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Should the US Continue Off Shore Drilling Despite The Spill?

Started by Palehorse, May 04, 2010, 01:38:32 PM

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The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 28, 2010, 01:25:09 PM
Can't really argue with either of those remarks troll,........(this is getting kind of sacry  :spooked: )....but, ONE, has to think that BP, at least in my opinion, can make or break themselves by the way they handle themselves on the clean-up.....I can forgive a tragic mistake, if BP sincerely does what it takes to clean this mess up, BUT, if they do NOT do a FANTASTIC job of clean up, NOR do they make the proper cash settlements to those who are warrented to be compensated, in FULL.....I at that point, NEVER, EVER support BP again.  I say they have MORE at stake at making things right, than they do at not making things right...........but, I'm not sure if they see things this way.

Oh, I could forgive BP if they did what is right.  But I won't forget what they did.  But they will do just the same thing Exxon did in Alaska,  fiddle fuck around, putting off, lying, cheating and dragging things out until the people they destroyed die.  It has been 20 years and things are still fucked up in Alaska and still Exxon is dragging their feet.  I don't trust BP as far as I can throw my gasguzzler V10 truck.

Henry Hawk

After 70 days, Obama accepts International Assistance for the spill...

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The United States is accepting help from 12 countries and international organizations in dealing with the massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.
The State Department said in a statement Tuesday that the U.S. is working out the particulars of the help that's been accepted.
The identities of all 12 countries and international organizations were not immediately announced. One country was cited in the State Department statement -- Japan, which is providing two high-speed skimmers and fire containment boom.
More than 30 countries and international organizations have offered to help with the spill. The State Department hasn't indicated why some offers have been accepted and others have not.







http://finance.yahoo.com/news/US-accepts-international-apf-4104246595.html?x=0&.v=2
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The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 30, 2010, 10:45:37 AMAfter 70 days, Obama accepts International Assistance for the spill... WASHINGTON (AP) -- The United States is accepting help from 12 countries and international organizations in dealing with the massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. The State Department said in a statement Tuesday that the U.S. is working out the particulars of the help that's been accepted. The identities of all 12 countries and international organizations were not immediately announced. One country was cited in the State Department statement -- Japan, which is providing two high-speed skimmers and fire containment boom. More than 30 countries and international organizations have offered to help with the spill. The State Department hasn't indicated why some offers have been accepted and others have not. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/US-accepts-international-apf-4104246595.html?x=0&.v=2


  Why is it Henry, that BP hasn't hired the other 1,600 skimmers that are here in the country.

  Sure got tunnel vision when it come to Obama.  Still not really wanting to blame BP.  Still the same old bull shit, same old bull shit, same old bull shit.  Your just like a stuck record.  :flap:  :flap:  :flap:

Henry Hawk

Quote from: The Troll on June 30, 2010, 01:08:12 PM

  Why is it Henry, that BP hasn't hired the other 1,600 skimmers that are here in the country.

  Sure got tunnel vision when it come to Obama.  Still not really wanting to blame BP.  Still the same old bull shit, same old bull shit, same old bull shit.  Your just like a stuck record.  :flap: :flap: :flap:

we got to QUIT waiting on BP to save us, they are obviously struggling in that department....this is an ENORMOUS, CATASTRAPHIC EVENT That is going on....we need some leadership right now and get this under control.....QUICKLY
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The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 30, 2010, 01:27:42 PMwe got to QUIT waiting on BP to save us, they are obviously struggling in that department....this is an ENORMOUS, CATASTRAPHIC EVENT That is going on....we need some leadership right now and get this under control.....QUICKLY

  Leadership, Leadership, Leadership, Leadership, Leadership.  Obama and everybody in Washington and the United States, in fact the whole world, is working on this.

  But since you never answer any questions, I'll try one more time.  Who will lead and what do we do and not make the damn thing worse.

  Is it Booby Jindal, who has been caught saying, "lead or get out of the way".  Who wants to digs large holes into the wetlands to build a dike and in the process destroy forever what he trying to save.  Braaaaain  Deaaaaaaaaaaad. 

  Well, so much for small government.  Hell, we have a big one and can't solve this problem.

me

Quote from: The Troll on June 30, 2010, 03:43:39 PM
  Leadership, Leadership, Leadership, Leadership, Leadership.  Obama and everybody in Washington and the United States, in fact the whole world, is working on this.

  But since you never answer any questions, I'll try one more time.  Who will lead and what do we do and not make the damn thing worse.

  Is it Booby Jindal, who has been caught saying, "lead or get out of the way".  Who wants to digs large holes into the wetlands to build a dike and in the process destroy forever what he trying to save.  Braaaaain  Deaaaaaaaaaaad. 

