Republican Party, Teabag Party and the Libertarian Party absolutely SUCK!

[The Troll]

It appears Peg Dunmire is not the Floridian he was referring to. But we are no closer to learning who his target was.

  If the "he" is the Troll.  The guy I am talking is a Florida Republican state congressman.  I missed his name and since i didn't write down his name and he's Republican who gives a damn.  They all hate women.

  But Monday night on the Ed Show.  Ed Schultz and Senator Alan Grayson were talking about him.  This is where I got it.  You surly don't think I making this bullshit up.  All of the Teabaggers feel woman are less than equal with men.  Surly you agree with me on this one.

[Lester Sasquatch]

   All of the Teabaggers feel woman are less than equal with men. .

Troll, there are a lot of women in the TEA party. You must be thinking of Muslims, they are the ones that think women have few rights and should be submissive. That Ed Shultz is a left wing Rush Limbaugh rabble rouser, I don't have use for either one. I don't care for anyone who stirs up crap just to make money. Just like these folks that write books on politics, they find something that is sensational and hammer it to death just to make a buck. Maybe you should listen to the real intellectuals speak, like the Bob & Tom radio show who often have knowledgeable guest commentators.

[Locutus]

It appears Peg Dunmire is not the Floridian he was referring to. But we are no closer to learning who his target was.

Maybe someone on this list.  These are some scary people right here.   Look at their position on the carrying babies to term in cases of rape and incest. 

http://www.rnclife.org/pac/2010_Primary_PAC_Report.html

[The Troll]

Troll, there are a lot of women in the TEA party. You must be thinking of Muslims, they are the ones that think women have few rights and should be submissive. That Ed Shultz is a left wing Rush Limbaugh rabble rouser, I don't have use for either one. I don't care for anyone who stirs up crap just to make money. Just like these folks that write books on politics, they find something that is sensational and hammer it to death just to make a buck. Maybe you should listen to the real intellectuals speak, like the Bob & Tom radio show who often have knowledgeable guest commentators.

  Ed Schultz tells the truth, I have never caught him lie.  He doesn't lie.  Now Rush Limbaugh he is one bag of lying bullshit.  Half his brain tied behing his back and the other half on Oxycondone.  This man is evil and a true hater.

  Bob and Tom, you got to be kidding me, Lester.  I have tried to watch it, I for the life of me couldn't stand it.
  I do know one thing, if the Teabagger got control of this country.  The first thing they would do is take the right of a woman to do with her body what she want to.  No freedom for woman.

[LOsborne]

  Bob and Tom, you got to be kidding me, Lester.

Ahhhhh.... at last he begins to see the light.

[The Troll]

Ahhhhh.... at last he begins to see the light.

  I glad Ozzborn is happy.

[The Troll]

Ahhhhh.... at last he begins to see the light.

  Ozzyborne, if you have read my post from the past, I have always been for the woman rights issues.  Now I may be wrong about you women.  I know that if I going to be screwed, I want to be kissed.    and the same money for the same work and the right to manage my own body.  Screw the religious Teabagger assholes.

  You surly agree on that issue with me.  HuH?

[Sandy Eggo]

Although I think Lolly was referring to citing who you are talking about so that we aren't guessing; I agree with what you just said and I'd like to add that I become infuriated that there are women trying to sell the  gender role crap. See O'Donnell and Sharron Angle, both teapartiers.

[Sandy Eggo]

What about DeMint and his comment that gay people and unwed pregnant mothers shouldn't teach in schools?

[Lester Sasquatch]

Sandy, they're politicians and they all lie just to get votes. I tell you what worries me more than the TEA party, it's that Islamic Sharia law where women have absolutely no rights at all. Can't wear a swim suit or go out in public without their faces covered. Muslim husbands expect their wives to be submissive and, if they aren't, are supposed to physically beat them into it. You might think "Never in America" but a chill went down my spine when the Islamic fundamentalist leader, Amjad Choudry from NY, told Christiane Amanpour in a recent televised interview that  the flag of Islam will fly over the White House one day. Now I hope for a flag of any religion never waves above any of our government's offices but we need to be very careful. The TEA part is pretty tame compared to Islamic law but still no religion of any kind should play a part in our government. I believe in the separation of church and state so I was not pleased when our president pledged in Cairo to help Muslim Americans give to charity overseas. The reason there are strict rules on giving to any foreign charity is because the money is easily, and often is, funneled to organizations that support jihad, or terrorism. Unlike the most other religious doctrine, the Islamic principle of Taqiyya allows, and even encourages, lying to further the "will of Allah".

Islamic Flag flying over the WH one day.
http://onfaith.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/eboo_patel/2010/10/how_to_build_a_fear_bomb.html

Obama Pledges to Help Muslim Charity Giving
http://philanthropy.com/article/President-Obama-Pledges-to/63105/

Falsehoods told to prevent the denigration of Islam, to protect oneself, or to promote the cause of Islam are sanctioned in the Qur'an and Sunna, including lying under oath in testimony before a court, deceiving by making distorted statements to the media such as the claim that Islam is a "religion of peace". A Muslim is even permitted to deny or denounce his faith if, in so doing, he protects or furthers the interests of Islam, so long as he remains faithful to Islam in his heart.

Islamic Principle of Lying for the Sake of Allah
http://islam-watch.org/Warner/Taqiyya-Islamic-Principle-Lying-for-Allah.htm

There are many evil deeds perpetrated under the guise of religion, all of them. On the other hand, there have been honorable religious leaders as well. Take the Kurdish leader Saladin for example, who history says was an honorable man. His Christian opponent, Richard the Lionheart, was a dishonorable trickster who massacred over 2000 Muslim prisoners in cold blood. Even then when Richard lay sick, Saladin sent his personal physician to his bedside. And both religions have been known to kill one another when not united by a common foe.

Likewise there are honorable Republicans as well as Democrats and only a fool lumps them as a whole. Take the incumbent Republican Senator from Alaska, Lisa Murkowski, whose father handed her the office on a silver platter. She is more liberal than most Democrats. Then there are those conservative Democrats that call themselves "Blue Dogs". In my opinion it all boils down to equilibrium, or balance. When one party has numerical advantage, they push their agendas whatever they may be and seem to care less how it effects the people. The Democrats were just as guilty as the opposing party when it came to NAFTA and requiring banks to hand out home mortgages to unqualified buyers. They both have destroyed the industrial base of America, allowing foreign goods to enter this country with little or no tariffs while these same countries have huge tariffs on American goods. The TEA party appears not to have a universal agenda so I cannot really comment on their policies but we need to remember that balance is better than domination.

[Palehorse]

http://www.youtube.com/v/n4b1Xr0jssU

[The Troll]

Sandy, they're politicians and they all lie just to get votes. I tell you what worries me more than the TEA party, it's that Islamic Sharia law where women have absolutely no rights at all. Can't wear a swim suit or go out in public without their faces covered. Muslim husbands expect their wives to be submissive and, if they aren't, are supposed to physically beat them into it. You might think "Never in America" but a chill went down my spine when the Islamic fundamentalist leader, Amjad Choudry from NY, told Christiane Amanpour in a recent televised interview that  the flag of Islam will fly over the White House one day. Now I hope for a flag of any religion never waves above any of our government's offices but we need to be very careful. The TEA part is pretty tame compared to Islamic law but still no religion of any kind should play a part in our government. I believe in the separation of church and state so I was not pleased when our president pledged in Cairo to help Muslim Americans give to charity overseas. The reason there are strict rules on giving to any foreign charity is because the money is easily, and often is, funneled to organizations that support jihad, or terrorism. Unlike the most other religious doctrine, the Islamic principle of Taqiyya allows, and even encourages, lying to further the "will of Allah".

Islamic Flag flying over the WH one day.
http://onfaith.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/eboo_patel/2010/10/how_to_build_a_fear_bomb.html

Obama Pledges to Help Muslim Charity Giving
http://philanthropy.com/article/President-Obama-Pledges-to/63105/

Falsehoods told to prevent the denigration of Islam, to protect oneself, or to promote the cause of Islam are sanctioned in the Qur'an and Sunna, including lying under oath in testimony before a court, deceiving by making distorted statements to the media such as the claim that Islam is a "religion of peace". A Muslim is even permitted to deny or denounce his faith if, in so doing, he protects or furthers the interests of Islam, so long as he remains faithful to Islam in his heart.

Islamic Principle of Lying for the Sake of Allah
http://islam-watch.org/Warner/Taqiyya-Islamic-Principle-Lying-for-Allah.htm

There are many evil deeds perpetrated under the guise of religion, all of them. On the other hand, there have been honorable religious leaders as well. Take the Kurdish leader Saladin for example, who history says was an honorable man. His Christian opponent, Richard the Lionheart, was a dishonorable trickster who massacred over 2000 Muslim prisoners in cold blood. Even then when Richard lay sick, Saladin sent his personal physician to his bedside. And both religions have been known to kill one another when not united by a common foe.

Likewise there are honorable Republicans as well as Democrats and only a fool lumps them as a whole. Take the incumbent Republican Senator from Alaska, Lisa Murkowski, whose father handed her the office on a silver platter. She is more liberal than most Democrats. Then there are those conservative Democrats that call themselves "Blue Dogs". In my opinion it all boils down to equilibrium, or balance. When one party has numerical advantage, they push their agendas whatever they may be and seem to care less how it effects the people. The Democrats were just as guilty as the opposing party when it came to NAFTA and requiring banks to hand out home mortgages to unqualified buyers. They both have destroyed the industrial base of America, allowing foreign goods to enter this country with little or no tariffs while these same countries have huge tariffs on American goods. The TEA party appears not to have a universal agenda so I cannot really comment on their policies but we need to remember that balance is better than domination.

