Should the US Continue Off Shore Drilling Despite The Spill?

[Henry Hawk]

If the beaches all along the Gulf Coast are clean and safe, then what happened to the oil? was it as bad as thought?

[The Troll]

yeah Troll, I'm sure this TOO is Bush's fault.....that seems to be your answer for just about everything...

  No, It's not George W. fault.  It's the damn Republican Party fault.  The greedy bastards who worship the almighty dollar.  Who worship the predatory stealing super rich capitalist.

  Who have stole trillions of dollars in the banks and stock market.   Got us into two, 1 trillion dollar wars and killed thousands of our young people and crippling many more thousands over nothing but lies.

  No it wasn't George W. fault, hell he isn't that smart.  He was a damn poor business man and daddy pulled his ass out of trouble two or three times.  Plus a damn poor governor of Texas.   He was nothing but a hand puppet for the Republican Party.  And "NO" he's not going to get any credit for the surge.  We should not have been there.

 

[The Troll]

If the beaches all along the Gulf Coast are clean and safe, then what happened to the oil? was it as bad as thought?

  Yes Hawk   It is as bad as we thought.  The ocean hide it's dead very well.  But we have you to stand up for the large polluting corporations.  It's to bad you didn't have a shrimp boat down there and had you life tore up.  BP lied to us from the start of that well they dug down there.  All lies.  We need to cut their taxes for being such a good liars.  Lie, cheat, pollute and let's cut their taxes.  Let's do the Hawk way.

[Henry Hawk]

  No, It's not George W. fault.  It's the damn Republican Party fault.  The greedy bastards who worship the almighty dollar.  Who worship the predatory stealing super rich capitalist.

  Who have stole trillions of dollars in the banks and stock market.   Got us into two, 1 trillion dollar wars and killed thousands of our young people and crippling many more thousands over nothing but lies.

  No it wasn't George W. fault, hell he isn't that smart.  He was a damn poor business man and daddy pulled his ass out of trouble two or three times.  Plus a damn poor governor of Texas.   He was nothing but a hand puppet for the Republican Party.  And "NO" he's not going to get any credit for the surge.  We should not have been there.

Troll, this is an old topic, but I would like YOUR take on this.....

Bill Clinton himself believed Iraq WAS a real problem and we needed to take action.....

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear.
We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
Bill Clinton went to the Pentagon on this occasion to be briefed by top military officials about Iraq and weapons of mass destruction.


"Iraq is a long way from USA but, what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998
This is a quote from Albright during an appearance at Ohio State University by Albright, who was Secretary of State for Bill Clinton.

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
This was at the same Ohio State University appearance as Madeline Albright.
 
"We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S.Constitution and Laws, to take necessary actions, (including, if appropriate,
air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction
programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998-Truth!

You see Troll you guys swallowed the kool-ade, and "forgot" about the REAL danger we faced....and Bush had the integrity to take action...
and by the way, that WHOLE war cost less money than Obama's democrats has spent in 18 months..

[Henry Hawk]

  Yes Hawk   It is as bad as we thought.  The ocean hide it's dead very well.  But we have you to stand up for the large polluting corporations.  It's to bad you didn't have a shrimp boat down there and had you life tore up.  BP lied to us from the start of that well they dug down there.  All lies.  We need to cut their taxes for being such a good liars.  Lie, cheat, pollute and let's cut their taxes.  Let's do the Hawk way.

then WHY is Obama telling Americans that the beaches are clean and safe?....what is up? is he lying? or is he in th back pocket of BP?...is it clean or not?

[Palehorse]

Oil slick has been sighted at this latest oil rig explosion!

[Henry Hawk]

Oil slick has been sighted at this latest oil rig explosion!

I gotta agree with Anne here, we went forever without an oil rig explosion, now we have two in less than five months?

something fishy here.....

[Palehorse]

What's fishy is that they do not have control over the whole process and are inept at mitigating the results of their inability. It's either that or they just do not care and are taking shortcuts or deviating from established protocols in pursuit of even greater profit! 

[Henry Hawk]

What's fishy is that they do not have control over the whole process and are inept at mitigating the results of their inability. It's either that or they just do not care and are taking shortcuts or deviating from established protocols in pursuit of even greater profit! 

or someone is "causing" this to happen....to push a political agenda....two times in five months?...what happened to the Oil Moritorium?....I thought they was going to fix everything so this would not happen again......those workers are STILL getting screwed by the moritorium while they are out "fixing" this 

[The Troll]

Troll, this is an old topic, but I would like YOUR take on this.....