  Well, so much for small government.  Hell, we have a big one and can't solve this problem.
If you weigh the harm of one against the harm of the other I'd say the wet lands are gonna lose because the oil is gonna ultimately cause more damage both to the economy and nature.
Trump 2020

The Troll

Quote from: me on June 30, 2010, 06:53:09 PM
If you weigh the harm of one against the harm of the other I'd say the wet lands are gonna lose because the oil is gonna ultimately cause more damage both to the economy and nature.

  You were a kid at one time, probably, did you ever built sand castles  and watch how the tide and the waves destroyed it.  Just a little higher water and a few waves and just a few minutes the beach was back the same.  No sign of your castle.

  Just how long do you think sand dikes will last with a storm, waves and tides.  A fart would last longer in a Indiana wind storm.

The Troll

  Some interesting information of BP"s oil spill.    www.rense.com.

  One professor said the the oil coming out of the pipe that is spilling the oil might be under 70,000 to 100,000 pound per square inch pressure.  Well BP said that they had put on a blow out preventer with a rating of 15,000 pound of pressure. WOW!  A sissy preventer.

  We know, that at a mile depth the water pressure is 12,000 pound per square inch and the well is putting 100,000 barrels per day.  That's a lot of pressure.

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 30, 2010, 01:27:42 PM
we got to QUIT waiting on BP to save us, they are obviously struggling in that department....this is an ENORMOUS, CATASTRAPHIC EVENT That is going on....we need some leadership right now and get this under control.....QUICKLY

Huh. . . when did you abandon the "BP will take care of everything" schooner you've been sailing?
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LOsborne

Quote from: Palehorse on July 01, 2010, 07:02:48 PM
Huh. . . when did you abandon the "BP will take care of everything" schooner you've been sailing?

When the Troll pointed out BP hadn't "hired" the other 1600 available skimmers. Henry wants us to quit picking on BP. He thinks the government should pay for those skimmers. His understanding that "government" means "you and me," when we talk about invoicing, tends to come and go.

The Troll

Quote from: LOsborne on July 01, 2010, 07:13:24 PMWhen the Troll pointed out BP hadn't "hired" the other 1600 available skimmers. Henry wants us to quit picking on BP. He thinks the government should pay for those skimmers. His understanding that "government" means "you and me," when we talk about invoicing, tends to come and go.

  Also Lolly, the world's largest skimmer has just been refitted for the Gulf.  I guess it here waiting for the government, the EPA to check out it's filters and oil removal capabilities.

  The amout of oil this skimmer can remove is beyond belief.  Henry is talking about Obama being slow on getting skimmer out to work.  You don't get the WORLD'S LARGEST OIL SKIMMER, refitter over night.

followsthewolf

BP does NOT have a good track record for taking care of the problems when it sh*ts in its own nest and injures/kills people because of its cheap-ass way of providing for the safety of its workers.

There'd better be a massive, intensive watch to make sure they don't slip away when they try to shed their skins and get out from under their incredible liability for this disaster.

They have tried to do it before.
Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

The Troll

Quote from: followsthewolf on July 01, 2010, 08:32:54 PM
BP does NOT have a good track record for taking care of the problems when it sh*ts in its own nest and injures/kills people because of its cheap-ass way of providing for the safety of its workers.

There'd better be a massive, intensive watch to make sure they don't slip away when they try to shed their skins and get out from under their incredible liability for this disaster.

They have tried to do it before.

  Mr. FTW, what would happen to you, if you pulled a Cluster F**k and killed 17 of your workers.
Nothing has happened to anyone at BP.  They sure know how to cover each other's ass.


Palehorse

Quote from: followsthewolf on July 01, 2010, 08:32:54 PM
BP does NOT have a good track record for taking care of the problems when it sh*ts in its own nest and injures/kills people because of its cheap-ass way of providing for the safety of its workers.

There'd better be a massive, intensive watch to make sure they don't slip away when they try to shed their skins and get out from under their incredible liability for this disaster.

They have tried to do it before.

Been right at the forefront of my radar since the rig exploded, and I will keep it there until every single drop of oil and damage has been remediated. (Which will be long after I myself turn to fertilizer). . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

Quote from: LOsborne on July 01, 2010, 07:13:24 PM
When the Troll pointed out BP hadn't "hired" the other 1600 available skimmers. Henry wants us to quit picking on BP. He thinks the government should pay for those skimmers. His understanding that "government" means "you and me," when we talk about invoicing, tends to come and go.

Whoa!!!..back up the train girl..........WHERE did I ever say that I wanted the government to PAY for the skimmers?.........didn't happen Lolly...............I DID say that our government  needs to do what BP is failing to do...we cannot wait on them to fix this....I say everything we do, we BILL BP....in FULL....that is what I have been saying from the beginning...THIS is a National Emergency.....we got to quit worrying about who is going to pay NOW for it......we need to get the work done NOW.....and collect from the guilty party later.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW