God.........stfu!

  Please tell me why, I should shut the fuck up.  You're one of the fuck ups that worship at the feet of the Republican Party believing all of their poison dogma.  :koolaid:  Just like I said Hawk, put your right leg over your right shoulder and your left leg over your left shoulder and kiss your ass good by.  The next two years will be really screw up by the Republicans.  The last week in Washington, they have showed their true colors.  YELLOW! 

Palehorse

They're trying to downplay this jackass's possible motives for doing what he did, that's why we are being told to shut the fuck up Troll.

The Democratic Congresswoman's picture being displayed with a crosshair on it upon a certain party/individuals web site, and then she ends up being shot in the head by this jackass. . . Coincidence? I don't believe in them!  :mad: :mad: :mad:

They are trying to motivate those on the edge of society to do exactly this kind of thing. Why else would they be fear-mongering and engaging propaganda campaigns designed to incite????

Drill baby, drill - spill baby, spill - kill baby, kill!
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville