Republican Party, Teabag Party and the Libertarian Party absolutely SUCK!

[LOsborne]

There is a reason WHY, those "tea party" candidates  have jobs, money, health insurance and good educations ...

Yeah, in the case of Sharon Angle, it's because she married a guy with a federal pension and federal health insurance.

It's like my kids used to say about the Pope... "you no play-a the game, you no mak -a the rules."

[LOsborne]

Who the heck is Joe Brown from Alaska?

Don't ask the Troll for sources. Evidently we're just supposed to accept it as holy writ, if the Troll said it.

[The Troll]

Who the heck is Joe Brown from Alaska? Is he on of those guys who fish for crabs on TV? What's he got to do with the tea party?

  Joe Brown, Republican Tea Party candidate from Alaska.  Who want to do away with minimum wage.  Have waitress and waiters to work for tips only, letting the restaurants owner not pay them for their work.  Do away from Social Security, do away with Medicare and Medicade and all regulations on banks and the stock market.  That who is Joe Brown.

[Lester Sasquatch]

  Joe Brown, Republican Tea Party candidate from Alaska.  Who want to do away with minimum wage.  Have waitress and waiters to work for tips only, letting the restaurants owner not pay them for their work.  Do away from Social Security, do away with Medicare and Medicade and all regulations on banks and the stock market.  That who is Joe Brown.

Are you sure you don't mean Joe Miller, the senate candidate who won the Republican primary against Murkowski?

[The Troll]

Are you sure you don't mean Joe Miller, the senate candidate who won the Republican primary against Murkowski?

  Your so RIGHT.  Got my wires crossed again.  Just like I said PADA instead of PETA.  BRAIN FART AGAIN.  Keep me straight Buddy.

  One question, what do your think of those PETA people who were letting the air out of deer hunters cars while they were hunting.  I know one deer hunter who was planing to hunt PETA people, he was going to sit where he could scope out the parking area.  He was going to see what shot gun slugs would do to their engine blocks and tires and gas tanks.  It's not nice to play big boy games in the woods.  It's very lucky they stopped.

[Lester Sasquatch]

Troll, I think that that animals have one right. They have the right to be enjoyed by humans either as a meal or as a pet. Humans have a responsibility to be humane to animals who pose them no threat. Animals that are taken out of their natural habitat by humans should be taken care of. But animals should not be given preference above the life and well being of a human being. We are obligated as creatures of higher order and intelligence not to maliciously or unjustifiably kill other creatures. If an animal is threatening a human's life in some way, then killing the animal become a necessity in some cases. If a human plans to use the flesh of an animal for food, they are responsible to dispatch it as quickly and humanely as possible. In the case of hunting animals, if the hunter cannot be assured of a clean kill he should not attempt it. Humans that kill just to satisfy a blood lust should be held accountable for their actions.

That said, I think that these activists who let the air out of other folks' tires are protesting the wrong way. If they are truly offended by the actions of hunters, they should petition the government to outlaw the practice. Troll, I have learned there is a small segment of the population that desire to rebel and join radical groups just to be able to practice their rebellion. It doesn't really matter what the particular group believes these people want to defy authority. They are what I call "Rebels looking for a cause."

[The Troll]

Troll, I think that that animals have one right. They have the right to be enjoyed by humans either as a meal or as a pet. Humans have a responsibility to be humane to animals who pose them no threat. Animals that are taken out of their natural habitat by humans should be taken care of. But animals should not be given preference above the life and well being of a human being. We are obligated as creatures of higher order and intelligence not to maliciously or unjustifiably kill other creatures. If an animal is threatening a human's life in some way, then killing the animal become a necessity in some cases. If a human plans to use the flesh of an animal for food, they are responsible to dispatch it as quickly and humanely as possible. In the case of hunting animals, if the hunter cannot be assured of a clean kill he should not attempt it. Humans that kill just to satisfy a blood lust should be held accountable for their actions.

That said, I think that these activists who let the air out of other folks' tires are protesting the wrong way. If they are truly offended by the actions of hunters, they should petition the government to outlaw the practice. Troll, I have learned there is a small segment of the population that desire to rebel and join radical groups just to be able to practice their rebellion. It doesn't really matter what the particular group believes these people want to defy authority. They are what I call "Rebels looking for a cause."

  Well said Lester.  So many of these young people don't know how things had to be done in days past.  Never had to kill a chicken to eat chicken.  Kill a cow, pig, sheep and anything, hell they just go to the store and buy one already clean.

  I have shot crows eating and pulling corn out of a farmers fields.  Back when there were lots and lots of crows.  The corn field would be black with them.  They could destroy a field of corn in the matter of minutes.

  But one day a farmer outside of town was paying me and my friends to shoot pigeons out of his barn.  He had a huge flock in it and the were shitting all over his hay he was feed to his milk cows.