Bill Clinton himself believed Iraq WAS a real problem and we needed to take action.....

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear.
We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
Bill Clinton went to the Pentagon on this occasion to be briefed by top military officials about Iraq and weapons of mass destruction.


"Iraq is a long way from USA but, what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998
This is a quote from Albright during an appearance at Ohio State University by Albright, who was Secretary of State for Bill Clinton.

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
This was at the same Ohio State University appearance as Madeline Albright.
 
"We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S.Constitution and Laws, to take necessary actions, (including, if appropriate,
air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction
programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998-Truth!

You see Troll you guys swallowed the kool-ade, and "forgot" about the REAL danger we faced....and Bush had the integrity to take action...
and by the way, that WHOLE war cost less money than Obama's democrats has spent in 18 months..

  Fuck Bill Clinton, he's been out of office 91/2 years.  You assholes stuck us with this these wars and your trying to get off the hook.  No way Hawk   There were no weapons of mass destruction of war and the Republican party knew there were no weapons of mass destruction.    

[me]

  Fuck Bill Clinton, he's been out of office 91/2 years.  You assholes stuck us with this these wars and your trying to get off the hook.  No way Hawk   There were no weapons of mass destruction of war and the Republican party knew there were no weapons of mass destruction.    

Uh, slow down Troll he we using Clinton's information which, as you can see, say's

Bill Clinton himself believed Iraq WAS a real problem and we needed to take action.....

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear.
We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
Bill Clinton went to the Pentagon on this occasion to be briefed by top military officials about Iraq and weapons of mass destruction.

Now come down off that and chill before you have a coronary. 

[Henry Hawk]

  Fuck Bill Clinton, he's been out of office 91/2 years.  You assholes stuck us with this these wars and your trying to get off the hook.  No way Hawk   There were no weapons of mass destruction of war and the Republican party knew there were no weapons of mass destruction.

Troll, if you want I can provide evidence that MOST of the democrats during the end of Clintons administration, was convinced that Iraq HAD WMD's...Bush, had the same intelligence, and after 9/11, he was NOT going to take any chances...and remember CONGRESS voted FOR the war...

I'm not saying that the war was handled properly, but war was decided upon by both parties, just the dems decided to bail out when things got tough and used it against Bush to get back into control...and THAT is a FACT.

[Palehorse]

What's fishy is that they do not have control over the whole process and are inept at mitigating the results of their inability. It's either that or they just do not care and are taking shortcuts or deviating from established protocols in pursuit of even greater profit! 

[Palehorse]

Well, we can all rest easy now. Limpjaws has it all figured out and says to just leave it alone and it will take care of itself!

http://gawker.com/5529289/rush-limbaugh-oil-spill-was-deliberate-act-by-environmentalists

Oh, Rush. While everyone is focused on the environmental and economic impact of the oil rig explosion and subsequent spill, Limbaugh has his own theory: the rig was blown up by "hardcore environmentalist wackos."

President Obama just made some remarks on the topic. He said, according to AFP, that the spill was "a massive and potentially unprecedented environmental disaster," and added that "BP is responsible for this leak. BP will be paying the bill."

But Rush has arrived at a very different culprit. Here, via WWLTV in Louisiana, is the big guy's theory as aired on his Thursday show. We'd advise you put on a tinfoil hat before reading it, just to get into the spirit of things.

I want to get back to the timing of the blowing up, the explosion out there in the Gulf of Mexico of this oil rig. Since they're sending SWAT teams down there now this changes the whole perspective of this. Now, lest we forget, ladies and gentlemen, the carbon tax bill, cap and trade that was scheduled to be announced on Earth Day. I remember that. And then it was postponed for a couple of days later after Earth Day, and then of course immigration has now moved in front of it.
But this bill, the cap-and-trade bill, was strongly criticized by hardcore environmentalist wackos because it supposedly allowed more offshore drilling and nuclear plants, nuclear plant investment. So, since they're sending SWAT teams down there, folks, since they're sending SWAT teams to inspect the other rigs, what better way to head off more oil drilling, nuclear plants, than by blowing up a rig? I'm just noting the timing here.
But handily we can thwart this mysterious cabal of environmentalists by doing... nothing. Because oil is supposed to be in the water:

You do survive these things. I'm not advocating don't care about it hitting the shore or coast and whatever you can do to keep it out of there is fine and dandy, but the ocean will take care of this on its own if it was left alone and was left out there," Limbaugh said. "It's natural. It's as natural as the ocean water is.

[Henry Hawk]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101110/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gulf_oil_spill

White House altered drilling safety report