Now with all of this information.  After 8 years of George W. and what he did for this country and after 1 year and 11 months of what Obama did in health care, credit card abuse and so many more thing.

  Who do you really think has more caring for the middle class and the poor?  The Republicans or the Democrats?

  And of the two parties, who's the most truthful?  Tell me, tell me the truth.

[Palehorse]

 

[Lester Sasquatch]

Now with all of this information.  After 8 years of George W. and what he did for this country and after 1 year and 11 months of what Obama did in health care, credit card abuse and so many more thing.

  Who do you really think has more caring for the middle class and the poor?  The Republicans or the Democrats?

  And of the two parties, who's the most truthful?  Tell me, tell me the truth.

Well Troll, I guess I would have to say every politician by nature is fluent in the art of deception. I would like to make it clear that we, the voters, hold some culpability because it is our nature to be lazy and gullible. Like that video that palehorse posted about the TEA party, a masterful work of misinformation that would rival those that of the Nazi propaganda machine in Germany before and during WW II. On its face the video is certainly alarming but how much of it is true? Today's successful political candidate has two major tools in his or her arsenal, deception and oration skills. Let me give you an example. A few years ago I watched a campaign ad where the candidate said his opponent voted against funding research for an effort to find a cure for breast cancer. I looked it up and in fact he was correct but what he failed to mention was that the funding for this research was included as a minor part of a bill that was otherwise full of pork barrel funding for senseless projects in the home states of the senators who crafted the bill. So while the statement was 100% true, it was at the same time misleading.

I too jumped on the hope and change bandwagon because the alternative was electing a man who I feel is mentally unbalanced and prone to violent outbursts of rage. Yes, I am talking of Senator McCain. It was with a heavy heart that I cast my vote, one for what I felt, and still feel by the way, was for the lesser of two evils rather than a wise leader. The fact is that my fears concerning President Obama were over ridden by my nightmare of seeing WW III unfold before my eyes when one day Senator McCain wakes up with a burr under his saddle. But I would be untruthful if I said that Obama's refusal to release his school records, his work as an attorney, and other documents I feel were important to make an educated decision concerned me to a great degree. Please note that his official birth certificate is not on my list. I listened to his many campaign promises, no lobbyists in his administration, and complete transparency with all bills awaiting his signature to be posted on the Internet for at least 5 days before signing them, and I was under the impression we would get the hell out of the middle east in short order. But as we all know now, these promises were broken. I read both of Obama's biographies and learned nothing of substance.

Our elected politicians are masters in the principles of Machiavelli, using deceit, despotism, and political manipulation to further their agendas. Machiavelli proposed that the people are too ignorant to know what is in their best interests. The ideal leader tells the people what they want to hear, does what he wants to do, then blames his opponents for the results if the people don't like them. This politician will be quick to take credit for those things that are popular with the people and distance himself from those the makes the populace grumble. To them the people are like children, and you wouldn't put a child in a position to dictate policy.  Now the idea behind that Health Care Bill is honorable but it includes things that have nothing to do with the physical well being of those it purports to serve. Like that a company that has annual transactions with a particular individual over the amount of $600 must fill out an IRS tax form, a 1099 I believe. What does this have to do with health care?

We have allowed these nitwits, most who have never performed a day's worth of physical labor to destroy our industrial base. Even the best union in the land cannot keep jobs for their members when laborers in China will work in squalid conditions for pennies a day. To make matters worse, the products we send overseas are heavily taxed by tariffs when we let products from these same countries come into the USA duty free. We are now dependent on foreign powers for much more than oil. China controls the world's supply of rare earth metals. Guess where they got it? From a company in Indiana that perfected the refining techniques and were bought out by Chinese investors who quickly and silently moved the equipment to mainland China. So not only did our loyal leaders send jobs overseas, they exported something even more valuable: our technology. 

So the short answer to the question of which political party is the most truthful is: neither or both. I see the problems but have no ready answers. I guess to start with I would level the playing field and start charging tariffs on imported products and repeal NAFTA so the American worker has a fighting chance. But it is late in the ballgame, maybe too late to win the game at this point.

[The Troll]

  I bet a retirement check that if Obama presented a bill to drop out of NAFTA.  The Republican Party would vote 100% against.  Want to bet.

  Do you think they should cut the wages of the minumum wage workers.

  Make a waitress and waiters work for tips only.  Hell they are trying to get you to check yourself out at the stores.

  Do you  think they should get rid of Social Security and put it in the stock market.

  Do  you think they should get rid of Medicare and let the private insurance companies  handle all of it.

  Stop all abortions, even if its rape, incest or the life of the mother.

  If you answer yes to any of these questions YES, your a Republican.

  What is your answers to these questions Lester.