  Well, his wife came out and asked what we were doing and she put a stop to it.  She hired some guys to catch them and take them for a ride far away from the barn.  Guess what they were homing pigeons.  They were back the next day and the day after that we took care of the farmers pigeon problem.  No more shitty hay.  These young kids have no idea of what life was like back in the "old" days.  The first house dad and only house he bought.  He improved it every year until he died at 92.  Had a outside john and a pitcher pump on the kitchen sink.  This was in town and the town had no sewers or city water.  How easy life has gotten.

[Sandy Eggo]

I actually agree 100% w/Lester and suddenly you do too? What you were saying in the Random Venting thread is the polar opposite of what Lester just said.

[Palehorse]

http://politicalcorrection.org/?src=mmbx

Martha Dean is running for Attorney General of Connecticut as a Republican. But her view of states' rights suggests she'd be more at home representing the old Confederacy. According to Dean, when states don't like a Supreme Court decision — the final constitutional step in settling legal disputes — they can simply ignore the parts they don't like:

Dean, who is facing off against Democrat George Jepsen in a race to become Connecticut's first new attorney general in 20 years, presented a vigorous defense Wednesday of the doctrine of "nullification," which holds that states can reject federal laws when they believe that Washington has no authority under the U.S. Constitution to enforce them.

"This is a tool that has existed," Dean said in a phone interview. "It is a tool that isn't often used. It isn't often needed."

But in cases in which she believes the federal government has surpassed the limitations imposed by the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution - which reserves powers not granted to the federal government to the individual states themselves - Dean said she supports efforts by Connecticut and other states to nullify federal law.

While Dean said her position is controversial only to "the left," nullification, also referred to as "interposition," is extremely controversial. It has been invoked by defenders of states' rights, for instance, in some of the most intense rebellions against federal authority, most notably during the run-up to the Civil War and the civil rights movement of the 1960s.
That's crazy enough on its own. Dean may not be arguing for an economy based on slave labor, but she is arguing — vigorously — that the legal doctrine used by slave states to defend the practice (thus starting the Civil War) is a valid and useful "tool" in our legal system. As the Constitutional Accountability Center pointed out last week, she's flatly wrong:

Actually, no such "tool" exists.  The Constitution's Supremacy Clause, found in Article VI, makes the Constitution and federal laws enacted pursuant to it the supreme law of the land - laws that all states must therefore obey.   And Article III of the Constitution makes the Supreme Court, not the states or individual state officials, the final arbiter of whether a federal law is or is not unconstitutional.  It is disturbing that Dean, seeking office as a state's chief lawyer, said in the interview that she does not "accept" that the Supreme Court has this authority.  Dean would do well to go back to her law school texts and remind herself of Chief Justice John Marshall's famous declaration, made more than 200 years ago, that "It is emphatically the province and duty of the judicial department to say what the law is." Simply put, Dean's claim that states have the power to nullify federal law conflicts with the text of the Constitution.
Dean took exception to CAC's rebuke, and picked a strange ally to defend her outlandish legal philosophy. In a comment on the CAC post, Dean quoted secessionist writer Tom Woods' response to the CAC analysis. Woods called the post a "fifth-grade research paper" and accused its author of "getting the history exactly backwards!" In closing, Woods made that most insidious of arguments: "Ever read Hitler's views of states' rights? I'll give you a hint: he doesn't side with me." Right! Because anybody who thinks the Constitution lays out a clear system for resolving legal disputes that ultimately holds Supreme Court decisions to be the law of the land is pining for the good ol' days of Nazi Germany.

Woods, for his part, pines merely for the good ol' days of the antebellum American south. According to the conservative Claremont Institute, Woods' book of American history "is just more wheezy propaganda from the old Confederacy," and "Woods is a founding member of the League of the South, which officially declares: 'The people of the South must come to understand that they indeed are a 'nation'' and may resort to secession if their demands are not met."

In another post today, CAC calls attention to another conservative dismissal of Woods' worldview:

Libertarian author Cathy Young also shredded Woods' book in Reason Magazine, saying:

Much of the book's first half is an apologia for the antebellum South and its cause in the War Between the States (Woods' preferred term).

...

If you're wondering whether there's a larger context for Woods' pleading, there is. Born and raised in the North, Woods is a co-founder of the League of the South, a neo-Confederate group, and has written frequently for its magazine The Southern Patriot.

In a 1997 article titled "Christendom's Last Stand," Woods proclaims the Confederacy's defeat "the real watershed from which we can trace many of the destructive trends that continue to ravage our civilization today."
If these are the friends Martha Dean turns to for covering fire in the "battle" over nullification — a battle her side lost two centuries ago — then she's got no business representing the Nutmeg State in a court of law. And if these are the candidates the GOP recruits for New England campaigns, who are the Republican champions in so-called "Real America"?

Jumpin Jehosafat! Is there no low that these people will not stoop to????

[Lester Sasquatch]

I am sure many will be heartbroken to learn that Moe Tucker, drummer for the Velvet Underground, has been outed as a member of the Tea party. Here is the link to her interview where she says some intelligent things.

http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/atoz/2010/10/moe_tucker_interview_2010_politics_tea_party_velvet_underground_video.php

I would post some of her answers to questions in the interview but they are all so well put that I would have to post the entire article. Might as well read it yourselves but here is one quote that hit home with me.

My philosophy was and is all politicians are liars, bums and cheats. I make decisions on an issue by issue basis. I'm far more of an independent than a conservative or liberal. I don't agree with all  of either side, and I think anyone who claims to is either a fool or a damn liar.

[The Troll]

I am sure many will be heartbroken to learn that Moe Tucker, drummer for the Velvet Underground, has been outed as a member of the Tea party. Here is the link to her interview where she says some intelligent things.

http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/atoz/2010/10/moe_tucker_interview_2010_politics_tea_party_velvet_underground_video.php

I would post some of her answers to questions in the interview but they are all so well put that I would have to post the entire article. Might as well read it yourselves but here is one quote that hit home with me.

My philosophy was and is all politicians are liars, bums and cheats. I make decisions on an issue by issue basis. I'm far more of an independent than a conservative or liberal. I don't agree with all  of either side, and I think anyone who claims to is either a fool or a damn liar.

  Well, Lester I am a Yellow Dog Democrat.  I would vote for a old mangy yellow dog than vote for one Republican.  I voted Republican "ONCE"!!!  I pulled one of my biggest dumbass tricks when I vote for Ronald Reagan.  I have never got over that dumbass mistake.

  Oh, I forgot that I voted for a Republican that won a seat on the town board.  He was the only Republican on the board.  He was one of the biggest assholes and trouble maker we ever had.  Putting a Republican into office, any office is like putting a decaying rotten apple in the middle of a barrel of good apples.  It will make the whole barrel rotten, a rotten stinking mess.  Just look at George W. and Prick Cheney.

  We have had our thieves and crooks, but I do honestly  believe the Democrats are more for the middle class than the super rich predatory capitalist loving Republicans.

  That's the way I fell, history tells the story, from Herbert Hoover to George W. Bush.

[Lester Sasquatch]

  Well, Lester I am a Yellow Dog Democrat.  I would vote for a old mangy yellow dog than vote for one Republican.  I voted Republican "ONCE"!!!  I pulled one of my biggest dumbass tricks when I vote for Ronald Reagan.  I have never got over that dumbass mistake.

  Oh, I forgot that I voted for a Republican that won a seat on the town board.  He was the only Republican on the board.  He was one of the biggest assholes and trouble maker we ever had.  Putting a Republican into office, any office is like putting a decaying rotten apple in the middle of a barrel of good apples.  It will make the whole barrel rotten, a rotten stinking mess.  Just look at George W. and Prick Cheney.

  We have had our thieves and crooks, but I do honestly  believe the Democrats are more for the middle class than the super rich predatory capitalist loving Republicans.

  That's the way I fell, history tells the story, from Herbert Hoover to George W. Bush.

Point taken Troll, I certainly can't argue with you about your reasoning. One of the admirable qualities that I see in you Troll, and something I like to think we have in common, is that you stand firm on your convictions. You are like a Pit Bull, once you lock your jaw around something you don't let go for anything come hell or high water. Sometimes I think that many people are too quick to compromise, probably because they are simply too lazy to stand their ground. I am willing to bet that no one has ever accused the Troll of being lazy.

By the way, do you mind that I call you "Troll" or do you prefer "The Troll"?

[The Troll]

Point taken Troll, I certainly can't argue with you about your reasoning. One of the admirable qualities that I see in you Troll, and something I like to think we have in common, is that you stand firm on your convictions. You are like a Pit Bull, once you lock your jaw around something you don't let go for anything come hell or high water. Sometimes I think that many people are too quick to compromise, probably because they are simply too lazy to stand their ground. I am willing to bet that no one has ever accused the Troll of being lazy.

By the way, do you mind that I call you "Troll" or do you prefer "The Troll"?

  Lester after the name I have been called by some of the women of the Zone, You can call me Toll, The Troll or Bob my real name. 

[Palehorse]

 

  Lester after the name I have been called by some of the women of the Zone, You can call me Toll, The Troll or Bob my real name. 

Need a moment? Go get your big boy britches on. . .

[followsthewolf]

Need a moment? Go get your big boy britches on. . .

Not sure he has any.